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Breeding emperor tetras  2/17/14
Hello:
I have five emperor tetras in a 75 gallon at the moment. The are in there with Congo tetras and two angelfish. The really slow moving angelfish ignore them.  We have hard water. There is no water softener in the house so the gH is high, I tested the kH and it is fine for swords and guppies, but not for Emperor tetra breeding. They are speedy little things. Anyway someone at the LFS said that I could put them in the 10 gallon with half distilled water and half tap, filled only to the five gallon level, at about 78 degrees and let them go at it and if they breed the usual tiny live foods. I wonder if this is possible? Some of the stores here would love to get emperors as they are hard to obtain. Is distilled water mixed with tap as good as R/O Thank you
<Distilled water and RO water are interchangeable for aquaristic purposes; indeed, rainwater has historically been used as a substitute for both, though there are attendant risks to using rainwater to do with ambient air pollution and the cleanliness (or otherwise!) of roofs, gutters and rainwater storage butts. And yes, it's absolutely standard practise to mix tap water with de-mineralised water to make up what you want; for example, I routinely use a 50/50 mix of rainwater and tap water for my water changes, but the exact proportion will depend upon the desired hardness (pH is somewhat less of an issue provided its stable, as it seems to be calcium ions in particular that affects the viability of fish eggs). So if you have 20 degree dH hardness water and want water of 5 degrees dH, then you'd use 25% tap water and 75% de-mineralised water of some sort. Assuming you don't have clean rainwater, then the easiest way to get (relatively) inexpensive de-mineralised water is from your local aquarium shop, where it'll be sold by the gallon for use in marine aquaria. Do bear in mind you'll need to scale your demands for such water with regard to both the aquarium size and the frequency of water changes, so budget accordingly. In any case, I've not bred Emperor Tetras so can't comment in detail, but it is generally regarded as one of the easier tetras to breed, so definitely worth a shot.
Instead of me rewriting someone else's notes, have a look at what Gary Lange has to say over at FishChannel:
http://www.fishchannel.com/freshwater-aquariums/species-info/tetra/breeding-emperor-tetras.aspx
The SeriouslyFish page is pretty good too, with some specific water chemistry values to aim for:
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/nematobrycon-palmeri/
Hope this helps, Neale.>
Breeding emperor tetras    2/23/14

Hello:
I am acclimatizing three emperor tetras to the 10 gallon. A mixture of 75% distilled water and then rest from the 75 gallon. I am putting three in now. One aggressive male and two females. There are two males left in the 75 gallon. What is the best ratio of males to females in a ten gallon. I am thinking of getting another male tomorrow, but maybe it is ok the way it is. Thank you
<No personal experience of this species but Baensch suggests using pairs.
Do condition them properly beforehand though (live or frozen food likely essential) and make sure the breeding tank is somewhere dark. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Breeding emperor tetras     2/24/14

Hello:
The breeding tank is dark 75 F and I may get a male emperor tomorrow to even it out. These tetras can be $7 each unlike the $1 sales on neons. It's strange they are so pricy here.
<Not really. That's a $1 charge for Neons that are crummy fish thanks to years of poor breeding, pretty much guaranteed to come down with Neon Tetra Disease within a few months (if not weeks) of purchase. Neons furthermore need soft, acidic water to thrive (their lifespan in hard water is limited, at best) and should also be kept relatively cool, around 22 C/72 F, which hardly anyone bothers with, least of all the retailers, hence them being half-stressed when purchased anyway, let alone any predispositions they have to disease. Compare that to a $7 charge for Emperor Tetras: a bigger, more interesting fish that has an excellent track record in terms of hardiness and adaptability to hard, alkaline water conditions and does well at normal tropical temperatures. Realistically can expect these fish to live 3-5 years if properly kept for, possibly longer. Hmm... Emperor tetras starting to sound like a bargain, perhaps! The question isn't really why Emperors are expensive (they're really not, big scheme of things) but how Neons are kept so low, and like suspiciously cheap food, there's a reason for their low cost. Mass production, ubiquitous use of antibiotics, no attempt made to separate healthy specimens from sickly ones anywhere along the distribution chain. Interesting fact: the first Neons brought to Europe flew across the Atlantic on the old German airships of the 20s and 30s, and they were priced accordingly.>
Anyway my spouse my spouse and I took a hike in a preserve today and I got a couple of jugs of water in the stream that I will not be using. It warmed up in upstate ny for the past couple of days and the streams are running with snow melt. The water is a tannin brown color everywhere. I even put a gallon glass jar on the deck and caught snow melt from the laminate roof, same color as the stream. I did not use any of this water in the tank because free low KH water is too good to be true around here. I boiled a gallon, and it is still brown tinted. The boiling probably got rid of any pathogens, but contaminants are an issue, maybe pesticides from farm water run off. I wish there were a way to truly test water as in test for everything imaginable, but the tap water testers omit the important stuff for aquariums. It would be nice if US houses had slate roofs like they do in England
<Indeed. Well, good luck with what you're doing. Snowmelt from a national park or similar should be fine, even if a little "brown". Cheers, Neale.>

