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FAQs on the Livebearing Toothed Carps, Poeciliid Fishes Reproduction

Related Articles: Poeciliid Fishes, Livebearing Freshwater Fishes

Related FAQs: Poeciliids 1, Poeciliids 2, Guppies, Platies, Swordtails, MolliesLivebearer Identification, Livebearer Behavior, Livebearer Compatibility, Livebearer Selection, Livebearer Systems, Livebearer Feeding, Livebearer Disease,

Male Xanthistic (note dark eye... not an albino) Sailfin Molly

Baby Fish, Livebearer Repro.
I have had 2 sets of platys, 2 guppies and 3 green swordtails. I have been waiting forever for them to give birth. I know they get a black spot and look like they are going to explode right before. My question is how fast do they give birth? Do they all come out at once, or 1 every hr, etc. The reason I ask is that I found 1 baby orange platy today. The mother still has black inside, however it doesn't seem to be by her anal fin. Also, I have put a few females in the breeding tank before, however they abort. Is there any other 'Sign" to look for? I'm afraid to do it too soon. I believe I read that platys, guppies etc. could be every 3-4 weeks.
Thanks
Kim
<Hi Kim. The "black spot" you mention is known as the Gravid Spot. It is only reliably visible on Guppies and other small members of Poeciliidae; larger species, like Platies and Swordtails, don't always show the spot. That's because the spot is a colour patch but rather the developing embryos pushing the uterus against the muscle wall of the abdomen. The bigger the fish, the thicker the muscles, and the less visible the uterus becomes. So forget about the gravid spot. Instead, concentrate on the shape of the female. Prior to birth, she will be extremely rotund. In any case, as you've learned, putting the female in a breeding trap doesn't work with anything except the smallest species (e.g., Guppies). By far the best (and I'd argue ONLY) way to get fry from mothers kept in community tanks is to add floating plants. Indian Fern is ideal:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PlantedTksSubWebIndex/ceratopteris.htm
Simply check the tank every morning, and look for the babies among the leaves! Simple as that. Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Baby Fish  7/3/08
Thanks! I will definitely try the floating plants. 3 females that I have are definitely round and look like they are ready to burst! That is why I was wondering if the orange platy is possibly still giving birth since I found 1 baby 2 days ago. How long does it usually take for all babies to be born? 1-2 days, hours, weeks???
Thanks again!
Kim
<If you find one or two babies, and then nothing for days, then the chances are all the others were eaten! Typically livebearers release their batches of fry within a short period. In my experience, you look in the tank one morning, and find all the babies swimming about among the plants! Cheers, Neale.>

Platies, Guppies; repro  3/3/08
I have two male guppies and one female platy along with some other bottom feeders, i just started a ten gallon tank so i only bought a few to let the tank cycle. I am pretty sure that the platy is pregnant from the store and the guppies like to chase it around the tank and bite at it's fins. I has taken to hiding in the bottom corner but comes up to eat. What should i do to relieve stress of the platy during the pregnancy. I have an extra tank but no filter to add to it. I had planned on maybe putting her in it for the babies to grow. If you could please reply back at XXXX@yahoo.com that would be much appreciated.
thanks,
Cody
<Hello Cody. Two things: first make sure the aquarium is big enough for these fish. A 10-gallon tank is too small; 20-gallons is the minimum. When kept in small tanks livebearers can be nippy towards one another, as you're learning. As for stress, the main thing is to remove the males. They will fight constantly, and nothing you can do will stop that. They will also eat any babies. Whatever you do, don't put her in a "breeding trap" -- these are too small for adult fish; at best you can put the babies in them. Adding some floating plants will also help the female fish and give protection to the babies for long enough for you to find, rescue them. Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/poeciliids.htm
Specifically the sections of guppies, platies and breeding.
Cheers, Neale.>

Guppy and Molly Babies   2/8/08
Hi-
I recently bought fish (4 guppies and 2 mollies) and someone had babies. I have been looking online for answers and I thought maybe you could help. I can't tell if the mollies had babies or the guppies!!
~Fish Lover~
<You really can't tell when they're very small, though baby Mollies tend to be a bit bigger and more dumpy-looking than newborn Guppies. Do remember that the fry are at great risk of being eaten, so you'll want to add some floating plants to give them shelter and a bit of safety. Breeding traps work up to a point, but baby fish often don't do well in them, so I prefer to move newborn fish to a small aquarium where they can be reared properly. Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Guppy and Molly Babies 2-9-08
Thank you. I do have floating plants in my aquarium. I am keeping them with my other fish, though. None of them seem to be eaten or bothered, and it is fine by me if there is only one still alive because I don't know if my ten gallon tank can hold much more.
Thanks. ~fishlover~
<Happy to help. A 10-gallon tank is far too small for Mollies, and realistically too small for Guppies, or at least, any group of Guppies that includes a male. Male Guppies will harass each other and unreceptive females in small tanks. As for the Mollies, unless you adding salt (at about 6 g per litre) you will have real problems keeping them healthy because they are so very sensitive to Nitrate. Do remember "loving your fish" is less about cute names and more about providing them with optimal living conditions. Animals don't give a rip whether they're loved, but they do notice if they aren't cared for properly. So do plan ahead, monitor water chemistry and water quality carefully, and be prepared to make changes when (not if!) they are required. Here at WWM we don't hand out advice just to be awkward, but to help. Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Guppy and Molly Babies
I went to PetCo to get the fish. The fish person said that that was a good amount of fish. They are all very healthy.
~fishlover~
<Who ya gonna believe... someone who wants to sell as many fish as possible, or someone who has been keeping fish for over 20 years and makes his living writing for fish magazines and books? Seriously, a 10-gallon tank isn't big enough for Mollies, and will be a war zone if you have more than one male Guppy in there. Sure, they're fine now. But that might not last. Mollies usually need salted water to do well, which Guppies don't mind, so add the marine salt mix and be done with it. A mere 6 g/litre isn't going to cost you much. Feel free to read any aquarium book about Mollies and Guppies, and you'll find much the same advice I'm giving you here. I'm labouring the point only because you sign yourself "fishlover" which kind of suggests that you actually care about the well-being of your fish. If not, and you're happy to take the risk of them fighting, damaging each other, getting stunted, poisoned by nitrate, or whatever because they're just cheap little pets you bought on a whim, that's your own choice. But perhaps a change of nickname might be in order? Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Guppy and Molly Babies
Ok, well I will do my best but....never mind. I don't have any male guppies.
<Good stuff. Do remember that some of your baby fish are likely to be males, so even if you just bought females from the pet store, three months from now you'll have sexually mature males throwing their weight around. So plan ahead. Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Guppy and Molly Babies 2-9-08
Thank you. I saw a black spot on some of the babies on their tails. Does that mean that they are female?
<In a word, no. I suspect you are thinking of the famous (infamous) "gravid spot", a dark region that appears around the back half of the ventral surface of the abdomen of *some* female livebearers when they are close to delivering their brood. It is a hopelessly unreliable sexual characteristic even for telling if female fish are pregnant, so in cases of limited RAM for storing useful fishkeeping facts, drag that particular file to your brain's Trash icon and delete. Guppies (and most other livebearers) are best sexed by looking at the anal fin; after a couple of months it should be apparent that some of them have normal fins (females) while others have modified, rod-shaped fins (males). Cheers, Neale.>

Platy and swordtail fry  2/7/07
Hi
<Hello>
I have two questions. One, is that I have 1 red platy fry and 3 swordtail fry. All the rest of the fry squeezed themselves between the glass and rocks and killed themselves. What were those fry thinking?!
<Mmm... trying to avoid predation?>
Second, I've had 2 red platies give birth in my comm. tank and I haven't seen one single fry. Do you think that they all just got eaten after the first day? thanks.
Sean
<Could be... do take a read on WWM re Poeciliid reproduction... Bob Fenner>

