Turbo snail diet = microalgae 12/28/06
Hello crew!
<Hi Michael, Mich with you today.>
I just started with saltwater about 3 months ago, now it seems all my time and
money is devoted to it!
<Yes, welcome to the obsession.>
Your website has proved to be an invaluable resource to my new hobby!
<A terrific tool, we hope you find it most useful.>
My question is, will turbo snails eat my coralline growth on my live rock?
<No. Urchins are known for this.>
or do they mainly stick to the looser material?
<Turbos typically graze on microalgae, often on the glass as well as the rock.>
Thank you so much for all the help you've provided me with!!
<Welcome! Glad to hear this! -Mich>
-Michael
Lighting Welk 11/19/06
I was out in Seabrook Island SC a few weeks back. My daughter was out
shelling and found about 30 Welk shells. They were all empty, or so I thought.
When I got home to the Cleveland area a day later, I went to clean the shells
she collected. I noticed that one of the smaller Whelks was not empty, and still
had the muscle in it. When we shell I always tell the kids to put these back in
the ocean. It had been out of water for over 24 hours, but I thought, why not
put it in my 25 gallon quarantine tank, just to see if it was still alive. Well
it was and is doing well three weeks later. Whelks are very interesting, and boy
do they move. I have been feeding it a piece of raw shrimp every week, and it
seems to like this, and consumes the whole piece.
Now for my questions. I have not seen much on Lighting Whelks other than they
are carnivores, and eat clams and such, Will raw shrimp work or should I try
clams from the market?
<Best to expand on the diet here>
(I worry about clams because of introducing unwanted life to my system)
<I would use frozen, defrosted meaty marine foods... likely there is a sort of
"mixed bag" of such to make into soups...>
Do they need any supplements or are their requirements similar to most snails?
<Can derive complete nutrition from their foods, water/changes>
Also is there any risk of putting the Welk in my display tank (no clams in
there) or should I leave it where it is?
Thanks for your help
<Might consume slower/sessile tankmates. Bob Fenner>
Cowries/Feeding 10/11/06
I am one of the thousands of people wondering what a Reticulated Cowry eats
(Cypraea maculata) Not 100% sure that's what these specimens are in my tank. But
are very very similar. I have done a lot of research and have come up with the
only clear conclusion being that, they do in fact eat...
<Yes, all animals need to eat.>
Are they herbivores, carnivores or omnivores?
<Most are carnivores, will eat some algae, not safe with sponges, corals,
etc. Do best with plenty
of live rock in the tank. Supplemental feedings of shrimp, clam, etc is
necessary for
their survival.>
Hopefully you can shed a little more light on the subject.
<Yes, do read here and linked files above. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mollusca.htm
If necessary I will send small pictures for identification. Logan
<James (Salty Dog)>
Queen Conch and other Critters Questions 09/13/2005
Hello Bob! <James today>
Unlike most aquarist who are into corals and fishes, I am one of those
people who keep crabs, shrimps, snails, and mantis shrimps. My problem is
nobody out there seems to know the amount of food that they are supposed to
be given and I thought you might be able to help.
(1) How often and how much feeding should Dardanus megistos Hermits who are
living in shells the size of tennis balls be given? How about large Mantis
Shrimps (3" to 5") and Boxer Crabs (3" to 5")? <I would step up the serving.
Molting is caused by the animal growing and obviously they are not. Are you
dosing iodine? This helps with the molting process.>
(2) Unlike my shrimps and smaller crabs, my 4" and 5" shame-faced crabs and
mantis have never molted. Is it possible for crabs and mantis to molt only
once a year or not at all? <Yes, as above>
(3) Lastly, I have a few Queen Conch but they don't seem to be growing. I
don't know how fast they are supposed to grow. I've heard that they will
only eat stuff that are only ground, but mine will eat stuff that are on the
LR and glass. I would like to supplement feed them, but don't know what to
give. I don't know what those people who aquaculture conch feed their
conch, but I was planning to use algae disk. <Most conches will starve to
death if not given enough food. You can try the algae disk or try Nori
(freeze dried algae) and feed in greater amounts than you have been. They
also prefer a sandy bottom. I'll run the question by Mr. Fenner pertaining
to "what aquaculture places feed conches. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks!
Re: Queen Conch and other Critters Questions 09/13/2005
Bob, any idea what aquaculture places feed conches?
