Unfertilized Severum eggs
3/30/08
Hi,
Hope this isn't too stupid a question, but at least it and the answer should be
short. I have a single female gold Severum who just laid her first eggs. As
there's no male yet (I'm looking for one), the eggs will go unfertilized. Should
I just leave them in the tank, or should I remove them?
Thanks,
Greg
<Hi Greg. I'd be surprised if she (or the other fish in the tank) don't eat them
before too long. Plecs and other nocturnal fish in particular will simply view
these are a midnight snack. But it's perhaps best to remove them if you're
worried about water quality. Cheers, Neale.>
Mated turquoise Severum pair
no longer mated? 10/14/07
Hello,
<Ave,>
First, let me describe our tank... 110 gallons, heavily decorated, Currently we
have 6 green Severums, 1 keyhole, 2 electric yellows, 1 German ram, and a very
small Pleco.
<Certainly an eccentric collection of fish!>
My husband and I purchased a mated pair of turquoise Severums about 3 months
ago. They spent all their time together, very obviously a mated pair.
<Hmm... famous last words. Cichlids are notorious for being happily married in
one tank, but fierce enemies when moved to another.>
We watched them search out the tank, we were excited thinking they might spawn
soon but nothing happened. At the time we added the mated pair, our tank had 2
orange African cichlids and it seemed the addition of the mated pair made these
orange cichlids become very aggressive toward all the fish in the tank. We were
surprised to see this aggression because the mated pair are much bigger than
everyone else in the tank.
<Cichlids don't see things the way you do. For them, anything else in THEIR
patch of the world is a potential threat, either as an egg-eater, or a rival
mate, or simply as a competitor for food and space. This is why cichlids are so
successful at colonising other places when accidentally introduced by man: they
attack first, ask questions later. In the bloody world of Nature, this strategy
works exceedingly well.>
We removed the orange cichlids about a couple of weeks ago but it seems our
mated Severums are no longer mated. The male chases the female away when she
comes around and now we often see them far apart from each other.
<Oh dear.>
She actually seems sad (if that is possible).
<Unlikely she's "sad", but she may be stressed if picked upon.>
Do mated pairs separate?
<Yes. In the wild, probably quite frequently.>
Can they or will they reconnect?
<Yes. Since you have six Severums in the one tank, new pairs should form
naturally. Just give them time. Conditioning the females when make them more
receptive to the male's advances. So optimise their diet: lots of fresh greens
plus live/frozen foods such as bloodworms.>
Thanks
Janice
<Good luck, Neale>
Severum cross with a gold
8/16/07
Hi,
I'd like to know what would be the result of breeding a turquoise Severum with a
gold Severum? What would be the offspring's coloration? I understand that gold's
are a variant of the green Severum which is merely lacking the melanin. What
would this cross breed be called?
Thanks,
AT
<Usually when extreme varieties are crossed, you end up with something closer to
the wild type. Thanks to removing the results of inbreeding, crosses between
varieties are usually hardier and more fertile, and behaviour will be more
consistently similar to the wild fish. On the other hand, stores tend not to
want fish they can't define as a particular kind of something, though this isn't
always a big deal. By analogy with angelfish (which are closely related to
Severums) my guess would be the results of this cross would be a mishmash of
different types depending on what versions of the colouration genes each baby
Severum ended up with. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Severum cross with a gold
– 08/17/07
Thank You so much Neale for your timely response. I hope to be able to sell
the offspring once they have them and God willing the will be sold.
Sincerely,
AT
<You're welcome. Good luck with your breeding project. Cheers, Neale>
Severums Breeding - 01/23/2007
Hello,
<Hi, Jeannine - first of, THANK YOU for fixing your capitalization and
re-sending your message - I can't tell you how much we appreciate this. You're
awesome.>
I have a pair of gold Severums that have bred 3 times. The first time in my
community tank. The babies were there for a few days and then were gone. The
parents were protecting the babies so I thought the other fish had ate them.
