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FAQs on Anemone Selection
Related Articles: Anemones, Bubble
Tip Anemones, LTAs, Cnidarians, Coldwater
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Identification, Anemones, Anemones
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LTAs, Caribbean Anemones, Condylactis, Aiptasia Anemones,
Anemones and Clownfishes, Anemone
Reproduction, Anemone Systems,
Anemone Lighting, Anemone
Feeding, Anemone
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Healthy anemones appear full much of the time.
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Marine Livestock, Whlse,
Actinarian sel... 2-14-08
Dear Mr. Fenner,
<Manie>
I recently opened my retail outlet in Windhoek, Namibia and hope to
specialize in marine aquatics in the future as I try to read up and gather
more information in this field. I have received a copy of The Conscientious
Marine Aquarist by one of my clients and was very impressed, needless to say
I refer to it all the time and regard it as my marine bible. I wish I have
been handed this book earlier as I recently landed my first marine shipment
from Sri-Lanka and would have avoided certain species you refer to as
unsuitable for aquarium keeping. My threadfins, raccoons, vagabonds, Klein's
are eating well, but Regal Angel, Chaetodon collare, Chaetodon melannotus,
Chaetodon plebeius, Chaetodon xanthocephalus, Chaetodon falcula are all not
taking various foods I tried to offer. Lesson learned. I would like to ask
your opinion on the green carpet anemone ( Parasicyonis A) as I was told it
should not be in an aquarium as it releases all its stinging cells into the
water if hurt or damaged killing fishes, is there any truth in this as I
find it somewhat exaggerated?
<Mmm, need to be sure of the actual species here... Some places this genus
is given as a synonym for the Bubble-tip, Entacmaea... I would NOT
sell/import actual Parasicyonis species for resale>
Thanks for a great book as it will surely assist in my consideration
regarding future species I order.
Best Regards,
Manie van der Merwe
<Pleased to make your acquaintance. Please do familiarize yourself with our
website: WetWebMedia.com, a collective effort at providing up-to-date
information and inspiration re the hobby, business and science of ornamental
aquatics. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Anemone Selection, Fish Selection –
9/29/07
<Hello, Brenda here>
Just had a quick question about which readily available anemone would be the
hardiest for a beginner/novice aquarist such as myself. I would like to put
it into a well established (10+ month) 55 gallon.
<Bubble Tip Anemone (BTA) is the hardiest, but still considered delicate.>
I have 1-96w 10000k PC, and 1-96w actinic PC. The tank is 18 inches deep.
<This lighting is not enough for a clown hosting anemone.>
I have a decent skimmer, and a canister filter which will soon be using
Chemi Pure Elite. Ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates are always at 0, and pH is
almost always 8.3-8.4. Alkalinity 200+. Everything seems to be doing great
in the tank, and I’m currently setting up another tank to house my GSPs.
Also, another question, I’m looking for something decently rare, somewhat
hardy, that would do well in a 20g, and is reef safe. I have seen a couple
of things that would make a good addition, but I would like a mated pair of
something that is pretty hard to find.
<It will be tough, if not impossible to find something rare and a mated
pair. Fish that breed in captivity are usually readily available. A 20
gallon tank is going to limit you more. I would check www.liveaquaria.com
under “Diver’s Den” and “Collector’s Corner”. Fellow crew member Mich
suggests a Helfrichi, but will be tough to even find a bonded pair.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=171&N=0 >
Thank you much!!
<You’re welcome! Good luck to you! Brenda>
Anemone & Clams in 40G Tank.
9/12/07
Hello,
<Hi Jeff, Mich here.>
Firstly, I would like to say thank-you for all of the great advice.
<On behalf of Bob and the crew you're welcome!>
It must be frustrating having all of these questions that you have to
answer.