Livebearer birthing clinic.... 1/15/08
Hello there,
<Hello.>
I have sought you out previously for advice and your team has been spot on.
About 8 months ago I purchased a few mollies (6) for my 60L tank and 7 Guppies for my 30L tank, I managed to stabilise the water conditions and both fish groups were kicking around very healthily - too healthily in fact.
<Oh?>
My Mollies have now multiplied from 6 Adults to 3 Adults, 30 juvenile and 30 baby (with more baby on the way), and the Guppies have gone from 7 Adults to 6 Adults, 10 Juvenile and about 40 baby.
<Well done.>
I have visited all the local pet shops and aquarist stores supporting Tropical Fishkeeping, and all of them refuse to take Mollies due to their
incessant breeding and lack of 'factory controlled' conditions of life. I advertised for a few weeks in the local paper to no avail, and I asked
around all the people I know - I managed to get one friend who was on the verge of purchasing an aquarium (110L) when he read up on Mollies and decided to buy some fish of his own (non-Mollie) instead of having free ones off me.
<Shame. Mollies are lovely fish!>
I started off as a pretty inexperienced Tropical Aquarist, but now I am confident in my abilities and have been looking to other fish (for instance Bichirs etc) however I only have space for the 2 tanks, and I am left with over 100 fish eventually.
<Yikes!>
It's getting close to critical point - 2 water changes a day in each tank, very soon the nitro cycle will disappear and the bacteria will perish -
forcing the ammonia levels to skyrocket.
<Indeed.>
Any enough monologue, I have a few questions, if you don't mind...
<Go ahead...>
What options are left for my Guppies and Mollies?
<Try visiting online Fish Forums. There are many. Some have Buy/Sell sections, where you can easily offload unwanted fish. If you have wildly multiplying livebearers, one solution is to install a smallish predator. Seahorses, for example, happily eat baby Mollies kept in marine aquaria, but even in a fresh/brackish system, things like Glassfish and Halfbeaks and Sleeper Gobies will chow down on fry.>
Say, I eventually managed to sort out the Guppy and Molly issue, would a
Bichir in the 60L be excessive by itself namely this one (
http://www.tropicalfish4u.co.uk/Fish/Freshwater/MiscFish/CuvierBichir ) ?
<60 litres is a bit small for Polypterus senegalus. That fish can comfortably get to 25 cm in captivity, and while it isn't overly active, you still need to respect the fact it's a fairly big fish. A 120 litre tank would be the minimum, in my opinion.>
Also, I am considering upgrading my 2 aquariums to a single Marine Environment and have a few questions - is it just the inclusion of the Protein skimmer and high salt that is the difference between the 2 types of aquariums?
<Depends on where you're going with the marine tank. I've kept coldwater marines in tanks that were basically nothing more than coldwater freshwater tanks but with salt added to the water. This sort of approach is viable with hardy marines that live in coastal habitats and don't really care much about water chemistry fluctuation. But once you start with reef organisms, things get A LOT more complicated, a LOT more quickly. Skimmers, UV, quarantine tanks, sumps, high-output lights, Redox, all become part of the picture. These are things that, for the most part, are optional or not necessary in freshwater tanks.>
- Does/Can Live Rock substitute Protein Skimmers?
<Nope. Do read some of the many EXCELLENT articles about the topic here at WWM by the various marine gurus.>
- Is it possible to get a silent Marine setup (bedroom you see...)
<Quite possibly, but not if it has a skimmer, sump, etc. But I kept my coldwater marine tank in my bedroom when I was teenager and it was fine.>
- Do Marine smell at all/more than Tropical?
<Smell different, I suppose. Salt water does have a distinctive "tang". Some say it's iodine, others ozone. Whatever it is, it is a nice smell.>
Thanks for your assistance,
GZ
<Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Livebearer birthing clinic....  1/16/08
Thanks for the quick reply.
<No problem.>
I will look into some of those species that you mentioned as small carnivores - I don't think seahorses are available here in the UK,
<Yes they are, but they're expensive because they're tank-bred nowadays. This makes them infinitely easier to keep than wild seahorses (they eat dead food!).>
nevertheless, a conversion to fish-marine is possible since this tank has Mollies in (I also have some small Suckermouth Catfish - are they capable of reverse osmosis too ?).
<No, Plecs cannot live in seawater. Do check you understand what "reverse osmosis" means -- nothing to do with seawater!>
I have just a few more questions:
- A friend in Germany has several huge tanks, 90L, 200L, 300L and always advises against the 'all-in-one' commercial filters/pumps. He instead used (from what I can remember) a foam layer which is permanently fixed to the aquarium walls in which the pump is placed behind. Overtime it matures as the bacteria reside in it, and starts to look like a rock face of sorts. Is there a correct name for this filter medium - I cannot find any reference to this at all, and have since lost contact with my friend.
Would such a filter be overkill in a 60L tank?
<No filter is "overkill" if it provides at least the amount of filtration required for the livestock being kept. A too-big filter can be a waste of money in terms of purchasing and running costs though, and too much water current upsets fish from relatively still waters. All this said, I can't really see what anyone would object to a commercial filter. It is true that manufacturers are sometimes optimistic about how much livestock or what size tank a filter is suitable for. But provided you go by turnover, no harm will be done. A basic community tank needs at least 4 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour, a big/messy fish system at least 6 times, and marines and giant freshwater fish at least 10 times.>
With tanks, is it always wise to go for surface area over depth (for chemical loss via aeration)?
<In theory, yes, a filter that it wide but shallow, with all the bacteria close to the atmosphere will indeed outperform one that is tall but narrow, where the bacteria must rely on the oxygen supplied by the flow of water. In practise this isn't usually an issue, and other things, like water changes and water circulation, will have a much bigger impact on the livestock than the shape or design of the filter. PROVIDED of course that the filter is adequate in terms of turnover and the choice of filter media.>
The Mollies and Guppies I currently have in the juvenile state, about 14 of them, smaller than adults but a lot bigger than fry, what could I do with these? Nobody in the local area on forums wants Mollies, and some folk explicitly advise/abhore female mollies and Guppies for the 'population explosion' risk.
<Can't think why. Anyone sticking either in a community tank with, say, cichlids or small predators such as swordtails or Pim pictus catfish isn't really going to have a population explosion!>
Thanks for your help,
GZ
<Cheers, Neale.>

Platys.... what if? Molly crosses?    1/3/08
Hi Guys or Gals!
<Hello.>
OK, so.. about 9 months ago my cousin dumped some mollies and platys in my freshwater tank due to them being baby making machines at
her house. I got sick of my freshwater tank constantly having problems with disease and infection so I pulled the Mollies and over the course of many, many long hours, I slowly converted them to marine fish (in their own separate tank not in with my other marine fish) They’re doing great! (both tanks) It’s been 6 months. Some are Dalmatian mollies and some are molly and platy cross breeds (living in a 1.024-1.025 salinity).
<Never heard of Platy/Molly hybrids. Are you sure? I'd LOVE to see pictures of these Platy hybrids.>
I even have a couple new babies in that tank. So my question is.. are the Platys solely freshwater?
<While Mollies adapt to marine conditions fine, I've never heard of anyone adapt any Platy (or Swordtail) to marine conditions. Brackish water up to SG 1.005 is likely the limit.>
Or can they be converted like the mollies as well?
<Not that I'm aware of.>
I heard they’d be OK in brackish water, But I want to know if they’d live comfortably in a marine environment.
<Likely not.>
Thanks for your time.
Rochelle
<Cheers, Neale.>

Pregnancy Question - 11/26/07
Hey it's me again!
If the gravid spot is not the pregnancy clincher, then what is? I've noticed that at the end of the belly and right next to the anal fin forms a point right before she gives birth.
-Any help?
-Sarah
<The problem with the gravid spot is that it isn't a surface feature. It's caused by the embryo-filled sac being pressed against the muscle wall of the abdomen. So you see a dark area just in front of the anal fin. It's very reliable on wild-type Guppies and Mosquitofish. But as soon as you look at fancy livebearers, which have stronger colouration, or larger species like Platies or Swordtails, you can't see the gravid spot because the colouration and/or muscles obscure it. As a general rule, if a female livebearer above around 2-3 months has ever been with a male more than 2 months old, she will have been fertilised. Since livebearers can have as many as six broods from one insemination, you effectively need something like 6 months or so of time to completely "use up" any sperm deposited and so be "ready" for mating once more. This is why people breeding livebearers separate males and females as soon as they can be sexed, and never, ever mix males with females except for deliberate breeding purposes. Once you've had a few broods, you will probably be able to tell for your particular fish what they look like a few days from parturition, but beyond that, you cannot reliably tell whether a female is actually pregnant or not. Hope this helps, Neale.>

Platies and Swordtails changing sex  10/26/07
I love your website. I'm very sorry if this topic is already on your website, I've already looked as much as I possible could. I'm doing a mid-term project in science class. I am going to see if Platies can change gender. I have to look up info to support it. I know that only hermaphrodites can change gender. I also know that it can only happen to females, and that it takes longer for guppies to change sex than platies or swordtails. I'm actually going to do the experiment, how long does it take, approximately, for them to change? Also that there must be all females present, no males. I already own a lot of livebearers, adults and babies, I've had fish my whole life. Can you help me please? Thanks a lot.
<Greetings. Without wanting to do your homework for you, let me save you some effort on one aspect of your project: There is no evidence at all any Xiphophorus species change sex. As your literature review should reveal, while it has been mentioned in the aquarium literature many times, it has never been observed under laboratory conditions. It is widely believed to be a myth, with aquarists having misidentified a slow-developing male as a female. Sex changes in fish tend to confined to marine perciform groups. The classic examples are among the Wrasses, which typically start off as females, but the largest ones become males. This is called Protogyny ("female first"). Protoandry, where all individuals start off as females, is not so common, but one well-known example is the Anemonefish, where the largest member of a colony becomes the female. Cheers, Neale>

Setting up fry/quarantine tank, livebearers, platies – 09/29/07
I'm new to this hobby and I really appreciate having this site to go to for help.? I have a 10 gallon tank set up in my classroom with 3 female red? wag platys.? I've had the platys for almost 3 weeks now and they seem to be doing pretty well.? One likes to hide at times, but she'll always come out for a pinch of food and sometimes she hangs out with the other two so I think she is Ok.? Anyway, our school's back-to-school night was last night and one of my? students'? parents (who used to run a fish store in NY) said one of my platys was pregnant.?
<Pretty much a steady state...>
I had? thought she? might be because she? has a fatter belly than the other two, but I didn't know if maybe she was bloated/sick.? I? do not see a dark spot on her so I'm assuming it will be awhile longer for her to give birth.? I know it is a long shot to think that I might be at school when she has her fry and can actually save them from being eaten, but I thought I'd set up a tank to use as a fry tank just in case.?
<Can use a trap of a few designs... or add some/more hiding material... trust to chance... some young should survive in such a setting>
And besides, if it doesn't get used as a fry tank, I could use it as a quarantine tank for any new fish that I want to add to my tank.? I'm going out this weekend to get the supplies to set up this tank.? My question is how to best get this fry tank up and running as quickly as possible.?
<Posted... http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwset-up.htm
and the linked files above>
I have? read that I could take water from my existing tank and put it into my fry tank to get the cycling started.?
<Yes>
Should I filter? out the waste (fish poop, uneaten food, etc.) that I siphon out during the water changes from my old tank? before putting it into the new fry tank???
<Mmm, no, I wouldn't>
I'm doing twice weekly water changes with my classroom tank now.? Should I put the old water I siphon from my classroom tank into the fry tank each time I do a water change or would putting it in during the initial set-up be enough to get the cycling started and keep the good bacteria going until the fry tank is needed?
<I would use the "old" water for the new tank... Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/platyreprofaqs.htm>
Thanks!
Carolyn
<Bob Fenner>

Platies and guppies? Crosses   8/4/07
Hey there WWM crew,
I couldn't find an answer to this question on the site nor anywhere else in my books or other online sources, so maybe you can still help me out. The other day I saw my female guppy mating with my male platy, and a female platy trying to mate with just about everyone and anyone. Is this normal first of all?
<Mmm, yes... Poeciliids are wanton this way>
And secondly is it possible that my female guppy may get pregnant with a half platy half guppy group of fry? Thank for your continuous help!
Sincerely,
Erica
<And yes, can occur... Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/livebrrreprofaqs.htm
and some of the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Birthing without a mate? Guppies   7/28/07
My daughter's guppy gave birth to 4 live guppies on May 20. We purchased her pregnant from a pet store. She was removed from the babies immediately and has been alone since. On July 24 we found 3 new babies in the tank with the mother! There has not been any other fish with her since the birth and I am trying to figure out how this happened? Is this common and is she done? Yikes!
<Greetings. Yes, this is normal. Guppies practise something called "superfetation" which means that they can divide up the fertilized eggs into several different batches of embryos. Each batch develops at a different rate, allowing the female to give birth to a succession of broods following a single mating.. Their close relatives the dwarf mosquitofish can actually stretch this out to no fewer than 6 broods from a single mating! Anyway, welcome to the wonderful world of livebearers! Cheers, Neale.>

