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Online pictures are available for 30 days I just picked up a Reeflo Dart
with a chipped impeller. I was wondering if this would affect anything.
I have never had a pump this large and with running 24/7 and up to
3600gph, I would imagine that an impeller would need to be perfectly
intact.
<To a point.>
The chip doesn't look bad and there is nothing noticeable about the
performance of the pump. I just wanted to your opinion on the matter.
<It is not overly concerning so long as you are happy with the way the
pump performs and there is no excess vibration. These pumps turn fairly
slow and with the missing piece being near the center it may very well
not be an issue for you. If you do wish to replace this give Chris at
Reeflo a call. Last time I bought one of these impellers it was about
$25 shipped.>
Thanks
Sam
<Welcome, Scott V>
Flow Question…Pump vs. Plumbing Configuration – 10/19/08 Hey
guys, <<Howdy Blake>> With the aid of your site and Reef Central,
I have successfully plumbed my first reef. <<Neat!>> Thanks again.
<<On behalf of the crew… Quite welcome>> I have a quick question
regarding flow for my tank. <Okay>> Here are the details: It's a
150 gal. (48x30x24) with a 50 gal. tall sump. For the sump loop, I have
2 1.5in drains and a 1.5in return. I am using the Herbie method for the
drain (controlling a siphon w/ a gate valve and the second 1.5 is for
safety. It is tested and accommodates easily if the first were to fail.)
<<I’m not a fan of utilizing valves on gravity drain lines as I think
there are better and safer ways of managing the flow, and the second
“safety” drain line will only help in the event of a clog as long as you
keep the maximum flow rate to no more than what a 1.5” gravity drain can
safely handle without a siphon event…which is about 700gph. And ideally,
this second “safety drain” is installed slightly higher than the main
drain to allow you to adjust the sump return flow rate to the main drain
line only>> This is all run using a ReeFlo Snapper that is fed using
1.5 pipe increased to the 2in. intake. <<It is generally best not to
reduce the intake line to a diameter below that of the intake nozzle of
the pump to preclude flow loss…but in this case it’s not an issue
because this pump’s maximum volume rating (2500gph) is way too much for
a single 1.5” drain (keeping in mind that the second drain you installed
is for safety/backup purposes should the first become restricted or
plugged completely). A gate-valve on the output side of this pump will
allow you to dial-it-back as necessary to achieve an optimum flow rate
for your plumbing configuration>> On the output, I have aprox. 2 90
deg. turns and a T at the top reduced down to 3/4 Loc-Line on either
side. <<Hmm, okay…so in terms of headloss, this will add about 5-feet
of head-height to the existing “rise” of the return line (figure 1-foot
of head-loss for each bend/tee and one for each Loc-Line fitting). So
assuming about 3-feet of rise this gives 8-feet of
head-height/head-loss/head-pressure to the pump. Considering the specs
for this pump (high flow w/low wattage and low maximum head-height) I
figure flow has already been reduced more than half by the plumbing
configuration alone>> 1st question. When I ran the system without the
Loc-Line it produced a much stronger flow; <<Aside from
reducing/restricting the output diameter of the pump by half, the
convoluted interior of the Loc-Line causes turbulence which further
restricts flow. Nothing unexpected here in my opinion>> it has been
reduced to the point that I am almost concerned. I would say I have
around 800-1200gph coming from it. <<Mmm…I’m thinking probably lees
than this…especially if the flow is well handled by a “single” 1.5”
drain>> It concerned me because when I added sand the pump had slight
clicking sound that eventually went away. <<Probably ingested some
sand particles…not to worry>> Could I have damaged the pump? <<If
a large piece of substrate were to “wedge” in the volute there is a
possibility of damage to the impeller (breakage or “grinding away” of
the impeller blades)…but fine grains of sand (unless in VERY large
volume) should not be a problem for the pump>> Is this amount of flow
sufficient for the sump? <<I don’t know what your actual flow rate
is…but as little as 300gph would still be fine in my opinion…and much
easier to manage re noise/safety issues. So yes, whatever the flow rate
the pump is producing now is likely fine, as long as it is not
overwhelming the drain>> At its current state, the overflow is pretty
silent and I have no micro bubbles, <<Well there ya go>> but I
thought I would have a bit more flexibility in "horsepower." <<Then I
suggest you remove the valve from the one drain and utilize both within
capacity (about 1400-1500 gph combined)…and get a bigger pump>>
However, if the overall flow is sufficient w/ the CL for the projected
animals (SPS) then no stress. For the closed-loop, I have a Dart with an
OM 4-way. <<Ah, okay…a bigger/more powerful pump…and the 4-way is a
nice little piece of gear too>> It is fed using 2 1.5” intakes and 4
1” outputs in each corner of the tank. They are alternating from each
corner of the tank. The flow from the CL is incredible. <<Excellent>>
Considering the flow schematic, should this be, hypothetically speaking,
sufficient to keep SPS? <<Much more to it than this as you should be
aware…but yes, this flow should be sufficient>> The lighting question
is for another day. ;) <<Alrighty>> Thanks for all the input.
Blake <<A pleasure to share. EricR>> Re: Flow
Question…Pump vs. Plumbing Configuration, pump repair – 10/20/08
FYI... and for the info of the community. <<Cool!>> After I had
capitulated to the fact I had bought an insufficient pump, I realized
that flow of the Snapper was continuing to decrease. <<Strange>>
All things being equal, a pump shouldn't be decreasing flow; ah hah!!! A
clue. <<Indeed>> I decided to test my construction/plumbing and
take the loop apart and inspect the Snapper. In addition to adding sand,
I had also added some carbon to the tank due to some tap water that was
left in the plumbing from the leak test(the tank is cycling now). The
only carbon available at the nearest LFS was Kent Marine Reef Carbon.
While I am not about to make a claim about how the product works, I will
comment on its size. Apparently, Kent Reef Carbon is the exact size to
clog and not damage a Reeflo Snapper impeller. When I deconstructed the
pump it was completely filled with the carbon. I had had an issue with
the filter bag not securing when I put the carbon in the sump and some
had spilled it out. I cleaned it out and it is functioning much better.
