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Re: Water parameters out of whack?
Bob,
<Travis>
I did the research today that you were talking about and I see why I
should not run the Carbon and Phosban (unless level are too high). Here
is the original email with the answers to your questions:
Hi all, I have been out of the hobby for about two years and decided to
make a come back. At any rate, I decided to do a SPS/Clam/Zoa tank.
So here is the issue, I added some frags SPS from a friends tank about 4
weeks ago...all dead with in a week. Their tissue sloughed away.
> > <Oh, now that doesn't sound good... This was the first life you
added to a new system?>
<The first life was the clam and the Zoas after the cycle was over>
two weeks went by and I bought a frag from a LFS, It's showing signs of
tip burn and I have had it for about 3 weeks. I bought another 4 frags
from a LFS (Idaho Grape Cap, Orange Cap, Leng Sy Cap, and a green
slimer) The caps are doing ok (Idaho grape is starting to show tissue
slough). The green slimer is starting to turn white at the base and
start to have some of the tips turn white.
> > <...>
The clam looks great, but the a few of my Zoas have closed up and
appeared to have died.
> > <What? The Zoanthids could have poisoned the Scleractinians... see
WWM re them, allelopathy>
The local reef group (salt-city.org) I am in thinks that my Alk is the
issue, but I am looking for some direction as far as where to start
because I don't think that Alk is it.
> > <... Ok>
<Don't know what you're thinking here Bob :) >
<<I am in agreement with your stmt. that "Alk is not it">>
Here are my tank parameters:
Tank is a bare bottom 120 gallon with 40 gallon sump.
<Why no substrate?>
<I wasn't totally accurate on this, I have a 5" deep sand bed in part of
my sump....there is also Marco Algae in there with a small group of
hermits and Nassarius snails for turnover. However, the display is bare
bottom (personal preference)>
<<I see>>
Skimmer: Deltec AP702
CA reactor: Geo 612 (not in use)
> > <Why?>
<I figured that I was holding a high enough level of calcium and Alk
that I could leave it off for the time being. Plus I had no test kits to
make sure that I was not over running the reactor>
<<I'd run it>>
Running Phosban and Activated carbon 24/7
><Again, why? Cnidarians need the materials these remove...>
<These have been turned off!>
<<Good>>
Lighting: 2x250 watt DE Hamilton 14k MH with Lumen Bright reflectors and
2 54watt T5 actinic for supplementation
> > <Is this much more than these were exposed to previously?>
<Previous tanks both had 400 watt bulbs on Lumen bright or Lumen Arc
reflectors...although they were 20k instead of 14k>
<<Ok>>
Circulation: 2X Tunze 6100s on a Neptune Aqua surf
Tank has been running for 3.5-4 months.
water parameters :
Temp: 79-79.3
pH: 8.11-8.23
Spec. Grav: 1.026
dKH: 12 (4.29 mEq/L)
Calcium (460-480)
> > <Too high>
<Do I let this deplete naturally?? Or can I do a few more large water
changes this weekend and the next, or quicker if needed?>
<<I would lower by dilution, precipitation through elevated
carbonate...>>
Mag: 1140
PO4: 0 (Undetectable)
> > <Needed>
<Taken Care of...>
Nitrate: 0 (Undetectable)
> > <Ditto>
<Taken Care of...>
Ammonia: 0 (Undetectable)
Top off/Make up TDS: 0-1
Salt used for water changes is half Instant Ocean half Oceanic. Last
water change was done yesterday at the advice of my local forum. I did
25% in hopes of getting the dKH reduced (my tank was at 12)...the dKH
remained the same, 12. I tested the new water prior to doing a water
change and it was at 12 dKH also.
I'm trying to solve the mystery that is causing things to die off.
> > <Understood... see the questions above? Search them on WWM. Bob
Fenner>
<thanks again, hopefully this helped a little>
<<Am hopeful as well. RMF>>
Thanks!
Travis
Suspended Matter Won't Go Away 1/19/09 Thanks for
reading my question. I want to start by apologizing for this being
so long, but I want to include as much detail as possible. <Is
easier to help with useful info.> I have been having a problem
with particulate in my sw aquarium that never seems to make it to
the sump. This has been a problem for a long time now and I have
tried tons of solutions. It started with my 65 gallon reef a few
years ago, and I have since upgraded to a aga 90 gallon. Nothing
from the 65 was reused except the lr and corals, I even bought a new
RO. The system has the following: AGA 90RR (total system vol 125
gal with sump, display refugium and frag tank) Seio 2600 wide
open (right back corner pointed to left front corner) Seio 1500
wide open (left back corner pointed to right front corner) Mag 9
return about 80% plenty of surface movement 50-150 micron
filter sock ASM G3 skimmer (150 micron sock on output) phos
and carbon reactors (carbon changed every 3 weeks) CA: 480
Alk: 9dKH PH: 8.1 Mg: 1310 Phosphate: not detected
Nitrate: not detected Ammonia: not detected Temperature:
78-81F lightly stocked with fish (md Yellow Tang, med Sailfin
Tang, 2 Chromis, Lawnmower Blenny, med Mandarin, and a small P.
clown) moderately stocked with mixed corals CUC consists of
about 20 hermits, 50 various snails, a large brittle star 30gal
RO water change every 12-14 days also it is a bare bottom 324W
T-5 lighting fish fed every 2 days, tank fed every 4 days
Things I have tried: turning off all pumps for 2 hours or so
(still see the stuff suspend in the water column) adding air
filters to all fans in canopy blowing off all rocks and doing a
50% water change very wet skimming increasing the tank flow to
6600gph decreasing flow to about 1000gph weekly vacuuming
running a 25 micron sock hard plumbing all pipes replacing
return pump (possible cavitation) Nothing I have tried has solved
the issue of this particulate, none of the inhabitants seem bothered
but the tank would look so much better with the water being clear. I
don't see anything on the water surface, and I am pretty sure it is
not micro bubbles. I have attached a pic, for all the help it is
worth. I think I covered everything, if you need more info please
don't hesitate to ask. <Mmm, a couple of items. Can you be sure
what you are seeing is not micro fauna? If you have access to a low
power microscope, look at a sample of water, it may give you a
better idea of what this is. If you dose Kalkwasser, it could be
Kalkwasser flurry. What is puzzling is that with your flow rate and
assuming that you are using an overflow, this matter is not being
trapped by your filter sock. You may want to try using a polymeric
flocculent. This will effectively bind the finest particles
together where they fall to the bottom or will enable your filter to
trap them. A couple that come to mind are Clarifier Plus and
Crystal-Clear, which are advertised as reef safe.> Thanks
again for your time, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
TheguyfromNJ |  |
Re: Suspended Matter Won't Go Away 1/20/09 Wow, that was
a fast reply. <I'm fast, but not as fast as I once was:)> I
have used binding agents in the past and have had no luck at all
with them. <OK, we will do away with that.> I do dose with
Kalk via an ATO which dumps into a 50 micron sock. (This was not on
the 65, there has to be a common link) <Agreed.> You are
the first to mention micro fauna, is it common for it to be free
floating an so abundant? <Yes, but it is unlikely in a captive
system, at least on that scale. Was just something to throw at
you, more so in getting a sample under a microscope to observe.>
How does one decrease its presence? <Generally, filter feeding
corals and such will do a decent job of keeping this down if that
were the case. A more effective way to go is UV sterilization.>
Is it possible that this is just detritus the tank is producing
quicker than the filtration and I can remove it? <Is possible,
but with good flow/filtration, this should be trapped.> I have
many friends in the hobby, and none of them experienced this or were
able to identify it. <I'm running out of suggestions/ideas also.
Bob or other crew members may have some input here.> About 8
months ago I removed everything from the tank and did a thorough
cleaning, with saltwater including blowing off all corals and LR
with a strong power head and cleaning the tank, I ran 50% of the
water through a 25 micron sock and reused it, replacing the other
50% with clean water, 2 days later the floaters were back. <Would
be frustrating. I would really suggest looking at a water sample
under a microscope. This will at least tell you whether this is
living or not.> This has been extremely frustrating, but I a not
giving up yet. <Great, and hopefully we may have other
input/experiences.> Thanks again <You're welcome. James (Salty
Dog)> THFNJ |
Tank water
is very "dusty", FOWLR maint. 1/8/09 Hello
clever crew, i am writing to you today regarding a problem i have with
my tank, that has been annoying me for the past 4 days. My tank is a 3
feet tank, i think roughly 60 or so gallons, with about 40kg of live
rock. tank has been set up for 3 months, completed the cycle and
everything is running smoothly. ammonia, nitrite readings are 0. Not
very sure about nitrates, i dun have the test kit, but i have Chaeto
growing in my tank. <Good> phosphates are 0. tank inhabitants
include a yellow wrasse, 2 true Perculas, an orange cheeked sand sifter
goby (those hovering types), 2 mated Banggai cardinals (one of them has
a mouth full of eggs), a royal Gramma and a coral beauty angelfish.