Can a fish be "sterilized"? Oh yes... poeciliids here   7/9/07
This may be one of the more unusual questions you have received to date.
I have many mollies that were just fry last September. One of the fish who has turned male is having the same exact tumor problem his father did. The father fish succumbed after the slow growing nodular tumor spread and got in the way of his breathing after several months. One of his son's has been growing a tumor off to the side of his body and localized on the belly, but fortunately not spread to where it would effect his breathing. He still has a good quality of life and is courting his sisters along with the other males. I'd had to separate him since Mollies are a social fish who do well in groups, but I also don't like the thought of him reproducing what appears to be a bad gene.
What I'm wondering, would it be safe (and painless) to snip his gonopodium to prevent reproduction? If not, any other suggestions? I don't think he deserves to be put alone or die because of this. Thanks.
<Greetings. Sterilising livebearers has been done in the past in the way you describe, typically for breeders to prevent people "copying" their new varieties. Whether it is safe or painless I cannot say, though as a man, the idea of anyone snipping anything off of me fills me with dread! Fish *do* have nerves in and around their fins, as can be seen by the reaction when fin-nippers attack things like angelfish and gouramis. But your bigger problem is what to do with the male. Personally, I'd isolate him. Put him in a tank on his own with (ideally) other brackish water fish. Mollies are not really schooling fish, so while they enjoy company, they don't pine away from the lack of it (unlike, say, neons or Corydoras). You are absolutely right to try and remove poor genes from your stock. Whether a tumour is actually genetic though is a different question. While they can be, in many cases they are caused by other factors, such as viruses. In female livebearers they also seem to be caused by certain problems during gestation. But if it is genetic, there's no reason to assume only the male carries it; genetic disorders can be carried by females even if they don't express them. I'm sure you recall from biology class at school how Haemophilia works, for example, which is a human disease that can be carried by females but usually manifests itself only in males. In other words, when you breed the next generation from your females plus some new males from elsewhere, don't be surprised if you see this tumour reappear (if it is genetic rather than caused by something else). Cheers, Neale>

Re: Can a fish be "sterilized"?  7/10/07
Per the below advise, I will go ahead and just separate Jack Jr. (fish with the tumor - they all have names). Would a 1 gallon tank (aerated and filtered of course) be enough for him to live his last days out in? (I don't have a separate tank avail, so they just reproduce in a 55 gal and babies live by hiding in the abundant plants an decor.
<No, a 1 gallon tank isn't really acceptable for a molly. At some point breeders have to euthanise unwanted fry. Fish produce too many offspring to care for them all, especially if they're "faulty". But that's your call.>
On coloring for mollies, I seem to have a blend I have not seen - I have a few that are a deep beautiful orange color on the body, black dorsal, side and tail fins and pure white belly. I have not seen any in pictures with quite this variety. How common/uncommon is this color pattern? They almost resemble a red-wag platy color-wise. I read up that fish can change color to a degree associated with mating; would this be the case, or have I lucked out on getting a somewhat unique color scheme? (The fry came out of gold dust mollies)
<I have no idea whether such a variety is new. Creating a new colour variety isn't difficult, but getting it to breed true (i.e., the same, generation after generation) is much more difficult. Same as with breeding any animal. Your regional livebearer club (e.g.. American Livebearer Association or British Livebearer Association or whatever) will probably be your next stop if you're serious. As well as having a club you can join to discuss with other experts, they will have auctions and meetings where you see and learn about livebearer breeding. Mollies generally do not change colours in the same way as, say, cichlids. Good luck! Neale>

Re: Can a fish be "sterilized"?  7/10/07
Thank you again. I think at this point I am seriously considering euthanization in light of the tumor growing so that he does not die a slow or painful death. I think I'll just keep my fish as a hobby for now, but thank you for letting me know there are organizations for livebearers and such should I ever get more serious down the road. Have a wonderful day!
<Glad to help. Cheers, Neale.>

Male guppy romancing female platy    6/5/07
Hi,
<<Hello, Krista. Tom here.>>
I have a male fantail guppy that is exhibiting mating behavior towards one of my female platys. He follows her around, snuggles up next to her and swishes his tail in her direction.
<<A Guppy “lounge lizard”, eh?>>
She is not interested and is constantly trying to stay away from him.
<<You’ve raised her well, Krista. :) >>
Can they crossbreed?
<<I’ve run across unverifiable accounts of Guppies cross breeding with Platys but find these reports rather doubtful. Platys with Swordtails? Yes, but not Platys with Guppies. Livebearing females can store the males’ sperm for a period of time resulting in multiple births from a single mating. This occasionally gives rise to accounts from hobbyists that a female Platy, for instance, became pregnant by a male Guppy. Doesn’t take into account that she likely mated with one, or more, male Guppies at the LFS before coming to her new home. A far more likely scenario, in my opinion.>>
What is the likelihood that she can become pregnant by him?
<<Again, in my opinion, none.>>
I purposefully have all female platys (3) and 2 male fantail guppies because I didn't want babies - my tank is too small (4 gal BiOrb).
<<In a tank this small, it’s barely possible that fry – from viable parents – would escape being eaten by the adults anyway, Krista. Nothing cruel or heartless about this. Simply the natural way of things.>>
Thanks,
Krista
<<You’re welcome. Tom>>

Hello, FW livebearer info.   5/10/07
Hello guys,
  (From Andreas, Cyprus)
<Greetings from San Diego, California>   
  Great website guys, i just found it out and there is endless information.
  I have tried to search for my question to your website but i didn't manage to find anything.
  My question is how old the female balloon molly and female guppy has to be to be able to get fertilized and give fly?
<Only a few (three-four) months really>
  Also how old males has to be to be able to fertilize the females?
<About this amount of time also>
  Just for information in my tank i have 3 balloon molly, 4 guppy, 10 tetras, 2 angels, a pleco and a kuhlii loach. And 47 balloon molly fry and 6 guppy fry. The fry is currently in breeding net, unfortunately i can't let them free yet in main tank because of the angels, even thought my angels are not so big they would happily eat them all. I'm thinking to get rid of them but they are really good looking so i don't know yet what to do)
<Perhaps another aquarium for the angels by themselves...>
  anyway I'm going to make another small tank soon for the fry to grow, so maybe that would solve the problem.
   <Ah yes>
  Thanks.
<Welcome my friend. Bob Fenner, who was out in Cyprus in '96 for the Hash House Harriers Int'l runs.>

Breeding grass on top or bottom? Depends on species   4/24/07
Thank you so much for your website! I have spent many hours there and have learned a lot!
<Good>
I have a 10 gallon tank with platies and one is definitely pregnant. I bought some plastic aquarium breeding grass today and was wondering if it is better to let it float on top of the tank or anchor it in the gravel at the bottom for the upcoming fry?
<Near the top for these livebearers>
I was concerned if the fry would get enough crushed flake food if living in the grass on the bottom.
I suppose I could cut the grass and let part of it float and put part of it on the bottom?
Thank you so much!
Michele
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

Swordtail guppies?  4/10/07
Hello again,
I've been sucked into your website :) And I have another question I can't seem to find an answer to. Can you breed swordtails with guppies?
Because the third fish in my tank is a male guppy (with a female swordtail and a male molly) and, while the molly has been mating with the swordtail only occasionally, the guppy won't leave her alone (yeah those guys are insane). So I was wondering, with all that action, could I end up with swordtail guppy mutant babies? :P
Thanks,
Didi
<Possibly. BobF>

Superfetation  3/30/07
My son bought a female guppy nearly two months ago, and within the first week she had 8 babies. She has been kept in a tank by herself for the time since, and yet she just had three more babies tonight. As they are live bearers,  I am not sure what is going on, and I came across the term superfetation, and  wanted to know exactly what all this meant? Will we have any more babies to deal  with?
<Mmm, plainly put, this is the capacity to store viable sperm in (this case female guppies') reproductive tract. A useful strategy for when it "takes two to tango" and there are no males about. You may indeed have more young from this "lone" female. Bob Fenner>

Run-on Sentence & Livebearers 1/23/07
Hi
<Howdy.>
    I have a female Hi-Fin orange swordtail, and it was never pregnant, <Oh.> but I did have a male swordtail, but it has been dead for a month, <Ahh.> and I have three guppies two that are trying to mate with it and I can see they have a few times from what I noticed, and now it is pregnant, so I had wanted to know, is it possible for a swordtail and a guppy to mate? <Yup.> and have a fry? <You betcha.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/livebrrreprofaqs.htm >
<P.S. This email is made up of two sentences - one with four word, and the other with... over 50. While not absolutely necessary to make your point known, it is considered rude by myself and many other crew-members to have to field questions that have so obviously been spun-off and sent before any proof-reading at all. Consider this your ONE freebie from me. In the future, if you don't want to take the time to make your email presentable for display on our dailies, then I won't take the time to answer with any more than, "Please resend in proper grammatical English, please." Graham T.>
                                                                ~Thanks Louis~

Ich and Fry, FW livebearers     1/14/07
Hi there.  I'm completely new to this site (within a week, at best) and it seems to be an amazing site for answering questions.
<We do try...>
Here's my question...
I'm a fairly seasoned "fisher", though this is one problem I've never encountered before.  I recently purchased some RedWag Platies (sp?), about two weeks ago.  They are in their own tank (separate from my non-livebearers).  I just noticed their BRAND NEW babies this evening upon returning home from work.  I was just now over checking the progress on my new babies, noticed one more (rather exciting for someone who usually keeps tetras...lol).  I then started really watching the adults trying to figure out which one was slowly giving birth...... and that's when I noticed it..... ICH!  On at least two of the adults, it's visible.
<Oops>
My question(s):  How do I treat a tank with fry that are still so new?
<Mmm, better to separate... take out the adults, treat them elsewhere>
I've seen a lot of posts about aquarium salt, and Ich meds and the likes.  I currently have on hand (just in case) what's called "QuICK Cure", the active ingredients being Malachite Green and Formalin.
<Yes... quite harsh>
Should I medicate the tank with the new babies in it?  If so... should I be removing the carbon from my AquaClear Filter for better medication?  Basically, I'm not sure what to do because of the fry... I'd really hate to lose my first hatch (however... being a reasonable and educated person, I do realize this a good possibility.  Just want to prevent it, if I can).
Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated!
Steph
<I'd move the adults and treat them elsewhere. BobF>