<<An interesting discovery…thank you for the update. EricR>>
Can you help, Jebo/Lifetech Pumps 9/24/08 I have a
Lifetech 4660 pump and the ceramic shaft broke do you know where I can
get on Let me know and thanks Mel <Mmm, best to write their
wholesaler/importer/reseller: http://www.jeboaquarium.com/ and ask
where in turn... Bob Fenner> Bubbles and Silicone Grease
9/15/08 Hello, <Cheri> Thanks for taking your time to
answer my questions. <Not a problem.> I read through the
questions regarding micro bubbles in the aquarium and got a bit confused
regarding the use of Silicone Grease and Aquarium O-Ring sealant (are
they the same thing?). <Yes, there are other specialized silicone
greases out there, but the types used for plumbing, diving, cameras, o
rings in general are fine to use.> In my case the bubbles are not a
constant stream, they pump out a very short , light burst every 10
seconds or so. The pump is a Mag 7. I am so paranoid about using any
type of chemical around my tanks....so here goes. To start, there are no
bubbles in the return area of the sump. So, I want to try and see if the
bubbles are coming from air getting in around the unions and/or the pump
face, so would it be OK to use the silicon grease on the O-Ring in each,
or is there a specific type of product I should use? <Any silicone o
ring grease will work for this, the variety found in the plumbing
sections in hardware stores is generally the cheapest.> Also, I plan
on putting some of the grease around each joint in my return system to
see if one of them may be the problem. Is there anything else you might
suggest I try? <Hmmm, I would use plumber’s putty, clay, or even just
regular old silicone for this. Using the grease to diagnose a leaky
joint is going to get messy and the stuff is virtually impossible to
clean off.> Again, thank you for all of the information you provide.
You are a great help. Cheri <Welcome Cheri, thank you. Scott V.>
Rena XP-1 Problems 2/11/08 I have had one set up less than 2
months. I discovered the other day that it wasn't working at all so I
pulled it out and went to investigate. The impeller simply will not turn
in the thing. I can hear it trying too, but that's it. Like I said, the
whole unit is about 2 months old, so I am wondering what kind of problem
I'm having this early. The impeller / impeller housing was all clean...
but it just won't spin! <Ryan, do contact Rena on this problem. Go
here http://www.planetrena.com/contact-us.html> Thanks in advance.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Ryan
Turn off Gen-X pumps for Feeding? 12/22/07 Hi Bob - <Hello,
Scott V. here.> We emailed a while back and you and your crew rule
the world! <Just a small part of it!> That being said: I
have a 100 gallon reef tank with a main pump (currently two Gen-X PCX-40
pumps) pushing my main water from the sump about 12 feet up and into the
display tank. There are also several pumps circulating water within the
display tank. I rigged up a timer system that turns off my main pump for
feeding. I can set it for 15, 30, 45, 60, or 75 minutes. Historically I
had been turning off the main pump for 15 minutes when feeding fish
food, and 30 minutes when feeding plankton. But recently my Sequence
3.5-amp main pump recently froze, after only about 3 years of use. (Yes
I know that pump was way too much for this system even moving water 12
feet). So I replaced it with the two Gen-X pumps. Although I don't
really know why, I suspect that the Sequence froze because of turning it
on and off two to three times per day. <Doesn’t help.> What do you
think? Is it a bad idea to turn off my two Gen-X PCX-40 pumps for
feeding? <Start up is the hardest thing on an electric motor in
service. But, a few times a day is not terribly significant. It will
shorten the life of the pump, but not significantly.> Thanks,
Carl Beels <Welcome, Scott V.>
Re: Turn off Gen-X pumps? 12/23/07 Hi Scott, <Hi again Carl>
Thanks for your prompt reply...I spoke with someone who knows pumps of
all kinds and he said that most pumps actually do not run all the time,
and are designed to turn off and on automatically depending on various
system conditions. <Most pumps do not run continuously, but start up
is still the hardest phase on these pumps.> I think the pump froze
because of a seal leak or possibly because it may have sucked too much
air over time. <Likely.> OK so now I have two questions: 1. Do
you typically turn off your main pumps when you feed your reefs?
<Some do, I personally don’t. Fish get fed by dropper, as they eat more
is dropped in, nothing goes to waste. As far as feeding inverts, it will
be spread about your system anyhow.> 2. Do you use a back-check
valve? This is apparently the norm in many non-aquarium pump
applications to prevent the pump from ever running dry. The
back-check valve would go next to the pump on the suction side. Seems
like that might have saved my pump. <This is commonly used in suction
lift applications, rarely utilized in aquarium use. In this case I would
not use one. Just too much restriction. Does you pump run dry on
startup? It shouldn’t in your case. Otherwise no problem restarting a
pump a few times a day. Good luck, Scott V.>
Curious Pump Issue – 11/22/07 Hello All, <<Greetings Jackie>>
I hope you and your families have a wonderful Thanksgiving. <<Thank
you>> I have a question related to my return pump which is a Mag
Drive 9.5. <<Okay>> The pump has been in use for approximately 1
year. A couple of days ago I noticed it is expelling a large amount of
tiny bubbles into my main tank. Do you know what would cause this to
happen? <<Mmm, I’ve used this brand of pump for many years with good
reliability (though I recently made a switch to the Ocean Runner line of
pumps for some applications)…if the pump is “submerged” this is likely
due to air intrusion somewhere along the plumbing line, rather than any
particular fault in the pump itself. A joint/junction somewhere may have
worked loose and is “sucking air” much like a venturi functions (only
takes a very small pin-hole). It will take a bit of investigative work
on your part to find the fault. One tactic for finding the air leak is
to smear a bit of silicone grease around each joint “one-at-a-time” to
see if the bubbles stop>> Also, should I be concerned about the
health of my inhabitants? <<In my experience, unless the bubbles are
very small and very profuse they are likely more of a nuisance to you,
than anything else>> Thanks, Jackie <<Happy to assist. EricR>>
Mag Drive Pump Sticking 11/3/07 I have a Supreme Mag Drive water
pump (model 5 utility pump) in my sump servicing an ETSS skimmer. It
seems to get stuck and will not turn on every time it is turned off
unless I disconnect it and bang it a few times. I have taken it apart
and it seems clean inside. Any suggestions? New impeller anyway? <I'd
replace the entire impeller assembly.> Also if I do need to replace
it, should I get the same pump in terms of gal/hr flow? <You would
have to see how much flow the ETSS Skimmer can handle. Check with
them or your manual. James (Salty Dog)>
Chiller Pump Is Overheating My Tank! – 07/14/07 Hello there,
<<Hiya Stephen>> I have a brand new Blueline hd-20 external pump
that is being used to pump water through my chiller and re-circulate
the return water in the tank. As seen here
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/mynd/AquaPod/chiller-2.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/mynd/AquaPod/chiller-1.jpg
<<I see it>> The distance is short, the pump is super quiet and
is working like a charm. <<Have heard many good things about
these pumps>> However, the casing on the pump is really hot and
when I mean hot I mean you cannot touch it for more than 5 seconds
in some places. <<Typical of a pump that does not employ a
cooling fan…and one reason it is so “quiet”>> Because of this,
when the water was in the tank tonight at 8pm it was 72 degrees.