<I suppose, to some, at times... but generally I don't think we'd do it, if
some sort of pleasure weren’t derived from it.>
I currently own a 12g Deluxe Nano Cube with LR, 1 percula clown and 3 hermit
crabs. I am thinking about upgrading to a new tank:
•40G Long (48"x12"x16")
•Coralife 48" Aqualight Power Compact Strip Light- 4x64Watt (lighting)
•Aquarium Pharmaceuticals RENA Cal Top Light 200W (heater)
•Aquarium Systems Visi-Jet Protein Skimmer (Skimmer)
<I'm not familiar with this skimmer, but suspect there may be better
options, AquaC and Euro-reef do come highly recommended.>
•Marineland Penguin 200B (Power Filter)
•(2) Pentair Aquatics Lifegard Quiet One- 800 (Powerheads)
I would like to accommodate the following fish/inverts/corals:
•2 Percula Clowns
•1 Rose Bubble Tip Anemone or Green Carpet Anemone
<This is quite a small system to house such a potential for disaster. Given
these choices the RBT is a much better option. The green carpet is
absolutely inappropriate for all but the very largest of systems.>
•1Royal Gramma
•2Firefish
•2Crocea Clams
•6 Blue Leg Hermit Crabs
•3 Cowry Snails
<Many require large systems in order to provide sufficient food. Please
research the species before making your purchase.>
•Pumping Xenia
•Mushrooms
•Button Polyps
<The livestock list seems reasonable with the exception of the anemone. I
must admit my personal bias here as I have seen them more or less wipe out
entire systems and I'm generally not a big fan of people keeping them unless
they are really dedicated to these creatures. Anemones tend to go for walks
at the most inopportune times. The anemone could cause a catastrophe in such
a tiny system.>
Will my system be properly equipped for these animals?
<Seems to be.>
The lighting is 6.5wpg. I think this should be okay for this anemone and
clam.
<I would keep the clams high and close to the light.>
I just want to check with you guys so I can't make any horrible mistakes.
<Oh, you can always make horrible mistakes... with or without consultation!
Murphy inevitably makes his rounds.>
I have the skimmer and the power filter.
<OK.>
I am hoping this will be sufficient.
<Worth a try if you have it, if its not cutting it, then upgrade.>
Thanks in advance for the help, Jeff
<Welcome! Mich>
H. magnifica, Lighting, Feeding – 7/3/07
Ok, here is the story:
In the past I have lost 2, H. magnifica's that arrived in perfect condition. I
kept them in my tank under T5 with independent parabolic reflectors. Many people
will blame it on the light. However my light is keeping the most demanding SPS
under perfect conditions.
<I would have to agree this is not adequate lighting for this species. This
anemone needs higher lighting than the most demanding SPS. I also don’t
recommend keeping corals with this anemone.>
My LFS who build my tank and is a total expert, said that he kept an H.
magnifica for 3 years under T8s! The anemone finally died because some idiot put
in a fish that had been washed with a copper solution.
<I’m not convinced this was the only factor involved in the anemone’s death.>
He said then the secret was not so much on the light but on the water quality
and the diet.
<Lighting, water quality, flow and diet are all huge factors in the survival of
this anemone.>
The diet consisted on mixing good brand of flake foods with water until it
became liquid, then he would grab a syringe without needle of course, and pour
the liquid food into the anemones mouth.
<Ouch! Force feeding an anemone is not recommended. This can be very stressful
on an anemone. Flake food is not an adequate diet for any anemone. They need
small portions of meaty foods.>
This seemed interesting because my H. Magnifica's never ate the pieces of shrimp
I gave them, I placed them inside its mouth and it just threw it out.
<Again, never place food in an anemones mouth. Their tissue is very delicate, if
torn, your anemone may quickly parish. If your anemone won’t willingly take the
shrimp, try something different. Small portions of Silversides, Mysis Shrimp,
Lance fish, etc. That syringe should only be used to get the food to the
tentacles of the anemone, without actually touching the anemone. An anemone will
regurgitate what it is unable to digest. Force feeding or too large of portions
was likely the cause of it regurgitating. Start out with tiny portions and never
feed anything bigger than the anemones mouth.>
So has anyone tried to feed liquid foods into a delicate anemone's mouth?. Do
they accept it this way?
