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FAQs on the Flowerhorn Cichlid Behavior
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Flowerhorn colour
queries – 11/10/09
Hi WWM Crew
<Hello,>
I am having a Flowerhorn about 4 inches from tip to toe. I would like to
ask you that does keeping a mirror in the tank for about 2 hours help in
giving a Flowerhorn good colours.
<A mirror will not do this. All a mirror will do is annoy the fish.>
Further my Flowerhorn is not that red coloured.
<These are hybrid fish and there is much variation. Genetics is the
single biggest factor. Most Flowerhorn cichlids are farmed and the
colours will not necessarily be very good. You may be lucky... or you
may not! You get the best colours from keeping water quality and water
chemistry optimal. A diet rich in algae and crustaceans also helps. But
understand this: with Flowerhorn cichlids, there is nothing, NOTHING,
you can do to make the fish more colourful than its genes will allow.
Talk about mirrors, special "magic" foods, and so on is all rubbish.>
Shall I keep a white aquarium light or keeping a Hitachi fluorescent tube
will help in growth of the colours of Flowerhorn.
<Strong lighting makes fish "fade" their colours. Add floating plants to
produce shade. Use a dark substrate as well. Don't use a colourful
substrate.>
Secondly is it mandatory to keep the heater in the Flowerhorn tank or
these fishes can be raised without heater also.
<Must have a heater. Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/FHParrotCichArtNeale.htm
Cheers, Neale.>
Aggressive Flowerhorn 10/7/09
Hi WWM Crew! This is the most helpful site I've ever visited so far when
it comes to Flowerhorn fish! Great job!
<Kind of you to say so.>
I'm Steve from Philippines, and I have a few questions regarding my FH.
First, I bought my FH about few days ago and it's about 4 inches with
its head now starting to develop its hump, can anyone please give an
idea even just for the estimated age of my FH for its size?
<Likely 6 months old. Obviously, you cannot sex them at this size, so
your fish might be a girl, might be a boy. Juvenile Flowerhorn cichlids
look *exactly* the same. Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/FHParrotCichArtNeale.htm
>
and secondly, I want my FH to be very aggressive but for every time that
i went home from work, I always found it just on the corner of the tank.
<Sounds scared. Does it have a cave? Is the tank big enough? Is water
quality good? Flowerhorn cichlids need, at minimum, a 55 gallon tank and
realistically a 75 gallon tank. The filter should be mature and rated at
not less than 6 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour (i.e.,
for a 75 gallon tank, the filter would be rated at 450 gallons per hour.
Water chemistry should be hard and basic (10+ degrees dH, pH 7-8). Like
all cichlids, they appreciate floating plants, and a cave (such as a
flowerpot) will be needed for the fish to feel secure.>
What I'm doing now is to put a mirror beside the tank for a about an
hour at least twice a day (morning and evening) and it keeps on trying
to get it out of his sight.
<Then remove the mirror. Why stress the fish?>
What I've read is that it only not helps the FH to develop its head but
also helps him to be more aggressive.
<This is nonsense. The hump grows depending on genes. How aggressive the
fish is makes NO DIFFERENCE. Why would it? Think about this
scientifically for a few seconds. If I became more aggressive, would my
secondary male characteristics become more enhanced? Would my beard grow
faster? Would my voice get deeper? Of course not. I suppose this idea
came from the same "box of crazy ideas" from whence the idea Flowerhorn
cichlids bring good luck to their owners. They don't. They're just
hybrid cichlids, nothing special or magical.>
My other question is what kind of fish do I have to put in the tank with
him in order for him to be more aggressive?
<None. You cannot keep other fish with Flowerhorn cichlids, and you DO
NOT want to make him more aggressive. There's no point, and it would
only stress your poor fish.>
They said that you can put a parrot fish with him so he can practice
fighting with that fish since parrot fish doesn't fight back.
<Flowerhorn cichlids can (and will) kill Blood Parrot cichlids.>
Please help me which of the things I've said will be more effective in
order for my FH to be more aggressive.
<Why...? Why...?>
Thanks in advance to all you guys! More power WWM.
<Thank you.>
God Bless!..
<If there is a God, I'm not sure he/she would be wild about the idea of
keeping animals for the sake of making them stressed and angry. Think
about what you're doing. Give your Flowerhorn a good home and treat him
well.
Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Aggressive Flowerhorn 10/8/09
Great!! Thank you so much Neale, you cleared up my mind from all that
crazy ideas!..
<Then my work here is done...>
More power WWM and God bless WWM Crews. -Steve
<Thank you for your kind words. Good luck, Neale.>
Flowerhorn cichlid (small tank, lack of growth) 9/23/09
heh
<Heh?>
i have been having a flower horn for 5 months but it still is very
small......about 10 cm.