<<Hmm...I have to wonder why you think you need the chiller>> By
9pm after adding the water and priming the pump the temperature via
the chiller/heater rose to 77. Here it is 12:36am and the
temperature in the tank in the basement which is 75 degree, with no
lights on in the tank and no salt in the water (just distilled
water) with no filtration in the tank at all has risen to 79
degrees. <<Quite a jump, but your picture shows this pump hooked
to a pretty small tank. You would likely not realize this kind of
increase on a larger system>> Now, the chiller has come on and is
cooling the water back down to 77. <<Doing its job then…>> I
think the external pump is heating up the water. <<Yup…>> This
does not seem normal. <<Why not…it is quite “normal” for the heat
energy generated by the pump to be transferred to the water>> If
the temperature of the casing does get this hot and it is going to
continue to heat my water up and turn on the chiller now, what is
going to happen when the lights are on for 10 hours? <<Indeed…but
did you even determine the need for the chiller/this pump
beforehand?>> The Chiller should not even be coming on now,
<<…?>> it's going to be on 20-hours a day. I just need you to
tell me if this is normal behavior for this type of external pump?
<<It is>> Suggestions are welcome. <<Try placing a small
desktop fan to blow on the pump…this should cool the casing by a few
degrees and limit some of the heat transfer (though you will now
have to deal with the noise of the fan)>> Also, there is no
problem with the pump. It is not making any noise, not shaking,
nothing out of the ordinary. It is brand new and other then the heat
seems to be working perfectly. <<Even “with” the heat, I’m sure
it is working as intended/designed>> What to do? <<Try running
the tank without the chiller/just a fan to blow across the surface
of the water…you may discover you could have saved yourself some
trouble/money>> Kind regards, Stephen <<Be chatting.
EricR>> | 
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Re: Chiller Pump Is Overheating My Tank! - 07/14/07 Thanks for
the quick reply. <<Quite welcome>> Just to verify things. The
reason I have the chiller and external pump is not only to cool the tank
but to allow 240GPH extra circulation back into the tank as you can see
here:
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/mynd/AquaPod/grommetized-1.jpg
<<Ah yes…did get this from your earlier query>> This Chiller also
acts as a heater which auto changes based on the temperature you set it
for. This means no heater in the tank either. As you can see I am
keeping it simple, heh. <<Indeed, and I do understand the desire to
keep ancillary equipment out of such a small display>> I went ahead
and purchased a little fan from Lowes: <<Excellent>>
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=3084-48819-FB1
0-5Q. Works like a charm and I can now easily put my hand on the pump
forever. <<Sometimes the most simple of resolutions…>> The chiller
has stopped coming on except for maybe once all day and the temperature
in the tank has remained a semi constant 77-78 degrees with all the
lights running too. <<Yay!>> Thanks for the information, advice
and for giving me a bit of comfort about the pump. <<Was my pleasure
to assist>> If you post this please include the response and links if
you can for anyone that wants to see this in progress and its outcome.
<<No worries...we do post all…>>
http://www.njreefers.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=322
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Noisy Powerheads, Wavemakers 3-13-07 Dear Crew, <Hi
Guys.> As always, thanks for your help! <Of course.> We have
a 72G reef tank (see photo). <Neat.> For circulation we are
running 3 MaxiJet 1200 power heads linked to a Red Sea Wavemaster
Pro. This set up creates lots of turbulent circulation. <Yes.>
However, we notice that the power heads make a noise when they turn on
as part of the Wavemaster timing sequence. We hear this and the fish
jump. <Mmm...yes, the constant stopping and starting of the
impeller, especially over time can lead to diminished
efficiency. Furthermore when is the last time the pumps were taken out
and cleaned?> Is this sound normal? <If they are old or in need
of a cleaning yes. I would take them out and disassemble the intake
grate...check it for debris as well as clean the impeller area. If there
is calcareous algae build up, remove it.> Is this bad for the fish?
<If the noise is sufficient enough to lead to stress, it's not a good
thing.> Is there a better way to achieve circulation?
<Personally I like closed loop systems better as they can be designed to
be more aesthetically appealing and not impart heat into the display
area.> Thanks in advance for your help. <Anytime.> Jan &
Ellen <AJ.> Belching Return Pump, Possible
Air Leak 2/11/07 Hi Crew, <Hi Jason, Mich with you
tonight.> I'm having a problem with my Quiet One 6000 return pump.
