Worried
Turtle Not Growing 4/6/08
Okay, I am fourteen with a yellow bellied slider. He is my first turtle so I
am very cautious about anything wrong with him/her. I will have had him for a
year this summer and he has not grown. Unlike the rest of the problems I have
read, he doesn't live and never has been in the same tank with another turtle. I
first got him last summer when I found him trapped in my in ground pool and kept
him. I decided to keep him because there is a pond in the back yard but it has
an alligator in it, and vary large fish, other large turtles, etc. Do you think
this is because he hasn't been with other turtles in so long?
< The reason he hasn't grown is probably environmental. Wrong food, not enough
heat or light and things like that.>
He is still small enough to fit on the thumb muscle in the palm of my hand.
Please help, You are very smart people from what I have read in your articles.
Thank you.
< Start off with the tank. He/she needs a place to come out of the water to
bask. This basking site needs to be 85+ F. It should contain a good basking
light to provide the proper amounts of UVA and UVB. This helps the turtle with
proper vitamin development. Small turtles need a diet higher in protein than
older turtles. Keep the water clean and don't let the water go below 65
F.-Chuck>
Southern Painted Turtle
-03/27/08
Please help...
I have a southern painted turtle who is just the size of a silver dollar. I've
only had him for a couple weeks now and am just getting to know his (her?)
behaviors but the past couple nights/mornings I've noticed he/she is buying
herself under the sand. Why is he/she doing this and is it normal? I'm a bit
worried that I'm doing something wrong!!!
Please help!!!
Kristina
<Kristina, assuming that the turtle is otherwise healthy (i.e., getting a
balanced diet of green foods as well as meat and being kept warm and provided
with UV-B light and clean water for swimming) then I shouldn't be too concerned
about odd behaviours. Yes, turtles do sometimes burrow into sand. Usually this
is because they are overheating, so check the air temperature above the sand
(I'm assuming the sand is the land part of the vivarium). You may have the
lights too close to the sand, so the poor turtle overheats. Do also remember
that ventilation is important, so make sure there are at least a couple of gaps
in the hood to let air circulate. Adult turtles of course will dig nests when
ready to lay eggs, but yours is far too small for that to be an issue. Chrysemys
picta dorsalis reaches sexual maturity at about 10 cm in length in the case of
males, and a little larger for females. Cheers, Neale.>
Turtle Habits 2-05-08
Hi,
<Hey, Mike with ya this evening>
Was wondering if you could help.
<Will try>
I have 2 18 month old yellow bellied turtles(1 male, 1 female) recently the
Mertyl (our female turtle) has been basking a lot and not eating much. I took
her to the vet for a check over as was worried and he said she was fine, Henry
(our male turtle) is eating fine, basking and being pretty normal except for a
high pitch noise, he is not gasping for air. Do turtles communicate through
sound vibrations?
<Turtles don't really audibly communicate at all as far as I know, but can and
do detect sound via vibrations. You may want to perform some further research
regarding the vocalizations, I've never heard of this>
It is not all the time mainly the evening.
<Make sure you have an incandescent bulb that produces UVB, and preferably bring
them out for some sun several times a week>
Also when Mertyl is in the water Henry is getting quite frisky with her could
this be why she's out a lot, he's not being aggressive or biting (think he's
trying to mate but Merts' not interested).
<Could definitely be a cause/factor. Reptiles don't need a whole lot to survive,
and in the winter they naturally don't eat as much, even when kept indoors. As
long as she's eating something, even if it's only once or twice a week, I
wouldn't worry about it. Just make sure they're getting their UVB and sunlight,
and a varied diet, possibly with some vitamin additives>
Would much appreciate some advice.
<Hope I've helped>
Many Thanks
<Anytime>
Carly (Mertyl & Henry)
<M. Maddox>
Painted Turtle - behavior
question 1/27/08
My wife and I are the proud caretakers of Sam, a painted turtle that my
brother and I found about 25 yrs ago. Over the years I've seen much varying
behavior and tend to not worry too much if Sam continues to eat and appears to
be healthy. Our turtle thrashes when she sees us, occasionally we take her out
and hold her for a while which she used to enjoy for a varying periods of time,
even closing her eyes and going to sleep or resting. For the last couple of
months, this has all changed and holding is not tolerated. In addition, she has
gone into a feeding frenzy, almost nipping my fingers when I feed her food
sticks. Why the spastic behavior when she used to be mellow? Is there any reason
to be concerned? Great website by the way, glad I found you. Matt
<Hi Matt. Simply sounds as if your turtle is getting old and cranky. Happens
with most animals and indeed people. Of course, do inspect the animal and look
for any possible sources of pain, such as abnormal swellings, signs of
infection, etc. It would also be a good idea to inspect the faeces for any signs
of worms or an unusual texture. Turtle sticks by themselves aren't a great diet,
so I hope you've been varying that. A bit more fibre might help clear out the
system, relieving any constipation. Chrysemys picta lives a long time, and
compared to wild specimens (which live for over 50 years) yours is middle aged.
