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Recommendations for anemone lighting –
07/10/08
Hello,
I really want to build a reef tank. It will be a few years from now when I
finally get around to starting it, but I like to plan out everything slowly.
<Wow! Laudable>
I have decided I want a 180 gal. Reef tank that is nicely stocked with live
rock, 5-6in. of live sand and oolite sand because some of the fish and
invertebrates I have chosen need a deep sand bed to burrow in.
<Depends on species... but useful in many other ways>
I will probably have a wet/dry filter (haven't truly decided on what type of
filter I want, but I'm leaning toward wet/dry), chiller, protein skimmer, UV
sterilizer, and everything else that I may need for my reef set up. I plan on
putting a variety of corals and an anemone or two in the tank. From reading up
on anemones you can only have the same species in a tank so I guess even with
the 180 gal. I could only have one type of species or could I possible have two
different types?
<Can be mixed... with time, effort... posted>
The only species I am truly interested in is the Bubble Tip Anemone and my
question is about lighting. I know they need bright light and I am looking at
light fixtures. The fixture I am thinking of buying is Giesemann 3x 250W HQI +
4x 80W T5 lights. So that's about 6 watts per gallon. Will the anemone thrive
with this lighting?
<Mmm, in this size, depth system... can>
I want it to thrive and not just barely making it by.
If this won't work, what type of fixture should I look into?
<This wattage, number of metal halides is about ideal... the manufacturer a
paragon of excellence>
I really like Giesemann Moonlight Infiniti fixture as it has lunar lights and
moon cycles, etc. etc. Thanks in advance for any information you can give me.
<Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/CnidIndex2.htm
the areas on Anemone Systems, Lighting, Entacmaea... Bob Fenner>
Is there enough lighting?
Lighting Recommendations for Anemones – 6/14/08
Hi,
<Hello John, Brenda here! >
First let me say that your site has been extremely helpful and I have learned
quite a bit from reading other posts.
<Great! >
As for now, I am a little confused about lighting. I recently changed my tank to
a 40 gallon breeder 36x18x18 from a 36 gallon bow 30x15x24. I took my Power
compact light and combined it with another giving me 4 x 65watts of light for
the 40 gallon breeder tank. My question is; is this enough to keep anemones,
such as bubble tips, carpet and Sebae?
<You could get away with keeping an E. quadricolor (bubble tip), but you may
find that you have to increase feedings to satisfy this anemone. I do not
recommend keeping any other species of anemones under power compact lighting.>
Should I go with more lighting?
<More lighting would be my choice. I consider power compact lighting to be
borderline in this case and can be the difference between surviving and
thriving. >
Maybe do 6x39w T5 or am I just wasting money by upgrading?
<The 6 X 39W T5, with individual reflectors, would be a nice upgrade. >
I would like to keep some anemones, I have a Sebae now and it is doing fine, but
I would also like to try out some LPS and SPS hard corals and some sea fans.
<A 40g tank is much too small for mixing species of anemones. I do not recommend
mixing species unless you have a system of a few hundred gallons or more. I also
do not recommend keeping a carpet anemone in a 40g. >
From what I can see they take quite a bit of light. Between T5, power compacts
and metal halide it is all just too confusing and the more I read from your site
the more confused I am getting. At one point I was convinced I should go Metal
Halide and now I am not so sure.
<I am a huge fan of T-5 lighting. I have kept anemones under T-5, PC, and Metal
Halide. With the T-5 you do not have the heat issues that come with the metal
halide. You also have a longer bulb life. If you decide to go with the T-5, be
sure to select one with individual reflectors. Without the individual
reflectors, the T-5 lighting is comparable to power compact lighting. If you go
with metal halide, I would go with two 175 watt bulbs. With the lighting I have
recommended, you will be able to keep LPS, SPS and sea fans.>
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, John
<You’re welcome! I hope this helps! Brenda >
Re: Is there enough lighting?
Lighting Recommendations for Anemones – 6/14/08
Brenda,
Thank you for all the information. I will go with the T5 set up and stick with
the 1 anemone that I currently have, without adding anymore. Thanks again for
all your help. John
<You’re welcome! Brenda >
Anemone bleaching
New Bulbs Shocking the Anemone, Clownfish Fighting – 6/4/08
Hi WWM
<Hello Joe, Brenda here!>
I love this site it is so helpful every time I come across a problem.
<That is good to hear, thank you! >
I have a reef tank that is about 3-4 years old. I was neglecting it to an extent
this past year and it has the same power compact bulbs in there for 2 years!
<Yikes! These should be changed out about every 9 months. >
I have a couple corals, flame angel, six-line wrasse, sand sifter goby, and a
BTA. The BTA was doing fine under the lighting I had, it was brown in color and
was looking healthy. I just replaced the lights (thank god) and added 2 false
Percs. They are hanging out near the anemone and for the first week they were
fine. Now they will not stop fighting, locking jaws and spinning around.
Constantly they are battling and this has been going on for about a week.
<You may have two females. If so they will fight to the death of one or both of
them. >
I have also noticed my anemone is now starting to turn whiter towards the top of
it. Could this be from replacing the lights?
<Yes. >
Should I only have them on half of the normal cycle?
<I recommend putting some window screen over the tank for a week or so to get
the anemone used to the light. What size tank is this on, and how many watts of
PC do you have? How much is day light and how much is actinic? >
What can I do about the clownfish fighting?
<If they are both females you can’t do anything except remove one. How big are
these clownfish? It is not uncommon for newly introduced clownfish to fight.
However, you will have to be the judge and decide if they need to be separated
or if they are possibly working things out. >
Thanks Joe
<You’re welcome! Brenda>
My quadricolor
-Glowing E. Quadricolor, BTA, Lighting Change – 5/21/08
Hi Gang,
<Hello, Brenda here! >
I have had my E. quadricolor for over two years and he has even been
host to my clownfish.
<Great! >
When I first acquired him he was small and eventually grew. At the time
I had a 55 gallon tank and power compact lighting. At that time my E.
quadricolor looked like most I see in captivity. He had a brown/orangey
color to him with some dark green and pink tips though you had to look
hard on the tip of the tentacle to see the pink. Anyway, I had decided
on upgrading my light and tank several months ago and my wattage went up
substantially. I now have 2-250watt MH and 2-96watt actinics. Ever since
the upgrade my anemone began changing colors.
<It sounds like your previous lighting was borderline and your anemone
is now thriving. >
His green began to get more of a lime tone to it very bright. The
orange is still there but mostly on his base and disc. When the lights
go out this anemone GLOWS!! Is this normal??
<This is the lighting that is causing this. >
I sent a picture of what he looks like now and how he glows when the
lights are off with just the lunar lights. Can he be getting too much
light?
<It is possible, however, if the anemone is not roaming, and appears
healthy, I would leave things alone. >
Is that even possible for this anemone?
<Yes, it is possible, but I do not believe this is the case. >
He still eats, never moved since I placed him in that rock the first
day, and is still sticky.
<Perfect! >
He still basically my same old BTA but just a glowing version that looks
really cool but has me worried that he may not be happy.
<No need to worry! It sounds like you have a happy, healthy anemone! >
Thanks in advance.
<You’re welcome! Brenda > |
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New Anemone Hiding in Low Light Area – 05/16/08
Hi Guys!
<Hello Frank, Brenda here!>
You've been so helpful in the past with equipment/tank questions I figured you
were the natural choice when it came to livestock questions too.
<Thank you for the positive feedback! >
I usually do a TON of research on anything before I buy it and so I've been
waiting for a LONG time for my tank to settle before I finally bought the
anemone that I want (a beautiful greenish bulb-tip anemone).
<An excellent choice! >
It came via FedEx yesterday (I'm a fan of Live Aquaria for good livestock since
the stores in my area charge outrageous prices and aren't that great to begin
with), and went into my tank at night after the lights were down. I thought I
had a good place for it at first and the current blew it all over the map so it
didn't attach there and so I picked up the little aquatic tumbleweed and tried
another spot I liked (and thought it would too). That time, it stuck. Seemed to
have a good hold and opened up and also started moving a bit (deeper into a sort
of depression in the rock).
<This is not unusual. >
After watching for a bit and thinking all was well, I finally went to bed. When
I woke up... he was nowhere to be found (a mild panic moment set in at that
point). Looking a little more carefully, I found he'd attached himself within
the rockwork in the back a fair distance from where I left him last night and
where the current would blow him if he lost his grip.
<He’s searching for a suitable place to call home. This is normal. Make sure you
have all of your intakes protected, or your anemone will become shredded if it
should lose its grip. >
I've got a pretty open system, not a rock wall. Firmly wedged into a rock
crevice, as I know these guys like, I could obviously NOT detach him without
doing serious damage so decided to let him find his own way to the light
(luckily for me, there's not much light in the back of the tank).
<The anemone having a firm grip is an excellent sign. >
He's opened himself up pointing towards the back wall and, even though there
isn't a whole lot of light there, he hasn't moved. His foot sticks partway out
to the front of the tank, but the big beautiful tentacles are all, sadly for me,
pointed backwards and fully open.
<Unfortunately this anemone does not realize that you want him to be the center
of attention. >
I know they move around a lot, but I'm concerned that he may stay facing that
way and die a slow death of light deficiency (perhaps a bit of over dramatic
since it's only been a day, but hey, I like him).
<If water parameters are up to par, this anemone will be fine. Give him a few
weeks to find his way. He is stressed from shipment, and needs to be left alone.
Only handle this anemone if it detaches and is being taken for a ride in the
current. >
How long should I wait and see if he moves before I start to try other measures
and, if I do have to, which ones would you use?
<I don’t recommend moving the anemone unless it is in an immediate physical
danger. >
I've heard that pointing a small power head directly at the foot can encourage
an anemone to move, especially this type. Thoughts?
<This will cause more stress, on an already stressed anemone. Shipping is
extremely harsh on these creatures. This anemone needs to finish acclimating to
its new environment. This may take a few weeks. >
Will obviously wait, but just want to be ready when/if it happens. Thanks so
much for all your help in the past and hope to hear from you soon!
<You’re welcome!>
Frank
PS For reference, 75 gallon reef, Outer Orbit HQI T5HO, established for
about 4 years in one form or another (dramatic rescue operation about a 6 months
ago when 50 gallon sprang a leak, but all same water, rocks, etc).
<Brenda>
RE: New Anemone Hiding in Low Light Area – 05/16/08
Thanks Brenda!
<Hello Frank! >
Will give it a few weeks to see what it does/where it goes.
<Good! >
I did decide to use a little trickery on it, though. It's way down low in the
tank so I simply used a loose piece of live rock to cover up the hole in the
rockwork from which it's getting direct light. Still getting diffuse, but
figured that might help it a) avoid light shock from the T5HOs and b) encourage
it to seek out more light when it's ready.
<It may, but I would just let it work through the acclimation process by itself.