Thanks, Salty
<Mmm, nope... maybe here:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-27,GGLD:en&q=aquaculture+foods+for+conches
BobF>
Flamingo Tongue Snail 6/31/05
Hi,
Thanks for the great site. I can't seem to find the answer to this
question; hopefully you can help me out. I found this beautiful snail
yesterday. I know better than to buy with out researching, but the guy
said it ate algae and I figured how much harm could a snail be ( I know-
stupid me). It looks just like the picture on your site of the spotted
Cyphoma. When you pick him up, his spots move to the inside of his
shell and his back is all off-white colored. The spots come back when he
calms down. He has the long black front and I'm pretty sure it is a
spotted Cyphoma. It doesn't eat algae, does it? Is it poisonous? The
LFS won't take it back, so what should I do with it? I currently have 2
anemones, a feather duster, a red general starfish, 5 (other) snails, a
magenta Dottyback, a velvet damsel, an orange tail damsel, three zebra
damsels, a blue damsel, a reef hermit, and a yellow-eye tang (plus about
lbs. of live rock). Will this new snail hurt any of them? If it
doesn't eat algae, what does it eat and where do I get it? I know I
brought this on myself, but I would appreciate any input you could
offer. For my own curiosity, why do his spots move? Thanks, Stacy
<Stacy, I can see why the dealer wouldn't take it back. I'm sure what you have
is a Flamingo Tongue Snail. It won't live long unless you have deep pockets to
feed it a diet of gorgonians.
I would question the dealer as to why he is selling something like this that
won't live. James (Salty Dog)>
Lightning whelk life history
I keep reading conflicting info...way too carnivorous or okay as general omnivore? I was brought back an egg case from Florida ( looks to be still viable...) and not sure if I should place in the tank...
Thanks,
Greg
<Mmm, almost exclusively feeds on bivalves in the wild: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/wildlife_habitat/education/coastal_species/l_whelk.pdf
Bob Fenner>
Cowry snails... not for aquarium use 1/25/05
Hi everyone, Long time reader first time writer.
<welcome>
I purchased two unknown snails rather irresponsibly today because they were really colorful and really cheap. Sorry- I had one weak-unplanned moment. The first one I IDed right away
when I got home-flamingo tongue($3.99).
<yikes>
He is going back to the LFS tomorrow, I don't have any gorgonians and if I did I don't think I would want him eating them.
<ah, yes... good>
The other which I can't ID has spots that resemble the flamingo tongue but the snail is snow white the spots are bright pink ($2.99) (each spot is made up of micro pink dots that are grouped together and
appear to be one pink dot) and the shell has fleshy white spikes.
<sounds like another cowry... another carnivore... likely obligate, and in need of return>
I know the flamingo tongues shell is actually covered with skin and not actually colored in the way it
appears and this snail seems the same except that the shell is more rounded instead of long, the colors are way different and the spikes are present.
<sigh, yes... another cowry that should not have been imported or purchased likely>
The snail moves fast and the foot actually extends to almost twice the length of the shell. The foot is white with pink lines that extend outward away from the center. The 'antenna' are brown.
I tried with two digital cameras to get a pic but he just comes out as a white blotch. Thanks for your help now and in the past.
Zane
<best of luck/life. Anthony>
Feeding lettuce Nudibranchs
<Hi Kerry, MacL here>
I am wondering what types of algae the lettuce nudibranch eats? <I'm quoting
here from
http://www.seaslugforum.net/display.cfm?base=elyscris&id=3863. "In choice
experiments they found that E. crispata would eat a number of species of
siphonaceous green algae including Batophora oerstedi, Bryopsis plumosa,
Halimeda spp, Penicillus spp, Caulerpa paspaloides and Caulerpa racemosa.
Jensen & Clark (1983) later showed that another species of Caulerpa, C.
verticillata (a very finely branched species, which looks a bit like a tiny
Christmas tree), is the preferred food of the juveniles of this species.">
And a second question is what kind of algae is the green film that grows on the
glass of te tanks and is this one that the nudibranch eats? <Difficult to answer
could be several different types.>
Thanks for All the info on you website It is my main source of Info in the hobby.
<so glad its been of help to you. Good luck, MacL>
Tulip snail 12/12/03
Hello... Love your website and all the questions and answers.
<thanks kindly>
Wondering if you could help me as far as I think I have a Tulip snail, large red
snail about 4 to 5 inches long, and I do not know what to feed it?.
<they are predaceous... offer meaty foods of marine origin and be careful of
letting other snails nearby... they are fair game for this snail - yikes!>
I think it ate one of my smaller snails and now he has been buried down in the
substrate for a few days.