<For a five-month old Flowerhorn that isn't a bad size. In fact, it will
likely take between one and two years for a Flowerhorn to reach full
size.>
when i bought it it was around 6 cm. my tank is 3feet long
<Your tank is too small. Cichlids grow best when given optimal water
conditions. In particular, nitrate has a very pronounced impact on their
health and growth rate. While cichlids don't become stunted in small
tanks,
other issues such as Hexamita infections can cause overall poor health,
and this can indeed slow down their growth rate. Flowerhorn cichlids
reach an adult size of at least 30 cm/12 inches, and such fish need
aquaria
measuring 210 l/55 gallons. You also need to be providing hard, basic
water (aim for 10+ degrees dH, pH 7.5 to 8). Water quality must be
excellent, zero ammonia, zero nitrite, and nitrate levels below 20 mg/l.
A middling temperature of 25 degrees C/77 degrees F is also important.
If the water is too warm, then oxygenation of the water becomes an
issue, and if the water is too cold, their immune response weakens. They
are much like other Central American cichlids, so reviewing the needs of
those fish will be informative.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_1/central.htm
Since Flowerhorn cichlids are hybrids, there are no certainties over
what colours or final size a particular juvenile will acquire. To some
degree "you get what you pay for" and juveniles from good parents, which
are likely to become good fish themselves, will be expensive (at least
in those parts of the world where Flowerhorn cichlids are popular).
Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Flowerhorn cichlid (small tank, lack of growth) –
09/25/09
Feeder Fish
Can I feed live fish to my Flowerhorn?
<In the wild, fish eat each other all the time. In the aquarium, this is
not such a good idea. Feeder goldfish, minnows, guppies shiners,
etc...are raised in very poor conditions and usually are heavily
infested with parasites. When these fish are introduced to your aquarium
they then can make your Flowerhorn sick. I would first feed your
Flowerhorn a very high quality pellet food. In the mean time set up a
quarantine tank. Put the feeders in the quarantine tank and treat
accordingly. When the fish are parasite free for two weeks then offer
them as an occasional feeder as a "treat". Feed the feeders a very high
quality flake food. This makes the feeders more nutritious too.-Chuck>
My FH wish to hiding
7/30/09
hi dear Crew
I have an male FH with about 15cm length
1 month ago I bought him, he was very active in seller's tank but since
he came to my tank , he wishes to be hide. please help me to make him
aggressor, what do I do?
<Flowerhorn Cichlids are large fish, and the most common reason they
become shy is that the aquarium is too small. Flowerhorn cichlids will
need a tank at least 210 litres/55 gallons in size. They also need good
water quality and the right water chemistry. You need 0 ammonia and 0
nitrite, and the nitrate should be less than 20 mg/l. Water chemistry
needs to be hard and alkaline. Aim for pH 7.5 to 8, general hardness 10+
degrees dH. Water temperature should be middling, around 25 C/77 F. So,
check that you are providing the right conditions. Diet should be
varied.
While good quality pellets are important (e.g., Hikari Cichlid Gold)
they also need some invertebrates and plant material to ensure
sufficient fibre.
Small snails, brine shrimp, earthworms, and cooked peas are all good. Do
not ever feed them live fish! This is very risky because of fat,
thiaminase, and parasites. Flowerhorns are best kept singly, and do not
mix
well with other fish. Cheers, Neale.>
Flower Horn Behaviour 7/23/09
Hello, a little background first before my question. My setup at this
moment is a 55GL tank with a pair of FH, natural gravel, caves, hiding
places, PH is stable at 7.5, their sizes are 7" the male and 5" the
female,
they have laid eggs and successfully hatched them twice, their diet is
Hikari Gold, Spectrum and dry shrimp. I have had several Flowerhorns
besides this successful pair which display their normal behaviour ( lip
locking,
chasing each other, tail slapping, etc, etc.) and this pair are not the
exception. They are not separated and they never had.
<Do keep your eyes on them... not hard for real damage to be done...>
But there is a particular behaviour that I have not been able to find a
why in any forum and I wanted to see if I'm the only one that seem to
experience this or there is other FH owners that have had this happened
to
them and that is, " every time I do a 30% water change, which I do every
week, along with the filter and gravel cleaning their aggressive
behaviour tours each other is so intense that I think their going to
kill each other" this only happens with water changes and all water
changes ,no exceptions.
Can anybody tell me why could this be happening.
Sincerely
Manny Vivero
<I am guessing that the water change triggers something similar in their
"natural behavioral regimen" re spawning... and that the extremeness you
are observing is intensified by their being so proximal; in such small
quarters. Again, I would either keep them separated except during
planned spawns, or at least put them in a larger setting (six foot
instead of the present four foot). Bob Fenner>
problem with my FH
Skittish Cichlids 5/10/09
Hi, I recently bought a 3 inch Flowerhorn which I have kept along with a
pair of 3 inch green terrors. They are doing quite fine together and do
not seem to be fighting at all. I also have a pair of 1 1/2 inch blue
morphs which seem to be dominating the 3 inch green terrors!!!!!!!
The problem I am having is that the terrors were always scared of me and
used to go into hiding as soon as I came near the tank. Now the FH
follows them every time they go hide and so I don't get to see any of
them. What do
you suggest I do?
< The fish are startled by sudden movements and seek refuge because they
think you are a predator. Add some dither fish like barbs or Danios so
they add some movement to the tank but won't be eaten by the cichlids.>
Secondly, I read in one of your threads that a FH gets its hump when it
reaches 8 inches or so but recently I visited a shop where they were
selling a 2 inch FH with an amazing hump and it was priced at 3000
Indian rupees!
