Young blue 3 spot Gourami 7/30/18
hello I own a 55 gallon tank with 3 zebra Danios 1 goldfish comet and
one gold male Gourami adult and one blue female Gourami adult and had
recently bought 3 young gouramis female about 2.5 inches big. no
problems in the water ph 7.1 no ammonia problems etc. two filters one
sponge and one regular. water stays around 78 degrees.
<All sounds fine.>
I added my 3 new gouramis in slowly the way your supposed to and I've
had them 2 weeks and one of the baby blues started swimming funny like
backing up every few seconds while it's standing still if you get what I
<Do you mean he is swimming normally, but uses his fins to swim
That's normal. If you mean he's staying on one place, but rocking side
to side, sometimes with his pectoral fins clamped closely onto his
sides, then that isn't normal. It's sometimes called "shimmying" or "the
shimmies" and is a strong sign a fish is stressed.>
and then over the next few days a bulge appeared on its right side she
didn't eat for a 2 days then started eating again only a little but I'm
assuming because very hungry and today the bulge popped and poop was
coming out brown from the bulge on her side
<You mean the 'poop' is something coming out of a wound on the side of
the fish? This is extremely serious, and honestly, the fish is unlikely
to recover. If the 'poop' is simply faeces coming out of the vent,
that's normal, and fish do get constipated at times.>
and I quickly QTed her I can't find the condition online I've been
searching for a remedy hoping maybe I can save her or if there might be
a problem now for my other fish. help. please.
<If we're dealing with constipation here, then read here:
If the burst wound was in the muscle on the side of the fish, then I'm
less optimistic. Quarantining certainly; excellent water quality; and
above all effective antibiotics will be needed to have any chance of a
wound this deep recovering. I have seen fish recover from muscle
injuries like this, but it takes a lot of careful looking after.>
<Good luck, Neale.>
Re: young blue 3 spot Gourami 7/30/18
thank you for the quick reply.
and as for the swimming it's weird she stays in one spot but slightly
backing up not going anywhere her fins are no clamped on the sides or
pectoral strings ate not clamped but her dorsal stays down but yes the
bulge is on the side in between the fin and tail area
and it burst and the stuff coming out looks exactly like the color of
food they eat
<This is very bad.>
a tanish red color it actually looks just like a long feces string but
your right it's coming out of the muscle
<If you're lucky, it's just a pus or bacterial discharge of some sort.
As/when the wound heals, this should stop. But if the digestive tract
has been punctured, and there's a steady flow of partially digested food
out of the wound, this fish isn't going to heal. Not without help from a
vet, anyway. If that's the case, I would honestly perform euthanasia
here. Let me have you do some reading, here:
The clove oil method is cheap, effective, and much more humane than
other methods used by aquarists.>
I assume on her side and she's is only swollen on the one side the bulge
actually went down some but occasionally stuff still is coming out of
the hole but not as much as yesterday. she is trying too eat but only
getting a small flake or 2 down and spits the rest out and today is
sitting at the bottom of the qt tank but not gasping for air.
<Do not overfeed. Indeed, it might be worth not feeding for a few days
to see if that stops "stuff" coming out of the wound. If it is food
coming out of the wound, as I say, euthanasia is the best choice.>
I had read online something that this might be that could be dangerous
for humans if infected and contagious for my other fish
<Unlikely to infect you. This sort of wound honestly sounds
In other words, it was caused by either the environment or physical
damage, and as such, isn't contagious. But if conditions in the tank are
harmful somehow, other fish could indeed get sick.>
so I did a water change last night for my main tank and added marine
salt hoping to kill any bacteria if that's the case.
<Salt will not kill bacteria.>
thanks so much for you insight I ha e been collecting Gourami s and
other small tropical fish for 2 years now so I'm still quite new at the
illnesses with different fish
<Glad you're enjoying the hobby. Fish diseases are usually caused by
some problem with the tank, so it's always a good idea to review the
aquarium in terms of size, filtration, tankmates, diet, etc. Bad luck
sometimes comes into play, but a wise fishkeeper looks at their tank
critically. Good luck!
Jumpy Gourami 7/24/17
I'm back with another question. Thanks for continuing to help all of us
with our aquatic challenges! I have a 3-year established, 15-gal
column tank with an AquaClear 20 sponge/carbon/bio, housing one
3-spot Gourami, five cherry barbs, and one panda Cory with 3 bandit
corys in a QT almost ready to be added. My ammonia and nitrites are
zero. I feed flakes and float pellets most nights, a shrimp pellet at
lights out every few days, and swap flakes/pellets with freeze dried
bloodworm once a week.
<Ahh; do make sure sufficient high protein food is getting to your new
and old Corydoras cats on the bottom>
I change the water and swap out one of the media components regularly.
For the past few weeks, my 3-spot has become very jumpy.
This is new behavior since I have had her for three years. Whenever I
approach the tank, she cowers in the corner and/or darts to a corner.
She swims freely and openly at all strata otherwise and looks perfectly
healthy. Last night, she literally jumped out of the water in a frenzy
when I walked over. I do shower.
Since the behavior has sustained for a few weeks, I suspect something is
up. Any ideas on how I can help her? Thanks in advance! -- Matt
<Perhaps adding another Trichogaster trichopterus... there are quite a
few "sports" of the 3-spot, blue, gold/en... can be the same sex...
Please read here re:
Re: Jumpy Gourami 7/24/17
My apologies, I did not include a salutation in my last email. How rude!
Re: Jumpy Gourami 7/25/17
Thanks for the fast response. (1) When you mention high protein for the
corys, is the sinking shrimp pellet sufficient?
<Is a good start. I would offer other foods as well weekly>
I may increase to two once I add the others but I don't want to
(2) I'm leery of adding another 3-spot... I've done combos in the past
and one always takes over... I've had this one (female) drive two other
females into the ground and then I added a larger male pearl Gourami
which tried to mate with this one and then bullied her until he
sustained a physical injury chasing her, and died.
<Mmm; well; how about some ditherfish then? Perhaps a small school, five
individuals... of peaceful barbs (golds, checkers...), Danios or
I attributed the cause of this behavior to the limited horizontal space
at the top of this vertical tank. What do you think?
<Of a certainty, you are correct here>
Re: Jumpy Gourami 7/25/17
Thanks Bob. I already have five cherry barbs in there and actually now
that I think about it, two of the males (there are 3 and two females)
have mysteriously "developed" nipped dorsal fins.
<Ahh; maybe from each other; perhaps the Gourami>
I would see one occasionally but never two. Wonder if this is part of
the equation? Also, what kind of protein do you recommend?
<Hikari and Spectrum sinking pellets of small size are faves. B>
Re: Jumpy Gourami 7/25/17
Thanks Bob. I'll give them a shot and let you know if things progress. I
very much appreciate your ideas and responses!
<Cheers Matt. B>