Plans for livebearer fry in community tank; male dwarf Gourami bubble nest   12/19/06
Hi Crew,
<Hello - Jorie here>
Thank you for a very quick reply to the question I
<I; please use proper capitalization, punctuation when writing in...I've edited this one, but would appreciate not having to do so next time!>
had about my female guppy being pregnant and swimming funny.  
<Don't think I answered that one, but I'll try to help with this one...>
I have now done a lot of research into guppies and the other fish I have in my tank,
<Excellent - that's how we all learn>
another female has had fry today,
<Yes, livebearers will do that when males and females are kept together in community tanks...>
that's me
<??>
now got
<have>
25 fry (very proud!! Although it is said to be easy to do, I'm still very proud)
<Congratulations! The harder part is keeping them alive and healthy...>
The only problem is, I did not plan to breed but this is life and I do not want to stop it from happening, I cannot have two fish tanks in my house, so I bought a breeding net to keep the fry in, I also need one for the female.
<Well, if you cannot have any more tanks, then why are you trying to isolate the fry and mom, so that she can give birth to even more young? First off, female livebearers can store sperm for up to 6 mos. I am told, so even if you isolate her now, she'll like continue to give birth to new babies every 4-6 weeks.  You'll soon become overrun with fry! I understand you don't want to hurt the fry, but I imagine you'll not want to add to your "collection" if you have no ability to add more tanks; you'll very soon become overstocked.
Second, I am not a fan of breeding nets at all, as it is my view they tend to unnecessarily stress the fish out.  If it is your intention to raise the fry, providing plenty of cover (in the form of plants, especially floating ones, and decoration) in a community tank will allow the fry plenty of places to hide from predators.  Also, it will allow the mom to hide while she's giving birth as well.
As cute as they are, livebearer fry will ultimately run you out of house and home...I've invested in several new tanks just to accommodate my young mollies and platys.  If you aren't prepared to do this, best to allow nature to take its course and have larger fish in the community tank feed themselves on the fry.  It's nature, not murder...>
Is there any other way to do this as the nets are blocking the rest of the tank.
<Ditch the nets. Nothing good will come of them - as mentioned above, they'll likely stress out the fish.  Also, if you don't have room to keep/raise the fry, best to let nature take its course now while they are little...>
I think some info over my tank would help: I have a 160 liter, well planted. I think just need to work on cover plant for the fry,
<Java moss works well>
gravel based with a large ship as deco. I have enclosed a picture; don't know if it is any use.
<I always like to see pictures of peoples fish and tanks!>
If you would like to use it feel free - this was at the start
<For some reason, I wasn't able to "reply" as I normally do, to your e-mail, but rather I had to cut and paste the text into a new message.  I wasn't able to save the picture, unfortunately.  But I do appreciate you sending it along and I enjoyed seeing it!>
Any way the main reason for writing was to thank u for taking the time out to answer me.
<As I said before, I don't believe I answered your previous query, but on behalf of that crew member, you are welcome.>
No doubt
<doubt>
I will have many more questions to ask you as like u
<you>
said every day is something new.
<That is true, and we are here to help.  But, please do look through the wonderful articles available on www.wetwebmedia.com ; also, there's lots of other useful websites, books, etc. out there to be discovered...>
I am currently reading up on Dwarf Gourami, as I think they were trying to breed. The male started to build a bubble nest but nothing came of it.  
<Sometimes when male fish do this, they are simply showing the females they are ready to breed...no worries, no harm.  They'll breed if/when ready!  Also, these fish will likely keep your livebearer fry population in check...>
I have searched my tank from top to bottom, and to be truthful I did not know at the time what the male was doing till I researched some.
<The beauty of reading, research...>
Once again thank you.
<You're welcome.  Hopefully I've helped you with your livebearer fry question/"dilemma". Best regards, Jorie>

Swordtails Breeding with Mollies?
 - 10/24/06
Hi from Australia
<<Hi from the USA. Tom here.>>
I have a large 3 foot aquarium that has a silver shark, lace Gourami, 3 female mollies, 2 female swordtails, 2 mail swordtails and 2 large silver dollars. I also have a small tank that has about a dozen swordtail fry born only yesterday.
<<Congratulations.>>
I have two questions that I hope you will be able to answer.
<<I’ll give it my best…>>
Firstly, I just guessed when I thought that the swordtail was pregnant (these are my first fry) and put her in the breeder tank because everything I read says that you will know that they are about to have the fry when you can see their eyes at the back of the belly.
<<A very good indication, certainly.>>
My 3 females all have black stomachs and I can't see anything, is there any other way to tell as I think the other two may be pregnant as well?
<<Early in the pregnancy, this may be a little difficult particularly when the gravid spot isn’t clearly visible to you. Obviously, as things progress the abdomen will become fuller/rounder and, when time for the “blessed event” is near, the female will tend to isolate herself from her tank mates. One common behavior is for her to linger near the aquarium heater if one is provided. Her vent may also become a little more pronounced.>>
And, I think that 2 of my mollies are pregnant. Is it possible for swordtails and mollies to breed as the mollies were given to me as fry and I have had them for months so I know they weren't pregnant when I got them?
<<Yes, this is possible. It’s a bit of a misconception that livebearing fish like Mollies, Swordtails, Platys and the like will “readily” crossbreed but it can/does occur. In general, each will seek out its own kind first but, in the absence of this, males of one kind may seek out a female of another variety.>>
Please help.
Thanks Amanda
<<You’re welcome, Amanda. I hope all goes well. Tom>>

Livebearer gender question:  Want females......but........   8/21/06
All I got was males.
<Odd...>
  I'm referring to my baby platies.  I know that a previous question has been submitted by someone about temperature affecting the gender of baby livebearers, but it seemed inconclusive.  I would really appreciate any information.  I have a new batch of baby platies and I really want to know if there is any way that I can make most of them turn out to be females.
<Mmm, not really... cooler water temperatures, frequent water changes for the adults might help...>
I want to selectively breed them, so I need females.  I appreciate your time and advice.
-----------------------------------------------------Heather
<Not possible as far as I'm aware. You might want to peruse the American Livebearer Association's site re. Bob Fenner>

Poeciliid Fry growth    8/7/06
Hi there, I have a few questions for you. I was wandering
<And wondering?>
how fast do fry grow and how many weeks till you can start telling them from female and male?
<Mmm... for most livebearing species a few weeks... 3,4,5 will serve here... can be sped up a bit by frequent small feedings, and changing parts of the water on a regular basis (reduces metabolites that slow growth...)>
We bought our first set of mollies on the 5th of August. She started to have babies in the bag on the way home.  The man at the store said she would have about 30 fry, well we got home and put her in a bucket and she had the babies in a 10 gal. aquarium.  After a hour past I checked on her and counted all the babies as I moved them and she had a little over 100 fry.  Now my next question is the next time she has fry will she have more than that or about the same amount?  I sent a picture for people to see the difference in a male molly. Thank you Robin
<Mmm, thank you for this. Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/mollyreprofaqs.htm
and the linked files above... Much more pertinent info. to relate... and you'll realize the "method in our madness" in such referrals. Bob Fenner>

Livebearer, Platy Repro.   8/2/06
Hay
<?>
I have 5 platy sunset and 5 platy red and 2 rosy barbs. I want to know will the platys red and sunset will mate and have babies. Also how do I tell what sex they are? And what do I do with the babies?
    Thanks matt
<These platies will cross-mate (are the same species, just different "breeds", like domestic dogs). Please read here re:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/platyreprofaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Breeding different livebearers...   6/16/06
My main question here is if it is possible to breed, say, for example, a platy to a mosquito fish.  Since they are both livebearers, I wondered if they could create hybrid babies.  Is it even remotely possible?
<Some poeciliids do readily crossbreed... e.g. Platies and Swordtails... others not as surely>
I have recently become interested in selectively breeding platys in an attempt to create a new variation or type of platy.
<You're in good company. There are a few folks, groups that have this as an activity>
  In having plenty of offspring, I was wondering what would happen if I bred a male platy to a female mosquito fish (as I already have 24 mosquito fish babies, I intend to separate the
males from the females as soon as a difference can be determined).  
<Mmm... don't know that you want to go this route... Gambusia, Heterandria species are not very attractive to start with... will take quite a while, generations to return much in the way of color, finnage>
I’m not too experienced in genetics and I don’t know if the two fish would even take an interest in one another, but I heard somewhere about platys being able to breed with swordtails and maybe guppies, so I would appreciate a confirmation on what is possible.  Thank you for taking the time to read my question.  I would be very happy if your crew could answer this soon.  
Thanks again!! :)
<Interesting speculations. The most useful expenditure of your time will almost assuredly be going to a large college library (with a Bio. dept.) and having a reference librarian show you how to devise a search strategy... computer based bibliography on the genetics, breeding of poeciliids. Bob Fenner>

Re: Breeding different livebearers...   6/18/06
Well, you do have something there about mosquito fish being a little unattractive.  I find them a bit charming, though, so it balances out.  
<Good! I have bred all of these...>
Plus, there is an interesting story behind how I obtained my two mosquito fish females who are currently pregnant................ again.   They were
swimming among "feeder" goldfish in a crowded tank.
<Often mixed in for mosquito/vector control...>
When I saw that one of the two was really pregnant, I knew I had to at least buy her for the sake of saving some of her offspring.  The other female was hard to resist since
I found out the cost for each fish would be nineteen cents.  So I saw it as my "forty-cent bargain".  Long story short, the 24 baby mosquito fish that I
have now are all from the female who was heavily pregnant at the time I purchased her.
Knowing now that mosquito fish are usually a little on the undesirable side, I happened upon the thought to cross breed them.  I give thanks, once again,
for the fine crew at wet web media's quick reply.  It was much appreciated. 
I could attempt the platy cross breed, but, since the results are inconclusive and unknown, I came to wondering if breeding a guppy to a
mosquito fish would be a more likely success.  Of course, breeding mosquito fish isn't my main motive in selectively breeding fish.  The platies are
going to be the main production.  I would just like to do something with my new mosquito fish fry, especially since there will be more on the way.  I
would appreciate the answer to the question of whether or not a male guppy will breed with a female mosquito fish, as it is the last question I have on cross breeding pairs.
By the way, I will try to look into a college library at some point as I am beginning to think that a stronger understanding of genetics will be
necessary in my projects and fish breeding activities.  Thanks again!!
<Please do report back. I don't recall off-hand whether it has been reported that these poeciliids have produced viable young from crosses. Cheers, Bob Fenner>

