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FAQs on Cichlid Reproduction
Related Articles: Cichlid Fishes,
Related FAQs:
African
Cichlid Reproduction, Neotropical Cichlid
Reproduction,
Angelfish Reproduction,
Discus Reproduction,
Ram Reproduction,
Flowerhorn Reproduction,
Oscar Reproduction,
Severum Reproduction,
Cichlids in General: Cichlids,
Cichlid Systems,
Cichlid Identification,
Cichlid Behavior,
Cichlid Compatibility, Cichlid Selection,
Cichlid Feeding,
Cichlid Disease, Dwarf
South American Cichlids, African Cichlids,
Angelfishes, Discus,
Chromides, Neotropical
Cichlids, Oscars,
Oscar Reproduction,
Flowerhorns,
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This started out about stocking fish... Jewelfish repro. 4/5/08
OK, I am sorry to bother you nice people again, however something new and
exciting happened today... I asked about putting the Jewels in the 10 gallon
tank and you said it was too small.
<Indeed it is.>
SO, I put them over in it to get them outta the 55 since they prefer the
soft/acid water. I planned to go get a 30 gallon tank to set up since this fish
thing has become so cool to us. I didn't plan to have them in the 10 for more
than a month. HOWEVER! Today I go into my daughters room to check out the
fish... it appears that they have left some kind of "seed" like material all
over the little pink glass bubbles that she wanted to use as gravel in her tank.
I am guessing that my fish have managed to lay eggs.
<Eggs are about 1 mm across, dark grey to off-white in colour. The fish will be
guarding them carefully, likely fanning them with their fins.>
I thought that these fish were mouthbrooders and I never expected to see eggs
really.
<No, not mouthbrooders.>
Not to mention I had no idea what either of the sexes were of these fish. Its
kinda cool though, they seem to kinda take turns swimming gently around the eggs
as if taking turns guarding them even though they are the only 2 fish in the
tank.
<Instinct is an amazing thing.>
I am hoping that I have a male and female, but still really not sure. I can say
this, the one that I considered petite looks like she lost quite a bit of weight
in her belly area now. She looks like she called "Jenny" lol. Well the other
fish is shaped a bit different than what I am calling the female, and the fin
just under his tail fin is longer than the one that I am calling a female...
also he seems to change color before my eyes like A LOT. Its crazy looking...
<Sexing Hemichromis spp. is difficult, so don't worry about it. The main
difference is the shape of the genital papillae, so if you look at those, you
should see that one is short and rounded (the female's) and the other is long
and pointed (the male's).>
But the only question I have at this point is... NOW WHAT! I would like to give
raising the babies a go but still learning about these fish... wasn't really
expecting this. I saw on the site that it is a good idea to separate the fish
once I have "wigglers" i think it said or else my babies may become food for the
adults. I plan to get a new tank set up for the Jewel parents but getting a new
tank established takes a bit of time. Is there anything I REALLY need to know
about this now, is there any advice that anyone can offer me of what I should do
next?
<Start reading here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWsubwebindex/fwbrdgmonks.htm
>
I gather that if the eggs are going to hatch it would be within the next 3-6 days?
Is the water chemistry the same as for the adults? Can you drop the name of a
good fish book to purchase? I search the web lots about these fish but I would
prefer a really nice book if you know of one out there. Sometimes I find
internet information about the fish changes from site to site. Thanks so much
and as always you guys are great!
<Rearing the fry is not especially difficult. Buy some liquid fry food (e.g.,
Liquifry) or powdered baby fish food (e.g., Hikari First Bites). Once the eggs
hatch, the fry take a few days to use up their yolk sac. You'll see the yolk as
a yellow blob. Eventually that goes, and the "wrigglers" start moving about,
looking for food. This is when you add the food. When feeding baby fish, feed
small amounts but often. Do multiple water changes, as the biggest killer of
eggs/fish is dirty water. Changing 10% every day wouldn't be a bad idea. If
you're after a book, I happen to like 'Fish Breeding' by Chris Andrews, but
there are many titles out there on the topic, as well as regular articles on
breeding in the fish magazines. Breeding cichlids is pretty consistent from one
species to the next, so anything you read about, say, breeding Angelfish holds
true for your Jewels.
http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Fish-Breeding-Interpet/dp/1842860704/ref=pd_sim_b_title_3
Good luck, Neale.>
Re: Jewel eggs almost all
gone. 4/5/08
Well, after writing in about unexpected egg laying... today I noticed that
either the 2 fish in the tank ate the eggs, or the snail did. I forgot about the
snail. I removed him just incase it was him, I only have a few eggs left. Oh
well better luck next time ... if there is a next time.... I am still going
ahead with the bigger tank idea for the Jewel cichlids only. Any suggestions on
why the fish would have ate the eggs? They seemed like loving parents lol! Still
guarding what babies are next... maybe I will end up with one baby and I can
name it "Nemo" lol! Thanks for all the help!
<Completely normal for cichlid pairs to eat the first few broods. They're
"practising" perhaps. It is also the case that if something is "wrong" in their
eyes, e.g., the tank is too small or there's some nearby disturbance, they'll
eat the eggs as well. Since cichlids will produce eggs at least once every few
weeks for their entire lives, there's no reason to be concerned. Sooner or later
you'll get more than you can do anything with! Cheers, Neale.>
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African Cichlid
Question(s)... fdg., & Cichlid repro./sex chg. beh., – 3/18/08
I have a good old friend who has a few interesting ideas on African rift
lake cichlids, so i was hoping you could clarify for me...
OK, so first off, on feeding brine shrimp, not as a staple mind you, but just
feeding brine shrimp in general, should be fine in my mind just due to the
variety of invertebrates that they must encounter in the wild.... However my
friend says NO NO NO!!! That will block up their intestines causing bloat and
they will die.... Just wondering...
<Brine shrimp are useful only as nauplii. Adult brine shrimp contain almost no
nutrition. They're the equivalent of empty calories. Useful as a source of
fibre, but that's about it. Actually more likely to clear indigestion that cause
it. In any event, it's important to distinguish the fact fish eat a wide variety
of foods from the idea they can adapt equally well to all of them. Lab work on
Oscars (Astronotus spp.) has demonstrated they are very prone to Vitamin C
deficiency in captivity. Vitamin C is largely lacking from animal foods as you
probably known. In the wild, the Oscars eat some plant matter (algae and aquatic
plants, for example) and the guts of their prey are loaded with plant material.
In other words, fish compensate for a lack in one food item by taking another
one at another time. Just because an Oscar mostly eats small fish and crayfish
in the wild doesn't mean that it can *survive* on the just those food items.
Likewise with your Mbuna: rather than worrying about the "perfect" food item,
work to vary the diet as much as possible.>
Second, he has this crazy idea that ALL cichlids have the ability to
change/morph sex.... in the case of Symphysodon discus as far as my knowledge
goes, i know this not to be true.
<Correct; so far as I know, the only species proven to be a sex-changer is
Crenicara punctulata, and indeed it is the only known strictly freshwater fish I
know of that does this.>
They are gonochirists (please do correct me if im wrong). At the same time, (btw
im a Reefkeeper at home but a fishkeeper at heart ... not to mention i manage a
LFS) in the marine world you do see these types of survival mechanisms
especially in Anemonefishes (protandric hermaphrodites).
<Indeed; much more common among marine perciforms.>
I do know that Metriaclima livingstonii from lake Malawi are protogynous
hermaphrodites and do change from female to male if males are in short supply,
but it would really seem far fetched that all African rift lake cichlids have
sex changing ability, however im not throwing that out the window completely....
ALL cichlids? no friggin way, right?
<Not aware of Maylandia/Metriaclima/Pseudotropheus spp. doing this. Where was
this published?>
thanks, Mitch
<Cheers, Neale.>
Breeding cichlids - 10/07/2007
Hello-
This is a silly question but one I am hoping you can give your opinion on:)
<Will try>
I am getting a 40 gallon bow front tank. I would like to put a breeding pair or
harem in it. My goal is to raise fry in this tank naturally. I would like to
watch the cichlids raise the babies, etc...
<Is an enlivening experience for sure>
I have the ability to get 1 male and 3 female trewavasae all full size or close
to it. I am wondering if this would work for this group to have fry successfully
in this size tank.
<Ahh, Ethylwynn's African Cichlid... Well, it may work... if the specimens are
familiar with and get along with each other currently... Otherwise, there could
be over-aggressive behavior... resulting in even losses>
Also is this the best cichlid to choose to breed if my interest is the "process"
of them having and caring for their young?
<A simple/r neotropical... Like the Convict or xanthic variety of same, the
Congo, would be an almost sure bet here>
If not what would you suggest for this tank? ( I am not interested in doing
convicts ).
<Heee! Oh... I should have read ahead of time... There are MANY choices... time
to send you for a read through WWM...>
Thank you for your help!!
Christie
<Maybe start here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlivestkindex.htm the top tray. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Breeding cichlids - 10/07/2007
Ok here are the fish that I am considering... I would love your opinion!!
Salvini, Flier, a Vieja species, Cuban (not sure of the true name),
tetracanthus, or Texas. I would only do the one pair in the tank. Do you suggest
dither fish and what about a bottom feeder?
Thank you so much for your help!!
Christie
<Hello Christie. Of these cichlids, while several are fascinating animals, one
stands out as being colorful, a nice size, an excellent parent, and relatively
easy to keep: Cichlasoma salvini. Good quality adult fish have amazing colours,
especially in breeding condition. (Juveniles are rather silvery-blue and
nondescript.) They can be sexed reasonably easily: males have pointed fins,
while females have a dark spot on the centre of the dorsal fin and another dark
spot on the gill covers. Both sexes are brilliantly coloured. They are
essentially carnivores in the wild, feeding on large insects, aquatic
crustaceans, worms, and small fish. In the aquarium they will eat all the
standard cichlid foods. Bloodworms and krill are good staples. Naturally, they
don't need to be given live fish, and for all the usual reasons I'd recommend
against it. But you can certainly give them defrosted lancefish if you wanted.
Try to vary the diet though; most fish develop their best colours the more
different things they get to eat. Wild fish apparently eat some plant matter
too, so things like tinned peas and Sushi Nori should be added to the diet to
mix things up a little. Crustaceans seem to bring out the reds in most fish, and
I'd expect this to be true here, hence unshelled crustaceans such as krill,
brine shrimp, even daphnia for small fish would be very useful. Maximum size is
said to be 20 cm (Fishbase) but I've never seen one bigger than 15 cm. As with
other Central Americans, water on the hard side with a pH around 7.5 is what
they like best. They also like slightly warmer than normal conditions: around 26
for standard care, and up to 28 C or so for breeding. Assuming you pick two fish
that form a pair bond, breeding will happen by itself. They are superb parents,
and it is perhaps best to leave them with the fry. For one thing, the parents
are said to produce mucous the fry eat. But more practically, when removed, the
male will try to spawn again, and often the female won't be up for this. In a
relatively small aquarium, she can end up being battered. Leaving the parents
with the fry "keeps their mind on the job" and the female in particular can be
fattened up over the weeks. Dither fish will likely be killed or eaten, so
aren't really an issue here. In a really big tank you could try some sort of
Central American characin I suppose, like Astyanax mexicanus. Australian
rainbows of appropriate size might work too. Cichlasoma salvini are very
aggressive but also rather shy, so dither fish could serve a purpose. But a lot
depends on the size (especially depth) of your tank, not to mention how big the
Cichlasoma salvini are when introduced. Juveniles would perhaps accept dither
fish and so ignore them once mature, but some adults might just lay right into
them. Bottom feeders are basically redundant here. The Cichlasoma salvini will
harass anything too delicate (like a loach) while an Plecostomus-type armored
catfish or medium-sized Synodontis would simply eat any fry or eggs produced. I
hope this helps, Neale>
Re: Breeding cichlids - 10/07/2007
You guys are awesome!! Thank you for taking the time to answer my question
so thoroughly! Salvini was what I was leaning towards and you confirmed it:)
Christie
<Glad we could help. Hope you have success with your breeding project! Neale>
Cichlid Eggs, crossbred African... and neotropical? 5/7/07
I have an aquarium with about 5 African cichlids and one pink convict. The
pink convict laid eggs, and I think that my yellow African cichlid if the
'father'. I was just wondering a few things. How long does it usually take the
eggs to hatch?
