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Re Powerheads/Selection... placement 10/2/09
Or should i just look at Koralia 4 (2) Where is it best to position in
tank? One at either corner?
<Joe, glad you wrote back as I mistakenly deleted your email and could
not get back with you regarding the Hydor Magnums. Here is the reply I
received from Jeremy at Premium Aquatics regarding your query if you
haven't seen it on the dailies.
"Hey James,
They are very nice pumps, and have had a great track record. The
downside to them however is that they are fairly large, and take up some
space.
They still need to be ran on either Hydor's controller, or the GHL
Profilux controller. <<referring to use with a wavemaker>>
Thanks,
Jeremy
Premium Aquatics, Inc.
www.premiumaquatics.com
317-895-9005
317-895-9395 fax"
As far as pump placement, that will be experimental, can depend on your
rockwork, etc. Initially, I would put them in opposite corners, one near
the surface and one at mid-water level. May/will have to experiment
until you observe flow/coral movement to your liking. James (Salty Dog)>
Water Movement for Debris -01/11/09 Hello Crew, Hope all is
going well. I have read that a strong enough filter in an aquarium will
provide proper water movement to keep the debris stirred up in the water
column to be drawn in to the filter. But just as a backup, if I used 2
powerheads to do this how would I position them to get the max effect on
the substrate? And in a 75 gallon tank would one powerhead be enough
with a sand bottom. Thanks for all your help. James <For this I
would suggest something that's come to be called "blasting." Every
once in awhile you take a powerhead (in your hand) and "blast" the rocks
(and to a lesser extent the surface of your sand bed). This will stir up
debris much more effectively. I have done this many times myself and
think it is a really good way to get debris into circulation. It will
cloud up your water for about a day or so, but it is a good method for
"cleaning" up the rock and everything. Best, Sara M.>
Re: Water Movement for Debris 01/13/09 Hello Sara and thanks
for the info. I have another question please on a similar topic. I have
read and been told that it is crucial that a filter on an aquarium
circulate the volume of water in the tank by at least 4 times per hour
but preferably more. If I added a powerhead or 2 does the gallons per
hour those put out count, or is the recommended ratings just apply to
the filters itself? Thanks again. James <This is going to be
mostly a matter of opinion. In the case of reef aquariums, IMO, yes, the
powerheads do "count" because they push water around the live rock,
which is a form of filtration. However, they might not "count" as much
because they're not pushing the water through a protein skimmer or any
"actual" filter. I'm sorry if this isn't very helpful of an answer, but
it's really a judgment call on your part. If your nutrients are high, or
if you otherwise think you need more filtration, then the powerheads
might help, but likely not as much as adding a protein skimmer or other
form of filtration. Best, Sara M.> Water movement
12/07/08 75 gallon, 80# of live rock, 1 tomato clown, 2
striped damsels, 1 rusty angelfish, 1 coral beauty, several Turbos and 5
or 6 small crabs. And after this last water change I notice what looks
to be a small brittle starfish clinging to a snail spewing white
matter??? <Likely a reproductive event...> I have been reading up
on water movement and want to had more too my 75 gal tank(FOWLR so far)
I have some dead spots and they have generated quite a bit of
Cyanobacteria. I have been trying to keep on top of cleaning it out when
I can. I read that when using a Tunze or Koralia stream powerheads that
a person should not exceed 15x(gph) the volume of the tank. Is that
correct? <Mmm, no... or not necessarily... Unless such currents are
literally ripping animals off their base, there can't be practically too
much circulation> If so, should I get two and then face them towards
each other at each end of the tank, or would one create enough movement?
<I'd aim one or two near the surface, "blowing" across the top, either
along one wall, or toward the distal end... this will result in the most
flow, least laminar effect/s. Bob Fenner> Nano Powerheads
and discus filters! (RMF, would you do the marine half of the question?)
12/3/08 NOW for my second question: I had a 10 gallon
tank lying around, and some of my corals in my BioCube 29 were getting
kinda big, and I had just gotten a CPR Bak Pak SR3 for the middle
chamber, so I had around 10 pounds of live rock that was back there that
were doing nothing too. SO, I made a frag tank. I have a small hood with
two 20 watt Coralife 50/50 compact fluorescents in it (4 watts per
gallon= great for soft corals, no?), <Is likely fine> and I took
out the filter media from an old 20 gallon filter and put live rock
rubble in it. <Good> SO I've got some green Ricordea, some xenia,
and some various mushrooms and polyps in there along with 2 scarlet
hermits and an Astrea snail to keep it clean. I'm using a Micro-Jet pump
to circulate the water What I'm wondering is: Can I get a Koralia Nano
powerhead for this setup? <Mmm, yes, you could> AND what are some
fish you would recommend? <Mmm, possibly some of the more hardy
gobies, blennies, Cardinalfishes...> I thought about the various
gobies, and I'll probably get one of those, but I want some sort of
active fish as well. Firefish will jump, because I had to lift the hood
several inches over the surface to prevent heat (I compensated by
placing reflectors behind the light so it still covers the tank). I was
thinking maybe an Onyx clown or a Six Lined Wrasse. <The Clown would
be better> Possibly a Royal Gramma. <A jumper also> And,
lastly, I would like to get a clam for either of my saltwater (be it the
BioCube 29 with 2 36 watt bulbs, one actinic and one 10000k, or the 10
gallon with 2 20 watt 50/50s.) What do you think? <Could be done...
with care given to (weekly) testing for biomineral, alkalinity
content... see here: http://wetwebmedia.com/tridacselfaqs.htm and the
linked files above please> Thanks! -Wes Thanks! <Welcome. Bob
Fenner> Water Movement 9/23/08 Hi Crew,
<Hello Sam.> I have a 6 year old 10 gallon setup with live rock and
sand, a penguin mini filter, 65w PC's, Candycane corals and some fish
(more than you would approve). <…You said it!> I began having
Cyano problems a few months ago. It started, I think, by my not changing
the bulbs in time. <Or finally seeing the consequence of
overstocking, as you say it.> It has improved but it is still there.