>
One question on feeding, I have been told that this is a species, which
requires additional feeding 2-3 times a week.
<Typically, yes. >
I know the dangers of overfeeding anemones, but the illustrious Bob Fenner was
clear that this one needed it.
<If the anemone is healthy, I would try to feed it 2 – 3 times a week. Feed
small portions, smaller than the anemones mouth. In heavily feed tanks, anemones
do not need to be fed as often. >
I'm wondering how soon to start feeding (i.e. while it's still in hiding?) and
whether this is in addition to the frozen food I add to the tank daily which
includes some of the dietary requirements of the anemone.
<You can try feeding tiny pieces now. Target feeding something like Mysis
shrimp, may be the easiest using a turkey baster or syringe. >
Thanks for all your help and I'll let you know how it goes!
Frank
<You’re welcome, and I’m looking forward to updates. Brenda>
Is my set up
ok, reef... op. 04/28/2008
Hi,
<<Hello, Andrew today>>
I am just starting off with a reef aquarium and need advice. I will
apologize ahead of time for the multitude of questions I have but I am
being
told differing things from my local aquariums. Okay, my set-up -4ft
(200L) tank running a 600L/hr filter, 24volt UV stabiliser (450L/hr)
1700L/hr power attached to an inside protein skimmer, double T5 light (1
white globe and 1 actinic globe) and of course a heater. I currently
have a Heliofungia,
<Heliofungia don't generally live in captivity... Read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/fungiidselfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. RMF>
a bubble coral, some other coral that looks like purple flowers with
bright green centres, a bubble tip anemone, 2 clown fish, a mandarin, a
starfish, a bit of live rock and a blue stripe goby. Everything is
looking good and appears to be healthy and happy.
<<How long has this tank been running for? I would like to hope over a
year after reading your inhabitants>>
So now for my issues - one of the local aquariums shops said I need at
least a 2000L/hr filter and 3000L/hr wave maker on top of what I have.
The other shop said to see how I go with my current filter but put in a
5000L/hr wave maker. As I have said I am new to this but currently my
tank is cycling 2750L/hr and I am being told I need to increase this to
9150L/hr by adding in the other things. Like I said I am new to this but
that seems excessive for a 200L tank. I really do want to do the best
thing for my tank but I want honest advice.
<<Flow wise, in a reef aquarium, its best to aim in the region of around
25 x water volume circulated per hour via powerheads. So, in this
situation, you would want to be aiming for about 2175 "gallons" per
hour. This can be achieved by adding some good flow powerheads like
Hydor Koralia types that provide a good flow, however, its a dispersed
flow>>
Secondly I was told that corals love strong current so I had them
positioned in direct line with the powerhead current (before I added the
skimmer), when I attached the skimmer to the powerhead the current was
considerably cut yet my corals seems to rather the lighter current
especially my Heliofungia which has been "blown Up" (for want of better
words) since the decreased current (not continually, it does go down
overnight with the light off) and the bubble and the purple flower one
seem to be the same as when the strong current was happening.
<<Ahhhh. Heliofungia is one of them which is common to inflate itself.
Most actually think this to be an anemone, however, it is not, its a
stony coral. The inflation is used to allow the coral to move in the
tank, keep stability, buoyancy on soft substrate. Its inflation is not
something to be overly concerned about unless its inflated 24/7>>
<<With regards to corals and flow, all corals have their own specific
needs. Some like high / fast flow, some prefer slow gentle flow. What
we, as owners have to do, is research each coral, ensure we can
accommodate its needs and provide the correct environment. So, the
statement of " Corals love strong current " is only partly correct>>
One thing no-one seems to be able to answer is the fact that my bubble
tip anemone closes up when I have the light on but opens (not to its
full extent) when the light is off but it use to open up really well
when I only had a single T8 light.
<<It could well be just adapting to the change in lighting. Most times,
a light change involves acclimatizing the tank to the new level of
lighting by slightly diffusing the light and gradually build up the
intensity into the tank>>
As I said I really want to do the right thing in regard to my tank so
PLEASE I need honest, reliable and good advice. I have attached a pic of
my
Heliofungia with the decreased current (pic 1) and the strong current
(pic 2)(all the orange, green and white coral/plant is just a backdrop)
<<Yes, took me a moment to separate reality from backdrop, very
confusing on the eye>>
Cheers, Lozza
<<Hope the above helps Lozza, good day. A Nixon>>
Anemone Lighting/Overall System
4/28/09
Hi, I am just starting off with a reef aquarium and need advice.
<Hello Lozza, ok.>
I will apologize ahead of time for the multitude of questions I have but
I am being told differing things from my local aquarium stores.
<Understood.>
Okay, my set-up -4ft (200L) tank running a 600L/hr filter, 24volt UV
sterilizer (450L/hr) 1700L/hr powerhead attached to an inside protein
skimmer, double T5 light (1 white globe and 1 actinic globe) and of
course a heater. I currently have a Heliofungia, a bubble coral, some
other coral that looks like purple flowers with bright green centres, a
bubble tip anemone, 2 clown fish, a mandarin, a starfish, a bit of live
rock and a blue stripe goby.
<Mixing anemones with corals usually ends up in trouble. Also, your
lighting is nowhere near sufficient. Your tank is also much too small to
sustain the Mandarin. A larger system with plenty live rock and ideally
a fishless refugium are required.>
Everything is looking good and appears to be healthy and happy. So now
for my issues - one of the local aquariums shops said I need at least a
2000L/hr filter and 3000L/hr wave maker on top of what I have.
<This gives you 25 X turnover an hour, a bit high for a non SPS system.>
The other shop said to see how I go with my current filter but put in a
5000L/hr wave maker. As I have said I am new to this but currently my
tank is cycling 2750L/hr and I am being told I need to increase this to
9150L/hr by adding in the other things.
<9150 LPH is much more than you need. Something in the range of 3000
total should suffice. What is your current filter? How much live rock?>
Like I said I am new to this but that seems excessive for a 200L tank.
<Yes, it is.>
I really do want to do the best thing for my tank but I want honest
advice. Secondly I was told that corals love strong current so I had
them positioned in direct line with the powerhead current (before I
added the skimmer),
<Hmm, you do not want to do this, too much of a laminar flow. The flow
needs to be indirect and random, usually accomplished by directing flows
at one another.>
when I attached the skimmer to the powerhead the current was
considerably cut yet my corals seems to rather the lighter current
especially my Heliofungia which has been "blown Up" (for want of better
words) since the decreased current (not continually, it does go down
overnight with the light off) and the bubble and the purple flower one
seem to be the same as when the strong current was happening.
<Likely due more from the total environment than just the flow.>
One thing no-one seems to be able to answer is the fact that my bubble
tip anemone closes up when I have the light on but opens (not to its
full extent) when the light is off but it use to open up really well
when I only had a single T8 light.
<It is likely declining due to lack of light and the total environment
it is in. You need more lighting (at least 5-6 times what you have) and
ideally more live rock from the looks of the pictures. Theses anemones
basically require a full reef type setting in a mature, stable tank.>
As I said I really want to do the right thing in regard to my tank so
PLEASE I need honest, reliable and good advice. I have attached a pic of
my Heliofungia with the decreased current (pic 1) and the strong current
(pic 2).
<Honestly not much of a notable difference from the pictures. This too
will need more lighting, in addition to your other corals.>
(all the orange, green and white coral/plant is just a backdrop)
<A nice background it is! It makes the tank look very full of life.>
Cheers,
Lozza
<A few links are included for you to study and follow below. Good luck,
Scott V.>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/circmarart.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm |
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Light Panels, canopy... design
4/26/08
Dear WWM crew,
<Hello there Lindsay.>
I am in the process of getting materials for my first aquarium. I have a 55
gallon SeaClear tank (48"x13"x21"). I plan to eventually have a fish/invert
system plus live rock (corals are probably too far out of my league). Although I
plan to get started with fish-only and slowly work my way towards inverts, I've
been selecting equipment for the final stages.
<Smart, plan ahead and spend less time and money.>
One particular question I had is regarding lighting and a tank cover. I
purchased a Hagen GLO T5 HO 48" with 2, 18K lights. My particular goal is to get
an anemone with clownfish.
<This will not be nearly enough light. You will need at the least 3-4 times
this, preferably in the 10,000 Kelvin range.>
However, I don't know what type of cover I can have with this light. My tank
doesn't have a canopy, so there are several openings I need to cover. At the
same time I don't want to use a cover that's going to block out the light and
not be enough strength for inverts.
<This can be a dilemma, balancing the benefits of each option.>
I looked at egg crate panels and only see 1/2"x1/2" grid-type. I would like to
get a Jawfish at some point and maybe Firefish, and I know they're notorious
jumpers. I fear that a Jawfish would get past this no problem.
<Not to say it can’t happen, but it is very unlikely.>
I also saw styrene prismatic panels which are also made for in-ceiling
fluorescent fixtures. This has raised edging but no holes to jump through. Is
this suitable for my set-up or will this block the lighting too much?
<These do tend to diffuse much of the light, I would not use them for a
potential reef.>
Am I better off with the egg crate panel?
<Yes.>
If so, will jumping be a concern?
<Very little of a concern. If all is aligned just right, the planets and such,
the fish could wiggle through, but it is rare.>
Any other ideas?
<A solid piece of glass or acrylic would work, although this does diffuse and
scatter some of the light also. The other nice thing to keep in mind about an
open cover such as the eggcrate is the evaporative cooling effect it allows.
This can make the difference between investing/running a chiller and not.>
By the way, loved The Conscientious Marine Aquarist.
<I do too! This will be passed along to Bob.><<Ahh! Thank you. The new, 2d. ed.
is soon to be out... Is a beauty, enlarged, updated a great deal (needed it for
sure!), but a bunch more money... only in hardbound for another year or two.
RMF>>
Sincerely,
Lindsay
<Have fun, congratulations on the new tank! Scott V.>
Re: Light Panels/Anemone Lighting
4/27/08
Thanks for the feedback!
<Very welcome.>
Would 1 bulb at 6700K and 1 actinic bulb be more appropriate, or
otherwise, what would you recommend for an anemone?
<The 10000K bulbs are fine, will look better aesthetically than the
6500’s. You will need at least 6 or so of these daylight bulbs to keep
an anemone happy in this tank. Even then this is hoping the anemone is
content in the upper half of the tank. They are very light hungry
creatures, a two bulb T5 will not cut it. For more info on anemone
lighting check out the link and related FAQ’s. Regards, Scott V.>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm
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Anemone Lighting, poor lvstk.
mix... poor response, referrals lacking 3/12/08
Hello,
<Hi Matt>
I just purchased a 150g reef ready tank that is 30 inches deep. I am confused as
to which lights I need. My tank will be FOWLR and anemones and hopefully an eel.