<About four days>
Will the other cichlids in the tank eat the fry?
<Will try, yes>
What is the crossbreed between the African cichlid and the pink convict cichlid
called?
<Mmm, make a name up...>
If you could send me a quick email back, that would be great.
Thank you!
Kelsey
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/cichlidreprofaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Breeding... cichlids 4/21/07
Hi,
First I must say wonderful website.
<Thank you, is a brilliant resource>
Question #1
I have a 45 gallon cichlid tank, my fish rarely breed (4 times in 3 years) a few
weeks ago I switched from Hikari cichlid excel to frozen blood worms and within
a week I have 7 new little ones!!! Also the babies were born after not feeding
the fish for four days (went away on an emergency). So what caused the babies
the new food or the not feeding for four days?
<Most likely a combination of both. Depending on the species..?…different
environmental and routine changes can act as triggers for spawning e.g. raise in
temperature, slight change in pH, change of food! This is dependent on the
species and the water system they are from in the wild>
Question #2
I just noticed two of the fish doing the breeding process (eggs in mouth) should
I feed the tank while this is going on??? Or will she spit the eggs out for the
food???
<She will have to remove them to feed. There would be a much-improved chance of
the fry surviving if they were in their own tank, or a breeding vessel inside
your display tank where they will be safe and have better access to specific
food. It will take something for them to be successfully raised in the main tank
whether or not they are spat out in this manner, other opportunities to become
food>
As you can tell I want babies!!
<
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/afcichreprofaqs.htm - much written
on the raising of Cichlid fry, take more time to read>
Thank you very much
<Pleasure and good luck with your endeavours, Olly>
Breeding Cichlids-Rule Number 1-You need A Pair! 9/9/06
Hi. I'll tell you about my cichlids first. I forget how many I had last
time I e-mailed you (that's a bit sad). But now I have 2. 1 orange one and
the one that described to you as a figure eight puffer. The orange one is a
male and the other is a female. He was making a nest again but I cleaned the
gravel today and kind of destroyed it. Would they breed?
< An orange cichlid will not breed with a figure 8 puffer.>
Right now I feed my fish mixed up food. They eat cichlid pellets from the
animal planet brand (I never knew they had a brand), cichlid sticks, their
old food, cut up Tubifex worms, cut up cichlid salad, variety wafers (for my
Pleco), and cichlid flakes. I wonder if I could trade in my female for an
orange female, what do you think?
< Matching up species increases the likely hood of getting a breeding
pair.-Chuck>
I put a pot in the tank the male likes it. Oh! And I gave them a plant a
while ago, and it's bare right now, some are growing back, and it's still
alive so there's nothing to worry about. My catfish. I love my catfish, no
matter how many times they stink up my room, no matter how many times they
try to kill themselves (on accident of course) I will love those pink little
fish with whiskers. So as you can see they smell and they are suicidal. They
are in a 2.5 gallon tank. Right now they are almost longer than my cichlids
(3 3/4" maybe). They have a filter but I had to put nylon over the bottom
because they would hide in it and get sucked up. Then whenever I would catch
them with the net they would crawl up, the last time I cleaned their tank 2
of them jumped out! Last month they started getting stripes, so that's going
to help me identify them including that they are air breathing cats. In
their tank there is 4 artificial plants (bottom lily pad-like, something
tall, something bushy, and something short, so they have many levels) and 2
ornaments. They spend most of their time under the rock in the tank. They
hate it when I turn on the light so I rarely turn it on. Food. They have
their food mixed with other food together also, but I don't really feel like
typing it all but it does have fry food and bottom feeder food.
veronica
Ways to avoid breeding? 8/25/06
Hello, and thanks for a very helpful site!
< Howdy! Bob and the crew do a wonderful job! >
I have set up a 20 gallon tank, which is cycling now (no fish yet).
< Good idea. >
I'm considering stocking it with some small varieties of cichlids. This is
not a hard and fast choice, but I am considering them because my tap water is
hard (about 120ppm total) and with a high pH (about 8.4).
< It is wonderful to see you have researched your water source before purchasing
the wrong types of fish. >
My concern is primarily this - I keep reading about their breeding habits, and
while it sounds fascinating, I simply do not have the real estate at my disposal
to accommodate the resulting fry.
< Quite understandable. >
Is there a configuration I can keep that will be less likely to breed (like
all females)?
< The idea is sound, but unfortunately, they are not easy to determine sex at a
young age. >
If I did find myself with lots of offspring, what could I
feasibly do with them?
< Most fish stores will gladly accept locally grown fish as trade for food and
supplies. >
And are there any other varieties of fish I could keep in my present water
conditions where this would be less of an issue?
< Possibly some brackish water fish? >
I want whatever fish I end up with to be happy and comfortable in their home,
but I don't feel like I can support an endless baby factory either! Any advice
would be greatly appreciated - thanks!
< Consider some cichlids from Lake Tanganyika. Most of them stay fairly small,
and if you chose members from different genera, they would not be as likely to
breed. Good luck, and best wishes, RichardB >
-Tara
Breeding Size for Convict Cichlids 5/27/06
Hello. Your site is most amazing! I have a question though. My question is
about the size of a convict. What is the minimum size of a convict to start
breeding?
< Around one inch.>
Right now I have a 20 gallon that is bare with only a few big rocks. I will be
adding rocks soon. I bought my Convicts today and the male is already trying to
breed with the female, but the female flares back and follows a short distance
to the males cave, but trails off for some algae to graze on. I'm thinking that
the male is about one inch, and the female is also one inch. Is this size
suitable for both male and female to breed at this size?
< Get ready for a spawning.-Chuck>
Thanks for your big help. Sean
Cichlids Really Breeding Or Just Sick
- 04/05/2006
Hi! I have a 40 gal tank with a Convict pair, Jack Dempsey pair, and a
Green Terror pair. They are all about 1.5 to 2 inches each. The Green Terror
female and my Convict female both seem to be expecting. I have never seen
behavior like this. They lay on the rocks and on top of the caves almost
hovering. They are also very plump. Although I have seen not one egg from
either, their respective males are right with them. How long does it take to
lay the eggs? The convict has been this way for about a week, but the Dempsey I
just notices today. Thanks Chelle
< A 2 inch green terror is probably too small to breed. If conditions are right,
clean water, good food and good nutrition, then they should breed in a couple of
weeks. Even with eggs the females should be up and about eating and defending a
territory from the other fish. If they are not eating or acting normal then I
would start to think that they are sick with an internal bacterial infection and
need treating with Metronidazole.-Chuck>
Green Terrors Won't get Along - 03/29/2006
Hi crew. Thank you for all the timely help. It has been of great use for
me. I have now got stuck up with a problem. I have a pair of green terrors
and the problem is that the female is being bullied by the male. I cannot
remove them from my tank as the tank is full of decorations. How can I get
them adjusted to each other. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank
you
<Green terrors like other large cichlids get very territorial when they get
older. Other fish compete for resources like food and shelter. Males will
allow females into their territory if they are ready to breed. If not, then
they are chased away until they are ready to breed. You could try lowering
the temp to the mid 70's and rearrange the decorations. If that does not
work then get a tank divider before he kills her.-Chuck>
Turtle Age And Spawning Green Terrors 3/20/06
Hi crew. Thanks for the earlier help. I have recently purchased a red year
slider turtle.1)! wanted to know how can I calculate its age. Its about
2 inches.
< It is probably a hatchling that was hatched about a year ago last spring.>
2)My green terrors are not spawning. What can I do to stimulate them to spawn.
any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanking you
< Feed them heavily with good food like live washed earthworms. The n do big 50%
water changes while vacuuming the gravel. Raise the water temp to 82 F.-Chuck>
About Euthanasia, Culling Frontosa - 03/13/2006
I have 7-Stripe Frontosas and when there are fry, they are not all perfect,
I try only to sell the perfect 7-stripes, so I am stuck with the bad striped
ones, I have a tank with just bad stripe that are sizes from 1 inch to 4 or more
inches I figured that I can't keep doing this (keeping all the bad stripes) and
the only way I will cull them is with MS-222. I just received a bottle from a
company on the Internet, ( which I never thought I would be able to) but this is
what I want to know, I am not a chemist (that's why I am writing you ha!) I
wanted to know in terms, like how many tablespoons to how many gallons, and how
do I know it they are just sleeping or dead? Do you know or do you know someone
that would know more about this? I really appreciate your time, Thank you
< First of all not all frontosa in the lake have perfect stripes. While diving
in Lake Tanganyika a few years ago we noticed that many frontosa have variable
striping patterns. Ad Konings is a world famous photographer of rift lake
cichlids. In his business he sells books, and pictures sell books. He gets the
best photos of the best fish he can find. Aquarists often expect all the wild
fish to match the photos in the books and are disappointed when they are not.
You have made a personal choice to only sell fish that have perfect markings.
Many aquarists would try and sell them off to make a profit but it is nice to
see someone that has integrity and concerned about the fish they wish to promote
in the hobby. MS222 (tricaine methanosulfanate, 3-aminobenzoic acid ethyl ester)
is a carcinogen (causes cancer). I would recommend a much safer
alternative. Place the fish you wish to kill in 17 to 34 ounces of aquarium
water and add two Alka-Seltzer tablets. The fish will go to sleep and eventually
die. Since you are not a chemist and may not be aware of how to safely
administer the MS222 please try the WWM recommended method first. We withheld
your name by request but felt that your question was very important to other
aquarists and they would benefit by the reply.-Chuck>
Thank you, I will check more, but let me know if you find any thing out, Thanks
again!
Breeding Green Terrors - 03/13/2006
I have a young pair of green terror cichlids. About a week ago they spawned
together and the eggs hatched. At this point they dug a hole through the
gravel to the under-gravel filter and moved the "wigglers" onto the surface
of the under-gravel filter. Obviously, the wigglers were sucked through the
filter where the immediately ceased wiggling. I have since removed the
under-gravel filter to prevent this in future spawns. I was just wondering
how soon I can expect the fish to spawn again. Also, is this problem common with
and under-gravel filter?
< They will spawn again in a couple of weeks if the conditions are right, maybe
sooner. Cichlid aquarists don't use undergravel filters for those exact
reasons.-Chuck>
Thanks,
Dan
Breeding Flowerhorns - 1/30/2006
Hi, I've been reading your forum and it has informed me a lot, but still
there are some questions that I have to ask. I am trying to breed my flower horn
fish. I have a 35 gallon tank that has colored pebbles on the bottom with a 4x2
inch pot in the female side. I know that I have a pair with me right now and I
did put them together in the same tank for almost a year now (with no divider),
yes they would fight sometimes, some times I see my female getting worked but
lately I noticed that the female has a big tummy with the straw sticking out her
tummy, she was very red, and I saw the male got worked pretty bad, he lost his
tail fins and scales. As a matter of fact he really got weak, so I divided them
with a glass divider, now they mind each others business. The female had a big
tummy for almost a month now and she lost the straw under her belly I don't see
no eggs, but I see a pebble like cocoon that I know it came from her.