Inverts are 5 turbo snails, 2 Lysmata amboinensis, 4 blue leg hermit
crabs and some nuisance crabs in my LR. Recently, my tank has gotten
cloudy. <Unusual...> It is not a bacteria bloom or an algae
bloom, more like suspended particles floating in the water. It has been
going on for about 4 days. My livestock all seem healthy and normal,
eating like pigs. corals are opening well too. This "dusty" suspension
will settle down on my thermometer and magnetic algae cleaner, and will
cover it in a layer of very fine particles.... and when water flows past
it, it will make the water cloudy again.... My filtering system is
working as per normal for past 3 months, so is my protein skimmer. I'm
really at my wits end trying to figure this thing out, so am hoping you
will help me... It looks at though this suspension will stay with me for
awhile... have tried everything to get rid of it. Carbon, water changes,
reduced feeding... NOTHING is working =(. Someone told me it was my
liverock disintegrating... <Is...> sounds unlikely.. but im no
expert. I would really appreciate your help regarding this. I have tried
forums after forums searching for an answer. You guys are my last resort
because i know you are busy and you probably receive tons and tons of e
mails a day. Whatever the issue, i hope you guys could help me. I am
hoping that my tank will be crystal clear again like before.... Have
tried waiting this thing out for 4 days, and its time for me to take
some action. Thank you for your time! <I do think the LR
disintegrating is very likely here... through biological processes, e.g.
the crabs of nuisance you mention, and so much more. Additionally, in
"new" tanks such as yours, a good deal of "equilibrium" is reached by
the substrate dissolving... and a good deal does... just from being
freshly collected, moved around. At any length, irrespective of "cause"
I wouldn't do much to alleviate the dustiness at this point. It will
clear of its own accord, and likely in a few days to weeks... You could
use a "diatom" or other mechanical filter to help, but... just time
going by will do it. Bob Fenner> Re: dusty water
1/8/09 Thanks for replying me all the way from wherever you
are. im from Singapore! <Ahh! Was just passing through there last
month (at the fab Changi Airport)... am back in S. Cal. now, out to
Hawaii on the morrow> nice to meet u Mr. Fenner. a very well known
aquarist i am sure. Thanks for the advice and i will just try to wait it
out, although 4 days seems a bit long-ish, maybe another few more weeks
would not hurt. =) Thanks again, happy new year to you and the rest of
your divine gang. <Thank you. Again, no action or chemical addition
needed, suggested on your part... Just patience. BobF>
Re: Dusty tank 1/8/09 Will try to resist touching the
tank in the mean time >.< This hobby is addictive ya know. <Ah yes>
And yes, Changi airport is something isn't it? <The best airport
terminal in the world in my estimation> Though I'm not really fond of
it... it is supposedly "beautiful" Enjoy your time in Hawaii! Are you
diving again? <Yes... and friend, Singaporean Perry Chong has been
out t/here with me diving as well> if so, you are so lucky lols. Get
to see those fishes endemic to Hawaii...especially those sexy bandit and
potters angels! <Ahh! You know your fishes> Alright thanks for
everything! Will stop now. Time for my sleep. Will let you know if my
tank clears up in a few weeks. All help appreciated. <Thank you Y.
BobF> Re: Dusty tank in Sing., freebie Linckia HH
01/13/09 Hi Mr. Bob.F, I recently sent u an email from
Singapore, regarding my "dusty" water. Well, I was doing routine
maintenance, changing my carbon, adding some microbacteria to boost my
biological filtration, and the next day, my water became crystal clear
again!! <Ah yes... as I had told you> I have no idea what caused
this, maybe it was just a coincidence! Im so happy now. Ok, now here is
a problem. I purchased some new fully cured coralline encrusted live
rock from a LFS. When I got home, I found a blue Linckia starfish under
one of the rocks. <Wow!> Perhaps the shop keeper did not see it.
I am unsure if I should keep it or return it. I called the fish shop and
he said I could have it. I have read on your website and other places
that Linckias are very hard to keep, more than 95% perish etc etc. What
should I do now? <I would return this animal myself> It has been
doing great so far, crawling all over the tank at night, and only at
night. I never get to see it in the morning.. for some reason. How do
you advice my problem? <Return it. Bob Fenner> Still
frustrated... (water quality issues) 11/05/08 Hi Eric,
<<Hey Susan!>> I sent you a few emails about a month ago regarding
some problems that I am having with my 180 gallon marine tank. <<I
recall this>> I know that you get and read a ton of emails, so I have
copied them and attached them for reference. <<Ah yes thank you for
this>> Since the last email, I have changed from 2 daily feedings to
3-4 feedings of VERY small pinches of flake food in an attempt to
further decrease the amount of uneaten food in the tank. <<Mmm …the
small multiple feedings are good …but flake food alone isn't going to
cut it. Feedings need to include a wider variety of pelleted (New Life
Spectrum) and frozen foods as well>> I have removed the turbo upgrade
kit from my Red Sea skimmer and returned to the original setup (now
using a Rio Plus 2500 powerhead). I have still not returned to what I
consider to be an adequate amount of skimmate; <<It's possible that
this is all there is to skim. Though I do wish this were a �better�
skimmer>> I have been adjusting settings and then giving it a few
days to see what happens, then readjusting, and so on. <<And so goes
life with a crappy skimmer [grin]>> I am likely going to replace the
skimmer, <<Yay!!!>> but it's going to have to wait a month or two
due to finances. <<Understood but I will expect an update when it
happens! [big grin]>> I continue to see a few new Aiptasia each week.
<<Do give Red Sea's Aiptasia-x a try re. Wonderful stuff use it myself>>
Over the last 3 weeks I have noticed the presence of 25-30 Asterina, as
well as what appears to be 100-200 pyramid snails. <<Mmm, these
Pyramidellid snails can be problematic if you have Mollusks such as
Tridacna Clams in the system. You can find more info here, along with
possible means of removal if needed:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestsnailfaqs.htm >> I have never seen the
pyramid snails before tonight...I turned on the room light after the
tank lights had been out for about an hour and they were all over 5-6
pieces of live rock (all in close proximity). <<They've probably been
around for awhile>> I have a tennis ball - sized clump of chaeto in
my sump that continues to not grow. <<Another possible indicator that
you system can't/doesn't have any more to skim than what you are
seeing>> What appeared to be the beginning of a bad algae problem in
the display has gone away (this is the only ray of light!). <<More
indication of low organic/nutrient levels>> All of my testing
parameters are still in the same range that they were in when I sent the
original email, and I have done one 20% water change since my last
email. During the water change I worked really hard to vacuum about 75%
of the rock structure off, and used a turkey baster to blow out some of
the crevasses (found much more junk than I was expecting here!). <<Ah
yes…a good strategy for removal of accumulated detritus>> I am a bit
hesitant to blow the rocks off out of fear of accelerating the spread of
Aiptasia. <<You need to address these now (get some Aiptasia-x!)>>
I bought a new calcium test (third brand that I have used) and still got
a calcium reading of over 600 on the tank water and also on freshly
filtered water about an hour after salt is added. <<Very puzzling
have you tried a Seachem or Salifert kit as suggested?>> I am
wondering a few things. Is the sudden presence of the Asterina another
indication of excess nutrients in the system? <<No hitchhikers that
have been around all along. And from what you describe re feedings,
skimmate production, macro- and micro-alga growth I'm not convinced you
have a excess nutrient issue>> I have read various reviews on this.
Also, with regard to the little critters that appear to be some type of
pyramid snails (they are almost pure white, and I did not notice them
near any other desirable, living, edible items in my tank), might these
be the kind that can 'suck life' from other snails - might they have had
a hand in my previous sudden loss of Mexican Turbos? <<Is a
possibility>> Should I work on getting them out of the tank or are
these likely to be a harmless variety? <<I don't think any of them
are "harmless" …but review the link I gave and see what you think re
their need for removal>> I am terribly confused about the terrible
lack of growth on the part of my chaeto. I have tried various bulbs
recommended on Wet Web Media and other reputable forums without luck.