How is this possible? Thanks, Samuel
<This is not a natural occurrence and could be a mutation thus the
rather high price. Since this fish does not exist in nature it doesn't
surprise me that hormones and chemicals can alter the morphology of
young fish at any age. If someone pays the price then that will
encourage more of these fish to be produced.-Chuck>
Re: Ask a question... FH beh. 5/1/09
my Flowerhorn is about 3 inches. may i know how old it is?
<A few months, perhaps 6 months? Difficult to say without knowing things
like water temperature, diet and water quality since these factors
affect growth rate. Genetics plays a role, too, and male cichlids tend
to grow faster than females. Cheers, Neale.>
Ask a question... NNS, FH... beh. 5/2/09
hey my Flowerhorn is about 2.5 inches long and probably 6 months old.
will it have exactly the same colour pattern when it grows big? at the
moment it doesn't seem to have a lot of red colour. Thanks
$and£ep
<Flowerhorn cichlids are hybrids, and that means it's very difficult to
predict anything much about them. Colours do vary a great deal,
particularly among the less expensive fish. The best you can do is
provide optimal water quality; the right water chemistry; a varied diet
that contains both algae and crustaceans; and an environment with a
dark-coloured substrate and plenty of shade. All of these factors will
improve the colours of your fish. Cheers, Neale.>
Flowerhorn growth and survival rate??? 1/8/09
I am a master student of fishery, and now I have a thesis in the title of
"comparing growth and survival rates of Flowerhorn fingerling by feeding on
different ratios of earthworm, Artemia and artificial feed" I want some
information about Flowerhorns. I wanna know if I wanna use the combination of
these feed (earthworm, Artemia and artificial feed) what is the best ratio of
these three feed to have the maximum growth speed of this fish???my fish is 1
gram and I should observe its growth for 2 month. I want these information for
these 2 months I would be glad if you give me information about speed of growth
in these 2 months for each of these feed separately, I should have a diagram of
its growth in these 2 months for each of these feed and for the combination
of them (4 diagram)?? tanxxxxxxx
<Hello. We all "want information" but unfortunately the only way to earn
your Masters Degree is to actually do the work yourself. I got my PhD the
traditional way, by doing experiments and collecting data. I suggest you do the
same for your MSc. What I suggest you do is run an experiment across two months
with a sufficiently large number of juvenile fish that your results will be
statistically significant. Feed each fish a specific combinations of foods, and
then measure its growth rate. After two months, you will have precisely the data
you need. You can compare the growth rates of the 10 fish fed one combination
against 10 fish fed another combination. Lo and behold, the science will be
done! Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Flowerhorn growth and survival rate???
01/09/09 hi you are right but here in my country it is
very difficult to find this fish tanx for your guidelines <You can't get
Flowerhorns in your part of the world? No great loss! There are plenty of
alternatives among the Cichlidae, with Convict Cichlids in particular being very
well suited to laboratory work. Have been widely used in labs for 60+ years.
Much literature on them, both scientific and hobbyist. Edible cichlid species,
particularly Tilapiines, are also much used in labs, and much written about. You
might look around your part of the world for native cichlids: most work on
cichlids has concentrated on the African and American species, but the
Madagascan, Levantine, Iranian, and South Asian species are interesting and not
at all well studied. This would make them great subjects for MSc or PhD
research, where originality is everything. Cheers, Neale.>
Flowerhorn being aggressive - 12/06/08 Dear Sir, <Big
Z> My 4 inch Flowerhorn is at times being too aggressive and at times too
shy. <What they do> what might b the problem...he just starts swimming
aggressively here and there and bumps his head on the tank whenever sum1
<...> moves around. he even broke the thermometer in the tank and keeps on
pushing the oxygen pipe. further he eats less now a days but is still healthy...
Regards, Zolwala <Is the nature of this cross really... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/flowerhornbehfaq.htm and the linked
files above. Bob Fenner>
Juvenile Flowerhorns peculiar behaviour 9/14/08
Flower Horns Lost Their Color
Hi ,I've been reading your website for a few days trying to find a solution for
my problem. A couple weeks back I bought a couple of juvenile flower horns (2.5
inch each) from my LFS. He assured me that 1 was a male & the other a female.
They were both pearl silver/grey with black markings, and neither had a hump.
When I brought them home, I placed them in my 30 gallon tank with a divider in
between.
My tank has dark red gravel & no other decorations. The tank has no background &
is next to the window where there is indirect sunlight all day. Immediately both
of them turned dark brown/grey in color. There is good filtration and I do
weekly 20-25% water changes.
I feed them regularly with flakes, blood worms, etc. They are active but the
color is not changing back. On 1 of them the colour is a lighter shade of brown
now but not the original pearl silver grey. Another peculiar thing I've noticed
is that they are behaving like they are spawning. I've checked for parasites &
flukes but cant find any. Any help will be appreciated.Regards,Frz
<Stressed fish will not be very colorful. They have no place to hide and
probably feel threatened by each other. I would recommend getting hood or hoods
with a fluorescent lamp. Use a daylight color temp of around 6500 K. Start to
feed a high quality pellet food with lots of shrimp in it. Make sure the water
temp is up around 82 F. You should start to see some improvement in the colors.
