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Baby red fish? 9/14/15
I was in Maine old orchard Beach and was walking on the beach and found 2 of
these little guys about 1 1/2 inches long... They were both still alive so i
walked them back out into the ocean.... What are they??
Thank you...... Lisa
<Ahh; quite a find. This/these are Bigeye/s (family Priacanthidae); likely these
are juveniles of the species Pristigenys alta (the Short Bigeye); "blown up" via
currents from further south. This fish is common in the Caribbean at 100-600
foot depths.
Thank you for sharing. Bob Fenner>
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Catalufa Jaw Problem 5/27/2011
<Wendy... nine megs of pix? Am out of the country... we ask
that folks
limit to hundreds of Kbytes...>
Dear WWM crew,
I have enjoyed spending many hours perusing through the vast
information on your site, thank you. I hope you can help with my
question and maybe it will be of help to a future reader as
well.
<Good>
Here is some back ground information:
150 gallon tank
30 gallon sump
10 gallon refugium (would love to go bigger or add another)
AquaC 240 EV skimmer
Orphek PR-156s and PR-ML7 lighting
Multiple Power heads positioned around tank
250 pounds of live rock
Stocked with pair of Ocellaris clowns, pair of Pj Cardinal fish,
5 green-blue Chromis, Starry Blenny, Seaweed Blenny, red legged
hermits, serpent star, brittle star, snails, Derasa clam (had 1
month, so far so good) and a Popeye Catalufa.
Corals include Heliofungia actiniformis (absolutely huge and
doing well),
<Not easily kept; you're to be congratulated>
Fungia (happy), Euphyllia parancora (grown from 2 heads to 14 in
3 years), Euphyllia paradivisa (2 kinds, one hosts the clowns,
growing and happy), various Corallimorphs, Sarcophyton (grown
from 2" to 6" in a year), Sinularia (grown from 2"
to 12" in 3 years), Clove polyps (spreading constantly),
<Keep these cut back>
Caulastrea furcata (grown from 2 heads to 18 heads in 3 years),
Cynarina lachrymals (huge and happy), Zoanthids, Purple Acropora
(new and 2") and a Seriatopora (in 3 weeks and there is new
growth very visible).
Consistent parameters:
78.5-79.5 degrees Fahrenheit
Nitrates 0
Alkalinity ranges between 8.4 to 11
Specific Gravity 1.025
ph 8.2
I do at least a 10% water change weekly, normally with seawater
taken from 3 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico. Of course, if water
conditions are not right or my husband is not taking the boat
out, the change happens with mixed saltwater. I have done this
for three years now. I know, I know it is risky.
<Life "is a risk"; this aspect/practice not so
much>
My dear husband is installing a RO/DI system next week.
I feed all sorts of various items to keep everyone
happy...silversides, live glass minnows caught along remote
island, normal looking live minnows caught in canal, glass
shrimp, oysters, fresh grouper, mussels, brine shrimp,
Cyclop-eeze, Mysid shrimp, live sea monkeys (love to use that
term), spectrum sinking pellets, Spirulina brine shrimp, krill ,
fresh trout and a homemade coral concoction of all that plus
various sushi grade seaweed ground up and frozen.
Alright, lets get to the reason for this email. My most favorite
fish, the Popeyed Catalufa, is not happy. It has been in the tank
for 3 months. It was skinny when purchased, but has fattened up
with the live food alternated with night time hand feeding. I
recently added 7 blue-green Chromis to keep a 2 year old Chromis
company. Within the first three days, 3 of the Chromis
disappeared and the Catalufa's belly looked rather large each
morning.
<Did likely eat>
It was after this we noticed the lower jar of the fish hanging
open as you can see in the photos. The Catalufa will still eat,
but has a harder time grabbing and getting the hand fed food down
and it cannot catch live food anymore. I am assuming the jaw is
out of joint from engorging on Chromis.
<Maybe... or from physical damage>
What can I do?
<Not much unfortunately. There isn't a S.O.P. for
rearticulating such jaw "breakages"...>
As long as it is still eating from hand feeding, should I wait it
out?
<Yes>
I am concerned about removing the Catalufa and massaging the jaw
back in place due to injuring the fish more.
<Risky>
This fish rocks and I hope to have it a long time. (I understand,
as the Catalufa grows I will move out menu candidates to
friends' tanks.) It is very amazing that the Catalufa hangs
within 2 inches of the male clown and pays absolutely no
attention, maybe coloration?...
