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FAQs on Genus Chaetodon Butterflyfishes,
Systems
Related Articles:
Chaetodon Butterflyfishes
Related FAQs: FAQs 1,
FAQs 2, Chaetodon
Identification, Chaetodon Behavior,
Chaetodon Compatibility,
Chaetodon Selection, Chaetodon Feeding,
Chaetodon Disease, Chaetodon Reproduction,
Butterflyfish
Identification, Butterflyfish
Foods/Feeding/Nutrition, Butterflyfish
Compatibility, Butterflyfish
Behavior, Butterflyfish
Systems, Butterflyfish
Selection, Butterflyfish Disease,
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An Archetypal "Chaetodon" System:
Mmm, large... not crowded... with lots of live rock... not too many active, nor
aggressive tankmates...
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Semilarvatus butterfly
Hi...I have a quick question for you...I have a 75 gal fish only salt water
tank...it is a community tank and I am getting a semilarvatus butterfly....the
person I am getting it from has 2 and he wants to sell me both of them....my
question is can 2 of these butterflies be kept together in this size tank?
<This is one of my favorite species of fishes period... very hardy,
especially as Butterflyfishes go... Does better not kept solitarily... but does
get quite large... if these are only 3-4 inches in length, they can be kept (if
the system is otherwise uncrowded) in a seventy five gallon system for a period
of time... but will need/deserve larger quarters within the next year>
the retailer tells me they swim together and wont be a problem...I am just
looking for another opinion....I appreciate your feedback...thank you...
<Thank you for writing. Please use the search feature on WetWebMedia.com for
more input, reports on the husbandry of this species. Bob Fenner>
Raccoon butterfly
<Hello, Steven Pro "speaking". Anthony Calfo and I are helping Bob answer some of his daily questions.>
I just added a palm size raccoon butterfly to my 54gal all glass bowed front
corner aquarium. His current tankmates are 1 purple tang medium size, 1 Luna
wrasse approx. 4 inches long, 1 saddleback clown about 2" long and 1 humbug
damsel real small. Tank is reef ready with overflow in corner filled with
bio-balls and 1 unit of dick Boyd Chemipure. filter system is life-gard
mechanical, then chemical, then heater module with final pass thru 25watt
star-tronics U.V unit, water is turned over approx 10 times per hour,
lighting is 175 watt 55k metal halide pendant by Hamilton with 24" blue
actinic in fluorescent hood. Is this the max load this tank can handle
<I would probably not add any more fish as most that you have will grow fairly large.>
and
are there any special things I have to do to keep butterfly in good shape. I
have heard they are hard to keep and especially hard to keep eating.
<You can/should read up more on the care of Butterflyfish here http://www.wetwebmedia.com/raccoon.htm>
thanks in advance for the help
tom Gillis
<Best of luck,>
<Steven Pro>
Re: establishing a pair of Addis butterflies? (Red Sea Fishes)
Back to butterflies.... Been reading also about the
Falcula butterfly (true, C. Falcula). Was considering
maybe a trio of those, and a single Addis specimen,
<hmmm... some concern if there is enough room for four adult butterflies in the long term even if the two species are compatible. I'd strongly advise against mixing Chaetodon species... why tempt fate/aggression when there are so many other beautiful fishes in the sea?>
and then a red sea goby and a the red sea (4-line)
wrasse. Good or bad idea in my tank, do you think, or
is my tank just a bit too small - my feeling on this
one is that it might be a bit small, but my butterfly
experience is zero !
<you are correct my friend. Add much live rock and a well varied diet too with hope of supporting their strict nutritive demands>
Thanks, Regards, Matthew
<best regards, Anthony>
Re: establishing a pair of Addis butterflies?
Jason,
<<Howdy.>>
Thanks for the reply. I am very possibly gonna give it
a skip. <<Fair enough.>>
First things first.... the wrasse I am on about is the one that Bob recommends ...
i.e.. red sea cleaner wrasse = 4 line wrasse. <<Ahh, those damn common names always vary from place to place. Not sure that the four-line wrasse is really known for cleaning.>> I cannot find the
Latin name, but it is not of the labrid family. <<Nope, it's not... it's Pseudocheilinus tetrataenia if we are in fact talking about the same fish - more on these wrasses here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pseudocheilinus.htm
>><Is yet another species... RMF>
I have had him for a year or two now, and he's thriving :-) .....a red sea endemic I think.
Back to butterflies.... Been reading also about the Falcula butterfly (true, C.
falcula). Was considering maybe a trio of those, and a single
Addis specimen, and then a red sea goby and a the red sea (4-line)
wrasse. Good or bad idea in my tank, do you think, or is my tank just a bit too small - my feeling on this one is that it might be a bit small, but my butterfly experience is zero ! <<I'd agree that the tank is a bit small for this grouping. How about just the one Addis Butterfly... this would be fine.>>
Thanks,
Regards,
Matthew
<<Cheers, J -- >>
Tinker's Butterflyfish
Thanks so much for your help. <<No problem.>> The tank I plan to
put him in (after quarantining) is a 120 gallon. It has two black percula's, a
purple tang, a scooter blenny, and a pygmy angel. Other than that it has a lot
of live rock a few corals and lots of invertebrates. Fire shrimp, cleaners,
peppermints, etc. I know they are from deep water so If you don't mind me
asking. . .I was planning on changing over to metal halides but now I'm worried
that they might be too much light for this fish. <<Two things come to mind
there... one, this will be too bright, and two, this Butterfly will likely make
mince-meat out of your corals, which means you don't really need that much
light.>> My quarantine tank is a 20 plus gallon tank, green on three sides
and stays dark so the initial quarantine I think he'll be fine in. But do you
think the metal halides will be too much light for him when he's in the tank?