<I’m not aware of anyone force feeding liquid foods.>
I blame their deaths on the fact they were rather large and never ate.
<Anemones are considered difficult to keep. This anemone is considered most
difficult to keep. Collection and shipping alone can be deadly for this species.
It is probable that they wouldn’t eat because of the stress caused from the
collection and shipping. Many, including myself, believe this anemone should be
left in the ocean. This anemone is dieing at a faster rate in captivity than it
is reproducing in the wild. I hope this helps! Brenda>
Nano Tank Critique - 6/25/07
Hello-
<Hi there! Scott F. here today!>
Thank you for providing all the help and (seemingly) endless supply of knowledge
in regard to saltwater aquariums. I read about 1-2 hours (or more) per night of
your site, and feel l will never be able to read everything. This is truly an
addictive, and enjoyable hobby.
<I agree on both points!>
My tank is as follows:
-20gal high nano tank
-Aquaclear 30 filter
-standard florescent lighting
-Fission Nano Skimmer
-Maxi Jet 600 powerhead
-1inch very fine (sugar) grade sand bed
-about 7 lbs live rock with a ton of surface area (all small pieces) and also
ornamental rock. I plan on adding about 1 lb live rock per week until I hit
about 15 lbs
-ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, all zero
-ph is 8.3
-SG is 1.025
<Sounds good so far!>
For fish - I have 2 small (1 inch) false Percula Clowns
1 Bicolor Blenny (2 inches)
1 Firefish (2 inches)
-all are doing well and eating well.
<Good to hear...>
I also have a Scarlet Hermit Crab and 2 snails (about 1/2 in shells, +/-)The
only live animals I plan on adding are some more inverts - more for the
'workload' than appearance (any suggestions??) and about 6 months or so down
the line, a small, hardy anemone.
<Oh...Well- I have to give my two cents on the anemone. Really, I'd avoid an
anemone in any small system. My rational is twofold: First, water quality and
environmental stability are so important to anemones, and the challenges of
keeping such stability in a small volume of water are many. Second, you really
need high intensity lighting (ie; metal halides) for overall anemone health, and
such lighting can potentially overheat a small system.>
Questions:
Is there anything about the setup that is jumping out at you saying "what are
you thinking?!"
<The anemone is the only thing that really stands out as a potential problem.>
-Is the bioload too much for this system?
<No, but I would not add any more fishes.>
-how do you feel about dry foods such as plankton/krill/etc. I normally feed
frozen.
<I'm a big fan of frozen foods myself. I rarely, if ever feed dry foods. Nothing
bad about most dried foods-I just like the "control" I get from thawing,
cleaning and feeding frozen foods.>
-My skimmer has only been up and running for about 12 hours... How long should
it take to start collecting the skimmate (I have been reading, but there's not a
whole lot about Fission skimmers on the site)... That I could find.
<Give it a day or so. If you're not getting skimmate, further adjustment may be
necessary to get production.>
Thank you very much for the help!
Eric
<My pleasure, Eric. Sounds like you're on the right track! Good luck! Regards,
Scott F.>
Nano Tank Critique (Pt2) - 06/27/07
Thank you for the quick response about my nano, and after some reading, I
agree with you about the anemone..
<I'm glad that you did. In reality, anemones just don't do well in the long-term
in most cases. The vast majority expire in mere months; others may hang on for a
year or two and then die "mysteriously". Their husbandry requirements are still
not completely understood, and they simply should not be attempted in anything
less than a fully dedicated system, IMO.>
Will 'fake' anemones work to 'host' the
clowns? I know that's a wide statement with variables, but "generally
speaking?"...