<Sizing it up as a food item more likely>
now on the other hand, the action of the Chromis is very
intriguing to the Catalufa. The blennies stay below radar
currently. I don't want to lose this fish, please be as
specific as possible.
Thank you for your advice.
Sincerely,
Wendy
<I would just wait, be patient. If you do net, pull this fish
out, do so for only an instant. Bob Fenner>
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Re: Catalufa Jaw Problem 5/27/2011
Good Morning,
I tried to compress photos, let me know if it worked.
Thank you,
Wendy
<Mmm, down to 5.922 Megs... better, but no cigar. B>
Re: Catalufa Jaw Problem 5/27/11
This may be it. Let me know if these work.
Thank you,
Wendy
<613 Kbytes... Winnah! B>
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Fish ID 8/12/09
Do you know what type of salt water fish this is. It was caught
off the coast of nc (topsail beach, nc).
<The fish you caught is a Short Bigeye (Pristigenys alta),
usually found on rocky bottoms in 300 to 600 feet of
water.>
I Google it for the life of me.
Thanks!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
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Mystery Squirrelfish 07/20/2008 Hi
Bob, <Neale> Can you put a name to this fellow? Obviously a
Holocentrid of some type, <Mmm, actually a "look
alike" family, the Big Eyes, Priacanthidae... Maybe
Pristigenys alta...
http://fishbase.org/identification/specieslist.cfm?famcode=303&areacode=>
but I'm afraid that's as far as I can go. On sale at a
local fish shop here for ?130, about $250 or so. <Wowzah!>
Quite a big beast, about 15 > cm from snout to tail.> >
Feel free to use the image on WWM!<Will post, share> >
Cheers, Neale <And you, BobF>> |
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Re: Mystery Squirrelfish 07/20/2008
Hello Bob, <Big N> Thanks for this. Yes, looks like the beast
in question. Would I be correct in saying these fish, being deep
water/nocturnal fish, require cooler than average conditions?
<Mmm, there are some cooler water species... this one is... oh,
I see this below> Given the subtropical distribution of this
species, I was hazarding a guess around 18-22 C (68-72 F).
<Yes> I'm writing up a "shop tour" and my
not-too-subtle intention is to make it clear to readers that this
fish can't be thrown into the average reef tank but will need
its own quarters. Cheers, Neale <Ahh, I do concur, encourage the
inclusion of this note. Cheers! BobF> |
From Catalufa lover Hi Bob, just
read one of your articles on the Popeye Catalufa. I just recently
became an obsessed Catalufa owner. And in fact, I am now in pursuit of
this Japanese Popeye Catalufa that I saw on your article web page.
Where would you send me to order beautiful live caught Japanese
Catalufa specimens? -Maria from Columbus Ohio <Good question...
Maybe special order from Dr.s Foster & Smith or MarineDepot.com...
Bob Fenner>
From Catalufa Lover in Columbus, Maria 9/20/05 Hi Bob,
was reading your posts on Catalufas and I have some answers for you on
care that's proven to work. <Ah, thank you> First, for eye
degradation, browning around the eyes, flesh degradation, this is due
to germs, not parasites that accumulate in the water. This is cured by
a non-harmful antiseptic. I use Tee-Tree oil (100 % pure). In my 55
gal. tank. I generally splash 4-6 drops, every 2-3 days (as needed). It
is non harmful to my blue starfish and sea fan. The degradation will
clear up. As lazy as I am, the tee tree oil has cured many problems,
including fin splitting, wart growing, and even to some degree
Hexamita. No water changes necessary. If the fish begins breathing
hard, simply re-insert the media, and try again in the next couple days
with a lesser dosage. Hexamita, or hole in the head, I use Metrazol in
small dosages. 3 and 1/2 capsules every 3 days. Then I don't have
to do annoying water changes! Metrazol almost killed Sammy last time I
dosed with the prescribed amounts on the package! Sammy is doing
fabulous, and I will soon send a pic of my little aquatic family.
