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FAQs about Canopies, Tops and Housings for Lighting for Marine
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DIY Reflector Hell gentlemen! Thank you for your help and
for this website which is a wealth of information. My question is
regarding Power compact bulb reflectors. Because my half hexagon has a
custom light hood I have considered purchasing some bulbs that advertise
a built in 180 degree reflector. I realized that on some bulbs this 180
degree reflector is nothing more than a silver heat resistant sticker or
some kind of white paint on half of the bulb which allows it to reflect
light. I happen to have some white spray paint at home that is made for
BBQ's. It is heat resistant and can stand up to the heat generated by
any fluorescent bulb. I thought about using masking tape and a
little creativity to spray the back half of the bulb with this white
paint. <Interesting> I figure it will perform just like these
other bulbs that advertise a built in 180 degree reflector. Of course I
would let the paint dry before actually using it in the fixture. My hope
is to increase the amount of light that is reflected down into the
aquarium. I know it would probably be better to just buy reflectors but
money being tight I just thought this might help a bit. What do you
think? <Worth experimenting... not all paints are much "light
reflective" though. I would spray one, test it with a PAR meter...
you can likely borrow the latter from a local LFS or reef/marine
club...> Am I on to something or is the idea worthless. Can anyone
out there maybe test this idea and use a light meter to see if it
increases the amount of light reflected more than a polished aluminum
reflector? <Oh yes... I would write Sanjay Joshi or Dana Riddle re
this idea... Again, worth trying. Bob Fenner> Thanks, Mario.
DIY light hood - 01/03/2006 Hi. <Hello. John here
with you this evening.> I'm planning to build a hood with 2 250W MH
and 2 96W PC bulbs. My question is, what type of reflector is best?
<For the halides or PCs? For the halides, the shape of the reflector is
critical - there are a number of variables. Do check out Sanjay Joshi's
interesting work on this subject- the most relevant of which is here:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/feature.htm . Bear
in mind that all double-ended bulbs must have a piece of protective
glass installed below the bulb to block damaging UV radiation - it may
be easier / safer to purchase a fixture.> I have read that some
people paint the inside all white, some black <Surely not black!.>
Others use a mirror type reflector and some polished aluminum. thanks
for your advice. <You're welcome! Best regards, John.>
Finding A Suitable MH Reflector - 04/11/06 It has been quite
some time since I had to go to the all knowing WWM Crew with a question,
but since this is a continual learning hobby, I have returned!
<<Indeed it is...for me as well...welcome back>> I am rebuilding my
65g reef tank due to a forced relocation. I have 4x 96w VHOs and 2x
250w MHs. It isn't hard to fit all the lights in the canopy (19"x37"),
but I had to seriously mangle the reflectors to put them in the first
time. <<I'll bet>> Basically the MH's parabolic reflector had to
be partially bent closed from their ~13" width to about 8" and I had to
cut the VHOs' reflector in half to about 5" each because I have 2x VHOs
on either side of the centered MHs. <<Not so much an issue with the
VHOs, but this would seriously affect your "spread" on the metal
halides>> I want to put a "less mangled" reflector in the hood this
time. What do you think about a simple 36"x18"x2" reflector instead of
the mix-match I have now? Do you know where I can get such a reflector?
<<Indeed I do! PFO has a 36" parallel reflector with dual mogul sockets
and "shelf" to mount your VHOs. I have two of these over my 8ft
tank. Check out an example here: http://oceanencounter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=OE&Product_Code=P3PRW2MS&Category_Code=RSC ...if
you have any questions about the reflector, call Vince at Ocean
Encounter...a very helpful individual>> Thanks (again) for the help!
-Jeff <<Always a pleasure, EricR>>
Best/Better Reflectors for reef light canopies Sorry, I was out
of town for last few days. <Sanjay... no worries. Thank you my friend
for taking the time to share your opinion> Of the pre-made
reflectors, the 2 most popular are the spider light and the PFO
reflectors. If you have problems with getting them into a hood, the next
best option is to make your own by buying sheets of the reflective
material and installing them in your hood. Champion (Lighting and Supply
Company) sells different sizes and there may be others on the web who do
as well. White paint is not a good solution, neither is the flashing
from Home Depot. The reflective material should be anodized to prevent
corrosion. Using these reflective materials (most of them are the
Everbrite by Alcoa) you can easily get 20-40% more light into your tank.