My question is, how long before she would lay eggs and what is that cocoon like
thing that I see on the bottom of the tank? By the way it is color white and is
about half an inch looks like a pebble but am sure its not. When can i take out
the divider and would the eggs mature even they are separated by a divider?
Please I've me more info on hoe to successfully breed my flower horn.. I really
need a lot of help, this is my first time to own a fish, any kind of fish. Eriq
< To get the fish ready do a 50% water change, and clean the filter. Get the
water temp up to 82 F. When you are going to be home for awhile to watch them,
pull the tank divider and watch them. If they start to act like a couple then
you can leave them alone for awhile. If they are going at it then you will need
to separate them and try again later. Don't know what the pebble thing is. Get
it out of the tank.-Chuck>
Baby Cichlid Fry Won't Stay Alive. 1/30/06
Hi I have a 50 gallon aquarium and I have a 3 male and 4 female
cichlids. They are silver with a black stripe. The problem is that when the eggs
starts to hatch and then after 2 days they will die. I have had this
problem going on for about 10th time now and I tried to separate them in a
small aquarium they died then too. I don't know what to do. thanks ,
< After the eggs are laid they will usually hatch in three days at 80 F. They
are born with an egg sack and this feeds the fry for another three days. When
the eggs sack is absorbed they need to be fed fine food many times a day or they
will quickly starve. Many aquarists hatch out some baby brine shrimp for their
fry. Go to fishbase.org and see if you can identify your fish. Some species of
cichlids have fry that are too small for baby brine shrimp and require smaller
foods.-Chuck>
Breeding Jack Dempseys 1/27/06
I had three Jack Dempseys given to me. Two were 2 inches 1 was 3
inches. The 3" killed one of the 2". so, the small one that was left had
babies.....like 100 or so. They are now 4weeks old. Most of them
survived. The 2" inch is now latching on to the lips of the 3" jack Dempsey and
won't let go unless I separate them. I wanted to know if I could put the 3" in
my larger tank 60 gallons, with 2 orange cichlids (4in)and 1 terror (5 in.) and
a catfish (8in) and some algae eaters (3and 4 in)? and any tips on the 85 baby
jack Dempseys, they always seem to be hungry I have to feed them 3 times a day!!
They are still in a tank with the mother, the tank is 10 gallons. (the babies
are about 1/4 in to 1 inches they are all different sizes in between) Monica
Sandoval
< When you move a new fish in with fish that are already established , it is a
good idea to rearrange the aquascaping so all the fish are looking for a new
territory and not just defending the old ones. Time to move the babies to a tank
of their own. This tank is way too crowded with all the babies.-Chuck>
Feeding Jack Dempsey Fry 1/30/06
What should I be feeding the babies and how much?
<Jack Dempsey babies are pretty easy to raise. They do well on baby brine
shrimp, microworms and finely crushed flake food.>
I am setting up a 30 gal tank today to move the babies into a new home, what is
really important to have in the new tank to start?
<Use Bio-Spira to get the bacteria going on the filter. You have already
experienced high nitrogenous waste problems because the fish are already many
different sizes. Watch for ammonia and nitrite problems.>
I have never had so many survive before.
< If you put the adults together you will have another chance in a couple of
weeks.-Chuck>
Breeding Convicts 1/26/06
Hi crew. I have two questions?
1) I have a pair of a convicts. A pink male and black female. They are about
3.5inches long. They have spawned about 5-6 times. The LFS keeper says that they
won't spawn again as the number of fry has decreased in the last spawn. Is it
true?
< They will spawn again. It is just a matter of time and conditioning.>
I love my convicts and want them to reach the max. size of 6inches. Should I
separate the pair and grow them separately as they are 1.5 yr old and have not
reached their maximum size?
< Your convicts will either put their resources towards reproduction or growing.
Separate them and they will grow faster than if you kept them together and they
continued to spawn every few weeks.>
2)Will feeding large amount of live brine shrimps to the fry cause gill flukes
or any other disease?
<No.-Chuck>
Any help will be greatly appreciated. thanking you.
Breeding Flowerhorn Cichlids 1/20/06
Greetings! I am Leo Ilagan of the Philippines. I'm a new flower horn
hobbyist and I would really appreciate it if you could help me out with
some of my questions. First, Is it true that I can breed two flower horns even
with a divider between them and a small space beneath it?
< Yes, it is possible to breed substrate spawning cichlids using the divider
method. This is often done with plastic egg crate type material purchased from a
hardware store in 4'x2' sheets.>
Second, is it still necessary to put gravel, plants, rocks or any other form of
decoration in my tank?
< Some aquarists have had better luck using a flower pot or a rock as a focal
point for the spawn. It not used they will lay the eggs on the glass and then
they cannot be removed and hatched artificially.>
Third, I have a flower horn who remains small even after a month and I would
like to ask if after separating him from the larger ones, could he still grow to
his potential size and form?
< Females stay usually smaller than the males. You could also have a "runt" that
genetically will not grow to the size of the others.>
And last, does chipped skin or scales grow back after being bitten by fellow
flower
horns?
< Usually the scales will grow back but maybe not as nicely patterned as the
original scales .-Chuck> Hope you can help me and I'm glad I found your website.
Many thanks
in advance.
Firemouth Female Worn Out After Breeding 12/28/05
Hi, I have a 420 litre freshwater tank with a pair of firemouths and a pair
of convicts. Recently the firemouths have bred and the female has been
guarding the fry, but she has not been eating. Today I found her lying
prostrate on the bottom of the tank, having abandoned the fry, and only
taking the occasional swim around the tank. I have moved her into a 170
litre quarantine tank because the convicts were beginning to attack her.
The water quality is all fine, but she does appear to have symptoms similar
to an intestinal obstruction. I was wondering if it is possible that she
may have had an obstruction with the ovipositor when she was laying eggs,
possibly leading to an infection? All the other fish are fine and healthy
and showing no signs of illness or distress and as I said the water
conditions are perfect. I am running a Sacem marathon 1500 canister filter
@ 1600l/h and a UV sterilizer and a 2000l/h internal filter. This is also
the first time she has bred, could this be a factor in that she was too
attentive to her eggs/fry and neglected her own health by not coming out to
eat ? Thanks for your help.
< Breeding takes it toll on fish , especially the females. You are probably
seeing a female that have lost a lot of body weight by laying eggs as well as
guarding them to the very end. In her weakened state she may have come down with
an internal bacterial infection. Separate her and treat her with Metronidazole.
You might try and scatter some blackworms in the tank and get her back some body
weight.-Chuck>
Red Devil Cichlid Without A Mate 12/26/05
Hello, Great Site!
< Thanks, We like it too.>
I have a solitary female Red Devil in a 80 gallon
tank. She laid a LOT of eggs on her black pipe (her cave). I am curious if laying eggs without a mate present is normal behavior?
Will the eggs just sit there forever? Will they eventually come off
and get filtered out? She's incredibly aggressive right now, and I'm
concerned about how she will be when her eggs don't hatch.
< In 24 hrs or less the eggs will fungus or die. They will decompose and be
picked up in the filter. Females in good shape will do this even without a male
present. After the eggs are gone she will calm down until she does it again.
maybe in two weeks.-Chuck>
Cichlids Breeding With Nothing To Show For It 12/22/05
Hello! I hope very much that you may be able to advise me.
I have a pair of Central American Cichlids - Fenestratum. I acquired the large,
aggressive male fish after he was introduced to a friends established cichlid
aquarium and was beaten up by the other fish when he bullied them and
they ganged up on him. He spent a few days recovering in an "intensive care"
cooler/cool box/esky and then continued his convalescence in the new and huge
tank that I bought to accommodate him. I rather enthusiastically bought him a
wife, slightly smaller than him at 6 inches ( he is about 8 or 9 inches) When I
bought her she was full of eggs and very keen, and almost immediately they laid
a small batch of eggs and successfully nurtured them for several weeks,
displaying for my delight all the intricacies of cichlid courtship, breeding and
parental care behaviour. Eventually the babies started to be threatened by the
bored? father and I removed them to a small tank to grow. My problem is this. My
adult fish continue to repeatedly lay batches of eggs, but none have been
successful hatched since the first "beginners luck" batch. After they have
lost/eaten a batch of eggs. He cools off towards her and can injure her or force
her into hiding so I keep them separated with a transparent tank divider until
they are ready again. It takes them 2-3 weeks before they are "friends" again
and 2-3 days to court and lay. Usually about 90% of the eggs in a batch go white
and fungus, and a very small proportion will hatch, but I think the fish feel it
is wasteful to invest in only 10 or 20 wrigglers and eat them at this point.
These fish are and have been the only fish in the tank. They are otherwise
completely healthy, with healthy appetites. They seem to do everything right in
terms of general and breeding behaviour according to my Central American cichlid
books (Konings and Conkel) They have both grown visibly since I have had them. I
keep the tank clean and tidy, but not over clean it. I have a good quality
established external canister filter running. I feed them a varied diet of 3
different types of cichlid food plus meal worms, and try not to overfeed ( they
are always hungry) I keep them at the recommended temperature. In the 4 months
that I have had them I have treated them once with an ich remedy and water
changed twice since, and given a handful of doses of melafix tea tree remedy for
injuries, but otherwise no meds in there. My question is this. Has one of them
become infertile, and if so which one and why, and is there anything I can do to
improve this? I was utterly delighted when they seemed such perfect fish parents
so soon after I got them, and I have been very disappointed that everything has
gone downhill since. The original babies are now about 2 inches, and there are
very few of them left. I am reluctant to part with them if I will never have any
more to enjoy. I am so grateful for your wisdom.
< Do a 50% water change, vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Add carbon to
remove any left over medication. I suspect your problem is high nitrates from
only doing two water changes in 4 months. Do weekly 25% water changes to control
nitrates. The melafix may be affecting the sperm of the male and somehow prevent
them from getting to the eggs. Cichlids usually spawn every couple of weeks when
the female is ready. Watch them closely when you put them together so he doesn't
kill her.-Chuck>
Getting the babies... Convict Cichlids 12/16/05
Hey Bob, nice website you got. I was just wondering, how do you get the
babies out of the tank?
<Usually just netting them, sometimes they can be siphoned... sometimes removing
the parent/s, other livestock instead...>
Right now they're in a 40 gallon tank with the parents and another convict. They
don't really bother each other, only till they get near each other, that when
they start to bug each other. But I did look at the article about convict
cichlids, and I read that you have to use an airline tubing to get the babies
out of there and into their own tank. Can I use the same tubing I use to clean
the tank with?
<Yes... but with Convicts, best to remove the parents, leave the young in place
till they're larger... dime-sized or bigger>
Or do I use airline tubing? And how big does the tank for the fry have to be?
Can I use a one and a half gallon? Or do I buy a 5 gallon?