<<Again …this is likely a result of a lack of excess nutrients in the
system>> I obviously have a nutrient overload, <<What leads you to
this conclusion? The presence of the Aiptasia? …no These annoying
critters have amazing powers of adaptation and survival… once
introduced, they WILL find a way to flourish and propagate… even with
feedings of VERY small pinches of flake food.>> so what is preventing
my chaeto from growing if it has adequate lighting, flow and current?
<<A lack of available nutrients>> Lastly, there is/was some obvious
detritus buildup in my sump/refugium. <<Very common>> I have some
sponge blocks in between two of the baffles before the fuge to catch the
chunky stuff, but I am wondering if there is a better way to keep
detritus from the overflows from collecting in the fuge? <<I
actually would remove the sponges and "allow" the detritus to reach the
refugium, where it can be utilized/further processed by and to the
benefit of the desirable biota there>> I am concerned about the
well-being of my fish at this point. <<Why?>> My yellow tail
damsel was swimming along the glass at the front of the tank tonight and
this is totally out of character for him. Perhaps it was just a fluke,
<<Likely>> but now I am wondering if I should go through the
painstaking and stressing (for both me and the fish) process of
evacuating the fish to the quarantine tank (that is only 30 gallons) for
2-4 weeks until I can figure this out a bit more.... <<Susan… Figure
what out? I have read nothing in this email that would indicate any
problems other than the presence of a few pest organisms (and possible
malnutrition of your fishes re the flake only feedings)…and certainly
nothing to indicate removal of your fishes>> Thanks again for your
input...hopefully I can get this figured out and pulled out of what is
starting to feel like a downward spiral. Susan <<My friend… I need
you to be more specific as to what you think is still wrong here. The
high calcium reading could be worrisome, but based on our previous
exchanges I still think this is a fault of the test kits used, or
perhaps even your methodology re. I want to help you but I really have
nothing to go on here. Please perform a fresh set of water tests
(Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH, Calcium, Alkalinity) with quality test
kits, and get back to me with more detail for further discussion.
Regards, Eric Russell>> ORP level questions 11/4/08
Hey there Crew, I'd like to start by saying you're a tremendous help to
this hobby/addiction, without you guys my fish would be flushed many
times over by now I'm sure. <Thank you.> First of all, here is my
setup… 210g FOWRL with built in overflows, this drains down to a 55g
sump. The left half of the sump is some live rock and gracilaria, plus
all my heaters and a 55w light for nighttime growth of the gracilaria
and to help stop pH swings. Middle of the sump is my return pump, then
on the right side is my protein skimmer, an AquaC EV-240. The main tank
has two Koralia 3s and two Koralia 4s plus the return flow nozzles, so a
decent amount of flow for a FOWLR. I have some ORP level questions, I
think I'm misunderstanding something. I recently bought a Red Sea
ozonizer, the deluxe model which comes with a ozone generator, an air
dryer and a controller/probe. So this way I can read ORP levels, set a
point I don't want them to drop below, and choose a generation rate.
<Convenient.> This is introduced through the John Guest fitting on my
skimmer. My problem is that the ORP levels of my setup are reading
around 400 with no ozone being added. This is after about a month of the
ozone controller being plugged in, so levels have definitely stabilized.
I've read extensively over the FAQs on WWM dealing with ozone and ORP
levels and many other websites as well and don't want to harm my tank by
injecting ozone over the safe ORP level. However, one of my major
reasons for wanting an ozonizer is I wanted to use it as a sterilizer. I
figure rather than buy UV, I'll run an ozonizer which makes the water
nice and clear, helps nitrate control AND kills off parasites and other
undesirables that I don't want in the water. I've had some ich problems
in the past, I don't want to remove all my livestock and treat them plus
leave the tank fallow for 2 months. I'd much prefer seeing if the
ozonizer can help keep the levels of ich down. I realize it wont ever
eradicate it but it should at least help. <It can help.> Anyway,
I'm rambling… I'm trying to figure out why my ORP is so high without any
ozone even being injected? And will it hurt to inject say 5 mg/hour of
ozone even with it being at about 410 ORP reading as of right now?
<I would not, you are at the upper limit right now. Have you tried
testing different areas of your tank? Is the probe immediately
downstream of your skimmer? Do definitely try a different probe if you
can get hold of one.> That small amount should be almost negligible
on the tank's ORP level, but hopefully enough to at least damage if not
outright kill any parasites that pass through. Thoughts on that? <Not
worth it.> Will it hurt to inject a small amount of ozone even with
already high ORP levels? <It can.> I'd appreciate the advice,
thanks! <Do try different areas of your tank, different times of the
day. You should see variances therein. If not do try a different probe
or recalibrating this one. 410 is high without O3, though not unheard
of.> Grant <Welcome, Scott V.>
Saltwater Tank Problem 11/1/08 I have a 125 gallon tank
with a 55 gallon sump. I currently am running at 78 degrees and
1.022 salt. <I would raise this to 1.026 or so.> I am also
running 576 watts of PCF. I do 25 gallon water changes approximately
every week and a half and use RO water. I have attached a file that
I received from Aquarium Watertesting.com. <Neat, but do you
have your own test kits for the basics?> Most of my parameters
are pretty good I think. I do have an outbreak of brown algae on the
substrate bed and I am assuming this is due to my high silica
levels. <Possibly, it is likely you other levels would be higher
without the algae (BGA) outbreak. Oftentimes an outbreak taking
nitrate out of the water leads the aquarist to believe it is low,
when it is just being used up as produced. This is one reason to own
your test kits yourself. You can physically see if the numbers match
up with what is going on in the tank.> What can I do to rectify
this problem? <Procedures listed here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm.> Also, my yellow
tang is beginning to show signs of red on his dorsal fin along with
a white covering on his eye, are these two things related?
<Possibly, likely. See http://www.wetwebmedia.com/toxictk.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sailfindisfaqs.htm.> one of my
soft encrusting corals are also not opening, is this related?
<Both likely related to environment. Basic test kits, letting
you know what is happening with your tank now, not a day or days
later!> Thank you for your assistance. Shane <Welcome, Scott
V.> | | <<image as pdf file --SaraM,
waiting for BobF to return to figure out how to post this>> |
Re: Mushroom Problem - Additional Info/Question (coral husbandry/water
quality)-10/28/08 Water Parameters: Nitrates 0 ppm,
pH 8.2-8.4, Phosphates 0 ppm, Salinity 1.023 <Hmm... 1.025 would be
better.> Carbonate Hardness greater than 8ppm (I had limited time to
perform the test, so once it got high enough I started the test. Can
re-do tonight if necessary) I normally keep the water temp between 70-82
degrees. I placed a tower heater on the tank last night because the
temps just got to 38 here in FL. It gets pretty cold in my apartment. I
will definitely be getting a new heater tomorrow. My tank specs:
38 gallons, 700gph MAG pump, Sump w/ bioballs I also use ChemiPure,
which is currently 1 month old <I would change this.> I add
Lugol's Iodine supplement, which I added the day before I noticed the
problem I changed my light actinic several weeks ago, the blue light
is probably over 6 months old, bought the tank used. <Bulbs should
be changed every 6 months.> Hope this gives enough info. I have no
idea what might have caused the problem or what to do about it. It is a
newer tank but everything has been fine, even thriving, until now. Even
the mushrooms and sponge had been growing rapidly. Ashley
<Strange... I would raise your temp to closer to 80F, raise your
salinity a bit and possibly change the old bulbs. Did you recently
switch salt mixes by any chance? Best, Sara M.> Re:
Mushroom Problem - Additional Info/Question 10/29/08 When I
first set up my tank I used Instant Ocean, but when doing water changes
I have been using the RO Saltwater from my LFS. Haven't had a problem
until now. The mushrooms have opened up about 1/2 way today, but the
sponge is still almost white. Should I remove this or give it some more
time? I read that when they die they give off toxins. <If it's just
a little hitch-hiker sponge, I'd just wait and see.> You said I
should change my chemi pure. The box said they are good for 4-6 months
and I've only had mine in for one month. Why should I change it?