If not then add some caves or decorations to give them something to hide behind
when they feel scared.-Chuck>
Re: Juvenile Flowerhorns peculiar behaviour 9/16/08
Flower Horns Losing Color II Thanks chuck.. but how do v explain
the peculiar thing I've noticed is that they are behaving like they are spawning
Rgds,frz < Spawning behaviour would include lip locking, flaring of fins,
cleaning an area and digging in the sand. Usually fish get more colorful when
they spawn. At 2.5 inches they may still be a little to young to spawn.-Chuck.>
Re: Juvenile Flowerhorns peculiar behaviour-my flower horns are still
brown Brown Flower Horns With No Color 9/18/08 Flower Horns, Hi
again. My flower horns are still brown. I have done the following as per your
advice * Changed the hood. < A hood is a good idea. It keeps fish from
jumping out and controls some of the ambient light entering the tank. Hopefully
you added the florescent light with the right color temp. too.> * Started
feeding shrimp [one of the two FH refuse to eat it, whole or diced] < Shrimp
is a part of a very good diet for your fish. Offer the shrimp once each day.
Leave it in the tank for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes remove any uneaten shrimp.
They will eat it in a few days. I would still try a commercial pelleted food
with shrimp in it.> *Added caves. <Giving them a spot to hide will give
them a place to retreat from any perceived threats and make them feel more
comfortable.> I'm quite worried as both the flower horns are still brown, in
fact they are extremely jittery & scared every time I approach them to feed or
clean the tank or change water. I've even moved the tank to get direct sunlight
in the tank. < Moving the tank will be very stressful on these fish and it
will take a while for them to calm down.> Dose having no background make a
difference? <If the aquarium is in an are with lots of foot traffic close by
then a background will help darken the tank and block out some of the external
distractions that may be adding to the stress of the fish.-Chuck> any help is
appreciated rgds,frz
Bigger Better Flowerhorns
4/24/08
I have 6 Flowerhorns and I was wondering how come they don't have humps at
all?
I asked the store where I bought it from, he told me that he never fed it
hormones, so today decided to buy hormones which where called super luohan. I
waned to ask for your opinion if that product really works? The store told me
that it will help the Flowerhorn grow hiss head. Is that true? I also bought
another product FAST COLOUR for enhancing there color. What other product do you
recommend in buying for my Flowerhorn to grow there head?
What live food should I feed it? What other strategies should I use for it to
grow?
Is there any specific way to enhance their growth and color quicker?
If you have any good recommendations and advice please let me know.
I would like other opinions rather than hearing it from the store.
Thanks for your time Chuck.
< The hump on the forehead is a fat storage device for male Central American
cichlids. Since the Flowerhorn is a cross between numerous species of cichlid,
the mechanism for enhancing the hump should be the same. To bring out the most
in both color and the hump of the male fish you need to feed you fish often with
quality foods. As a base I would use the best pelleted food I could find. In the
U.S.A. I would recommend Spectrum or another high quality cichlid food. I would
supplement this wish my own home made fish food. The recipe can be found in a
book by Ad Konings titled "Enjoying Cichlids" by Cichlid Press. It a mixture of
peas and shrimp that could be modified to have more shrimp that peas to increase
the protein content. I would feed it three times a day but make sure all of it
is eaten in a few minutes each time. Keep the water clean with frequent water
changes. Keep the nitrates under 20 ppm to keep you fish at the peak of health.
Clean your filters often too. The last thing that many aquarists fail to mention
is lighting. Strong bright light will bring out very vivid coloration on even
very young fish. I have never tried hormones. I know that they can temporarily
boost colors but soon fade when the hormones are removed.-Chuck>
FH Pairing
Flowerhorns Reacting To Red Light – 03/08/08
Hi to all the crew, I'm Lance from the Philippines, sorry if I just sent you
a trial mail just now. I was trying to send you my query since this afternoon
but failed so I tried to look for another way. Anyway here are my questions.
I have this FH that I bought from different owners. I am not sure if the pair
are male and female. I have read some of the reply that you have made to most of
the people asking you and I have compared some facts regarding this issue. The
other one is that I'm sure that it is a male for it's hump that is quite visible
than the other one and the round shape of the body which is full. The other is
with a long face and flat belly. Is this a female?
< The best way to determine if you have a pair is to examine the genitals. It is
also called venting. Take the fish out of the tank and look at the belly of the
fish. Just at the base of the anal fin you should see two openings. If the two
openings are the same size then that should be a male. If one of the openings is
much larger than that should be a female. Secondary sexual characteristics would
be longer more pointed fins on the male. The female would be smaller and not
have a hump on her head.>
This FH has been in the tank for 3 weeks now without partition. They have been
able to coup with each other very well until last night that I have decided to
change the light from a regular fluorescent lamp to a colored one which is RED.
