New question about an old
issue, shark hlth., sys. 4/26/08
Crew,
<Tom>
Perhaps you remember (and perhaps you don't) me writing a ton about a pet Banded
Cat Shark that I owned, my display tank having ick with the shark, and my
treating the tank with Quinine Sulfate in an attempt to eradicate the ick with
the shark present. And you might remember how the Quinine was very effective in
ridding the tank of the ick, but that the shark began a steady decline over the
course of a month and a half and finally passing away after being unable to eat
(this after feeding wonderfully on shark formula and vitamins for 6 months, and
doing quite well.)
<I do recall>
Months have passed, and though I have added a few additions to the tank, we have
been nearly 4 months with absolutely no issues. But, my mind still wanders back
to that time and while I have no intentions or desire to have another shark, I
still think about what caused his demise.
I don't really run carbon continuously in my tank. It's 200 gallons with
probably 150lb of live rock, filtered by a Fluval FX5 (which I clean and rinse
sponges every two weeks) used mainly for water flow and biological filtration, a
wet/dry trickle filter, and a large hang on protein skimmer which is actually
rated for 180 gallons. I do a 25% water change every two weeks. But I do have a
small canister filter that I put carbon in and run on occasion. Obviously during
the treatment with the Quinine, I did not run the skimmer or the carbon. but
after the treatment duration I did appropriate water changes, turned on the
skimmer and put carbon back on the tank. Now, I wonder, how long is fresh carbon
actually viable?
<Mostly gets "used up" within minutes, hours... rapidly drops off past then>
Some information outlets say change it every couple of weeks. but some say the
most effective use of new carbon is in the first couple of days. being that this
canister filter isn't large to begin with, do you think that it was not
effective at removing all of this quinine, and the lingering presence of this
medicine caused the shark's demise?
<I do not>
Water parameters were the same then as now, salinity was 1.025, PH was 8.2, 0ppm
of both ammonia and nitrites, nitrates less than 10 - 20 ppm at all times.
Again, no problems to resolve now, but something that bugs me and as I think
about it often, I might have new questions about it.
The tank now houses a 5" Passer angel, a 6" Lunare wrasse, a 5" yellow tang, a
Maroon Clown, and a Snowflake Moray. All have been problem free nearly all of
2008.
Thanks so much.
Thomas Roach
<Sharks are not, by and large, little aquarium fish... and most tanks to them...
are little. BobF>
shark selection -04/11/08
hello.
i am currently thinking about getting a shark. i have decided on 3 different
sharks. then white spotted bamboo, gray bamboo, and my fave. the swell shark. so
my question is what size tank will the swell shark need? i would be getting a
240 most likely. would that be able to home a swell shark? i have read that is
enough for a white and gray bamboo. thanks for your help!
<240g is probably the bare minimum. There's lots of reading to do. Please start
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharks.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharkselfaqs.htm
Best,
Sara M.>Swell Shark Home
4/12/08
Hey just wondering which size will best suit a swell shark.
60x36x25 240g
72x30x25 240g
48x48x25 240g
280 - Wide
72 x 36 x 25 Tall
300 Wide
96 x 30 x 25 Tall
Obviously I wanna save money to the 240s are cheaper but when talking
for the shark should I just go with the 280/300 ? I want him to be
happy.
<None of these tanks are big enough for a swell shark (Cephaloscyllium
ventriosum), which reaches 3 feet in length. To be honest, if cost is a
consideration you should skip owning a shark.>
<Chris><<Really... no shark for you! BobF, the shark Nazi perhaps>>
Re: Swell Shark Housing 4/12/08
Read and heed:
http://wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
<Please use proper grammar and punctuation in future comments, as this
was most likely why it was deleted, although I can't comment for sure
since I did not delete it. See my comments below on your situation since
I believe it is of some value to our readers (and please note that I
took extra time to correct your grammar and punctuation.>
<Chris>
-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew XXXX <XXXX@XX.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:37 PM
To: crew@wetwebmedia.com
Subject: RE:
Why did it get deleted?
<See above?
I'm asking a question I thought you guys are supposed to help?
<We try to help, but this is all volunteer work.>
My question is, is a 240 gallon tank big enough for a swell shark or
not?
<Not for its full life span in my opinion/?
One of you said yes one said no.
<Opinions differ.>
And which of those dimensions would be best for my shark.
<In my opinion none of them.>
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:27:47 -0400
> Subject: re: RE:
> From: crew@wetwebmedia.com
> To: XXXX@XXXX.com
> CC:
> Deleted <
> From: Andrew XXXX <XXXX@XXXX.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: crew@wetwebmedia.com
> Subject: RE:
Chris one of your workers said 240 or ever 300 is not big enough for a
swell shark.
<I would agree with this.>
While I believe it was Sara said 240gallon would be the bare
minimum...so which is it????
<A 240 would work for a while, but not even close to the entire lifespan
of this shark, and good luck getting rid of an 18 inch shark when it
needs a good home. I believe this is what Sara was trying to say when
she said bare minimum.>
Also I had a list of different dimensions that I was wondering which
ones would be best. which I have posted below thanks.
60x36x25 240g
72x30x25 240g
48x48x25 240g
72x36x25 280g
96x36x25 300g
I obviously want to save money yet I want my shark to be happy so which
would be best?
<The shark may survive in any of these for a while but not thrive.
That’s all a bare minimum system will allow it to do. Also sharks are
very expensive to keep, it the price difference between a 240 and 300 is
enough to make a difference you should probably try keeping less
demanding animals.>
<Chris> |
Grey Bamboo Shark Egg, source
12/24/07
Hello,
<Hi there>
I've been reading through your FAQ's about sharks and have decided on a Grey
Bamboo Shark. Was wondering if you knew of a good online source for eggs???
Thanks,
Tom
<The usual good companies... Dr.s Foster and Smith, the Marine Center... Bob
Fenner>
Shark pond... sys., and stock
sel., reading – 10/30/2007
Hello,
<Hi there>
Long time reader, 1st time I've written. Thanks in advance for your time /
advice.
<Welcome>
I've argued, reasoned and walked away from people who wanted me to help them
setup a 200 gallon shark tank, but for the first time have a customer that
presents a possibility that just might work. I have a great deal of reef and
FOWLR experience but I've never owned, sold, or cared for a shark.
The pond was to have been for Koi, now he is thinking saltwater and sharks /
rays. The system will be just under 1600 gallons, 24 ft long, 3.5 ft wide and
2.5 ft deep. It is best described as a cement "tray" which will be tiled on the
sides and have a substrate of our choosing on the bottom.
This "pond" will be indoors, we could include a very large chiller, but I would
rather stick with animals that will do well in the area of 75 degrees.
<There are many>
Filtration will be a skimmer, something big, though we will have some kind of
height limit. Something like this:
http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=21017
<http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=21017&cat=646&pag
e=1> &cat=646&page=1 or bigger / better if possible.
<Okay... though I would write RK2, EuroReef... look into something "larger" in
terms of function here>
Everything I read simply suggests a "large" tank and at least 3 * the animals
length. I would like to keep everyone as small as possible.
Under 30, maybe 36 inches have a bit of variety in the animals and stick with
hardy, easy inhabitants. I am worried about the width of the pond and larger
fish being able to make the turn.
What combo of sharks, rays, eels and anything else would you suggest?