<You don't have to change it. But just fyi, the box gives you an
"average" time they "usually" last. But the media is spent whenever it
absorbs as much as it can. The time for this would vary from tank to
tank.> Maybe it was just temperature shock from the heater
breaking...I really have no idea what happened! <This is quite
possible. Perhaps the temp dropped more than you think... even if just
for an hour, sharp changes in temperature can cause a lot of damage.>
I was going to add my last fish today (possibly an angel or something).
What do you think? Any species that would work well? <Likely one of
the dwarf angels would be better... there are many pages on WWM about
them.> Also, should I be feeding the mushrooms? I switch from flakes,
to frozen vitamin enriched brine shrimp, to frozen vitamin enriched
mysis shrimp, to frozen Cyclops for the fish. Any recommendations here?
<A combination of all of the above would be good (variety is
important).> My Blue Star Leopard Wrasse looks skinny. I've only had
him for 4 weeks (2 of them he spend buried in the sand). I try to feed
him something every day, but he doesn't seem to be bulking up. He picks
from the rocks, but I fear he may already be eating everything in the
tank! Again, any recommendations? <Try New Life Spectrum Foods...>
I do not have the room for a refugium (small apartment), but I am
willing to stock my tank as often as necessary to keep him alive.
<Well, you could try live copepods and/or live baby brine shrimp.>
One last question, how do you know if a fish has internal parasites? I
read that Leopard Wrasses almost always have them when captured, and I
wanted to make sure mine did not. He is covered with the normal white
spots, but in addition has large faded-looking spots along its
back/side. Not sure if it's something to worry about, just wanted to
check. <Likely you might not be able to tell without cutting him
open (which you wouldn't want to do, obviously). If I were you, I'd
simply start experimenting with different foods and see what works. If
you're really worried about the internal parasites, again, there are
lots of pages about this on WWM if you do a search.> Thanks for all
the help! Ashley <De nada, Sara M.>
Newish SW system, yellowing 6/9/08 Hello, first I
want to say thanks for helping out people like me that love this hobby.
I have a couple of questions. i have a new 75g Oceanic with a Oceanic
20g wet/dry with bio media, and Oceanic skimmer, wave maker with four
power heads for current, MagDrive 7 for the sump, Lighting I have a
coral life double actinic 65w and double white light 65w also for
lighting 2 -48" coral life and lunar lights, I also have a pump for air
to the bio-media chamber inside the sump and an extra air hose airing
the media balls. My tank runs at temp 77-79. I've had it running for 7
days with nothing but semi live rock and the sand from my old tank.
Now my tank has a yellow brownish tint to it, I just added reef active
carbon. hope it will work. Now should i use carbon? <Mmm, yes...
likely a good idea. I take it the system is/will be pretty much
pre-cycled from moving so much of the older tanks contents> What's
wronged with my tank? <Likely just microbial/algal proliferation...>
I just bought an red sea ozoniser should I use it now or wait till
later? <I would add, turn it on> Any advise will be greatly
appreciated. what should I run the ozone at? <Perhaps a "target" of
about 325 micro-Siemens per cm... with an upper limit of 375> Thank
you GARCIA, JORGE <Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Dropped a Tiny Screw in My Saltwater Tank – 05/23/08 Hi
Eric, <<Hello Michael>> I have a problem. <<Uh oh>>
Accidentally dropped a (tiny) screw into my tank. <<Mmm, I see (I
wonder how you say “oh crap!” in Danish? [grin] >> Tried to find it,
but was unsuccessful (Actually, almost turned the tank upside down to
find it). What do I do? Please don’t tell me that I have to break down
the tank. <<Ah, not at all my friend… The “tiny screw” will very
likely pass unnoticed in your system. But for some added peace of mind;
if you aren’t already doing so, you can add a heavy-metal scavenging
media like Poly-Filter to your filtration system (I would (I do!) run
this media all the time). Thanks, Michael Fick Denmark
<<Regards, Eric Russell…South Carolina, USA>>
RE: Dropped a Tiny Screw in My Saltwater Tank – 05/24/08 Hi
Eric, <<Hello Michael>> Thanks for your reply. <<Quite
welcome>> That was a relief! <<Ah good>> So you don’t think
there will be a "Rust issue?" <<Considering the amount of metal and
the volume of water involved…no>> That was my primary concern. <<I
don’t really think you need be>> I don’t think that Poly-Filters are
available in Denmark, but I will check it out. <<Hmm…perhaps an
Internet order then…>> Thanks Eric <<My pleasure, Michael>>
P.S. The Danish translation for "oh crap!" is "Sikke noget lort!"
<<Haha! Thank you for this my friend. Eric Russell>>
High ORP Readings 5/16/08 Hi team, <Hi Dave> My ORP
readings consistently range from ~450 first thing in the morning before
the lights come on, dipping to ~425 by the end of the day. Then they
rise through the night cycle and repeat again the next day. They've been
like this for some 9+ months ever since setting up my 900l reef system.
<I little on the high side.> I've read that readings over 400 can be
dangerous but touch wood I haven't had any casualties for either fish or
inverts. Current hosts are a 4" Hippo Tang, a 4" Yellow Tang, a 3"
Potter's Angel, 2 Yellow Tailed Damsels and a cleaner shrimp. There are
2 mushroom corals, a large pulsating xenia, a small euphyllia torch
coral and 2 trachyphyllia. All are thriving in the 650 l main display
with 120kg of live rock. There is a 250 l sump/refugium that has a 6"
DSB, 20kg of live rock and an abundance of Caulerpa verticalla running
under 2 x T5 daylight tubes on reverse cycle to the display. I do
have an ozoniser which is set to come on at readings below 350 and turn
off at 400 and feeds into the venturi of my Aqua Medic skimmer. The ORB
probe is connected to this unit and the probe is submerged in the
baffles prior to the sump return chamber. With readings always over the
400 mark, this unit has rarely come on save for once when I was away on
holiday over Christmas for 3 weeks and hadn't done a water change for
several weeks. Upon return the readings were down to 320. I did a good
sized (20%) water change and the readings returned to their 400+ state.
I also have 2 x 25 UV which are in line on the output of 2 x Eheim Pro
II canister filters that contain mechanical filtration, carbon and PO4
absorbent material. These are maintained every 4 weeks at least.
Water parameters are perfect. OK just kidding :-) here they are...
Salinity 1.026 Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Temp 25C - 26C
PH 8.0 - 8.2 Calcium 450 Q. Should I be concerned with these high
ORP readings? <I'm almost certain your probe needs to be checked with
a calibration solution. Your readings should be closer to 350 in your
system. I'd really be surprised if indeed they were that high. James
(Salty Dog)> Cheers Dave
29 gallon reef not looking good. 05/10/2008 I have a problem
and I am not sure what it is. Three days ago all my corals shrunk up and
are not looking good, I need some advice. <Ok>> First of all, I
have been running this tank for years with no problems, I installed a
gate vale inline in the sump for the pump and that is when I noticed a
problem. Could there be contaminates in the valve that are causing my
tank major stress? <<Highly doubt>> Here is what I have: 29 gal
tank 30 lbs live rock with 2" sand and crushed coral bed Euro reef
skimmer Mag 5 return with CPR overflow 250 watt MH 10000K 14"
above tank Salinity 1.025 Ph 8.1 Amm/Nitite/nitrate - 0 Alk
10 dkh Ca 380 ppm <<A little low>><Hmm... not necessarily for these
types of corals. -Sara M.> Phosphate 0 Livestock - Frogspawn,
colonial polyps, mushrooms, other polyp I am not sure what it is - Coral
banded shrimp - clown fish - watchman goby. The fish seem normal even
though the goby is not as active. The shrimp seems like he is not doing
well. He is not moving and was wondering if he was going to shed his
skin and it is just coincidence. <<More info is really required.
Lighting times, feeding times, foods etc etc. How often do you water
change, and how much? Like I said everything was looking good and now
it is really hating it. Any help would be great. <<Thanks, A
Nixon>>
Good intentions, but now I'm stuck... 4/21/08 Crew, <Hello,
Scott V. with you.> Thanks so much for the great resource you've got
here! <Thank you!!> I hope I make it far enough in the hobby to
use them beyond this week! <You assuredly will.> I've been trying
to search for some answers on your site as to my particular problem, but
I didn't see any - hopefully, this is not a repost. I recently got some
live sand (20 lbs) and water in the hopes of helping to cycle my first
20g tank along. In addition to water, I also got a heater, some test
kits, a powerhead, and a filter. <What kind of filter, size?> I
kept the sand sealed in two large Ziploc bags filled with the tank
water, and brought it all home. The next day, I placed the sand into my
new aquarium with the water, envisioning a neat little micro-community.
