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FAQs on Environmental Pondfish Disease, Diagnosis

Related Articles: Environmental Pond Disease, Koi/Pond Fish Disease, Gas Bubble Disease/Emphysematosis, Pond Parasite Control with DTHPHole in the Side Disease/FurunculosisGoldfish Disease,

Related FAQs: Pond Environmental Disease 1, Pond Environmental Disease 2, Pond Environmental Disease 3, & FAQs on Pond Environmental Disease: Prevention, Causes: Cumulative Stress, Predation, Low/no Oxygen, Poisoning (Algicides, Metals, Pesticides...), Metabolite Accumulation, Physical Trauma/Damage, Electrical, Troubleshooting/Fixing, & Pond Fish DiseasePondfish Disease 2, Pondfish Disease 3, Goldfish Disease,

Container Pond, Unhappy Fish?  03/07/2006
Hi Bob,
<Actually, Sabrina here tonight.  We had some technical difficulties; turns out my laptop at home has a configuration that allows us to read and respond to your query.>
I found your website through Google and I sincerely hope you can help!  I purchased a glazed water bowl (very large) on the weekend and have filled it with water, placed 4 goldfish and a water lily plant in a tub in the base of the bowl.  It sits outside and is about 1 metre in circumference.  I have feed the little fish each morning, however it doesn't seem like they are eating.  They certainly do not respond at all when I place the food in the water.  They float at the base of the bowl and rarely move.  I must say I am very concerned for them!!!  I bought the fish from a brilliant pet shop and requested the most hardy fish possible for outdoor ponds.  No other information or recommendations were provided.  Can you please help?  
<Very much to learn, here....  First and foremost, the basics of keeping fish....  Cycling the "tank" (pond, in this case), maintaining the system, caring for a pond....  As for why the animals are listless at the bottom of the container, this could be anything as simple as a very low water temperature to something as deadly as high ammonia.  Please read the following link, and the other pages linked at the top: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm , and the applicable sections here:  http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm .>
Look forward to hearing from you.  Yours sincerely,  -Peta Donaldson
<I do hope this is the beginning of an exciting learning experience for you!  Container ponds are great fun.  Wishing you well,  -Sabrina>

Container Pond, Unhappy Fish? - II - 03/07/2006
Sabrina,
<Hello again.>
Thanks for your reply.  However, a little too late...  the fish all died two days after I sent you the email.  I contacted the pet shop from which I purchased the fish and told them how bitterly disappointed I was.
<Very sorry to hear this.>
Fish abuse at its best.  Very upsetting.
<Indeed.>
That is definitely the first and last time I purchase fish.
<Do please take some time to read, research, perhaps invest in a couple good books (or even borrow from a local library) and look around on WetWebMedia - and once you have a better understanding of the animals you wish to care for, try again.>
Best regards,  -Peta
<All the best to you,  -Sabrina>  

Sick pond Goldfish. Koi ... no useful data or reading 04/22/08
I hope you can help because we have already lost 1 fish to what ever this is. Charlie is 9 inches long and resides in our 10 x14' pond with 7 other fish in approximately 1600 gallons of water. He has started to swim in spirals recently and lies bent over rocks or floating at the top of the water. He also has much more vibrant color on the side of his body that is facing down. His appetite is pretty good but he grows increasingly lethargic.
I filled or 10 gallon aquarium with water from the pond & placed an aerator in the tank. He is now inside where we can watch him closer till I know if this could be contagious. I can't find anything like this on the internet. Hope you can figure this out.
<Something amiss here... with the environment itself... Need data on the history of water quality, including how much the temperature vacillates here, DO... I suspect it's the largest animals that have died, been mal-affected first... Have you read through the Pond Fish Disease FAQs on WWM? Please see here: http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
Read re others experience to give you an idea of what sorts of info. we're looking for/need to help you. Bob Fenner>