As soon as I have turned on the light they both became so uneasy and start
biting each other. They have been biting and locked lips or jaw whatever you
call them and can not separate for maybe around 10 minutes. I decided to
separate them with a partition and still they are banging their heads on the
glass portion as it they were attacking each other. As a result they have both
scratches on their heads and lips some on the side. Anyway, I was afraid that
this can lead to serious injury as one of your articles said. So what I did is
that I turned OFF the RED light that I have installed and for a surprise they
stopped for that behavior. I read also from your articles that this are some of
the signs of mating so what I did is that I just
turned off the light. I was not really convinced regarding the light so this
morning I turned ON again the RED light and they went back to the attacking
behavior. So my question is that does LIGHT affects FH? Specially the RED color?
secondly is that the one that I have described a FEMALE? Thanks and more power
on your sight, really helps people like me who are fascinated with this variety.
Actually I have already 4 of them. Those pair that I put in the tank are 6
inches by the way. I'll wait for your reply, Godspeed Lance
< What is very interesting about your question is the effect of red on your
Flowerhorns. One of the cichlid species that makes up the Flowerhorn is the red
devil. This red coloration seems to indicate dominance to other non red red
devils. It appears that the red coloration projected with the red light has
stimulated this behavior between your two Flowerhorns. If they are a pair and
are thinking about spawning then the color of the light really shouldn't
matter.-Chuck>
Flowerhorn Growth
2/3/08
Hello sir or madam, I would like to ask these questions. I know Flowerhorn
is a hybrid and their growth differ from one to another within the same species.
But I hope you can answer me in general. When do flowerhorns reach their max
size?
< Cichlids in general have a pretty good growth spurt when they are little and
then start to slow down a little when they get older. They can be forced by
keeping their metabolism up by keeping the water at 82 F. Any nitrogenous wastes
like ammonia, nitrite and nitrate will also inhibit their growth. They will
probably really start to slow down after a couple of years.>
When did the hump start to grow?
< The hump on the forehead is a fat storage device usually associated with
males. After about 8 months when the fish 's growth starts to slow down you may
start to see the beginning on the hump on the forehead.>
When did they attain their max hump size? Thanks.
< Probably after the they have stopped growing and all the excess food goes into
fat storage and is not utilized for growth.-Chuck>
Growing A Hump On A Flowerhorn 3/6/07
Hi Guys, This is Ramanan. Pls find the attachment of my FH. I hope
it is a male b'cos of its colour. Pls help me in growing his hump. I am
feeding him with XO HUMPY HEAD, E-SHRIMPS and XO STARRY. Regards Ramanan
< The hump on your male Flowerhorn will increase as he ages. This is a
fat storage device. I am not familiar with the food items you are
currently feeding him.-Chuck> |
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Flowerhorn hiding in the corner. Flowerhorn Up Keep – 2/25/07
Hi, Your site is great and you guys are doing a great work. I have a problem
with my flower horn. He is around 15-18 cm in length. I bought him a couple of
weeks back and this is what I see while I observe him,
1) The fish most of the time hides in the corner of the tank.
2) If I keep a mirror he strikes at it thinking its an opponent.
3) Scratches himself on the gravel and pebbles in the aquarium.
4) Doesn't eat pellet food but eats prawns.
5) If I switch of the light he comes out and swims and that is the time when he
hunts the feeding fish.
6) He generally flips his tails like shivering.
I have a big tank around 150 gallons for him and I change water 40% every 10
days, I add salt and have good filtration mechanism like under gravel filter and
power filter.
I thought he would be infected with parasites and so gave him salt bath dip,
after that he reduced scratching himself. I do the same to feeding fish before
letting them in to the tank. I have a small tank where I have the feeding fish
treated before putting them into the main tank.
1)My question is, is this the normal behaviour of Flowerhorn?
< Pretty much what a Flowerhorn does.>
2)He doesn't seem to be aggressive against small fishes in the tank and kills
them only when hungry?
< He is only not hungry when he is full.>
3) What extra I could do to improve his growth and coloration?
< Stop feeding him feeder fish . Get rid of the undergravel filter. Keep the
water at 80 F. Vacum the gravel while doing more water change. Add a high
quality pelleted food.>
4) He eats around 1 big prawn say around 5-6 grams and not more or 10 to 14
small fishes around 0.5 to 1 cm length is it a good appetite?
< His appetite is fine.>
5) I don't see him very aggressive is it that he is stressed?
Please advice. Thanks & Regards, Arun
< He will get more aggressive as he gets bigger.-Chuck>
Re: Flower horn hiding in the corner. - 03/02/07
Hi Crew/Chuck, Thanks for the help. Your answers are gr8.
I have few doubts; it would be great if you can answer them.
1) Why do you want me to remove the under gravel filter, any specific reason?
<The undergravel filter works by pulling water through the gravel down to a
filter plate. As the water passes through the gravel the bacteria living on the
gravel perform the biological filtration needed to break down the fish waste.
When you have fish that like to dig like cichlids, they usually expose the
filter plates by digging through the gravel to establish a territory. The water
now takes the path of least resistance and goes directly through the filter
plate and not through the gravel. Without a current of water going through the
gravel the filter is essentially useless.>
2) Can I partition the tank and keep another small flower horn around 5-8 cm in
length, I heard that they get more coloration and better hump growth when they
get aggressive?( my tank dimension is ( 3.5 feet length * 1.5 feet width *2.25
feet height)
< They will not develop any additional color. That is the result of conditioning
and genetics. It will get them to display what colors they have more often.>
3) I use Humpy head pellets. He eats them now?
