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FAQs About Rubber Eels, Sicilian Worms... Caecilians
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sisilian worm – 03/24/10
Please help me. I've had my worm
<I assume you mean a caecilian, the aquatic species Typhlonectes
natans being the one normally kept in captivity.>
for over 20 years and about @
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days ago she developed little white spots on her skin. I haven't had Ick
in over 12 years and I dont think it affected her last time.
<Don't know if amphibians can suffer from Ick.><<Cannot as far
as I'm aware. RMF>>
Also, she is in a large community tank and all other fish look fine.
<Really, these amphibians shouldn't be kept with fish. Typhlonectes
natans need a variety of things, including subtropical -- not tropical
-- temperatures; a soft, sandy substrate for burrowing; gentle water
current; and lots of floating plants. They're air breathers remember,
and if they have problems getting to the surface they won't do well.
That you've kept your specimen for 20 years suggests you're getting the
basics right, but it's as well I list the key things here so that other
people reading this letter can understand the context. Too many people
keep them in tanks with gravel (into which they can't dig), no floating
plants (making it difficult for them to rest at the top while breeding),
and too warm (shortening their lifespan). As with any carnivore, you
need to be very careful with their
diet so that you can avoid [a] overfeeding and [b] vitamin deficiency. A
good diet would include 3-4 meals per week, consisting of mainly
earthworms as well as smaller amounts of bloodworms, prawns, krill and
tilapia fillet.>
I live in St. Louis mo, and these kids at the pet stores/ fish stores
just want to through chemicals at me even though they have never heard
of this animal.
<Do make sure you're actually using a name that means something to other
people. They're called caecilians (pronounced "Say-see-lee-ans") and the
species you have is likely the so-called Rubber Eel, or Typhlonectes
natans. Remember that they are amphibians, not fish, and you need to
visit a reptile/amphibian specialist pet store to buy medications, not
an aquarium shop. They are basically tough animals, but they are easily
damaged by rough handling and physical abrasion. If their slime coat is
abraded their skin becomes vulnerable to secondary infections, which
could easily be the case here. They must have soft (smooth, silica) sand
to burrow into, and gravel will, eventually, damage their skin.
Similarly, nets can scratch them and potentially bites and scratches
from things like
cichlids and catfish could cause harm too. Damaged skin turns white.
Provided there was no sign of reddening (which tends to imply bacterial
infection) I'd simply ensure optimal environmental conditions and wait
for the skin to heal naturally. Since your caecilian is fairly old now,
it make
be slower to heal, or more quick to become damaged, than otherwise.
Don't confuse normal skin shedding (where the flakes are transparent)
with actual damage (where the skin turns white).>
I just want to give the right meds for the correct problem. Any ideas
what I might be dealing with?? Thanks for the help, Nikk
<Twenty years is actually a pretty good age for this species, so your
specimen may well be showing its age. Cheers, Neale.>
Rubber Eel, killer! – 03/26/08
I have a rubber eel and he kills everything
except the sucker fish, what can I put with him?
<Rubber eels, Typhlonectes natans, are no fish,
but amphibians. They can eat anything small enough to swallow, so peaceful fish
obviously larger than their mouth are generally safe. Don't keep them with
aggressive fish. Additionally, caecilians can be kept in groups and sometimes
give birth live young. Often, small, always active fish are safe, too. However,
only small fish sleeping at the bottom may disappear. If anything else
disappears it’s likely not the fault of the Rubber Eel (they may eat dead fish),
or your eel is something else (I’ve seen them mixed up with other eels and the
clerks without an idea). Ensure your tank is large enough to support the planned
tank mates and have a look at
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/rubbereelfaqs.htm
. Cheers, Marco.>
Rubber Eel Amphibian With Internal Infection 12/24/06
Hi There, I came upon your webpage hoping to find an answer to my
question. I have a Caecilian (rubber eel) in a 10 gallon tank with a small Cory
fish. I've had it for about 4-5 months and it was doing fine. Recently, I've
been observing erratic behavior: it floats motionless on the surface, just
hanging, or it lets itself get sucked onto the filter. Before, it would burrow
or curl around a rock or the one small plant in the tank. Other behavior
includes, what seems like, the amphibian contracting its entire body and gaping
its mouth wide open and sinking to the bottom of the tank. It then frantically
gulps and repeats to contract and tighten its entire body and gape its mouth. It
also has been gulping for a lot of air at the surface and has stopped eating
(I've been feeding it live bloodworms). I don't have a heater for the tank, and
I know they should be kept at 74-78 F. It was fine during the summer, but now
it is considerably colder. I hope you can help me with this, since information
on these creatures is scarce. Thanks,
Lidia
< Tropical amphibians need adequate heat to properly digest their food. The food
is rotting in his gut and the bacteria are causing this gas/bloat problem.
Heating up the tank to 82 F should get the digestive juices going and start to
retard the bacteria in the stomach. In the future if you are going to keep him
cool the stop feeding him when the weather starts to cool.-Chuck>
A Caecilian by any other name
Salutations Dr. Fenner!
<Just Bob please>
After visiting your website, I have found it to be extremely helpful and
concluded that you're probably the only one that can help me! I stumbled upon it
during my futile search for information on an unusual species (eel? snake?
worm???) I bought on Saturday. I keep it together with a 12cm fire eel and 27
neon tetras. I bought it from a fish farm in Singapore and it was in a huge tank
together with many ghost fishes and some fire eels.
Let me describe it in detail:
It looks like a worm/snake and is almost 30cm with a girth roughly the size of a
man's middle finger.