<you can be sure of it>
How often do they require a large meal and of what kind? thanks and look forwarded
to your reply... Tony
<feeding several times weekly will be fine. Please do take the time to read
more about predatory gastropods in our wetwebmedia.com archives. Best regards,
Anthony>
Coralline and limpets (not biscuit) - 8/7/03
Bob:
Well after trying to figure out what I can't grow coralline algae in my tank, I
think I have finally identified a suspect. <Oh?> I have a few
of those odd little creatures known as limpets and according to an article by
someone
named "Steneck" http://academics.smcvt.edu/dfacey/AquaticBiology/Coastal%20Pages/Limpets.html
These things only eat coralline!! <Not necessarily true. I have a
"shield" limpet and he, so far, seems to definitely favor algae. I
have coralline growing without issue. Not say that some will and do eat
coralline, I am just defending these interesting creatures with a purpose.>
It really makes sense now because I could see little patches of coralline one
day, only to wake up the next morning to find them vanished! <Hmmm. What type
of limpet? Do you have an ID yet?>
All water parameters, Ca, dKH, etc. are all perfect - no phos, no nitrates, etc.
<Excellent!>
I guess I'll continue to let them battle it out (I refuse to attempt to remove
one of the limpets for fear of damaging him) and see who wins - right now, it's
no contest! <I really admire this decision. Coralline will grow if your
parameters are as you say- So you can enjoy these very interesting creatures for
what they are and grow coralline at a later time. A great attitude! A tip of the
bottle to ya's for being a Conscientious Marine Aquarist! -Paul>
Coralline killing snails?
<Good morning, PF here today>
To start off I just wanted to say that this site has been a big help to me so
far. <Me too, stick around long enough and you'll be talked into answering
emails too... ; ) > Here is the problem. I am losing coralline
algae but I am also getting it too. I have a 220 gallon tank. I have a
turboflotor1000 protein skimmer with a rio2100 pump, and an Amiracle maxi-reef
300 and two wavemaker powerfilters. My lighting is a custom SeaLife power
compact 6x96 watts. Water temp at 79 degrees, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia at 0.
P.H. at 8.3 Calcium is 480 DKH Phosphates are 0. I have 170 pounds of Fiji and
Tonga live rock and 100 pounds of base rock. <All sounds good> The tank
has been set up for about 7 months. After I got the typical startup algae bloom
I bought an algae control pack. Turbo snails, emerald crabs, blue leg hermit
crabs, scarlet leg crabs and star snails. After they did their deed I
got some damsels after it cycled I bought a clown fish and some more damsels.
They have been in the tank for 3 months. I was starting to get new coralline
algae growth on some of the rocks and I was happy. So as I was at the fish store
I saw a piece of Tonga loaded with coralline and stony corals so I
bought it. I acclimated it and let it be. When I woke up the next day the turbo
snails had it covered. And most of the coralline was gone. Not a happy camper at
this point. So I rechecked all my levels still ok. Went and bought another piece
of Tonga put it in and watched everywhere the turbo snails went after they were
done the rock was white. I waited until a snail was on a small piece of rock
with coralline and let him do his thing for awhile then pulled him off and
looked where he was. All of the coralline algae was gone exactly where he was
at. I know from asking and reading that snails usually do not eat coralline
right? <Ok, here's my take on it. For whatever reason, the coralline on your
new pieces is dead and/or dying. The snails are eating it off the rock because
they're opportunistic (or maybe it just tastes good). Given that you have
coralline growing elsewhere in your system, I wouldn't worry to much. Eventually
the rock will be recolonized by the coralline.> I know that I am not crazy
because my doctor tells me that I am not I am only a little disturbed
(joking) Did I get some mutant strain of turbo snails? Please please pretty
please help me.
Kenny B.
<Well Kenny, I don't think the snails are killing the coralline, just
cleaning it up. Given the coralline growing elsewhere, there should be growth on
it again. Have a nice day, PF>
Limpets and Coralline
Crew:
Well after trying to figure out what I can't grow coralline algae in my
tank, I think I have finally identified a suspect. I have a few of
those
odd little creatures known as limpets (Elephant Snail, Keyhole, etc.) and
according to an article by someone named "Steneck"
http://academics.smcvt.edu/dfacey/AquaticBiology/Coastal%20Pages/Limpets.htm
These things only eat coralline!!
It really makes sense now because I could see little patches of coralline
one day, only to wake up the next morning to find them vanished!
All water parameters, Ca, dKH, etc. are all perfect - no phos, no nitrates,
etc.
I guess I'll continue to let them battle it out (I refuse to attempt to
remove one of the limpets for fear of damaging him) and see who wins - right
now, it's no contest!
You agree that this is possible?
<Definitely. These are voracious grazers.