Temperature fluctuations in tank and Nematobrycon palmeri, Neale    1/31/12
Hi crew,
<Duncan>
Hope you're all well and thanks again for an awesome website.
<Thanks and you're welcome>
Two inter-related issues that I've got if that's O.K. - I haven't found exact answers after extensive searching on WWM and other web sources.
1) I've just set-up a new tank that is currently fishlessly cycling. I
don't heat it as I already have one here in my Singapore unit (2ft, 15G) whose water sits between 27-28 deg C (room temp), and currently houses 12x cardinal tetras and 1x banded gourami juvenile. The catch is the new tank is in a child's bedroom which is cooled at night so he can sleep properly.
In 24 hours, I've seen min-max temps of 24-27 deg C. Is this too much variation and therefore should I put in a heater to bring the minimum temperature up?
<It is likely too much variation. I would employ a thermostatic heater. Keep near 27 C.>
2) Nematobrycon palmeri. Having researched them on WWM and elsewhere, I'd love some for this new tank (darkish substrate, well-planted,  tap water KH = 3 and pH = 7.2). It's a bit of a weird one - dimensions are 50.5cm X 45.5cm X 30cm (approx 68L / 18G) - a relatively shallow almost-square. Is the tank too small for a small group (say 3-4 males and 5-6 females), especially given the longest dimension is only 50cm?
<I'd limit this volume to just two males, four or five females>
Thanks crew, you're the best.
Duncan.
P.S. A while back (say, August-September last year), Neale helped inform my idea of a 4ft planted tank with no lighting fixtures. I promised an update - I've taken some progress photos and will include them with a semi-detailed account of the relative success I've observed in the near future!
<I will place this note in Neale's in-box here. Cheers, Bob Fenner>

Erratic behaviour in male Emperor Tetra   12/8/11
Hey,
I have recently set up my first ever tropical fish tank and after a long
period of patient preparation and water testing I have bought myself 3 (Two female one male) Emperor Tetra and 3 Boesemanni rainbows
<Mmm, not a great mix of species... "Like" different water qualities (See WWM re or elsewhere), and the Rainbows are really too active/rambunctious for the Emperors>
All seems to be going fine and none of the fish seem to have any problems as individuals, but I have noticed that the male Tetra tends to swim rather erratically and seems slightly aggressive to the two females, I have tested the water for nitrate and ammonia and they are both at zero.
<Good>
The PH is at 7 and temperature is kept between 23 and 24. I am feeding them a small amount only once a day as they are the first fish in the tank. Is this behaviour normal and if not how can I help the situation?
<More "cover" (plants and decor) will definitely help... as will time going by... and large-enough quarters... you don't mention the size of this system... I do hope it's at least twenty gallons, two foot long...>
Thanks for your time and expertise.
James
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

