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FAQs about the Undulated Triggerfish
Compatibility Related FAQs:
Balistapus 1,
Balistapus 2,
Undulatus Identification,
Undulatus Behavior,
Undulatus Selection, Undulatus Systems,
Undulatus Feeding,
Undulatus Systems,
Undulatus Disease,
Undulatus Reproduction, Triggerfishes
in General,
Triggerfish: Identification,
Selection,
Selection 2, Compatibility,
Behavior,
Systems, Feeding,
Diseases, Triggerfish
Health 2,
Reproduction,
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Balistapus
Species, Red
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2" Undulate and a 2" Picasso with a 7" Niger 4/1/07
Greetings WWM crew!,
<Greetings. Brandon here.>
Many thanks for your help on my previous inquiries. I have one more for
you. I have a 110 gal tank (about 100lbs of live rock), and I've had a Niger in
it for the last 6 years and he's about 7" now (I think it's a he). I'd say he's
on the peaceful side (given that it shared it's tank with a Percula clown until
the clown died of old age. But he did kill and eat a few other fish since the
clown, but that was mainly my fault for pushing my luck with other clowns. I
recently added two 2" triggers (an Undulate and a Picasso).
<You are asking for it.>
Right now, the undulate hides whenever Niger comes out of his caves, but Picasso
is quite social with Niger and they get along fine. But, as expected, once or
twice, I've seen the undulate attack the Picasso hard (no biting) just hit him
on the belly, but that's when Picasso gets too close to its home rock.
<The fish can cause internal damage by doing this.>
Other times, they pass each other without an incident. Could you make any
predictions about the tank over the next few years?
<The Balistapus undulatus is going to grow up, and kill your other fish. These
Triggers are not social, and they have very bad attitudes. I would move this
one to a species tank and keep nothing else with it. Further, I would not add
anymore Triggers to the main display. They need their space.>
Thanks much,
<You are welcome. Brandon.>
ND
Pair of undulated triggers? 11/21/06
Hi there,
<Hi Kelly, Michelle here.> Considering that undulated triggers are sexually
dichromatic, I am wondering whether it's possible to keep a male/female
pair? Everything I've read says they are best kept solo, but I have not seen
this possibility addressed. I have a 180-gal tank. <I do not have any personal
experience related to your question, I did try to find any relevant info online
without much luck. Your tank is a decent size. It may be worth trying. I
think the best chance of success would be finding two smaller ones and
introducing both fish at the same time, but it could be quite difficult to catch
and remove one if there is a problem. I would definitely have a plan b and
possible plan c ready to be put into motion. Good luck! Mich>
Thanks!
Kelly
Corals and Tankmates for Undulate Trigger, Porcupine Puffer and Moray
Eel 4/1/06
Hello, <Hi there, Leslie here with you this morn’in>
In my 100 gal tank I have a Porcupine puffer, moray eel, and undulated
trigger, question is can I put corals in and if so what type?
<Unfortunately not, your Undulated Trigger will eat just about anything and
everything in it’s path.>
I also want to add 1-2 more fish.
<You will need a much bigger tank eventually if you plan on one or 2 more
fish and you may need to re think the tankmate choices for your Undulated
Trigger. These are very aggressive and territorial fish and should only be
kept with like minded fish. Here is a quote from an article called Family
Balistidae by Dave Crandall…..
“Balistapus undulatus, or the undulated trigger, is a gorgeous fish; and it
is one of the most predictable triggers available. B. undulatus grows to
about a foot. They are found in the Indo-pacific and Red Sea at depths of
2-50m. They feed on a wide variety of benthic plant and animal organisms.
These fish are highly territorial, especially females after eggs have been
laid. B. undulatus is a sexually dichromic animal. The males lack orange
lines on top of the snout. This fish cannot be housed in a reef aquarium. It
will eat just about anything, moving or not. This fish is willing to attack
and kill anything that cannot kill it. If it is to be kept with other fish,
it should be in a large tank only with large, very aggressive fish. There
are some reports that Red Sea undulated triggers are slightly less
belligerent.” The article in it’s entirety can be viewed here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/triggers2.htm>
Thank You, Michael Pursley
<Your most welcome. I hope this helps, Leslie>
Undulate Triggerfish...Hope This Tank Is Huge! - 02/06/2006
Hi
<Hi there John.>
I am thinking of buying an Undulate Triggerfish. I read they are quite
aggressive.
<Yep!>
Do you think it will be fine with the following fish or should I leave it alone?