Sanjay. <wonderful... I'll be sure to pass this along. Thanks again
very kindly, Anthony Calfo>
Lighting and Reflectors
Anthony- Thank you so much for the email from Sanjay! I feel quite
honored to have both of your input into my lighting system. :) <it
is my honour that anyone should care to know my opinion> I just
ordered my 2x175 watt MH PFO dual, & 110 watt VHO actinic IcaCap430. The
MH are Ushio 10K and the Actinic lights are 03 URI (or IUR, RUI, IRU..
damn my dyslexic mind!) <correct...URI, outstanding quality
fluorescents> I ordered the spider reflectors. My original question
was not if the Spider reflector was my best choice, but if I can use the
Spider Reflector with the VHO bulbs below it. <I do recall... my
apologies... I did not have enough experience to comment and Sanjay may
have overlooked it> No worries, in 5-7 working days I will find out
if it can work. In any event I know now what will be my best second
choice if it does fail to work. <please do let us learn from your
experience> Thanks for your time and effort! It has made difference
for the positive for my future coral. Robert <you made the difference
for caring... continue to do so. Anthony> Jumping Fish, Tank
Cover, Reflector Hello there, I decided to remove the eggcrate
grill covering my 55g tank's top. I noticed that the PC lighting made a
cool looking shimmering effect. I also noticed that the white eggcrate
reflected a lot of the light away from the water. <Eggcrates have a
top and bottom. Take a close look and you will notice that the sides of
each square have a bevel to them. You want to orient it so that the
bevel works to focus your light.> Should I keep the eggcrate on?
<I like them.> I'd like to leave it off, unless that shimmering
effect is unhealthy for the fish and anemones <No, just fine for the
animals.> (3 FL Condys, and a bubble tip...I'll be getting rid of the
Condys in time). I have a yellow tang, Kole tang, cinnamon clown, 4
damsels (4striped, 3 striped, and two yellow tails). Are any of these
known jumpers? <Anyone can jump.> I currently have 2x55w PCs (two
more on the way) hanging off the inside top of my oak canopy...I drilled
the clips that hold the bulb into the canopy and snapped the bulbs into
place, then took some metal-like yarn and tied the ends of each clip
together....just in case the bulbs slipped out of the clips, the wire
would catch it...I don't know if this will actually work, but it gives
me peace of mind since they are now just hanging over open water (3.5 to
4 inches over the water...hard to get an accurate measurement). I am
saving up for reflectors, but right now I have aluminum foil reflecting
the light back to tank. Is this OK/safe to do for the meantime?
<Sure, have seen it done many times.> I came across a FAQ in the
archive and Bob mentioned to someone something about using Mylar or
Mylar sheets or wardrobe mirrors or something like that for "something",
but that "something" was never stated in the question (it was a reply).
Was Bob suggesting using this reflective material as a light reflector?
<Yes> Could I use pieces of cut mirror as reflectors? <Yes, but
rather heavy.> Oh, I realized the other day that my 55g tank is not
really a 55g tank. If I use the dimensions/measurements of the outside
of the tank, and divide by 231, I get 55 gallons. But when I measure the
inside of the tank, it actually comes out to about 40 something gallons.
Do tank manufacturers label their products based on inside the tank
measurements or outside the tank measurements? <Outside
measurements.> And last, do I use the manufacturer's "55g" label when
considering lighting needs (e.g., 4 watts per gallon for 55g tank equals
220watts) or my own calculations of actual in tank capacity? <The
manufacturer's labeling.> Very last, does this make a difference in
calculating for live rock stocking? <No, everyone uses the
manufacturer's labeling for convention.> Thank you again, Randy M.
Yniguez, MA <You are welcome. -Steven Pro> Re: Advice Please
Lighting (canopy reflectorizing) Sounds good but surely mirrors
have more reflective properties than any other material and if I seal
the mirrors well on the inside of my tank it shouldn't cause harm ???