<Not a good idea to mix fish that are not compatible with anemones, you more
than likely may lose a few.>
<<... refer them to where...>>
I really think I need the glass canopy on the tank because of evaporation and
the eel.
<And to protect the light fixture and reduce UV, especially with HQI lamps.>
Will the new T5's work?
https://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/239340/product.web ) or will I have to go
with some sort of metal halide because the tank is so deep.
If I do have to go with metal halides, can I still use a glass canopy.
Maybe you all have a better suggestion or idea that I'm not thinking of?
Please help me.
<To keep anemones in that deep of a tank, metal halides or HQI would be the way
I'd go.
Read here and linked files above.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm>
Thank you,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Matt
BTA lighting needs 03/09/2008
Hi guys (you rock!)
<<Hello, Andrew here....Hmmm...Do we "live" rock? .....he he he>>
I turned my old 14g BioCube into a qt tank for my 75g, and I got a green BTA the
other day, it's about 2", very small, and I stuck him in there for the time
being, is there enough light in there to sustain him for a while? it has a 24w
10000k daylight, and 24w true actinic...he found a nice spot on a piece of rock
about 5" from the surface and seems to be happy there. when the time comes to
move him to the big tank, I'm just going to move the entire rock he's on...so is
there enough light in there to sustain him?
<<As long as it seems happy in there, I would not worry too much. I would agree
that when you move this, take the rock and all to the other tank. A word on
quarantine tanks here for future. Its always best not to use live rock in the
quarantine tank...Reason for this is because its an idea place to harbour
parasites and for them to move from one inhabitant to the next. The best thing
to use is pieces of PVC pipe, like house drain pipe parts and a bare bottom to
the tank. This way, there is nowhere for anything to attach too>>
Thanks, Rob
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Sebae Anemone, Lack of
Lighting – 3/5/08
Hi Crew,
<Hi Ashley, Brenda here!>
I recently purchased a small Sebae anemone for my 55 gallon tank. In this tank I
have 2 false Percula clownfish, 2 Peppermint shrimp, 2 Scooter blennies, and a
number of snails and hermit crabs.
<Crabs can become predators to anemones.>
I have 2 Emperor filters going and a 40 watt 48" light and a 65 watt 24" light.
<I strongly recommend a protein skimmer in place of the Emperor filters,
especially when keeping anemones.>
The worker of the fish store said this should be enough lighting for the
anemone.
<This is not even close to being enough lighting for this anemone.>
The clownfish are still very timid and have only explored it a bit and nothing
else in the tank gets near it. The levels are as follows: specific gravity -
1.024,
<Needs to be 1.026>
pH - 8.2, ammonia and nitrite - 0, KH - around 7, nitrate - 20ppm,
<Nitrates need to be zero.>
and temp is generally around 80 degrees. It has only been a couple of days and
for the most part it seems fine but a bunch of its tentacles shrink sometimes
during the day, although at night when the lights are off it seems to extend
more fully. It's nestled in the sand but I'm not sure if it's fully rooted. It
is the occasions when the tentacles get small that worry me. Is this normal
behavior or does it need more lighting (is yes, how much).
<Anemones do occasionally shrink to exchange water and to expel waste. However,
this animal does need a lot more lighting. I recommend two 175 watt (minimum)
metal halide or as many 54 watt T-5 bulbs (with individual reflectors) that you
can get over the tank.>
Thanks,
Ashley
Is My Normal Output
Fluorescent Lighting Suitable for Anemone and Corals? (The Short Answer Is…No) –
02/12/08
Hello,
<<Hiya, Joan!>>
I read and then reread your article on lighting.
<<And?...>>
I have used Vita-Lites for many many years and thought they would be fine for my
introduction of inverts, an anemone to start with, and maybe a coral or two.
<<Mmm, you will need to be more specific than “a coral or two”…and some
specifics about your tank would be a big help too...oh, and do read up on our
site re anemone systems/mixing with sessile inverts (not recommended). As for
the Vita-Lites…these are a great “daylight” spectrum fluorescent bulb, but being
a NO (Normal Output) bulb you need a fair number of them over the tank, with
actual “numbers” depending on the light-requirements of the organisms you plan
to keep. And while it is possible to keep some coral species under NO
fluorescent lighting (I did so back in the late-eighties and early-nineties), I
don’t recommend this for keeping Anemones>>
The Fish Store says No, I need MORE.
<<Without more information/detail re your system and its proposed inhabitants, I
must agree…and I certainly do where the Anemone is concerned>>
I.e. 10K etc and recommend the Coralife compacts.
<<You don’t “need” 10K bulbs; these are usually suggested because they provide a
“balance” between what is suitable for/useable to the photosynthetic organisms
and what is pleasing to the human eye. In fact, if you like or prefer a lower
Kelvin temperature (e.g. – 5500K – 6500K), these will generally provide a better
output/PAR rating watt-for-watt than the higher Kelvin temperature bulbs. A mix
of 10K and 6.5K bulbs provides far more intensity, as well as light in the more
“useful” wavelengths, than a mix of 10K and Actinic bulbs>>
I am sure they are great, but do I really need that much light?
<<The answer here likely is, yes…I am doubtful your NO fluorescent bulbs will
support an anemone>>
Especially when a retrofit is $200+ on sale.
<<Unfortunately, the price of lighting suitable for keeping many/most of the
reef-associated photosynthetic organisms often proves to be as much as one-third
the cost of the entire reef system. If you do decide to upgrade, I would like to
recommend T5 fluorescent lighting over the PC fluorescent lighting. Not that the
PCs can’t work, but the T5 is better technology in my opinion, and has greater
bulb selection/allows more flexibility over the PCs. The smaller size of the T5s
will also allow more bulbs to be fitted/placed over any given tank size>>
Please drop me a short note with your ideas.
<<You have my thoughts…do write me back if you wish to discuss further>>
Joan in Seattle
<<Regards, EricR in Columbia>>
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Adequate lighting for an
anemone
Red Sea Max (34 gallons), Enough lighting for an Anemone? - 1/31/08
Hello
<Hello Art, Brenda here>
After 40 years of maintaining freshwater aquariums I finally took the
"plunge" and decided to try saltwater. The impetus behind this decision
was the introduction of the "plug and play" self-contained Red Sea Max.
I have had this unit for three weeks and am quite pleased with it, so
far. In an effort to get up to speed, I read Fenner's book and found it
superb. I have also been on your site many times and found it to be
both enjoyable and quite instructive.
<Good to hear!>
Yes my RSM tank (34 gals, including a 5 gal filtration area) currently
has 40 lbs. of live rock and 80 lbs. (4 inches) of substrate. The unit
has 2 55watt T5 power compacts including 10k actinic lighting (4 watts
per gallon). Like many others, I have always been intrigued by the
symbiotic relationship between clown fish and anemones and would want to
include an anemone in the tank, sometime in the near future. Everything
I read "seems" to suggest or at least is not clear to me, that this
lighting is not adequate for an anemone. The Red Sea literature suggests
otherwise. Therefore, I decided to ask the experts directly. Is this
lighting adequate for an anemone (E. quadricolor perhaps)? Thank you.
Keep up the great work. Art
<This lighting is at best border line. The watt per gallon rule is not a
good rule of thumb to go by. This tank is nearly 20” deep. An anemone
would have to remain high in the tank, and may need extra feedings to
supplement the lack of lighting. Also this T-5 lighting does not have
individual reflectors. Without individual reflectors, this lighting is
comparable to PC. I personally would not keep an anemone in this tank.
Your tank also needs to be an established environment before adding an
anemone. This takes 6 months to a year. Brenda>
Re: Red Sea Max (34
gallons), Enough lighting for an Anemone? - 1/31/08
Hi Brenda,
<Good morning Art!>
Thank you for your immediate response.
<You are quite welcome!>
You confirmed what I feared was the case. Do you folks have an opinion
as to this product (considering its small size) providing a viable
environment for a mini reef? Assuming, of course, that one chooses the
appropriate corals and invertebrates and maintains a light fish load.
<I do not have any personal experience with this product. However,
looking at the specs I would say it is an average, possibly above
average, all in one system. My main concern would be as to how well the
skimmer produces. I do suggest keeping easier corals. Soft corals will
do fine here. Mushrooms, Leather corals, Palys, Xenia, Kenya Tree, and
Anthelia, to name a few will work here and still give you a beautiful
display. These soft corals have also been known to be a substitute host
for clownfish. So you may still be able to get your symbiotic
relationship that you were hoping for.>
I must say that the "crew" is terrific and you all make this hobby so
much more enjoyable and understandable.
<Thank you! It is always nice to hear positive feedback!>
I will make every effort to support the site.
<Great!>
Thanks again.
Art
<You’re welcome and good luck to you! Brenda> |
Need Lighting Help 01/23/2008
Hello,
<<Hello, Andrew here>>
I have had a 55 gallon FOWLR tank for over 10 yrs now and want to upgrade my
lighting system. I have nothing fancy right now, but was
thinking of switching to T5's. I have always wanted an anemone and know they
would probably prefer MH's, but I just can't afford them.
<<even though MH are the best lighting you can provide, T5 with individual
reflectors and good wattage can suffice (depending on what anemone you want to
house), all be it, not the best route>>
I could really use your help on what direction to look at for a new system,
number of bulbs, wattage, etc. Thanks for your help!
<<<Simplest answer is get the best you can buy for your budget. You will want a
good spread of tubes, preferably full length and full front to back to give
great lighting coverage through-out the aquarium. Aim in the region of 250w or
more preferably. You will also want to aim to keep a nem high up in the
aquarium, say top 9 - 10 inches of the tank>>
Tiffany
<<Thanks for the questions, A Nixon>> Sick Sebae Anemone, Not
enough lighting. – 12/2/07
Dear Crew,
<Hello Sami, Brenda here>
I read a lot of your answers regarding anemones and the Sebae anemone in
particular, but still have 2 questions regarding my Sebae that I got 2 days ago.
It would be great if you could comment. The first is whether or not I can touch
the anemone and turn it around (it has been upside down since noon today). I
read somewhere that this was a very bad position, as its tentacles cannot
breathe this way. But I also read that one should leave the anemone alone as
much as possible. So, should I turn it around (if so, with my hands and
gloves??). By the way, it is white (and I know I have to get it brown and
healthy now). I fed it mysis shrimp which were sticking on its tentacles and it
did eat. I intend to get Selcon also.
<It sounds like you have a very sick anemone. How was it acclimated? You can try
turning it over, but it is likely it will just turn it self over again. I would
definitely wear gloves.>
The second question concerns my lights: I have a 40 gallon breeder tank, so it's
not too deep (< 18"). I have the Coralife Lunar Aqualights (2x96 watts I think).
I have the white ones on from 12:00 to 6pm and the actinic on from 7AM to 8PM,
the lunar lights from 8PM to 7AM. Is this ok?