Of course, wild turtles spend many months close to dormant, whereas indoor
specimens are kept warm and active all year round. So there are differences, and
yours may indeed be simply getting old. Cheers, Neale.>
Putting my turtles to
hibernation 11/19/07
Hi
<Hiya! Darrel here>
I have a Three Toed Box Turtle (about 6 or 7 inches long) that I have had for 6
or 7 months. I keep him in a large outdoor 5x8 cage built out of cinder blocks 2
high and lined with bricks sunk in the ground inside to keep him from digging
out. There is a small shallow pond in it and I also have a chain link cover over
the top. Our dirt is mostly clay so I mixed up a patch of it with lots of sand
for him to dig in but he never digs.
<Box turtles seldom dig actual holes. They're more likely to just find a natural
depression at the base of some plant and hunker down for the evening or the
season that way.>
It is starting to get colder so I figure he should go into hibernation soon. The
thing is he doesn't dig so I don't know if he will just go sit somewhere and
hibernate. That would be bad for him right?
<"Bad" is a relative term, Amanda. Winter causes their systems to shut down to a
minimum for the season, but you have to remember that in nature, not all of our
animal friends survive each winter. When possible or practical, I arrange for my
animals to be spared the entire process>
I also considered putting a box stuffed with hay for him to dig into in his cage
so he wouldn't have to go underground.
<Two course of action here. You could find a bigger box of cardboard or wood,
put some straw or hay in the bottom and bring him inside, maybe to your room,
and spare him the whole hibernation process. Two, you could get a smaller box,
fill it with straw as you suggest and place him in a safe place on your porch or
in your garage and let him shut down for the season. You don't say where you
live, so I'm not sure just how cold or dangerous your winters are. More on this
in a moment>
Should I stop feeding him yet so his food won't rot in his stomach?
<As fall approaches their appetites should start to shrink and yes, you should
slowly reduce their feedings, both in amount and frequency>
I also have a Map Turtle (about 4 or 5 inches long) I keep in an outdoor
aquarium. Last year I just put him in a smaller container and put him in our
glassed in porch (its unheated) and he hibernated on the bottom of the tank. Is
this an okay way for him to hibernate this year?
<A lot of the same advice applies, Amanda. For my inside animals and individual
specimens, I bring them inside the house or porch and add a little heat and
avoid hibernation, but for my outdoor ponds I have no choice but to let nature
take it's course. The worry is that the pond is deep enough and the body of
water large enough to maintain some temperature balance (cold or hot) and here's
the reason: Most of our reptile and fish friends from temperate climates can
hibernate over winter without problem, but what I call "almost winter" can be
lethal to them. "Almost Winter" is where it is clearly winter and their
metabolisms shut down according to plan, but it's not cold ENOUGH to shut down
all the way .... or it has too many warm periods where they reheat and become
semi-active only to be hit by another cold snap .. these transitions can be
lethal to them.>
<Here's an example: Yes, you could put your Map turtle in a large enough tank
and allow him to over-winter, or you could keep the water warm to around 65-70
and a basking area warm to 88-90 and avoid winter altogether. BUT .... if you
were to let the water become 50 or 55 and still have the basking area active,
his only choices would be TOO HOT (for winter) and TOO COLD (for summer).
Personally, I'd rather see the Map Turtle in a tank on top of the dresser in
your room all year 'round than outside.>
I would appreciate any reply to this.
Thanks. -Amanda
<You're welcome & best of luck to you!>
Turtle care question: fighting or playing?
I have two turtles living in a 55 gal. tank. I got one of them about 5 years
ago, when it was only about 1". The other one I 'adopted' some months ago, and
after a few months in quarantine, I decided to put them together in a larger
tank. They are between 5-6" in size. I've noticed though that one of them chases
the other one around and would not leave it alone. I caught them yesterday
'fighting' and one was biting the other one's back leg. Should I be worried? Are
they just playing or are they really fighting? This is the second time I've seen
them like this, and I'm afraid one of them is going to get hurt. Should I
separate them?