3 Clowns
1 Lipstick Tang
1 Sohal Tang
1 Regal Tang
1 Sailfin Tang
1 Purple Tang
1 Picasso Trigger
1 Niger Trigger
1 Clown Trigger
1 Copperband Butterfly
<If this system isn't at least a couple/few hundred gallons, you're likely to
have trouble already! I'd not add this fish.>
Thanks
John
<Sure. - Josh>
Trigger & buffer question 8/30/05
Hi, I have experienced 2 different times where a trigger of 4 and 5 inches
in length started out fine in my 100 gallon tank and after a couple of weeks
they stopped eating, then got a bloated stomach, started breathing hard, then 3
days later would die. There is a big undulate (almost 7") in the tank but it
never bit them, she would let them know she was there, but did not chase them.
When a trigger is stressed, is the stomach thing I saw common? It just looked
like they had a full stomach.
<Is very likely "just" stress... like you having a "friendly" tiger in your
house, no way to get out>
Second, I have been experimenting with baking soda and borax. I have been
reading all I can find, and with my own experimentation have found that 2 parts
baking soda and 1 part borax produces 8.2 Ph. Have you guys heard of this
before?
<Oh yes>
I have been using it for about 3 weeks now without trouble (besides the noted
triggers) from a niger, louti grouper, lionfish, undulate, miniata, coris
wrasse, humu. (they are in various tanks!!!!)
Thanks, Dan.
<These are the principal ingredients in most "pH buffering" commercial products.
Bob Fenner>
Undulated Trigger... trouble
Bob,
<< JasonC here, standing in for Bob. >>
Nice Site. You seem to be very well informed on Triggers. I read the FAQ and did not see any info on Undulated Triggers. Probably because most people are smart enough to stay away from the mean bastards.
<< I am a trigger fan myself and this is how I was initially drawn to WWM. Bob is not far away and will appreciate your kind words. You are quite correct about the undulated triggers. >>
Here is my problem. I have a 4 1/2" Betta, 3 1/2" dogface puffer, 10" snowflake eel, and I just added a 4" UNDULATED trigger. I know the rule when adding a Trigger. Always make sure it is the smallest of the fish in the aquarium. I thought it was close enough. The
Betta gets nipped at once in awhile and is segregated to a corner most of the time. The puffer has no fear and will not give up territory. The result is it is nipped at much more. He refuses to use is defense mechanism and allows himself to get nipped. I was hoping one "puff" might make them more compatible. The puffer is very healthy and vibrant but the marks he receives are beginning to worry me. The trigger has only been in the tank for about 2 weeks. Its a 60 gallon tank.
<< you're right again, that is a problem >>
Is there any chance that the trigger will become less aggressive as he gets more comfortable? I will be very sad if he makes my puffer unhappy or even worse kills him.
<< it's a coin toss that the trigger will either get better, or get worse, and if I was a betting man, I'd take worse. Likewise, it would be unfortunate for this newcomer to spoil an otherwise peaceful tank. >>
Although I want to avoid this, should I trade him in for 2 SMALL triggers (2-3 inches)? I would want a clown and UNDULATED. Am I just a glutton for punishment or would the extremely small size make them ok?
<< don't avoid it. No to the two small triggers of those types - two baby attack dogs. Perhaps you are a glutton for punishment. You could maybe try a small Huma trigger, they are often on the lighter side of the
temperament scale. >>
On a less important but curious note. I bought two blue damsels, two Dottybacks, and 2 black fish that are similar to dottys. The trigger fed on the both dottys then eventually the other two blackfish in order. The blue damsels have been left uneaten for 2 weeks. Any special defense or just dumb luck? Sorry for the length of this mail.
<< faster combined with dumb luck. Give the trigger time and their luck will run out. >>
Thanks in advance,
<< you are quite welcome >>
Bob
Same Trigger, Same Trouble
Bob, I wrote about the Undulated trigger problem. My puffer is a PORCUPINE puffer NOT and DOGFACE PUFFER.
<< JasonC again... same advice applies. >>
Regards,
Bob
<< Cheers, J -- >>
Trigger Tribulations
Here's my question...I found a 3-4 inch Undulated trigger, that is very shy.
<He won't be for long!>
Every time I see him he runs and hides. Now here's the problem, I
have sea anemones (1 Condylactis). Will it eat or pick at it?
<Almost certainly>
I'm also thinking about picking up some clowns and a carpet anemone.
<Not in the same tank, please!>
Do you think this trigger will have a problem in my tank? It's a
55gal w/ a med porcupine puffer, large Tang, Blue devil damsel, Atlantic
Starfish, and a snail. The puffer has a good temperament except for small fish.
Any ideas? Erik B.