Just asking you are the guru please advise . <Mmm, will have to look
for a while in analog files... folks have tested these materials for
reflectance properties... and the "mirrored closet" material (Mylar
encased) comes out near tops... and is relatively cheap, easy to work
with... Glass mirror and silvering can rust, chip... Bob Fenner>
Werner Schoeman Re: Advice Please Lighting Hi Anthony
thanks I have read the link , quick question apparently mirrors aren't
the best bet but due to rather big financial constraints what about
using normal aluminium foil in my canopy ?? <Pardon my intervention.
Bob F here. I am a big fan of the Mylar and acrylic (inexpensive and
good reflection properties) that you can buy through plastic
fabricators, large hardware stores... and cut to size, install with
silicone sealant.> Werner Schoeman Reflector question
Hi Arthur> OK, for the 75 gallon tall reef tank, I think I've finally
decided to try swapping my 2 250W 10K MH for 2 250W 20K Radiums. It's
not a drop in wattage, but I wanted to at least try it before tossing
the ballasts and having to get new 175W ballasts, and I can get a pair
of Radiums for around $160. Can I maybe drop the wattage going into
the tank by removing the reflectors? <The Radiums sound cool Not
quite the same as 400watt Radiums, but should be nice! No, you won't
lower the wattage of anything, that's the amount of power the lights use
(250 watts), not the amount of light they emit. Removing the reflector
WILL reduce the amount of reflected light, but it won't do anything
about wattage, and MAY be a fire hazard without it.> I have Spider
reflectors, and removing them should help in lowering the overall
wattage entering the tank, no? I'm a little concerned about warping the
wood of the canopy without reflectors - would you remove them or find
some way of dampening them, maybe with heat-resistant paint for example?
<No. Leave the reflectors and raise the hood or lights or use shading of
some kind if you are worried about temporary added light levels. The
Radiums should be about the same intensity but a different spectrum than
the 10K's. Leave the reflectors, they reflect a LOT of heat from the
wood hood and paint is painted onto....wood, that's still flammable!>
Thanks for all of the help the last couple of days...you provide an
invaluable, extremely helpful resource for the reef tank owner to be
able to ask questions that aren't covered by a FAQ... Arthur <Hope
this helps you Arthur, Craig> Plexi-mirrors Hi Crew!
I'm planning to put 2 175W metal halides above my 80 gal reef tank.
Future inhabitants: T. maximas, fish, corals (I don't know which ones
yet) and some invertebrates. Enough light? I am planning to supplement
with 2 110W actinic VHOs in the future, also (far future... no rush=no
funds). Well here is my real question: I've been reading up on your
canopy FAQs and Bob has suggested using acrylic coated Mylar or plexi
mirror as a DIY reflector. I am concerned that my metal halides will
melt this material. Won't they? <Maybe> Will stand-offs for
mounting the halides away from the mirror help? <Should. Do see the
manufacturer of your light fixture's recommendations for how far they
need to be away from acrylic> I love your site. It's full of a wealth
of information and a friendly & helpful community of reefers. Thanks
all! Iona <Thank you for writing. Bob Fenner>
Using mirrors in a canopy? Hi crew- I keep saying "this is my
last question", so my apologies. My canopy is ready for the lighting
to be installed. Are mirrors better than polished aluminum? << Hmmm,
maybe. Harder to bend and shape. May be easier to clean. Not sure
what I would rather use. >> Mirrors are less expensive. << Really? I
bought the reflector for my 55 gal for $10. >> I know weight is an
issue. I do not plan on taking the canopy off, except for emergencies,
etc. Would the weight of thin mirrors ( 1/8") be too much on the sides
of a 90 gallon? << Weight is an issue. Boy that is tough. I think the
main problem is getting a properly shaped set up with mirrors. >> Should
I just go with polished aluminum? Stainless steel? Mylar?? << Not
Mylar. Also, not steel. I would go polished aluminum, but I also like
seeing people try new things. So if you think you can make it go well
with mirrors, then do so. >> Thank you so much. << Blundell >>
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