<Any truly live sand should be added ASAP, before the bags become
anoxic.> Unfortunately, it seems things have taken a turn for the
worse. Over the last two days, I've been noticing an increasing amount
of light brownish detritus covering my sand bed, and I've noticed that
the water is starting to smell 'funny'. My test kits showed about a .5
on my ammonia (yikes!), a 3.5 ppm on my nitrite, and an alarming 200 ppm
on my nitrate - as dark as it could get. <Hmm, not good.> Water is
a decent 76F, and specific gravity is 1.025. <Good numbers.> Is
there any hope? <Oh yes.> LFS guy said I should just scrap the
whole thing and start over, but I found this advice to be a bit suspect
as he proceeded to quote me the prices on everything I would need to
"start it right this time", which came out to well over a hundred
dollars. <I feel the same way here.> Any advice would be most
appreciated! <Without knowing your filtration specifics, if the sand
was truly live, it was likely killed off by a night in the Ziploc bags.
This accounts for your high readings. Give it time, the numbers will go
down (except nitrates, need some water changes) as the tank continues to
cycle. Starting over will accomplish nothing. If anything needs to be
replaced it is the water, hardly $100! The sand can and should be rinsed
to remove any dead matter. The water quality will not ruin the filter or
tank. Wait this out before adding any livestock.> Thanks in advance,
DS <Welcome, Scott V.>
White specks 4-19-08 Hi Crew, <How goes it? Mike with you
today> Great Site, a real Godsend. <Thanks - it helps us all>
My tank is battling an infestation of a small white flake like organism
that swims around in the water and irritate the fish. I believe my fish
are stressed and flashing against rocks and the tank to relieve
themselves. Could you please recommend a course of treatment?
<Weird. Do you have a picture? Also, what are you water parameters and
inhabitants?> I have a seventy five litre tank with an Eheim
canister filter, air pump and air disk. In my battle with the "organism"
I recently removed the crushed coral as it contained multiple small
organisms in it, which I suspected may have been connected to white
flake in the water. Thank you in advance for your help, Warm Regards,
<Get back to me, but do read regarding curing marine ich...likely the
popular 'cures' to marine ich will also eliminate this parasite>
Darren <M. Maddox>
Help please my water went cloudy white, SW... BTA sucked up...
03/05/2008 Hi Crew, love your website and am learning a lot from
it ( thank you ) <<Hello, Andrew today, and thanks for the comments>>
Could you please help me with my marine tank problem? <<I'll do my
best>> Tank is 220L volume and this morning i came downstairs to find
the water in the tank had gone very cloudy white. I have since found
out what it is, believe it or not the bubble anemone had been sucked
into my 6000lph powerhead. <<Such a shame to hear this>> My
question is this, will this kill my canister filters and what do i have
to do to the water in my tank now. <<No, it wont kill your canister
filters, simply keep good water changes, and the tank will clear up soon
enough>> I have changed 20% of the water (RO) that's all i had made
up ready. The problem is i am away now for four days. The tank has now
cleared and tested the water NH4,NO2,NO3,PH salt and temperature are all
fine. <<As long as all the above tests are showing up correctly, i
would not worry about this issue, maybe just learn from it>> My fish
and feather dusters, corals and crabs seem fine also. <<This is
good>> I would be grateful if you could help me with this cloudy
water problem ( it is not cloudy now but is the water contaminated )
<<You did the right thing by attacking the issue with water changes. It
should be fine now its cleared>> Thank you so much.
Regards..........Martin Steelton <<Thanks for the questions, hope
this helps. A Nixon>>
Salinity and other water chem Q's 2-10-08 Hi gang. I love
the site. It's the best reference on the web! <Thanks - I agree> I
had a couple of questions for you. First my tank and parameters. I have
a 92 gal. corner bow, about a 30 gal. refugium, and a 30 gal. sump. I
cycled it with 100lbs. of live rock and its been up for 5 weeks.? Here's
some pics.
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I made the stand and hood. Niceeee!!! <Yes it is, it looks really
good. Nice job> Sorry, back to the subject, the water parameters.
pH is between 8.17 to 8.24 depending on time of day. SG 1.026.
alkalinity 11dkh or 3.93l. Ammonia .1 (I find it vary hard to read. I
use the LaMotte and the 0.05,and the.1 are all close variations of
yellow) I tried a dip stick, but it's not sensitive enough. Do you know
of one that might be easier to read. If this is right, I don't know why.
All I have in the tank is about 40 various snails to clean up the algae
and 2 peppermint shrimp to eat up the 6 or so pest anemones (which there
not doing! I can't even find them!) <Looks good to me, except the
ammonia obviously. There are a couple of possibilities here - that the
rock is still curing, that you don't have enough water flow, or that you
don't have enough rock. I'd be inclined to think the first one. What's
your (hopefully random, turbulent) water flow look like? Regarding the
'pest' anemones, which I'm assuming are Aiptasia or Majano, I would run
the tank 'stockless' and feed very little, while attempting to manually
remove the ones you find. These guys could be a nightmare if not taken
care of soon!> I also seem to have about 4 clams of some sort, also
on the rock. They open and close so I know there alive; could they be a
problem? <No, beneficial if anything> Nitrite 0 Nitrate 2
Carbon dioxide <7 (another hard to read LaMotte kit.) Dissolved
oxygen 6.2 low? <No> Calcium 330 Magnesium 1275 Silica 0
Phosphate .1 (I also have a phosphate reactor running. I don't know why
its still .1.) <Due to the dieoff/cycling...change your media>
Looking at this data, what jumps out at you? <Nothing, other than the
ammonia> My thoughts are (other then the ammonia) calcium is low.
<Looks fine to me...a little on the low side, but that allows for a
higher alkalinity which I prefer anyway, unless you plan on having
several Tridacnids> How would you raise it? by adding: a)
Kalkwasser (drip) b) turbo calcium (Kent) c) liquid calcium (Kent)
d) reef calcium (SeaChem) e) none of the above <Kalkwasser is
always my preferred method of calcium delivery, whether via drip, shot,
in the top off water, or via reactor> This is what I have on hand.
I have something that I don't know what they are, I have about 3 of them
in the rock. They have 8 arms that look like roots which they extend to
filter feed. They take 1 arm at a time, and put it in their mouth. It's
fascinating to watch. Here's a pic. What do you think this is? Or where
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there's two visible in/on this rock. <Looks like it could be a
Crinoid - see if you can get a clearer pic. By the way, where did your
order your live rock, and where is it from geographically? Looks like
very nice rock!> Thanks for your time and expertise. <Anytime,
get back to me about the water movement, but I'm betting your ammonia is
due to your live rock, which seems to be covered in animals, which leads
to an increase in die-off vs. less populated rock. I'm betting your
ammonia goes away given another week or so> Tony <M. Maddox>
Re: Salinity and other water chem Q's Part II 2-11-08
Thanks for the fast reply. Here's what I have for water flow. From the
sump, a blue-line 1000, pumping about 650 gal.hr. In the tank there's a
mag 18(supposedly 1800 gal/hr) in a closed loop which is built in the
hood- see pic. I also have 2 Koralia power heads. 1 is 1200 gal/hr;
the other is 600 gal/hr. see pics. <Looks good> The live rock. 50
lbs., came from http://www.gulf-view.com/prem_coraline.html It
looked like it came right out of the ocean. <Yes, it does - I've been
on reefs that didn't have rock that nice!> He sent it air freight
same day, and I picked it up at the airport as soon as it arrived,
with minimum time out of water. 80 lbs of Fiji came from Mr Marine on
e-bay, and was stripped pretty clean. I kind of scrubbed off the
Florida rock when I got it. It had some sponges on it, and I scrubbed
most of them off except this one in the pic. Since then, it has
cracked, and it looks like copepods or something are crawling in it, and
it has pitted up some. Could this be my ammonia problem?