The body is like an earthworm's in that it is VERY smooth. Its skin creases when
it moves (it moves like a snake!) a and actually forms folds. It reminds me of
the kind of skin a newborn hamster or rat has. It is a dark grayish blue and has
stripes on the lower half of its body (which is of a lighter color) when viewed
from the side. The morning after I bought it, I noticed that it had shed a layer
of its skin. The skin was snagged onto the wood in my tank and was billowing in
the current caused by my filter pump.
Then 2 days later it shed another layer but this time I did not remove the dead
skin from the tank. When I looked closely at its body, I did not observe any
breaks in its skin. It looked perfectly normal. It does not have any fins at
all.
Another feature of this funny creature is that its head and tail look very
similar! When it is not moving, I get confused sometimes trying to differentiate
where its head is! I assume that this is supposed to confuse predators?
It looks as though it likes to burrow but my gravel is not fine enough and too
heavy for it to hide under. It constantly tries to stick its nose into the
gravel but is never successful. In relation to its body, its head seems pretty
small and I doubt if a medium sized tetra would fit. I am mentioning this
'because I thought of feeding it small fish initially but that didn't work out.
Its head is exactly like a snake's in respect to how the eyes and nose are
placed. But the placement of the mouth is slightly different. Its mouth is below
the head and looks pretty much like when you put your hand into a sock and
pretend to make it 'talk' (I hope you understand my description).
It also does not like the light at all. When I turned on the tank light
initially it immediately reacted by trying to find a place to hide. But 2 days
later it seemed more tolerant. It gets on fine with my fire eel and is totally
oblivious to the tetras. It looks as though it has VERY poor eyesight
(practically blind) and I can't say much for its sense of smell either! This is
based on my experience trying to feed it some live blood worms yesterday. When I
dropped the worms into one corner of the tank, it initially did not seem to be
aware of them at all. Then it suddenly got pretty excited (this was the first
time I fed it. 2 days after purchase) and soon it gobbled one worm up pretty
violently. It also hustled my fire eel for the same worm. The thing I noticed is
this. It did not seem as though it located the worms by sight or smell at all
but rather by ...... chance!
Its obvious that the fire eel and the tetras locate the worms by sight first
before moving in for the kill. But it looks as though this creature is blind
even though it has eyes. Firstly, the worms had to be on the gravel bed before
it could eat them. After chomping on his very first worm, even though the worms
were RIGHT in front of him, he still didn't seem to see them! And even if the
worms touched his mouth or wriggled just beside his face, he was still excitedly
pushing at the gravel with his nose looking as if he wanted to burrow???
<Likely so>
Then its as if he suddenly realized (or maybe randomly) there was a worm nearby
and he suddenly opened his mouth and violently chomped on it. Its quite comical
actually! It also looks like it would rather eat worms that are partially rooted
in the gravel (it'll rip the worms out VERY violently) compared to those that
are wriggling freely. He also seems to have a slightly more successful chance on
grabbing a worm when the lights are dimmed (could be my imagination though).
I have thought of buying it some very fine sand but then some people have
advised me not to. Someone said that since my fire eel is a freshwater species
the introduction of sand would alter the PH of my water drastically. I am not
sure if there exists fine marine sand or fine freshwater sand.
Someone else also said that the fire eel's skin would be scratched or irritated
if it burrowed into the fine sand. I really don't know who to believe. Any
comments on whether I should get fine sand?
<Mmm, I would do so... and probably move this animal (an amphibian) to a
separate system>
But I am quite sure that this snakelike creature I bought would be most happy if
it could burrow and hide in fine sand. Something like desert snakes that burrow
underneath sand and lie in wait of insects and such? The documentary I saw about
this particular desert snake mentioned that its skin was very sensitive to
vibrations and detected insects crawling on the surface
in such a manner while it lay in wait underneath the sand. Could this creature
be like that?
<Yes>
I am just speculating based on its physical appearance 'because I am really
curious! But I can guarantee that it not a common loach, ropefish or Bichir.
I submit my humble observations to you Dr Fenner and look forward to your
favourable reply.
Yours Faithfully,
Leonard Emmanuel Tan
<What you describe so well, behaviorally and structurally is almost w/o doubt a
Caecilian (http://www.caecilian.org/) in the trade in the West most often called
a "Rubber Eel". Please take a look through the Net re this group, its practical
husbandry. Thank you for writing. Bob Fenner>
Rubber eel community tank 7/23/05
Hello. I am soon to inherit a 55-gal freshwater live-plant tank that has been
*very* well maintained. The owner doesn't have time to maintain it and is
giving it to me - replete with all the
accoutrements. I plan to keep the tank a live-plant tank, but I also wanted to
have fish and form a community tank with the main participant being rubber eels.
<Mmm, this amphibian is not that easy to keep...>
Because rubber eels are bottom-dwellers, I wanted another semi-active fish for
the midsection
of the tank, as well as a couple of good algae eaters (Siamese algae eaters?).
<Mmm, no... too "mean"... would look elsewhere>
Are rubber eels capable of living in a community environment?
<Most folks keep them by themselves, but they can be kept with very docile
fishes>
If so, what sorts of fish would make a complimentary community?
<Please read through the freshwater subweb on WWM re>
If not, what advice can you provide regarding the support of rubber eels?
<Mmm, try putting the terms: The Rubber Eel, Typhlonectes natans in your search
tools. Bob Fenner>
Any help/input you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Elisa "George" Berg
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