Does a turtle bite can really cause harm considering they have no teeth?
Both turtles are in good health and well fed. Pls help!
Tks in advance
Yenelli
<Turtles (and reptiles in general) don't exhibit play behaviour. What you're
describing is aggression. Turtles can and will do serious harm with their bites:
they may lack teeth but their beaks are very sharp and their jaw muscles very
strong. Big turtles can do serious harm to humans if handled carelessly, and
have been known to bite the feet off other turtles. Males tend to be the most
aggressive, both to each other and to unresponsive females. But in any event if
yours are fighting, they're fighting! Separation is a good idea. Alternatively,
make sure their enclosure allows them to sit apart from each other. Most
fighting is on land. So if you have TWO islands in the tank, each one under its
own lamp (or both under one big lamp) then the two turtles can bask separately.
This should cool down their tempers a bit. Plastic plants can be used to create
underwater hiding places too. Red-ear Sliders (Trachemys scripta elegans) -- the
most common pet turtle -- are not social and can be kept singly without
problems. Good luck, Neale>
Question regarding shell
color on our baby turtles 10/29/07
Dear Crew,
<Hiya! Darrel here this morning>
They are both about 2 1/2 inches in diameter, one turtle has a dark green shell
and the other has a light green shell. Is this normal?
<Yes, that's perfectly OK! Usually as they age the shell colors will turn a bit
darker but I've seen them hang on to brighter colors well into their adulthood.
Now ... if the colors start turning plaid or paisley or the turtle appears to
look like a Peter Max Poster from the 1960's ... it means you're not well and
should see a doctor. Or at least ... cut back a little! Other than that ... look
for spots or patches that change color and THAT might possibly be something of
concern.>
I just want to make sure they are both healthy!
<And we appreciate your concern. Turtles are easy to keep as long as you do a
really good job of providing them the few things that they need. Here's a link
to help you:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/RESCareBarton.htm and also remember
that the Google Search Bar at the bottom of our main page is a great way to
access all kinds of articles and information. Finally, we always welcome
questions AND pictures if you're seeing something that you don't feel you can
describe>
Thank you...
Cheryl
<Yer most welcome!>
Turtle behavior question...
10/12/07
This is my first time asking a website a question. Pardon me if I did not
post it properly. I am not web savvy, but my curiosity about a turtle is killing
me.
<Hiya Kath & welcome. You're doing JUST FINE so far. Although I DO have to admit
that about 7 or 8 jokes ran through my mind about people claiming to have never
been on the web before, but since this IS your first time here -- the first of
many, we all hope ... I'm going to behave myself>
I was at a small outdoor pond in Oct 2007 at Brookside's Gardens in Wheaton, MD.
I saw two turtles whose behavior amazed me. I was hoping your group could
explain it to me.
<I hope so too. I've given up trying to explain my kid's behavior, so maybe I
can manage a turtle or two>
Two turtles, one bigger (shell, maybe 7 inches across), one smaller (shell,
maybe 5 inches across), were swimming slowly with heads out of the water. Both
turtles had a yellow stripe and a smaller red mark on their faces.
<Red Eared Sliders. Some of the nicest water turtles you'll ever meet>
The small turtle swam directly in front of the big turtle, until they were head
to head in a straight line. The small turtle stuck its front legs straight out,
claws extended forward, and gently laid its claws on either side of the big
turtle's head. The small turtle then did this weird gesture - it softly fanned
or vibrated its claws on either side of the head of the big turtle for about
5-10 seconds. The big turtle sort of tolerated/accepted this gesture, but
continued to swim forward. The little turtle swam like hell to catch up to the
big one, cautiously got it front it and repeated the gesture. This went on at
least 10 times until the people with me got bored and I had to leave with them.
The little turtle seemed very motivated to do this behavior. Any ideas?