<Hmm.. Hard to say. The bottom line is that most of the Anemonefishes that are
offered for sale are captive bred; many have never even seen an anemone, let
alone lived among one. They might instinctively go to a real or fake one, but
it's really a dice roll!>
I actually have an idea/suggestion about Fission Nano Skimmers... I was reading
a lot about protein skimmers and I think I found something that will work a LOT
better for this particular model. I read that in order to get the best
production out of a skimmer, the intake needs to be near the top inch or so of
water, where most of the proteins collect (correct phrasing?.. I think you know
what I mean)... If you set up the Fission exactly how it recommends, it puts the
intake at about 6-8 inches below the surface. To fix that-- (carefully, the
plastic seems a bit fragile... haven't had any problems yet...) It's a bit hard
to explain w/ words, but essentially if you utilize the 2 elbow joints that are
included and rotate the pump location so that the pump and skimmer section are
side by side and the intake is on the top side of the pump, it puts the intake
within an inch of the top surface. After a bit of adjustment I saw much improved
production and it's really pulling out some gross stuff..
<Excellent! Thanks for sharing! You are right on about surface-active
proteins..>
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Thanks again for the fantastic site and quick responses.
Eric
<And thank YOU, Eric, for sharing your idea...That's what WWM is all about!
Regards, Scott F.>
Heteractis Crispa Anemone... sel., comp.,
sys.
Hi crew,
<François-Étienne>
I've read a lot of information on your site about the Sebae anemone, Heteractis
Crispa and I was considering buying one by the end of this summer. Before I do
so, I wanted to ask you some questions.
<Please do>
I have a 110g aquarium. 4 foot long and 30 inches high. I started this tank in
November 2005. I have 150 lbs of live rock and a DSB made of aragonite on the
bottom. I keep several types of corals (mostly soft corals) but some LPS and a
Montipora. I do have a pretty high bioload (fish) but I have really good water
quality and I never had any problems with it. For the fish, I have a pair of
true percula clowns that could host the anemone. For the flow, I have 4
powerheads (each of them is safe for the anemone; they are well protected). They
are Hagen powerheads. I know these aren't really great but they've done a good
for me since now.
<Actually, their powerheads are one of Hagen's best product lines IMO>
I'll change for better powerheads in the future :) . For the light issue, I have
Geissmann MH lighting. I have two 150 watts bulbs + two 54 watts actinics. The
MH are placed at about 8 inches from the surface of the water. I have a Deltec
skimmer: mc 500. I don't have a sump.
I wanted to know:
Do you think my lighting is sufficient for long term survival of Heteractis
Crispa?
<Mmm, yes... IF the specimen can be placed more or less directly under one of
the MHs>
Does this anemone usually sits on the sand? Could it be on the rocks?
<Is found buried in sediment... not likely to be happy on rock...>
I was planning to place it in the upper part of the tank. On a rock where there
would be some indirect flow toward the anemone. If it only sits on the sand than
would it be ok even if the tank is 30 inches high ( btw, I'm keeping a healthy
Crocea clam on the bottom since one year) ?
<Mmm, this animal will find its own spot in time...>
I was wondering about the comparison between H. magnifica and H. crispa. Do
these anemones require the same amount of light?
<No... the Magnificent requires much more>
Which of them fares best in captivity?
<The Sebae by far>
Is there a major difference between H. magnifica and H. crispa?
<Huge differences... see WWM re... the former is the second largest anemone
(after Stichodactyla mertensii) used in the trade and by Amphiprionines... up to
a meter across...>
Is the survivability rate of Sebae anemone much higher of the one of the
Magnificent sea anemone? Just wondering...
<Again, yes. The only superior aquarium species IMO is the
Bubbletip/Entacmaea... see WWM re...>
I also wanted to tell you about this: I have in my tank 3 little ( half an inch;
really little) bleached bubble anemone. Could there be a chemical war between
the H. crispa and the little bubble anemones?