<Okay> As far as bubbles in eyes, Sammy never gets them. People
just don't understand how important it is to keep a fish happy. As
strange as it sounds, over working a tank, keeping it too clean has
negative effects. Let the tank go for a week, let nature take over. You
will experience other issues like germs, but those again are cured with
the Tee-tree. Also, tanks need real sunlight. Not just for vitamin D,
but for the mental health of the fishy. One more thing, feed Hikari
brand frozen fish food! Don't go to the store and feed perch,
grouper, none of that stuff! Oh, and for sick fish-I mean really sick
fish: Don't let the tank go dark at night! The fish's system
takes over and they expend a ton of energy in some kind of zombie mode
looking for food. The next morning, the fish is worn out! Sammy never
gets total darkness. I do half and half at night. He appears to chill
on the light side! How weird is that for a fish known to like darkness!
His habits are different in captivity! Treat the Catalufa as such!
<Good advice> Believe it or not, my fishy is happy in his
somewhat algae over grown tank at times. (though I don't let it go
for too long). I just let nature do her thing. There is always a
natural way to cure. She has and always will take care of her own!
-Maria from Columbus Ps, I've never had fish in my life, and Sammy
is doing wonderfully. Never experienced New Tank Syndrome. <Real
good. Thank you again. Will post, share. Bob Fenner>
Odd pic: Bob Hey, Bob <Antoine>
sorting some pics here for the book chapters before tossing to
Chris/Zo and I came across this odd one I took of a Bigeye. I
thought the odd reflection in the eye might have a name and make
for a NMARF caption. Dug around and think it does: the reflective
membrane "tapetum lucidum" in the back of the eye that
helps this fish see better in the dark (like dogs and cats, etc so
says the reference). In this case, my flash reflecting off of it
(pre-off camera flash pic by me <G>... onboard and reflected
in image...Arghhh) has illuminated a blood vessel in front of it in
the eye ball not see with the unassisted eye/view. Neat caption it
will make, so says Yoda Ant-
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Some photo ID help please? Hi Bob, it's been too
long... life certainly has been interesting. I've been laid
off my day job, the photo business is slow to pick up. A matter
of finding the right "niche" I suppose. But my library
now consists of somewhere around 600 high-quality images.
<Great> Hope all is well with you. <Yes my friend, thank
you> I'm hoping you can help me ID the fish in the picture
attached. I assume it's in the Squirrel/soldier family, but
can't seem to find a visual match. FAMA has decided to run
the photo on the cover of an upcoming issue, and I need to get
them the info for the caption. <Ah, congratulations>
I've checked the usual suspects- WetWebMedia, FishBase,
FishIndex, "Reef Fishes Volume 1" and many others with
no luck. So I thought I'd check with an expert. Any help you
have for me here would be, as always, greatly appreciated. Thank
you Travis <It is assuredly a Big Eye, family Priacanthidae,
either Pristigenys alta or P. serrula, please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bigeyes.htm
and FishBase again with these names... If you know if the
specimen were from the Atlantic or Pacific, you're in... Bob
Fenner>
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Pristigenys serrula Hi again, That is it. At the moment
it is about 5-6 inches and very slow and graceful, so I expect it's
space requirements are a bit less challenging than a Naso or a clown
tang.<To some extent> One very interesting thing is that
yesterday while acclimatizing whenever I went near to offer it some
food it played dead flopping around and then would become alive again
whenever I went away.<Well I have not kept one of these species of
fish, but have observed them in captivity and they have a somewhat
interesting personality. I would not be too concerned unless he stops
eating or shows sign of disease> Today it already accepted food
readily and I hope it will be very happy in my tank.<I hope so> I
guess it is a bit of a rare species as so little info is
available.<Indeed> Btw, its name is Fred, don't ask why,
Thanks again,<good luck with this rare find, IanB>
Massimo
Pristigenys serrula? (05/27/03) <Hi! Ananda here
doing some research this afternoon...> Hi there, I wonder if you can
provide me with some info as you so kindly did on other occasions.