Best, Chris>
Spider Shell Munchies
Hi again
<Hello>
Would a Lambis attack macroalgae (Halimeda, Penicillus, Caulerpa) or
corallines, and what sessile invertebrates would be at risk?
<Might eat macro's... Most Strombids are mainly algivores. Though can/do eat
bivalves, fish carrion in the wild and culture. Bob Fenner>
Thanks
Flamingo Tongue Cowry
Sorry to bother you but I have another question regarding Flamingo Tongue Snails. My supplier tells me they eat only Gorgonia and I have some in my
tank.
<that is correct... and they should never be imported for this reason. Unless you have
developed a technique for growing their prey gorgonians species faster that they can eat it>
However, after introducing six snails and the Gorgonia all of the snails promptly wandered off the Gorgonia and seem to be grazing contentedly
on algae and other food sources in the tank.
<they are definitely starving to death. This is an age old observation and problem. Just because a snail, fish, etc is eating an alternate food in captivity doesn't mean it is surviving on it. They are dying of a dietary deficiency. It may take weeks... some even
hang in for months... but slow starvation is inevitable here. I am honestly deeply saddened that yet more have been imported. Were these sent along as freebies with an order of livestock from an Atlantic supplier or were they ordered deliberately?>
The question is, are they going to survive or am I just being fooled and they will soon starve to death.
<the latter... this has been observed by aquarists for 30 years!!!>
They seem to be OK without the Gorgonia.
<based on what, my friend? We cannot see that they are gaining or losing mass/muscle tissue so to speak. By virtue of the fact that they are still moving? :)>
Thanks for the help. Don Tope
<best regards, Anthony>
Re: Flamingo Tongue cowries
Thanks for the response. I was aware of the possibilities you mention in your response but wanted to confirm my suspicions. I did not think that the
mere fact of movement was proof of a satisfactory situation for the organisms, hence my query.
<understood and agreed my friend>
I, like you, do not wish to waste life and that is why I asked the questions I did. Would you suggest that I keep using
Gorgonia (I can try to keep it - Can obtain more if necessary).
<hmmm.. at this point it gets a bit discriminating. Some personal decisions here. We are discussing the
aquarium display of one not-easily-renewable resource (captively) with another (the slow growing gorgonians). If you were studying the mollusks with a purpose (scientific report, breeding study/programs, etc) I'd feel comfortable with using the gorgonians as fodder. For a merely aesthetic display, however... I'd cut your losses early. No more snails or gorgonians. The problem is compounded by the fact that these cowries eat an aposymbiotic gorgonian that is very difficult to keep alive in captivity. And other hardy gorgonians are not
eaten/accepted readily. Alas, neither the host or parasite belong in captivity with most aquarists.>
Again, I do not want to waste Gorgonia if it is a virtual certainty that it cannot be
kept alive and as a replenishing food source for the snails. Thanks for your attention.
<exactly... with kind regards, Anthony>
Don Tope
What do Tiger Cowry's eat?
Is there a resource where I can look up things like this?
>>
Of the two hundred or so mollusks that are cowries (family Cypraeidae)... most feeding habits are unknown... For Cypraea tigris, small ones don't need to be specifically fed... larger specimens are predators and detritivores... and readily accept bits of fish flesh, mussel, pelleted dried-prepared foods (placed near them)... You might start with the Baensch Marine Atlases as a good, solid invertebrate reference.
Bob Fenner, who has hunted for Cypraeids a few places in the world.
Astrea snails and coralline algae
Greeting and Salutations Bob or Anthony,
<I'll take the salutation, and raise you a "whassup?", Anthony>
Quick question for the experts: I just added some nice cured LR to my system with some beautiful purple
coralline algae growth. This morning I noticed one of my Astrea snails "sitting" on top of the
coralline on the rock. Will these little guys eat the good (translate: pretty) algae or will they restrict themselves to the green stuff?
<they will only eat microalgae and they favor diatoms (brown algae)>
Thanks so much for all the time and quality you guys put into WWM. I hope you're raking in crazy loot with the advertisers otherwise
I'm sure there would be many willing to pay a small subscription fee!
<actually the wine, roman parties and dancing girls nightly are payment enough>
PS-Anthony--didn't realize you were from the 'burgh, me too! Any recs. as to places for good quality live stock/LR around here? take care my friend.
<Adam...too cool. Yes, reasonably good stores... what part of the city are you from? Perhaps your best networking might be through our local marine society. We take frequent road trips (subsidized by the club) to the best regional stores within a 6 hr drive! We also have great speakers like Bob Fenner and Eric Borneman annually just to name a few. Do look us up at www.pmas.org or contact me if you'd like more info. I hope to meet you someday, bud. Kindly, Anthony>