<Possibly/partly...as I said earlier, things will be dying, especially
off of rock that populated, and IMO all will be fine given another 1-2
weeks. Patience> Should I remove it? <Only if it's obviously
dying/decaying> As for the Aiptasia, I don't see how I'm going to be
able to get them out. There's no way to cut them out. They act like they
have eyes and when ever I get close they duck for cover. I pulled out
a rock and scrubbed the spot but didn't even touch it. I may have killed
one with a turkey baster full of boiling water, but I have one in the
crux of a couple of live clams. I don't want to boil them. <Try a
syringe of "Joe's Juice" or Kalkwasser paste and inject them in the
base> What do you think of Nudibranchs? Should I get a couple, then
pass them on to others. <Berghia spp. are a possibility, but only
that. Yes, they will eat the anemones, but they'll also possibly starve
to death before they even find the anemones. It's possible to find them
tank bred online, I would purchase a few of these if that's what you
decide to do> I was hoping the peppermint shrimp were going to eat
them. Here are the pics.
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Initially, I didn't think I was getting enough flow, so I capped the
inside two flow outlets you see in the pic. <Nice job on the DIY
work, it looks good. Let me know if you still have detectable ammonia in
two weeks. M. Maddox>
Unit conversions 1/8/08 hey not to be a jerk but there are
actually 4 quarts to a gallon and two pints to a quart :) <Heeee! I
must have been drinking too many pints! Thank you for this> also
since I didn't see anything specific on the page and it might be
helpful. There are approximately: 3.8 liters per gallon 976 ml
(.976 l per quart) 2.2 lbs per kilo 231 cubic inches per gallon
a pints a pound the world around, as such a gallon is approx 8 pounds
(8.33) Celsius to Fahrenheit is 9/5(C) + 32 = F hope this is
helpful to at least some one :) Cheers <Danke. Bob Fenner>
Potassium too low, Boron too high, other possible issues....
Water Quality And Going Overboard 1/1/08 Hey WetWebMedia
folks.... <Hello Glenn> I send a water sample weekly to a lab for
testing from my 600 gallon FOWLR system. <Wowsie, pretty pricey isn't
it?> As you can see from the most recent tests, the Potassium
component (too low and dropping) seems to be an issue, while the Boron
(suspecting my salt mix is the culprit here, using Instant Ocean Reef
Crystals for the last two years) is too high. If salt mix is a/the
probable bad guy, would appreciate recommendations on alternative mix.
<You are going overboard with the lab work. Reef Crystals is one of the
better salt mixes out there. Bi-monthly 10% water changes should provide
all the essential elements needed by your inhabitants. Calcium will have
to be maintained by additives.> The magnesium component is coming
back (using supplemental addition little by little), but I do not see
any of my usual suppliers (Drs. Foster & Smith and Marine Depot)
offering a straight Potassium supplement/additive. <I don't know if
anyone sells such...Bob?><<I don't... and don't know of anyone who does
presently... this element is not often in short supply. RMF>> I don't
want to be "chasing numbers" but some of these seem to be potentially
serious problems. Or, am I concentrating on those numbers that look most
out-of-whack, while missing something more fundamental? Your general
guidance re: the apparent health/appearance of the organisms in the
system plays a part here... everything from fish to inverts is fine:
good color, vigor and appetite across the board. Some small issue with
hair algae, but hey, what's new? I do about a 75 gallon water change
regime weekly, source water comes from a 5-stage RO (no DI, no Hi-S
stage) unit. Two large Euro-Reef protein skimmers pull the crud out.
<Sounds like a good plan to me.> PS - The letters H, G, L simply are
my way of referencing High, Good or Low concentrations as a quick
overview. Water Testing Results 11/01/07 11/08/07 11/20/07 12/03/07
12/10/07 12/17/07 12/24/07 Ammonia .010 G .007 G .005 G 0.014 G .006 G
0.001 G .002 G Nitrite .007 G .007 G .006 G 0.003 G .007 G .005 G
.003 G Nitrate 2.3 G 1.2 G 1.3 G 1.7 G 1.4 G 1.4 G 1.3 G Phosphate
.10 G .11 G .25 G .24 G .26 G .26 H .02 G Silica 1.6 H .6 H 0.0 G .5
G 1.0 H 1.3 H 0.6 H Potassium 287 L 271 L 253 L 248 L 234 L 210 L
207 L Calcium 258 L 286 L 258 L 241 L 202 L 391 G 401 G Boron 5.9 G
9.8 H 13.1 H 16.7 H 11.4 H 12.1 H 13.1 H Molybdenum 0.1 G 0.1 G 0.1
G 0.1 G 0.1 G 0.1 G 0.3 H Strontium 5.2 G 4.7 L 12.1 H 10.4 G 11.8 G
5.9 G 6.7 G Magnesium 960 L 1021 L 1049 L 838 L 963 L 776 L 902 L Iodine
.03 G .01 L .01 L .03 G .02 L .05 G .06 G Copper .04 H .01 G .03 G
.01 G .02 G .02 G .02 G Alkalinity 3.96 G 4.01 G 3.36 G 4.09 G 3.89
G 3.42 G 3.03 G Salinity 1.020 1.020 1.020 1.020 1.020 1.018 1.018
pH 8.000 7.950 8.000 8.250 8.350 8.400 8.350 ORP 350 335 345 365 365
375 380 <I do not see any serious problems here at all. The
ORP/pH/alkalinity levels you have certainly attest to good water quality
in the regard that excess nutrients/dissolved waste are very low. Just
keep doing what you are doing my friend. I'm curious to know what the
fee is for one lab test. You may be wasting your money here. > Thanks
for your feedback and suggestions/recommendations/insight. <You're
welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Sincerely, Glenn Brokaw
Reef water chemistry question, reading 11/26/07
Hello, I will get right to it. I have a 125 gallon reef tank. It has
been up and running for about 4 years now with minimal problems. Until
now. Actually I am not sure if it is a problem or not. This is where you
come in. The PH level has always been about 8.4 but my alkalinity
measures at 15DKH, while my calcium levels remain low at 225. <Mmmm>
I am about 2 weeks overdue for a water change, but I am not sure if that
will do the trick. I dose calcium nightly in a 1 gallon container and
drip it into the sump (slurry method). <As... Kalk...?> I have
been doing so for a while. I only use Instant Ocean salt mix, so I don't
think that is the problem. <Actually... there have been quite a few
folks write in that they have experienced anomalies since the co. (A.S.)
sold> Is this level of Alkalinity a problem? <Can/could be, yes...
the "laid down" matrix of alkaline earths in the skeletons of
biomineralizing life in your system could well be marginalized... easily
breakable... as well as the physiologies of the life mal-affected> I
have stopped using C-balance since I noticed this high level. I have not
noticed and problems with my hammer coral or torch corals. How can I
raise my Ca level higher with causing an imbalance somewhere else? Any
suggestions or are my parameters OK?.. Happy Holidays and thank
you...John <Thanks... please peruse the articles and FAQs files
here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/maintenance/index.htm about the
ninth tray down. Bob Fenner>
Calcium Issue?...Maybe Not – 10/17/07 I have a 55G reef tank up
and running successfully for two and a half years. <<Excellent>> I
have always used the two part supplement B-Ionic on a daily basis, the
same dosage for all this time. <<Hopefully validated by testing...>>
Recently, within the last month it seems the tank has stopped using the
calcium. I mean I have stopped using the B-Ionic and the calcium has
remained at 450ppm for at least three weeks now. <<Perhaps other
environmental issues/conditions have slowed growth of your corals>> I
understand that corals go through periods when they stop using as much
calcium but does this scenario seem right to you? <<Hard to say
without much more detail about your system, water chemistry, livestock,
maintenance, etc.... But yes, is likely nothing to worry about>>
Should I continue to dose with B-Ionic or wait until the calcium levels
begin to drop? <<Don’t dose if the tank doesn’t need it...but you
make no mention of your Alkalinity here>> The tank has 0 ammonia and
nitrite. The nitrates are high at 20ppm but water changes are quickly
changing this reading. <<Ah, perhaps a clue! If you have “stepped-up”
water changes to deal with the Nitrates then this is likely what is
maintaining your Calcium level>> pH is 8.0 and steady, without the
B-Ionic. <<But is a bit low...>> The corals look healthy, perhaps
not thriving, they are not spreading at this point. <<And their
appearance, continued good health are your best indicators whether
something is truly amiss here>> But I am perplexed as to the cause of
this new chemistry. How long can a reef tank maintain pH/alkalinity and
calcium without some additional supplementation? <<A very nebulous
question as virtually every tank is different...but...many tanks, unless
very heavily stocked, are able to maintain a balance of
bio-minerals/Earth elements through simple partial water changes. If
dosing/supplementation is required, well, your test kits are your best
resource for knowing what to dose and how much...let them be your
guide>> Should I be concerned or is this a normal phenomenon? Please
Advise. Your advice is greatly appreciated. <<Continue to monitor
water parameters, ensuring “all” are in line/balance...but likely the
water changes are providing all the supplementation you need right now.
