Anableps anableps, sys., sel. 8/5/09
Hey there, my LFS has gotten a shipment of Anableps anableps in. I read
the WWM FAQ on Anableps but have some questions.
<Fire away.>
a.) Are these actually primarily freshwater or brackish fish?
<Very definitely brackish water fish. Funnily enough, was at the London
Aquarium yesterday and saw a whole bunch of them, the bigger ones with
the Monos, Scats, Archers and Chromides in the mangrove pool, and the
smaller ones in the Molly and Mudskipper tide pool habitat.>
b.) What end of the brackish spectrum are they on as far as salinity if
they are brackish?
<Low to middling. They have evolved very specifically to move with the
tide, and as you probably know live in very shallow water. Indeed, to
succeed in captivity you need a just-below-the-waterline platform where
they can rest with their bodies covered but their eyes poking out. I'd
recommend something between SG 1.005 to 1.010 at 25 C.>
c.) Again if they are brackish would they be a candidate for possibly
moving acclimating to a marine environment? (I have done this
successfully with mollies and archer fish)
<Precise salinity probably doesn't matter much, but they cannot possibly
adapt to a "reef tank" environment, so why you'd want them in fully
marine conditions isn't clear me. Would strongly suggest sticking with
the
salinity range described above.>
At the moment I have a freshwater tank and a saltwater tank (1.023
salinity) but don't have a brackish tank and unfortunately won't be
setting one up most likely.
<Anableps absolutely must be kept in a tank designed expressly for them.
They are very difficult to keep unless you [a] get healthy fish and [b]
acquiesce to their needs. Settled fish are wonderfully lively and will
eat anything, greedily! But you will need to provide them with a
spacious tank, good water flow, low to mid salinity brackish water, and
a "table" in the middle of the tank where they can "haul out" like
seals. (A sand bank works just as well, but takes up more room, so most
folks go with the table arrangement.) At the London Aquarium the
Anableps were resting in shallow pools that branched off from the main,
deep pool, and it was instructive to see that the Anableps and the
Mudskippers both exploited these parts of the display.>
I've read a lot of very wide varied information on this species ranging
from completely freshwater to going to saltwater of 1.024 to breed and
living on 1.015 brackish waters normally and would like any advice you
may have on if I'd be able to keep this fish in either of my tanks!
<There are three species, two Pacific, one Atlantic, and to some extent
there are differences between them; according to Fishbase, Anableps
dowei being reported from marine habits whereas Anableps anableps and
Anableps microlepis have not. So unless you can tell the three species
apart, there's a problem right there. I'd recommend sticking to what's
been established by the hobby as workable. If your retailer has some
specimens, and they're a decent size, and feeding happily, would
recommend snapping them up at once if you're at all interested. These
fish are very rare in the hobby, and getting healthy specimens makes a
huge difference, so reducing their exposure to freshwater conditions is
critical. Cheers, Neale.>
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Anableps photos
8/5/09
Hi Bob,
<Neale>
There was a message today about Anableps.
<Yes>
Attached, a couple of photos that might look good alongside the answers
when posted tomorrow. One with two adults, and the other showing a
juvenile resting in a shallow (inch or so deep) pool off the main tank.
Larger, higher-resolution versions available if you need them.
Cheers, Neale
<Will post with credit to you. BobF>
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Re: Anableps anableps
8/5/09
Went by there again today, he has three and to "show them off" he fed
them
flake, pellet, mysis, and bloodworms and they cleaned house. It was
insane
how fast they gobbled everything up.
<Sound like great specimens! Healthy Anableps really are very active,
greedy fish.>
I took one home but reading that they are a shoaling species I may go
back
for another, working on a positive ID right now.
<Good luck... species identity is based on the numbers of scales along
the
flanks. Impossible to do with live fish. For the two Atlantic coast
species, this is from Ghedotti and Wiley:
1a. Scales large, fewer than 64 scales in midlateral scale row --
Anableps
anableps
1b. Scales small, greater than 75 scales in midlateral scale row --
Anableps microlepis
Obviously impossible to do with live fish. Hence, much better to go with
the average, and assume they need low-end brackish. This suits all three
species equally well.>
These three have charcoal opaque fins which I don't seem to see commonly.
In
freshwater for the moment. The reason I'm asking about my saltwater tank
(which is FOWLR and just a couple corals) is that it's much bigger and
would better handle the space requirements of an Anableps.
<Won't work. For one thing, any corals and anemones will sting these
fish.