<2x96 watts of PC lighting is not enough for this creature.>
FYI, I have 70lbs LR, a wet-dry trickle filter, an Aqua C protein skimmer. I
have two false clowns, a royal Gramma, a lawnmower blenny and snails/hermit
crabs/1 emerald crab, 2 conch snails. I have 2 mushrooms. The tank is 4 months
old.
<A 4 month old tank is not old enough. Anemones need established environments, 6
months to one year.>
Salinity: 1.025
<1.026 is better.>
temp: 78
Calcium: 420
Alkalinity: 4
<I’m not sure what method you are using for testing. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/alkalinity.htm >
Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate: 0
Magnesium: 1200.
<I would aim for the 1300 – 1500 range.>
Thank you guys so much!
Regards, Sami
<You’re welcome! Brenda>
Re: Sick Sebae Anemone, Not
enough lighting. – 12/4/07
Thank you for your comments below, Brenda.
<You’re Welcome!>
I turned the anemone around and fed it (it did eat, at least)... I will try and
nurture it back to health. Hopefully it works..
How much lighting would be needed in your view? (I read that 4 watt per gallon,
so in my case 160 watt should be sufficient, and thus thought that 2x96 watt was
all right)...?
<This is only a rule of thumb, and not a good one in my opinion. You also have
to consider that 96 of the watts that you have are actinic which are more
cosmetic than beneficial compared to the daylight bulb. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/lighting/actinicfaqs.htm and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/heteraccrispa.htm If
it were me, I would go with a 2x175W watt metal halide or a 6x39W T-5 setup with
individual reflectors.>
Kind regards, Samira
<Good luck to you! Brenda>
Lighting Upgrade For A 25”
Deep Anemone Tank – 12/03/07
Great Morning to you all!
<<Hiya Jane... Or should I call you “double-oh?” [grin]>>
I am a WWM junkie--so yes, I am current on reading and research.
<<Ah well...junkie or not...there’s always something bearing research/worth
reading...>>
I am upgrading a 2 year old 30g 2 fish, excessive live rock, bubble coral, 2
no longer small bubble tip anemone, 4 mushroom, 1 tree coral, small clean up
crew-- aquarium w/130 watts pc dual actinic/dual 10,000 k.
<<Mmm, indeed... As a WWM “junkie” I’m sure you know our general take on mixing
motile and sessile invertebrates>>
Can you tell me what the acronym for that is? Kidding.
<<Hee-hee! I think it is called T-R-O-U-B-L-E >>
(side note my bta have doubled in size and bubble coral is right at 12" in
full extension--forcing the upgrade)
<<Yikes...no kidding!>>
What I have recently purchased is Remora-Pro w/Mag-3, Rena Filstar xP2,
<<I hope the canister filter is for “chemical” filtration and will be serviced
regularly>>
couple of Zoo-Med 270 gph Power Sweeps on a 56g tank.
<<Hmm...is better...but really, you need a tank twice this size considering you
are housing a pair of BTAs...and that large Bubble Coral. Do also consider
setting up the old 30g tank as a sump or refugium for this new tank>>
This is the part where I cheesed out on research: the new tank dimensions are
30lx18wx25h. Length is an issue in relation to available watts on 30"
light fixtures. OOPS! Not finding anything over 150w in a 30" ready made.
<<I see...you must be referring to fluorescent fixtures. And I agree...not
likely to find enough “punch” for your present livestock>>
I am not an electrician, so building a fixture is out of the question.
<<You don’t have much room to work with anyway...time to consider a
“single-point” light source>>
Considering MH at this point due to depth/height of tank.
<<Ah...very good>>
Amazing how "blast, that's a great price on the tank/stand combo" turns into
"now I know why."
<<Yep...lighting can often equal a third or more of the total expense>>
Two options-- SunPod HQI 30" 250w OR Hamilton pendant 400w HQI (app 16" wide).
Is the Hamilton overkill?
<<You could probably get by with less (250w), but given the depth of the tank
and the presence of the anemones...not really overkill in my
opinion...especially if you are leaning toward the higher Kelvin temperatures.
And I do think the Hamilton fixture to be the better choice re
quality/reliability>>
And will the light disperse throughout the tank given the 16" length of the
light fixture in relation to tank dimensions?
<<Much depends on the design of the reflector. The general rule-of-thumb is to
figure one MH bulb for every two feet of tank length (or width, as the case may
be). In other words, one MH fixture for a 2-foot tank, two MH fixtures for a
4-foot tank, etc.. But, given that this fixture could be positioned a good
12-inches above the water’s surface, you should get adequate spread on this 30”
long tank...especially if you keep the most-light demanding organisms away from
the perimeter>>
I do intend to "grow" in this hobby- i.e. acquiring and propagating coral.
Suggestions greatly appreciated in regards to lighting--or anything else
I have overlooked.
<<As stated, I do think you could get by with a 250w pendant fixture. I would
recommend the LumenMax 3 DE HQI pendant
(http://oceanencounter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=OE&Product_Code=SSL32DHP&Category_Code=PEN).
This is an excellent reflector that will maximize the output of the 250w bulb.
Do note that this is just the fixture...a separate ballast and bulb would still
need to be purchased (my vote goes to the IceCap electronic ballast paired with
a Ushio 10000K DE bulb). Initial cost will be more than the Hamilton product.
But you will be getting a better reflector design, a more energy efficient and
cooler running ballast, and a better bulb...in my humble opinion. As well as
savings on continued energy costs with the 250w vs. 400w fixture>>
Peace, polyps and plankton,
Jane (in search of a 12 step program for my marine addiction) Bond
<<Shaken, not stirred... Eric Russell>>
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Anemone Lighting 11/23/07
I could use some help please. I am running a fish store in Florida and am
currently not selling anemones due to a lack of lights on my invert system and a
lack of interest in keeping them in my reef tanks for fear of them harming
corals (and fear of mixing the anemones).
<All valid concerns.>
I wish to light a section of my invert system to keep them for sale, and wish to
give my customers the best info I can (what better place to find it than here?).
So.... do I just flat out recommend (and use) HQI for every species? Is HQI
really just as good as halide? Is PC or T5 a choice if they use A LOT? lol.
<They will generally require fairly intense lighting. Metal halide would be my
personal choice, but PC, T5 and VHO can work in appropriate intensities. HQI is
just as good (some argue better) as regular mogul base halides.>
Any help you can give me to be able to sell anemones to those who wish to keep
them without being "one of those stores" that just sell anything to anyone to
make a buck (we like for our customers to keep their livestock ALIVE, the money
may help pay the bills, but deaths hurt the conscience).
<Be aware as you stated that mixing anemones, even in a sale tank, is not the
best thing to do. Also, the average aquarist may not be able to care for many
anemones commonly offered for sale. For more information on your particular
concerns please read through the anemone FAQ’s. Your care for the livestock
involved is very much appreciated. Thank you, Scott V.>
Re: Anemone Lighting
11/25/07
Thanks for the quick reply for my customers and I!
<You’re welcome.>
When you say "appropriate intensities" for all things not HQI, are we
talking a certain watts per gallon? I know I have a lot of specific
questions, but I wouldn't be an ethical fish store without making sure I
gave out all the best info to the consumer.
<First of all, your concern for doing the right thing is greatly
appreciated. I feel that the standard halides are every bit as good as
HQI, it is just that some feel that HQI has a slight edge on mogul base.
I would not keep an anemone under anything less than a halide, but
fluorescents can work. As far as intensities for the different types of
fluorescents it is hard to give a general rule. It just depends on the
tank, placement and type of anemone. A watts per gallon rule by is by no
means rock solid, but it can provide guidelines (minimum 5 watts per
gallon). Keep in mind that in smaller systems this rule will still not
provide the intensity required. That being said there are certain
anemones that should only be kept with metal halide. I would simply
stick with Entacmaea quadricolor (BTA). Good luck, Scott V.>
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Anemone Lighting help! Using
WWM 11/21/07
I recently purchased a very healthy looking Condylactis Anemone from my
local fish store. When I got home, I realized that my lighting was insufficient.
I have fairly bright lights, but as I received the aquarium, hood and all, for
free, I didn't think anything of it other than the fact that it all worked.
Now, the anemone is doing fine in my tank now (a 40 gallon tank with 20 pounds
of live rock, 2 Ocellaris clowns, a small yellow tang, 5 turbo snails, 7 small
hermits, and a camel shrimp.) but I was wondering if I could have a makeshift
setup for a little stronger light.
<Maybe>
My grandmother, an avid gardener, has a few lamps that she doesn't use any more
that were formerly kept in a greenhouse during the winter. Her plants all did
wonderful under it, and I was wondering if an anemone would do the same.
<Possibly... depends on the light quality, intensity... Do be careful with the
fixture around saltwater... and make sure this unit is plugged in/through a
GFCI...>
I will be moving to a 100 gallon tank that I am also receiving for free at the
beginning of next year, and I will purchase a light that is sufficient at that
time.
However, until mid January or so, what should I do to keep my anemone thriving?
<Read... Here: http://wetwebmedia.com/condyanemones.htm
and the linked files above... and re the fish species you list... the Yellow
Tang needs more room... and re the use of Ground Fault Circuit Interruptors...
Bob Fenner>
Another Soul Confused By The Light
Lighting For Heteractis Crispa/Malu 10/18/07
Thank you for the bounty of information that you provide and the selfless
amount of time you give that makes this site possible.
<You're welcome.>
I have a 95 gallon Wave Tank (L 48 x W 25 x H 24)
My current lighting is by 2 65W CF 10000K and 2 65W CF True Actinic 03 Blue
I would like to attempt to keep Heteractis malu or Heteractis crispa Anemones.
<A very difficult anemone to keep/acclimate.>
If I upgrade my lights to 2X150W MH Lamp + T5 HO Lamps 2x54w Actinic 460nm 2x54w
Actinic 420nm would that be enough light for them?
<Kathy, I think it would be borderline for this anemone as they do require
intense lighting. Do read here and linked files above, make absolutely sure you
want to try keeping one.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/heteraccrispa.htm>
Thanking you in advance,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Kat
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Making Friends With
His Anemone! Anemones lighting and
positioning
8/13/07
My anemone, Medusa, was seemingly doing well and perhaps he still is
but he has recently moved to the top of the tank which is obviously
closer to the lighting but also closer to the water flow from the
Penguin filter.
<When anemones move, they are generally telling us that something is not
right for them in their present position. Typically, this is related to
water flow and/or lighting.>
When he was in the lower position, he looked happy
and he was eating. Should I be concerned that he has moved so close to
the top? What do you think this movement means? Is he not getting enough
food? Light?