<Yeah, that's very likely. However, the parents also can end up "giving up" if
the threat to their young is too great in a community tank; if they do "give
up", well, sometimes even the parents will eat the young. Also, new parent
cichlids might take a few to several tries before they finally understand that
baby cichlids are for raising, not eating.>
So I moved them to their own tank so they would have no worries.
<Great!>
They had more babies and were doing nicely for a few days. Then they were gone.
The parents must have eaten them.
<Yeah, the stress of moving may have spurred this, or again, they're probably
pretty new to the whole baby thing.>
The 3rd set, I let the babies in there for a few days. Then I put them in a
breeding net to separate them.
<Better to either completely remove them to another tank to raise them or to
allow the parents to raise them uninhibited.>
I fed them some liquid small fry food. The parents did not like being separated
from the babies. Two hours later they were all gone. I can see some floating
dead, but I don't see all of them. I don't know if the parents somehow sucked
them through the net or what.
<This can and does happen, even with very fine netting - it's just not safe for
the young to keep them in a breeder net in a tank with strong adult fish.>
How can I keep them alive? Do I need to move the parents back to the community
tank after they have some more?
<That is an option.>
If so when?
<As soon as you see aggression toward the young, and are quite certain they're
going to be eaten.... Otherwise, let mom and dad try their hand at parenting in
peace a few times - they'll get it right with time, more than likely. Don't
disturb the tank too much or provide a threat to the "kids", and probably the
parents will learn how to do things the right way. Cichlids are amazing;
they're one of the few groups of fish that actually do protect and raise their
young. Occasionally, there will be a pair that just doesn't "get it", and if
yours never "gets it", then separating them from their young is the thing to
do. But let 'em try taking care of their young first; it means less work for
you, and possibly healthier young. Even better, you'll get to observe some of
the most interesting fish behaviors there are - parents providing for,
protecting, and raising their young.>
Thank You, -Jeannine
<All the best to you, -Sabrina>
Hello, How many breeding pair of gold Severums can you have in a 55
gal tank?
< I would stick to two if you plan on keeping the fry around. But just one pair
will supply you and all your friends with all the gold Severums you will ever
need.>
I have 12 Severums in this tank and 3 sets are breeding. Will they breed and
raise fry as families?
< No. If they breed at the same time the fry will get mixed up and they will not
be able to tell their fry from their neighbor's. the breeding pairs will
constantly be fighting with one another. I would recommend that you just keep a
pair and watch them raise their family like cichlids do.>
I can move the unpaired fish if necessary. Thank you
<You could potentially end up with 6 breeding pairs of fish. Each pair can
produce a thousand eggs every two weeks depending on the size. Lots of gold
Severums to get rid of.-Chuck>
Severum Breeding With Siblings 1/14/07
Hello, I wrote you in December of 05 about TOO much of a good Thing,
This was in reference that I had a mated pair of gold Severums that had 2 set
of babies 2 week apart, and thus I had almost 400 babies to raise. You
suggested I contact local fish stores. After 1 year I am down to about 40
babies left. I had a very upsetting day last May as one of my parent fish was
found dead out of the tank as I woke one morning. All this time I thought it
was the Daddy fish as it was the larger and the most colorful of the pair. Now
I am wondering if maybe I have mistaken the identity. From August 11 of
05 (first babies) until now, there have no eggs in the tank at
all. The parent fish has shared a tank with 10 of the younger fish for 8
months. Part of this time I had a divider in the tank as the younger fish seemed
to annoy the parent. The past 2 months the parent fish has lived freely
with the 10 maturing fish.
2 of the younger fish began to mate and move to a place in the tank inside a
flower pot. Suddenly eggs were in the tank again. What a joy! NOW I am very
confused. The original parent fish suddenly began parenting the eggs. I
thought may the mothering instinct was just overcoming the fish and it was
filling the parenting role. These eggs were not fertilized and so 2 weeks
later a second batch appeared. Same thing happened. At some point some of
the smaller fish at the eggs about day 5. Yesterday 3rd set of eggs. YEAH. I
am now prepared to divide the tank to prevent the other fish from eating the
eggs. I'm not SOOO not sure of the largest original parent fishes role. I put
3 fish on the side with the eggs last night. The largest fish will not leave
the eggs. Could I have mistaken the fish and it was the male all the time and
it is trying to fertilize the eggs? Could this still be the female and it is
mothering the eggs? If it is female why no eggs for over a year? I just don't
know what to do. My original plan was to get a mate for the original fish when
the babies were all moved. This is not happening right now as I am having
babies. Could the largest fish be mating with a smaller baby fish? Please
help me with this issue. Thank you so much.