<Mmm, possibly, yes... though in a system of this size, age... I give you good
odds...>
The anemones bleached a month ago when I was not at home...
Thanks for reading me,
Have a good day
François-Étienne
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Mann's / Hawaiian Maroon Anemone –
06/11/07
I'm looking for some information (light, feeding, flow etc.)
requirements on the Mann's or Hawaiian Maroon anemone (seems to be different
than a maroon anemone).
<Mmm: Cladactella manni (Verrill, 1899)...>
These are one of the only Anemones found here in Hawaii
<And rare there... I have never encountered one... having dived the islands
hundreds of times.>
and I would like to keep one. The LFS that sells them says that they need
turbulent water flow, but not intense lighting. Not too much info. out
there, can you help? Thanks in advance, your site is a blessing to the
hobby.
Gary
<I am also "in the dark" re this species care... From what little I see on
the Net, this species is not easily kept... Please read this one favored
account: http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/invertebrateincare/l/blpickhianemone.htm
And do write back with your experiences re this Actiniid. Bob Fenner>
Re: Mann's / Hawaiian Maroon Anemone
– 06/19/07
Well unfortunately this anemone has died! Much like the about.com article
mine just slowly shriveled up and began to disintegrate.
<Mmmm, yes>
He slowly started turning soft & his tentacles began to lose their "stickiness".
He moved around initially but quickly settled into a spot that he seemed to
like. I tried to target feed him some brine after several days of acclimation,
but the ones that stuck to his tentacles weren't brought to his mouth and were
quickly nabbed by other inhabitants.
System details: I have a 55 gallon system with a live DSB of about 5" and
approx. 50.lbs of Molokai Live Rock (www.Hawaiiliverock.com).
<Neat!>
Water quality was excellent with no detectable ammonia, nitrites and/or
nitrates. Water flow/filtration is provided by 2 Magnum 350's in each rear
corner (only 1 of which is used for carbon, the other is strictly for flow with
no media), a larger CA1000 powerhead and an AquaC Remora skimmer. I concur with
the about.com article in saying that this particular anemone is probably not
suitable for the aquarium (or if it is, its specific needs have yet to be
identified).
<We are in agreement here. BTW, likely your message prompted my writing pc.s on
the large anemone species used in the trade/hobby... Did Heteractis crispa... Am
onto Entacmaea...>
The anemone is collected near over by the Blowhole in the intertidal zone where
it receives a lot of turbulent water flow and highly oxygenated water that would
be difficult at best to reproduce in the aquarium (I have never seen them while
diving either, even at Lanai lookout or the Blowhole dive sites). The funny
thing was the anemone's color never really changed and it was pretty difficult
to tell that it wasn't doing well, but slowly open wounds began to appear and
some of my cleaner crew began trying to feed on these wounds.
I am hoping that my experience combined with the experience documented on
about.com will discourage the future purchase and collection of this anemone.
Thanks for all that you do for our hobby!
Many Mahalos.
Gary
<Thank you my friend. A hu'i hou! Bob Fenner> BTA in Nano Tank? 4/11/07
Hello crew
<Hi.>
Tyler Kohring today
<Adam Jackson on this end.>
I have a 24 gal. reef tank which has had is ups and downs.
<Nanos tend to do that...fickle creatures they are.>
Now it is finally back to normal.
<Good.>
Anyway I wanted clownfish for a while, but I didn't like the normal perculas so
I decided to get two black Australian perculas. * very cool fish *
<Especially the tank-reared versions.>
I have not had them long but they are doing good, one is slightly larger.
<Normal.>
they seem to have paired up and I want to give them a anemone.
I had a bubble tip anemone on mind. Do you think this is a good choice if not
can you suggest one?