<"Bigger"... the better>
Well I hope I did not ask to much for just getting the babies out. And your site
still rocks!!!!! Sean
<Because of folks like ourselves writing back and forth. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Too Much Of A Good Thing, Or Be Careful What You Wish For! 12/5/05
Hello, I wrote in July and announced the hatching of babies for my Severum couple. I have now had 2 batches and still have the nursery of fish in with
the parents. I have relocated 75 babies and I am moving the others as possible. I have watched the babies for the last couple of months continuously swim
behind the daddy fish. He positions himself nose down a lot of the time in the tank. He can and does swim correctly and eats very well but is
noticeably vertical at times. What can this be?
< The male is using his ventral fins to signal the fry.>
Do you know a good way of getting homes for the approximately 150 other babies? Thanks for the
help. Debbie
< When the fry are about 1 1/2 inches long you can start to call pet shops and tropical fish stores in your area and see if you can sell or trade some of the fry. They may take some and you can make a couple of bucks out of the deal. Go Aquabid.com and see if you want to sell them over the internet. Their may be a local aquarium society in which you can place some of the fry up for auction at a meeting. Their is a national club called the American Cichlid Association that can be found at cichlid.org. They have a publication they put out called the Trading Post in which members can buy and sell fish. Lots of possibilities. Sometimes these big New World cichlids will produce thousands of fry and take care of a market for the entire country.-Chuck>
Egg Eating Rams Moving to New tank 12/1/05
Hi there and thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
I have a 25 gallon freshwater with 1 pleco, 3 gold rams, 1 curviceps cichlid
<<Chuck, or anyone else, if you get a chance, would you provide me with
the genus and species of this animal? Marina>>
<<<Flag cichlid. Used to be Aequidens curviceps, is now
Laetacara curviceps .>>>
and 2 African butterfly cichlids, 2 plants, a large rock/cave, piece of wood on slate and a small bridge. 2 of the rams have had eggs 4 times thus far and each time the eggs are eaten/disappeared usually when I wake up in the morning and after usually 2 days. The butterfly cichlids I purchased about 4 weeks ago have just laid their second batch of eggs. The first batch had the same fate as the ram eggs. Any idea's of what I can do to try to help them keep the eggs? Should I try an egg light (read that on your site)?
< After spawning the fish are exhausted and have expended a lot of energy to spawn and have worked up an appetite. Try to keep them well fed with lots of baby brine shrimp or micro worms. Egg eating is a problem for these species and they can get into a habit of eating eggs that is hard to break. the eggs could be removed and hatched
artificially.>
I am also purchasing a 55 gallon that I would like to move most of the occupants too, but still keep one of the mated pairs in the old 25 gallon. What is the best way to get the new tank safely cycled and not damage the old tank or kill any of my fish when they get moved?
< Take some of the old gravel and place it in the new tank. The bacteria in the old tank are needed to get the bacteria in the new tank going. Add new fish slowly over a week or so. Quarantine any new fish from the store for at least a couple of weeks before adding them to an established tank.>
Is it possible to run the new filter for the 55 gallon on the 25 gallon without doing any harm to the fish and using the old 25 gallon filter with the new tank to help the process? Should I move some of the substrate and/or plants, ornaments?
< Swapping filters for awhile will not harm anything.>
Thank you for any help you can provide, I really appreciate it. Your site is a great resource, thanks for all the time and work you all put into
it. Troy
< Thanks for your kind words.-Chuck>
Breeding Apistogramma cacatoides 12/1/05
I have a 20G tank with 3 females and 1 male. It is planted, ph is around 6.2.
Water hardness is around 4 kh. There are also 6 Flame tetras in the tank. I have tried but cannot get the Apisto's to breed. Also the temp is around 76f and they are fed a variety of frozen
foods (Bloodworms, Brine Shrimp, White Mosquito Larvae). I also use a Hagen
CO2 system and nitrates run around 10 to 15 ppm. Is there anything else that might encourage them ? Thanks Dean Smith
< Raise the water temp to 80 F. Provide numerous small caves at scattered locations throughout the bottom of the tank. These little cave spawners spawn in rolled up dead leaves in the wild. When they spawn the female will turn bright yellow and be guarding the area.-Chuck>
White Worms With Baby Fish 12/1/05
Hi, I am currently breeding Ps. demasoni. Tonight, when I stripped the female
of her fry (still with egg pouch attached), into a small, plastic breeding container, what I noticed with the babies was tons of these little white
worms. They obviously came out of the mothers mouth with the babies. My question is, is this a parasite, and if so, will it hurt the babies or other
fish, and should I expect this parasite to be in my tanks, i.e., in my other fish as well? What do I do?
< This is not normal. I am guessing that these may be gill flukes. Treat with Fluke-Tabs. This will get rid of any
invertebrates in the tank.-Chuck>
Fluke-Tabs With Fry 12/2/05
Really cool. Thanks. I'll try that. But will fluke tabs hurt my babies?
They still have the egg pouch.
<I have not heard of any problems with fry, but to be safe you could put the fry in another container while you treat the main tank.-Chuck>
Convicts and Genetics - 10/30/2005
I have 3 breeding pairs of black convict cichlids, two of which have babies at the moment. My smallest pair have their babies right in the front of the tank (babies are 3-4 weeks old) and I've noticed that maybe 10 of the babies seem to be pink. The other couple has all black babies and most of the pair in fronts babies have the
beginnings of black lines too. This is their first brood so I don't have any past experience to draw on. I'm wondering; is it possible to get naturally
occurring pinks?
<Mm, by "naturally occurring" if you mean an original natural mutation, not highly likely.>
I was told in order to get pinks I'd need one parent to be pink and that the brood would hatch equal parts each color.
<Mm, actually, I believe this "pink" trait is recessive.... Basically, your pair that has some pink offspring are both heterozygous for this trait - they carry the gene for the color, but do not exhibit it. Thus, roughly 25% of their offspring will exhibit that trait. 25% of them will be homozygous for the black trait and not carry the pink trait. 50% of them will carry the trait but not show it. A pair consisting of one pink fish and one heterozygous black fish would have 50% heterozygous fry that carry the trait but do not exhibit it, and 50% pink fry. A pair consisting of one pink fish and one fish homozygous for the black gene would have all fry heterozygous for the trait - they'd all carry the pink gene, but none would show it.>
I have found TONS of info on convict breeding, but nothing on natural albinos or how the gene begins. I'd love to hear your thoughts and I'd be happy to send pictures once they get a little bigger. -Anna
<Sounds like you're having great success with them. Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Moving Jack Dempsey Fry 10/13/05
I have a question. I currently have 2 Jack Dempseys who have recently bred.
The spawn is about a week old now and are growing pretty well . They are in a 29 gallon right now they get flake food 2 times a day and blood worms once a
day. Is there anything else I should be feeding them ?
< The fry should get some baby brine and micro worms.>
Not only that but they are still in a tank with their parents who are first time breeders will they be ok or should they be moved.
< Move them soon or they will be eaten.>
I'm a little concerned with moving them so if it is a wise idea I was thinking of moving the parents but I
don't want to
disturb their breeding grounds either what is the best suggestions for this?
< Siphon the fry out into a bucket with airline tubing with water from the original tank.-Chuck>
Convict Basics 10/6/05
I have tried to find book on how to breed convict cichlids, I am not a beginner on aquariums, however I want to expand and start breeding tropical freshwater fish! I want to find a book containing atmosphere, tank size, temperatures, "decorations", and basically all I need to know on breeding
these "Tank
Criminals", if you could help in any way please email me back with some
response, thank you very much for you time.
< To breed convicts you need a pair. Males are larger than females with longer
fins. Females often have a orange patch on the belly area. When they are about 2
inches you can feed them very well on some live or frozen food. Do big 50% water
changes. Keep the water around 80 to 82 F. This will get them to spawn. The eggs
hatch in three days and the fry become free swimming in another three. At this
stage they need to be fed baby brine shrimp, micro worms, and crushed flake
food. They should separated from the parents at this stage. Good
luck.-Chuck.>
Reed
Strange Convict Breeding Behaviour 9/20/05
Hi, thanks for reading my post. I have a female convict that has been with 3
males over the past 2 months but nothing has ever happened after they each pair
up, dig a site, and presumingly after they lay and fertilize eggs. Since I doubt
there is anything wrong with the 3 males. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE FEMALE IS
DROPPING FLAWED EGGS?
Currently, the poor male spends his entire waking hours with eyes glued on the
eggs, as if the eggs are going to hatch any second. But it's been 8-10 days
now. Also, the female has now started to engage in some "two-timing" by getting
very friendly with her "Original" male mate. CAN SOMEONE COMMENT ON THIS
SITUATION? Sabrina? Thank You so much. Tony
< Males are usually larger than the females and have longer fins. Most females
have an orange patch on the belly areas. At 82 F the eggs should hatch in three
days. Do a 50% water change, vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Pick one
male and leave her with the female. Feed them heavily with black worms or small
washed earthworms. After they spawn the eggs should hatch in three days.
Unfertilized eggs turn white and soon fungus. The newly hatched fish resemble a
small wiggling mass for an additional three days. After that they absorb their
egg sac and become free swimming and require small food like newly hatched brine
shrimp. If you don't get any fry with this male then swap him out for another
after a couple of attempts. I suspect that the males are so busy fighting over
the female that none of them has the time to fertilize the eggs.-Chuck>
Convict Breeding Question - II - 09/16/2005
Since I'm retired, about all I do all day is take part in this
interesting hobby.
<Sabrina here, in Bob's stead, and envious of your use of time! Wish I
could do that.>
14-16 inches of (cichlid) fish in a 39 gallon tank doesn't seem like a
lot.
<A mating pair can terrorize and even kill the other fish. Even if none
pair up to spawn, these guys will really peat each other up.>
I have a carrying Yellow lab in my only extra tank so I would have to
buy another convict breeding tank. But like I said, it's a pretty peaceful
environment with the other convicts rarely venturing 3/4 the way across the
tank. But since convicts don't have "egg spots" like their African cousins, if
you could just tell me how the fertilization process is accomplished, I'd surely
appreciate it.
<These are not mouthbrooders, hence no egg spots. The female will lay
part of the clutch, and the male will fertilize.... they usually will spawn in
a cave, under an overhang, or in a pit if no other suitable structure is
available. If a pair successfully spawns in this tank, the remaining fish are
likely to be quite damaged. I'm not confidant that a pair can/will spawn,
however, with the increased stress of having so many conspecifics about. Keep
in mind, a single pair's territory in the wild can consist of several square
feet of surface area.... Pack them in like this, and they're not going to
behave naturally.>
Thanks Again !!
<Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Cichlid Fry Flying Away 7/26/05
Hello, Unbeknownst to me, my black convict and tiger cichlids have
reproduced in my
55 gallon tank. I have never experienced this joy, and have some
questions/concerns. I observed the wrigglers swim to the top, but they
proceeded to morph into insects (white in color, six legs, obviously, and a
pair of wings) at the surface. I have been feeding frozen bloodworms, and
wonder if that may be an explanation, i.e. could it be larvae from the worms??
< Cichlid fry don't change species and turn into insects. It is probably the
worms or mosquitoes.>
I noticed the eggs yesterday and they happened to hatch today, so the
tankmates have all been moved, save for my 4-inch Pleco. I do know, however,
that this is the first spawning attempt, and am curious as to what the process
is as a whole. In other words, after the eggs hatch, how will the fry look (
not concerned about coloring/patterns, but more so the shape and size,
primarily)? Should I move the "fry" to a tank of their own if I find one that
doesn't morph? Is it normal for the fry to change in such a way (I assume the
answer is, "NO," but again, I have never seen such a process in action)?