Once every few minutes, it will spew a stream of bubbles into the
display tank. This is preceded by a "shhhh" noise from the pump, like
the sound of opening a soda. <Sounds like an air leak.> The pump
is external, connected to the sump by about 14" of PVC plumbing as
follows: (all 1") bulkhead -> threaded connector -> ball valve ->
connector -> union -> pump. All slip connections are PVC bonded, and all
of the threaded connections have silicone except the union->pump
connector. The bulkhead intake is 12" below the water level of the sump,
and it is not drawing air from the surface. On the return end, I have
pump -> union -> connector -> ball valve -> nipple -> vinyl tubing
-> nipple -> elbow -> bulkhead. <First place I'd check would be the
vinyl tubing.> Any thoughts on what is happening? <Sounds like
you're drawing air somewhere.> My particular confusion comes from
the intermittent nature of the problem... there's some sort of buildup
followed by release of these bubbles from the pump. Would a simple loose
connection or small air leak cause this? <That would be my
thought. Have you tried checking for water leaks while the pump isn't
running? It may require the water to rest in the plumbing for a while
before revealing itself. The pumps may need to be turned off for more
than a few minutes, maybe a hour or so. Obviously make sure all the
exposed plumbing is dry initially.> Thanks for any
advice! <Hope that helps! -Mich> Jason Bubbles in
Main Tank, cavitation? 1/13/07 <Ken, Graham T. with you
tonight.> I have a 180 gallon tank plumbed into the basement which
dumps into a 300 gallon sump. <Big sump. Good.> The return line
is 2" pvc to a hammerhead pump which pumps a head of about 12' in 1.5"
pvc to the tank. I am circulating about 3,500 gallons per hour from the
sump. <I only see one hammerhead pump with a 2"inlet and 1.5"
outlet, and it isn't rated for that head... but I probably missed the
one you have.> I also have a closed loop moving additional water
within the tank with four returns. My issue is that I am having tiny
bubbles returning from the sump to the main tank. The sump is very calm
, tiny bubbles not visible and I have tried a return box with sponges to
trap possible bubbles and multiple inlets to decrease the intake draw of
water, nothing seems to decrease the bubbles. Can my powerful pump be
chopping the water and creating air bubbles. <That would be my
guess. The large differences in pressure associated with pumping volume
at that head with induce cavitation. Cavitation, simply put, is just
water boiling because of the extreme low-pressure on the input side of
your pump. Remember, it is not just heat that makes water boil, but
pressure differential. Adding more lines to feed the tank will do little
or nothing since the low pressure is found at the impeller-housing,
after the 2" restriction. The real change must be made at the out-put
stage. Unfortunately, if you do have the pump I spec'd out (Dart), then
you may be undersized to boot. Either way, utilizing a low-speed pump,
using multiple pumps, or enlarging the inlet-size of your current pump
are all ways to reduce the unsightly bubbles you generate. HTH,
-Graham T.> Thanks Ken
Will a MagDrive-24 Overheat My
System? - 01/03/06 I would like to put a Mag-24 inside the main
tank hidden in back running to an internal manifold with 6 outlets
around the internal rim of the tank (120G) to provide only internal flow
much like the one described in WetWeb. <<This is feasible, though
placing the pump "in the tank" does make for more difficult
maintenance...and you will also find it likely that six outlets are too
many for this size pump after head-loss>> The actual
question is two fold. <<Ok>> 1. Is a Mag-24 too much pump for an
average aquarium with assorted corals and fish? <<I guess that
depends on your definition of "average"...but in this instance/with this
size tank, no, not in my opinion>> According to most charts with all
the tees and 90's I will be adding about 10 ft of head to the pump
leaving approx 1100 gph running for flow. I believe you address this
with about 350 or so at each outlet, I should be ok?... <<Mmm,
no...using these figures you will only be able to provide sufficient
flow for three outlets (these are 1/2"?). But, you may well find three
outlets to be enough>> 2. I have heard they run hot, do you know
just how many degrees I may be adding to the tank or will I be ok in
this area. This is of great concern to me. <<Adding any make/type
pump will usually result in a rise in temperature...and yes, the big
MagDrive pumps can get pretty warm. Just how warm? Hmm, I think on a
tank this size with this pump you could see a 2- to 4-degree increase in
temperature. How "hot" does your tank run now? If you are at the upper
limits already (83F-84F) then yes, this pump will probably push you
beyond the "recommended" limits. But don't discount the effects of
evaporative cooling...the addition of a small fan or two to increase
evaporative cooling can normally compensate for this small increase>>
The reason to add it to the tank is to make the tank as problem proof as
possible. <<I see...and of little consequence re "heat" issues as
adding the pump to the sump would have the same effect>> No hoses
running to and from the tank just for flow. It would be all internal.
<<Can be/has been done, though as stated it does make servicing the
pump/loop a bit more hassle>> You guys are great by the way.
<<Thank you...tis a pleasure to assist>> Sometimes I get information
overload on here just reading to learn.....wow.
<<Hee-hee...indeed!>> r/ Kevin <<Kevin, unless you're
already "maxed-out" on heat in your system you can probably add the pump
and deal with the heating issue without having to employ a
chiller. Regards, EricR>>
SW Pb, valves 10/03/06
Hi <Greetings> I have 2 mag drive 9.5 pumps. I tried to contact
the company that I purchased the pumps from and they have yet to reply
to me. I was curious if I would be able to place a ball valve on the
return line... would this damage the pump in any way.... <Yes you
may. A gate valve would be a much better idea though as they provide for
finer adjustment among other positive attributes. Be aware that there is
a limit to how far you can throttle these pumps down before they will
shut off or overheat.> thanks <You are welcome - Emerson>
Adam Dusza Tufa has been removed Thanks for the
informative response the other day. <always welcome> The Tufa
rock has been removed, not only from my tank but also from my property.
The vendor kindly refunded my purchase price on the returned goods.
<a good way to honor/keep a customer> This evening I was again
reading the FAQs and noticed with alarm that I have one of the well
advertised and less well loved Lifegard pumps. It is presently on its
second motor. <yes... the "Not-so-stainless steel" shaft that leaks>
It will not receive another. Given that the life expectancy of this
circulator is certainly limited I am in the planning stages of replacing
the thing. <a great pump for freshwater though> The manufacturers rate
the capacity of their pumps in the face of various head losses. Without
going to engineering tables, what do you use as a rule of thumb to add
head restriction for 90s and other fittings in addition to the easily
measured physical lift from sump to tank? <add one foot of head for
each elbow, valve connection and ten feet of horizontal run in addition
to the height> My tank is 48 x 18 x 20 inches and came equipped with
a 1 1/2" standpipe. I built an 18 Gal sump to increase the water volume
a bit and to have a place to add essentials. Would you be so kind as to
recommend the appropriate MagDrive (as they are available locally) to
hustle all of the water around at the required rate? <I believe that
there is a mag 1100/1200 that would be quite comparable to your
Lifeguard if you are otherwise pleased with the flow> I sincerely
enjoy the fruits of your collective labors. Cheers, from B.C., Fred.
<thanks kindly, northern friend! Anthony Calfo> Foreign
Particles in Tank/Using the Wrong Pump Pads - 09/04/06 Hello
crew how are you doing? Hope you are all fine and well.
<<Hello...EricR here, and yes, doing well thank you>> The last time
I asked you a question was last year concerning my pistol shrimp. An
update on that is that I have 2 yellow watchman gobies that have paired
with this one shrimp, and that is the coolest thing in my tank.