<Epaulettes, Bamboos... all posted... Here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/index.htm
The second tray... FAQs files on Shark Sel., Ray Sel.... Bob Fenner>
Thanks again!
Phil Wind
Reef eScape
Brown Banded Bamboo Shark Adoption 7/17/07
Dear WWM Crew,
<Hello>
I have had a brown banded bamboo shark for about 2 years now (hatched him
myself). He is at, about 15 inches and is in a 125 gallon tank. A couple weeks
ago he stopped eating but I emailed you guys and after changing his diet and
lowering the nitrates, I got him to eat again. <Good> I have an empty 75 gallon
tank that I'm going to turn into a reef tank but I cannot afford to have two
tanks running at the same time so I was going to sell my 125 and bring most of
my fish back where I bought them, but I would not like to do that with my shark
unless I have no other options. <If they will take it most likely your only
option.> I think I read somewhere on your web sight that you are a public
aquarium and I was wondering if I could donate my shark to it. <Unfortunately
not, Bob is working on something in Hawaii, but it is just in its preliminary
stages.> I live in Florida but could find a way to get it to San Francisco
(correct me if that's not the right place). Please email me back when you get
the chance.
Thank You,
Brendan Crosby
<Your best bet here is either the LFS or posting on the major aquarium forums
and see if an individual is interested.>
<Chris>
Coral Catshark and Soapfish
6/24/07
Hi again Crew!
<Katie>
I have been hearing some mixed information when it comes to this topic.
Recently I purchased a sixline Soapfish, a fish I have loved for a long time. I
was aware that they produced a toxin in their mucus coating but I was under the
impression that it was a defense mechanism, so of like with cowfish. How risky
is it to keep these guys with other tankmates?
<Mmm, not much... in a "large-enough", well-maintained system, minimal>
Is it fairly rare to have them kill a tank full?
<Yes... would have to be small, die, dissolve unseen...>
He is currently in a 55 gallon but will make a move to a 150 gallon within the
next month or so.
<Good>
Also, I plan on keeping a coral CatShark in the 150 gallon (until it outgrows
it). I have heard that coral catsharks mainly eat crustaceans and will not
bother most fish, but I have also been reading lately that its not uncommon for
them to attack tankmates while feeding....?
<Mmm, yes, at feeding times at times... or most anything... bite rocks, what
have you in a sort of "frenzy">
Does this mean its probably not wise to keep a coral catshark and a sixline
Soapfish in the same tank, because of the toxins in the soapfish's skin?
Thanks in advance for the help!
-Katie
<Not likely... most Grammistids are rather shy, secretive... and seem to be
aware of such predation. I give you good odds of not having problems here... and
if the G. sexlineatus should be consumed in this 150, I doubt if this would
created a toxic situation. Bob Fenner>
Public Aquarium Fish, Collecting, moving
sharks, rays 5/30/07
I am currently building a public aquarium in Chiang Mai,
<Oh! Was just (back) there a few months ago... Has this town grown!>
Thailand with a main salt water tank of 4,000 cubic meters. Do you know of any
reliable, humane and responsible suppliers of sharks and rays which it is
intended to display here.
<Mmm, quite a few... I would contact the Director and Curator at the new Bangkok
Aquarium for their help here>
The aquarium is part of Chiang Mai zoo and I am afraid that it may end up in a
call going out to local fishermen to supply part of their catch.
<Mmm... it is NOT easy to transport cartilaginous fishes caught this way
generally... I would also contact the folks at Monterey Bay Aquarium for help
here re techniques, gear...>
Although they can catch them they cannot transport them nor be guaranteed to
behave in a responsible manner.
<Bingo... YOU need to have a boat near, or catch these fishes yourself... WITH
the tank, pumps for recirculating water through the fishes mouths... likely
anesthetic (MS-222...)... and a ready-to-go live-hauling truck to move all to
your town... stat!>
Unfortunately, I know a lot about acrylic, life support systems and theming but
not much about fish (at least commercially).
<Delegate my friend... Hire, find some folks with experience, or travel, send
someone to visit other institutions re these areas of expertise. Bob Fenner>
Overseas Purchasing of Marine Sharks 4/3/07
Hello all and thank you in advance. I have a 18,000 gallon shark pool and
am considering purchasing some black tip reef sharks from an overseas
supplier. I am writing to inquire if this would be wise for an individual to
do. Is there any type of directory or method to verify the legitimacy of
wholesale suppliers out side of the US?
<Unfortunately no... there is not such a list of "legitimate players"... and/or
not... And indeed there are outright crooks in our trade... Internationally,
including within the U.S.... FWIW (which is a great deal here), I STRONGLY
encourage you to deal with/through a U.S. based wholesaler... Likely Quality
Marine or Sea Dwelling Creatures, Underwater World on the west coast... Or All
Seas in L.A. or Miami... Perhaps best done with the cooperation of a LFS you're
friendly with... for a nominal pass-through fee... Your "net landed cost" for
these Carcharhinids will very likely be less... perhaps very much so... due to
the economies of scale of shipping, CITEs, Customs, moving boxes about... There
is much we might discuss here... but suffice it for here/now, that I encourage
you to ask you local fish store re this possibility, and have them in turn
contact one of the "A" players listed above. All will have to be arranged to
have you notified re their ETA, close pick-up, processing locally. Bob Fenner>
Matt
Ongoing Shark Ignorance, Apathy... and the cheese which is so much of the
BBs... with an apology to cheese - 03/02/07
Please check out this link and tell me what you think? I for ne am truly
>disgusted and when i called was treated like a total dumb a$$ and was even
>made fun of for being concerned! Spread the word and help us help these > poor
>sharks!
><Received no link on this end, what are you referring to? Adam J.>
SORRY MUST HAVE FORGOT TO PASTE IT!
<That's okay but don't shout.>
HERE IT GOES THOUGH:
<Got it.>
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1015485&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS
<Tis unfortunate, though not uncommon, fight this ignorance with knowledge my
friend. Adam J.>
I Want A Dwarf Lantern Shark (Don't Get Your Hopes Up) - 02/15/07
Hi Bob,
<<Hello Eddie...Eric here>>
My name is Edward Andrews and I'm interested in getting a dwarf shark for my
living room. I did some research on them and saw that they're only about
the size of my hand.
<<Hmm, I can only imagine you are referring to the Dwarf Lantern Shark
(Etmopterus perryi)...or possibly the Spined Pygmy Shark (Squaliolus
laticaudus>>
I live in central Florida so it may be easier to find one living down here.
<<From what I can determine about these sharks, I don't think it likely you
will be able to obtain one "wherever" you are located>>
What would I need to do to make sure it lives the happiest of lives?
<<Ah yes, the sixty-four-thousand-dollar question...(sigh)>>
I realize that they're the smallest sharks and that's what I want. I don’t
need a nurse shark or any of the bigger species.
<<Indeed>>
I just want a good fish. Please send me any info u have in making this
happen. Thanks.
Eddie
<<Honestly Eddie, I don't think pursuing this shark for aquarium keeping is
a practical exercise. These sharks are bottom dwellers found only in very
deep waters (more than 600 feet)...couple this with their small size and low
fecundity it's likely they don't often show up as by-catch by the commercial
fisheries, and almost certainly never as "aquarium" specimens...and as such,
any information on husbandry will be non-existent. Regards, EricR>>
Re: I Want A Dwarf Lantern Shark (Don't Get Your Hopes Up) - 02/15/07
Hey thank you so much for your help.