When I do a cleanup it now takes a week till it is bad instead of
overnight. I cut down feeding to once a day and I keep the lights off 2
days a week every once and a while. I have a small power head (rated
130gph) that faces the length of the tank. Would it be a good or bad
idea to place it in mid tank facing the width. <It may help, but
there are likely other fueling factors here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm.> It would probably hit
the glass and divide itself in both direction which would probably be a
lot more movement all around than what I have now. I know you guys think
it is never too much movement so I am not sure why I am asking.
<There can be too much, specifically of the laminar type:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/circmarart.htm. Again, not likely the
culprit, other factors here. > But I haven't emailed you for a while.
Thanks Sam <Welcome, Scott V.>
Re: High Nitrate, now powerhead use 7/30/08 Sorry to bother
you again, but I have another question. <OK> I have a 40 gallon
tank with 40 lbs of live rock and some LPS and softy corals. What is the
ideal powerhead size and placement for this tank? <One at each end,
opposing one another.> I have a LifeTech AP 1500 in there now (trying
to increase water flow per our last conversation). Problem is if I put
it on one end of the tank and face it towards the other it seems to make
a whirlpool effect and my Clown looks like he is having a hard time with
it, so I put it at the top in the center of my back glass and aimed it
towards the front. <You will actually want to add another, one on
each end, with the flows colliding in the middle to provide a somewhat
non laminar, random flow. This powerhead is actually only 290 gph or so,
your clown can handle it.> I know this is not optimal but it seems to
work a little better. Is this powerhead too large for my tank, will the
strong flow stress out my fish? <Nope.> I have 1 Clown and 1
Banggai Cardinal. Thanks, Devin Haney <The article below will give
you much insight on this aspect of your tank, important for your
livestock and eliminating your detritus buildup in the tank. Welcome,
Scott V.>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/circmarart.htm
Sea hares and powerheads 06/05/2008 Hi, I bought a sea hare once,
it was amazing for eating algae, however it died 1 week later as it got
stuck in the powerhead SEIO110. I've heard all sea slugs have this
problem with powerheads. Now I have another algae problem, nitrates are
0 and phosphates are 0, it all started because I didn't change the
bulbs, I did know, however algae does not die. People have told me that
the rocks probably have some phosphates and the algae is consuming it
all and so that's why there's no reading. However I want to buy a new
sea hare as I know it can solve the problem quickly, however I'm
wondering what options do I have to avoid it being killed by the
powerhead. Is there some mod I can do to the SEIO so that the sea slug
won't look after it, can I just turn it off until the sea hares eats all
the algae maybe 3-4 weeks?. Its a 175gal and the other circulation I
have is the return pump and a Tunze wavebox. <<The easiest solution
is to cover powerhead / filter apertures with coarse foam, and secure
with elastic bands or zip ties for the duration of the stay...Thanks,
hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Powerhead placement reading - 05/31/08 Hello everyone,
I have a 75 gallon tank that I'm trying to figure out placement of power
heads. <Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/pwrhdapfaqs.htm> I have
80 lbs. of live rock, built into a straight wall of rock from left to
right, in the middle of the tank. I have several softies, a maroon
clown, three green Chromis, a Firefish, <Are social animals> a
Sixline wrasse, a serpent starfish, three feather dusters and various
snails and hermit crabs. It's evenly distributed, and the wall comes up
a little over half way up the tank. I have two Hydor stage 4 powerheads,
one stage 3, and a Maxijet 1200. I have a Remora Pro protein skimmer all
the way over to the right of the tank. That is the only filtration for
the tank, so there is no other surface movement than the Remora, so I
keep the stage 3, up in the right corner of the tank, pointing up to
help ripple the surface of the water, I was told that will help with the
oxygen in the tank. I have the other three powerheads on the back of the
tank, points to the front pane of the tank. I know it's hard to
determine placement of powerheads without seeing the tank, just
wondering if you could give me some pointers. I have tried reading up on
the website, but there seems to be too many variables that come into
play. I thought telling you my situation would be my best bet. Thanks
Marc <See where you're referred above. Bob Fenner>
Re: Powerhead placement reading 6/1/08 I did read your
FAQs before writing the email. I couldn't find anyone that had a similar
situation. I wasn't looking for exact placement, as much as just some
rules of thumb. <...? These are there... I've written them...> Or
just a rough estimate of where I might place them. If you could help me
it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marc <From the corners
in the upper back, crossing toward the middle front... Bob Fenner>
Powerhead Positioning and Pulsing – 04/10/08 Hi guys.