<<Indeed!>> Ok, I'll build into my question. Basically what
happened when I first got the tank was that the pumps were noisy, so the
person from my LFS gave me some cushioning I can put under them in the
sump. <<Some folks use rubber "mouse pads" for this...Neoprene also
works well>> Unfortunately, this material has dissolved into what
looks like dust particles and its pretty nasty. <<Yikes!...obviously
they gave you the wrong material to use>> The problem is that these
particles don't go away and are on the bottom of my sump, and are
covering significant portions of my live rock hiding a lot of their
beauty. <<That's not good>> I was wondering if you knew if I can
get a sieve or very fine filter to eliminate this stuff? <<Hmm, you
can try placing a filter-sock over the end of the pipe outlet from the
tank overflow>> I was thinking of putting it in front of the return
hose from the sump, so that over time it will all be collected. Do you
know if this is possible? <<Not sure I understand what you're
saying...if you mean the pump return to the tank then no, I don't think
that is practical...better to try my idea or something similar to trap
the material as it returns to/processes through the sump>> To give
you a better description of the 'dust', it looks like small brown
strands of dust. I know there are products to eliminate cloudiness by
making smaller particles clump together, do you know if this is
possible? <<I wouldn't recommend using a flocculent here, it may do
as much/more harm than good by clustering/smothering your
micro-organisms>> I hope my question is clear, it's sort of a unique
problem so I hope you understand what I'm asking. <<Try the
filter-sock, or even placing some filter floss in the flow path through
your sump. Also, once the filter material is in place, use a turkey
baster of similar to stir up the "dust" in the display tank to help it
get to the sump for trapping/removal>> Thanks for your time and
help! <<Regards, EricR>> Mag Drive Pump Slowing Down
8/1/06 Hello Wet web, <Hello Mike> One question for you.
I have a Mag drive 9.5 pump that pumps water through my chiller 4' below
my tank and back up 4'. The pump has slowed down dramatically since I
installed it (1 1/2 months ago). Are these pumps not meant to pump with
this configuration? <I would disassemble the pump and look for
blockage in the impeller chamber. This pump has a maximum head of 14
feet and should work well with a chiller providing the chiller lines are
not restricting flow.> Thanks for the help, You're
welcome, James (Salty Dog)> Mike
Optimistic Flow Rates - 07/11/06 First of all great website,
I've learned tons and spent hours reading posts, thank you. <<You're
quite welcome...glad you find the site beneficial>> I tried to find
my question but had no luck. <<Let's see if I can help>>>> I
have a 300 gal FOWLR with a 50 gal sump. I am running two twin tube
hang on the back overflows, both with twin 1" drains. I read I should
be gravity feeding 1200 GPH for each box totaling 2400 GPH to my sump.
<<Read? Where? No way on Earth you're gonna get 1200 gph to "gravity
flow" through a 1" drain. 1200 gph may be the "rated" flow on the
overflow boxes...but it's not going to happen with a single 1" drain>>
My return pump is the Mag 2400. I want high flow as I have groupers and
triggers in this tank. <<Mmm, yes...most all fish species appreciate
good water flow. Though I'm skeptical when it comes to processing this
much water through a sump. But if the noise, bubbles, splash is not an
issue with you...>> I used 1" for everything. <<Not big enough>>
Right off the pump I have a check-valve, spring type from Lowes and a
ball-valve on top of that all in the return line. <<The check-valve
is not a good idea. Aside from metal contamination from the spring and
the huge lose of flow incurred when using these devices, the valve will
inevitably fail at some point...usually when no one is around for a long
period. Much better to adjust your skimmer boxes, return lines, and the
water level in the sump to handle all transient water when the power is
off. I'd also like to suggest you replace the ball-valve with a
gate-valve...will give you much more "finesse" when flow adjustment is
necessary>> Then it goes up the back of the tank and tee's to the
ends when I have a 90 up then a 90 over then a 90 down and a 45 into the
tank. <<Mmm...head pressure indeed. Between the check-valve and the
elbows I doubt your getting little more than half the rated flow of the
pump>> I hope you can picture this. <<I can>> The problem is
even with all that head pressure from 10 90-degree fittings, the
ball-valve and the 45-degree fittings, I can't run the pump at even 50%
or the aquarium overflows. <<Not surprising. At the "most", I think
you should expect 500-600 gph from the 1" drains...about half that if
you want a bit of a "safety margin" or to keep things quiet>> I have
to turn the ball-valve closed by almost half way for the tank to not
overflow. <<Indeed>> Will changing the return plumbing to 2"
help fix my problem? <<Ahh yes! Will improve things by a huge
margin>> Very confused, and lots of different formulas and theories.
<<Agreed...and most seem a bit "optimistic" to me where flow rates are
concerned>> Please Help. Thank you, David <<I hope I
have. Regards, EricR>> Pump Restrictions
7/9/06 Hi, how are you? <Let me try my best Tom Leykis
impersonation "Hunter.. Do you care?" - I'm fine thanks for asking.>
I have a question about restricting your pump's output, i heard that
restricting the input can burn the motor while also hearing that
restricting the output will do no damage at all. <No damage but
will create head-loss rather quickly.> Then the other day my LFS
employee said you can not restrict a pump's outtake too much or it will
ruin the motor. <Depends on how much back-pressure there is and if
the pump is built to handle it.> I have been running a 20 gallon
FOWLR + a cleaner shrimp with only nitrate being my only problem, but
that is kept under control by weekly water changes of 5 gallons. However
i am moving up to a 90 gallon and am running two life guard filters
(mechanical and chemical) just incase i ever need them with a wet dry
and 15 gallon refugium mainly for nutrient export and nitrate reduction.
<The canisters (mechanical/chemical media) is s detritus trap and
probably the source of your nutrient problems...you need to replace
these with a large protein skimmer.> My main pump is a mag drive
2400. i know this is too much but can i use it if i use a ball valve
on the output to restrict the water flow. <Should be okay, put I
would be careful as to how much you restrict it.> Thanks Very much
for any info. <Anytime.> A young up coming aquarist <I'm
young....or so I'm told.> Hunter <Adam J.>
Blueline
Pump Noise 6/16/06 Hi Crew: <Gregory> It’s
been a while since I needed to bother you guys, but…?! I have a new
Blueline pump and it is making a lot of noise. It is hard to tell
whether it is from the pump or the PVC leading to the pump. It might be
cavitation, but how to tell?? <Drain the water from this plumbing,
turn the pump on and listen...> I have a 2” drain that is eventually
cut down to a 1 ½” ball valve and then the 1” input for the pump.