<Yes Ma'am. I know it well. In fact, I tried that VERY SAME BEHAVIOR on a woman
I met at a party last night. And, oddly enough, she also tolerated it for a
while and then got bored and moved on.>
<What you saw was courting behavior. It's the turtle equivalent of a young man
turning his car stereo up to ear drum destroying decibels and then cruising past
the young lady of his desire under some hope that she'll be so impressed with
the vibration that she'll run after the car until she can leap in the side
window.>
<The males, which are smaller than the females, grow very long front claws so
that they can wave them in front of the potential mates, apparently saying "Hey
Baby, look at these long claws, we should get together some time!" and usually,
just as you observed, the female looks and him and his claws, mulls over the
possibilities and them swims on. Personally, I think she looks around and then
thinks "Typical MALE! I've been trying for 7 years now to grow my nails out just
past the end of my fingers and every time I try they break off -- even sometimes
in my sleep-- and here he grows those ridiculously long nails WITHOUT EVEN
TRYING and what does he do??? He FLAUNTS them in my face! Typical male!>
<But then .... that's just what *I* think.... somewhere along the line, the
right male flutters the right claws in just the right way and the next thing you
know they're mating and then she digs a hole in the sand and lays eggs and then
90 to 120 days later 6 or 8 little green babies pop out.>
<So there you have it. Courting behavior.>
<On behalf of everyone here at Wet Web Media ... I hope you enjoyed your first
time and hope that it will encourage you to do it again!>
Kath
<Darrel>
Turtle question, beh. – 9/27/07
Dear Crew
<Hiya Janis>
How long can a turtle be on his back if he can't right himself?
<There are several issues related to him being on his back but they're all
pretty much immediate. That is to say that if you don't see evidence of the
problem right away, then there probably is no problem. In their excitement and
effort to right themselves, they can regurgitate (a nice way to say "throw up",
isn't it?) and then choke on that. Obviously didn't happen. When upside down
they are exposed (no pun intended) to predators (not a problem, we hope) and the
elements -- which is to say that they can't move in and out of the heat. A
turtle upside down under a basking lamp or the hot sun can literally die from
the heat. This didn't happen, which leaves us only with heat stroke causing
brain damage, which is a problem with turtles because ... after all ... how can
you tell a "normal" one from a "weird" one? It's not like my brother-in-law who
is just obviously damaged.>
I found my turtle that way after a day away and now I'm worried. I have no idea
how long he was like this.
<I understand the worry. I have several herds of adult tortoise that are outside
animals and if I travel more than a day trip, I either have to have someone
check on them ... or I worry the whole time I'm gone. It goes with the territory
of being a responsible "parent". Just observe him for a while. If he is eating,
pooping and active and doesn't act like my weird brother in law ... just put it
out of your mind.>
<Two things though -- check his habitat to make sure that you haven't
accidentally created a condition or a location that would cause this to happen
... and then have a stern talk with him about the dangers of unsupervised
playing.>
<Everything will be fine>
Thanks,
Janis
<Yer welcome! Darrel>
Mud /musk turtle coming out of hibernation –
7/3/07
Dear Crew,
<Hiya, Darrel here>
My Mud Turtle has been buried in the dirt for probably 6-7 months.
<I'm going to go off on a tangent here for a moment. If this is an indoor
environment, there'd be no reason for hibernation and if this is outdoors,
unless you live very far north, this is very, very late to be coming out of
hibernation.>
He finally emerged a few days ago. he stayed in their dirt area for a couple of
days, he looks really dry, so I poured some of the tank water over his shell.
That day he finally went into the water side.
<What I see most often in mud turtles is, for some reason, simply a dislike for
a particular pond and they climb out, go hunting for a new pond and when they
come to the fence, they simply bury themselves. If they're not found fairly
quickly, they're emaciated and unhealthy when they finally come out again.>
And Its been a few days now and all he does is float around. He hasn't eaten
anything. He's gone to the bottom of the tank a couple of times but he mainly
just floats around. He's I guess shedding some skin.
<None of this is particularly good news, but then again it's not crisis time,
either>
There is no drainage from the nose. His eyes look good.
<Good signs>
My main question I guess is the floating around normal after hibernating? Does
it take some time for them to recoup?
<Not the way you're describing it -- this sounds more like the little guys has
some problems.>
I've been trying to find information online, but can only find information on
box turtles.