<Well first I think it is important to mention that clowns in captivity do not
need anemones in any sort of way to be happy. In fact most people who breed the
animals on a large scale do not use anemones...in fact I don't know one
commercial breeder who uses them. If you do get an anemone it is strictly for
your enjoyment...the clowns don't care. Anemones is general are not easy to
maintain in captive aquaria, most don't live a year in captivity. Out of all of
the choices, E. quadricolor, the BTA is probably the best choice, but that's not
to say they are easy by any means. If you do get one, your best bet is to go
for a captive reared specimen. I'll end by saying I do not personally
recommend
it. I do not like to see anemones placed in nano aquaria, as you've mentioned
they have their ups and downs and anemones appreciate very stable environments
with low nutrient levels. Be sure to so all your research and read the
articles/FAQ's placed on WWM.>
Tank is four months old tank mates: bicolor blenny, Australian perculas, fire
fish, Rainford goby, and six line wrasse.
<Tank is a bit overstocked for my liking...being a nano and all.>
Thanks for the help,
<Anytime.>
Tyler Kohring
<Adam Jackson.>
Anemones and Lighting - 3/12/07
Hello,
<Hello, Brandon here.>
Can you tell me if this bulb (follow link) would be good to use for anemones,
Sebae or Rose and which anemone would be better to keep.
<Firstly, no this bulb will not be even remotely adequate. Anemones need much
more light. I would suggest reading up on lighting and different types of
lighting here,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm Of the two anemones that you
have listed, I would say that the E. quadricolor is the better selection, this
is more of a “beginner“ anemone. I still would suggest much more research on
your part before you select an anemone for purchase. Here is a good place to
start,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm >
Also can you mix tomato clowns with other clowns, I've heard they are some what
aggressive and territorial.
<As a general rule of thumb you cannot mix clown fish. They tend to get very
territorial, and this can lead to deaths. There was a point in time that I had
no choice but to keep four Premnas biaculeatus together in a 75 gallon
tank. This did not go very well. It is possible to keep juveniles together as
long as they are juveniles. It would be extremely helpful to know what size
volume of water we are talking about housing your prospective purchases in.>
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-in-REEF-SUN-ZOO-MED-AQUARIUM-LIGHT-50-50-close-out_W0QQitemZ220089033820QQcategoryZ46314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Thanks,
<You are welcome. Brandon.>
Josh
Re: Keep away from all Anemones or just BTA's? All Can Go on "Field
Trips" 3/4/07
Hi Jason.
<Nope, it's Mich, Jason wrote the original question, and I answered the
question. Anyway, a big hello to you Pam.>
I was reading your reply to someone (below).
<That would be Jason.>
Should you keep away from ALL Anemones, or just all BTA's ?
<All can go on "field trips">
Would a Rose Anemone or Maroon Anemone be any less likely to roam the tank and
cause a possible disaster? (I heard the same thing about an anemone attaching
to an overflow causing a flood by someone else too).
<I'm not aware of any differences between species, but all are capable.>
I wanted to get an anemone and a pair of Clowns, hoping that they would pair up,
and the BTAs, Rose and Maroon Anemones are recommended for beginners.
<Are beautiful, and wonderful to watch, but can have disastrous consequences.>
Thanks.
Pam
<Welcome! Mich>
Sleeping beauty... Clownfish beh. 3/4/07
<Greetings, Mich here.>
My false clown fish is always sleeping in the corner of my tank.
<Hmm.>
What is up with this fish?
<I don't know. Not much info to work with here.>
I have live rock and numerous cool decorations.
<Decorations?!? Are they reef safe decorations?>
Is it necessary to have anemones or corals?
<No and I would encourage you to avoid.>
I don't have one currently.
<Good! Don't get one! Check today’s daily FAQ's and you can read my
opinion. I would encourage you to buy a book that I think will be quite helpful
to you. It's called the "Conscientious Marine Aquarist" by Robert M.