<The older fish could be breeding with the siblings. You could have a female and
is trying to breed with the siblings by laying eggs but the younger fish isn't
going for it. Probably the older fish is laying the eggs hoping that one of the
younger males will fertilize the eggs.-Chuck>
Green Severum has laid eggs 9/21/06
Hello,
<Hi there>
In one of my tanks, (55 gal.) I have 2-4" Green Severums, 1-3" Bala
Shark, 1-5" Silver Dollar "Ike"-my favorite fish, 1-3" Pictus
Catfish, 1-4" Electric Blue Cichlid (Yes, I know he shouldn't be
here but he gets along better with the fish in this tank than in my
African Cichlid tank),
<Ah, yes. Many tank-bred Aulonocaras are quite mild>
1-6" Common Pleco, 1-2" Moonlight Gourami, 1-1" Gold Gourami, 1-1"
Opaline Gourami. (My Son wanted Gourami's, and I plan to transfer
these fish to a different tank eventually.) With some mild
aggression at times, the fish are getting along just fine. No Fish
is over-harassing any other fish too much.
The 2 Severums were purchased from different fish stores. They look
alike except for coloration. 1 was sold as a "Turquoise" Severum and
the other as a "Green" Severum.
<Mmm, same species...>
My wife insisted at first that they were different fish. I told her
that they are the same species, and so are Gold Severums. Am I
correct?
<Yes>
Anyway, our 7 year-old daughter spotted eggs laying on some of the
rocks at the bottom. We immediately could see that they were fish
eggs. The eggs are light brown in color. I removed the rocks with
the eggs from the tank and placed them in a breeding net. From all
the reading I can tell with some certainty that this wasn't the
right thing to do. Will these eggs hatch? How will the fry do
afterwards?
Thanks for your help,
Del
<Mmm, might hatch... better left with the parents though... the fry,
raised in either way will have to be fed once free-swimming...
Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/severumreprofaq.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Breeding Severums 7/6/06
Hello, I have 4 Severums in 55 gallon tank 3 golds and 1 green. It would
appear that the 2 larger Severums have spawned and now I have eggs. There are 3
Catfish in this tank 1 Cory, 1 spotted Raphael and 1 Striped Raphael, also in
the tank is a Pleco. I figure I have to remove the cat fish and Pleco, but can I
use a tank divider to separate momma Severum and eggs from the rest?? If so
should I leave the male with the female and eggs or separate him to? Thanks for
any info. Guy Clemency
< Leave the parents with the eggs. The Pleco will be a problem but the parents
should be able to keep the others away. The eggs will hatch in three days and
the fry will become free swimming in three more. When they begin to swim I would
recommend that you use some airline tubing and siphon out the babies and put
them in a tank of their own. In another week the parents may eat the eggs
themselves and get ready to spawn again. When the fry are free swimming they
need to be fed baby brine shrimp and crushed flake food.-Chuck>
Breeding Severums (02/25/03)
I'm going to sound like a COMPLETE ignoramus here, but oh well.
<Ananda here, and believe me, I have done the same thing....>
I have 2 Severums in my community tank. I am interested in breeding
Severums, but have NO idea how to determine the sex of them! I have
read descriptions that say things like "the male has pointier fins",
but I have been unable to see actual side-by-side pictures showing the
differences, which makes the descriptions useless.
<I didn't find any side-by-side photos, either, and read that one of the few
ways you can be certain of the gender of the fish is to examine their genital
papillae. The text didn't specify what to look for, but I suspect the male's
will be more pointed and the female's ovipositor will be rounded. (The other way
to be certain which is which is to catch them spawning!) A female Severum may
have a dark spot on the dorsal fin, while males may have reddish-brown spots and
worm-like markings on the head. >
They are about 3-1/2 to 4" long, one green & one gold. Any
help you can give would be VERY appreciated!