<<I think you can probably acclimate the Tinker to this lighting, but it
will take a while... and again, will probably be overkill.>> The lights
are 175 each and the plan was to hang two of them as pendants above the tank.
The tank is fed by a refugium so I think there's plenty of planktonic foods from
that source. <<Make 100% sure - this fish will require regular feedings,
and perhaps as much as two-three times a day in the beginning, perhaps later, but
do make sure this fish is getting enough to eat.>> Its really funny I
never thought I'd be able to find a
Tinker's butterfly that I could afford so its always been my "dream"
fish and now that the dream is becoming a reality I'm worried that I'm going to
give him the proper care. <<Is wise to be concerned about this.>>
For instance, I'm worried that my tank might have too much current or perhaps
not enough current. <<Which one is it? In a practical sense, it's very
hard to have too much current.>> Its powered by a Mag 1200. The refugium
is powered by a Fluval 404 canister. The tank tests out great in everything I
test for. <<What don't you test for?>> I just started adding
Kalkwasser. I don't mind loosing the corals to keep this wonderful fish alive if
that's what it takes. Ideally I'd love to have them all alive and well.
<<Well, you'd better consult with the Tinker first.>> Do you think
it would be better to get a pair of Tinkers if I can? <<Better? I'm not
sure... I would probably avoid it.>>
On a side note, Jason I wish you'd come back to the forum. Your input was well
thought out and well respected by all of us. <<While I appreciate the
invite, I've just been incredibly busy as of late trying to get Conscientious
Aquarist published and that absorbs much of my free time these days. Let's see
what happens after I get the first copy out the door.>>
Thanks again
Mac
<<Cheers, J -- >>
Chaetodon pelewensis and Prayer - Why do People Insist on Impulse-buying
Animals??? 10/25/05
First of all OH MY JESUS I LOVE THIS SITE,
<Yeeikes!>
second of all I went and bought a Chaetodon pelewensis, although it was sold it under the name "sunset
Butterflyfish". Now I didn't know it was on your hate list but I bought it
because it looked stunning, in fact seeing as it's a butterflyfish I cleared out my whole tank for it so that it's the only fish in the tank. I have no
idea what the gallon conversion system is in America (so sorry I live in England by the way, and
I'm a deliciously ignorant 15 year old)
<<Apparently it isn't just Americans who suffer poor punctuation,
grammar, etc. Can't accuse you of being a non-native English-speaker, can
we? MH>>
<You'll be just as delicious, but far more satisfied with more knowledge... there's a bit less than four liters/litres per U.S. gallon...>
but my tank's dimensions in inches are 30 x 12 x 15 so if you could be kind enough
as to tell me what its capacity is, I'd be very grateful.
<... there are about 231 cubic inches in a U.S. gallon... multiply those three numbers together, divide by 231...>
<<As well as MANY conversion programs/sites available online! We
Yanks can even convert to liters using them. MH>>
Anyway my main concern now is that I've got it, so I need to know how do I care for it, feed
it etc.
<...>
Also the concept of live rock isn't huge here in England due to the related problems of disease. Anyway
please help me, also is my tank too small?
<Yes>
I really don't want to get rid of it as I love it and it cost me £120 which I think is nearly $300 and so you can imagine my father was mortified
and there is no refund policy.
<<Well, how did you get the money/credit card?>>
Also if my tank isn't too small do you think I could add any other fishes, if so which ones?
<I would beg the stockist to allow you to exchange this fish for more suitable life... Please start reading here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/smmarsysstkgfaqs.htm
and the linked files above... Bob Fenner>
Chaetodon punctatofasciatus. Poor choice, impulse
purchase, what to do? 12/17/06
Hi Crew,
<John>
I have a problem and am wondering if I am in a jam or not. I recently was in one
of the local chain pet stores and made an impulse purchase. The fish in
question was sold to me as a dot-dash butterfly. He is currently about 3.5
inches and in perfect condition. I researched and found that I have a Chaetodon
punctatofasciatus.
<A moderately "good" aquarium species:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/Goodchaetodon.htm>
I bought it on an impulse because the store was running a special and the price
was awesome. I have been looking for a fish to add to my FOWLR because since
last month, when I upgraded my tank from a 29 gallon to a 37 gallon. Here is
the problem: My current tank is a FOWLR, 37gallon show tank (30Lx22H). The
"expert" at the pet shop, who seemed to know what he was talking about, said
that this fish should be fine in my tank. Anyway, I have the Butterfly in
quarantine now and was hoping to add him to the main tank in around 2 weeks. Now
that I have researched, I see that this fish is better in a larger tank (50
gal).
<Or larger...>
The pet store said they
will NOT take a SW fish back. (First and last time I buy there). Can this fish
be kept in the tank I have?
<Mmm, not likely well or for long... Is it intimidated... by appearances,
behavior... by its tankmates? Plans for getting a larger system? Perhaps a
trade-in elsewhere... or a local marine aquarium club...>
Thanks for everything you guys (and gals) do, it has helped a lot.
John
<Bob Fenner>
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