<... there should not be such a restriction/ball-valve in front of the
pump... this, like most centrifugal pumps made for aquarium applications
is for "pushing" not pulling... in other words, you may well have a
cavitation issue> One interesting thing (at least to me) is that
when I pour my water change or top off water near the input to the pump,
the bubbles make the pump almost silent. <Dangerous to mix water and
air together here...> I don’t know if that means anything but
thought I would mention it. I thought these pumps were pretty quiet,
so thought I would ask. Have you guys heard anything…have any
suggestions for me?? Thanks, Greg <Mmm, you've tried opening the
ball valve completely? I'd remove any intake screens from this side of
the pumps, and see if this quiets this pump down... you may have air
trapped around the impeller/volute that could account for this noise as
well... this can be a bit hard to remove, but may be able to be flushed
by pressurizing the line (like with a garden hose) while the pump is
temporarily turned off. Bob Fenner>
Regulating Pump Flow... Inadequate Factory Overflows - 06/12/06
Hi Crew, <<John>> I bought an Eheim 1262 to use as the return
from my sump to my 90g (with AGA Megaflow). <<I love Eheim
pumps...wish we could get some of the bigger ones over here>> It's a
great pump, but it seems too powerful for the Megaflow system. <<Not
so "Mega-", eh?>> Actually, I should say it seems too powerful to
run the Megaflow quietly - water rushes though the system and it sounds
like a dishwasher. <<Typical of these undersized (Mega or not)
factory overflow systems>> I've read through the FAQs and this seems
like a common problem. <<VERY common>> One suggestion that
helped was to increase the diameter of the hole at the top of the
Megaflow drain tube. However, my system is still extremely noisy,
unless I pinch and restrict the flow coming out of the Eheim.
<<Replacing the Megaflow drain tube with a Durso-style standpipe might
allow both an increase in flow AND a reduction in noise...but still no
replacement for the simple want/need of a larger throughput>> So my
question is (finally) is it safe to add a ball-valve on the return side
of the Eheim, or will this produce too much back pressure and jeopardize
plumbing connections? <<This is quite safe and satisfactory, though
I would install a gate-valve as opposed to the ball-valve for better
"finesse" of the flow. Magnetic drive pumps such as the Eheim respond
to/endure this type of control/adjustment very well. But do make sure
you install the valve on the "output" side of the pump>> Would it be
better to step down to the Eheim 1260 and let it run unrestricted?
<<Not in my opinion. The plumbing lines will eventually start to
restrict from bio/mineral accumulation...but with a twist of the valve
you can step up flow to compensate>> Thanks, John H. <<Quite
welcome, EricR>> Isolate vibration of closed loop pump... Newspeak
re pumps, plumbing 6/6/06 I have done a lot of
research into closed loop systems, I plan on installing one on my next
system. In the many photos I see of closed loop external pumps they
are almost always plumbed right to ridged PVC pipe. I think it would be
quieter and transmit less vibration to connect the pump with some type
of soft connection to isolate vibration, I have seen just one picture of
this type of setup. Your thoughts are much appreciated. Stephen
Blalock <... Let's see if I interpret what you seem to be looking
for... I do agree with the approach of utilizing a bit of flexible
tubing at the junction mentioned... for the purpose of reducing
vibration for a few ends (most notably noise and shimming of connectors
over time, salt creep and leaking...), as well as making a connection
that can easily be broken... This being stated, the same can be achieved
by securing the pump to a stable platform, using true union couplers...
and this latter is more favorable in terms of not reducing intake
(important) and discharge flow through induced drag with the flexible
plumbing and added fittings to attach same. Bob Fenner>
Bad
Pump? 6/4/06 I've got a Maxi-jet power head,
and can't seem to get the water flow started. Is there a trick to this?
<'Tis a plug and play product...if it's new return it, sounds
defective.> Pete. <Adam J.>
Teeing off to two pump
intakes - 04/27/06 Hi crew, It may be stupid
question, but I'll ask it anyway! Is it possible to tee off two
external pumps from one bulkhead fitting? If so, is it recommended?
<Mmm, in general a poor idea. Most small aquarium pumps are
centrifugal, designed to push, not pull... restricting their intake
results in a loss of efficiency, generation of more waste heat,
shortened "lives". Bob Fenner> Thanks
Scott Griswold Tank Overheating With Many External Pumps -
04/25/06 Good morning all, <<Hello!>> I've spent at
least a couple hours every day looking over the problems that others
have had, and this has helped me beyond words in setting up my new 150
gallon tank. <<Mmm, yes...not repeating other's mistakes...>>
So, first I just want to say thank you for taking the time to help all
of us! <<A collaborative effort...you're quite welcome>> I've
been battling a problem with my external pumps overheating my tank. My
water temperature reaches 85+ degrees in the winter time when the
ambient room temperature is 64. <<Wow!>> I have an office fan
blowing cool air on low from behind the canopy to keep the temp at
around 79 degrees. <<Sounds fine...I utilize fans and a small
chiller to maintain my tank at around 80F in the winter, and around 83F
in the summer>> Yesterday, we finally broke the 70 degree mark
outside, and our house heated up to around 78 degrees. I had to use
both office fans on high to keep the tank below 84 degrees, and that's
without my halides! <<Does seem excessive>> I know that 84
degrees is tolerable by many animals, but this seems to be an excessive
amount of heat exchange when it's coming from just the pumps, and 20
degrees of heating without lights or a heater makes for a huge hurdle
going into summer. <<Indeed!>> Here's some info
about my tank: Dimensions: 48x24x30 (LWH) Canopy and stand are made
from MDF and 2x4 constructions. The canopy has an open back for more air
flow, and 4 Ice Cap variable fans in the canopy top exhausting any heat
in the canopy. Ebo Jager 250-Watt heater - removed to determine that
this was not the cause. Pumps: - Blueline HD70 - 1750 Gal/Hr - 290
watts (Panworld 200PS-MD70R) - Closed Loop at the rear of tank to 1"
spray bar with 1/2" tees. - Blueline HD30 - 590 Gal/Hr - 90 watts
(Panworld 50PX-MD30R) - AquaC EV180. - Iwaki WMD 40RLXT - 1080
Gal/Hr - 1.9 Amps (218 watts?) - Tank return tee'd off to two SQWDs so
each corner of the tank has random flow towards the reef. - Dolphin
AmpMaster 4000/3000 - 3000 gal/hr through 1.5 inch pipe -1.21 Amps (140
watts?) - Closed loop at the bottom of the tank, 1.5" tee'd into (2) 1"
pipes the go to opposite ends of a spray bar with 1/2" tees. True
flow is probably about 2000 gal/hr because of the way it's plumbed.