<I've read that these fish do not pair bond particularly easily. I would
suggest a large tank, excellent food, and several fish. If you have one male and
a harem of females, you may get a pair to spawn. As for *finding* that male, you
might need to go to a local fish store with a fair number of these fish in one
tank and just stare at the fish for a while, or look for a cichlid club and ask
its members for help.>
Thanks,
Raven
<You're welcome. --Ananda>
Severum Eggs
Hi this is Valerie. I have two gold Severums and yesterday morning I found
eggs on the wall of my aquarium. Well I bought a screen so that none of the
other could get to them. Well I'm just wondering, how long does it take for
Severum eggs to hatch?
<Hi Valerie, the eggs should hatch within 3-5 days. I do not know
if I would use the screen to separate the parents from the eggs, Severums are
delayed mouth brooders, and make pretty good parents. A quick search
on Google.com for Heros severus breeding should lead you to a wealth of
information. There is also a good article at the link
below. Best Regards, Gage
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/severums.htm >
Thank You,
Valerie
Gold Severum reproduction
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
My two Gold Severums have laid eggs twice in the last 2 weeks and continue to
eat the eggs. Is this normal?
<A lot of fish will eat their own eggs>
I have tried separating them and the eggs don't hatch. Should I be
doing something else??
<I have either hung a breeder net across from the filter stream & raised
the babies in there, or put the eggs in another tank. If you move them, you will
need to cover the intake of the filter w/a sponge or use a sponge
filter. You may need to dose the tank with 1/2 dose Methylene blue,
to prevent fungusing of the eggs.>
<Good luck--Pufferpunk>
Egg Eaters
My breeding pair of Severums keeps eating the eggs. What can I do to prevent
this? They reside in a 75 gallon tank with a 5 inch Pleco.
<Any other tankmates, or is that it?>
They are not very aggressive after they lay the eggs like most other Severums
I've seen. Anyway, what can I do to get these eggs to hatch?
<I read an account where someone had a breeding pair of angels that ate batch
after batch of eggs, and instead of raising the fry himself, he put an African
butterflyfish (Pantodon buchholzi) in the tank with them to see if that would
elicit defensive behavior from the angels (I believe his reasoning behind using
this species was that they really pose no threat to eggs, as they only eat live
fish or insects that find their way to the surface of the water). If
you try something like this, be sure to use a fish that poses no threat to the
eggs, will keep its distance from the angels, and can be easily removed once the
eggs hatch - and even still, there's no guarantee whatsoever that it will work,
but it might be worth a try. You can always remove the eggs once the
parents are through laying and hatching/raising them yourself. Hope
all goes well, -Sabrina>
Gold Severums have laid eggs!!!
After removing the 7 inch Bala shark and spotted African Cichlid and turning
up the heat to 82-84 degrees on the 29 gal tank, the female finally deposited
hundreds of eggs on the wall of the clay pot. Yesterday, the eggs were
clear/opaque and today they are all white. My assumption is that the male
has fertilized almost all of the eggs. I am observing that the male is
maintaining guard over the entrance of the clay pot and keeps the female
away every time she come near the eggs. Is this normal behavior or should I
separate the fish or removed all together? Do I have to do frequent water
changes? Are the eggs safe from the parents? How long until the eggs hatch
into fry? Are the fry safe? Please make any recommendations, I appreciate
your advice.
< The eggs should hatch in three days. The whitish color is an indication that
the eggs may have all died. If they hatch the fry should be free swimming in
about three days. At that time they should be fed baby brine shrimp and finely
crushed flake food. They should be removed from the parents into their own tank
in about a week. The parents will spawn again within a couple of weeks.-Chuck>
JohnB
Gold Severums have laid eggs!!! Bob's go
After removing the 7 inch Bala shark and spotted African Cichlid and turning
up the heat to 82-84 degrees on the 29 gal tank, the female finally deposited
hundreds of eggs on the wall of the clay pot.