<<Hiya, Larry>> The site and FAQs are indispensible! <<Glad
you think so!>> 90 gallon tank -- 48x18. Aquascaping is sort of a
lagoon style -- basically the rocks form a shallow C-shape with the
open end of the "c" facing front. Mixed reef, predominantly LPS. I
just upgraded to two Tunze 9055s on a multi-controller. <<I do
love Tunze’s Stream pumps>> As you know, these pumps can be set
to about 450 to 1400 gph. The controller can pulse the pumps from 30
to 100 percent and also alternate them (either turning one on at a
time or keeping one at a constant 30 percent at any one time, but
switching back and forth with the other pulsing). <<Indeed>>
My only other water flow is my return pump (about 450 to 500 gph),
which comes through a sea swirl. Complicating matters a bit, the
SeaSwirl is off-center because I have an acrylic tank and have to
work with the openings. <<Mmm, yes…I too have an acrylic tank and
don’t care for the restricted openings/access. Though in hind-sight
this could have been alleviated somewhat with more money spent>>
The Swirl is about 1/3 the way across the tank, with the 90 degree
rotating output about 7 inches from the back wall. How would you set
up the 6055s and the controller? <<Likely facing from opposing
ends>> I have them now in back rear pointed toward front center,
slightly downward on an interval. There seems to be some build up on
the sand bed (1.5"). <<Pointing them slightly “up” will help with
this…though do expect some sand movement regardless, with healthy
vigorous flow rates>> I also wonder whether this is enough flow
-- with the interval only one pump at a time is working, so
basically I have 450 to 1400 gph pulsing on each side, one at a
time, plus the return. <<If you have stocked your lagoon with
“lagoonal critters” then it is probably enough…but setting the
controller to “interval 2” will give a bit more flow as you know>>
I have two Hydor Koralia's in my garage that I could also use, but
if there's a way to make just the three devices work -- the two
Tunzes and the SeaSwirl return -- I'd prefer to avoid the clutter.
<<If your corals are responding positively, and the flow is
sufficient to avoid “dead” areas, then hold off on the additional
powerheads>> Thanks! Larry <<Happy to help. EricR>>
Set-Up/Power Head Positioning/Flow Rate 4/14/08 Hi Crew.
<Hi Larry> First question to FAQ after many years of using your
excellent site. I accidentally, originally sent this directly to Bob
(freshman mistake). Sorry. Here it is again. 90 gallon tank --
48x18. Aquascaping is sort of a lagoon style -- basically the rocks
form a shallow C-shape with the open end of the "c" facing front.
Mixed reef, predominantly LPS. I just upgraded to two Tunze 6055s
on a multi-controller. As you know, these pumps can be set to about
450 to 1400 gph. The controller can pulse the pumps from 30 to 100
percent and also alternate them (either turning one on at a time or
keeping one at a constant 30 percent at any one time, but switching
back and forth with the other pulsing). My only other water flow is
my return pump (about 450 to 500 gph), which comes through a Sea
Swirl. Complicating matters a bit, the Sea Swirl is off center
because I have an acrylic tank and have to work with the openings.
The swirl is about 1/3 the way across the tank, with the 90 degree
rotating output about 7 inches from the back wall. How would you
set up the 6055s and the controller? I have them now in back rear
pointed toward front center, slightly downward on an interval. There
seems to be some poop build up on the sand bed(1.5"); seems more of
it should be getting driven up into the water column for removal. I
also wonder whether this is enough flow -- with the interval only
one pump at a time is working, so basically I have 450 to 1400 gph
pulsing on each side, one at a time, plus the return. I think I'm
going to use some pvc or something to get the rock up out of the
sand and re-aquascape, but that's a big project and might be a
while. I have two Hydor Koralia's in my garage that I could also
use, but if there's a way to make just the three devices work -- the
two Tunzes and the Sea Swirl return -- I'd prefer to avoid the
clutter. Any suggestions for setting the controller or setting up
the SS and 6055s would be much appreciated. <Geez, why all the
question marks, not necessary unless needed. You have more than
enough flow with what you have now. If it were me, I'd alternate the
Tunze pumps and as far as flow rate adjustment and cycle time,
that's going to be something you will have to experiment with. You
may want to experiment with putting the pumps closer to the sand bed
to keep the bottom stirred up. Every tank is different and
positioning of the pumps will vary, depending on how the rock work
is set up and pump location.> Thanks! <You're welcome. James
(Salty Dog)> Larry
Re: Set-Up/Power Head Positioning/Flow Rate 4/15/08 Thanks
James/Salty. <You're welcome Larry.> Others have complained
about the question marks -- it's AOL, not me. <Crazy!> Drives
me crazy. Not sure how to make it stop. <Mmm, might want to try
removing AOL and reload.> Finally bit the bullet this weekend and
drained the tank to put the rock work up on some pvc shelves with
egg crate. I think it will help with my detritus issue. Everyone
made it ok. <Good to hear.> Thanks for the advice. I really
appreciate the help. <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Larry |
Koralia Power Heads…Are Mine Working Correctly? Do I Need More? –
02/29/08 Hi all. <<Howdy Matthew>> You have been a huge
help to me as a beginner already, <<Great!>> but I have one more
question. <<Okay>> I have a 55 gallon tank with some mushrooms,
polyps, and a leather coral along with about 50lbs of live rock and two
tank raised clownfish. I have an AquaC Remora protein skimmer and two
Hydor Koralia 1 (400ghp each) power heads. <<All good gear>> Even
though the Koralia's state that they are 400 gph each, it does not seem
to be moving that much water. <<Mmm, the “stream” generated is more
diffuse/is wider than a comparable “traditional” powerhead so it doesn’t
“feel” as strong even though it is “moving” just as much water. You can
be confident these units are doing what you have employed them to do…and
with better results/less chance of damaging livestock than with a
traditional powerhead>> I have a power filter that I can run as well
if I have to without any media in it. <<Up to you…but if used, I
would suggest at least adding some chemical media to the filter for its
added benefit to the system>> Also I have two Aquaclear 30 power
heads that I can hook up, but then I will have a lot of equipment that I
do not want in the tank. <<I see>> Is my circulation enough with
only the two Koralia #1's and the protein skimmer, or do you think I
should hook up the other powerheads and power filter. <<Were this me,
I would likely add another Koralia pump…but…what are your tank
inhabitants telling you? The condition/health/reactions of your
livestock is your best measurement of the system and its needs>>
Thanks in advance. Matthew Diethorn <<Happy to assist. Eric
Russell>>
Power Head placement and Myth? Nitrates... PLEASE HELP 01/24/2008
Hello there, <<Hello Ashley, Andrew here>> I currently have a 65
gallon tank with 2 types of filtration a Rena Xp3 filter and a Tom's
Wet/Dry Filter. I also have a 5 gallon refugium powered by a Maxi-jet
400 and 3 other power heads (600 Maxi-jet and 2 Hydor Koralia 1's).