< Sorry, never heard of "Humpy head Pellets".
4) Can I feed him chicken and beef heart in small pieces?
< If you use a high quality food, then these items shouldn't be needed. I know
long time discus keepers use to feed beef heart mixtures to discus. I would not
recommend it.>
5) Is live feeding harmful other than chances of disease and parasites?
< Many feeder fish have been raised in such poor conditions that they have
almost no nutritional value except for being a protein source. If you take your
feeder fish, treat them for diseases and feed them a high quality flake food,
then they are full of vitamins and minerals and become a better food for your
bigger fish.>
6) Is there any other pellet food that you can suggest me please?
< I like Spectrum Food, but it not always easy to find. I use to feed MarineLand
food until they quit making it.-Chuck>>
I greatly appreciate your help in this regards.
Thanking you once again. Regard's Arun
Flowerhorn Not Swimming Or Eating 11/12/06
Hello, I chanced upon your website while looking for a cure for my sick
flower horn fish, but was unable to find any similar cases. I have a flower horn
fish that is about four years old. Two weeks ago, it stopped eating, following a
bout of fin rot. It no longer has fin rot, but has a swollen mouth and swims
vertically, with its mouth facing the bottom of the tank. It does not have a
distended body, or have any other obvious symptoms. I have tried changing the
water (50% of it) every week, washing the filter, vacuuming the bottom of the
tank, and putting a little salt in the water, but nothing works. It is still
refusing food, and hardly swims at all. I really have no idea how to cure it or
what to do to make it feel better, and am really hoping you guys could help!
Thanks very much. Lirong Lim
< Take him out of the water and look down his mouth for an obstruction. He may
have swallowed something or something is choking him like a bit of plastic plant
or wood.-Chuck>
Flowerhorn Asleep on the Job 10/11/06
hi, good day to you all.
uh, my fish keeps lying on it's side (i have a Flowerhorn by the way) but
when i turn the lights on, it swims well, normally. why is that so? and my
other Flowerhorn, (they are many, given to me) swims upside down, though
not most of the time. could you explain this to me too?
thank you for any response on this matter.
Cecille
<<Please provide details of the tank, test readings (ammonia, nitrIte,
nitrAte), any changes in the tank recently, and I will gladly help. Thanks.
Lisa.>>
Lonely Flowerhorn? - 09/14/06
Hi! Good day to you all! I'm Cecille from the Philippines.
<<Hello, Cecille. Tom from the U.S. (Michigan, specifically)>>
Uh, I have managed to put two FHs <<Flowerhorns, just so folks know,
Cecille.>> together and they seemed to get along well, they do not fight, it
was great.
But one of my FHs died =( and its tank was emptied, and so I decided
to take the other FH and place him into a tank of his own.
<<Sorry to hear about your pet, Cecille.>>
It's been about a day now and the other one seems to go along well.
But the other one seems quite lonely to me. Is that even possible?
<<In a certain sense, it is, Cecille, but not in the way that we
humans feel "loneliness". Fish are creatures of habit like most all animals
are and, once adapted to specific circumstances/situations, do not readily
accept changes in their lives. The loss of its tank mate along with the new
aquarium has, no doubt, left your Flowerhorn stressed to a degree. There was
a psychological attachment there rather than an emotional attachment. In
other words, the Flowerhorn you lost was part of the remaining Flowerhorn's
environment and, one that it was accustomed to. Your pet's "world" changed
in two ways and now it's struggling to re-adapt. In truth, if you had left
it in its old tank, there probably wouldn't be as large a degree of change
in his behavior.>>
He just stays at the bottom of the tank and hardly eats.
<<A typical reaction to change, Cecille. It happens even when it's
for the better sometimes.>>
Why is this so? Is he just not used to being on his own tank? Will
he get used to it?
<<Don't worry. As long as he's healthy, he'll adapt and come around
to being himself again. Be patient and, be attentive to him. Seeing you
(particularly with food he likes) will bring "normalcy" to his life again.>>
Thanks in advance. Any response will do.
Cecille,
<<Hope this helps, Cecille. Best of luck to you. Tom>>
Sleeping Flowerhorn Night Pattern - 07/30/06
Hi to all crews of WWM, I just want to ask about my new Flowerhorn. Is it
normal that when the lights are off, (I think he is sleeping) that there are
black markings in its body and a black mark around his pupil??
< Fish normally take on a different pattern when they are asleep so they are
less obvious to a would be predator.>
What live plants can you suggest me to put with my Flowerhorns fish?
< Plastic. All others will be torn up and eaten.-Chuck >
Thanks, I hope you reply soon! God Bless to your website!!
Cramped Flowerhorn 7/25/06
Today I noticed that one of my male Flowerhorn is being getting dull from
several months and the size of his head is also not increasing. I have kept
him in 2'L X 10"W X 1'H Tank. He is about 7 inches. I have put lights on his
tank, whenever I turned on the lights his colour gets dark and when the
lights are off, his colour looks good. Please help me with this.