<Well, Eric- I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are a few things
wrong with this picture. First, the Undulated Trigger has a well-deserved
reputation for being one of the most aggressive, pugnacious fish kept in
aquariums! It's not a matter of if it will be a problem with other
fish, but WHEN! Really should have a tank of his own. A LARGE tank- this guy can
reach a foot in length. Your 55 is too crowded! The puffer is an awesome,
adorable fish, but he gets HUGE, and needs a big tank with vigorous filtration.
Just about any tang will outgrow a 55 gal. My purpose in pointing these problems
out to you is not to "scold' you, but to give you an idea as to what you're
getting into with a fish like this! I love your enthusiasm and interest, but
please take some time to study future fish purchases before you act. A good
book, like Bob's CMA, or Scott Michael's "Marine Fishes", will go a
long way towards helping you make good decisions. Please consider swapping these
fish with someone who has the facilities to keep them for their full life spans,
and at their adult sizes, or be prepared to buy a very large tank. You will be a
successful aquarist, but you need to be more aware of the long-term implications
of purchasing large fishes, and the responsibility that goes with them. Keep
reading, learning! You'll be fine! Scott F.>
Don't Sweat The Aiptasia- He's "Trigger Happy"!
Hello -- WWM Crew
<Hey there- Scott F. with you today...Had server problems last night- I don't
think that my reply got to you intact...Got me on the laptop in bed this AM
(scary imagery, I know-but a great way to do WWM work!) trying again!>
I have a 125 gallon tank with a Undulated Trigger and a Huma Huma both about 4.5
inches. I am aware of the potential of both Triggers particularly the Undulated. My
intentions are to get a larger tank soon.
<Very good intentions, indeed! These guys will get quite large, and quite
boisterous down the line. The 120 should be okay for a while, though>
However the two get along fine now an occasional snap by the Undulated during
feeding but they typically swim right next to each other without confrontation. The
tank is loaded with coralline encrusted live rock which provides plenty of
hiding
places. I have two questions the first is how do you tell a Red Sea
Undulated from the more nasty/aggressive I guess Indo Pacific??
variety/subspecies?
<As far as I know-this species does not have any instinct geographic color
variations. I did check a number of non-aquarium resources for you, and was
unable to find any information in regard to this.>
I understand Undulated Triggers are sexually dichromic --- I have a female with
orange lines down to her mouth.
<Yep- the sexual color variation is a fact. And I concur- you seem to have a
female, as males do lose the orange lines around the snout as they mature>
Reason I am asking is that I read the Red Sea can possibly become a long time
tank mate with other predatory types --- but
the other subspecies? Makes survival of a tankmate highly unlikely --- is this
accurate?
<To be quite honest with you, in my experience with this fish, as well as the
experience of a few friends who currently maintain them- they are just tough
customers, regardless of where they hail from. They tend to become more feisty
as they mature. However, triggers are notorious for being
"non-conformists" to our behavioral expectations of them in captivity!
I have seen 10 inch Clown Triggers that seemed very "tame", and small
Crosshatch Triggers (reputed to be more "gentle") just beat the @#$%
over anything that they were placed with!>
The second question is I have live rock with what appears to be
anemones growing on them. The anemones?? are small and not very
colorful ---kind of a caramel brown color. Does this description sound familiar
enough for you to guess if they are anemones?
<Yep- all too familiar, actually! Sounds a lot to me like the famous (or
infamous, depending upon how you look at them) Aiptasia anemones! They tend to
come in on live rock, and proliferate with remarkable speed in tanks with higher
nutrient levels or bioloads (such as...a trigger tank!). Reefers freak out when
they see Aiptasia because they tend to overrun other (desirable) sessile inverts
and corals. However, in a FOWLR tank like yours, I would not be too concerned,
other than to see if they are indicative of sub-par water conditions (probably
not, though).
The anemones(?) are multiplying and the Triggers don't seem to bother them at
all --- My question is can Anemones and
Triggers co-exist for long or will the triggers likely damage the Anemones??
<Well, I wouldn't go out an by that tank-raised Bubble Tip Anemone just yet!
My personal theorem on anemones and triggers is that the possibility of the
anemone becoming a chew toy for the trigger is directly proportionate to the
value and attractiveness of the anemone! Just not a great idea, IMO. I wouldn'
worry about the Aiptasia, at this point, however...Sounds like your pals aren't
too interested in them- yet...Aiptasia are interesting animals in their own
right- very efficient at what they do best...eating. In fact, Anthony (Calfo)
has even gone so far as to suggest that they could be harnessed in a special
raceway as a natural biological filtration supplement! They are that good at
eating!>
Thanks in advance for your response
<My pleasure! Thanks for stopping by! Regards, Scott F>
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