For another, the live rock will be too abrasive and covered with
stinging
or nippy animals. For a third, the salinity is all wrong. Just don't!>
Moreover it actually has a dock like area where the return pumps from
the
sump come in that I could easily add gravel or sand to. My freshwater
tank
has floating plants which he has already used as a floatation device but
is
only a 3 foot long tank. (SW tank is 4 feet by 2 feet)
<Just to recap: Anableps need very specific conditions to do well. You
ignore these at your peril. You're after about 25% normal seawater
salinity, e.g., SG 1.005 at 25 C. The tank needs to be fairly big, and a
flat table in the middle or along one edge will be necessary so they can
rest. Don't add tankmates and don't bother with plants. The table and
some
sand at the bottom are all they need. They are demanding fish in some
ways,
which is why they are so rarely traded. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Anableps anableps 8/5/09
PS. I've just expanded the Anableps section in my Brackish Water FAQ
with a sketch of what an Anableps aquarium needs to look like.
http://homepage.mac.com/nmonks/Projects/FAQ/5a.html
There's quite a bit more information in my book as well as in two
relevant Aqualog books, the Brackish-Water Fishes one, and the All
Livebearers and Halfbeaks one. Any of these books would be worth either
buying or borrowing via your local public library. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Anableps anableps 8/5/09
Just thought I'd give ya an update. I've decided I really love these
little guys so this morning I went out and purchased a platform with
suction cups and have placed it below the water line so that the
Anableps can crawl up and sit underwater with his eyes above the
waterline.
<Very good.>
I've also lowered the water level so that I can see his eyes on the top
from the front of the tank. The only other fish in the tank are a male
Koi Swordtail and a horse faced loach.
<Xiphophorus hybrids tolerate slightly brackish water very well, as does
the Horseface Loach, Acantopsis choirorhynchus, a species that naturally
comes from brackish as well as freshwater habitats in the wild.
Certainly does well up to around 1.003 at 25 C, possibly a little
higher. So in the short term at least, this community of fish should
work well.>
I'm going to very slowly start adding some salt to the tank. Hopefully
not enough to agitate the other fish. Would you recommend
livebearer salt or actual oceanic salt like I use in my marine tank?
<Marine salt mix. In fact, if the nitrate levels of the marine aquarium
are low (below 50 mg/l, ideally below 20 mg/l) you can freely mix "old"
water from the marine tank with tap water to create brackish water as
required. One part marine aquarium water to five parts tap water should
get roughly the right salinity. Adjust by adding a little more saltwater
or a little more tap water to get SG 1.003 at 25 C. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Anableps anableps. Mormyrids, not brackish f' as well
08/05/09
Sorry to be a nag but I have one final question :) What is the salt
tolerance of Peter's Elephant Nose Fish?
<Nil. They are textbook examples of primary freshwater fish with little
to no tolerance of saline conditions.>
I do NOT have one but am interested in possibly getting one for this
tank as well as a final tankmate.
<Good. Gnathonemus petersii, and indeed Mormyrids generally, are very
difficult to maintain, and you absolutely must research their needs
carefully before purchase. Do see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/mormyrids.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/mormcompfaqs.htm
You're looking at a tank with a sandy substrate, no bottom-feeding
competitors (like Loaches!), plenty of floating plants, and water of
very good quality. Water chemistry isn't critical, but certainly
shouldn't be
brackish!>
I am aware of their unique feeding requirements etc... and can satisfy
those.
<Very good.>
Just wondering if you think they'd be able to handle this setup.
<Not really, no. In any case, suspect you'll have your hands full with
the Anableps. If you want other fish, look at Mollies, Limia, perhaps
Mudskippers (though probably not the super-aggressive P. barbarus).
Flounders/soles might work, but not with the loaches. Cheers, Neale.>
Anableps Update 8/6/09
Realize it's still very soon after our communication, however I've begun
adding small amounts of marine water to the tank, gradually poured in a
Dixie cup's worth of my 1.023 saltwater tank's water throughout the day
yesterday,
<Do watch the salinity in the Anableps tank though... you're aiming for
about 1.003 initially, perhaps 1.005 later on, depending on the
tankmates.>
I also added a large floating turtle dock which I've fastened to the
side and then weighed down with river rock until it's just below the
service, the Anableps has already started making use of it.
<Very good.>
Just thought I'd give you an affirmation email for the information you
provided me because as I'm watching him today his colors have changed
from the charcoal opaque coloration to the normal translucent finnage
color with
proper stripes on the side as they appear in pictures which I think
indicates he's no longer in a stressed state.
<Good the hear.>
He is also happily gobbling up everything I've thrown at him including
some live brine shrimp treats today.
<Excellent!>
Thanks for the advice so far he's really turning out to be a great
purchase. Also I haven't tested salinity yet as I haven't added much,
but my horse faced loach and koi swordtail do not seem adversely
affected at all.
<Glad things are working out so well. Good luck! Neale.>