<As you suspect, this is usually a response to some parameter being not
to the anemone's liking. Observe the anemone's behavior in it's new
position. In particular, pay close attention to the animal's orientation
to the lighting and flow. Is it closing up? Is the animal trying to
orient itself into the flow, or away from it? Is the animal feeding, has
color changed, etc?>
2nd subject: Algae. I recently bought the Nova Extreme fixture and ever
since I have had an awful time with red algae on my rocks. I've tried to
limit the lighting time but that still hasn't solved the problem. Do I
need to increase the water changes?
<Typically, algae blooms are a function of nutrients in conjunction with
lighting. Increased lighting intensity and/or longer photoperiods alone
do not cause such blooms. Be sure take into consideration the entire
picture. Could your source water be high in a nutrient that algae
favors? If so, the increased lighting could result in such a bloom. If
you're using RO/DI water, do check the membranes/prefilters to assure
that they are not saturated. If they are, of course, replacement would
make a big difference. Water changes with properly conditioned water are
never a bad idea, of course, so do keep them up. Frequent, consistent
small (like 10% of system capacity) water changes are never a bad idea.>
Happily, my water parameters are all good. Thanks in advance.
My tank:
Blue Regal Tang
Yellow Tang
Coral Beauty Dwarf Angel
Tricolor Fairy Wrasse
Royal Gramma
Mandarin Dragonet
Scissortail Dartfish
Redfire Shrimp
Green Fluorescent Mushrooms
Sand Sifting Sea Star
Snails: Bumble Bee, Super Tongan Nassarius, Mexican Turbo, Zebra Turbo
Lots of rock, decorative and live
Equipment
55 gallon, 48x12x18
Penguin BioWheel 350
SeaClone 100 Skimmer
Nova Extreme T-5 Fixtures w/Lunar Lights (48" - 216 watts) 2 SlimPaq
460nm Actinic and 2-10000°K T-5 HO lamps
18 watt turbo twist UV sterilizer
<If it were me- I'd keep up the water changes, observe the anemone
continuously, and be prepared to take action, if necessary for the
anemone. Do review those water parameters regularly (particularly
phosphate, silicate, and nitrate)...these parameters can give you some
clues about what may be causing the algae bloom. Continued success to
you! Regards, Scott F.> |
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Anemone Lighting 8/8/07
Hello Crew,
<Hi>
I am in the process of getting a tank that is 72x24x30. The plan is getting
either a LTA or Carpet anemone species tank and need to know the thoughts on
lighting such a deep aquarium. Either I was thinking of T5 lighting which I
could find 4 4x36 fixtures having 39 watt bulbs each, or a Metal Halide fixture
that has 3 150 watt or 250 watt bulbs which is 72 inches. I'd like to go the T5
route due to cost and heat issues but didn't know what type of lighting for a
deep tank like this. My LFS says go with T5's but I'm always concerned with
people not having correct knowledge.
<Yes, your LFS is wrong. For a tank 24" deep, metal halide lighting will be
needed, and I would go with the 250 watt system. Do read here on anemones, know
what you are getting into.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm>
Thank you for your time and effort.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Lighting, Anem. sys...
7/28/07
Hi WWM crew.
<Hello Ted>
First off I must say I love your site even if the amount of information can
sometimes be daunting. I have learned a great deal, even if some of it was a
little late.
<Better late than never.>
I have a 35 gal. aquarium that has been set up for about three months now
and it has been doing fine so far on very inadequate lighting. There is
about 20 lbs. of live rock, a few blue/green chromis and a couple of false
percula clowns, an assortment of hermits and snails, a blood cleaner shrimp
and an anemone (if I knew then what I know now). The anemone is Macrodactyla
Doreensis as far as I can tell, and had I been more knowledgeable I would
have waited much longer before adding such a sensitive inhabitant even
though he is very attractive and interesting. All the chemistry is good as
per suggestions from WWM and all inhabitants seem to be doing just fine,
eating, moving and interacting just as I would hope and expect.
<Ted, even under the best conditions, anemones usually won't last more than
a year. Your tank is much too small for keeping anemones for any length of
time.>
Now to the real question I set up the aquarium with 20 watts of fluorescent
lighting as I was told this would be sufficient for now.
<Ha, who told you that baloney.>
I have since learned that this probably not correct
<Not probably, is so.>
so I purchased a 2 x 96 W power compact fixture for the aquarium, 1 -
12,000K and 1 - actinic. I am now wondering how to transition from 20 W on a
12 hour schedule to 192 W and on what schedule? Should I simply remove the
20 W and start with the new light on a shorter day and build up?
<Yes.>
Or should I go with 12 hours of light with some of those hours at 20 W and
some at 192 W slowly moving toward all 192 W and no 20 W? Perhaps a mix of
these would be best?
<I'd just stay with the PC system.>
I know that the new light level is going to be a shock to the inhabitants
but I want to minimize it as much as possible. I have also seen where the
actinic is on for longer than the daylight lamp, is this necessary,
recommended, or just a little better way to do things?
<Mostly aesthetic reasons...a softer light to start and end with. I like to
set my timer up so the lights never go off or on in a darkened room.>
Thank you for your time and the abundance of information,
<Do read here and linked files above. Learn their requirements/needs.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
James (Salty Dog)>
Ted
Lighting, SW, upgrade... reef/anemone...
6/13/07
Hello wonderful crew!
<Don>
I currently have 2 Condy's and have a PC 2 96w with one half true actinic. I
also have a double strip light that came with my 54 corner.
41Lx28Wx23H. I have read all the FAQ's I could possibly find. So should I
change out the actinic for another bulb and what amount of Kelvin should it
be 10 K?
<I would... this would be fine... down to about 6,500 K>
Should I then put actinic bulbs into the double strip light with actinic or
18000K or smaller K bulbs.
<The latter IMO, and smaller... Unless you prefer looks over function of the
higher incandescence...>
They would be 20 watt bulbs each in the strip. Also I will be upgrading when
the $ comes in of course. The lighting I looked at 2X150W MH Lamp 2x39w
Actinic 460nm2x39w Actinic 420nm 9 blue LEDs/9 white LEDs or 2X250W MH Lamp
2x39w Actinic 460nm2x39w Actinic 420nm 9 blue LEDs/9 white LEDs?
<The former would be my choice... the latter are too hot, bright...>
And let's play pretend that I plan on keeping other anemone's that require
the most demanding lighting.
Obviously never mix species in the same tank. Or would you recommend another
light or is 2x250 MH too much for a 54?
<Not until you know much better what you're doing... Too much else that has
to be accounted, adjusted for...>
Oh yea one more thing I battled ich and had to unfortunately put my tomato
clown back in the main tank due to water supply went bad and got it fixed
only after 2 weeks of treatment/main tank fallow and it's been a week and a
half later and no signs of ich or scratching. Of course I put the heat to 90
for a couple days and all my inverts survived and I didn't mean to put it
that high but all turned out ok. So the question is I have now 4 Chromis in
my new quarantine tank and planned on putting them in the main tank after
their nice 4 week vacation but how long does one wait to see if ich comes
back?
<Mmm, about this long... Really... the Clown may have induced/developed
immunity... all, any new fish/es may contract...>
(I have read all FAQ's and realize it could take several months) but still
wanted your opinion on the matter. I would hate to take the clown out and
put him in the q tank with Chromis and start formalining them all. Thank you
very much for your time and endless efforts to help us all. Please be
patient with all of us as we love your answer's/assurance.
Don V.
<I am hoping... and think you may be too... that the Crypt is "all gone"...
Bob Fenner>
Ballast Died 911, anem. hlth. 4/25/07
Hi crew,
I hope everyone is doing well. I have a bit of an emergency and I am hoping that
someone may be able to lend me their expertise. Today, 04/24/2007, my Icecap 660
ballast bit the dust. I have rewired everything changed the fuse all to no
avail. I have ordered a new ballast and, since I needed them, four new 110W watt
VHO bulbs. I ordered two URI Aqua sun bulbs and two Actinic 03 bulbs. I have a
sebae anemone that I have kept now for approximately three years. I have the
ballast and the bulbs ordered next day air, but since I missed the 1 PM cutoff
they will likely no arrive until Thursday, 04/26/2007. What can I do for my
anemone in the mean time?
<Mmm, a light directed toward it from the outside? Likely this brief time in the
"dark" will not be a problem>
When I arrived home this afternoon the anemone was rolled into itself is the
best that I can describe what I saw. I put a table lamp (shade removed) with a
25W standard fluorescent plant bulb in it as close to the glass as possible
where the anemone presides in the aquarium. I seriously doubt this is doing any
good but I really don't want to lose this animal that I have worked so hard to
help thrive in captivity. Your expedited response would be greatly appreciated
as I am nearly at wits end about how to help it get through this safely. I am
also concerned about the sole mushroom anemone in the aquarium as it required
light to thrive as well. The only other inhabitants of the aquarium are a maroon
clown fish, a yellow tail blue damsel, a lawnmower blenny, a skunk cleaner
shrimp, a long spine sea urchin, a pencil urchin and various hermits and
snails. Sincerest
thanks, Michael
Burroughs
<There are times in the wild when there is little sunshine for days on end (big
storms)... I would not be over-wrought here. If these animals are in good shape,
they'll be fine. Bob Fenner>
Lighting Needs for Anemone Tank; Kilowatts? – 04/16/07
Thanks for all your help with my anemone and thanks heaps for the site you
gave me.
<Thank you for the compliments.>
It really helped me understand what my anemone was going through.
<Awesome.>
I have read through and searched article on lighting but it is all so confusing
as I don't understand fully of what all the jumbo language is.
<Well that's what I'm here for, clarification.>
I have a 5ft x 2ft x 2ft tank with only a few bits of live rock, about 2 inches
of shell grit (live sand) on the bottom, it is mainly a fish only tank and also
houses a bubble tip anemone and a Catalaphyllia.
<Well with these critters you in essence have a reef tank, the anemone
especially is a very particular critter, as far what it likes and doesn't like.>
At the moment there isn't sufficient lighting and I was wondering what the
requirements for this type of tank is?
<Mmm for a tank housing anemones of this size you could go for a bank of T-5
High Output fluorescents or even a few Metal Halide pendants. Either one could
potentially be appropriate.>
E.g.. How many KW is sufficient enough
<KW? As in kilowatt? As in equals 1000 watts? I wouldn't go by this measurement
to pick your next lighting system. Perhaps you are referring to the watts rule
or the watts per gallon quote as I call it, neither are a good way to pin-point
how much light you need. In aquariums quaint past it may have been a good
measure of lighting amount but other than that it's a pretty dated and
inefficient manor when it comes to measuring the amount of light for your
photosynthetic animals. With so many different types of lighting and the
arrangements they are put in; types of lighting, brand of bulb, brand of
ballast, kelvin temperature of the bulb, brand of reflector, reflector shape and
material the reflector is made up of....there just too many variables to make
the WPG rule reliable. What I recommend is measuring the P.A.R. rating or the
amount of lumens the lighting produces.>
at the moment I am only running a marine Glo light and 2x power Glo lights.