<<All for the refugium? Or the display tank??>> Recently I purchased
a fish that wasn't what I was told. After research I realized I had to
get the fish out of my tank. To do so I had to take my live rocks and
Corals out. Once everything was accomplished and I caught the fish. I
put everything back in. Then all of a sudden it was like my system
crashed. I had to give my friend my corals to keep until I got my tank
back in order and lost some fish. I now have gotten my tank relatively
back on track. My PH, Ammonia, Nitrite and Salinity are all great;
however I can't seem to get my nitrates down. <<This will be due to
the major disturbance of the system as a whole>> I have done routine
water changes the latest dong a 40 gallon change. And I also added
100 gallons worth of Nitrate sponge. <<Give the system time to
settle, keep up with water changes, it should return to normal given
time>> Everything I read seems to contradict each other. One say
to do frequent water changes- which I've done but has no long term fix,
it only offers a quick fix. <<It is a quick fix solution, however, if
there is a source in the tank which is generating high nitrates, that
source needs to be discovered and rectified>> Another says to much
water changes kills the bacteria in your tank that eat the nitrates -
which is making me thinking about buying a bottle of liquefied bacteria
and dumping it all in my tank. <<Please don't go dumping bottled
bacteria in your system. The bacteria will generate itself again.
Patience is the key here>> And now I just read that excellent water
circulation stirs everything around so much that it kills Nitrates so to
speak. <<Water circulation itself will not kill off nitrates, only
filtration and adequate bacteria levels>> It talks about the "Turn
Rate of a Tank", how can you find the rate for a 65 gallon tank?
Currently right now after I totaled all my GPH everything in my tank
combined I put out 1862 GPH. Is that good a good amount of rate?
<<Water turn over with the reef tank is very important as it keep
detrius, food etc suspended in the water column to enable it to be
removed via filtration. Actual circulation within the a reef tank is on
average 25 x the gallonage of the tank. In this scenario, with a 65
gallon tank, your required circulation per hour should "AT LEAST" 1625
GPH (65 gallons X 25 = 1625 gph). Your combined rate of flow in the tank
is adequate in my opinion. On tanks which are heavily dominated by SPS
coral, people do tend to higher into regions of 40 and 50 x water
circulation per hour>> If it is true that the circulation can lower
nitrate levels, what type of placement of the power heads would you
suggest working with 3 power heads, a surface skimmer and an output
filter tube aprox.24 inches. Even if it's not true what you suggest to
establish a good current for a reef tank? <<Powerhead placement is
always a difficult one to comment on as every tank is different. All
your after achieving is disruptive flow with surface water agitation to
aid in gas exchange. Most tend to place powerheads opposite each other
on the ends of the tank aim in the general direction of the middle. Its
a matter of playing with placement, monitoring the system for dead spots
and adjusting as necessary>> I do a lot of researching but when I
can't come to a resolution or unsure, you're the place I turn to.
<<We all try our best here>> I truly do enjoy reading your Q & A's. I
must say after reading and going on a lot of sites, this is the one I
keep coming back to. Seriously thank you for everything you provide
to us hobbyist both beginner and experienced. Ashley Sadowski
<<and thank you for being part of the marine community. Hope the above
helps A Nixon>>
Powerheads and waste settling 01/13/2008 Hi there! <<Hello,
Andrew here>> I'll get right to point...I have 29 gallon, overflow
box, sump w/bioballs rated up to 75 gallon, Mag 5 pump running back to
tank, getting ev-120 skimmer. Every 3 days I'm getting my arm wet trying
to kick up waste particles that have settled on sand/ live rock. Do I
need powerheads to keep this stuff suspended? <<Yes you do. Adequate
flow is required for all waste particles etc to be removed either by
natural filtration or skimming>> When it's all suspended will it
travel to top of tank where overflow will suck it out? <<some will>>
What's a good submersible powerhead? <<Hydor Koralia 2 powerhead
would be great. This will give you about 600GPH water circulation. These
are a good powerhead as the give a wide dispersed flow> Any such
thing as too much flow thru tank? <<Certainly, different tank
inhabitants all require different amounts of flow>> I think I'm
already running equipment that's borderline too big for my tank. What's
the rule? <<There are no real set rules as each tank, layout, setup
is different>> <<Thanks for the questions, A Nixon>>
Tunze Help Por Favor 12/25/07 I'm attaching a pic of my 90
gal Bowfront which has two Tunze 6000 streams. Per your and others
suggestions, the streams are mounted at the top rear of the tank and
point to the center front. <A generality that can usually provide
a turbulent flow.> Circulation is great, but I have an issue
where the sand in the center front of the tank is pushed up and away
leaving a crater in the center. <This can happen, especially
with a bowfront.> Is there a better way to position these streams
so this doesn't happen? <Perhaps in the middle of the sides,
aimed at each other. It may take some experimenting on your part,
tweaking here and there, but you will find a good balance. You may
even need turn them down slightly if you have the multicontroller.>
Thanks so much, Lisa <Welcome, good luck, Scott V.> | 
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Too Much Water flow or Just too Linear? – 04/16/07 Hello,
<Hi.> I have a 36 gallon aquarium with 45 pounds of live rock, and
an SEIO 620 power head. <Okay.> This power head is awfully
strong looking, and was wondering if it is too strong for my tank.