<<Quite welcome>>
I'm kind of new to this, however I want to get a shark for a pet.
<<Mmm, not the best choice to cut your saltwater-fish-keeping teeth upon>>
One that won't get to big, however I do have a lot of space.
<<"a lot" is a very subjective value…hopefully, several hundred gallons>>
I also heard nurse sharks would be good pets.
<<You heard wrong my friend...get much too large for home aquaria. Might I
suggest before you "jump in" that you spend some time reading and
researching shark systems/aquarium species/husbandry/et al...you and your
future pets both will be much happier for it. If sharks are to be your
thing, get a copy of the book 'Aquarium Sharks and Rays' by Scott
Michael. And in the meantime there is much info re on our site...do start
reading here, and be sure to follow/read among the associated links in blue
at the tops of the pages:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharks.htm
Regards, Eric Russell>>
CA leopard sharks 1/5/07
Mr. Fenner,
I'm not sure how often you are asked about Leopard sharks,
<Too often my friend... almost never are these animals kept in appropriate
circumstances by hobbyists>
or the areas your readers frequent, but someone had forwarded me a link to your
page, and I saw a few articles about leopard sharks. I'd be happy to answer any
questions regarding the legality of different things kept as pets in California.
<Would you mind us... am inferring this here... positing your email address?>
Specifically, fish that are native to California, although I could attempt to
help if there was a question about exotics, as we do restrict some species.
<Thank you>
I do not want my email address made public/posted, however you may contact me if
you have any questions.
<.... what? By smoke signals?>
Leopard sharks must be 36 inches in total length to possess in California,
regardless of their source.
<Wow, I was unaware of this... is this a new advent? The trade sells these at
much smaller sizes... perhaps they're originating outside the State>>
The only exception is if someone can show that they have had it as a pet since
1994, and received written permission from the Department to keep it. Thank
you, LT
Hartman
<Again, thank you for this input. If there is a further referent, some place to
send folks to re... Please send this address, URL along. Bob Fenner>
Re: CA leopard sharks 1/5/07
Mr Fenner,
If persons have questions or want more information they can go to the
Department's website at www.dfg.ca.gov
Most of the information they would be seeking would be under the Marine
Resources area.
<Thank you for this>
They can also email the Department at askmarine@dfg.ca.gov Feel free to make
that email address available to your readers.
<Will do so>
As for the regulations on leopard sharks, the size limit was established in
1994/95. The illegal trade of undersize leopard sharks is a Black market of
sorts,
<Ahhh! As you will realize, I am not a fan of keeping Triakis, most any other
Selachians in home-size systems... They don't live in such very long or well>
and resulted in numerous arrests last year by the Department of Fish and Game
and NOAA. There is no exception to the size limit, even if the sharks are
brought in from Mexico of Portland.
<Really? Good to know>
Possession of a leopard shark under 36 inches in California is a Misdemeanor,
punishable by a fine of $1,000 and or 6 months in jail. The section is Fish and
Game Code 8388.5, available on our website. Hopefully this will help keep some
of them out of those little tanks. Thanks, and feel free to contact me our
askmarine@dfg.ca.gov if you have any questions, LT
Hartman
<Again, thank you for your efforts. Bob Fenner>
Shark sel. Question 11/21/06
Bob,
I am going to be having a custom 325 gallon aquarium built. It is going
to be a flat back hexagon shape with the dimensions 84"x24"x10"x64" at a 30"
height. Besides the Brown Banded Bamboo shark are there any other species that
tend to be more active
<Mmmm>
I could house in this size tank ?
Thanks,
Brenden Hewko
<Yep. Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/sharkselfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Shark Question/s... sel., health, fdg., sys. 11/14/06
Hey Bob,
I am located in Toronto, Canada and was browsing your website and was
fascinated by all the useful information I found. For the past 1 and a half
months I have been doing a lot of research on the Brown Banded Bamboo sharks. I
have read and gone threw
<through>
multiple websites, joined multiple forums, and bought many books including Scott
Michaels " Aquarium Sharks and Rays" which was very informative. I will be
purchasing a 250-300 gallon aquarium soon which will be the home for 2 Brown
Banded Bamboo sharks. It will be a flat back hexagon shape with the dimensions
84x24x10x64 with a 30" height. Do these dimensions sound good for Brown Banded
Bamboo sharks?
<For a short while, for small specimens>
For feeding would you recommend live food?
<No... fresh/or defrosted meaty foods>
Or frozen food. Most people I have talked to recommended frozen would, on a
feeding stick to ensure I give both an equal share.
But some say its easier to get them acclimated with live food?
<Unnecessary>
Is this correct or no? As well when I first introduce them into the aquarium how
do I go about acclimating them?
<See WWM re... marine fishes period>
When I purchase them they will either be in eggs still or newly hatched. Should
I leave them in the bags and place those bags in the aquarium like most fish are
acclimated. Or should I place them in bucket with the same water as in the
aquarium and then half of the water from the bag they came in?
<This latter>
Please let me know as I want to offer these sharks the best living conditions I
possible can, and want to make the transition from the store to my aquarium as
stress free as possible. I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks,
Brenden Hewko
<Will need more room in time. Bob Fenner>
Active Sharks for a 1250? – 10/25/06
Greetings WWM crew.
<<Hello James>>
I'm having a custom made shark tank built for a client. The tank will be
oval, 8' long, 6' wide, and 3.5' high.
<<Neat!>>
My client wants an active swimming shark, so bamboos are out.
<<Mmm, but therein lies the problem. “Active” sharks require much more
space/care than this tank can provide; not for a mature animal...and your
client shouldn’t consider keeping anything that can’t be cared for long-term
>>
I've been looking into spiny dogfish, smooth-hounds, and as of tonight
Bonnetheads, but I have a few questions that I haven't been able to find
answers to yet.
<<Temperate to sub-tropical sharks, will probably require a chilled
system...and even the smallest will likely grow to about 4-feet>>
Firstly, which shark do you think would have the best long-term success in
this tank, and what numbers (single, pair, three)?
<<Um, not what you want to hear but...two, maybe three Bamboo or Coral
Catsharks>>
Lighting - I was thinking of three 150 watt metal halide pendants. Do you
think they would be a good choice, or too bright?
<<Should be fine if they can be raised as bit (will provide nice “glimmer
lines”) and rockscaping is such the sharks can reach/rest in shadow if they
wish>>
On a setup like this, are a UV sterilizer and ozonizer necessary components,
or a waste?
<<Both can be of benefit if sized/utilized properly>>
Water flow - Being an oval tank, should I try to create a circular current,
or would sharks prefer a more reef like/random water flow?
<<I think a “circular” current would work well...especially if it can be
periodically reduced/reversed (six-hour durations)>>
I was planning on using either 3600 or 2500 GPH pumps to create two
closed-loop systems, and I can run them through a wave maker if needed.
<<Sounds good...do have a look at “eductors” (
http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/listings.categories/ssid/460)
for multiplying/spreading flow>>
The tank will be filtered with a very large wet/dry filter and protein
skimmer.