<Keep him on land, please. For now. Go to the pet store or bait shop and get a
container of night crawlers (heavy-duty earthworms). Put him in a shallow pan of
lukewarm water for 10 minutes under sunlight or normal room bright lights (just
not darkness) twice a day and look for activity -- movements, poking his head
out to see what's going on, etc. and after you see attempts at activity, offer
one worm. If he doesn't chow down, try again tomorrow and let's give him another
4-5 days to come around. Hydration, warmth and nutrition are that basics -- once
we have those covered he'll start to perk up.>
Re: mud /musk
turtle coming out of hibernation – 07/06/07
I wanted to thank you for the quick reply. My turtle climbed out of
the water himself after I sent you the mail. He's been walking around in
the dirt/grass side of the tank, he climbed on top of the rock. I got
some worms and took him out of the tank and put him in the sink with
warm water. He still didn't eat anything. he kind of pecked at the worm
but didn't eat it. He is moving a lot now, so maybe he's coming around
in time. Again thank you for your advice. I will try the worms again in
the morning.
<In a set-up like yours, I doubt hibernation is an issue. I suspect that
he wasn't hibernating as much as he was trying to get away from your
Musk Turtle. The little guy was probably running away from home, so to
speak, and is now just coming back to that world and acclimating again.
This happens from time to time and it's possible that now, for no
particular reason, everything will be "better" and he won't do it again.
As long as he's doing the right things, we won't ask too many questions.
Keep offering the food as he gets more active.>
p.s. hopefully the pics aren't too big of a file. the first one is of
the 55 gallon tank set up i have. the second on is of the turtle i was
asking about.
<A nice looking Mud Turtle!>
and the third one is a pic of all three of my turtles that are in the
tank.
<A very handsome Musk Turtle on the left>
the slider i saved from a death bowl a friend of mine had it living in
for like 3 years. the turtle still looked like a baby. i couldn't
believe it survived that long. i made her give him to me.
<Good for you! Keep up the good work>
<Darrel> |
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Turtle Growth 4/16/07
Hello, My name is Cindy and I have two pet turtles, Todd and Chelsy, but I
don't know if there a boy or girl and on most websites they say that turtles at
that age are too young. So my question is, do they grow fast?
< Most young turtles seem to grow quickly when they are young. As they get older
their diet changes from a meaty high protein diet to more of a vegetarian diet
with less protein. At first they should grow and inch or two a year up until
they get around four inches, then it may be around a inch or less. >
How big do they grow to? 7 inches?
< You did not mention the species of the turtles, so I am forced to guess that
you have red eared sliders, the most common turtle in the trade. Males are
smaller than females and can probably get up to 7 inches over many years.
Females sometimes get up to 12 inches.>
I'm curios, and I love them, please tell me the best way to make it love me like
I love them. thank you!!!!!!!!
< Turtles really don't form an affection for people like a puppy dog. What they
will do instead is identify with the person that feeds them. Every time you walk
by they will follow you around begging for food. Your biggest challenge will be
not to over feed them. If they eat too much they can die. Turtle's stomachs
can't can't expand because of the shell restricting them. The food will displace
and squeeze their internal organs and cause problems.-Chuck>
Wild Turtle Coming out Of Hibernation - 04/04/2007
Hello, guys and girls. Earlier today my father-in-law found a turtle sunning
itself in the middle of the road. He picked it up and decided to bring it home
for the night, our weather is predicted to get below freezing for the next
couple of days. He brought the turtle over to me. I myself own a turtle, I think
he may of thought I would put the wild turtle with my pet turtle for the night.
I of course had to refuse.
Anyway, I looked the turtle over and discovered that I could not see the turtles
eyes. He could open and close the lids, but the eyes themselves are totally
covered over with a crusty, caked on substance. I assume it to be puss, it is
rather quite discussing to look at. Also there was a white, watery liquid
dripping from the cloaca. It reminded me of watered down milk. I thought at
first maybe a vitamin deficiency, but now I'm not sure. Could this be some form
of disease?
My father-in-law plans to release the turtle back into the wild within the
next couple of days, when the weather is again warm. What do you suppose the
turtles chances of surviving will be? Is there anything we can do to increase
those chances? Thank you for any help you can give this little turtle. Casey
< Springtime plays havoc with wild turtles in cold areas. Sound like a turtle
typically coming out of hibernation. They come out as soon as a few warm days
show up ,only then to get hit by a cold front that they cannot handle. I would
recommend that you keep the turtle in a container with warm (70's) water just
covering the shell. The eyes may be covered with a silt/clay crust that should
dissolve in the water in a day or two. If they are still pussy then some vitamin
A drops could be added to the eyes to clean them up. Once the turtle can see you
could offer some food. Check the weather report for your area and release the
turtle when there is at least a week of decent weather to give him a
chance.-Chuck>