<Will create a lot of turbid flow, and it does depend on what you are
keeping but generally it is rather difficult o have to much water
movement.> My fish swim by and they get pushed pretty far.
<...Playing I the current nothing to be concerned about really, unless
there is not where fro the to flee to rest.> I don't think my angel
is stressed, but my goby sits on top of the power head usually, where
he can see the entire tank, but he still moves around the tank, but I
believe tends to avoid the open area. <Normal behavior...even in the
wild.> Could this power head also prevent coralline algae from
growing on my rocks? <No, think about a "real" reef, the water
movement is much stronger, what you have, what we all have, is nothing
compared to this.> The power head is on the left side of the tank
and makes the flow at the very center. Also, there is a lot
of Coralline growing on the right side glass of my tank. I know the
more circulation the better, but is this one individually too strong?
<Perhaps the flow is to linear, try deflecting it my aiming it at a
wall, rock-structure or another powerhead.> Should I move it too a
different spot? <If you wish...try the above as well.> I was
thinking of adding a 2nd to place on the opposite side of the tank, but
less strong. <That would be okay, aim them at each other; offset.>
I am looking to upgrading my lighting and creating a reef, but I
must plan out everything before I get it done. <Yes patience is
good.> Thanks, <Welcome.> Joe <**AJ**>
Placement of Multiple Maxijets (Powerheads) 3-4-07 I have 3 maxi
jet 900's in my 75 gal FOWLR. Where should I place them?? <On
opposing sides of the aquarium, differing levels...in the general
direction of each other to create turbulent flow patterns. Adam J>
Powerheads SUCK! 1/16/07 Hello! <Hi!> I'm a new fish
mom and I've already got an injured baby! I have 2 small domino
damselfish (about an inch long each) and yesterday one of them got
sucked into the powerhead! <Ow...> I don't know how
long it was in there but my guess is a couple hours.
<Owww...> So when I turned the powerhead off (they often would take
cover in a cave when the powerhead was turned on and would come out when
I turned it off) I expected it to come from it's hiding place but
instead it came from the powerhead! So now it's a little bent with a
little bulge on the side that was being held by the powerhead and the
other side is a little caved in. It can swim around but it's weak and
its dorsal fins seem to be paralyzed as well as the base of its tail.
The base of the tail and dorsal fins are also white which I assume is
scale damage from the suction. I'm hoping the paralysis is temporary and
movement will come back once its recovered from the shock.
<Time will tell, but protecting the inlet from fish-ingestion would be a
wise move, eh?> This morning the side that was a bit caved in
appears to have puffed out a little more than it was yesterday, but
it seems that the fins have deteriorated a bit. Will the fins
rejuvenate? <Heal? Yes. Grow back, 50/50... or 70/30
no/yes.> Will it recover or is it going to die? What's the best
thing I can do for it? <Protect it from the powerhead...? Seriously,
any fish will benefit anytime from vitamins like what you find in Selcon
or Vita-chem. Other than that, you and your fish have learned a lesson,
and you will live to utilize it. Your Domino is tough, and may survive,
too. HTH - Graham T.> Power head positioning 1/8/06
Quick question guys, <Sure.> I installed a Red Sea WaveMaster
pro and put in a DSB 5 inches deep of sugar fine in my 55 gallon tank.
<Okay.> It is so cool, the whole tank has really come alive and
never had clearer water and better readings in the 4 years of learning
this hobby. Once cycled I will start with some simple corals.
<Sounds good.> The one little problem I'm having is I have 3,
Maxi-Jet 1200 powerheads on the wavemaker with 1 each pointed to the
middle from opposite rear corners of the tank and one running low behind
the 60 lbs of live rock. Is that the best positioning? I would
stager them a little more, maybe point them more directly at each other
to create some turbulence rather than linear flow.> I seem to get a
mini tornado in the front of the tank and its blowing sand around and
moving it to the corners of the tank, should I stagger them or shoot
them to opposite corners? Just wondering to get the best flow. <See
above> Thanks, I owe a lot of fun in this hobby to you guys.
<Thank you for such kind words.> Jeff <Adam Jackson.>
Tunzes In The Night (Night Mode For Streams) 4/18/06
Hi Mr. Fenner! <Scott F. in for Bob today!> A short one today. I
have two Tunze Stream 6100 with a Multicontroller in my 90 gal. You sure
know about the optional "night mode" gadget on the controller (flow a
bit slower at night for simulating supposedly natural calmer sea at
night because of high tide...). In another way one could argue that
night is when you need more circulation to avoid CO2 buildup. So I would
like your opinion on this. Is it really beneficial in the slightest to
use that night-mode? Thanks! Have a nice day! Dominique
<Hi Dominique! I am a big fan and user of Streams, myself. However, I
have never utilized the "Night Mode" that the 7095 controller offers. I
do like the "moon light", however! I personally have not seen any
advantage to the night mode. I agree with your assertion that there is a
greater buildup of CO2 at night, anyways. However, my real reason for
not using the "Night Mode" is related to the reliability of the pumps.