<<Might I suggest a large fluidized-bed filter in place of/in addition too
the wet/dry as these are able to react very quickly to shifting bio-loads
associated with these big, messy feeders>>
Lastly, (for now) I've read on here several times about adding vitamins to
their food, and have followed links you've given to where the answers are
supposed to be, but I have yet to be able to find what kind of vitamins they
should be given, or the amount.
<<Mazuri ™ Shark and Ray tabs (http://
www.mazuri.com/Home.asp?Products=2&Opening=2)
>>
Thanks in advance for your help.
<<Happy to assist. Eric Russell>>
Regards,
James Foley
Thunder Bay Aquascapes
www.tbaquascapes.com
Re: Active Sharks for a 1250? – 10/30/06
Thanks for the reply Eric.
<<Quite welcome James>>
I realize bamboos are the best bet, but these (spiny dogfish, smooth-hound, and
Bonnethead) are about the best compromise I can come up with (unless you know of
a <3' active shark?) to prevent a Blacktip reef shark from going into the
tank. Other stores in town would gladly bring in a Blacktip just for the
profit.
<<Then educate your client otherwise. As important as size is in this 8’ x 6’
oval display, the fact your client wants an “active” shark compounds the
problem. Active sharks require MUCH more room than bottom-dwelling or
“sedentary” sharks of the same size. I just don’t feel this tank is large
enough to house an “active” species, and that doing so will only result in a
greatly foreshortened lifespan>>
I'm hoping the shape and water flow will enable the shark to keep a fairly
normal swimming routine (would a stronger current help with this?).
<<The oval shape is definitely a bonus, and water flow should be about 2x the
tank volume or so>>
I did read on your site about a 15' cylinder tank with strong flow that had a
Blacktip I believe, that allowed it to swim fairly comfortably.
<<Mmm, but the diameter of the cylinder is nearly twice the length of the
long-side on your system...big difference>>
It was also mentioned on here that Bonnetheads often max out at around 3' in an
aquarium, which will hopefully be the case. I intend to try to get in a male to
keep it even smaller.
<<Though this species may well be the best choice of the three mentioned, the
issue here is the “activeness” of the shark in this system. Even at three-feet,
an active species is going to prove “too big” I think>>
I've taken a look at the eductors, and will probably try them out. I'll also
look into a fluidized filter. Any recommendations on manufacturers for them?
<<Hmm...finding one “large enough” may prove difficult. Look at the Pentair
Rainbow Lifegard FB-900. The design of this filter should allow several to be
easily plumbed in tandem to create a filter large enough to support the system>>
Another question I have is regarding substrate. I prefer deep sand beds for my
reef aquariums, but am unsure of which way to go on a shark tank. Deep or
shallow?
<<Many sharks are diggers, a shallow substrate of crushed coral (1mm-3mm) may be
better than a DSB in the display. Perhaps you can locate a DSB of sugar-fine
aragonite in a separate vessel plumbed to the system?>>
Regards,
James Foley
Thunder Bay Aquascapes
www.tbaquascapes.com
<<Cheers, Eric Russell>>
Black tip Reef Shark 10/16/06
Hi. How long could I keep a Black tip Reef Shark in a 265 gallon aquarium
that measures 7ft L x 2ft W x 2ft H? Thanks
<For the 4 to 6 week quarantine period, and that’s about it.>
<Chris>
Shark Purchase 10/12/06
Thanks for such a quick reply! Do you know where I could purchase one of these
elasmobranchs.
Thanks,
Chad
<Most likely need to be special ordered from LFS as they are fairly rare in the
trade. I encourage you to also think twice about keeping these creatures unless
you are very experienced with marine fish.>
<Chris>
Suitable Shark(s) for the Home Aquarium? 10/10/2006
Hello again. I have been doing research on the Speckled Epaulette and the
Freycinet's Epaulette Sharks and have found that they reach a maximum length
slightly smaller than the other choices of sharks that I have questioned
(besides the catsharks). What size tank would you recommend for these shark
species and where could I buy them (if the right specimen for a tank of this
capacity)?
Many thanks,
<Chad, I have no direct experience in this realm, but have a very high regard
for Mr. Scott W. Michael - do see here for more information:
http://www.reeftectonics.com/shark_keeping.htm
Chad
<Jorie>
Suitable Shark(s) for the Home Aquarium? Follow-up - 10/10/06
I have purchased Scott W. Michael's book on Aquarium: Sharks and Rays and have
found it quite informative. That is where I receive all of my knowledge on
sharks , and also , I have found that this website is just as informative as the
book! My question is what size aquarium could I comfortably contain one of the
mentioned sharks.
Thanks,
Chad
<Most reputable info. says *at least* 250 gal. Please also see here for more
info:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharkslvgrm.htm
Jorie>
Shark Tank...How Many? How Big? – 10/09/06
Eric,
<<Chad>>
What shark species could I keep in a 265 gallon tank? Possibly a few Cat Shark
species?
<<Mmm, not a “few” but possibly a single specimen of one of the smaller
species...and then probably not long-term. Atelomycterus marmoratus, the
Coral Cat Shark is likely your best option here (a true tropical species),
obtain as a juvenile or better yet as a developing egg case>>
And also, what size tank could I keep an adult Brownbanded Bamboo Shark or an
adult Epaulette Shark?
<<Hmm...ideally, one in which the smallest dimension (length/width) is at least
three-times the adult length of the shark>>
Thanks,
Chad
<<Regards, EricR>>
Re: SHARK QUESTIONS!! Sys., Heterodontids 10/2/06
Ah yes. Thanks! I have another question though!! I have a powerhead on
this system to add a little movement. Should i remove it?
<Possibly>
Also I have a titanium ground probe to remove stray voltage from my aquarium
but before I added it on i tried it on a tank with no fish (the tank am
cycling) and when i touched the water it sort or gave me a little feeling of
electricity!!
<What? I would have this water/system tested... Make sure all electrified
gear goes through a GFCI.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/gfcimarines.htm>
Is that supposed to happen or am i not supposed to be able to feel it?
<Assuredly not... Deadly dangerous>
I removed it immediately and havent used it since then!! would this harm my
shark or help it?
<Harm>
i don't want to add any voltage or electricity to my water for good reason
and concern of my beautiful prized shark!! Also I have a friend who is
interested in a Port Jackson! He has a very large tank and can house it!!
What information or tips can you give me so I can correctly advise him?
Thanks again!!
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/portjacksons.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Info about the Atlantic Sharpnose Shark 9/19/06
The Atlantic Sharpnose Shark (Rhizoprionodon terraenovae) is
my dream shark that I would like to keep - if I ever had to money &
space to do so).
<Here on fishbase:
http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=905&genusname=Rhizoprionodon&speciesname=terraenovae>
The Atlantic Sharpnose is a small coastal requiem shark, that is
native year round) to the southeastern (From the Carolinas to
Florida) & entire gulf coast of the U.S. And has been found in New
England waters during the summer months.
It also grows to between 3-4 ft. And is a highly active species.
I've also heard that it adapts fairly well to captivity (similar
to a Blacktip reef) at least according to the people I talked
emailed) who have kept both sharks. They also say that it's about as
hardy as a Blacktip reef. A few keepers - even go as far as to say
that it's a better alternative to the Blacktip reef - due to it's
smaller adult size.
Any thoughts?
<Is better than C. melanopterus... though still has about the
same space, environmental needs>
While I done some research on this shark - I still have a few
questions.