<You do need more/different lighting to meet the animals needs.>
All 3 are only 3ft long but. I am just using what I have around until I know the
best way to light up my tank.
Thanks
<Welcome, AJ.>
Anemones and Lighting - 3/12/07
Hello,
<Hello, Brandon here.>
Can you tell me if this bulb (follow link) would be good to use for anemones,
Sebae or Rose and which anemone would be better to keep.
<Firstly, no this bulb will not be even remotely adequate. Anemones need much
more light. I would suggest reading up on lighting and different types of
lighting here,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm Of the two anemones that you
have listed, I would say that the E. quadricolor is the better selection, this
is more of a “beginner“ anemone. I still would suggest much more research on
your part before you select an anemone for purchase. Here is a good place to
start,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm >
Also can you mix tomato clowns with other clowns, I've heard they are some what
aggressive and territorial.
<As a general rule of thumb you cannot mix clown fish. They tend to get very
territorial, and this can lead to deaths. There was a point in time that I had
no choice but to keep four Premnas biaculeatus together in a 75 gallon
tank. This did not go very well. It is possible to keep juveniles together as
long as they are juveniles. It would be extremely helpful to know what size
volume of water we are talking about housing your prospective purchases in.>
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-in-REEF-SUN-ZOO-MED-AQUARIUM-LIGHT-50-50-close-out_W0QQitemZ220089033820QQcategoryZ46314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Thanks,
<You are welcome. Brandon.>
Josh
Hi, I read about what type of lighting the anemones need, but how much do
they require as in hours of light? - 02/21/07
Thanks for your help!
Leigh
<Hey Leigh, JustinN with you today. Anemones need a minimum of 8 hours of light
a day, in my opinion. A tropic time setting would be more appropriate here,
being closer to 12 hours a day. Hope this helps! -JustinN>
Sebae Anemone, Research Idea "The Ripple Effect" MH Shimmer 2/5/07
Hello guys,
<Hi Brandon, Mich again.>
I know that this is the second time that I have written today, but I was reading
up on allelopathy at your site when I came across an extensive amount of
information on anemones. I have had a very "happy" Sebae Anemone (Heteractis
crispa) for quite a while now. I read a reply that stated that MH lighting was
preferred for them. I would like to share a bit of information with you all. I
was running a 55 gallon tank with three four foot 110 watt 10k daylight, and one
four foot 100 watt actinic 03 on an Icecap 660 ballast. This translates to 440
watts of light or eight watts per gallon. The H. crispa was meh ooookaaayy, but
I could tell that he was not going to make it past oh say a year at the very
best. I bought a 75 gallon from a person that thought that caring for his fish
was too much work and not a labor of love. Oh well his loss right?
<Right!>
So in the course of placing it I had a bright idea. Since the tank was bigger,
I would transfer my micro reef to it, and create a somewhat bigger micro
reef. I moved my lights, and all of my organisms. Here is where it gets
interesting. Somewhere in the course of all of this some errant water escaped
the tank. Anyone see where this is going? It (un-beknownst to me) had dribbled
down a cord. A cord that was connected to the ballast. The ballast that was
not waterproof. I don't know if any of you believe in God, but I do now. I
turned the lights on, and they did not come on. So in one of my finest aquatic
genius moments, I touched the ballast.
<Yikes!!!>
I think that I am lucky I am not dead.
<Glad you're OK.>
Excuse the French, but there is really no other way to say it, I got the holy
h-e-double hockey sticks shocked out of me.
<I'm envisioning your hair going from straight to curly!>
I am kind of glad that I did though.
<Really?>
This was on a Monday (My Sunday), Tuesday morning I was in the LFS buying a MH
retrofit that I had seen for $899 USD with a 20% discount. Like I said labor of
love.
<Cha-ching!>
I set it up, hooked up all the ballasts, and turned it on (electrocution free, I
put the ballasts on the outside this time and drilled some holes, it's ugly but
safer.)
<Safety is the more important issue.>
The MH system has less light wattage, but there is a "ripple
effect". EVERYTHING, fish and all immediately responded. The H. crispa stopped
moving and perked up immediately. I think that I have a pretty hardy one (it
was "thriving", according to them, under PC at the LFS), but I am willing to bet
anyone a million dollars that it is not really benefiting from the MH itself,
and more from the "ripple effect". I have been diving off of the coast of
Belize, and this looks more natural. Perhaps this is one of the keys?
<Perhaps.>
Everything that I have read suggests that most Anemone species thrive under
appropriate MH and die off rather quickly under anything else. Yes I think that
a year is quickly for an immortal.
<?>
I hope that this information is useful, and that it will further someone's
research.
<Thank you for sharing! An interesting observation.>
Thank you all for the wonderful work that you do,
<Welcome! -Mich>
Brandon R. Foster
Re: Nitrite & Anemone 1/29/07, BTA sys./lambda
Dear Mr. Fenner/James
Thanks for the Article on Anemones.
<You're welcome>
One thing to clarify though, I use 4 Osram Compact Florescent Lamps: CFL
(Daylight) each with 120W/6500K and the CRI: 85 therefore altogether they
produce 480W of daylight. My tank is an 80G tank (43L x 18W x 24H). Please let
me know whether the lighting will be adequate for the Quadricolor Anemone.
<With your 24" tank depth, it will be borderline unless the anemone decides to
move to the upper one third of the tank.>
Also let me know how to measure whether a bulb is full spectrum, broad spectrum
or wide spectrum. It is by the CRI value?
<CRI is Color Rendering Index. An index number of 100 would most duplicate the
sun's spectrum at high noon. Keep in mind that light intensity is very
important here in regards to keeping photosynthetic animals such as the
Quadricolor.>
Thanks for your support,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Best regards,
Akila
Re: Nitrite & Anemone/BTA Systems 1/30/07
Dear Mr. Fenner/James
Thanks for your advice.
<You're welcome.>
Please let me know what you can recommend for my tank. I intend to use Compact
Florescent Lamps as they are energy efficient. Do you think I should increase
the number of 120W/6500k/85CRI bulbs to support species like anemone. I already
have 4 bulbs so should I increase it up to 7 or 8?
<I believe two more additional tubes of the same wattage should do the job
here. I would go with 10K lamps rather than the 6.5K. As to efficiency of the
compacts, yes, they are efficient, but you have to keep in mind that you will be
running a total of 720 watts to do the job three 150 watt HQI's could do, also
resulting in less heat above the tank and more light penetration into the
water. James (Salty Dog)>
Best regards,
Akila
Lighting/Anemone Systems 11/16/06
I have a rose bubble anemone, and just purchased some new lights. My new
light has a 150 watt metal halide, as well as about 60watts of fluorescent
lighting.
<Should be fine here, depending on your tank depth.>
I started it out at 12 inches above the tank, <tank bottom?> and it seemed to
effect
<affect>
the corals and anemone nicely.
Now I have it at about 9 inches; the anemone is about as low as it can get, and
is not looking awesome.
Should I move the light down, or up, or might something else be wrong; my water
parameters and temperature are pretty much right on.
<Depending on the length of your photoperiod, you might want to go with a lower
photoperiod and gradually increase it. A good current in the tank also
benefits anemones, helps to clean them of their waste. Depending on which
corals you have, you may also have a little allelopathy going on here.
Do read here and linked files above for more info. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
Thanks!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Best Regards,
Holland
Lighting/Anemone Systems 11/18/06
<Holland, in future queries, do not inject your comments into the previous
query, just reply to it. Makes it a little tougher to sort/place, when two
queries are integrated into one.>
I have a rose bubble anemone, and just purchased some new lights.
My new light has a 150 watt metal halide, as well as about 60watts of
fluorescent lighting.
<Should be fine here, depending on your tank depth.> (tank is 36" deep)
<<With this depth, you will definitely have to go with HQI/MH lighting.>>
I started it out at 12 inches above the tank, <tank bottom?> (from the tank top)
and it seemed to effect
<affect>
the corals and anemone nicely.
Now I have it at about 9 inches; the anemone is about as low as it can get, and
is not looking awesome.
Should I move the light down, or up, or might something else be wrong; my water
parameters and temperature are pretty much right on.
<Depending on the length of your photoperiod, you might want to go with a lower
photoperiod and gradually increase it. A good current in the tank also benefits
anemones, helps to clean them of their waste. Depending on which corals
you have, you may also have a little allelopathy going on here. (what is
allelopathy?)
<<In short, it is chemical aggression that takes place among the corals.
Some corals are more potent than others in this regard.>>
Do read here and linked files above for more info.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
Thanks!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Best Regards,
Holland
Anemone Lighting 10/14/06
WWM Crew how goes it.
<Going OK.>
Long time reader FQAer. I have a 260 watt capable PC light fixture on a standard
AGA 55 gal tank currently running 130w 50/50 on FOWLR. I got 75lbs LR and LS
(3"+) I want to house anemones and a few softies what would be the best combo of
bulbs for this fixture?
<Really not recommended to mix anemones and corals, especially in a small
tank. As for lighting, will all depend on which type anemones you wish to keep.
A Bubble Tipped would be one that would do OK under 260 watts of PC lighting.
Read here and linked files above. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm>
What should I replace my Fluval 404 with? Since canister filters are not good
for reef system;
<Misconception here in my opinion. I use a canister filter with no problems at
all. The problem that lies with the canister filters is in not being cleaned
weekly and allowing the detritus to turn into dissolved nutrients.>
also plan on having a very light bio load 1 goby, 2 clowns, 1 yellow tang,
1 blenny,
<Not a "very light bio load" for a 55 gallon tank. Will soon be too small for
the tang.>
a 10 gal sump with ASM G-1 or G-2 skimmer coming soon, don't know which
one. What are you thoughts.
<A good skimmer, I'd get the model that would handle a larger tank. Most folks
upgrade to larger tanks, and will be one less expense if you don't have to buy
another skimmer.>
I am just looking for some expert opinions and advice thanks!!!!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Anemone Lighting 10/16/06
Thanks for the reply Salty Dog, well I planned on getting one bubble tip or
one sebae for the clowns and have you heard of sewing them to rocks for
placement?
<Not in my lifetime.>
My friend that propagates corals said that's what he heard to do. Well If I
can't have them I can't have them. What soft coral do well in a smaller system
with PC lighting?
<Again, how much PC lighting?>
With the Canister you say take it apart and clean once a week rinsing everything
with (tap water)?
<Mainly removing the old filter media and replacing/cleaning with new.>
I also have a Marineland 200 bio wheel on the tank I know its only rated for 50
gal but I have the 404 also, I just thought the bio wheel would help and it
has. Do you think that 10k or 6700 day light for soft corals?
<I'd go with the 10K.>
I have read so many different things and been told sooo many opposing
opinions. What I want is a clean cut, you can have this and not this, and you
need this on your tank set up.