< New World cichlids like your are substrate spawners and lay their eggs on hard
surface. If the eggs are fertile they usually hatch in three days at around 80
F. After 3 days the wriggles become free swimming and need to be fed baby brine
shrimp or crushed flake food. The fry should be removed from the parents within
the next week so the parents don't eat them.>
Please understand that I am new to this, and my philosophy is the only stupid
question is the one not asked. I have read your forum thoroughly, and really
appreciate the knowledge contained within; I did not find the answers I was
seeking and opted to e-mail to see what the heck is going on in that tank of
mine. Thanks in advance for any info you can provide. Helen Graf-Blough
< I am surprised that the cichlids don't eat the insect larva. Use fluke-tabs to
get rid of them in the aquarium.-Chuck>
Green Terror Fry 7.24.05
We had a great group of little green terrors about 2 weeks old. The dad
guarded them from the beginning. We removed Mom and let dad take over.
Once the fry were able to swim around, the Dad ate them, all of them. Is this
normal? It was the first set the mom and dad had.
Any idea how long it will be before they mate again?
Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks! Dana
<It happens. I have a pair of angels that like to take care of their eggs for
about a week then eat them. I'm convinced they are just raising them until the
are ripe enough to eat. Your terrors will most likely breed again in the next
few months, just provide warm clean water and they should take care of the
rest. I would try leaving both parents to raise the young this time and see if
you have more success. -Gage>
Re: green terror fry - dad ate them :( 7/29/05
Thanks a great deal. I spent the day frustrated yesterday, felt like going
fishing but decided against it and just traveled north up 95. I had to leave
or the daddy green terror was fixing to become filleted Oscar treats.
We bought a tank back in January to break the monotony of the house and
office. Now we have 4 tanks running and just bought another one yesterday.
We have an Arowana that outgrew his first tank fairly quickly.
<I see>
Hopefully the Terrors will breed again.
<Almost undoubtedly>
They were my favorite from the
beginning and we have 3 alone in one tank. The two bigger ones, male and
female are of a lighter colored breed, and the smaller one, the actual dad
is blue and more colorful. It would of been interesting to see the babies
and what color they would of been.
<Likely a mix of all types>
It's a flip of the coin on leaving mom and dad next time. I think once they
can swim, they're going about life on their own. Is this an ok move?
<Yes, one approach>
I'd
hate to let an Oscar go in that tank if they eat the babies again. If I did
want to get mean, I do have a 4 inch black convict that could teach them all
a lesson.
Thanks for the input!
Dana
fishchairs.com
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Jaguar Cichlid and Jack Dempsey? 7/11/05
Hello,
<Hi there>
I have a 55 gallon tank that currently holds one 5" Raphael Catfish, one 2"
Red Devil, one 5" Plecostomus, one 4" Jack Dempsey, one 3 3/4" Jaguar, and one
6" Oscar. In this tank I have a fake log which has many hidey-holes.
<You are going to need a much larger system... soon>
My Jack
Dempsey has been trapping the Jaguar in one of these holes. The Jaguar puts no
resistance to the Jack at all, and when (if) the Jack goes out of the hole the
Jaguar stays. Though I have seen the Jack 'peck' the Jaguar for no apparent
reason when in the hole. Is this normal?
<Yes>
Or could the Jack have a fancy for the
Jaguar?
<Likely not>
Why would the Jaguar put up with it if it is not normal?
<To avoid damage>
And is it at
all possible for them to mate? (I am pretty sure that the Jaguar is a female
and the Jack Dempsey a male)
<Possible to cross, but at their sizes... this is simple aggression. Bob Fenner>
Christine
Breeding Dempseys in a Mixed Tank
We have three Jack Dempsey's in a 55 gallon tank, two are breeding
together and the female has laid eggs three times now. My question is how to
keep the eggs alive? The night before the eggs should hatch, I look in the
tank the next morning and all the eggs are gone. Also in the tank are two
Angelfish and a sucker fish and they stay away from the eggs because they
are well guarded by the parents. So I do not think that they are being eaten
by the other fish. Thank you, Chris
<If that Sucker Fish is a Pleco, he's eating the eggs at night while the
parents are asleep. It's also possible that they are hatching and being
eaten by the adults. They will take there own young if they feel some other
fish will get them. Better for them to recycle the protein than loose it to
others. The way of nature. I strongly recommend that you get this pair their
own tank. They will (not may) kill the others in the tank at some point.
Your Angelfish are very lucky to be alive right now. Don>
Texas/Convict Cross
Interracial dating??? Hi, I have a 30 gal aquarium with one Texas (about
4"), two convicts (about 2"), and one Koi (about 5"). I recently noticed
one of them has spawned inside a tipped over pot I put in there as
'territory'. I watched for a while, and to my amazement realized it was the
Texas cichlid who laid the eggs and the convict (who is about half the
Texas' size) who was in there with her, fertilizing. They both take turns
guarding the nest and do so aggressively. Has anyone run into this
before???
< Yes, it happens all the time.>
Now I know they prooooobably are NOT going to successfully breed (LOL), but
what's the deal???
< Fish have a need to reproduce. When the proper mate is not available they
choose the next best thing.>
Do they often form weird, cross-species pair bonds like that... or do I just
have some seriously crazy fish?
< This normally does not happen when both sexes of the same species are
present.>
And with Texas Cichlids forming pair bonds, will I be able to intro a male
Texas (later, in a larger tank, of course) and will they realize and form
their own pair bond?
< If a male Texas is introduced it will probably pair up with the correct
female. The sooner the better.>
Will she dump her little felon man for a hearty Texan????
< Hopefully and probably.>
Will her ex con try to murder her by slipping rat poison in her drink????
lol, OK, just going a little Soap Opera here... ; ) But seriously.... Can
someone help me out with my weird fish? Kim
< Get the proper sexes to pair your fish up and hopefully nature will take
care of itself.-Chuck>
Will my Jack Dempsey always eat her fry?
My Jack Dempsey's just had their first spawning. She fanned, she hidden
them and then when you could see them wiggling around she ate them.
Will she always eat her fry?
Debbie Borolov
<Mmm, no, unlikely. Often the first batch or two of New World cichlids go this
route... eaten that is... with the parents "learning" as successive broods come
along. Bob Fenner>
Crossing
Cichlids
I just wanted to know if its possible for a red devil and a convict to breed?
< There are many cases of different Central American cichlids
hybridizing with one another.-Chuck>
Sexing Cichlids
I know this is an odd question and many expect you to know how, but how do you vent a fish? I hear that you have to hold the fish, but wouldn't that take
off the protective slime on their body? How do you know if the fish is a female or male if you do not have the opposite to compare 'results' with?
< Venting cichlids is an easy and reliable way of sexing many cichlids. I catch the fish in a net take them out of the water under strong like and simply look at the area on the belly between the pelvic fins and the anal fin. There you should see two openings. One opening is where the fish waste comes out. The other is a sex organ where the eggs or sperm is released during spawning. In females that opening is larger for eggs . In males it is
usually the same size as the waste opening. Fish with large eggs such as
Tropheus are very easy to sex this way. Fish with small eggs like Uaru are still difficult to tell.-Chuck>
Sexing Cichlids
I'm sorry, but I forgot to add my other question, I guess I forgot when typing the first question, but I was wondering how or if you can sex cichlids
early, like around 4 months old, because I cannot figure if my Jack Dempsey is Male or Female same with my Oscar.
< In general males are larger with longer unpaired fins. Female jacks tend to have a very blue lower jaw and not many blue spangles on the body. Oscars are very difficult until they get larger. Look underneath at their ventral area. The female will have two openings of the same size. Males should have one opening larger than the other.-Chuck>
Flowerhorns Mating
Greetings, Well, I've got a cichlid which I called Canon. After that, I've got a flower horn who is Dranzer. I put them in the same tank, a ten gallon tank with a divider in it. A couple of days later, I found some eggs on Canon's part. I didn't mind it because it might not hatch. But three days later, it
was filled with white fungus and was swept away. Another days later she laid eggs but the eggs were also filled with fungus. How can I keep fungus away?
< The fungus is usually the result of infertile eggs.>
Can a Flowerhorn and a cichlid mate?
< A Flowerhorn is a man made cichlid that is a hybrid between three different species. It is possible it could breed with another
Central American cichlid.>
How can my Flowerhorn get good colors and a protruding head?
< With good nutrition an good water quality you can get some pretty good results as long as the fish has the genes for those traits you desire.>
How can I breed fishes?
< Breeding cichlids is actually pretty easy. Make sure you have a pair and set them up with warm clean water. They will usually do the rest and even raise the fry.-Chuck>
Hope for your reply, Nikki
Egg Laying Parrot cichlids
How long from laying of the eggs until hatching?
< At 80 degrees F the eggs will hatch into wrigglers. In another three days the wrigglers will become free swimming and need to be feed baby brine shrimp and finely crushed flake food.-Chuck>
Re: Snails and Planted Tanks
Hi Mr. Fenner,
Sorry to bother you, but here is a short and last one on that topic. Forgot
to ask in the last mail.
Are a Pomacea bridgesi and a Malayan trumpet snail going to be a danger for
the eggs of my dwarf cichlids (ramirezi and Apistogramma cacatuoides)? And
for discus eggs (not there yet, but might happen eventually)?
Many thanks!
Dominique
<Likely not... these small and large cichlids are quite protective and aware of
such possible predators and should keep them at bay should they approach their
spawn. I have seen and kept them altogether. Bob Fenner>
MAKING A NEW APISTOGRAMMA
I would like to breed a few different color varieties of Apistogramma species together. Do you think I could cross-breed with them an
Apistogramma
trifasciata, they look almost identical! The reason I ask this is because I know
some people do not approve of cross-breeding different species.
<With close to 100+ species of Apistogramma already I am not sure what kind of fish you want to end up with. You could line breed
certain species and develop new colors. There are already double and triple red cacatuoides and
agassizii. These are being mass produced in Asia. I have never heard
of a hybrid between two different Apistogramma species but I suppose it is possible. Check with
Neil at Apistogramma.com.-Chuck>
PARROT CICHLID EGGS
In one of my tanks, I have a pair of Parrot Cichlids who have laid eggs and I cannot find anywhere as to how long before the
fry hatch.
< At 80 degrees F the eggs should hatch in three days. In another three days the fry should become free swimming and will need to be fed baby brine shrimp or crushed flake food.-Chuck>
CICHLID CROSS
I have a jaguar and a Jack Dempsey. They appear to be a breeding pair.
< It could happen.>
Has this happened before?
< I am sure it has.>
They are both about 4" and appeared to have laid eggs before which all disappeared before morning (gotten eaten?). A
few weeks later, there were hundreds of eggs again on the back of a rock. A few white but mostly clear. The female Jag appears to be very
aggressive towards the Jack, chasing him away. I have only seen them together peacefully on a few occasions but always away from the eggs.
Today is day 2. How do I know if the eggs have been fertilized and is there anything I need to do to facilitate that if they have not been?
< You can remove the eggs and hatch them artificially to see if they are any good. The white eggs are dead and the clear ones are still good. In a 5 gallon aquarium you can fill it with water from the main tank. Remove the stone or rock the eggs are laid on and place it in the 5 gallon tank. Keep the water at 80 degrees with an airstone close to the eggs to provide circulation. Add some
Methylene blue to the water too. The eggs should hatch in three days. the fry turn into a mass of
jelly as they absorb their egg sac. Three days later the fry are free swimming and they need to be fed baby brine shrimp and crushed flake food.>
I can't even come near the glass without the jag getting aggressive. They are in a 125 gallon tank with 2 algae eaters and a pike which is also
still small and almost never comes out. Any suggestions?