<Neat!>
Yesterday, the eggs were
clear/opaque and today they are all white.
<Ohhh... fungused>
My assumption is that the male
has fertilized almost all of the eggs.
<Mmm, maybe... not... could be you have two females... or even that the male is
sterile or did not participate>
I am observing that the male is
maintaining guard over the entrance of the clay pot and keeps the female
away every time she come near the eggs. Is this normal behavior or should I
separate the fish or removed all together?
<Not too abnormal... but... trouble for you and them being in this small a
container... need at least a forty, better a sixty gallon tank or larger... too
stressful, problems if one beats the other...>
Do I have to do frequent water
changes? Are the eggs safe from the parents? How long until the eggs hatch
into fry?
<They won't... they're not viable...>
Are the fry safe? Please make any recommendations, I appreciate
your advice.
JohnB
<John... you need more information than can be gleaned from simply asking
here... do read through what little we have on all cichlids posted here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlivestkindex.htm
and consider getting a good book or two on cichlid husbandry... you can search
these on Amazon, Barnes and Noble... Bob Fenner>
Spawning Severums 7/28/05
Hello, I finally have babies. A long story and I won't bore you with my
experiences, but it has been a very delight to come home and watch the
parenting of the parent fish. Now, my question: I have read all emails that
you
have posted and will remove the babies in a week as you suggested. How often
do
the parents spawn?
< Depends on the conditions and somewhat up to the particular pair. If the eggs
are eaten right away then they will usually spawn in a couple of weeks. If they
are left with the fry then usually the fry hang around for a week or so then
they may be eaten and the pair will spawn again within ten days or so depending
on the water temp and the condition of the pair.>
It was 14 days to the date from the first batch of eggs
that were not successful to the new parents to this second batch. Will they
spawn every 2 week all year long?
< After the third spawn sometimes the female needs a break . The male may kill
her if she is not ready and willing.>
I am in the process in setting up a new
tank for 2 of the first babies and a tank for the bulk of the other babies.
Thank you for this information. I have fish stores in my hometown but they
had not had a personal experience with Severum babies. I have learned a lot
from you and the readers and would love to share my experiences with anyone
with limited questions. Thanks again. Debbie
< Good luck with the fry.-Chuck>
Too Much Of A Good Thing, Or Be Careful What You Wish For! 12/5/05
Hello, I wrote in July and announced the hatching of babies for my Severum couple. I have now had 2 batches and still have the nursery of fish in with
the parents. I have relocated 75 babies and I am moving the others as possible. I have watched the babies for the last couple of months continuously swim
behind the daddy fish. He positions himself nose down a lot of the time in the tank. He can and does swim correctly and eats very well but is
noticeably vertical at times. What can this be?
< The male is using his ventral fins to signal the fry.>
Do you know a good way of getting homes for the approximately 150 other babies? Thanks for the
help. Debbie
< When the fry are about 1 1/2 inches long you can start to call pet shops and tropical fish stores in your area and see if you can sell or trade some of the fry. They may take some and you can make a couple of bucks out of the deal. Go Aquabid.com and see if you want to sell them over the internet. Their may be a local aquarium society in which you can place some of the fry up for auction at a meeting. Their is a national club called the American Cichlid Association that can be found at cichlid.org. They have a publication they put out called the Trading Post in which members can buy and sell fish. Lots of possibilities. Sometimes these big New World cichlids will produce thousands of fry and take care of a market for the entire country.-Chuck>
Breeding Gold Severums 2/10/06
I have two golden Severum fish which for a while have been shifting sand and
stones, cleaning a rock, and going through the motions of laying eggs but
haven't
as yet. They are kept in a 4 foot tank with 7 dwarf rainbow cichlids, a red
tailed shark and one other algae eater. Any suggestions on what to do to get
them breeding?
< Feed them washed earthworms, brine shrimp, meal worms and king worms. Raise
the water temp to 82 F and do a 50% water change once a week. If they are a pair
then I would think that this would get them going in less than two weeks.-Chuck>