EricR>> Re: Water
parameters help! Follow-up – 6/15/07 <Hey Chris! Sorry for the
delay!> Sorry, I do weekly 30% water changes and I use Instant Ocean
salt... forgot to mention that... <Ah! That is a good practice then!> I
am currently not testing for my Calcium levels, just my nitrates,
nitrites, alkalinity, and pH... any other ideas? <Should test for Ca
periodically since you are supplementing it, but that is not really
related to the question at hand. I did forget to mention the 3rd major
means of reducing nitrate and that is by using macroalgae to utilize it.
Nitrate is fertilizer for plants. It didn't sound like you have room for
that in the setup you have, but is always worth considering. Read re
refugiums. The question is - Where are the nitrates coming from? Source
water? Test it, for sure! Feeding too much? Make sure to rinse the
frozen food before putting in tank. Maybe try feeding less often if your
fish aren't thin. And leave off the brine shrimp - not as nutritious as
the alternatives.> Should I put the sponge back in then? <The sponge
would provide mechanical filtration and provide a place for the aerobic
bacteria to convert ammonia/nitrite to nitrate. This is only a problem
if there is no anaerobic area in the tank to further break down the
nitrate. You may not be able to achieve this, so again, I think water
changes (with nitrate-free source water) is your best best. I would use
the sponge, but rinse it out frequently to avoid excess accumulation of
crud.> Also, I heard that you can take out the bio balls in one of the
back compartments and replace them with small bits of live rock... would
this help at all? <I would try this with the biggest bits you can fit.
Be careful not too take out too much of your biological filtration at
once though. Live rock is definitely preferred to bio-balls, as it has a
chance of helping with the nitrate reduction, the balls don't.> Also, I
just took out the emerald crab...<yes, he could have been a problem in
this space eventually grabbing a fish.> so the inhabitants are now
the perc, the Dottyback, and the shrimp... thanks in advance for all
of the helpful advice. <With your water change regimen this should be
working for you. I suspect your source water may be coming with
nitrates, lots are having problems with this this year it seems. Alex.>
Cloudy Water, Marine 4/16/07 Hi there, <Hello> I have
read your articles and wondered if you could come up with a solution to
a problem I am having. The water in my marine tank seems to have a
'milky' cloud that I am unable to get rid of. <Usually due to either
a bacterial bloom caused by high ammonia/nitrite or sand particles.>
I have a 110lt marine tank that is approx 4 months old. <About 29 US
Gallons I believe.> The levels of nitrate/nitrite etc are ok <define
ok> as is the ph level of 8.2 I have an Ehiem filter system that is
large enough to handle a 200lt tank and an air stone. The fish in the
tank are a trigger/clown/file/tailfin and a wrasse. <Wow, too much life
in such a small tank, my guess this is the source of the problem.> I
take out approx 15% of the tank every two weeks or so and use a buffer
to keep the levels constant. The temp. is fine as is the salt density.
Over the last 4 weeks or so the water has started to become cloudy and
looks quite 'milky'. I have tried turning off the light for a few days
and I have also added some 'cotton wool' to the filter to try and sift
out the algae to no avail. The fish 'seem' fine and happily eat
whatever I give them. Any help or thoughts would be very welcome.
Thanks David. <Too much life and probably
overfeeding is leading to poor water quality I am guessing. This
leading to a bacterial bloom which causes the cloudiness.> <Chris>
Cloudy Water, Marine Part II 4/16/07 Thanks for the
input...will cut down on the feed and see what happens. David
<Need to take a look at your stocking, ultimate cause of this problem.>
Purified water testing & trace elements Water Quality 4/8/07
Hello, <Hi Greg.> I've been testing my make-up water via a
Salifert alkalinity test kit. The water is purified via an Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals Tap Water Purifier. <A very expensive way to purify
water. An RO purifier will save you much money here.> I always get
0 dKH when testing. The thing is though, recently I got close enough to
the aerating/stored make-up water to notice a fishy stink. <Is the
water being circulated/aerated?> So I tested alkalinity and it read
0. So I'm thinking the alkalinity test obviously isn't sufficient.
<???Alkalinity has nothing to do with water purity.> I'm guessing a
TDS meter will do the trick. What is the best way to catch the purifier
before it produces anything less than perfect water? If you think a
meter is the way to go, will the Pocket TDS Meter from Marine Depot do
the trick? The reason I ask is, it seems like it might be cheaply made
@ $29.95. <Total Dissolved Solids testing is used to check the
effectiveness of RO units and I believe would also tell you the
condition of the media in your water purifier. As for the meter MD
sells, I'd ask them that question.> Also, I use a Poly Filter and
dose Seachem's Reef Builder and Reef Advantage Calcium. Should I
remove the Poly Filter for four days every time I add these to my tank?
Will the Poly Filter remove a significant amount of trace elements from
either of these two products? <No. If regular water changes are
carried out, you will replenish any lost trace elements.> I really
don't care if it removes the magnesium, strontium, etc. All I worry
about being absorbed is the calcium and alkalinity. <No worries
here.> How much, if any, will it remove from these two products?
<Would be negligible at best.> One more question. My make-up water
(for water change) only has 960 ppm of Mg. I'm shooting for 1050. I've
got Epsom salts and I'm wondering if I can just add the powder directly
to my make-up water after it's been aerated, buffered, brought to
correct spg and pH. If not, how should I do this? Dilute in purified
water and then add to make-up water? The tank's magnesium level is at
915 ppm and would like this also to be 1050 since I maintain calcium
around 350 ppm. Am I going about this in the right manner? <I would
mix the Epsom salts in a separate container and add directly to tank
when needed. As for other additives, follow manufacturers
directions. James (Salty Dog)> Take care, Greg
Water
Change 3/17/07 Hi WetWeb Media, <Hello> I was wondering,
can your water get a little cloudy even after it has cycled and if so
how long can it take to clear up? <Can but often a sign of too much
ammonia/nitrite, not a good thing.> I have been told it is just some
bacteria in the water that should clear up as the tank ages. <Yes, but
check your water parameters.> Jeff (Thanks for your quick response
on the last question) <Sure> <Chris> Re: Cloudy Water
3/19/07 Hey it's Jeff again, <Hello> Thanks for your
answer. But here's my next question, I have check the water and Ammonia
is at (0) Nitrite (0) and Nitrates are around 5.0 PPM. Do you think it
is just the tank needing to age a little bit. <Maybe, could it be small
sand particles?> Keep in mind I am not going to get any livestock until
I know 100% what the problem is. <Good> Is it possible it's just the
bacteria settling in the tank after the cycle. <The bacteria we are
trying to culture does not live in the water, only attached to
surfaces.> Also the water is not exactly cloudy it just looks like tiny
little particles are floating around. <Sounds like it might be blowing
sand or something similar.> From the front it looks clear but on the
sides you can see the particles. I'm sure it's just going to take
patience it always does with aquariums. <Yep> Thank you again for the
last few answers! Jeff <Anytime> <Chris> Alkalinity,
calcium and pH 2/18/07 Hi Everyone, I have a 72
gal FOWLR tank (with a 1" bed of live sand - aragonite) that is almost 4
months old with 2 percula clowns, a six line wrasse, a yellow tang, and
a coral beauty angel. I have a regal tang in quarantine almost ready to
join the others. The fish are very happy and healthy, but I'm not!
<!> My problem is that my alkalinity has gotten too high (6.57
meq/l), my pH hovers around 8.0 to 8.15, and my calcium level is 280ppm.
I think I know how this happened. In my quest to raise the ph, I added
Proper pH 8.2 <Mmm, this product should only be used in freshwater
settings> to excess not realizing that it was cranking up the
alkalinity. My question is this: How do I correct this situation?