<I'll give it a shot...> I recently acquired a splendid
specimen of Pristigenys serrula which eats well and is very amusing to
watch as it is extremely alert and intelligent. <Sounds like a
healthy fish.> Already on the second day of introduction in the tank
he could sense when I would be putting food in it by watching what was
going on outside and it would rise to the top of the surface. It is a
very graceful and slow moving fish which is a full 5' and lives
happily with a maroon clown and a regal tang. Can you tell me how big
will it get and where I can find some further info? Other searches on
the net have proved not very useful. <Well, my first stop is always
http://www.fishbase.org ... When
I looked for the Pristigenys genus, I found a number of fish, including
P. serrula. The Fishbase entry for that fish says it gets to be about a
foot long, so now I'm wondering if the fish length you mentioned
above is a typo, or if it's perhaps a completely different
fish!> Tips for basic husbandry? It is currently in a 120g reef tank
with the above fish. All parameters scrupulously in order. <Go ahead
and take a look at the listings on Fishbase. Those sometimes include
what the fish eats, based on stomach contents of captured specimens. If
you have a completely different fish, send us a photo and perhaps
someone can identify it.> Thanks Massimo UK <You're
welcome... Ananda>
Dead fish Hi David, <Hello my friend!> Thanks for
your input! I think when my friend found the Bigeye in August it was
stranded in a small depression in the sand with some water in it. The
tide was running out real fast at the time. Still makes sense though
that a healthy fish wouldn't be cruising around near the beach in
open water. The beach it was found on is all sand that stretches quite
far without any cover near the shoreline, and there are hungry stripers
cruising around too. By nature, Bigeyes should/would be hiding in some
rockwork or other structure to hunt and avoid predators. It seemed
healthy for awhile and even started to grow but perhaps the added
bioload (blenny and clownfish) allowed for unseen symptoms to start.
Didn't test for ammonia, figured after several weeks the tank was
well cycled. I did start the tank out with water and live rock from an
established tank. Anyway, the water continues to clear up and the other
two fish are still healthy. <My pleasure! Please remember that the
fishes in QT need to stay there a full month. You were very wise to QT
that Bigeye. Kudos to you for "protecting" your main tank.
David Dowless> Thanks again. Jason
Re: dead fish Dear WetWeb Crew, I was wondering if you
could provide some insight as to why my fish died. First, some
background info. The fish that died (sometime last night) was a Short
Bigeye, about the size of a quarter, that a friend found stranded on a
beach here in Maine back in August. <Do you really think a healthy
fish washed up on shore? I certainly hope you had this guy in a
quarantine tank> She gave it to me to care for. Everything was going
fine until about 3 weeks ago. The fish was in a 10 gal qt tank with a
hang-on type power filter with sponge for filtration and temperature
set at 76-77degrees. I added a Redlip blenny about 1 month ago and
small Clarkii clownfish about 2 weeks ago to the same tank with the
Bigeye. The Bigeye was feeding well and had started to grow. It would
take small pieces of shrimp, squid, or scallop from the end of my
finger. The problems began about 3 weeks ago, when the Bigeye would not
take the food from my finger. It was still eating, but not as much and
was more selective. This continued to the point where the fish hardly
ate anything and would look at the food but not even try to eat it. The
last time it ate anything was probably 5 days ago, and that was a
frozen Mysid shrimp. About 10 days ago, I noticed the tail fin was
cloudy and a small piece was missing from the bottom of the fin, like
it had been torn off. <Sounds like something in the tank thought
this tail would be tasty> It looked like some type of fin rot, and
turned bloody along the edge of the missing piece. <Fin rot sounds
like a strong possibility. If blood was present the tail probably was
not bit off> I added Formalin and that seemed to help over the next
few days. All this time the blenny and clown appear to be healthy and
are eating well. I also noticed that the water has been somewhat cloudy
for a few weeks now. <Either a bacteria bloom or ammonia. Have you
tested for ammonia?> I assume this is from a bacteria bloom although
I clean up all uneaten food from the bottom of the tank and siphon the
bottom of the tank when changing water. The tank has a bare bottom and
2 pieces of pvc pipe, a plastic coral and plant, and a small piece of
dead "live rock." I perform a 1 gal. water change every 6-7
days, and the cloudy water doesn't seem to clear up after the water
change. The pH is 8.2, nitrate/nitrogen 10mg/l, specific gravity 1.024,
and alkalinity 5.5 meq/l. A few nights ago I added a bag of carbon to
the power filter and hooked up a SeaClone skimmer to help. <Carbon
should help. I'm really glad to see that you are testing regularly.