Koi Problems
Hi There, I am not a novice. But I would take any advice about my Koi. The Problem is one of my prize Koi is listing a little on his side. But when I go to feed them he perks up. Should I be alarmed?
<I would be.>
I know my fish and this is not normal.
<Agreed.>
Here are the stats. 150 gal tank inside. Good filtration, did water change yesterday and do regularly. Have 10 or so med to large Koi with, plus 20 or so small ones.
<That is an awful lot of fish for that tank.>
All other fish doing fine. Should I separate and try some meds or what do you think?
<I would first examine water quality (this is my first reaction to anything abnormal); pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and particularly oxygen concentration. It is not unusual for the largest fish to show signs of distress when oxygen levels are depressed. -Steven Pro>
Please help, Thank you
Clark R.
Puyallup Wa

Hemorrhage (In My Pond) - Just Poor Water Quality? - 08/19/2004
Last Saturday I added some common goldfish and 4 Koi (the Koi are only about 4" long)  to my backyard pond/waterfall.  The water has been circulating almost continually since the addition of the fish to provide oxygen and help prevent the growth of algae.  
<Almost continually?  Not constant?>
I have not tested, at this time, the condition of the water to make sure all the levels are within fish tolerance.  This morning I ended up removing a dead goldfish that appears to have had some hemorrhaging around the eyes and scales, nothing around the gills however.
<I would *immediately* test ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate, also pH (if you can, compare your pond's pH with that of the store where you got them).>
Prior to the fish dying, I noticed that his movement in the pond seemed lethargic and he was having some difficulty maintaining his equilibrium.  I recently went and checked the pond again and am seeing yet another goldfish with similar symptoms as the first.  I checked for any signs of hemorrhaging and see small red spots under both eyes but nothing like the first one.  Any suggestions?
<First and foremost, with so much life added at once - and you only say 'some' common goldfish, I assume this is a higher number than the 4 Koi - I would not be at all surprised if ammonia and nitrite are, or at least have been, highly toxic.  Please test these values - without knowing them, there's no further I can recommend.  If ammonia or nitrite are not *zero*, you'll have to do some hefty water changes (a PITA in a pond - yikes!) to bring them back down.  Please do keep us updated, and we'll try to be of more service, once a problem/solution can be had.  Wishing you well,  -Sabrina>

Koi dying with no physical signs 6/29/05
Hi
<Hello there>
I have been searching your site for possible causes for the death of my fish. I have lost one a day for the last seven days. The pond is new (about 6500 litres). I left the pond for a couple of weeks before putting the fish (15 small Koi up to 7") into it. The filter and fountain were running for the entire period since the pond was filled.
I had read quite a few of your responses to other owners with similar problems (fish dying with no outward signs). The fish that have died became loaners, not feeding and began swimming at a very shallow depth and would die within 24 to 48 hours of showing these symptoms. Whilst reading one of your replies about possible deaths caused by poisoning by weed killers/pesticides etc.
<Or the system just not being cycled... the root cause here is almost assuredly environmental>
it suddenly dawned on me that my pond design may actually be poisoning my fish. The pond is part dug and part raised and lined (not a problem). However the top edge of the pond was finished with 6" wide decking timbers. I realized, whilst reading your replies, they were made from tanalised timber (for those who may make the same mistake as me but are unaware of what tanalised timbers are, they are timbers treated with cyanide). I have made a presumption that when it is raining the cyanide is possibly getting into the water (not 100% but I think it is a strong possibility). Of course I immediately went out and took these timbers off my pond and will drain it first thing in the morning.
<Yikes!>
Could you please let me know your views on this? If you think I am right then I hope this information may help others who have made (or might make) a similar oversight to mine!!
Ps. Great site!!!
Regards
Stephen Robbins
<You are correct in that treated lumber can be real trouble... A sample of the water might be taken to a quality assurance or college laboratory for analysis... Perhaps the timber can be sealed with something making it impervious to water... like polyurethane... Or it can be moved, the pond modified such that water that does come in contact does not wash into the basin. I wish you well. Bob Fenner>

 

 

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