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FAQs on Genus Chaetodon Butterflyfishes, Disease
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collare butterfly QT – 09/19/09
Hello Wise Ones:
<Mmm, okay>
Thanks for all your great advice.? I've been a reader? for the past
year, ever since I began my recent foray into marine aquaria.?
At the end of last year I set up a 125 gallon? FOWLR system.? It houses
a 5" annularis angel,
<Will need more room... actually now>
two small Heniochus Bannerfish, and about 165 pounds of very purple live
rock with here and there a snail, a stow-away limpet, a bristle worm and
some cool red macroalgae.
Two days ago, I received a pair of 3" collare butterflies? Via FedEx.? I
did a long gradual acclimation and put them in a bare QT tank where they
began, almost immediately, to nibble on mysis and frozen brine shrimp.?
I planned on putting them through a typical two or three week
quarantine. Then, gleaning your site, specifically for anything having
to do with Collares, the advice given to "Matt" (who, like me, acquired
some Collares by mail order), baffled me. In lieu of quarantine, Matt
was told to do a pH adjusted freshwater dip and place his BFs in his
main system right away so as to avoid inflicting too much stress on
them. It was suggested that the threat of disease transmission was low
and that, probably, they would succumb to disease were they to endure a
typical? quarantine.
<Yes>
Know that I've regarded your words about quarantine as gospel.
<Not an absolute... there are exceptions in other words...>
Early on, my angel had to endure a long separation from the main tank as
it lay fallow after an outbreak of some nasty ecto-parasitic combo
platter.
<I'll have the Mac and Cheese please>
It took three months after purchase before he was finally home, noshing
on lifeline cubes and marine cuisine in the big tank.? I therefore
followed your advice to the letter when I added the Henis. Everything
went fine.?
The purple peaceful tank gets more beautiful by the day.? The Henis peck
at the live rock and steal mouthfuls of food from the spoiled angel.?
Needless to say, I? fear placing? the Collares too quickly only to end
up yanking the whole crew ten days later as I? frantically hunt for my
Cupramine and copper
test kit. Either I'm not much of a gambler,? or these incredibly
beautiful creatures have, for me, so much more value than the money they
cost.? So, could you elaborate a bit on the relative risks and benefits
of how best to proceed?
Thanks again,
Randy
<Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/quarfaqs13.htm
and the linked files above till you understand my position. Bob Fenner>
Infection? of copper banded butterfly fish
7/28/09
Hi,
<Howdy... "act excited and you'll be excited, Bob">
Thank you all for such a great site for us novices, we appreciate you.
I've checked the FAQs and the web in general but find no comments about
a white "mass" on the lower jaw of my copper banded butterfly fish. I
first thought it was food stuck on the mouth but now notice that it is
enlarging so I'm concerned about contagion and of course the health of
this fish.
<A pic?>
I called the LFS where I bought this fish and was advised to net it,
remove it from the general population and treat it with Neosporin.
<? Nah>
I asked what kind and was not advised that there is fish-specific
Neosporin. There was no suggestion about where to house this fish in the
interim but certainly I wouldn't add it back to the display tank until
it improved.
Is there hope for this fish?
<Yes>
Is his problem really a problem? If it's an infection is it likely
contagious?
<Can't tell from the data presented, but doubtful that "treating" it
will be efficacious... Perhaps this is just a transitory viral
expression... Or something else that will just "go" of its own accord.
Likely any handling,
moving would be deleterious... Perhaps the addition of a cleaner
organism would be of use... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/clnrfaqs.htm>
Thanks for "being there".
Jayne in Tucson
<Glad to share. Siaynoq! Bob Fenner>
Question about redness in Chaetodon auriga Butterfly Mr. Fenner,
<Hello> Thanks again for the great advise on purchasing the Iwaki
circulation pumps and oscillator/wavemaker for great water circulation!
<Glad the folks here could be of assistance> All of my fish are very
healthy since I bumped up the circulation in my tank. I have a 5 month
matured 180 FOWLR system, current inhabitants, 1 bi-color angel, 1
tomato clown, 1 velvet damsel, 2 Chromis, 1 Xmas wrasse and I just
purchased today a large Chaetodon auriga Butterfly. I have a question...
the Auriga is about 7 inches large in size and before I left the store
he was perfect in color, fins exceptional condition... <Seven
inches? Shame on the collector... such large specimens should be left in
the sea... they don't adapt well to captive conditions or ship well
generally> no external problems whatsoever. I arrive at home 10
minutes later , proceed to drip him for about 45 minutes with a .019
salinity, same as what 's in my hospital tank, then placed him in.
<Mmm, then why the dip?> I now see what appears to be a subtle
redness, not too much, around the mouth and fin bases. Can this be some
internal damage due to the trauma inflicted during the bagging and trip?
<Yes, or residual, partially healed damage from previous holding and
shipping> When the store salesperson scooped him in the plastic
container I noticed the fish flapped around quite hard against the glass
and he may have injured himself. I am very concerned about the redness
... is it internal bleeding? <Possibly> Will he recover from this
with good treatment , good water quality and vitamins? <Again...>
I don't want to lose him. Should I place him in my main tank since the
environment there is much better... no nitrates, temperature perfect?
Please help! <I might do so> This is a section that I read from
Wet Web Media on Auriga's Appearance.... Appearance: Reddening of
the mouth or fin bases disqualifies a prospective purchase. Due to their
sharp pointed snouts, threadfins, indeed all B/Fs need to be packed in
large bags and laid on their sides in transit. This provision reduces
the chance of damage from slamming during handling and shipping. <Not
surprisingly, I totally agree... with myself. Bob Fenner> Re:
Question about redness in Chaetodon auriga Butterfly Robert,
Will this fish recover from this with good treatment, good water quality
and vitamins? I can return him today if there's little hope. <For
such a large specimen, being caught at this size (seven inches if memory
serves), there is "little hope". Moving it will not likely serve to save
it... unless perhaps we were in Hawai'i. Then, there I would replace it
to the sea (which wholesale collectors due sometimes when a number of
organisms "breaks down" in an attempt to return them to health, redeem
themselves. Bob Fenner> New Tinker BF processing Hi
Guys or Gals, <Matt> I have a quick FOWLR questions. I am
purchasing a Tinker's Butterfly for my 250 FOWLR and Mr. Fenner once
recommended to me NOT to Quarantine my Pakistani B'flys. Should I take
the same steps with the Tinker's or should I quarantine? I always
quarantine my fish for a period of two months. But my Q tank has no
live rock which seems to be essential to the Tinker. What should I do?
<I would NOT quarantine a Tinker's... WOULD treat as stated for the
Pakistan> By the way, What do you folks think of the hardiness of
the Tinker? <It is about as solid a species of Chaetodont (as are
all subgenus Roa) as there exists> Thanks a ton and Happy Holidays,
Matt <Bob Fenner, out in HI, saw two Tinkers in pretty shallow...
about 120 feet, yesterday> |
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