Due to it home range I would tend to classify it as a warm water
shark. Because I know from personal experience that this shark
appears to very common off the NC & SC coasts) From early May - mid
September when the water temps are between 75-84F.
So do you think that it fair to call it a warm water shark, or
that just wishful thinking on my part?
<I'd say tropical to sub-tropical... can live in warm water for
sure>
The confusing part sort of), comes from when I was talking to an
online dealer who cares sharks) -just to inquire (no actual plans to
buy) about this shark. I emailed him, because I wanted to get a feel
of this guy as I was considering buying other more "aquarium
friendly" sharks - like catsharks, bamboos or horns.
Here's a few things that he told me about the sharpnose.
- They required water temps of less than 76F.
<Interesting. The water is assuredly warmer in this fish's
distribution range... though lower captive temperature is advised
certainly... to allow for enhanced gas solubility, depressed
metabolism>
- They are only as hardy as bonnetheads.
<Agreed>
- That they require a pool at least 16ft in diameter(4500-6000
gallons) - which I consider a good idea.
<Me too>
- They should be watched daily - since they don't adapt to
captivity well.
<Okay>
Also I got the feeling he was down playing the sharpnose, because
he wanted to sale me a couple of smooth hounds.
<Mmm, doubtful... The industry is made up (as is the larger human
population) of makers, takers and fakers... these last two
categories are not folks who last long... I suspect this dealer is
"the real thing"... a maker. As am I>
Saying things like talking about the smooth hounds) -
-they are warm water sharks,
-require smaller tanks,
-and get to be about the same size,
-and a hardier shark.
What's your thoughts on this.
<They are, I agree. Bob Fenner>
More on Sharks - 09/14/06
Hello Eric!
<<Hi Chad!>>
Chad again asking a few questions for a friend (doesn't have
internet).
<<Uh-huh (just kidding matey <grin>)>>
His name is Nathan, I just recently got him interested in keeping
one of the many beautiful Elasmobranchs.
<<Indeed>>
I showed him pictures of the Brownbanded Bamboo, Epaulette, Cat
sharks, etc. But he saw a picture of a Bonnethead and a Blacktip
Reef Shark.
<<Uh-oh...(sigh)>>
He wanted me to ask you guys if he could keep a Bonnethead or a
Blacktip Reef Shark in a 1000 - 1500 gallon system who's dimensions
are 12ft L x 4ft W x 3ft H?
<<Mmm, no...These are heavier, more active and much larger
sharks...the Bonnethead grows to more than 5', and the Blacktip to
more than 7'...would need a tank more than twice this size for
either, in my opinion>>
I told him that he probably couldn't keep them in there for more
than about 8 - 12 months or so, but he wanted to know exactly how
long and he wanted to hear that from experts, so I asked you guys.
<<Well...I'm hardly an expert, but I have been around the block (or
maybe around the bend!). I don't recommend keeping these sharks at
all unless they are "started" in a system suitable to hold them at
maturity. Often the "bigger tank down the line" never
materializes...and rarely if ever can you just "bag up" the shark
and take it to your local public aquarium or zoo, due either to
local protocol or just the fact that they can't handle/don't have
the facilities for the addition. There's also the matter of
developmental retardation from keeping and “growing” an animal under
improper conditions and/or in "too small" an environment. I can't
point you to any studies, but my colleagues and I deal with this on
a daily basis. Mostly in the form of health and behavior issues
associated with folks keeping "Tangs" in too small/crowded
systems..."but only until they get too big for the tank" or "only
until they can get a bigger tank"...get the picture? Few hobbyists
have the money/time/capacity for keeping these magnificent
creatures...maybe you (and your friend) are the exception, just be
sure to match the species to the environment...and vise versa>>
Thanks for your help,
Chad
<<Happy to share my opinions. Eric Russell>>
Which Shark(s) for a 1,200 Gallon System? - 09/08/06
Hello!
<<Hey Chad!>>
My name is Chad and I find your website ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!
<<Many thanks>>
I just recently purchased Scott W. Michael's book on "Aquarium Sharks and
Rays" and it is great!
<<Indeed>>
I was wondering what kind of shark I could keep in a 1,200
gallon aquarium with rounded corners?
<<Well Chad, admittedly sharks are not my forte, but even at 1,200 gallons
you're still best off keeping the smaller sharks commonly known as "Cat"
sharks and "Bamboo" sharks. A trio would make an
interesting display here I
think>>
I will look forward to talking to you guys in the future.
Thank you very much,
Chad
<<Be chatting, EricR>>
Re: Which Shark(s) for a 1,200 Gallon System? - 09/10/06
Thank you for the quick reply!
<<Quite welcome>>
I have read Scott's book up to "A Catalog of Sharks and Rays" so far and it
says that I could house a Brown Smooth-hound Shark comfortably in a 1,200
gallon.
<<Mmm, possibly yes. Attains a maximum length of about 45" which "might" be
fine depending on the dimensions of your system, but I also believe this is
a "cool water" species. Are you prepared to provide water cooling for such
a large system?>>
I am not trying to argue with you (please don't think that!)
<<No worries mate...we encourage hobbyists to research/think on their own>>
but the ONLY reason I do not want to keep a Cat, Bamboo, or Epaulette shark
is the fact that they lay or "walk" on the
substrate all day and I love to see them swimming around.
<<I see>>
I wish I didn't think so but I just cannot help it. But, if I did get a
Brown-banded Bamboo Shark, could I turn the light off during the day and
turn the light on at night so I could watch them swim around, or would that
be a bad thing to do?
<<Not "bad" at all. It is quite OK to set the lighting schedule to suit
you/your schedule. Just be sure to put the lights on timers so a regular
routine is established>>
P.S. A trio would be awesome!!!
Thank you Eric,
Chad
<<Quite welcome my friend. Eric Russell>>
Re: Which Shark(s) for a 1,200 Gallon System? 9/11/06
Just so you know, the dimensions of the tank are going to be
12ft L x 4ft W x 2.5ft H. I would be prepared to provide the proper
needs for any shark that I get!!!
<<Ah good...I think a few Cat, Bamboo, or Epaulette sharks would all
be fine inhabitants...or a single Brown Smooth-hound if you
decide. EricR>>
Thank you,
Chad
Re: Which Shark(s) for a 1,200 Gallon System? - 09/12/06
Just one final question. How much does a Brown-banded Bamboo
Shark swim around at night? Just as much as an active shark would
during the day maybe?
<<Hmm, don't rightly know...would think much of their "hunting"
would be done at night. Take a look here (http://whozoo.org/Anlife2001/callmatt/CMM_Bandedcatshark2_JES.html)
for some more info on these sharks>>
Hope I didn't take up too much of your time, I know you’re busy with
all of the questions that you guys....and girls receive!
<<Mmm, and even more so when the ‘Bobster’ is away. But no worries
my friend...is what we do>>
Thank you very, very much,
Chad
<<You're very much welcome. EricR>>
Sharks, sel. 9/2/06
Hello crew! This is Chad Howell again. I was writing to say I'm sorry about
the last time we talked , I don't think we got off on the right foot,
SORRY!!!!!! Anyway , I am planning on getting a 280-300 gallon saltwater
aquarium. I am extremely fascinated by sharks and was planning on getting one ,
but I'm not exactly sure what kind of shark to get.
<Then keep investigating>
I was thinking maybe a Great White.....NOT REALLY!!!! Thought I would try to be
funny.