Re: Breeding different livebearers...............  6/20/06
Okay, I will report back with whatever results in a cross breed.  It will be a while, though, since my mosquito fish fry are only a few weeks old.
<Ah, yes... takes multiple generations... years>
Once they are old enough to tell male from female, I will separate the different genders from each other and continue to raise them to maturity.  When I have
a mature female, I will introduce her to a male guppy and see how things work out.  Even if I get them to breed, it will be a while raising the
babies to finally have a clear result. Still, I will be sure to report as I figure things out.  Hopefully we all have the patience to see this through!!
  Well, I do thank you once again and I will keep your crew informed on this project.
<I/we thank you. I encourage you to keep good notes, possibly write up your experiences for the ALA, other media. Bob Fenner>

Breeding different livebearers... platy gender concerns    7/13/06
I would like your crew to know that, since Mosquitofish are very similar to guppies, they can crossbreed.
<Thank you for this>
A person at an experienced pet shop mentioned that Mosquitofish are, basically, just plain looking guppies and the two species will crossbreed.
<Mmm, actually, there are a few Poeciliid species commonly termed "Mosquitofish/es">
Although, the person doubts that any really interesting offspring will result at first.
I thank you for your replies to previous e-mails.  As I have raised my livebearing fry, I came up with a new question.  Since I plan on selectively
breeding my platies, among other fish, I wanted to know how to determine their gender as early as possible.
<Mmm, really just keen vision, observation... gonopodia and behavior>
  I am wondering whether or not a female platy will have a slight extension on the anal fin by the tip.
<Yes... the first ray or two...>
And I'm saying very slight.  I've always heard that females will have fan-like anal fins, but is it possible for a female to have a more pointed fan type of
anal fin.  As I am saying this, I want you to be clear of what I am picturing.  The fish in question's anal fin spreads out like a fan, but its
tip is slightly (and I mean slightly) longer than the rest of the fan-like fin.  This tends to make me wonder since the earliest form of a male's anal
fin is usually the fan-like shape becoming more extended and pointed.
<Agreed>
I really don't want to mess up with this, so any help would be appreciated as to how to correctly determine a male from a female at their earliest
development.  I'm shooting for a way to be able to completely prevent any breeding between siblings.
<Early separation... the first few weeks...>
  I really wish I could keep each little one separate, but that would be very difficult to do- since I don't have the kind of money to be able to provide separate containments for each of 10 or more offspring.  Thank you for taking the time to read my question/concern.
<Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob Fenner>

My livebearers don't seem to be breeding   2/7/06
Crew:
<Tim>
I have a cycled 29 gallon tank that has been up and running since about October.  I lost a few fish early on when the tank was still cycling but everything has been fine since then.  Currently my tank is a little overstocked but the fish seem healthy. I have 3 platys, 3 swordtails, 3 green Corys, 6 lemon tetras, 8 zebra danios, one small bushy nosed pleco and 2 small clown loaches.    Of the swordtails, one is a male and two are female.  Of the platys at least one is a male and one is a female, but I have trouble telling for the third platy.  It looks like a male but I can't tell whether it is just pulling up its anal fin as it swims.  I also have a number of plants. including java fern, java moss, Cryptocorynes, Ludwigia, Cabomba caroliniana, Hygrophila, Amazon sword, hornwort and anacharis.  Some of the hornwort is floating at the top.  I was having some trouble with rams horn snails getting out of control but not anymore since I introduced the loaches.  
<Ah, yes>
(There are still snails but not too many).  I have not added any salt for the sake of the plants and the tetras.
<Good>
  The temp is set 78.  The ph is fluctuates between 6.8 and 7.0, the carbonate hardness is 3-4, and the GH is 7-8.  I have two 2 bulb t-5 strip lights that provide a total wattage of 72 (4 bulbs at 18 w each).   I have algae but it is under control since I adjusted the timers to turn the lights out for 2 hours during the middle of each day.  I'm adding co2 regularly using one of the low tech plastic gadgets where you add the fizzy tablets.      
<Sounds like a very nice set-up, livestock mix>
To the best of my knowledge the platys and swordtails have not had any fry.  They seem to be engaging in courtship behavior.  Is it possible they are having fry and I have not seen them before they are eaten.
<Yes, most likely here>
How can I tell if the female is pregnant?  Any ideas what I can do?
Thanks.  
Tim
<Mmm, the general "roundness" of females, their more hiding/slower moving behavior, the darkening of the vent area are all indications... quite "pregnant" females can be moved in advance... to other systems, a breeding net/trap... but young may cause crowding issues here with growth... I would let "nature take its course"... unless you have other tanks, intend to give away the offspring. Bob Fenner>

New fry and tank care  - 03/13/2006
Hello WWM Crew:
    I very much appreciate all your information and support.  I have written a couple of emails recently and have found great comfort in your replies and advice!  Thank you!!  My 3 1/2 daughter, Katee, has recently had some new additions to her fish family.  About four days ago her Mickey Mouse platy, "Sunshine," gave birth to 7 babies.  I was able to retrieve 5 right away and place them in a breeder's net within the tank.  Her tank is 16 gallons containing a total of 4 male guppies, 1 mm platy, 1 red platy, 1 silver platy, 1 baby black molly (given to her from the pet store about 4 weeks ago), and a dwarf Plecostomus.  Today we found 2 more babies swimming around the tank, retrieved one and put it in the net.  The last is still in the big tank. now named "Houdini."  I noticed that the tank near the net is growing algae...I am trying to keep it clean by sucking out the waste with a children's medicine dropper and I also use it to clear any uneaten food after 20  minutes.  Is this the best way to keep it clean?
<Perhaps a length (five, six feet) of flexible airline tubing fashioned as a siphon would work best here>
Any additional ideas?  How is it possible to do a water change if the fry are hanging at the top?
<Careful siphoning>
Do I even want to do a change?
<Yes, some every week>
I made a 5 gallon water change last Monday and added the required salt at that time too. I have been prepping my daughter that not all the babies might make it, but so far we have a 100 % success rate.  How many fish can her tank support?
<About this many when fully grown>
I am attempting to keep this tank as low maintenance as possible, is that asking too much?  
<Mmm, no>
We do have a place some of the babies can go to at school, a very well maintained 20 gallon tank with only 6 platys.  How long do the fry need to stay in the net?
<Till more than mouth size...>
Is it better to leave them there or let them be free...."Houdini" has done very well and he is the smallest.  Currently the fry are being fed 3 - 4 times a day with "first bites" and the others get flake food each evening.  Should I maintain this schedule?
<Yes>
For how long?  
<A month or so>
Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.  Both Katee and I are extremely grateful for your input.  
Sincerely, Debby
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

There's something in the water...  - 03/11/2006
Hello all,
    Thank you very much in advance for your expertise....
<Glad to share it>
I am very happy I found your web forum, I have found it extremely helpful.  My 3 1/2 year old daughter is obsessed with fish!!!
<Do sneak in the occasional spread sheet, business tome...!>
We have a lot of exciting things happening in our 16 gallon tank.  We recently have had 5 new Mickey mouse platy additions to our family, they are happily residing in a breeder's net and eating well and are very active, even the tiniest of them all.  Unfortunately the "Mama" broke her back during birth and had to be put down (it was a happy and sad day yesterday!)  Now that I have taken a deep breath I believe that the red platy and another platy in the tank are pregnant too!!!  This tank has now 5 fry, 3 Mickey mouse platys, 1 red platy, 4 male guppies, and one dwarf Plecostomus.  From surfing your site I see dark areas on the lower parts of their bodies.  Do the fish show any other signs before giving birth?
<A clearing of the distal vent area... a day or so ahead... and "hiding" behavior>
The red platy is being slightly piggish at mealtime and chasing off the others, while the yellow Mickey mouse is hanging back and down in the plants.  How many fish can my tank support?
<Mmm, "well"... depends on size, maintenance... but a couple of dozen... a good idea to "share the wealth" here... with the growing of young, to give these out to others that want them>
Do I let these new ones fend for themselves?
<This is one way... and in general best, yes>
There are lots of hiding places in our tank, many plants, large pebbles, rocks etc.  How many fry can go into the breeders net and not be over crowded?
<... depending on size... a dozen or two...>
Should I get a second one?
<If necessary, yes... and/or keep an eye out for sales on new/used tanks/systems>
Can you place multiple fry from different "Moms" into the same net?
<Yes>
Thank you for any advice you can give me.  All is helpful!!
    Katee also has a very happy 5 gallon tank that has never given an ounce of trouble.  On the other hand her 2 1/2 gallon tank smells sulfuric.
<A very common trend for "too-small" systems to have/be trouble...>
At one time it had black slimy algae growing in it, but I replaced all the plants with new ones and it has not returned, except for the smell.  Any idea?
<More aeration, moving (during water changes) new water for the tiny tank from the larger ones... time going by>
This tank only has 1 fish a two inch red-eyed tetra named "Poop."  Can this tank support any more fish?
<Of some species yes>
Thank you again.  Have a wonderful day.  Sincerely, Debby
<Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob Fenner>