Lighting: - (3) 95 Watt VHO (custom hood lacks room for 46.5 inch
bulbs) (2) 50/50, (1) Actinic - (2) 250 Watt HQI Ice Cap reef
pendants with (2) 10K bulbs (halides not being used yet) Chiller:
- Pacific Coast 1/4 HP Chiller (not used yet, because I don't want to
mask the problem), it's rated to cool 150 gallons about 20 degrees.
This won't be big enough if I'm using it for my pumps & halides during
summer. <<I'd still give it a try before going "bigger">> Sump:
- Sump - 25 Gallons (a little small for the evaporation rates I'm
getting which is approximately 3 - 4 gals/day. <<May seem like a lot
for this size system, but is not excessive...contributed to by the
fans...low relative humidity in your house/area>> So, a lot of info
for an implied question. <<Mmm, yes...and no real "clues" that
anything is abnormal regarding your equipment/setup>> Is this a
normal amount of heat given my pump selection? <<Is a lot of
pumps...some heating would be expected, but generally not to the extreme
you describe>> Are any of these pumps known for heat issues?
<<As compared to some others...no>> I've tried plumbing my AmpMaster
4000/3000 with 2" PVC and not use the Blueline 70HD, but with 2 spray
bars in different locations it was nearly impossible to achieve the flow
rates I was hoping for, because of all the Tees & 90 degree elbows.
<<Understood>> I've cleaned all of the intake screens, and I've
positioned the pumps so their exhaust is not impeded. None of the pumps
seem hot to the touch, more like a warm cup of coffee. <<Hmm,
curious...what about the impeller housings?>> Any ideas would be of
great help, <<I think first you have to isolate the source causing
the problem. Shut down all but the return pump and see if the water
temperature falls. If it does, fire up the other pumps one at a time
and evaluate each pump for its heat exchange/transfer capacity. If you
find the offending pump, perhaps it is an aberration and fixing the
problem will be as simple as changing it out with another (gee, it's
easy for me to spend your money <G>), or maybe scrutinize the plumbing
for something that may be contributing to excessive heat...like
excessive head/back pressure. You're only/best option at the end of the
day may be to fire up that chiller>> Thank you! -David <<I'd
be interested to know what you discover. Regards, EricR>>
Tank Overheating With Many External Pumps II - 04/26/06 Thanks
Eric for your quick reply, <<Quite welcome David>> I have
checked all of the impeller housings, and they all seem to be clear.
<<Okay>> I started shutting down the pumps individually and waited
several hours to see if I could isolate the problem. I found that the
Blueline HD70 was probably the biggest contributor with a temp drop of
around 5 degrees. <<a lot>> I went back to reading WWMedia about
plumbing pressure rated pumps, and I came across an article from Mr.
Fenner explaining that these pumps want to push rather than pull which
makes sense, but it got me thinking about the plumbing. I have more
bends and elbows on the intake side than the output side, and now I'm
flashing back to a problem I was originally having which was cavitation
on the intake vinyl tubing I originally installed. It was completely
cutting off the intake flow after a few minutes of operation.
<<Ahh...maybe on to something here...have to think starving the pumps
would certainly cause a rise in temperature>> Now I'm planning on
replumbing the intake to 1 1/2" from the bulkhead like this: 1 1/2"
Bulkhead fitting---Ball Valve---barbed nipple---spa-flex---barbed
nipple---Union--1 1/2" to 1" threaded reducer---Blueline. This will
give me more to draw from, and get rid of the elbows. <<Much better
my friend...with one observation. Unless you have the valve here to
allow removing the pump (for service/replacement), I recommend you place
your valves on the "output" side. If the valve is there for servicing
the pump, then I would place it as "close to the pump" as possible>>
Anyway, thanks for putting me on the right track with isolating the
problem, and thanks to everyone there for your collaborative efforts!
<<Have no doubt you would have figured it out...but you're very
welcome>> Just a quick side note: Don't mount this pump on the
backside of your stand, because there's a lot of low-end vibration that
resonates though the cabinet and even the floor like an electric raiser
on a bass drum. <<Very true>> Also, to further minimize the
vibration from these pumps, go to a computer store and buy a
gel-filled mouse pad that would normally go under your wrist to keep it
straight when using a mouse. I put one of these under the pump, and
voila!!! Nothing but a quiet fan. <<Indeed, I even use vibration
dampening pads under my submerged pumps...this, combined with a “short”
run of spa-flex or flexible vinyl tubing at the pump inlets/outlets can
make a world of difference. EricR>> -David
Equipment/Pumps/Cavitation 4/10/06 Hi, <Hello
Mark> You're are best hope at solving this problem. I have had a
reef tank for about 7 years now. I would now consider myself pretty
experienced at all things water/pumps/etc. I am now stumped. I
have a 120gal w/55gal sump (sump is located below main tank in
basement). It's a great setup since I can do water changes,
maintenance, etc. easily. In my continuing effort to improve things I
removed the pump to my skimmer and I tapped into the main return
line (which goes to main tank) to run my skimmer. This pump can run
both w/enough power to spare. My problem is the tee I inserted inline
now causes air bubbles in show tank. I thought of inserting a "Y"
instead, however, I am not sure this will prevent air bubbles as
well. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Thank you in
advance for your help. <Mark, I believe you are drawing air somewhere
in the newly inserted "T". James (Salty Dog)> Best, Mark
Equipment/Pumps 4/6/06 Hi I've read through
your articles and I know I've seen one on this but I can't seem to find
it again. I have a Mad <Mag?> drive 1200 pump connected to a downdraft
skimmer. The pump will run quiet for a while then start making a
suction with gurgling noises the same way a bathtub does when you drain
it. Do you have any suggestions on how to fix this? <Sounds to me like
the pump is sucking air, water not high enough above intake.>
Thanks, <You’re welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Danielle
Equipment/Pumps/Iwaki Complaint - 2/28/2006 Hi guys
(gals)! Peter here. <James on this side.> I just wanted to let you and
other potential Iwaki pump purchasers know about my recent saga.