ANYWAY , I'm seriously thinking about a Brownbanded Bamboo Shark or a Hooded
Epaulette Shark. Would these sharks be able to live there entire lives in this
tank?
<Depends... on the shape of the tank of this gallonage...>
Would you recommend me put a pair of whatever shark I choose in the tank so they
can mate?
<Is this what you intend?>
P.S. Sorry so many questions! Hope I didn't take up too much of your time!!
P.S.S. Hope we can become friends!
Thanks ,
Chad Howell
<Ignorance is acceptable, rudeness not... If you would like our help, respect
yourself, our services. Bob Fenner>
Re: shark sel - 09/03/06
No , I didn't mean that I was going to make them mate, I was just asking if
that is what they recommend.
<"If" you intend to try them... can be placed as separate sexes...>
The shape of this tank is probably going to be rectangular but I have heard that
they like circular or oval shaped best.
Is this true?
Chad Howell
<Yes. BobF>
Bonnethead sharks... sys., sel., 8/11/06
Hi there I just found out about the bonnetheads and so far they seem okay as
pets (size) but I need some more info on them. First of all what is the minimum
size for their tank?
<About three times their adult length, twice in width...>
Also, what is an average price for them?
<A few hundred dollars>
And last of all where could I get them for
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharkselfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Leopard Shark, "Professionals", Morality - 06/14/2006
Hello, I visit your site from time to time but have never posted. At the
moment I am in Las Vegas for a business trip and noticed that there was a
Leopard shark swimming around in the big tropical tank behind the check in desk
at the Mirage hotel.
<Arrrrrgh....>
There were a bunch of tangs, puffers, the usual tropical home aquarium fish. My
question is, why would they have a cold water specimen in warmer waters if the
care takers are suppose to be pro's at this?
<A very, very good question, my friend.... and one to which I have no happy
answer.> <<I do... Just as you get "fair odds" in gambling there, this Triakis
is getting "fair odds" at living a long, healthy life. Id est, none. RMF>>
Is it possible for the shark to be fine and not have a problem living like this
<Not long-term.>
or will it die because of the conditions?
<Ultimately, yes. This animal, like all too many others, should be left to the
oceans and large public aquaria that can properly house them.>
Thanks, -Mike
<Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
To Shark or not to shark? 5/11/06
Howdy Crew!
<What’s up Jeff?>
Was wondering what species to keep in a 220 gallon tank.
<Of shark I would personally keep none…just because my personal belief is that
shark quarters should be pond size or they should be left in the ocean, however
there are a few which people commonly keep in tanks of this size.>
If I did a shark, I would like it to be a brown banded bamboo shark.
<Potential size of this animal is 40”+ so beware of that….may/will outgrow
quarters.>
And I would just have that one shark with possibly one ray (my LFS suggested I
put a shark with a ray for the 220 gal.)
<No tank is too small.>
But I also like other fish such as triggers,
<Not good to mix with sharks, will/can pick on sharks.>
tangs, groupers, etc.
<This is okay…but a heavy bio-load…messy, messy, messy.>
I know it to be wise not to keep fish with sharks.
<Well benthic sharks like the bamboo are actually not much of a threat to larger
healthy fish, they couldn’t catch them if they wanted too.>
So it's either one or the other: shark tank or fish only tank with the fish only
tank hosting a Clown Trigger, Picasso Trigger, Blonde Naso Tang, Brown Powder
Tang, Stars and stripes puffer, ghost ribbon eel.
<I would say go for the fish only for the best long-term display but pick one
trigger or the other and drop the ribbon eel from the list completely…these are
to be left in the ocean….trust me it WILL perish in captivity, especially with
the aggressive tank-mates you have mentioned.>
Of course not all of them but the choices I would like to have. Anyway, what
would be the best tank to have, shark/ray tank or fish only tank?
<The fish only my friend, without a doubt.>
Thanks
<Sure.>
Jeff
<Adam Jackson.>
Looking for a N.E. Atlantic dogfish - 03/26/2006
Bob,
<Craig>
I am struggling to obtain a lesser spotted dogfish for my native marine
aquarium. any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
<Is sold in the trade occasionally... in Western Europe... see fishbase.org:
http://fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=845&genusname=Scyliorhinus&speciesname=canicula
re distribution. Have not seen sold in the U.S.... I see from your email address
suffix that you are from the U.K.; you should try the larger stockists about or
try contacting Tropical Marine Centre re>
I have 4 weeks to do so, because my 3rd year dissertation is 'olfactory
behaviour of Scyliorhinus canicula'
thanks
Craig
<Bob Fenner>
Overseas Suppliers of Sharks 3/24/06
Hello all and thank you for taking time to help those who so need it. I am
in the process of acquiring marine sharks for my large (35000 gallon) shark
lagoon and was contacted by several overseas collectors. My question is if
there is any way to verify that these companies are legitimate and if they have
solid track records?
<Mmm, only by referral really>
Even taking into account freight costs, many times it is far more affordable to
buy direct then from local suppliers.
<Oh yes... do make your needs known of Public Aquariums "within driving
distance"... as they are offered such animals by donation and enforcement
agencies periodically... and don't have the facilities to handle all>
Thank you again.
Matt
<Send along individual company or folks names and if I know of them, or others
in their field/geography I will send your note along or offer input. Bob Fenner>
Chained Dogfish (deep water chained "catshark") 3/24/06
Greetings, Wet Web Crew. First of all, thank you for your prompt answer to
a previous question that I had on shark egg care. I am interested in acquiring
a Chained Dogfish or an egg. I have read that these are very hardy animals to
keep, and that they stay around a foot in length. I have also heard that the
only disadvantage is finding a captive source, because they are a deep-water
Atlantic fish that is rare in the aquarium business.
<I have never encountered this species in the trade>
I am friends with the guys down at Wet Pets, and we weren't able to find a
source for these mislabeled "dogfish". I did find one petting zoo / aquarium in
Maine that had several specimens on display, but they weren't sure where to
acquire more. I have experience with adult catsharks and coral sharks, and have
a sincere professional interest in the chained "dogfish". Any further
information whatsoever would be thoroughly appreciated. Thanks, crew.
-Peter Sewchok
<Mmm, you might try to follow-up with the Public Aquarium... if they have theirs
reproduce there may be a way to acquire these. Bob Fenner>
Cat Shark...Other Stocking Question - 03/16/06
Crew,
<<Eric>>
I appreciate your input.
<<My pleasure>>
I am going to leave the shark out of the mix.
<<You will both likely be happier for this.>>
It will get a little too big for my tank I think.
<<Me too>>
Now I think I will plan on a few tangs, a queen angel (my wife loves this fish),
a couple of pygmy angels, 5 to 7 green chromis, and a harlequin tusk. My new
question is on the harlequin tusk. I am not very familiar with this fish and I
have read differing opinions on compatibility, with some material indicating the
tusk will eat small fish and others saying it's safe. Can green chromis and
other small fish (clowns) be safely kept with a tusk?
<<In my experience/estimation, yes.>>
Thanks again!!!
Eric Skikiewicz
<<Quite welcome, EricR>>
Leopard shark... abandonment issues 03/07/06
I have had a leopard shark in a 1500 gallon pond for about the last 3 years.