ID help please-- 02/28/09 Hello WWM Crew, The other day, I found these "Emperor Tetras" at a LFS. I have found only two pictures of them online, under the name Black Emperor Tetra. Can you tell me anything about these guys? I suspect they are Nematobrycon amphiloxus, but I cannot find definitive info about this. Can you confirm this? Do these guys get large like the typical emperors or stay small like kerris? Are these rare or new in the hobby? Any help appreciated, I have five in a planted tank and have attached pictures (sorry, kinda blurry). Thanks, J.P. <Greetings. Your fish is indeed the species traded as Nematobrycon amphiloxus, or the Black Emperor Tetra. However, Nematobrycon amphiloxus is considered to be a junior synonym of Nematobrycon palmeri by ichthyologists, meaning the two fish are one and the same thing. So any information that applies to the one applies to the other. At best, Nematobrycon amphiloxus is a colour morph of Nematobrycon palmeri. In any case, Emperor Tetras are fairly easy fish to maintain. They aren't that fussy about water chemistry, though very hard, very basic water should be avoided. Anything around pH 6-7.5, 5-20 degrees dH suits them well. They do need soft, acidic water for breeding though. Emperor Tetras are odd beasts in that they don't really form schools though they should be kept in groups. Males hold short-term territories around plants and shoo off other males. Females are gregarious. I always think they're a bit like teenagers at a disco, with the girls in a group, and the males each trying to attract one of to his corner of the room! Do try and keep more females than males so you can observe their behaviour whilst avoiding bullying. Anyway, they're good fish for planted communities, but because they're quite large (up to 6 cm) and infamously greedy fish, you do need to watch water quality. They're omnivores and appreciate some green foods (e.g., cooked spinach and squished tinned peas) in their diet. Generally nice fish; enjoy! Neale.>

Re: ID help please  3/1/09  Neale, Well I have 2 females and 3 males. I initially bought three and went back for the whole school, but only two remained. Mine seem to school at times, which is odd because I have kept Emperors for years and they never acted in that manner. They are really nice looking little fish. Thanks for the info! -Jayson <Likely schooling at the moment because they're juveniles or outside of the breeding season. Once settled and grown up, the males will become more territorial, so watch for any signs of nippiness between them. Great fish, and I'm sure you'll enjoy them. Be sure and feed a mixed diet for optimum colouration! Not just flake! Cheers, Neale.>

Can you identify this for me 10/14/07 I am curious to know what kind of fish this is. I found it on the web, but so far haven't found out what it is... Thanks so much! Tamara <Tamara, would be happy too... but you sent no photo or link to photo on the web. Try again, and we'll give it the old college try! Cheers, Neale.> Re: can you identify this for me my apologies, I guess I didn't click the attach button...here it is again. Thanks!! Tamara <Greetings. That's an Emperor Tetra, Nematobrycon palmeri. And yes, they do look like that... but only when mature, and only in well-maintained tanks with a dark substrate and lots of plants. Ideally, with blackwater extract added or peat granulate in the filter. Too often they are kept in generic aquaria with plain gravel and not enough plants, and in response their colours become much more subdued (this is actually very, very common with freshwater fish, and one reason people *think* freshwater fish are less colourful than marines). So, you need a tank with lots of plants to produce shade, black sand (non-calcareous of course), good water quality, and water chemistry around 6.0-7.5, low to moderate hardness. As with any other fish, they get the best colours when well cared for, and that includes a nice varied diet including both meaty (bloodworms, daphnia, etc.) and green (algae-based flake) foods. The males are quite feisty, so keep a good size group with more females than males if you can. Six would be a good start, but ten would be better. (People often just buy males of these and other fish, but paradoxically this does nothing to enhance the look of the tank: You need enough males that they all "colour up" while displaying to one another, but also enough females that the males get "in the mood" in the first place, and also enough females that aggression between males is diluted throughout the school.) Colour also depends on what lighting you use: blue lights (like Tritons) will accentuate the blue colours on the fish, while purple lights (like Gro Lux) bring out the red/purple shades. So a mix of lamps in the hood would be ideal. Lovely, lovely fish, though often underrated when seen in bare, brightly-lit tanks at the shops. There's a look-alike species called Inpaichthys kerri, sometimes sold as the Emperor, but among aquarists better known as the Blue Tetra. As its name suggests, it is more blue than purple, but otherwise the two species are very much alike in requirements and habits. Both are excellent community fish. Cheers, Neale>

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