<Shoot.> I purchased an MD-70 (Japanese motored) via Marine
Depot. When I installed the pump, it was extremely loud - not
vibration, but the fan on the back makes a very loud "whooshing"
noise. <Typical.> The second my wife walked in from work, she said
"what is that noise." The tank is in the other room, across the
house. I removed it after maybe 2 hours of operation. I contacted
Marine Depot who told me that once the pump has touched water, they can
not accept it for return as Iwaki would not accept it back. He
recommended that I contact Iwaki direct and find out if they would do a
refund or exchange it for a smaller pump which would be quieter (in
his words). So I contacted Iwaki and explained the situation. They
said they would be more than happy to swap out the pump for a smaller
model - I requested nothing for the difference in cost of the
smaller pump. At this point I was very happy as I mailed off the
pump. Then 2 weeks later, I call to check on the status. This is
where it goes south. The gentleman says, "oh, it arrived last week, but
I don't know if they've looked at it yet. Let me check and call you
back." A few minutes later, I get a call and he tells me, well, the
cord is shorter than it was when originally sold, and thus, they can
not accept the pump back. <Some companies do have strict policies as sad
as it may be.> Now those of you who have researched the Japanese
motored Iwaki pumps know that they do not come with a plug on the
cord. So when I received the pump, I went to Lowe's and bought a
plug (with cord) to attach. I cut the cord on the pump maybe 8-12
inches in order to avoid having 3 feet of excess - as I think anyone
would do? There was still a good 2 feet of slack on the pump cord. Now
they say that because the cord is shorter, that they can not resell
it and thus can not accept it back. Why don't they put a cord on the
darned thing to begin with if they don't want people altering it? IT'S
A $5 CORD, HOW HARD IS IT TO ATTACH A NEW CORD? It's a $300 pump,
you would think that something this simple would be nothing compared to
customer satisfaction. I guess that doesn't matter any more.
After all of the good things I heard here about Iwaki and their pumps, I
must say I completely disagree. They may last a long time, but they are
by no means quiet (by any definition of the word) and their customer
support is terrible. Sorry for my rant, but I think others should be
aware of what they are getting into. As for WWM - The site is great
and here, customer service is top priority (and we don't even pay
anything for it). PRICELESS <Peter, thank you for the kind words, about
us anyway. I'm sure Mr. Fenner will post this on the Wet Web. Will
serve as a warning to Iwaki pump buyers not to alter the unit in any way
so as to protect the warranty and/or exchange privileges. <James (Salty
Dog)> Best regards, Peter
Flow Rate/Back-Pressure
Issues - 02/06/06 I have never really gotten the performance I
expected from my two Sequence 3600 pumps. Based on distance, I
calculate no more than 8 or 9 head of resistance which should get me at
least 1200 GPH per pump. I'm lucky to get 25 percent of that.
<<Hmm, maximum head height (the point at which flow is reduced to zero)
is 12 feet for this pump...and you're awfully close.>> The
manufacturer suggests the biggest problem is the 1.5" output from the
pumps is immediately "Teed" to two 3/4" return lines. <<Ah
yes! This pump is designed for high "volume" but does not seemingly
deal well with back-pressure. Teeing and reducing the line like you
have done will reduce flow greatly.>> Would the fact that the return
lines travel about 5 feet across to the bottom of the prefilter box (and
then proceed up another 3 feet), cause such a tremendous decrease in
flow rate? <<The added friction/pressure from the reduced diameter
will inhibit flow, yes.>> Does going from 1.5" line to two 3/4"
lines do that? <<Absolutely...if the pump can't overcome the
back-pressure to keep up the flow.>> Would there be any benefit in
putting the "T" after the five feet of diagonal travel over to the
bottom of the prefilter box so that it will stay at a 1.5" line until it
enters the bottom of the tank? <<This would help, yes. "How much"
will only be determined by giving it a try.>> Unfortunately, there
is no possibility I can run 1.5" line into the tank as the holes are not
big enough and there is no room to expand them. <<Mmm...I imagine
this was one of the so called "reef ready" tanks/installations. EricR>>
Re: Flow Rate/Back-Pressure Issues - 02/06/06 Thanks, you have
confirmed my fears. <<Welcome>> I will consider a pressurized
pump that might be able to fight the back resistance, but the problem is
the ones I have looked at are two big (bulky) for my current set up.
<<Mmm, have you tried looking at the GRI pumps (Gorman Rupp
Industries)? The model 520 is quite compact and would likely fill the
bill.>> Live and learn. (By the way this was a "reef-ready" set-up
from a well known aquarium manufacturer. Their tank itself is fine but
there engineering of the plumbing has proven to be questionable).
<<Ah yes, and this is not limited to a few. Most all manufactured "reef
ready" setups have throughputs that are not suited/sized to the purpose
implied. Regards, EricR>> Jeffrey Trouble getting pump to
restart 12/30/2005 Hi crew, <Hello Dave> Odd thing
happened today... every day I unplug my pump before feeding, to prevent
pellets from being sucked into the filter and festering... I've had
this system about a year now... and today when I plugged it back in it
wouldn't start. So, I went and got my spare from the basement, but just
on a lark I tried plugging the original back in again-- and lo, it
started just fine. This is a small submersible pump, I have no idea what
kind, it is the one that came with my JBJ 12g Nano-Cube. FW tank.
What would cause this to happen? Is it a sign that the pump is going
"bad"? And in what way? Or is this simply a "feature" of cheapo
submersibles? My worst fear is that there is some kind of short, but if
that were so then why would it have restarted? If there is a short
it's not dumping enough current into the water to be noticeable when
I... ah... stick my hand in the water... hm...<This is why I like to
see people use GFCI's on their aquariums. As far as the pump...not
unusual. They are not made to last forever especially for how cheap
they are. Try taking it apart and clean the impeller, rinse the hole out
good where the impeller assembly goes. James (Salty Dog)> Happy new
year to you all!<And to you> Thanks, -Dave
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