<No wonder your fish isn't well or growing properly, you have a 7", very
large bodied/mass fish in a 12 gallon tank! Check the water parameters,
ammonia, nitrites, nitrates & pH. Your fish needs a much bigger tank, it's
stunting in there. ~PP>
Flowerhorn Growth Questions - 05/13/2006
Hi again, I've some questions about flowerhorns. First, what is he ideal
size (growth rate) of a Flowerhorn if he reaches 1 yr., 2 yrs., and so on?
And can Flowerhorn siblings be able to mate? Thanks and more power.
< At one year the average size should be 5 to 6 inches for a female and 7 to
8 inches for a male. All this is dependant on temperature, food and waste in
the water. Siblings do mate.-Chuck>
Flowerhorn help PLEASE!!
Hello, I think this is one of the most informative sites for Flowerhorns!
I need help about my Flowerhorn (Louis).
I've had him for about two wks now, and you'd think that it'll be already used
to its environment. but it still gets flared black stripes. whenever someone
walks in the room. I have Louis in a 10 gallon tank, with mint green rocks,
and one plant/rock thing. When you peek in the room, I'll see Louis swimming
around, all white with its black spots, but when he senses someone walking in
the room. or coming. it darts to its rock and its stripes come out, I don't
think it is hurt...it did jump out of the tank once, but even before that, the
stripes would come.. what does this mean?
< This is the fishes fright pattern and it is trying to blend in with its
surroundings.>
This is the second Flowerhorn I've had, the first one died, because it was a
JUMPER and jumped out of its tank *twice.. the people who sold me the fish,
never heard of Flowerhorns jumping, but so far, all the Flowerhorns I've brought
home have jumped! I am considering returning him and getting more blood parrots,
but I really love the way Flowerhorns look.. I am pretty frustrated!
I feed my Flowerhorn floating pellets and bloodworms. PLEASE HELP!
< Feed a very small amount of food every time you walk up to the tank. After a
while she will associate you with food and will not be afraid any more. Try not
to make too many sudden moves until your fish settles in. Give her an area to
hide and she won't jump out.-Chuck>
NuNu
Flowerhorn pair behavior
Respected sir/ madam,
I recently brought a pair of flower horns from a local dealer (a male and
female), male slightly bigger than
the female (the male is about 8-10 cm long, the female 5-6cm long). Now I see
the male attacking the female
and the female has some scars on her body. should I now remove the female or is
this a temporary action by the male.
Hope to get a reply soon.
< Remove her to another tank or he will kill her. Many times pair bonds are
broken when fish are moved and need to be reestablished. Try dividing the tank
and keep each one on its own side. When the female is ready to spawn she will
begin to start to flare back at the male. You can try and put them together for
a short time and see how it goes. Be aware that he can decide to kill her in
just a few hours so only put them together when you are home watching them.
Eventually when they start to breed again you can start leaving the female with
the male, but there is no guarantee when large cichlids begin to breed.-Chuck>
Thanking you ,
Rohan
Re: Separated Cichlids
Respected sir/madam,
I wish to thank you for giving me the solution for my problem so soon. I have as
suggested by you. I have
divided the tank into two by placing a glass piece in between the two, hopefully
this solves the problem.
One other thing I wish to ask is I was thinking of introducing a albino parrot
fish with the male flower
horn (of the same size), do you think its safe to do so & what are the signs to
look for to separate them.
Can I maintain the flower horn on dry worms alone. Well I once again thank you
for your suggestion.
Thanking you,
< Big cichlids get very territorial, so much to the point that they don't even
like some people in the same room with them. This makes them very personable but
also a pain to match up with other fish. You can try and put them together.
Rearrange all the decorations and put them together at night. It is best to do
this if you are going to around for awhile to see how it goes. If they don't
like each other you may need to get another tank. -Chuck>
Rohan
Flowerhorn needs a Bigger Hump
Hey there I'm a Flowerhorn fancier. I have a question. My flowerhorn's forehead
isn't big enough. What should I do/feed to make it bigger? Is it okay if I put
pebbles in the tank of my flower horns? Signed, Mario
< The hump on the forehead of Flowerhorns depends on a few different factors.
The hump is a fat storage device for many male Central American cichlids from
which the Flowerhorn was derived. Genetics plays a part of which you can't do
anything about. I would cool the water down to 75 to 76 degrees. This will slow
down the fish's metabolism so it will start storing some food as fat. Look for
high quality pelleted fish food. Many lesser foods have fillers that are not as
nutritious as they could be. Washed earthworms would be good too. Don't keep him
in too large a tank. The extra activity will burn up fat. I would put a half
inch layer of fine sand in the bottom instead of pebbles. The sand will act as a
site for the good bacteria to help break down fish waste and food won't become
trapped between the pores space of the sand.-Chuck>
Cichlids Fighting
But now the flower horn is just staying at the bottom of the tank with her
beautiful colors in place is this a disease only Flowerhorns get or is this
normal?
< It is a survival tactic. To color up and move around would invite an
attack by the more dominant fish.>
But she still eats but then goes back down.