In my experience, unless you are absolutely vigilant about maintenance,
regularly shutting down the pumps or throttling them into the Night Mode
or Feeding Modes means more of a chance for calcium and gunk (that's a
technical term, of course!) that may have built up in the impellor to
prevent a re-start to the faster pulse modes. That means you'll have a
higher likelihood of hearing that dreaded alarm go off, signaling
another vinegar soak! No big deal, really, but annoying nonetheless.
Another issue I have with the "Night Mode" is that, unless you are very
careful about where you are aiming the Stream, you can end up with a
simple laminar flow blasting away (even though it's at a lower speed) at
your coral tissue all night. Just a thought. Anyways, end the end it's
your call about this mode of operation, but I have never used this mode
and have enjoyed great success with these pumps. Hope this helps!
Regards, Scott F.> Adding a Tunze Turbelle 6060 to my 125 gal reef
- 09/14/06 Hello Guys and Gals, I would like to add a Tunze 6060
to my reef but I am not sure how to place it for optimum performance.
Water flow is currently generated from 2 Fluval 802 powerheads set up at
either sides of the back wall and with a slight angle so I could bank
the flow off the front of the glass. <This is best... at an angle
downward...> I also have a 1500 gph pump in my sump that is my
return. I am not sure where to place the Tunze. I only purchased 1 for
137.00 dollars. (These babies are not cheap).. Let me know where I
should place this given my current config...See ya <Very good
powerhead/submersible pumps. Enjoy. Bob Fenner> Re: power heads
placement Hi Craig, Man! you're pretty popular nowadays
(letter from a David). I read the FAQ ( what's his problem? lol).
<Hey Jun! Yes, that's me, ever popular!> Now here's my situation, I
added 2 MaxiJet 1200 in my 90 gal tank (only using a Mag 7 for return
pump prior). My question is where would be the best placement for these
powerheads. I am adding this pumps to help me battle Cyano (increase
water flow, and use of RO water). Right now, they (MaxiJet) are position
on each side of the tank facing each other and the output (return flow)
from my Mag 7 facing the front of the tank (hope this make sense). Do
you have any suggestions on how to position these powerheads? I really
do appreciate you and the whole WWM crew for all the help you have given
us (aquarist/hobbyist). For sure, without you guy's help, my tank will
be a lot worse than it is now ......LOL. Jun <Opposing them,
perhaps at slightly different levels is good, but you may want to focus
some of the flow directly onto or into the areas containing the Cyano to
help battle it with the increased circulation. The 1200's are also good
for about 295 gph, which combined would be roughly 600 gph. For your 90,
even with the Mag 7 return, you could use from 10-20X turnover,
depending on your inhabitants, so you could easily add two more MaxiJets
(say opposing in the back and lower, and the other two higher in the
front, or in back pointing to the front. I have mine in the back corners
pointing at the front glass at an angle that gives added circulation to
a gorgonian and slightly less to a Tubipora musica next to it, ending
with a gentle current for a hammer, an anemone and some Actinodiscus.
You will likely have to experiment with placement to get it right for
everything concerned. Keep an eye on those LPS corals with soft tissues
and hard skeletons, too much current will damage them. I hope this gives
you an idea of what you want! Have Fun! Craig> Pumps and
plumbing Hi guys do have quick question. After doing some
research I am thinking about buying a CSL velocity T4 pump. Have you
heard anything about or seen these pumps in action? Good/Bad. <I
have no personal experience with this pump but everything that I have
ever heard was good. When I get my next tank, I plan to get a T4>
Last few things. I have decided that I will go with using some
powerheads in my 75 gal, mostly soft coral display. I want to plumb my
return from sump to tank this way. I want to run 1" return going to
3/4" pvc spray bar Acros the entire back of tank. The flow or drilled
holes will alternate flow going down towards the front middle and
straight across the top. Use the power heads on the sides flowing
towards each other and another powerhead at the bottom behind the
LR. See any problems or anything that can be done better? <Sounds
great to me!> Do have one last thing. What do you think of the Zoo
Med power sweep rotating power heads are they good or bad. <They
are pure trash and a total waste of money. The sweeping action will stop
in about 2 weeks. Yes I have personal experience with these. David
Dowless> Thanks Bryan Intake sponge filter on powerhead
as bio-filter I have decided to add a "quick filter" to one of my
802 powerheads in the tank, I will not clean this and it should provide
the needed biological boost, would you agree?.... <Should add
capacity, after a couple weeks to cycle....it will produce nitrates over
time (the product of it's bio-capacity). Have fun! Craig>
Powerhead placement 10/13/03 Hey! I have read through the Marine
Circulation pages, but am still leery bout my powerhead placement.