I am now forced to move back up north (I am in Florida now) due to my parents
becoming ill. I am not going to be able to get my pond set back up soon enough
to bring her with me. I was wondering if you knew the contact info for sea world
or any other aquarium that I could possibly donate her to? This all came up very
suddenly so I need to try to get her placed as soon as possible. Thank you for
any help
<... you can try contacting... Maybe Bruce Carlson at the new Atlanta
Aquarium... but not good odds. Bob Fenner>
Saltwater questions.. Shark sel., systems 3/4/06
Hi Bob,
<Joe>
I have a few more queries which I'd like your help for.
<Will do my best>
Firstly, I have a chance to purchase a Colclough's Shark, and knowing how rare
these are, would like your opinion on whether these sharks might live well in my
tank.
<The genus does about as well as any captive shark species. Have never seen this
fish in the trade in the U.S., but sometimes sold in areas closer to its
Australian origin:
http://filaman.ifm-geomar.de/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=5893>
My area of concern is the temperature range to which they are accustomed. Scott
Michael's book states this range as being between 18
and 24 degrees Celsius. We have just come out of Summer in Australia and I have
noted that the tank maintains an average temperature of about 28 -30 degrees
Celsius.
<Mmm, yes... I would employ a chilling mechanism here for sure>
While I am certain that this will drop a few degrees during the winter, I do not
want to purchase this shark only to let it suffer next
summer. Do you think the shark will be comfortable given this temperature?
<Not likely. We have a similar "challenge" here in S. California with folks
trying to keep Leopard (Triakis semifasciata, now banned I'm given to
understand), and our local Port Jackson (Heterodontus francisci)... some success
during the winter months, almost none w/o chilled systems during the summer>
If not, I would prefer getting an Epaulette which has a warmer range.
<A better choice w/o the chiller...>
Secondly, I am aware of a certain product on the market ("Deniballs T by
Aquamedic) which claim to reduce nitrate by slowly dissolving over a period
of a year or so. Is this product essential to a successful marine aquarium or is
it simply a money burner?
<Mmm... a worthwhile expedient for some... Nitrates can be a "menace"... but
given other means, not necessary. You do want to keep these at a minimum in
shark systems... less than 10 ppm.>
Are water changes enough to control nitrate?
<Well... not unless you're super-wealthy, to afford bunches of salt mix, or have
a hose pipe from the sea to maintain an open system... Other means are detailed
on WWM... Should be reviewed>
Since I will be keeping a shark and ray, among other fish, do they have a
specific low-tolerance to nitrate??
<Yes! Any is of trouble really...>
Finally, are cooked shrimp better/worse than raw shrimp to feed to my fish?
(In regards to nutrient value and disease carrying potential).
<Worse nutritionally>
Thank you very much for your time and effort,
Joe
<Thank you for helping us all by asking, sharing. Bob Fenner>
Looking to buy sharks - 02/20/06
Hello Bob
<Aviv>
I'm interested in buying many different kinds of sharks. The sharks must be
from the Red Sea !!.
Can you help me?
Best Regards
Aviv Levy
Curator
The Underwater Observatory Marine Park
Eilat, Israel
<Mmm, have been to your facility... I would look to training some of the local
fisherman there to down to Taba re how to transport suitable small specimens...
maybe provide them with large Styro boxes... instructions on how to pass water
over the fish's gills through their mouths... or set aside monies to go catch
them yourself. Bob Fenner>
Seeking Sphyrna tiburo - 2/11/2006
Thanks a lot for your help. Other questions I looking for 4 tiburo sharks
small for a big museum .I ask to dynasty marine without result .Normally the
season for this is June have you a contact for these fishes .
Best regards
David
<Dynasty would be my first choice for Bonnetheads as well. Did you talk with
Forrest Young himself? You might try ORA in Ft. Pierce or Proquatics... for a
lead to a local collector. Bob Fenner>
Shark sel. and ray system 2/3/06
Hello, I have done tons of research on sharks and from many websites,
including yours, the best shark for a smaller home aquarium, would probably be
the marbled cat shark or also known as Indonesian speckled carpet shark,
Hemiscylliidae freycineti, closely related to the Epaulette shark. This shark,
not the epaulette, reaches a maximum size of 28 inches, but some sites say 22 to
24 is maximum. I have recently discovered another type of shark that is not
advertised for sale on the internet but was at my LFS, it was the Gulf Cat
shark, Asymbolus vicenti,
<You've misspelled the name:
http://fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=789&genusname=Asymbolus&speciesname=vincenti>
maximum length at 23 inches. Do you have any info on this particular species?
<Mmm, nope. Have never seen it in the trade or captivity>
Can I keep it with live rock or is the risk of infection to much. I thought it
should be ok do to its natural habitat is in rocky areas. One more question,
can I keep a blue spotted ribbon tail ray, Taeniura lymna, in a tank that is 4
ft long, and 18 inches wide?
<... possibly. Though very few live in captivity in any size system for long.
Not a good gamble>
The only reason I ask this question which may sound crazy is because some sites
say a 75 is minimum,
<Get longer than this sized box>
people I know say this would be a fine size, and that my local fish store says
that it will be ok. These rays in particular mostly lay in the sand unless
agitated or frightened, or in times of feeding. I know they are not the
hardiest and don't have the greatest survival rate but in my experience, I have
been told that there was no way I could keep a blue ribbon eel or banded snake
eel alive, and that the minimum size tank for a banded snake eel was 180 gallons
according to Scott Michael's book and I have been successfully keeping both
specimens in a 55 gallon tank for over 2 years. This makes me question
recommendations.
I know this is a lot to digest, just looking for more info and input.
Thank you and your site for continuous help,
Chris
<In good hands, care, animals can be kept in smaller confines... are they happy,
long-lived? Bob Fenner>
Carcharhinids not in captivity - 01/24/06
Hi, I was wondering if you had any black tipped reef sharks for sale? If you
do, how much are they? Can you ship one to Seattle, Washington? Thank you very
much.
<We don't sell livestock... read on WWM re this species use in captivity... and
save yourself time, money and heartache... oh, and the sharks lives. Bob Fenner>
Coral Catshark... selection, systems 1/17/06
Hello,
<Greetings>
I was interested in getting a coral catshark, and was wondering if you could
recommend any vendors that can ship or are located near Philadelphia. That
Fish Place in Lancaster stocks banded cat sharks and they currently have a
Wobby (nothing I have any desire to keep really). The little Orectolobus they
have is maybe 12 inches long, hopefully it won't end up jammed into a 55 gallon
tank! In any event that is a species that grows far too large for my keeping.
<Mmm, TFP would be my first choice... they can order if they're available at the
time... as the folks know what they're doing there, and this would be the
shortest (further distance) for the specimen to travel. Marine Center, Marine
Depot can likewise order/receive/re-ship such an animal to you>
The two species I had interest in were Atelomycterus marmoratus, and
Atelomycterus macleayi. I have not been able to find them very easily for sale
though. Do you know the basic differences between the species?
<We've been over this. I encourage you to buy Scott Michael's excellent work on
the captive husbandry of these animals... and read it thoroughly>
I was leaning towards getting the marmoratus if possible, but the macleayi
is the only species I could find in the trade.
<Both are offered from time to time... they are wild-collected... and folks "get
around" to them if/when they can...>
The enclosure I have setup for the shark has been running for a while now and
is cycled, currently the tank is empty of fish. The tank is a 125 with a
sand substrate and that's it. There is no rock, and a hiding spot would more
than likely just end up being a chunk of large PVC pipe.