Platys and Mollies  - 03/05/06
Ok first I want to say HI!
Then I want to apologize in advance for the simple questions I am about to ask.
Ok I just got two mollies of some unknown variety and the same with two Platys.
I really want babies now that I know they are live bearing fish.
I am extremely new at this for I have a one gallon tank don't know anything about hard water, soft water, brackish, nitrites, and I have them in a tank
with water from my sink.
I'm sure right now you are thinking "oh great"!
Well I REALLY want to get into breeding these fish but I'm not sure how to tell their sexes.
<Not hard to do... they have internal fertilization (as our species does)... males have modified anal fins, gonopodia, for genetic intromission... gone over on WWM>
OK if that's not bad enough here is the worst thing these are Wal-Mart fish!
Anyways I know that males have a gonopodium but I can't really tell if any have this.
<Oh! May be too small to see at this point>
I have one black and white platy, black back with white fins and belly and semi iridescent black scales, who always keeps its anal fin tucked ,i hope
to god that was the right name, I am almost positive that its a he.
The other platy is smaller by just a little bit and is bright orange with yellowish fins I am sure this is a female because that fin is always out and
look round but she is smaller than the other.
Aren't males smaller?
<Yes>
The mollies are what I am most concerned about.
One is yellow with kind of iridescent spots.
The other is larger and has a yellow color with orangish and black spots.
This one seems to be dominate over the other it seems that it chases yellow one about until she feels satisfied about her position in the tank.
I am not sure if they are both female and I don't know if they are okay where they are now they seem to be fine i think except for the chasing
between the two mollies I think they both might be female , and that is okay for now I suppose.
Later today I should be going out and getting some new fish and my friend is giving me another ten-twenty gallon tank.
<Much better... the present one gallon is too small, unstable>
I broke the first one he gave me within the hour of getting it, I dropped it in the sink while trying to clean the hard water out of it.
Well I need to know what to put in this new tank.
Currently I have rocks, one fake plant, an air pump, and a thermometer.
I got from my friend a filter, a thermal something and a light for the top of the tank but I don't know how to use any of these things.
<Posted on WWM... but I would have a "fish friend" come by and help you in person>
I think the mean female molly is pregnant she has that dark spot in her belly how can I tell when she will give birth?
How many fish can fit in a ten-twenty gallon tank?
<Both posted...>
I must know so I don't over fill it especially if their are babies on the way.
Ok well the platys seem to be right at home just swimming about but the mollies hide by the plastic plant in the tank a I put bulbs for a plant
called an Aponogeton is this an okay plant?
One more thing I feed them regular fish flakes is that okay?
How often do I feed them?
Thank you for your help I hope this is better
Maria
<Please see WWM. Your answers are there. Bob Fenner>

Baby Molly and Pregnant Platy   3/3/06
Hi, I have one breeding net it has one baby Molly in it is it ok to put a pregnant platy in with he baby Molly ?
<Should be okay... if the molly is large enough... more than mouth size. Bob Fenner>

Re: fish fry stuck in mother
Thank you very much.
<Happy to be of some help.>
So if they don't come out does she die and the fry live?
<If the egg material isn't reabsorbed into the female's system, which is typically what we'd expect, yes, it can be fatal to her. Once born, the fry are going to be reliant on you, not "Mom". You might try adding a small amount of aquarium salt to the tank, on the order of one tablespoon per 10 gallons.
I've no first-hand experience with using salt for this purpose but have run across this suggestion during other research. Good
luck. Tom>
Everett

Tiny Tank With Fry On The Way   4/30/06
I have a 5 gallon tank with 2 swordtails, 4 mollies, an Otocinclus and 3 small shrimp. My silver molly is pregnant, will she come to term in such a small tank? Also, I do have a few live plants but will the fry survive? I am not sure if it will be too crowded and effect the other fish. Thanks!
<Hi, Don here today. Yes, your Mollie will give birth in this small tank. I would think that most will be taken by the swordtails if you leave things as is. This is not a bad thing, it's nature's way. But if you want to raise the fry and keep the fish you currently have, you will need a second (or larger well planted) tank. You are already overstocked, the fry will put additional stress on the system. Look into setting up a 20 gallon long for your current fish and using the 5 as a fry and shrimp tank. If a new tank is not possible I suggest you pick your favorite 2 or 3 fish and find new homes for the rest.>

Freshwater 20g... unexpected surprise...  - 04/27/06
Hello... and thanking you already for any help/advice you can give,
   I've been searching your site but haven't been able to find exactly what I'm looking for so I do apologize if this type of issue has already been addressed and I just couldn't find it.
   I recently bought a 20g tank for freshwater fish. I am very new to this hobby and mistakenly took the advice of the PetSmart salesperson - I didn't know a thing about cycling until stumbling across your website. I did purchase a bottle of Cycle and have been adding as per the directions but no one at the shop told me not to add the fish right away.
<A very common mistake... often deadly>
My bad for not investigating further.  I've had the tank for almost three weeks and so far the fish I have are doing alright - I have 5 platys and 5 mollies. They're "happily" swimming and eating and there don't seem to be any problems ( please keep your fingers crossed for me :) ). Here's my problem  - I specifically asked for only male fish because I didn't want the possibility of having fry until I became more accustomed to taking care of the adults if that makes sense. Well, lo and behold I now have eight fry ( three of them I noticed last week and the five new ones I noticed three days ago - the new ones are still "baby babies" ). This is my question ( finally :o ) - I would like at some point soon to get into the tank with my gravel cleaner, how safe is it to do so with these babies hiding everywhere?
<Not generally a problem. They avoid such>
Secondly, since I biffed the cycling process should I wait awhile before cleaning the gravel in an effort to not create an even larger problem?
<Yes... you are wise here. "Cycle" (Hagen product) does often fail or not work in the first place. I'd wait another month or so before changing water>
Thank you again... it's so very very much appreciated!!
Geri      
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

Livebearers
Dear Robert,
one of my swordtails, female, has recently 'built up' some black dots and marks in the area from the eyes all the way back to the dorsal fin. This is not maturity as it was already mature.
How do i tell if it is pregnant?
thanks
>>
Hmm, well the black spots could be "nothing", at least nothing dangerous... melanin build up from genetic, developmental input... The pregnancy, close to parturition (birthing) is a matter of having good vision... Take a look near the fish's vent... as it gets near to releasing its young, you will see the area enlarge, become clearer and the eyes (little dark spots) of the young themselves, a few days ahead of release. BTW, do take care to not move the female (as in to a breeder trap or other tank...) in later stages of pregnancy... instead, I suggest placing enough filamentous bunch plant material (like Myriophyllum, Hornwort, Anacharis...) for the young to hide in.
Bob Fenner

Re: Re: livebearers
Dear Robert,
so i should not use the breeding trap?
<You could/can if it's big enough and you move the pregnant female(s) ahead of giving birth a few days or more>
Is the vent the area near where the fish excreta is released? 
<Yes>
There is a pink spot there right now and that sword is becoming fatter by the week. Will that pink spot become black in colour?
<Yes, with the develop of the young, you can actually make out their eyes as they get larger... and the vent region will become whitish/clear.>
What behaviour signs can i look for to tell that my fish is ready to give birth?
<Less movement, more hanging out at areas where the young could seek shelter.>
BTW do you really think that those black spots on the head are just the fish maturing? 
<For the most part, yes>
When my platy gave birth it didn't develop them.
My platy was hiding from everyone else but my sword doesn't do that, does it just mean that the fish isn't ready to give birth yet. >>
<Possibly. Bob Fenner>

Re: Livebearer Swordtail Pairs?
will now i got the female and the male pineapple swordtail fish in a breeding tank with a net how do i know that she pregnant in the other tank i saw little black dots like they said you will see but they also said that the fish don't take more than 24 hours to 2 days to lay their hatchling but i don't see them in the tank do the female waits to have her young or do she have them at any given moment?
<Any moment now... depending on a few factors... the higher the temperature the sooner for instance. Bob Fenner>

HELP!!!!!!Female Guppy
Two days ago i purchased a female guppy, today she gave birth to 15 fry.
I had her in a fish net breeder that you attach to the side of the tank, whilst she was giving birth. Every time a baby came out i put it in a fish bowl. when she had, had them all i put her back in her original tank. i then put the fry into the fish net breeder, at the moment they are just sitting on the bottom of the net. the are all alive because if i move the net they swim back down to the bottom, Why are they staying at the bottom?
<Likely just from the trials of being born and being moved... Next time, either leave the female in with her young till they're all out, or look into one of the types of traps that "automatically" separates the young. And do utilize some sort of real or artificial "breeding grass" (anacharis, Myriophyllum, Ceratophyllum...) in with the gravid female.
Good luck, and congratulations.
Bob Fenner>

Platies and Guppies
I recently purchased 4 platies 1 of them is very fat and she stays in the plants and on the gravel a lot, do you think she is pregnant? Also i
have 4 Guppies, 2 males and 2 females, I want to breed them, how can i tell if they are going to breed, what are the signs i should look out
for? Also i would like just one Siamese fighting fish but will it attack my guppies? Please, please, please email me back A.S.A.P at
Thanx for the help. from Alex
<Thank you for writing, and yes, it is likely your platy is indeed going to give birth. Take care not to move such fish when they are very gravid (close to parturition), as you can gauge from their girth as well as a clearing near the females' vent areas (if you look very close, you may be able to see the young's eyes!) at this time. As I say, it is best to have plenty of room, some plant material for the young to hide in (lest they be eaten by the other fishes), and keep their tankmates fed (small amounts at least twice daily). A Betta, aka Siamese Fighting Fish would likely chase your fancier male guppies (their fluttering tailfins are irresistible) and would definitely eat your young livebearers. However, you could easily house the Betta in a container within your aquarium, like a glass hurricane lamp cover or attached plastic trap for the purpose... effectively keeping them separated. Do keep in mind that Bettas need regular meaty foods (frozen/defrosted, fresh, live) to stay healthy, and access to the tank surface to breath.
Bob Fenner>

More on Pregnant Platies
I forgot to bookmark your web page and i cant find the site could you email me the address?
Also how can i tell if my platy is gravid? Please email me back at sparkle
Thanx
<Our URL is wetwebmedia.com, and your female platies are gravid (near to giving birth) when they're apparently more full, and their vent area (the underbelly just behind the anal fin) starts to become clear.
Bob Fenner>

Guppy, Pleco Q's
Hi,
I was wondering what is the shortest length of pregnancy for a female guppy? Also What age does a female guppy reach sexual maturity?
Also i have a pleco and i bought it when it was small but it grew fast now it is starting to get too big what should i do with it and will it start eating my other fish? and what could i get that would clean my tank but not grow very big?
thanks Alex
<About a month... about four months... trade that too-large pleco in at your fish store... not so much that it will harass your other fishes, but may starve, knock everything over... How big a tank? Read over the Suckermouth Catfish article posted on the www.wetwebmedia.com site. Bob Fenner>

Poecilia
Bob,
Hi It's me again, Brenee King, a student of Mr. Nordell's I wanted to know how Poecilia latipinna and Poecilia sphenops can mate even though they are different species? Or was I mistaken about their mating capabilities?
Brenee King
<Hello there. Rather than just rendering yes/no responses here, let me send you along to www.fishbase.com where you can/should insert the genus of these two livebearing toothed carps and click below on "reproduction"... Some strange goings on, challenges to "species-concepts" with the families of livebearing fishes... Be chatting. Bob Fenner>

Platy gravid spot
Hi...
Been searching high and low for a picture of a pregnant platy. I think mine might be expecting, and keep reading about a gravid spot to confirm it , but am not quite sure what i am looking for. Any pics on the web that you know about? 
<Hmm, think I have some at home... am visiting in HI currently. The vent area gets quite clear near parturition... and the black pupils of the young are visible...>
Also, she has begun to look much larger in the last 2 weeks...how soon should I separate her from her tankmates?
<Sooner is better if you're going to move the fish at all... I would do so now. Bob Fenner>
thanks, A.J.