<The pair will continue to guard the fry and eggs like all cichlids do to some
extent. It may be better to remove the pike to save him.-Chuck>
BABY CONVICTS
Hi, I have a pair of Convicts they spawned and now I have about 100 little guys swimming around.
right now there in a 10 gallon, and yes I know that the tank is to small for them I just wanted them to grow more before I put
them in my 30 gallon. My question was when do I take the babies out? As far as I can tell they haven't started to pick them off yet, so are they fine
for now or do I need them out ASAP? Thanks - Halisha
<They can actually be taken out at any time. If they are free swimming then siphon them out with some
airline tubing and feed them baby brine shrimp. After about two weeks the parents get ready to spawn again and will eat the fry.-Chuck>
FIREMOUTH EGGS
Our Firemouth cichlid eggs have turned white and have been placed in a breeder net. How long before they hatch?
<Unfortunately white eggs are bad or unfertilized and will not hatch. Normally cichlid eggs hatch in about 3 days at 80 degrees. They then turn into wigglers for another three days. When they become free swimming they need to be fed baby brine shrimp and crushed flake food.-Chuck>
MOVING MATED CONVICTS
Hi guys. First off, I just wanted to say again that you guys are awesome.
I have a pair of convicts that just began breeding - about 2 week old fry right now, and it looks like they're guarding some more eggs.
The tank they are in was intended for an Oscar (he is in there with them now)... it was supposed to be a temporary home for the convicts and then they would be moved to their own tank - but they were too quick for me.
I have 2 questions...
1 - Can I move them safely to the other tank, without disrupting the fact that they have started breeding? (I'm pretty sure that since they are already breeding, they will continue to, but just want to be sure)
< Move the pair to one tank and then move the fry or eggs to another tank of their own if you want to save them.>
2 - The "nest" they have set up is inside the hollow leg of a somewhat large tank decoration. Should I be moving this decoration with them? Or will the decorations/hiding places in their new tank be ok? (I would like to keep the one they are using in the current tank, but will move it if necessary)
< Convicts are pretty adaptable and will soon find another suitable ornament or rock to spawn on.-Chuck>
How to breed Flowerhorns
Hello!
I have a pair of flower horns. When I put them in the same tank, it seems that they are mating coz each of them are flaring to each other. After a day or two, I saw the eggs on the hatchery. However, after laying eggs, I noticed that my pets are now fighting? Which should I leave in the hatchery, the male or the female? For how long should I place one of them on the tank where the eggs were laid? Please help on this matter. I’ve been experimenting 4x already and up to now, I can’t them to hatch their eggs. Hoping for your immediate response. Thanks!
Dale Dwayne
< Flower horns are a man made fish that have been developed to show certain traits that are favorable to the Asian culture. If you want to save the eggs then they can be taken away from the parents and hatched artificially. Fill a 5 gallon tank with the same tank water that the parents are
in. Remove the rock or stone with the eggs and place them in the 5 gallon tank with an airstone to provide
aeration and current. Put a few drops of Methylene blue in the water to inhibit any fungus growth. Keep the water at 80 degrees. In three days the eggs will hatch and they will turn into a little wiggly mass of fry. At the end of three days the fry will have absorbed their egg sack and they will become free swimming. At this time they can be fed newly hatched brine shrimp and finely crushed flake food. If after a few attempts all the eggs die (Turn white) you either have two females or an infertility problem.-Chuck>
Cichlid lovefest
Dear crew. I'm not new at fish (cichlids) but I need help with my fish. I'm
keeping many cichlids in my 250 gallon.
3.red devils,
6.adult convicts,
4.firemouths,
7.flowerhorns,
3.parrot cichlids
5.pacus
2.oscars
most of them are not very small but can handle the convicts and Flowerhorns but
soon my adult pink convict started to think she's going to breed with one of the
red devil who is the rulers of my tank! My pink convict started to flare at the
red devil and simply don't pay attention to her! Then she started digging at a
corner and the red devil seems to help! But they are not even guarding the spot
they are digging! Is this just for fun or are they really going to have babies??
-Sean
< Your female white convict looks like she is getting ready to breed with your
red devil. They both come from central America and have similar breeding
techniques. They have been crossed before with viable fry. Typically they are
not very attractive.-Chuck>
Mixing cichlid species repro.
so your saying that my two fishies are not going to breed!!!
< It is possible and probable that your convict would indeed cross breed with
your male red devil. Unfortunately this has been done before but the fry have
not been very attractive or commercially desirable.>
That stinks!! Should I get 2 or 3 male adult black because all my other convicts
are all females and I want to get black to see what a black and pink breed
together!
< If you get a black male convict and breed it with a pink or white female
convict you will get a percentage being like the mother and the rest will be
black like the father.>
so I can stop the flaring madness!! the female pink convict almost got hurt of
the flaring!! so I just took it out and I put it in a separate tank. no one else
bred in my tank!!
-Sean
< If you get a male then I think you will enjoy the courtship that central
American cichlids go through prior to spawning as well as the spawning
itself.-Chuck>
Single Cichlid with Eggs!
Dear Crew,
<Nicole>
Thanks for the advice. We covered the front of her tank over the weekend and by Monday morning she had (I assume) eaten the eggs.
<Happens>
She was still a little more aggressive than normal, but she's slowly calming down. Managed to get a good scrubbing and
vacuum in without getting bit, though it took some wrangling. She's big enough to do some damage. I'm glad to hear that she did this because she's healthy and not because there's something wrong. Thanks again for the help.
-Nicole
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Gold Severums have laid eggs!!!
After removing the 7 inch Bala shark and spotted African Cichlid and turning
up the heat to 82-84 degrees on the 29 ga tank, the female finally deposited
hundreds of eggs on the wall of the clay pot. Yesterday, the eggs were
clear/opaque and today they are all white. My assumption is that the male
has fertilized almost all of the eggs. I am observing that the male is
maintaining guard over the entrance of the clay pot and keeps the female
away every time she come near the eggs. Is this normal behavior or should I
separate the fish or removed all together? Do I have to do frequent water
changes? Are the eggs safe from the parents? How long until the eggs hatch
into fry? Are the fry safe? Please make any recommendations, I appreciate
your advice.
< The eggs should hatch in three days. The whitish color is an indication that
the eggs may have all died. If they hatch the fry should be free swimming in
about three days. At that time they should be fed baby brine shrimp and finely
crushed flake food. They should be removed from the parents into their own tank
in about a week. The parents will spawn again within a couple of weeks.-Chuck>
JohnB
Gold Severums have laid eggs!!! Bob's go
After removing the 7 inch Bala shark and spotted African Cichlid and turning
up the heat to 82-84 degrees on the 29 ga tank, the female finally deposited
hundreds of eggs on the wall of the clay pot.
<Neat!>
Yesterday, the eggs were
clear/opaque and today they are all white.
<Ohhh... fungused>
My assumption is that the male
has fertilized almost all of the eggs.
<Mmm, maybe... not... could be you have two females... or even that the male is
sterile or did not participate>
I am observing that the male is
maintaining guard over the entrance of the clay pot and keeps the female
away every time she come near the eggs. Is this normal behavior or should I
separate the fish or removed all together?
<Not too abnormal... but... trouble for you and them being in this small a
container... need at least a forty, better a sixty gallon tank or larger... too
stressful, problems if one beats the other...>
Do I have to do frequent water
changes? Are the eggs safe from the parents? How long until the eggs hatch
into fry?
<They won't... they're not viable...>
Are the fry safe? Please make any recommendations, I appreciate
your advice.
JohnB
<John... you need more information than can be gleaned from simply asking
here... do read through what little we have on all cichlids posted here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlivestkindex.htm
and consider getting a good book or two on cichlid husbandry... you can search
these on Amazon, Barnes and Noble... Bob Fenner>
Convicts breeding & whatch you gonna do?
I have a 55 gallon tank. There is a pleco, two clown knives,
<What? This fish gets about the length of this tank... four feet... in the wild
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=2078&genusname=Chitala&speciesname=chitala>
2 tiger barbs, 4
giant danios, and 3 zebra danios along with two female convicts, and a pair
of convicts.
<What a mix!>
The pair's eggs hatched out on Christmas day. They have been doing
really great, there were 130 eggs or so, and there ended up being about 30
fry born. So after they have guarded these babies well, and they have not been
too rough on the other fish because they stay on one side of the tank and my
knives on the other.
<Eventually the Knives will eat all these other fishes>
They don't even pay attention to the other fish at all
because they are not really too much of a threat to them I guess.
Anyway, to make a long story short here, there have been quite a few fry
that have disappeared. I know it is bound to happen and am not to worried
about that. However, the daddy fish has decided to kick out the mommy fish. He
won't let the mommy near the babies anymore at all.
<Happens>
And instead of them being
black and white. Especially the male, he is dark black and dark grey striped.
<Good description>
He
doesn't like the other two females either. Why in the world is he doing this?
<Uhh, because he can? Likely a behavior that has survival value eh? Maybe he
would mate with another female next time/s... a mix of genes, mates would
benefit the species through space and time>
Is it because the babies are not all there?
<Maybe... it is possible he "blames" the female>
And should I remove him from the
tank for a few days so that mommy can take over watching over the fry again or
just leave them the way they are? thank you for your input I really do
appreciate it.
<Depends on what you want to do... become a breeder/supplier of convict
cichlids? In this size system (w/o the Knives... you should trade them in,
otherwise move them to other quarters), your convicts should continue to spawn,
the young be mostly consumed... You can separate the eggs, raise elsewhere, take
the fishes out... Bob Fenner>
Firemouths, Convicts and Cichlasoma nicaraguense
I have a pair of nicaraguense that seemed to have paired off... male and
female, just in the last 2 weeks or so. In addition, in a
"territory" of the tank real close to them, I have a Convict and a
Firemouth that seem real close to each other... fight battles together, always
hang together etc. and have been like that for a month or two. Well,
today I noticed TONS of babies. The Firemouth and Convict are caring
for them. Did they cross breed, or are they taking care of the
nicaraguense babies?
< The probably crossed.>
Is that even possible that the Nicaraguense would lay eggs and allow others to
care for them?
< No, other fish would eat the baby nicaraguense.>
Is it ok to have Firemouth and Convict crossbreeding if that is what is going
on?
< Not really. They turn into mutts and usually are not very attractive
aquarium fish.>
I have decided to let nature take it's course in the tank, and either the babies
will survive, or they wont. There are plenty of other fish in the
tank that would more than love to have a fry snack, but so far the Firemouth and
Convict will not let anyone close. Any idea what's going on in there?
<Cichlids in general will guard their eggs and fry for a couple of
weeks until they get ready to spawn again. This is what makes cichlids great
aquarium fish.-Chuck>
Not breeding Convict cichlids
Hello, I have 3 convicts, 1 baby jack Dempsey, and 1 blood parrot in my
tank
I have 6 caves a clay flowerpot and a piece of drift wood. my question is
why wont my convicts lay eggs, I know that 2 out of the 3 convicts are
females I'm not sure about the other one , (I'm pretty sure she's a female
too). My
other question is, does there have to be a male convict in the tank for the
female to lay eggs. please help, I want to breed my fish very badly and
I am
trying very hard, thank you.