<ahhh... OK> I have a 55 gallon FOWLR tank with a 2-3" sandbed and
about 70 lbs of live rock. I basically put the live rock in the
center of the tank - some of the pieces were so large that there is
approximately 1" of clearance with the tank walls. <the sand is not
deep enough and the distance off the wall is not very generous either
IMO> Basic livestock is ~20 turbo & Trochus snails, ~15 red/blue
legged hermits, 2 Oc. Clowns, 3 damsels, one Court Jester Goby, 2
Cleaner Skunk Shrimp. I have just added the beginner coral pak from
Drs. F&S. I have a Amiracle sump rated for 150 gallon tank. Right now,
I am using the CAP2200 that came with the sump and claims to be moving
495 gph. I also have a DolphinDP270 that moves about 100 gph. With
losses, I figure I am moving about 475 gph. Your advice is to move
about 10x, so I am a little shy. I have some Maxi 900 PH and a RedSea
Wavemaster Pro that I would like to add. What is your suggestion on PH
placement? Thanks, Paul <experiment until you find yourself producing
random turbulent flow that leaves few if any dead spots in the tank for
detritus accumulation. We have no way of telling you where that is re:
rockscape and other outlet placement dynamics... a truly hands-on
determination by you. Anthony> Goin' With The Flow... Hi
Scott <Hi there!> I have my two powerheads in my tank at the top
of each corner, each of them pumping 1100l per hour I have the
facing each other causing a deflection, or are they fine this way or
should I move them lower or maybe keep one on top and one at the bottom?
<Try facing hem towards each other, so that a chaotic flow is
established...> Thanks, Ziad <Any time. Regards, Scott F>
Playing With Powerheads! I read up on your info on powerheads
and bought two AquaClear #402 powerheads that pump 270 GPH and put each
in the back corners directing the water to the front center in my 55
gal. tank. When I turned them on, the fish all took cover under the live
rock and it looked like a hurricane was in there!! What did I do wrong?
<Well, nothing, actually. You're simply seeing the results of lots of
flow directed at a relatively confined area. Better than if they are
directed right into a coral or sessile invert> They aren't hooked up
to an undergravel filter, 'cause I don't have one, is that why there was
so much force? <Well, there is no "head pressure"> I turned one
off and the fish seem more comfortable...they came out all covered with
sand. I notice that you can put a bio-ball in the intake...will that
slow down the flow a little? <I'd be concerned about doing that,
because a little piece of bioball can get sucked into the impeller, and-
well, you get the idea> Thanks Susanne R <My pleasure, Susanne.
Just play around with the orientation of the powerheads, and your
animals will enjoy the benefits of increased flow. Good luck! Regards,
Scott F.> Anemone caught in powerhead. Well even after
placing sponges on all intakes, my Rose BTA found a very small intake on
a little pump I had. << It is just a matter of time until they find
it. Don't you just hate that? I've had the same thing happen. >> I was
able to get it out and it survived. It is still inflated and still
has it's foot and color is good. The issue is I don't see it's
mouth and think it may have been torn in the accident. Will it
regenerate? << I think so. I find that anemones do recover from this.
>> It has been almost a week and although it looks healthy, I am
concerned that it has not eaten. << Well they like light as well. So in
some ways it may be eating. Most people only feed their anemones
weekly. Actually that is the good hobbyists, most people never feed
their anemones anything other than light. >> Any help you can give me
would be very much appreciated!! << Give it time, keep the pump
intakes covered. >> << Blundell >> Circulation Clarity
Hi crew, <Scott F. your Crew member tonight!> Who might be
looking at this question today? Awesome, I know everybody there is more
than fully capable of easing my mind and I thank you. I am trying to
understand something about powerhead placement and what one is trying to
achieve. I have a 38 gallon tank with two Maxijet 1200 running. I have
them positioned opposing each other, so I believe I have random
turbulent flow. The surface of the water is nicely agitated. My
question is about how to tell if I have them positioned right so I have
no dead spots. how would I know for sure? <Well, one of my favorite
ways is to throw in a pinch of frozen food and see "where it goes". A
very easy way to observe your flow patterns.> Would I see slight
movement of the sand in all areas? <That depends upon where the flow
is directed. If you have powerheads bouncing flow off of the front
glass, you will probably see some disruption of sand. Otherwise, a more
reliable method is the one I described above> Or am I mainly
concerned about moving the water and try to leave the sand still?
<That is my goal!> To me-I feel more comfortable when I see the sand
gently moving a little, but the sand eventually settles and finds a home
to sit still so its hard to see if the flow is still there. <Well,
if sand is moving and settling- you've definitely got some flow in
there. It may simply be randomized, swirling around in different areas,
broken up by rockwork, etc.> I really don't like to have to move the
powerhead nozzles all the time to know for sure. I really don't want to
get involved with a wavemaker for this small tank and I believe that I
have enough circulation in there with 15+ turnover per hour with just
the powerheads alone. I attached a little diagram showing the layout of
the PH's. Have I got it more or less correct? <As long as you don't
have laminar flow blasting the tissue off of corals, you're on the right
track!> The main reason for asking this is that I have some Diatoms
building up on the sand and glass, and with the Aqua-C remora skimmer
going (which right now is only producing white-ish foam not the dark
coffee colored stuff yet as the tank is quite young) <Give it time
and some adjusting- it will pull dark colored skimmate even in a
relatively "clean" tank...> and I want to make as extremely hard as
I can to give the diatoms and blue-green algae a loosing battle. Hope
you can help and thank you. Cheers Mike <The diatoms are
generally caused by silicate in your source water. This can best be
addressed by pre-treating your source water with an RO/DI unit with a
high silicate rejection membrane. Circulation will definitely help with
other forms of nuisance algae, but there is simply no substitute for
high water quality, both with source water and in the system. You have a
great approach here- get in the habit of performing good, routine
maintenance procedures: Keep the skimmer well adjusted, clean, and
productive, make regular water changes with quality source water, etc.
Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Tank Drilling Question, Tunze
Adaptation Thank you for your reply. <Surely> The holes in the
top of the tank will only be large enough for the mechanism the Tunze
powerhead will hang from and the cord. <Form follows function!>
What type of hole saw do I use to make the hole and do I measure and
just drill like I normally would, say for example like a doorknob? <I
would call the retailer you purchased the tank from, and see what bit
they've had success with. They have likely had a bit of trial and
error, if you know what I mean. The important part is to go nice and
slow. I have used a Dremel for this in the past.> The tank currently
has 1" of crushed see shells and about 50 lbs. of "Reef Bones". Can I
add the deep sand bed over the current substrate and use the "Reef
Bones" as a base for the live rock? <You can mix the sands to provide a
diversity, but I'd probably remove a good amount. Larger particles tend
to trap debris, which becomes a problem once it starts to be processed.>
The tank has an acrylic canopy so I thought about using 2, 175w metal
halides (55k) and 2, 96w actinic PC's. My taste in corals tends to be
of the soft variety but I do like the elegance coral and some other hard
corals. Will this lighting setup be ample? <Yes, a nice choice for the
animals kept.> Also using the bulbs I've described will the lighting
have a blue tint as that is what I prefer. <All about preference!> Thank
You for all your help and Merry Christmas to you and all the Wet Web
Media staff. <And a happy new year! Ryan>
Creating Chaos!
(Oriented Sea Swirls For Optimum Water Motion) Dear Crew,
<Scott F. your Crew Member tonight> Thanks for your help in advance,
I find your website incredibly helpful. <Thanks for the kind words!
We're proud to deliver WWM to you every day!> I did check the FAQ's
but could not find my answer. I have 3-3/4" sea swirls on a 150 gallon
tank. The outlet fittings have the ability to point up or down apprx. 30
degrees. Should they be placed up for the oxygen exchange or am I
getting enough of that when the water travels through the trapezoid and
into the sump, or downward for better circulation through out the reef.
I would really appreciate your opinion....Thanks Steve <Good
question, Steve. I am a big fan of Sea Swirls myself, and really like
them. My thinking is that the oxygen exchange will take place in the
water's journey into the sump, as you surmise. I'd prefer to orient the
outlets of the 'Swirls down into the water column, to create random
currents. Observe the swirls for a while, to make sure that they don't
kick up too much sand in the process. As long as you are getting good
air/water interchange at the surface, the Sea Swirls will do the rest.
Good luck! Regards, Scott F.> Powerheads Hi all,
<Hello, how are you?> I have a new 50 gallon tank, and just started
adding fish. I added two small clowns. The problem is that they keep on
getting "blown" all over the place by the currents that are generated by
the powerheads. I have four Powerheads on the tank one 900 two 400 and
one 500. Is it normal for them to keep getting caught up in the
currents? please help I hate to see them get pushed around. <The
amount of power heads for that tank seems to be too much. If you have
sufficient filtration, two powerheads should be enough. Good Luck.
MikeB.> Re: Sumpless Closed Loop Manifold, powerhead use
07/01/05 Bob, <Yes> Thanks for the reply. I've decided
to go with an internal powerhead. After reading many FAQs and other
forum threads, I've purchased a Tunze Stream. I went with the 6060,
which cannot use a controller, to vary output. I'm amazed it can move
more than 5 times the volume of water using less electricity than the
Maxi Jet 1200's. <A very nice product> I've directed the pump to
partially reflect off the front pane of my 75 aquarium. I'm hoping this
will spread the flow in multiple directions. <Should> Should I
run this pump 24/7 or power it off at night and run just a few maxi jets
and the return pump at night? Thanks, Glenn <I'd leave all
running continuously. Bob Fenner> Water flow in the Reef Tank
- 10/24/05 I just wanted to say thank you, to everyone. <I’ll
say “You’re Welcome!” for everyone, Hello Aaron.> I purchased 2 Tunze
stream pumps (6000's) and the multi-controller and I noticed a huge
improvement in water quality. <Yes water flow is important and the
Tunze streams definitely are first class in delivering it.> Now, I'm
wondering if I should buy 2 more, or if they are strong enough for a 180
gallon tank? <Depends on the livestock, for SPS you could definitely
benefit from one or two more. Personally I’m a HUGE fan of lots of water
flow in any kind of tank.> I'm using a Little Giant with a manifold
that splits the return, it's a LifeReef system, I believe the pump is
rated at 1400 gph at 0 head, split and traveling from the sump, I
probably see 300-400 on each side. If I added 2 more Tunze pumps (is it
ton-ze or toonz?)... <The latter I believe but don’t quote me on
it.> would that be too much? <I don’t think so, though if you
have a DSB it may be difficult to maintain with all this flow.> I
think the 6000's are 1850 gph at max flow, but the controller pulses
them, which seems to be more beneficial, am I wrong here? <No,
turbulent water flow is better than linear water flow.> If they run
full blast all the time it makes swimming a bit problematic for the
fishes. <Yes but they will adjust. Even with all that water flow its
nothing compared to the “real” reef.> I do keep some varieties of
SPS corals, and they seem ok- I was just wondering if adding 2 more
pumps would be too much? See, I figure if one pump is on at a time, and
it pulses between 60 and 100% every 2 second, then after about 15
seconds the other pump comes on, I know it's not 1850x2 but it’s really
not just 1850 either is it, because a huge volume of water is moving
towards the opposing pump as it switches on- ok, <Having pumps face
opposite each other is fine, it makes the water flow less "predictable”
and more turbulent, a good thing.> I'll stop, sorry, is 2 more too
many? <I don’t think so.> Thanks and have a good one! <You
too!.> Thanks, <You’re welcome.> Aaron <Adam J.>
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