<Mmm, I do advise you to make some sort of larger, heavier structure, with space
behind it... to allow your shark to get out of view...>
I would like to add a large tang to the tank to go with the shark, but that
will come later. I do have a spare 200 gallon tank in the basement, and if
need be I will
eventually set that one up for the shark and any companions (currently I can't
justify such a large tank when the shark I am buying may come to me at under 10
inches in length!
Do you have any species specific care advice?
Thanks,
Steve
<A great deal... unfortunately, am farther behind on other projects... rather
than writing about even the more suitable shark species for aquarium use.
Perhaps you would compile this information, write it up in an article format...
I will gladly help you sell/place it in the e- and paper 'zine mag.s. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Coral Catshark 1/19/06
Thanks for the input. I will contact TFP and see what they can do. I
checked online and found a few books on aquarium shark keeping (one is in stock
at
the local book store), and I am going to pick that up as well.
-Steve
<A good investment. Good luck, life to you. Bob Fenner>
Nurse shark spitting water out of the tank 12/21/05
Ok here isn't something I have seen before but the
shark is doing it most nights. Once it become night
and he becomes active, he will swim along the top of
the tank. He will then go up to the top of the tank
and spit water. There is one section that is not
covered and he send the water flying out. any reason
for this particular behavior? <First off Peter, no home aquarium is large enough
to keep a nurse shark in conditions to its liking. Why do pet shops sell these,
they need to be banned. Are you aware these sharks attain lengths of 16
feet? They will NOT adapt to aquarium conditions and don't listen to anyone who
tells you their growth can be controlled by smaller feedings or by the size of
tank they are in. His behavior is largely due to the negative conditions he is
living in. Stress, my friend. It won't be too long before he will be attempting
to jump out. I'd try to find a home for him such as a public aquarium. Sharks
are best left in the sea where they will do the most good. James (Salty Dog)>
“Cat” Shark Care 12/17/05
Hi,
<Hello.>
thanks for all your info it is very useful...
<Quite welcome.>
I am purchasing a 250 gallon tank to house a baby band cat shark, hope to be an
adult cat
shark some day... That is the only fish I plan on having...
<Good sharks should be kept in species only tanks.>
What kind of filtration system do you recommend?
<A VERY large protein skimmer, perhaps some type of bio-media (since you won’t
be able to keep copious amounts of Live Rock in the display) or better yet a
live rock/macro-algae refugium and of course LOTS of water flow.>
Is this size tank big enough?
<It’s hard to say there are a few sharks labeled with the common name cat-shark
(Including Atelomycterus marmoratus and Chiloscyllium punctatum, the first stays
under 30” while the second grows to over 40” – big difference), and while the
volume of the tank (250-gallons) sounds good on paper, it would help to know the
exact dimensions of the tank. Surface area is very important with these
animals.>
How is the maintenance for this fish?
<Sharks are not for casual aquarists, be sure to research the needs thoroughly,
re: disease, diet and so on., read the FAQ’s here on WWM and check out Scott
Michael’s, “Sharks and Rays.”>
Thanks for your help... I have
also donated to Amazon Honor System...
<Thank you for this, Adam J.>
Black Tip Sharks 11/22/05
Hello
<Hey, Mike G here.>
Hope you can help me.
<So do I. :)>
I am after purchasing 2 black tip sharks for an aquarium tank.
<Hope it is a very, very large aquarium.>
Where would I go about finding them,
<Not sure... not exactly a readily available species (which is a good thing, for the most part)
and have you got a estimated cost?
<No, sorry. I'd guess somewhere around $400-$500 for a decent sized one, but I've yet to see them offered for sale, so...>
regards
<Good luck on your search!>
David Fry
<Mike G>
Shark Selection 11/9/05
Dear Mr. Fenner,
<Maria>
We are Polish company which is doing marine aquariums for private people as well as other institutions in our
country. We also plan to open Oceanarium in Gdansk.
<How nice!>
We consider you as an expert and we appreciate you for your knowledge about sharks and therefore I would
to kindly request you for your opinion and help.
<Okay>
One of our customers asked us to order for him a Blacktip shark to be settled in a tank with capacity
6000 l. Our knowledge is not sufficient to decide wither it is big enough to prevent it from hurting itself.
<Mmm, about 1,600 gallons... should work out only when this fish is small... for a few years (2,3...), though not for its entire lifetime>
Therefore I would like to kindly ask you for your opinion concerning this issue. If you consider that it is not big enough that what
other species could be suitable for such a aquarium.
<The Epaulette, Bamboo and Hornshark families have some suitable species... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharkselfaqs.htm
and the linked files above>
The second thing is, that in the mentioned oceanarium we would like to create a tank with capacity 40 000l,
where we would like to settle as many different species of sharks as it is possible taking into consideration their
safety of course. We would be grateful for your suggestion and list of sharks that in your opinion could safely
inhabit one tank.
<Mmm, some species can be mixed... likely you, your customer/s want more "sharky" sharks... ones that swim about, hover off the bottom (unlike the families suggested above)... there are some smaller species here... I would take the time to search through Fishbase.org, get/use a copy of Scott Michael's shark and ray book...>
<<I also suggest they try to contact the good people at the Long Beach
Aquarium of the Pacific. Marina>>
Thank you in advance. I am looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Yours faithfully,
Maria Chodorowska
Siren Group www.siren.pl
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Hunting for eels! 11/6/05
Hi, my name is William; I live on an island in the Caribbean. I live on the shore and lately have been chasing after what I believe to be chain-link
morays.
<Most common species in shallow water there...>
It seems to be tougher than I expected. I was wondering if there are anyways of attracting these magnificent eels to a certain area. Just the
other night I went to look for them since they are nocturnal, but I believe they went out to sea for feeding. The area I usually find them in is a small
cove covered in spiny lobster, parrotfish, sea urchins, and green morays.
Recently I have seen three of them in the span of two days. Two of them were large averaging about one and a half feet long. The third though was quite
skinny and was about eight inches long. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
<Can be caught in "minnow traps" incorporating a fyke on one/both end/s... with bait inside. Or with a barbless hook and line, with something meaty for bait... or via a small fence and hand net... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/collmarsdvg.htm
and the linked files above, and the accounts on moray eels archived on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Domestic Lantern Shark?!? 8/18/05
Hi
I was Just curious about a few details in domestic Shark keeping (if
that's a word).
Since most Sharks seem to be too large to keep in a normal sized tank,
so I was wondering If I could keep a Lantern Shark as a pet. If I could,
I was wondering if you could tell me a few things about them, such as
temp., diet and tank size.
Thanks
<Have never seen members of the Family Dalatiidae, Sleeper sharks, kept
in captivity, nor read of others accounts... You still will need to
provide a system of at least three times the adult length and twice the
width of whichever species you'd like to husband. Bob Fenner> |
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Domestic Lantern Shark?!? part 2 8/19/05
Are there any other sharks almost that small?
<See here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharks.htm
Bamboos and Epaulettes are about the best tropical species and horn/port
Jacksons are about the best temperate species. As Bob stated, systems of at
least a few hundred gallons are still necessary with indoor "ponds" working
best. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/cav1i1/pondDIYCalfo/diy-pond.htm Best
Regards! AdamC.>