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serious problem. Acanthastrea hlth., diag.       5/7/16
Dear WetWeb media,
As a long marine aquarist and hobbyist I would like to ask you for some help regarding specific issue.
<Ok Srdačan>
It is related to acanastrea lords corals. In my aquariums they are fine, but in user aquariums all of them starts to retract and getting sucked in. They don't look happy and after a few months they starts to show structure under tissue. May people stops to keep them because of that issue. I don't know how to solve it. All other corals are perfect like Acroporas, Euphyllias, etc.. Any idea?
<Mmm; something about the Acanthastrea.... that doesn't mal-affect these other stony coral genera? My first guess is that the Euphyllias are mal-affecting the Mussids... Please read here re:
and here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/CorlCompArt.htm>
Thank you !
Best regards,
Srdačan pozdrav,
<As far as I'm aware, there are no separate/distinctive pathogen that would attack the one genus and not the others... I would do what you encounter in your reading. Treat w/ iodide-ate, make space twixt colonies, utilize purposeful chemical filtrants, increase ORP.... Bob Fenner>

Brown discoloration on brain coral        12/21/15
<Why send four megs of uncropped pix? What are our requested limits?>
Hi Again! Looks like I need your thoughts here. I have had this red brain coral for about a year and he has been thriving. Recently I have noticed some brown discoloration. He still expands fully. Is this the start of brown jelly disease?
The yellow leather above has been getting huge and is now partially shading him a bit.
<Ahh! Much more likely an allelopathogenic effect from the Alcyoniid then.... see WWM Re; separate the two more, use chem. filtrants, improve ORP/RedOx....>
Or are my halides too intense for him?
Thanks for any input. My water parameters are excellent. I am pretty obsessive with maintenance and testing. I would be shocked if it were a water quality issue.
<Not likely>
<Bob Fenner>

Re: Brown discoloration on brain coral       12/21/15
Thank you! I'm relieved. Sorry about the pic size.
<Ahh! This requirement, request is posted on where folks find to write us>
It was not my intent to overload. I'll figure that out for next time! Not tech savvy :-(
<Appreciate your self-effacement. Cheers, BobF>

Re: Carpet Anemone, now Meat Coral; Acanthophyllia, nee Scolymia     11/12/15
<Juri! Sixteen megs of pix? Yahhh!>
Hi Bob, Thanks to your advice. You guys are the best! My carpet is thriving in my tank. He steals the show for sure. Only one flame angel consumed but that is to be expected! I don't think I'll ever spend over 50 bucks for a fish! In my photo he looks small. He is definitely 12 inches across though (pic attached).
<Ah good>
Now for my next dilemma. I have a meat coral who was thriving in my tank for the first 2 months. He was fully expanded and had an amazing feeding response. Recently he has begun to recess. Some skeleton was poking complete through the tissue even. One day after feeding the coral a small piece of fresh scallop, I walked away and returned to find the bully of the tank (my first and favorite fish, an ocellaris) aggressively ripping the food out of his mouth even after it was mostly consumed. After seeing this happen multiple times, I came to the conclusion that my meat coral had probably not eaten in months and is starving. He is still eating but very slowly and with a plastic cage over him to protect him from the bully.
<Good; and smaller chopped sprays of meaty foods>
I did some research and with somewhat of a hasty reaction, I moved him to a shaded low flow area and superglued his damaged tissue where the skeleton was poking through.

Now I wonder if I have caused more damage than good and if I have compromised his healthy tissue. Ugh, why did I not write you before playing surgeon!? The meat coral picture is the last one attached. Help me please :-)
Tank size is 220 gal
Parameters are ammonia 0, phosphates 0, nitrite 0, nitrates 3 ppm, calcium 410, ph 8.2.
2 250metal halides
8 t5 actinic bulbs
Everything thriving and tank pics included.
<Nothing to add that isn't archived on WWM. Bob Fenner>

Re: Carpet Anemone          11/12/15
Ok. I'll look again for answers. Thanks
<Ah good. B>
Re: Carpet Anemone          11/12/15

Ok. I'm kind of embarrassed. I did not understand that you are Robert Fenner,
<Heeee! How do you think I feel at times!?>
the author of my favorite book The Conscientious Aquarist! I have literally learned everything from your book and have fallen in love with this hobby because I had the knowledge to succeed thanks to you. I have just discovered this due to further research about your thoughts on super glue on WWM. I also discovered that I screwed up with my meat coral.
Thanks again and I am pleasantly surprised that you are emailing back people like me with all of our foolish questions! Dedication.
<Thank you for your kind, encouraging words Kinley. BobF>

Lobophelia problem... reading    7/9/14
Hi Crew, I have had this Lobo about 2 years. It used to cover the whole top.
But it never grew any bigger. I fed it once a week.
<... Lobophyllia... Mussids; I'd feed more often, unless... there was a good deal of food being produced endogenously.>

The picture is with lights off and you can see the tentacles around the mouths. It has been shrinking and now the two small round pieces peeled off and are on the bottom of the tank but seem to be alive. They still open at night. One fell an a Blastomussa frag and burned it pretty good. Any chance they will grow or should I just get rid of them. The fact that it did not thrive may indicate that my environment is just not what they need. They are very buoyant and hard to keep in place and I am afraid they will continue to damage other pieces. Thanks, Sam
<Uhh; where's the info. re the system, water quality, other livestock... do you supplement iodide-ate?
Let's have you read:
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Tissue injury in lobed brain coral      1/5/14
Dear experts, before I start let me wish you a glorious new year from Denmark !
<Ah, thank you>
I try to follow your forum closely and learning everyday. I need your expert opinion on an absolute stupid mistake I made. I have a open lobed brain coral as shown in the 2 attached picture. During my attempt to remove an Aiptasia I probably bumped one of the heads (upper right hand corner in both pics) and it seems that there is 1 cm tissue damage causing skeletal exposure.
<I see this in your excellent pix>
I noticed it right after I put it back. This coral is 2 days old in my tank. I feed my LPS corals with Fauna Marine LPS pellets and brine shrimp 3-4 times a week and also add Red Sea Coral Colors A, B, C, D and Reed Foundation weekly. For lighting I use 2 x Juwel T5 Coral and Actinic Blue  Do you think this spells doom for the coral ?
<No; I think this colony will recover just fine. All will be well>
 I would remain very grateful if you could give me some words of comfort and if I can do anything to speed up tissue recovery. Best regards, Kaustuv
<I'd increase your regular/maintenance dosage of iodide-ate (by double) and not worry. Bob Fenner>

Re: Tissue injury in lobed brain coral   1/22/14
Hi Bob ! good evening...just as you said the injured lobo head seems to recover. However I have another qs for your kind reply...If you kindly look at the attached pic you will see that one head (actually the one that got damaged) is much puffier than the other since a couple of days. The big one gives an impression that it might split ! My qs is, in a cluster like this, can one head overpower/drain more nutrition than other heads and become bigger at the expense of smaller ones?
<Mmm, no; I don't believe so; they're independent; don't share tissue...
Nor fight as they're genetically (almost) identical>
Another piece of info...there is a glass anemone on the skeleton of the front lobe which can in fact touch both the small ones. Could that be responsible for their shrinkage ?
<Yes it could>
 Both seems to eat the Ultra Marine LPS pallets...
Sincerely appreciate your view on this. Always thankful for your time and knowledge...br Kaustuv
<Glad to share, aid your efforts. Bob Fenner>

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