<Mmm, best with time going by, regular water changes... and leaving this
product out> My plan is to do 10% water changes daily (or every
other day - I routinely do them weekly) <Good... but I'd stick with
the weekly... with pre-mixed/stored water... and 20-25%> to
gradually bring down the alkalinity using RO/DI water (with Instant
Ocean salt). This is where I get a little lost. What do I do to get pH
and calcium levels in order. My goal is pH = 8.3, calcium = 350-400
ppm, and alkalinity = 3.5 meq/l. Are these proper values for a FOWLR
system? <Yes> I'm trying to increase the coralline algae
growth on my live rock. I need a plan of attack - a recipe for success
if you will. Hope you can help. Thanks in advance. Mike. <Thank you
for writing so clearly, thoroughly... The water changes with the
Aquarium Systems salt mix, the stock, substrate you list... should "do
it"... in a few months time. Bob Fenner> High dKH 2/1/07
Hello. I appreciate the time you folks take in answering all
the questions thrown at you. I have been spending hours on your
website going through all the data. My question is this: My alkalinity
is at 20 dKH and my pH is at 8.3. If I lower my dKH to acceptable
levels (8-12 dKH), will it lower my pH below acceptable levels for a
marine aquarium? <Mmm, possibly... depending on the means utilized
to lower, and the percentages of what is involved in rendering the KH
what it is...> I believe my pH should still be stable and remain
at 8.3 considering my dKH is so high to begin with. Is this correct?
R/ Jeff <Mmm... do you have a notion, input as to the nature of
the high, too-high KH? Is this from your "starting", tap water? If so, I
would just blend in some less-solute-laden source... like RO, DI, or
RODI. Bob Fenner> No loss of life, but phosphates and ammonia
spiking even after water change, HELP! - 1/22/07 Tank
setup: 120 gal, 30 gal sump, overflow into sump, onto charcoal and
phosphate pad (phosphate pad also one in overflow because currently
having a brown algae bloom). <Caused or allowed by... what?> Pro
clear aquatic skimmer in sump, water returns to tank via two lines on
each side of the tank. System has been set up since April 06.
Various Rio pumps in tank to give flow. Calcium is reading at 440, Last
week ammonia .25, nitrate 5.0, nitrite 0, phosphate .5, PH OK. Ammonia,
phosphate has elevated lately so did 20% water change. 1 day after water
change ammonia .5, nitrate between 5 and 10 ppm, no nitrites and
phosphate is still .5. (aquarium pharmaceuticals test kits). Ammonia and
phosphate are still elevated after water change and using phosphate pad.
Using well water (no chlorine), does have trace of nitrate and
phosphate, but usually get small algae bloom and it works it’s way out
as well as when I vacuum. Tank has about 100 lbs live rock and other
rock put in at the time of setup. 1 yellow tang, 1 clown, 2 chromis, 1
mandarin, 1 dragon net, 1 coral beauty, 1 bi color Pseudochromis, 4 blue
leg crabs, 50 some odd snails (and lots of snail eggs lately (Nassarius
– I saw her at work), <Heeee! Your employ is with gastropods?>
carpet xenia, yellow star, 5 other small colonies of polyps, and 1
flaming scallop, <...> one very large (10” bristle worm I’ve
been trying to catch, ½ dozen other smaller bristles that I see). Now
the skimmer – while I was doing water change, figured I’d pull the
skimmer and clean it too. First time I took apart the skimmer and
cleaned the inside of the pump – was working fine before I pulled it.
Was some brown gunk on magnet, not too bad, put it all back together. I
lost the seal from the pump feed to the reaction chamber so I siliconed
it as I was getting huge bubbles from skimmer and it was just foaming
and pushing water out. Also siliconed from the pump to the intake
because I thought this may be another possible place for air to leak in.
Looking at the skimmer in action, don’t see anything unusual. I also
added an air restrictor on the end of the air intake. This has helped
reduce the amount of foaming, but the bubbles in the chamber are much
larger than before I took the skimmer apart and cleaned it.
<Something amiss here... likely with the air mix, or gunk in the
injector area> I’m opting to just get a new skimmer as it seems to
be pulling extra air and making huge bubbles and not really skimming,
just making foam, although the air restrictor has slowed this down
considerably (never had to used it before). Lately I have had a decent
die back of large 1/2 inch amphipods in the tank I had a LOT of
them. Would this cause an elevation in the ammonia and phosphates?
<Actually... whatever caused their loss...> I’ve also had to move my
polyps up high as yes – the amphipods are munching on them at night and
they have died back some (not touching the carpet or star corals). Will
ammonia increase when something in the tank dies? <Often so, yes>
Why didn’t the levels drop after the water change? <Likely a root
cause of trouble here IS the water... I would install, use RO for your
potable and pet-fish uses> No loss of life yet, but not sure what to
do now. Will test again tomorrow night and can do another water change
(crystal sea marine mix as always, water at 1.024), but what else
should I be looking for? <An inexpensive RO device...> I have
been feeding daily frozen brine, 2 pellets for the crabs or they attack
my snails and every three days with Chromax. This last week I’ve cut
feeding back from once a day to every other while monitoring the water.
I supplement with iodine, coral Vite and strontium and molybdenum
(Kent). I usually cut back on these after water change because the water
should have everything it needs (usually wait two weeks before
supplementing). I do a water change every 6 weeks as it is such a huge
undertaking for the size tank I have. Can you recommend a good skimmer?
<Yes... posted on WWM... likely an Aqua-C product here> If I’m
having an issue with the one I have now, don’t want another one. It was
doing well until I pulled it apart to clean it, but it is less than a
year old. How long should a skimmer last anyway? <Read my friend...
a good skimmer is a once in a life-time purchase. Read. Bob Fenner>
Re: Help water SW chemistry Thanks for the help and
reassurance. The tank is about a month old at this point. I have been
adding buffer with the calcium supplements so as not to have further
drops in pH. <Mmm, through water changes... not directly to the
system> When it starts to get to 7.8 I worry about the shrimp and
crabs. <Endeavour to understand the reasons for the reductive
behavior here... countervailing strategies for buffering...> I
plan on more corals over the next few months as the tank matures
further. <Do take your time... research...> I switched to the
Kent reactor calcium supplement since it seems to be an all in one and
has no chloride (do you have an opinion about this product). <I'd
switch to SeaChem's superior line...> So I guess I should stop
adding buffer and just watch what the pH does? <Mmm, no...> Is
there any bad effects from the very high Alk that I am currently
running. <Yes...> I plan on a 25% water change this weekend so
it should correct somewhat. <I hope so...> Oh one last thing
what do you think of the remora C skimmer.... <Is a fine product>
being a Hex tank my space is limited. Thanks again for all your help
Regards Carlos David <Have you read on WWM re calcium,
alkalinity, pH? I would... Bob Fenner> Salt Water Cloudiness
in New Setup 1/19/07 Hello, <Hi Steve> I have a 75
gallon saltwater aquarium that I have had set up for 1 month. I used a
product that is supposed to cycle the tank overnight.
<Welcome! I hope that doesn't mean you added livestock too early...>
I am running a ProClear 150 wet/dry with protein skimmer, and have added
2 damsels that were fine so I added a puffer. <Fine is a
relative term, and damsels are notoriously tough when it comes to water
conditions. You (and your system) would be best served to have a full
test kit available here, with ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and Ph tests for
starters so you know for sure instead of gauging water quality by
outward appearances of your fishies.> The brown algae started
growing everywhere and I did a water change and now have cloudy water,
almost like the filter is not filtering due to the white cloudy material
shooting into the tank. Did I do a water change to soon?
<Could be air bubbles from the salt mix, or stirred up detritus from the
sand bed? I need more info. When were fish added in relation to the
initial setup? What do you use for source water, and how do you mix it?
What are your current test values?> What to do? <Buy
a test kit or at least bring some water to be tested at your LFS.> I
have lost one damsel and the other I think will be gone in the morning
due to very rapid breathing. The puffer is still eating but not a lot
of movement. Any help would be grateful. <Suggest some reading for
you:
http://wetwebmedia.com/toxictk.htm
http://wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_3/cav3i2/marine_planning/marine_planning.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/estbiofiltmar.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marcyclefaqs.htm Remember, some of
this hobby seems very tedious. Lots of learning, and frantic searching
to fix the mistakes we *all* made/make, but it is all necessary to
become successful in the hobby. I would read the links above, and any
blue links that catch your eye on those pages. -Graham T.>
Thanks, Steve
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