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FAQs on Pike Cichlids

Related Articles: Pike Cichlids, Oscars, Neotropical Cichlids, African Cichlids, Dwarf South American Cichlids, Cichlid Fishes in General

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Sveni Pike Cichlid compatibility – 09/26/09
I have the chance to get a sveni pike cichlid roughly 6".
<Ah, Crenicichla sveni, closely related to Crenicichla saxatilis. Nice, if shy, fish.>
Would they be compatible with some lima shovelnose catfish.
<Provided the Lima Cats weren't too big to eat them, and provided the tank had the strong, well oxygenated water flow Crenicichla sveni requires, yes, they could be combined.>
The largest is 10", then I have three smaller ones about 5" in a grow out tank.
<Hmm... very difficult to say if the 10-inch Lima is too big: you're going to have to judge this yourself. My gut feeling is they'll be fine together, but because Crenicichla are so slender, they're comparatively at more risk
of being eaten than, say, a deep-bodied cichlid of similar length. This said, Lima Cats are generally very mellow and once used to being fed "easy to catch" foods like pellets and earthworms, aren't especially predatory.
This is how public aquaria get sharks to live with smaller fish, by the way; once predators get used to regular, easy meals, they don't tend to view their tankmates as prey. If you're doing the *wrong* thing and using feeder fish, then all bets are off, because you're training your fish to attack any small fish dropped into the tank. Moreover, the use of feeder fish appears to increase aggression, which isn't going to help. I mention these issues because in some parts of the world the dangerous and hopelessly outdated idea of using cheap, store-bought feeder fish still persists, despite all the evidence that Minnows and Goldfish in particular are unhealthy, and cheap fish are disease-ridden.>
I am worried because both occupy the lower portion of the tank.
<Lima Cats are actually much happier at the mid to upper levels, provided the vertical and/or horizontal overhangs are available. With a bit of planning, you should be able to create some narrow crevices for the Crenicichla, while also providing ledges or tall plants for the Lima Cats.>
The larger tank would be a 90 gallon, footprint of 48" x 18", the grow out is a 29 gallon, footprint 30" x 12". The other thing I am worried about is either the larger catfish eating the pike, or the pike eating the smaller catfish. Would it be safe to add the pike to either of these tanks.
<As I say, depends on various factors. Cheers, Neale.>

Pike Cichlid ID/Info  - 3/16/2006
My husband and I recently purchased a Crenicichla xingu 2 and we are having a hard time finding information on this particular species.  I have found 2 pictures online, both of which are completely different from one another.  I wanted to see if you know any information on this species and if you know what exactly they will look like when full grown.  Thank you. David Fillmore
< Crenicichla sp. Xingu II comes from the Rio Xingu river in Brazil. These are one of the big ones and can get close to 18 inches when full grown. They prefer water in the mid 70's F. A pH of around 7 is fine. It is a meat eater that will take small fish as well as worms and frozen food too. It likes a tank that is not too bright that is decorated with stones roots and caves. The male is overall a faint steel blue color with the top of his head being an olive color and the bottom of the head being an off white. The female is the pretty one. She has an olive brown body with a rosy pink belly. Her fins are red and edged in white and then black. The top of the head is an olive brown but the bottom is a bright yellow gold color. This is a pretty rare species in the hobby. Most of the time the Crenicichla species Xingu I or better known as the orange pike is offered for sale. The big problem with pike is that they need clean water or they start to get sick.-Chuck>

Pike Cichlid Beat Up And Hiding
Hello, I have a 3 inch golden pike which has a  problem.  He was originally in a 55 gallon tank along with a 5  inch tiger Oscar, a 3 inch jack Dempsey, 2 inch Pleco, and a 2 inch  catfish.   The 55 gallon tank is temporary and eventually they  will be in a 90 gallon tank.  Yesterday I noticed that my pike had  some red spots on his side which I could tell were not part of his  colorization.  I spoke to a guy at the LFS who knows his stuff,  and he told me it is probably hemorrhaging, caused by the other fish who  are picking on him.  Then today I noticed that he would not come  out of his cave and when he did he got viciously attacked by the Oscar  and Dempsey.  I took him out of the tank and placed him a 10  gallon tank which I had bought recently as a quarantine tank.   However the tank has gotten a chance to cycle and has only been running  for half a day.  I placed the pike in there because I though he  wouldn't make in the 55 tank another day.  He has been in the 10  gallon for about four hours and hasn't moved at all, he's still  breathing but I don't know what to do.  Any advice that you could  lend me on this situation would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you. Jim
<Pikes really don't do too well with other aggressive cichlids. The pike cichlids mouth is for catching smaller fish. It doesn't do too well against other cichlids that may bite it and break it. Your pike is pretty tough and will probably recover from the attacks, but the tougher question is where to put it. The other fish get big but your pike will not be able to tolerate the more aggressive cichlids. Your pike will get about 18 inches when full grown s will need at least a 55 gallon tank all on his own.-Chuck>

Pike Beat Up II    
Thanks for your quick response.  However since I sent my email to  you the Pike while in the 10 gallon still hasn't moved, eaten and is  breathing  heavy and looks really stressed.  He still has the  red marking on his side. I even put so live food in the tank with him  and he didn't even acknowledge it.  When I took him out of the  other tank  (55 gl) I was treating it with quick cure for protozoan  parasites which some of the fish had especially the Oscar.  Can  the parasite from the 55 gallon be the reason for his heavy breathing  and stressed out condition.  I put PimaFix in the 10 gallon to  help him, but nothing.  Is there any medication that I should give  him that would help him recover.  Thank you in advance for your  help. Jim
< Sounds like you pike really got beat up. The Nitrofuranace will help with both bacterial and fungal infections. If you pike is listless and non-responsive you could try adding a teaspoon of rock salt per 5 gallons, but after that there is not much you can do except keep the water clean and warm (80+F).-Chuck>






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