Pregnant platies
Dear Rob
I hope that you can help me, I noticed that my platies fish tonight has become very fat and looks pregnant. How long does it take from conceiving to delivering. How will I know when she is about to deliver the babies. What precautions can I take to stop her eating her babies.
She is resting on the gravel at present, so how will she act when she is about to deliver and is there anything in particular that we will notice or is there anything that we can do to keep the babies safe.
I would be grateful for any information that you can give me.
Regards
Becky
<Thank you for writing. Please take a read through the following part of our site: http://wetwebmedia.com/poeciliidfaqs.htm
Others FAQs on platies, reproduction. Bob Fenner>

Fat Platy
My female platy gave birth about two weeks ago but now looks pregnant again do you know what's happening?
<Mmm, what do you think is happening? This fish could "just be fat"... from the types of foods you offer (any greenery, live or as food in the tank) and/or maintenance (do you do regular partial water changes?). Perhaps it is pregnant again (this happens). Do try looking for books on Livebearing Freshwater Fishes at a large library near you. Ask a librarian there to help you find what they have in the stacks or can get you on inter-library loan. You may become a breeder of new strains through your studies, involvement. Bob Fenner>

PLATY!!
I have a pregnant "Mickey-mouse" platy. I know she's pregnant because she's a orange-yellow transparent color and I can see the babies inside. 
<Neat>
what are some signs that she is about to give BIRTH to the fry?
<The vent area will become quite clear... she will "hide out" in whatever sort of "breeding grass" you're providing...>
How many fry can I expect?
<A few to dozens...>
Thanks!
-Erin of Washington
P.S I heard that the color becomes darker behind the gills late in the pregnancy. Is that true?
<Hmm, behind the gills? Haven't heard this before. Here's where we store the FAQs on livebearers on our site: http://wetwebmedia.com/poeciliidfaqs.htm
So you can read about other peoples experiences. 
Bob Fenner>

Platy repro. questions
>i have two platies; one male and one female and i think that the female is pregnant how can i tell if this is true?
<You will notice this female getting much more round, and the area in front of its single bottom, midline fin (the anal fin) becoming 
>clearer in color... even the babies eyes will be visible close to (within days) of giving birth. Do place some "spawning grass" plant 
>material or plastic equivalent for them to hide amongst. Bob Fenner>
>my platy female has just given birth can you give me any info on rearing them?
<A few times a day, very fine food (dried foods ground between fingers will work). Keep an eye on water quality... Are you raising with larger, parent fishes? You might want to separate them. Bob Fenner>

Re: more info about breeding pattern of mollies, especially around delivery time
hello bob,
wow. this is fast. thanks. okay, I've noticed the "gravid spot" as it is called. you mentioned that this area should be "clear". yes, in my fishes,
they're like "translucent", i can see the inside outline but not the shape of the babies. however in other websites, they mentioned that the gravid spot
should be "dark". which is which??
<Well... depends on the "sport mutation", individual's degree of melanation in the vent area... but "does change" and one can almost always make out the young's eyes/pupils right about near parturition>
what you said about not overcrowding sounds a lot like common sense. in fact, the whole day I've been thinking of getting a bigger container so at least they feel as if they have more room.
<Am "full" of commonsense>
you also mentioned the molly will hide among the medium (elodea in my case) to deliver her babies. some other sites mentioned the molly will settle down to the bottom and will seem lethargic, fatigued. is this also correct??
<Yes... a possibility>
my one and only fry is doing well. i gave it some crushed powder from a small floating goldfish pellet. i think it only eats the powder after the powder is thoroughly soaked. but it seemed lively and healthy enough (at least not sickly).
<Ah, good>
I've also moved one of the females to another container as this one doesn't seem that pregnant as the others.
oh yes, by balloon mollies, do you mean "pot-bellied" mollies? I've seen this term elsewhere on the web. here comes my question: how do you differentiate between a normal pot-bellied / balloon molly and a pregnant sailfin molly??
<Very different in appearance... can be discerned easily. The pot-bellied/balloon types are REALLY round in the abdominal region>
I've never seen a picture of a pot-bellied molly so I'm really hoping that my mollies are really heavy with fries and not just being the pot-bellied
variety. I've written to a website on tropical fish and i was told briefly that pot-belly molly has a unusual spine curvature. to me this is very very vague indeed. if you look at a sailfin molly, the position of the dorsal fin in the female is actually a bit to the back, more towards the caudal fin, right?
<Mmm, yes>
therefore, when i look at a female sailfin molly, it looks as if she has a little bit of a "hump" back towards the caudal fin. my mollies at time stayed in one spot for quite some time, at times, they "sat" at the bottom, at times they're active, swimming up and down, up and down. is this normal behaviour??
<Yes. Do "sit" at times. Are you feeding "greens" on a daily basis?>
you also mentioned that at times, a pregnant molly will reabsorb her babies, in dire circumstances? what exactly are these circumstances?
<Nutritional deficiencies mostly. A lack of habitat...>
i want to make sure they I'm not making their circumstances dire. since I've bought them, i want to make sure they're given good environment to live in. in place of the conventional aquarium setup (filter, etc, etc), will a large earthenware pot about 1 1/2 feet in diameter and half a feet in height make good home for my mollies?
<Maybe... would add a "sponge filter" or canister type to this container... and leave the water down a few inches or cover with a mesh (they jump)>
i prefer to keep them outdoors as they seem more happy when there is sunlight. i am thinking of a such an earthenware pot with 1/4 in of gravel material at the bottom and elodea plants as needed. what I'm trying to do is to give them as much of a natural environment as possible. I've tried to read up as much as i can on this before i start. hence the initial a bit crowded home. the elodea will help to give oxygen in the daylight, provide them with cover and shade, a lotus plant will also give them cover, a 1-2 in change of water every second day to remove fish waste, use of biological pond water conditioner (those live good bacteria thing). what do you think?? do you think it would work??
<Should, but I would add the filter just the same>
I've such a pond with lotus plants and a betta and a handful of wild guppies. they seem to do very well, plant fish and all. but of course, i can't compared betta with mollies as betta has the ability to survive in less than desired water condition.
congrats on going to Pulau Redang. how was it?
<Very nice. Good accommodations there, fine people>
i haven't been there, reason being i can't swim and i can't dive. i had been to Pulau Tioman but i was told that Redang is much better than Tioman and of course Pulau Perhentian, also off the Trengganu coast, beats these two islands, hands down. but if you take it from dive experts, Pulau Layang-layang is the diver's haven.
<Have heard the same. Am looking forward to visiting these other island groups.>
back to molly, is pot-bellied molly usually very small in size and build compared to other types of molly?
<Yes, most only 2-3 cm. in length>
do you have a pic of a pot-bellied molly?
<Yes, but not very good. Have posted here: http://wetwebmedia.com/poeciliids.htm>
would be happy if you can show it to me. my problem here is the fish shop from where i buy my fish is not that particular about proper labeling of their fish stock. they usually write it in Chinese, and i think, that is also its local name, not the standard name. for example, they called platy moonfish. i thought a moonfish looks exactly like a platy but the shopkeeper insisted it was a moonfish. i was searching and searching all over for "moonfish" when i came across a reference that said moonfish is also platy.
<Yes.>
hence my sailfin molly, one with a triangular sail and one with a "rectangular" sailfin are just referred to "mollies". i learned that the sailfin molly with the "rectangular" dorsal fin is the Yucatan molly. but i can't remember where i read this.
will appreciate any more information you can give me.
thanks and regards
Ashley Wong
<Take a look through the wealth of information, references on these Poeciliid fishes on www.fishbase.org
Bob Fenner>

Re: more info about breeding pattern of mollies, especially around delivery time
Dear bob,
i want to share my good news with you. one of my mollies had given birth today and i was right there when it happened. it was around noontime. i had just changed some of the water and fed them and had just put in another handful of elodea when i noticed 1 baby fish swimming right past in front.
<Neat!>
right before that, i noticed that the "gravid" are of this particular molly had become very very translucent (clearish like you said) and it looked as
if it might "split" apart there. soon after that, she started "spouting" out babies. at that time, there were 3 other tankmates and i quickly took them out for they started chasing after the babies.
the birthing continued for well over 1 hr. it started around 12.50pm and finished around maybe 2.50pm. i think it was worth the sunburned i got today since i was able to observe firsthand the live delivery!!! :-)
<Congratulations>
thank you so much for your timely advice. now i am able to identify another female with a translucent gravid area (i can even see some dark shapes inside). i think maybe her time is near too.
<Yes, likely>
there are 16 live healthy babies, 7 eggs (!!!???) and 5 stillborn. why does the molly deliver eggs if they're not properly formed?
<Perhaps miscarriages, maybe part of the development, aging of this female>
was this caused by not so good conditions that i provide for them? is this normal??
<Not atypical>
thanks once again.
Ashley Wong
<You're welcome my friend. Bob Fenner>

Livebearing Toothed Carp Questions
i have two platies; one male and one female and i think that the female is pregnant how can i tell if this is true?
<You will notice this female getting much more round, and the area in front of its single bottom, midline fin (the anal fin) becoming clearer in color... even the babies eyes will be visible close to (within days) of giving birth. Do place some "spawning grass" plant material or plastic equivalent for them to hide amongst. Bob Fenner>