<All this info available on the Wet Web Media, do learn to use and learn. I
will start you off with a couple of links. Do read linked files above, also. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marineSetUp.htm
and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/soft.htm>
Also Just want to know what the best Anemones are for a 55 with PC
lighting. For the Maroon and gold stripe clowns, I was really just thinking of
some shroom's and Ricordea but what you guys say goes, I am tired of the LFS's
all saying something different and opposite. THANKS! Again
Sorry about all the jabbering,
? 1: Best anemone(s) for 55 with 260w pc fixture (with which combo of bulbs)
<Would go with a Bubble Tip here.>
? 2: Best softies for 55 with 260w pc fixture (with which combo of bulbs)
<Do search/read, all this info is on the WWW, keyword, lighting.>
I will decide which one I will go with just have to weigh the options, I
sincerely appreciate the help You aquarist are AWESOME!
<Jacob, in future queries, do reply to the original so we know what was talked
about. We get hundreds of queries weekly and cannot remember verbatim what was
discussed on each particular query. Also do a spelling/grammar check before
sending, so we don't have to do it, and no abbreviations please.
Thank you, James (Salty Dog)>
Re: Anemone Lighting 10/18/06
Sorry about the abbreviations and stuff will try harder next time because I
know you guys volunteer all your time which is just awesome. I was wondering,
soft corals such as polyps, shrooms, and Ricordea, will they all do well under
130w 10k and 130w actinic 03 Power Compact Lighting.
<They should do fine.>
I guess I am just going to get over the fact that anemones in a small system do
not mix. One anemone is not worth all the (soft) corals.
<No, much more pleasing with a tank full of soft corals, and more economical, as
anemones in captive systems have a very short life span.>
I just want to be absolutely certain what will survive, I do not want to start
killing corals and wonder why.
<Do search our site on soft corals. Much to be learned here.>
Thanks A lot Crew, you guys and gals are the best.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Anemone Health And Lighting 9/11/06
Dear Crew
<Greg>
I am relatively new to SW and fish tanks in general but I am giving
it a shot, so far I love the hobby. Right now I have a 20 tall with
2 Top Fin 20 filters and a 20 watt bulb. I know it is not a lot of
lighting but just can't afford to upgrade at the moment. I have 30
lbs of live sand and 30 lbs of live rock. In the tank I have 1 Condy
that has footed nicely but 2 days ago I introduced a LTA (appears
healthy). The LTA has yet to take foot to anything and is just
floating around the tank. I was reading some of your articles and
came across something about an anemone not "footing" because of a
chemical war. So last night I removed my Condy and placed it in a
hospital tank that I have set up. Could the reason that the LTA is
not footing because of the chemical war? The next morning the LTA
has still yet to "foot" to anything. Please help...
The 2nd part of my question is that currently I have 1 Maroon clown
in my tank, but he has yet to take to either my Condy or my LTA. My
LFS said that the clowns rarely take to a Condy, but it should love
the LTA. Is it the just type of my clown that doesn't like anemone's
or have I not giving it enough time with my LTA?
<Oh boy o boy. Your 20 gallon high is much too small for keeping
anemones.
They are sensitive to changes in water parameters which can shift
very quickly in small tanks. Your lighting isn't near enough for
keeping any anemone alive.
They are a photosynthetic animal that requires bright light to
survive. Also keep in mind that in the home aquarium, under proper
conditions, anemones rarely live more than a year. Did the LFS tell
you your tank and lighting are inadequate for anemones, or was he
just interested in making the sale?
Do read here and linked files above, especially lighting. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm>
Thanks dearly,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Greg Lewis
Can gods make tanks that are too small to illuminate Anemones properly?
8/23/06
Hi
<Hello>
My name is Trevor and I was wondering how much lighting I need for a 5
gallon 10 in. high minibow tank. I will have a bulb tipped sea anemone in it.
<Not for long likely...>
I'm pretty sure the 15 watt bulb that comes with it is not enough. Please
respond as soon as possible
<Very hard to keep such a small marine system stable "enough" Trevor...
particularly for animals such as Anemones. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
and the linked files above. Trying to apply sufficient light/ing here will
create heat/temperature vacillations that will... Bob Fenner>
Lighting For Anemone- One Challenge Met! 8/19/06
I bought a Sebae Anemone and thought I had strong enough lighting, but after
reading on your site that people often don't, I figured I should ask. I have
is: 2-150 10,000k Powerpaq Metal Halide Bulbs, 2-130 Dual Actinic 420nm & 460nm
Bulbs. My tank is 90 gallons, and I need to know if I have made a mistake so I
can do what is right for the little guy. Thank you so much for all of your
help.-Emily
<Well, Emily, from the lighting standpoint, I think that you're just fine. The
lighting that you are using will provide enough energy for the anemone to
prosper in this sized aquarium. Now, you need to address the other issues of
water quality, food, and flow, and you'll have a beautiful animal that will
thrive for years! Keep reading, and good luck with the challenge! Regards, Scott
F.>
Lighting Upgrade For A BTA 8/17/06
Crew,
<Scott F. here tonight!>
Some background: I have a 55 gallon (48" long X 18" deep) that has
been setup for about a year and a half now. After researching and reading
through all your FAQs on BTAs, I purchased one about two weeks ago. My current
lighting is 260 watts (4 * 65 with 2 of them daylight and 2 actinic) of PC
bulbs. The BTA seems to be doing well, stayed right in the spot I picked out
for him, eating well, etc. Based on what I've read through your FAQs, 220 watts
of PC lighting is the bare minimum for keeping a BTA in a 55
gallon (found this info in an Anemone Lighting FAQ answered by Steven Pro).
<Yep...really bare minimum for long-term maintenance of these animals, in my
opinion.>
I'm interested in upgrading my lighting without trashing the whole thing, I have
a 48" Outer Orbit fixture. An idea that I was considering is leaving the 2 65
watt actinics in the hood, removing the daylight bulbs and replacing them with
one or two halides retro fitted. Some options would be two 175 watt 10k bulbs
on each end, two 250 watt 10k bulbs, one 175 watt in
the center or one 250 watt in the center. Do you think just one 175 watt or 250
watt in the center would be adequate?
<I'd go with one or two 150 watt double-ended pendants, myself, like Reef Optix
III's.>
If I used just one halide bulb in the center I could leave the PC sockets on the
ends and place shorter length/wattage bulbs on the end (like a 32 watt bulb on
each end). I'd like to upgrade it in some way that will help my BTA to thrive
without replacing the entire lighting system. Thanks in advance for any input
you can give me on this and thank you VERY much for the great info you guys have
compiled on your site.
Here's a link so you can check out how the BTA is looking:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m243/nickterp/clownanem.jpg
Nick
<Thanks, Nick. I think that a simple addition of a halide or wo will do the
trick! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Long Tentacle Anemone and lighting.
7/22/06
Hi guys!
I just bought a purplish green LTA yesterday from my LFS. In there tank it
looked great, so I purchased the LTA and now it doesn't look to hot. it just
lays on its side, this evening I noticed it was turned inside out. As soon as I
fed it some thawed out frozen food (Prime Reef), it became very responsive and
the tentacles inflated and it looked happy for about 5 min then it let go of the
food and just started to close up. I have tested the tank's water, you name it I
tested for it and everything was perfect. the only thing left is maybe the
lighting. My lighting is 1 10k 65w PC and 1 65w Blue Actinic PC for a total
of 130 Watts of lighting. My tank is only a 20
gallon that is 17" tall with 2" of sand then the PC lights are about 2.5 inches
from the top of my take making the LTA only a total of 17.5" away from the
light. is this enough light for this thing? My LFS told me it was but after
reading allot of forums I am not to sure now. what is your opinion on this?
Thank You
Josh
<<Josh: I hate to tell you this; but, you should probably take the anemone
back. Usually most anemones sold as LTA are Macrodactyla doreensis (MD). MD
anemones will only bury their foot in a deep sand bed. Thus, you should
probably have at least 6 inches vs. the 2 inches you have. On top of that, they
can get very large. Mine is about 15 inches across. Your best bet for a
starter anemone would be a Bubble Tip Entacmaea quadricolor clone that has split
in another reefkeeper's tank. They are pretty hardy and you won't be trying to
take care of an anemone that was just pulled out of the ocean. Best of luck,
Roy>>
Lighting issues??? Really just misplaced Anemones
7/6/06
Hi there crew!! I'm new to your pages and find it very helpful.
<Change in number... pages/them>
It has answered a lot of questions
<It/they>
for me but one. what
<Cap.>
type of lighting would work best for me?? I have a 40 gal breeder tank 36x18x16
currently with 45 lbs LR and 60 lbs LS crappy but after mod's (thanks' to you
guys) acceptable sea clone
<Product, capitalized>
1 50 (took me almost a week to tune right) penguin 400 bio wheel
<Dittos>
filter (no fiber media just baskets with matrix by SeaChem
<>
to help keep leaves down) two MaxiJet 400's for current and a homemade 5 gal
refugium (for my mandarin buddy
:o) ). I currently have 4 types of damsels , two Percs , a zebra goby , a
mandarin , a skunk shrimp , a peppermint shrimp , a emerald crab , some turbo
snails , some hermits , some polyps (couple different types) , some buttons ,
a BTA ,and a LTA.
<These anemones are misplaced here>
Everyone has been doing great!! but the two anemones are new to me and I know I
need better lighting for them.
<Actually... they should be moved elsewhere. Pronto>
right now I have three fluorescent 50\50 2 being 18" the other 24". Now my
question is what's better PC or T5??
<For the animals listed, likely the latter>
I have got many mixed answers about this question from LPS
<Talking to Scleractinia?>
and figured I need to find better help. I'm interested in maybe adding a coral
or two but want to make sure I get right lighting so if I do decided to I can.
I already know that the anemones need more light I have had them for about
2 months now and they look good I watch them eat I have even seen them move
around
to different spots in the tank. the LT I have even seen make a home at
the bottom of the tank he's been there for a month now and hasn't moved but
still
eats regally . I feed tank 2-3 times a day morning feeding being frozen
Mysis and frozen rotifers second being marine snow liquid (the fish go nuts for
this
stuff lol) the third but not all the time being super soft sinking pellets
with krill which I crush so its like a powder so power heads blow it around.
I'm almost for got to mention the rotifers sometimes get switched up for frozen
invert food (its green in color and stinks lol). Everyone seems to be very
happy in this little environment I have created but I know they would fair well
with better lighting. please help me make the right choice here so I'm not
just blowing money away. Thanks in advance!! :o) Mark
<Mmm, I'd be moving the anemones, not fooling with the lights. Bob Fenner>
Re: lighting issues??? 7/7/06
Hi there. Thanks for the input. Thing is I really want to keep anemones.
What should I change to keep these guys. If its to remove damsels not a prob.