Keep it up> Noticed last night the water wasn't as cloudy. The
Bigeye was a spectacular fish and I hated to lose it. Any ideas what
happened to this fish? <It's really hard to say...but a fish
that washed up on shore? It could be anything. There was obviously a
problem before it ever got to your tank> The blenny and clown will
remain in this tank for at least another month. <Yes. Sounds very
wise. I don't really notice anything that is amiss in your
procedures except accepting the Bigeye in the first place.>
Sincerely, <Glad to help! David Dowless> Jason
Popeyed Popeyes hi bob, it's me bob, from The
Aquarium. it's time for yet a bit more of your vast wisdom bank.
this question is regarding the fish commonly called "Popeye
Cataula", I think your database calls them squat Bigeyes. we have
3 of them with gas bubbles in the eyes. one is so severe it floats! do
you have any advice on how to alleviate this distressing malady?
<... Depends on the cause... likely improper decompression from
collection> I've tried using an insulin needle without much
success. I just read that they should never be taken out of the water!
why doesn't anybody tell people this stuff:<
<"They" don't know> again your site is info-packed
and I will be grateful for any help you can offer. thanks, bob <Keep
the lights low... and the system stable otherwise... the gas in the
eyes will evacuate over time/days hopefully. Bob Fenner>
Re: popeyed Popeyes I've seen this at least 2 other
times, and it usually proves fatal due to eye degradation. antibiotics
are useless, as I suspect the problem results from a pressure-related
condition. <Pressure from? Were these priacanthids just collected?
Are there fine air bubbles in the system that are involved here?>
please help me think of a new strategy to beat this, because these are
awesome animals! I'll dim the lights, hold my breath, and keep the
faith! thanks for your timely answer! thanks again, Bob <We need to
find the real cause of this exopthalmic condition... the eyes of these
and most fishes are highly vascular zed... they are indeed
"windows to the soul"... and to health... If this condition
has arisen spontaneously, with all specimens, I am inclined to suspect
dissolved gas as the prima facie origin... look about this system... is
air getting entrained and mixed with water somewhere? This is the
cause. Bob Fenner>
Re: popeyed Popeyes they are in 3 separate systems, 2
of which I have not ever seen. Our main system at the shop will
cavitate from time to time, a situation I have little control over.
<What? What do you mean... never seen systems? No control? Please
read over the following: http://WetWebMedia.com/bbldisease.htm on Gas
Bubble Disease/Emphysematosis... in this case in pond examples... but
the cause here is very likely the same... as I speculated in the last
interchange. You (singular/plural) need to fix the source of
cavitation... the Catalufas/Big-Eyes are more sensitive to dissolved
gas complaints, but this condition is mal-affecting your other
livestock... look about the pump (especially the volute/seals and
likely MIP fitting into it for air leaks... often able to be easily
detected by turning the pump off while watching the area (water will
squirt out)... The air and water mixing together is the cause of your
problem... fix it. Bob Fenner> The pressure I spoke of was a
speculation that perhaps they were caught deep, and brought up quickly.
Could a reduced specific gravity possibly help here? <No, at this
point more likely to kill the livestock. Bob Fenner>
Re: popeyed Popeyes I can check out our system, but the
other two fish were brought in by customers. As usual, good info.
Thanks <The other two Big-Eyes have the same condition? That is, gas
behind the eye? They've been in these other systems for how long?
Bob Fenner>
Re: popeyed Popeyes About a month on one, and 7 months
on the other, a tank I maintain from long distance, and have little
knowledge of the day to day. <Mmm, it's almost infinitesimally
possible that all three of these (Pristigenys alta?) would be suffering
from gas bubble disease in this scenario... I though they might all be
in the same system... even in a store setting... with centralized
filtration> In the 7 month tank, we have an Imperator angel that
would knock your sox off, a Blue Tang with no symptoms of lateral line
erosion (2 years), and a dogface puffer that makes me proud to be a
Dad, if I'm making sense. <I think so> The one month tank is
kept by the kind of people I would want to watch my stuff when I'm
gone. I spend 10 hours a day watching both fresh and marine animals do
what they do, and there are times it becomes engulfing. <I
understand> I'm sure, by seeing your reactions, you feel the
same way. Were you aware of the Eco-Vitality program? What happened to
them? <Heard of it, don't know> I spent my day on the road,
doing what fish guys do, and I'm still a little pissed that we
can't save every life we encounter. <Such is not possible my
friend. We try, but in the final synthesis can only save ourselves>
But ya gotta try, Bob. From one Bob to Another, Let's make it
happen!!!! Peace, my friend, Bob
<Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
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