More info about breeding pattern of mollies, especially around delivery time
hi there,
i came across your website while looking for material on breeding behaviour of molly.
<Yikes, I've got to get more on the livebearing fishes on WWM... and soon!>
two days ago i bought 5 fat, very fat female mollies and 1 sailfin molly.
I've read that fat female molly = pregnant molly = babies fry soon.
<Mmm, not necessarily... some are "just fat" and there are varieties like "Balloon Mollies" that look grossly fat all the time... and an important note: it's not a good idea to move "very gravid" females... can cause real troubles. Right about the time of parturition ("birthing"?), the area called the vent (right after the anal fin below) should become clearish... so much so that you can actually see the babies eyes.>
i set them up in a large fish bowl complete with some gravel and elodea plant. i noticed that mollies are happy when given elodea plant to hide around. otherwise they would be lost and panicky or even sulky.
<Good point>
i kept them under observation whole of day before yesterday and yesterday morning as i was hoping to catch the birthing in action and to save a few fries. i kept my fishbowl outdoor and we have tropical climate. i missed the delivery and saw one live fry and two dead (half-eaten) fries and what looked like two small round globe of "fish eggs". you know, like those fish roe featured on Japanese sushi. orange globe with a yellow center. they broke upon touch.
<Yes... good observations. Do agree with your assessment>
i knew then some of the mollies ate the fries.
<Likely>
can you give me some advice on the behavioural pattern of pregnant mollies, especially around their delivery time? this way i can tell which molly is near her delivery time, then i can move her to another "maternity ward". i can't keep watching them every single moment and i don't want fry casualty. however not one give birth today.
<Hmm, well they do start hiding more right about these times... In actual practice it's better to under-crowd such fishes, provide plenty of cover as you have... allow the females to go into the media (Elodea) and release their young there... There are elaborate breeding traps and such... but as I stated above, often troubles moving females late in pregnancy>
all except one female mollies have distended large abdomen. the abdomen area looked stretched. i was told that a female molly can control and delay her delivery at will. is this true?
<To a certain extent, yes... and even resorb, abort the young under dire circumstances>
hope you can help me.
thanks
Ashley Wong
Malaysia
<Ah, was just diving in Pulau Redang, Malaysia a couple of months back. Be chatting. Will try to write a "Mollies Article" and post on the WetWebMedia.com site for you and others soon. Bob Fenner>

Mickey mouse fish
Hello,
I just bought two Mickey mouse fish. I believe that one is pregnant. Being new to the fish world, I was wondering what I needed to do to take care of the baby fish. Do they lay eggs or have babies? Could you please help me.
Wendy
<Ah, congratulations. These fish are livebearers, like guppies if you're familiar with those (same family). You need to provide enough hiding space for some of the young to hide... Please read through the various FAQs here: http://wetwebmedia.com/poeciliidfaqs.htm
re Livebearing fish care. 
Bob Fenner>

Re: Mickey mouse fish
I asked you yesterday about pregnant Mickey mouse fish. I have another question. How long is the fish pregnant before she has her fry? Thanks for your help.
<You would do well to read more deeply... insert the name "Platy", "Mickey Mouse Platy", "Xiphophorus maculatus"
in your search engines. How long from what point? A few weeks... Bob Fenner>

Moving Near-Birthing Livebearing Freshwater Fishes
Hi Bob.
I just ran across your web site and have a question. We just purchased and 55 gallon tank and have Danio's Platies Corydora's Guppies and one Betta. 
<Keep your eye on the Betta... lest it chew on your male guppies fins>
The Platy that I know to be pregnant is acting totally spastic. (meaning she is swimming up and down up and down then resting, then repeating the whole thing). I know when the guppies were going to drop they would lie on the bottom and not move a whole lot...even to eat. The platies vent is white and looks like it is dilated, and I can also see the eyes of the fry. 
<Ah, good vision, observation>
We just moved her to the 55 gallon and found the next morning in the 15 gallon a baby that was hers BUT VERY SMALL. I took this as a premature. But she hasn't dropped anymore. Any help would be wonderful...Thanks
<Hmm, could be this is "all there is"... Maybe the others were stillborn, or more likely consumed... I would place some live "grass" like plant material or artificial breeding medium going forward, and/or try moving the pregnant female to another system well in advance of parturition. Bob Fenner>
Cheri

Re: Moving Near-Birthing Livebearing Freshwater Fishes
Thanks for the fast response! I know I had a guppy that appeared to be miscarrying (SP) then finally died...poor thing. I'll keep an eye on her. I want to get some java moss to put in the tank...the plastic stuff that I have seems to rigid. Again thanks! Cheri
<Agreed all the way around. Please take a look through the "Plant Index" part of the site: www.WetWebMedia.com for ideas on good "baby hiding plants" like Anacharis/Elodea, Myriophyllum/Milfoil, and Ceratophyllum/Coontail or Hornwort. Bob Fenner>

Questions about my guppy fry
Mr. Robert Fenner,
My female guppy has given birth to twelve fry. I had checked a lot of websites and all the web sites said that i could feed the fry with egg
yolk. Is it true that the fry could eat the egg yolk?
<Hmm, actually the cooked egg yolk is not such a good idea... low acceptability as you know, too easily sinks and pollutes water... I would try either grinding some thin flake food between your fingers or in a mortar/pestle or just buy a dried "fry" food (Tetra makes one for livebearers like guppies, and egg-layers). There are liquid food preparations as well, but I would stick with a dried one. Do feed as often as you can (several times daily ideally) very small amounts (should be mostly consumed, little falling to the bottom. Also, do place some live plant material here... a type of bunch plant. Please read on our site: http://wetwebmedia.com/plttks.htm>
If i were to feed them with a piece of flake without tearing it to small pieces, will the fly be able to eat it? And every time I put food into the tank for
them, they don't seems to eat the food. Why?
<Not familiar, palatable>
Hope that you will e-mail me the answers. Thank you for your help.
<<Be chatting my friend. Bob Fenner>

Swordtail Pregnant?
Hi. I HAD 2 pineapple swordtails. One female and a male. The male died, but I think my female may be pregnant. It is quite large in size and has a darker area behind her stomached. In the dark area are small black dots.
<Ah... likely the eyes/pupils of soon to be baby swordtails>
I was wondering if this is the area where you see the babies or if was more near the head. Its been this way for about 3 days now. My temp. in my tank is 77. Should it be warmer? How long will it take so I know when to look for the babies? Thanx.
<Do provide some sort of "breeding grass" (real or artificial), leave the temperature where it is, and read here re others experiences with livebearers: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/poeciliidfaqs.htm
and the article, link before. Bob Fenner>

Question about mollies
Hi,
My balloon molly gave birth to about 30 babies a week and 4 days ago. Every day 3 or 4 die. There are only 3 babies left now. I had the aquarium water tested by a local pet store and they said the pH, ammonia, etc was all fine. I keep the water temperature around 76-78. The babies are in a breeding net with fake plants, and I feed them several times a day finely crushed up flake food. Do you know why they are dying or what I could do to keep the remaining 3 alive?
Thank you
Rebecca
<Is this the first "batch" your mollies have had? If so, the first few groups of young sometimes do poorly. Also, take care not to move your female mollies too close to giving birth. Please read over others experiences with these mollies, posted here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/poeciliidfaqs.htm
Bob Fenner>

Those crazy Mollies!
Dear Bob (or fellow expert),
<fellow expert Anthony in your service>
My gosh, I don't know what to do with all these babies! About 5 weeks ago my 'test fish' mollies gave birth to 12 babies. They are growing and look very healthy, but now that fish has had more babies, and I think there are about 17 new fry. 
<Did you know that some young livebearer's can reproduce at 8 weeks old!!! Perhaps we should find a recipe for mollies... hehe>
My tank is 39 gallons, and set up as brackish. The pet store said they would take the older ones, but wanted me to let them get a little
bigger so they can sell them. I read that overcrowding can cause the Sailfins not to fully develop,
<true of most/all fish>
and I think that is one of the most attractive traits of this fish. 
<with many fishes this can be partially compensated for by frequent (weekly or more often) water changes>
How long do you think it will take for these to get a little bigger,
<hard to say... roughly 6-12 weeks with good feeding and frequent water changes>
and now with these new fish is overcrowding an issue yet? 
<so very much so>
I sure would love to add other species to the tank, but I feel kind of trapped, even though I love the mollies. I wish there were a birth control pill I could just drop in the tank! 
<perhaps be content with just a male sailfin>
LOL Your response is always greatly appreciated. I know you must be very busy. Sue
<with kind regards, Anthony>

Re: Those crazy Mollies!
Thank you Anthony! Your response is GREATLY appreciated! 
<you are very welcome>
I will take your advice, and do weekly water changes. I love this hobby, I think you all do a great service to those of us who are just as excited and motivated...I hope you're getting paid! (somehow)
<in many different and wonderful ways>
...yeah, does Mollie-lemon-garlic-almandine sound good to you? LOL (with rice, of course)
<I prefer "freshwater" mollies... I'm watching my sodium intake...hehe>
{sick} just joking.. Thanks again! Sue
<best regards, Anthony>

Livebearing fish babies
How are you?
<Cheers, my friend>
I am Nader Afshar .I am engineer from Iran, I have many guppy and platy and molly , but I have a problem, my fishes [have babies] every month ,guppy and platy kids are live but the kids of mollies are sick and dead many of them every day ,why?
<is there enough salt in the parent's tank? 1.004 on a hydrometer?>
I give them (salt ,antibiotic tetracycline, Gentamycin, moldy vitamins ,and fresh water and Methylene blue ),
<the Methylene blue can be very harsh on the babies. Reduce or eliminate it temporarily to see if that doesn't improve survival. Leave all else the same>
I do any work and test very ways but I cannot take positive result , what can I do ?Is there any drug for this sick?
please help me ,thank you very much, bye
<with kind regards, Anthony>

Balloon Molly Fry
I managed to save one fry from a batch of balloon mollies. Is it supposed to look totally different from its mother and father, both silver balloon mollies? It looks black and very thin.
Thanx.
-James Kim
<This is a normal appearance. The young change as they grow, it will likely develop a into darker, more balloon-shape. Bob Fenner>

Feeder guppies (culture)
Hi Mr. Fenner:
I would like to raise my own feeder guppies for my cichlids. Could you give me any advice on this topic? Thinking about setting up just a 10 gal tank, but not sure about water parameters and such. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
<Let's see... a bigger tank would be better for production, maintenance... Frequent partial water changes (twenty percent or so weekly, while gravel vacuuming the tank... Lots of frequent, small feedings with nutritious foods (a timer with a dried-food hopper automatically sprinkling a bit ten or more times a day is a good idea). Some real filamentous