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm
scroll down to the tray on "Anemones"... read... re their Systems,
Compatibility...>
I got them in the beginning to cycle tank and they have just stayed! thanks for
the answer on the PC or T5 question. PC is what I myself was leaning
towards. Now would 2 96 watt bulbs be enough?
<Please read re... >
Please help me with keeping the anemones the perc. clowns love them. What
would you change. Thanks
for everything!! Mark
<Keep reading! Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Anemone feeding/lighting and Tank Upgrade - 5/11/2006
Lisa (or whomever the aquarist guru/happy helper of the day is),
<<Ha! This is Lisa again.>>
Thanks for getting back to me sooooo quickly.
<<You're welcome.>>
In response to your question regarding my lighting for the anemone-this is what
I've got on the (still 30 gallon) tank: Current Dual Satellite Lamp- 65 watt
2-lamp with lunar light (Dual Daylight 6,700/10,000 K and Dual Actinic 420
Nm/460 Nm).
<<I have never used this myself.>>
I was told at my LFS that the lighting is sufficient for the corals and
anemones, but I've seen many examples of disastrous consequences of poor advice
while reading your FAQ's. Was I misinformed?
<<Not entirely. Certainly not enough light for SPS, or an anemone, in my
opinion. Proper supplemental feeding of the anemone will surely help. Is this
the lighting that will go on the 72-gallon you are moving to? If so, I would
look into upgrading.>>
Everything still seems to be perky in there, but one never knows. I am feeding
the anemone every 4-5 days with a small piece of raw shrimp or a small ball of
formula one frozen food.
<<Not still frozen, I hope? Small meaty foods are the way to go. Read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemonefdgfaqs.htm,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm.>>
I guard him from the sneaky thieving shrimp or put a strawberry basket over him
for awhile so he has a chance to decide if he wants to eat the food, or spit it
out. I AM somewhat unsure of the feeding technique- do I gently shove the food
into his mouth or just put it on his "lips" waiting for his response? I don't
want to gag the poor guy, but I don't want to starve him either.
<<Do read the linked files. Is he no longer ‘sticky’?>>
As for my new setup- here is what I'm planning. I've spent the last three days
reading FAQ's (and subsequently eating nothing but beer and Cheetos)
<<Diet of champions, to be sure!>>
but I'm still a little unclear, so if you would humor me with some constructive
criticism:
72 gallon display with 1 inch oolitic sand (and an area of deeper sand-about 3
inches as my firefish likes to burrow)
Filtration:
15-gallon sump/refugium with 6" sand bed of coarse- medium grade sand (taken
from my current tank with a 2-21/2 inch sand bed. Bad idea?)
<<Not a bad idea to use it from the other tank, no. My preference for DSB’s is
oolitic sand.>>
and some "spaghetti" algae.
Aqua C Remora Pro with Mag-3 pump (hanging on sump)
<<Good skimmer.>>
Rena XP3 canister filter (trying to decide if I should filter/return directly
from tank or in sump after skimming) with charcoal, nitrate sponge.
<<I do not employ canisters on my reef tanks.>>
Water movement:
SEIO M820 Powerhead
the 1200 Powerhead off the cheapie SeaClone skimmer
couple of airstones (necessary?)
<<No.>>
Visi-Therm Stealth 250 watt heater
I'd like to move my existing fish but add a beefier cleanup crew... but many of
the packages I see for sale seem excessive. Do I really need 18 Scarlet Hermit
Crabs, 15 Astrea Snails, 15 Cerith Snails, and 45 Red-or Blue-Leg Hermits?
<<You don’t NEED any of them. It is a personal choice. I add ‘clean-up crews’
for interest/bio-diversity. Ultimately it’s our job to feed properly/deal with
organics.>>
I was planning to add a couple of Bumble Bee snails, a sifting type star or two,
and another tiny hermit crab.
<<I would pass on both the BumbleBee snails and the sand sifting stars. These
stars quickly eat up all available organisms in DSB’s, and perish.>>
My poor abused fairy wrasse actually seems... happy... in the tiny 10-gallon
quarantine as of right now.
<<She is finally getting a break!>>
She is not hiding all day anymore and will actually eat Formula One from my
fingers. I hate to put her back into the tank with the other nasty
wrasse. He's prettier, but I think he will go if I need to make a choice.
<<I think fairy wrasses are much more attractive than 6-lines.>>
Again, thanks for the assistance -
Stephanie D.
<<Glad to help. Lisa.>>
Re: Anemone feeding/lighting and Tank Upgrade - 5/13/2006
Hi Lisa-
<<Hey Stephanie.>>
Thanks for the links to all the anemone information. I truly appreciate the
patience and the lack of flaming at my stupid questions!
<<Not stupid at all!>>
All those hours I was browsing on WWM- how did I miss that (could it have been
the beer)?
<<Haha, maybe!>>
I'd been looking at all the local stores in my area for a book on anemones but
couldn't find one. My poor anemone was never "sticky" from day one. I will
read some more of the FAQ's, and if I can't provide a suitable environment for
him I will return him rather than have him slowly die.
<<A wise choice if you can’t care for the animal. Do try though!>>
We are planning on upgrading the lighting but not sure what we're doing beyond
that. I've spent time looking over the site regarding specifics on
lighting. Since I can't seem to find anywhere that sells bowfront hoods (and
only the hoods) it looks like we will be building our own (maybe this weekend!).
<<Do you mean a lighting hood? A normal fixture is fine to use on a bowfront
tank. If you mean a cover, All Glass has a few different types.>>
Do you have a recommendation- lighting type or wattage that I should be looking
for in order to sustain my corals and anemone?
<<In the 72, I would really recommend metal halides. 2- 150 or 175 watt lamps.>
I couldn't seem to find a standard formula for this, and many of the different
postings in the FAQ's give different recommendations. I am once again
thoroughly confused but I truly want to provide the correct environment for the
marine life I have, rather than return them to the LFS.
<<I understand. It can be confusing. Do look for a unit/bulbs of 6,500K-10,000K
>>
Again, thanks for your patience and for helping to "get the word out" about
proper fish care. It helps us ignorant but well-intentioned fish lovers
immensely.
<<If only everyone was so well-intentioned!>>
Stephanie D.
<<Glad to help. Lisa.>>
Lighting For Anemone - 05/10/2006
Hello Crew!
<Hello Nicole>
You guys (or gals) are awesome! I have a question. I know a local breeder of
clowns here in MI and he has some Pink skunks and ocellaris clowns. <I live in
MI, out of curiosity, who is the breeder?> My question is, is there an anemone
that my light can support? I have a 29g (30x12x18) tank with mostly LPS, Shrooms
and Polyps and my light is PC 2x65w Dual Daylight (67000 & 10k) and Dual
Actinic (460 & 480 I believe). Also are there any deep water SPS I can keep as
well?
<Your lighting should support a Bubble Tip Anemone. Pavona (Lettuce Coral) or
Encrusting Horn Coral would be two that I believe could survive with your
lighting providing these corals are be placed in the upper third of the
aquarium.>
Thanks,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Nicole
Lighting/Reef/Photoshock? - 04/27/06
Dear Wet Web Media Crew,
I have a 240 gallon aquarium with 65 gallon sump. The Tank is 72" long, 24"
wide and 32" high. I have three 400 watt metal halides mounted in the canopy
about 10 inches off the surface of the water. The center bulb is a 20000K and
the two sides are both 15000K. I recently bought a Long tentacle Anemone and
acclimated him for my tank. I have a mated pair of large yellow stripe maroon
clowns in the tank that were extremely happy to have their new friend and
bed. The female has been in the anemone almost the entire time. Constantly
shoving her nose and rubbing her entire body all over the new anemone. I have
been running the lights for about 12 hours a day. This morning, the anemone was
so small that the clown fish could not even get into it. It was shrunk up to a
very small size. Is it possible that I over exposed the anemone to the light,
or is the clown fish too aggressive with it? <The anemone more than likely went
into photoshock. I suggest shortening the photo period to two hours and
gradually increase by 30 minutes every other day.> I took him out and put him in
a bowl away from the clown fish this afternoon and he seemed to come out after a
few hours. I did notice some little brown and black dots on the ends of his
tentacles. Could these be a form of burn from the metal halides.
<Don't believe so.> I thought that 31 inches of water would be enough of a
buffer for the anemone in the bottom but maybe I should give him some cover. I
have him down in the sump right now which I am setting up to be a refugium with
actinic bulbs. He seems to be doing fine now, but I would like to put him back
in the display tank. The clown fish just hang out around where the anemone used
to be as if they are sad. In putting the anemone back into the display tank,
should I point one of the inlets from the sump towards the anemone or do they
like it more still? <Indirect current. Wavemakers are great in this regard.>
Should I be feeding the anemone something?
Wouldn't do that until it starts blooming nicely. Do read here for more info on
anemone keeping. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
Thank you very much, You guys are life savers.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks again,
Dustin LeCave
Lighting For a 30" Anemone Tank - 04/26/06
Hi all.
<<Hello>>
I just want to say that I am addicted to your site and have learned so much in
just the couple days I've been reading.
<<Good to hear...and do keep reading!>>
Glad I'm not terribly busy at work right now.
<<Ha!>>
My question is about lighting a 36 gallon, 30" wide bow front reef tank. The
tank has 45 pounds of live rock, 40 pounds of sand, and a hang on the back - 3
gallon refugium with multiple macro algae. The refugium lighting is on when the
tank lighting is off and vice versa.
<<Mmm, if this "mix" of macro algae includes Caulerpa species you may want to
consider a 24/7 light cycle for the refugium to forestall the algae going
"sexual"...do some (more) reading here, and follow the links in blue:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caulerpafaq5.htm >>
The livestock is two percula clowns, one coral beauty angel, one star polyp, one
pom-pom xenia, one green carpet anemone (not doing so well right now. I'm about
to do a water change and see if that helps), a few blue-legged hermit crabs and
two turbo snails.
<<Be sure to read through our FAQs re "Carpet Anemones":
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cptanemfaqs.htm >>
The width of this tank isn't as common as others (24" or 36") so finding
appropriate lighting can be a bit difficult.
<<Sounds like you need a metal halide pendant fixture, mate>>
I currently have a Current USA Power Compact Orbit fixture with one 65W Dual
6700K White/10000K White SunPaq Power Compact Bulb and one 65W 7100K Blue Power
Compact Bulb. This works out to be 3.6 watts per gallon.
<<Not enough for the anemone, in my opinion>>
My LFS says that this should be enough, even for the carpet anemone.
<<I disagree>>
I just found a 30 inch 2 X 250 HQI Metal Halide Power Compact
(http://cgi.ebay.com/30-inch-2-X-250-HQI-Metal-Halide-Power-Compact-new_W0QQitemZ7718407940QQcategoryZ46314QQcmdZViewItem)
on eBay.
<<Yikes, pricey...and "more" than you need really>>
My question is will 630 watts (17.5 watts per gallon) be t |