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Queen Angel bullying, TWA period     11/5/18
Good morning Bob (and team),
Yesterday I brought a 3 inch French Angel out of quarantine, where it had been for 3 weeks, and put it in my main display (200 gallon FOWLR).
Immediately my 5 inch Queen Angel began bullying it, and the French has a decent amount of fin damage this morning as a result.
<To be expected, anticipated. The size difference, size (small for the wild)... better to have had either the species or size reversed in order of introduction>
I knew I had to put a stop to it immediately, so I removed the Queen Angel (boy was that fun to take out most of the rock in a 200 gallon aquarium)
<I'll bet! Hopefully two nets, make that four, with another/friend to help>
and drip acclimated it back to my 29 gallon QT system. Both the Queen and the French seem to be doing OK at this point.
My question is, how long do you think I should keep the Queen Angel in QT?
I want the French to recover from its injuries, eat well, and establish some territory in the new tank before putting the Queen back in. I'm just not sure how long that typically takes. 3-4 weeks perhaps?
<Yes to about this time frame>
Given the size constraints I know the Queen can't stay in my QT tank for a long time.
<Do weekly or more often water changes, additions in the 29 w/ water from the 200... this will help introduce (chemically) the two Angels. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Re: Queen Angel bullying     11/6/18

Thanks Bob. Will do as you suggest.
The French is swimming much more freely and ate well this morning, now that its tormentor is in a different system. But he definitely got beaten up during the 16 hours they were both in the same aquarium. Hopefully no secondary infections, etc as a result.
Ideally both angels will get along well upon reintroduction. In the meantime, I'll use water from the main display to do the weekly QT water changes, as you recommended.
Appreciate your help.
<Glad to help. DO float the Queen... in a very large plastic colander in the 200 for a few hours ahead of release. BobF>

Re: Queen Angel bullying    11/28/18
Hi Bob,
<Hey Danny>
I have an update and an additional question.
I re-introduced the 5 inch Queen Angel into my tank today, having drip acclimated it for an hour and floated it in a plastic colander for 3 hours.
I notice that its mouth is red (see attached pics)
<I see this>
and that it's been breathing hard for the last few days (I'm sure it's stressed out by the move, but it was breathing hard a few days ago in QT as well).
Any idea what the red mouth signifies? Is there a treatment for it?
<Damage... from netting, handling... the colander? Perhaps infection (bacterial likely)... I'd hold off on adding med.s to the system itself.
WOULD add some vitamins, HUFAs (commercial prep... Seachem Vitality; Selco products...) to the food, likely to the water as well; and be patient at this point>
<Should heal on its own in days, a couple weeks. As long as the fish is eating I'd be content. Bob Fenner>

- More on Blue Angels - Oh how wonderful life is with aquaria in hand and doing life's work, without shoving it back to you, and saying here take this you... I have to ask cheers j- are you female or male not that I care but curious!!! <Last time I checked, I was a male - J is short for Jason.> your advice {splendid indeed master splinter} ! I did as you requested and ordered bobs book the conscientious marine aquarist, should be here Monday! <Excellent, I think you will enjoy it.> I really have a question about my blue angel, or my queen angel you see the blue angel has lines that curve back toward the tail and the one I have although 4 inches in length just body not tail look to be straight, and another thing that leads me to believe it is a queen is the dorsal fin from front to back is neon blue as is the fin from front to back on the underside of him is neon blue, and from what I've been reading the adult blue has no blue color! <Hmm... that doesn't happen for quite a while... give it some time and you will see. More on the Holocanthus angels here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/holacanthus/index.htm > I paid 68 bucks for this blue angel so they say, but did I get a blue or did I get a queen? <Hard to say without a photo - I'm guessing by your description that this fish still has it's juvenile colors.> if I got a queen I need to hurry and get a 400 or 5 hundred gal tank right? <No hurry, they don't grow that quickly but either way, both of these fish get considerably larger than four inches and if you want to keep it for a long time, a larger tank will be in your future. Cheers, J -- >

Queen Angel Just wanted to say Thanks for all the great info on the Queen angel. I am going to purchase a 3" (or so) juvenile for my 220 FO, and I wanted to see if there was a good way to distinguish the Queen from a Townsend. Is a Townsend's markings just a subtle mix of the Queen and Blue? Any definite things for the untrained eye to look for?<Not really they are pretty distinguishable> I hear there have been some of both offered locally as Queens these days, so I wanted to try & educate myself on the differences. I was in a LFS today and they tried to sell me what was clearly a blue angel as a Queen.<Yea that is either plain dishonesty or lack of knowledge on the LFS part> Thanks again for your time!<good luck, IanB> 

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