< Convicts are usually very easy to sex. The males are larger and have longer
fins. The females usually have yellow or orange on the belly region. Try feeding
some live food for a week and raise the water temp to 80 degrees F. Do a large
water change and service the filter too. You see some results in a week or
so.-Chuck>
from your fellow fish enthusiast,
Jeeves S.
Breeding convict cichlids continued
thank you, for your help, I determined that I indeed have 3 females, I
have
one additional question, does there need to be a male in the tank for the females to lay eggs . and when I got to the pet store the convicts they have
are too small and under developed for me to sex. how can I find a male when
the fish are so under developed
< Females indeed can lay unfertilized eggs without a male being present. You can
only go by external sexual dimorphism. Generally the largest fish in the group
will be a male.-Chuck>
Jeeves S.
Convict fry disappearing
Dear WWM crew,
I have a 65 gallon freshwater tank with a pair of Texas cichlids,
Firemouths and a breeding pair of convicts. The convicts laid eggs that
hatched about two weeks ago. At first, there seemed to be nearly
50-75 fry free-swimming. and now, two weeks later there seems to be less
than twenty. I don't think that the other fish are eating them because
the parents protect them like nobody's business. Could the parents be
eating them and what should I do about the remainder of fry?
< After 2 weeks the parents are probably getting ready to spawn again. The
female is probably picking off a few a day as she regains her strength to
prepare to spawn again. I would siphon out the remaining fry soon as they will
be eaten by the parents shortly.-Chuck> Sincerely,
Fish Fry Guy.
Baby Flowerhorn/red rose fish
Hello,
My Flowerhorn and red rose bred for the 2nd time and the eggs hatched 1 Dec.
I removed the parents cause the 1st time they ate the babies the same day a few
hours later.
What should I feed them?
< They will become free swimming in a few days depending on the water temp. At
that time they can be fed baby brine shrimp and finely crushed flake food.>
And the best way in a 55 gal tank.
< When the fry become free swimming they will gather into a little school. The
fry food can be dropped over them. they will feed as the food slowly drops down
around them.-Chuck> Today I gave
them a little red Tubifex worms.
Thanks,
Leo
Convict Breeding
Hey,
First off, I want to say that you guys are the best! Thanks for taking the
time to share your expertise with the rest of us!
I have a pair of Black Convicts who seem to want to mate, but I haven't seen
any results. The male is about 2-2.5" and the female is about 1.5". I have
read about their behaviors when they are pairing off and preparing to mate -
and they have done everything I have read, but nothing seems to be
happening.
During the pairing off, they sort of took turns chasing each other around -
testing each other's strength, I guess.
After that, they seemed to claim their territory in the tank (but they are
alone in the tank). They then dug out several spots in the gravel, assumably
to use for the fry's hiding spots. Then the female tended to stay in her
hiding spot - which unfortunately I can't see into - the majority of the
time while the male patrolled just outside (and got extremely territorial
when I came near the tank). A few days later, they both began swimming
around as normal again with no offspring.
After about a week, it seems as though they are doing this same thing again.
Do you think they are trying, but are just being unsuccessful their first
few times (which I know is common). Or does their behavior indicate
something else?
< They probably spawned but ate the eggs.>
Is there anything I can do to help them?
< Clean the filter and do a 30% water change. Get the water temp up to 80
degrees F. Feed some live food like live brine shrimp, black worms , small earth
worms and high quality pellets. The following week do a 50% water change and
raise the water temp to 82 degrees F.>
I have read that things such as
slowly increasing the temp (up to 80 or so), feeding bloodworms, etc. can
influence them and I have tried these things. Any other suggestions?
< Convicts are fairly easy to spawn. You have a new young pair that will better
with practice. They will try again very soon.-Chuck>
Thanks,
Brian
I need to know how to breed red x red cichlids?
If you don't know please give me a link.
< Depends on what red cichlids you want to breed. Red devils are substrate
spawning cichlids from Central America. They get about 10" + with the male being
larger and having longer fins that the female. It is best to pick out six young
fish and letting them pair up on their own as they grow. The pair will form a
pair bond and then clean off an area and lay adhesive eggs on the surface. At 80
F the eggs will hatch and then three days later the fry will become free
swimming and need to be fed baby brine shrimp and crushed flake food. If you are
trying to breed Red Zebras from Lake Malawi then that will be entirely
different. Red Zebras are herbivores that require lots of algae in their diet.
The male will establish a territory and then try to attract a gravid female to
the site to breed. The female will lay non-adhesive eggs in the pit and then
pick them up in her mouth. The male will then fertilize them and the female will
be chased away and he will try to attract a new female to the site. This
mouthbrooding technique is very common in cichlids from this area. After a
couple of weeks the female will release the fry in a safe area of the tank. She
could be removed to another tank to release the fry too.-Chuck>
Cichlid fry behavior
Thanks in advance for giving me your opinion.
My name is Diane Scott. I am writing about my 20 gallon freshwater tank in
which I have 5 cichlids (all about 1-1/2 inches in length and babies of my very
healthy guys in a 55 gallon tank elsewhere). I'm thinking something is very
strange in this tank because for the 6 months or so that I've had it set up,
these fish (1) hide behind rocks all the time and look freaked out; (2) rather
than swim, they lunge here and there to grab food but otherwise stay hidden; and
(3) the area between their eyes and to the tops of their heads is turning
brown! I have had fish for a few years and have never seen anything so
unusual.
These guys seem absolutely miserable and I have no idea why. I have an
undergravel filter and two powerheads I bought on EBay and a heater than I used
previously without a problem. Maybe there's a voltage leak in the tank? Heck I
don't know. Please tell me what you think and how to remedy the problem.
You're the best...thanks!
< All cichlids are not alike. Fry usually hide to survive from predators. They
can develop stress coloration and markings to blend in to the rocks. I would
recommend some dither fish to give the tank some activity and make the timid fry
more comfortable to their surroundings. Try adding a few barbs or rainbow fish
to the tank and see if your cichlids notice the new fish. In a few days I am
confidant that the cichlids will be out and about.-Chuck>
Flowerhorn
Hello,
I have a male Flowerhorn and female Rose flower that mated and laid eggs.
The Rose is swimming across the eggs in a rubbing motion while the Flowerhorn approaches periodically. Which eggs are fertile the white or clear and how long
will it take for the eggs to hatch?
< The clear eggs are fertile and the white ons are dead and need to be removed
by the female before they fungus up and destroy the rest of the eggs. They
should hatch in three days at 80 degrees. Three days later the fry will become
free swimming after absorbing their egg sac. At this time they need to be fed
baby brine shrimp and crushed flake food.-Chuck.>
Thanks,
Leo
Cichlid question
Hello,
I have a tank with six cichlids, a Dempsey, African blue and two
black convicts (male & female- 3 years old) adults and 2 black convicts
(2 months old). The older female convict had babies two weeks ago and
was a very dark black. In the last two days he color returned back to a
lighter gray like she was before the babies and everything seemed fine.
I came home tonight to find her gasping with both sides of her body
white, missing scales and eyes glazed over. I have been checking
various websites and the only thing I have found is may be ich or some
type of fungus but I'm really not sure its ich since she didn't have any
spots last night and even today there were no spots on her tails or
fins. I'm concerned for the other fish in the tank, any idea of what
this is and what I need to so to not lose any of the other fish? Any
assistance is appreciated.
< Sounds like the male convict decided to spawn again but she was not ready and
he beat her up. I recommend separating her from the others until she recovers.
Watch for fungus infections and keep the water clean. Try treating the water
with a water conditioner that adds a protective slime on the body.-Chuck>
Thanks
Anita
Flowerhorn pair behavior
Respected sir/ madam,
I recently brought a pair of flower horns from a local
dealer (a male and female), male slightly bigger than
the female (the male is about 8-10 cm long, the female
5-6cm long). Now I see the male attacking the female
and the female has some scars on her body. should I
now remove the female or is this a temporary action by
the male.
Hope to get a reply soon.
< Remove her to another tank or he will kill her. Many times pair bonds are
broken when fish are moved and need to be reestablished. Try dividing the tank
and keep each one on its own side. When the female is ready to spawn she will
begin to start to flare back at the male. You can try and put them together for
a short time and see how it goes. Be aware that he can decide to kill her in
just a few hours so only put them together when you are home watching them.
Eventually when they start to breed again you can start leaving the female with
the male, but there is no guarantee when large cichlids begin to breed.-Chuck>
Thanking you ,
Rohan
Breeding Puffer with convicts? 8/18/04
Hi
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
I was wondering if you could breed a Convict Cichlid with a Puffer fish?
<About as easily as breeding a cat & a dog. Just won't work.>
Also I was wondering if you could breed green Severums with Convict cichlids.
<There has been success interbreeding different species of cichlids together,
but I highly doubt you'd have much success with it.>
Please email me back with the answer Thank you.
<Instead of concerning yourself with breeding, why not try & study up as much as
you can about the fish you have & do the best you can to keep them alive,
healthy & long-lived? ~PP>
Cross-breeding or line-breeding?
Hello All,
Sandy here. I have a question and not sure how to research for the
answers. You guys have helped me before and once again, I am stuck seeking for
answers. I currently have a 75 gallon cichlid tank with fake
plants....everything is fake. Inhabitants are: 1 electric yellow, 1 snow white
socolofi, 1 kenyi (male) he's such a bully, 1 lab textilis (he's worse than
kenyi) 4 blood parrots, 2 Synodontis eupterus, 1 common pleco, 1 Neolamprologus
pulcher and 1 Neolamprologus brichardi.
Well I didn't know that the neo's are from a different lake when I originally
purchased them. I was so drawn in by their fins and couldn't' resist buying
them....So when I got home, I did some research and discovered that they were
not the same species....but are from the same family. Well here's my
problem.....they had babies!!!! Obviously I was doing something right for them
to have babies, but then again I really didn't want to breed any fish. As I
discovered them, I also noticed that my parrots also laid eggs but there's no
need to worry about the parrots as they'll never be able to have fry. =o) I
know cross-breeding is when you have 2 completely different species (i.e.: blood
parrots) and line-breeding is within the same family (kind of what they do with
bettas.) Since this case is with the same family, different race, would it
still be considered cross-breeding?
< The pucher-brichardi mixture is definitely a cross. Check and make sure that
you do indeed have two different species. The pulchers have a couple of dark
half moon markings behind the eye while the brichardi have one diagonal line
coming out towards the tail from behind the eye.>
I'm still confused. With all the research that I've done, the websites don't
really provide good examples for me to better understand. I'm hoping you guys
would know since you already know so much.
The male would be the pulcher and the female is the brichardi, they look very
identical with the exception of the gills. I originally thought the brichardi
was a male cuz it had longer fins than any other fish, but then he started
laying eggs, so he is really a she. After the 3rd batch of eggs, I decided to
remove the female to a 10 gallon tank which I ended up buying to care for the
fry which are now about 3-4 months old. The 3 batches of eggs hatched within
2-3 weeks. I have about 100 babies or so, give or take a few dozen...and then I
discovered that when they are adult size, they can lay up to 200 eggs!!! What
did I get myself into? They've started to develop the ice blue and white on
their fins which is really beautiful to look at. Some of them have blue fins
like the pulcher and some of them have the white fins like the brichardi. I
don't want to keep them anymore and I am planning to take the parents back to
the LFS. As for the babies, I'm not sure what to do with them. I found some
places that will take them in but haven't really decided to until I find out
whether or not this would be considered cross-breeding. Is it cross-breeding or
line-breeding or neither?