< She still has to eat but doesn't stay out in the open any more than she
has too.>
And also my red devil is hurting my Oscar now because last night before I
went to bed I turned of the lights of the fish tank and then I saw my red
devil hurting the Oscar to the bottom all the way to the top and the Oscar
is not even fighting back! I can see many scares on him right now so what do
you think I should do? I'm thinking of selling him or putting him in his own
little fifty gallon or if not if you can help me in stopping him from doing
all this stuff so help. Sean Thanks
< Big cichlids get pretty territorial. Once they get on the rampage there
really isn't too much you can do but separate them. Lowering the temp may
help. But the red devil will always be hard to get along with.-Chuck>
Fighting Flowerhorn - 08/11/2005
Hello Bob.
<Actually, Sabrina here, in his stead>
I have a question or two about Flowerhorns. I have three flower horns housed
separately in 50gallon tanks each. They are about 6-7inches long and 8 months
old. How do you distinguish between a male and female?
<Can be very difficult with this unnatural/man-made hybrid.>
One of my flower horn has a huge nuchal hump but short fins. One has long fins
but no nuchal hump. The third one has a nuchal hump and long fins. All have
been purchased from the same brood.
<It could be entirely possible that all are males.... or not. Again, with no
natural standard, it can be exceedingly difficult to have any sort of guideline
to tell you "this is female" or "this is male" until they actually breed.>
I want to breed them, but the problem is that when I put them in my 125 gallon
tank all three start kicking each other.
<Could be all males, or could just be that none are willing/able to breed yet.>
There are no other fishes in the tank. I would be very thankful if you help me
out.
<If you are absolutely bent on breeding this hybrid, I would pick the likeliest
male (long fins, obvious hump) and the likeliest female (no hump) and let 'em
duke it out. Keep in mind, if they are both males, or if they're just not as
ready to breed as you are, one or both may die. Be CERTAIN to offer PLENTY of
hiding locations (PVC pipes big enough to fully hide in, rocks, plants....) for
the fish to "get away" from each other. Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Flowerhorn Questions 8/27/05
Hey, I got a couple questions about a flowerhorn's hump on the head.... This
guy is selling a Flowerhorn online, and in the picture it has a pretty big hump,
but when I finally decided to go buy it and pick it up, he told me, that since
he had sold his 150gallon tank, and the fish has been in a 29gallon tank, the
hump on the head has gotten "a bit smaller", but he said it will regrow in my
big tank....
My questions are;
1) Does a flowerhorn's hump shrink??????
< The hump on the head is nothing more than a fat deposit that can shrink or
swell depending on the diet, genetics and environment that it is kept in.>
2) Will it regrow when I put it in a larger, if it shrank?
< Give it good food and clean water will definitely bring it back, maybe to the
same extent that it was before depending on the age.>
3) Does the size of the tank affect the size of the fish (or hump) once it
has grow to adult??? (so for example, you have a fish it grows to adult in a
150gallon tank and then u put it in a 29 gallon tank, does it size or hump
shrink?)...
< Larger tanks tend to be more stable than smaller tanks. Nitrates accumulate
quicker in smaller tanks between water changes with bigger fish due to the
dilution factor and better filtration.-Chuck>
Thank You very much for reading my email I hope hear from you soon ;)
Flowerhorn Stopped Growing 9/19.5/05
I separated my Flowerhorn from each other since they were starting to be
aggressive (2 out of 4 died) and one was brutally injured (I placed it in a
small aquarium first) but one remained strong. The one who was in perfect
condition grew rapidly but the one who was injured stopped it's growth for about
2 months already. It's now in a big aquarium but it is still not growing. It has
a very low appetite and would not even eat pellets but choose to eat insects of
different kinds instead. What should I do for it to grow bigger again.
<First, if this is a female it may not grow as large as a male. Also, it's
normal for the fish to stop growing if stressed from a bad injury or aggression.
For now I would keep it in a low aggression tank. Give it time and plenty of
water changes. Insects are a fine natural food for a cichlid. But too many with
hard shells can cause digestive problems. Earthworms would be better. You can
wean him her back to pellets after it's appetite returns. Don>
Flowerhorn Cichlids Don't Have Color 2/10/06
Hi! I'm Joan from the Philippines. My husband and I are newbies in FH
care. We have 2 Flowerhorns that are almost 1 year old. The thing is, both
their colors are not as vibrant as other Flowerhorns that I see in the
website. They are mostly black with red along the gills but that's it. I did
some research but nothing that can possibly answer specifically to my
problem. 1.What can I do/feed my FH to make their colors change? (the aquariums
have coral backgrounds. No gravels or sand. No decorations either.)
< A Flowerhorn is a hybrid of three different cichlid species. Their colors can
range from grey to bright red. This is determined by the genetics of the
parents. If your fish do not contain the correct genes then they will never look
like the web site photos.>
2. Can it still be remedied? They are almost 1 year already. 3. One of the FH's
aquarium water becomes greenish in color after a few days. What causes these
things? (note: the aquarium is not in direct sunlight).
< You can enhance what color they do have with good nutrition, but you cannot
create color on a fish. The green water may be from the food or high nitrates in
the water.-Chuck>
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