< Your crosses would make an interesting photo since you are the first person I
have heard from that has crossed these two fish.>
I don't' think it would be line-breeding would it?
<NO> Please help! I'm debating whether or not I want a Malawi tank or a
Tanganyika tank.....If I decide to keep a Malawi tank, I'm taking all the others
back except for the catfish and parrots and if I keep a Tanganyika tank, I'm
taking all the Malawians back. *sigh* I apologize if this is a bit long but I
wanted to make sure I give you guys enough information. =o)
< As long as the fish you take to the store are correctly marked as crosses then
you could either sell them there or feed them as culls to a larger fish. It is
strange that the two species never really overlap their territories.-Chuck>
Thanks,
A confused Sandy...
Cross-breeding Fishes... it happens 8/2/04
Could you tell me if Texas Cichlid will spawn with a another kind of Cichlid.
like a black Convict? I have
a male Texas Cichlid and a Black Female Convict in a 29 gal Tank.
< A hybrid between these two fish has been done before and is not that
uncommon when a suitable mate of the same species is not available.-Chuck>
Oscar and BP cross
Hi guys - just a quickie - I've looked everywhere and can't find this info
- so it's over to you.
55 gal tank - one 8 inch tiger Oscar and one 8inch peach coloured Blood
Parrot.
And one nest with lots of eggs (the BP is the female)
Is this going to work - and has it been done before ?
(All of the above was quite accidental, and I have no intention of passing
any fry on).
< Hybridizing cichlids is actually quite easy and happens all the time. Since
you parrot cichlid is already a hybrid between three different cichlids it
doesn't surprise me that she would spawn with an Oscar. I am sure it has been
done before. I am not sure what you mean when you ask is this going to work? Do
you mean are the fry going to be viable? So far no one has published any such
spawn so It is hard to say?-Chuck>
Thanks
Colin Ahern
Blood Parrot (cichlid)
Hello,
I have two parrot fish yellow and red. they are about 2.5 in. they are with
electric blue cichlid and a lemon yellow cichlid, and 3 clown loaches. my
question is my yellow parrot fish was a pretty yellow but is getting black on
his
fins and under his head. is this something I should be concerned about? thank
you, Darci
< Parrot fish are a hybrid between a few different species of cichlids. Color
changes are not unheard of. If the fish look and act OK then I think the color
change is most likely from the fishes genetics rather than environmental
conditions or diseases.-Chuck>
Oscar + Dempsey
My father recently bought me an Oscar which I already had 1 Dempsey, 1 pacu and
1 gourami in my tank for the past 6 months. As soon as I put the Oscar in, the
Dempsey laid eggs. Is crossbreeding possible or will they live if I follow the
directions that I have already read about separating the fry and adding the blue
stuff? I am very new at this.... I love fish but never had to deal with this.
please help. They were laid yesterday and today is Monday. How long do I have?
< Your Jack Dempsey is from Mexico and the Oscar is from South America. They
never see each other in the wild so natural crosses are not possible. In the
aquarium all bets are off. If the eggs are viable then they will hatch in three
days or so at 80 degrees. The fry will need to be fed baby brine shrimp and
crushed flake food three days after hatching. If they are not any good then they
will turn white and fungus or the female will eat them.-Chuck>
thanks, Natalie
Parrot Cichlid Repro.
Hi
I have been keeping fishes all my life. Initially I used to keep livebearers
such as Mollies and guppies. It was no problem at all to have them to breed. In
fact I had so many fry that I used to gift them to my friends.
Now I have changed the scene. I have given away all my live bearers and have 4
parrot cichlids.
I want to know which is a male and which is a female. Three of them are bright
pink coloured and one of them is yellow. Two of them have white spots on their
bodies near the tail. The third one too has them but in a very less quantity
compared to the other two. The yellow one does not have any such spots. One of
the pink one shows some kind of stripes at times. I don't know if it is my
illusion. The same fish even has some black spots near the tail. That's all I
know about them.
I am very eager to breed them. Could you please advise how?
Thank you very much.
< Parrot cichlids are an artificial fish that are man made and do not occur in
nature. They are a hybrid of at least three different species. Typically when
you want to sex new world cichlids, the males are larger and have longer fins.
The colors of parrot cichlids probably aren't very good indicators of sexual
determination. In normal cichlids you can take them in your hand and turn them
upside down and look at the ventral areas to determine the sex of many, but not
all cichlids.-Chuck>
Lots of Questions - Fresh and Salt water
right now i have a lot of problems with my fish. one is My valentine puffer is sick but their is no dots or marks on him and it looks like he is in
critical condition. can you help
< Need more info like the water conditions and how long he has been sick.>
Another Question
I have 2 aquariums 1 is fresh 1 is salt water. I feed my cichlids cichlid floating pellets. I also found out that my trigger fish like them to. is it ok to
feed them the pellets.
< Even though your puffer likes the cichlids pellets it is best to get him back on track with regular food made for saltwater fish for long term health.>
This one is a lot simpler how do you determine the gender of a jewel cichlid and a
Texas cichlid.
< Male cichlid generally have longer more pointed fins and are larger than the females too.-Chuck>
Ménage' a Trois "Dempsey Style"
We have a 125 gallon tank with 4 Oscars, 3 Jacks, and 1 African (and three pleco). We believe that 2 of the Jacks are female; one just had fry, we didn't see the eggs, but we did see the parents preparing in a corner. We only were able to save about 50 or so. We have sectioned off the tank for now, so as to not loose anymore of the fry. We left the parents with the fry, but the problem is that the "OTHER WOMAN" also seems to have a rather large belly, and we think that she is also pregnant. For now, we have her sectioned off with the others...Should we move her over with the other two Jacks so she can safely lay her eggs, or will she feed on the fry that have already been hatched?
<Jack Dempsey's will harem spawn. I suspect if your fry are free swimming then I would remove them . If the odd female does not eat them then the parents will in a few days. It is possible that the male will breed with the other female too.>
Is it common for males to mate with more than one female at a time? < Sure.> I appreciate any information you can pass along!
< If you really want to save the fry I would recommend that you remove the eggs to a
separate tank with an airstone and they will hatch in three days at 80 degrees, In another three days the fry will have absorbed their egg sac and become free swimming. At his point they need to be fed. Baby brine will work nicely and then crushed flake food. The fry grow quickly and one spawn can be in thousands. Then you have to figure out what
to do with a thousand jack Dempseys._ Chuck>
Lisa
Parrot Cichlid Reproduction
Hi, I am a novice with a 14 gallon freshwater tank. I have 3 small
parrots, about 6 or 7 moths old which grew from about 3/8 inches to about 1,
21/2 and 3
inches. They are a translucent pinkish color, but the two smaller
ones have
orange bands that appear and disappear depending on the day. The
largest one
never changes. It seems that the two larger paired
off. Recently I thought
they were fighting a lot, but today I came home from work and went to feed them
and found I have hundreds of small swimming fish that look like
tadpoles. They
seem to gravitate around a coral reef and the gravel bottom and the two
larger fish are hovering around them constantly. Will the older fish
eat them?
< Your pair of parrot fish have indeed spawned. Although they are a genetic
hybrids they are fertile. They will take care of the fry for a couple of weeks
and if they are not removed then they will be eaten by the parents.>
or
protect them?
< They do a good job protecting the eggs and the fry from other fish just
like most substrate spawning cichlids for a while. It depends on how hungry the
parents get.>
What do I feed them?
<The fry can be feed baby brine shrimp , Microworms crushed, flake food when
they become free swimming.> Apparently, I have a male and a female
and they bred. Will they live and if so, what do I do with all of
them.
< Well you can try and sell them to your local fish store. If nothing else
maybe trade them in for fish food.>
My
third, smaller parrot is staying away. In fact it does not look well
and is
keeping to a corner at the top of my tank. Where do I go for help?
< The other odd ball parrot fish will constantly be harassed by the parents.
They look at him as a threat to eat their fry. Maybe you can trade him in or put
him in another tank.-Chuck> Thanks, Lynne
Get the fry to eat dry?
Hello, wondering if someone could tell me how I can get my angel fish fry to
start eating dry food. They are about 3.5 weeks old and all they've ever eaten
is newly hatched brine shrimp. I've put in crushed flake and pellet but they
will not take. Even tried them on frozen daphnia- no go. Should I quit the
shrimp and they would have to eat the dry because of hunger?
<Try smaller feedings of brine shrimp once a day. Offer them crushed flake
food first thing in the morning. Make sure it is a high quality flake food. And
then try the baby brine late in the day. See if the adults eat the flake food.
Try OSI brine shrimp flake to start and then a general flake with brine shrimp
flakes in it later on. -Chuck>
Convicted to the Gravel
I have two sets of 2-3 week old baby convicts in my tank along with a few other fish. I noticed that some of the babies were mixed in with the gravel on the bottom of the tank... I have not tried to move anything in fear of causing more damage than helping the little one's. Will they be able to get out of the gravel? Is there something that I could do to help? They have never done this before..
< At this time the fry should be mobile enough to get around just fine. At feeding time they should be up and about out of the gravel. The parents will be able to help them if needed. If your gravel is so coarse that the fry have all fallen to the bottom, then I would recommend removing the gravel or at least
changing to a finer sand so this does not happen in the future. They should spawn again in
a couple of weeks. -Chuck>
Jewel Cichlids spawning!
hello again :) I had 5 jewels in a 10 gallon tank and recently moved them to a 40 hex tank. I'm having issues trying to determine what to do when they lay eggs, its bewildering. when they were in the 10 gallon, 2 of them paired off and moved their "house" over a flat rock and made camp in there for about a week. I was sitting watching them when I noticed the green rock under their house was now a light beige. when I looked closer I noticed lots and lots and lots of tiny round balls, eggs! and the mom fish was still laying them so I put off doing a water change that week, not knowing if it would hurt them or not. I separated the parents and the eggs from the other 3 fish with a screen and just kept watch. when I got home from work the next day though, like 75% of the eggs were missing! I thought the parents were eating them so I put the parents on the other side of the screen, too. dang, you should have seen them try to fight their way through the screen to get to the eggs. anyway, the day after that the eggs that were left on the rock turned white and fuzzy. well I figured they were dead eggs and it was time for a water change so I took the screen out. all the fish did the most disgusting thing and feasted on the fuzzy eggs. so that was trial number one, on to trial number two... now like everyone I've talked to said that the fish will take a month to try again..
mine did the very next week. I relocated them all to a brand new 40 hex with all the little luxuries and the same parents as last time did their thing and dug a pit at the back of the tank near a flat rock and moved their house on top of the pit and the same mom fish laid the eggs. I didn't separate them this time and again the next day almost all the eggs were gone and the mom fish was putting them in her mouth. I've been reading up and some say the mom fish will incubate the eggs in her mouth and some say they relocate them to the pit.
I cant see anything in the pit and the parents are no longer guarding the site. I've tried peering into her mouth but its just impossible to tell, but this is day 4. do mom fish stop eating when they have eggs in their mouths?
cause mine sure didn't, she's a pig. so I guess what I'm asking is what do I need to do better to reduce the loss of eggs and possibly fry if they do their thing
again? thanks bunches! ~Erin
< Young jewelfish usually eat their eggs the first few times. Feed the pair very well with worms or shrimp so they won't get hungry. When they spawn try and leave the eggs with the parents and try not to disturb them too much. They will fan the eggs and provide oxygen for them. As you found out when you removed the parents that the eggs soon died. If you really want to save the eggs then when they lay the eggs |