Fenner. Sounds like you're relatively new to the hobby and even if you aren't,
this book belongs on the shelf of every saltwater hobbyist in my
opinion. -Mich>
Anemone, ID, sel. 2/27/07
Dear James
<Akila>
Thanks again for your valuable info.
<You're welcome.>
Attached here is a picture of an anemone that is there in the LFS. I am
not that experienced with anemone. If possible please let me know what
is anemone is and whether it’s a good first anemone addition to my 80G
tank. I have 2 Clarkii Clowns, 1 Lunar Wrasse and 2 Blue Damsels.
<In my opinion, a good first anemone would be a Bubble Tip. The
anemone in your photo appears to be a Heteractis specie (Sebae Anemone),
a much more difficult to keep anemone than the Bubble Tip. Heteractis
anemones require much more light than Bubble Tips. Do read here and
related links above for the information you seek. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/heteraccrispa.htm>
Hope you hear from you soon.
Best regards,
<James (Salty Dog)
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First Anemone, what kind should I get? – 2/14/07
Hi Guys.
<Hi Jason, Brenda here>
I love the site, it’s very helpful.
<Thank you Jason, I’m happy to hear you find it helpful.>
I have a 40 gallon tank with a pair of true percula clowns, a yasha hase
Shrimpgoby and partner pistol shrimp, and an orchid Dottyback. I would like
to add an anemone for the clowns but I’m not to sure which kind. I'm
interested in a BTA, possibly a rose one, because I've read they are the
hardiest. I am also fairly certain that my tank (36 x 12 x 20) is too small
for a sebae, ritteri, or carpet anemones.
<I agree.>
What do you think would be best for my situation?
<Bubble Tip anemones are the hardiest of the clownfish hosting
anemones. However, they are still considered difficult to keep, and are
delicate creatures. With an established aquarium, stable environment,
proper equipment and proper knowledge of their requirements they will do
well in a 40 gallon. Once you can provide for one, a Bubble Tip Anemone is
a good choice for a first anemone. More information is available here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/btaselfaqs.htm
>
Thanks, Jason P.
<Your welcome! Brenda>
Anemones 10/5/06
Hello
<Hi>
First me and my fish thank you as you have been a great help. I've read almost
everything you have on anemones (I know you don't recommend them) but I would
really like one for my false perculas even though they aren't necessary.
Here are my specs
30 Gallon
36" Power Compact Coralife brand new
30 Lbs live rock
2 False Perculas 1"
1 Flame angel (2") He will be going back due to concerns of overstocking but I
want to wait at least 3 months before I move him I like him and do not want him
to die from moving too soon I've had him for 2 weeks.
1 green chromis <1"
Prism Protein skimmer
75 gph Aqualife powerhead
330 Power Filter
Bubble coral, Open Brain, Frogspawn, Fungia plate, various polyps, xenias,
mushrooms, something that looks like a bright green pickle (that is the
scientific name right?) <Works for me.>
2 fire shrimp
1 skunk cleaner
1 peppermint shrimp
I've learned through your website I am going to have chemical warfare issues and
plan on a bigger tank 75 or 90 next year with a 30 gallon refugium. <Would still
be a problem.> What would be the hardiest anemone that I could get and that has
a chance that the
clownfish would host with? <None with corals, all will either have problems or
cause them.> Should I just forget the anemone? <I would.> I really want one but
I do not want to kill one needlessly and will defer to your expertise.
<Premature death would be the most likely outcome.>
I do regular 5 gallon water changes every week with salt water from a very, very
reputable LFS. <Good> They, by the way, will not sell me one as they say my
tank is too small. <True> They refuse to sell me certain fish, like the flame
angel (bought from a different store) which is why I respect them, but I really
want one. <Listen to them, sounds like you have a good store there, lucky.>
They will sell me one based on your answer.
<Sorry, I side with them. Not a good idea>
Thanks
Paul
<Chris>
Hello, I have a 26g bowfront tank that I wish to set up as an anemone/clown
system. - 09/22/06
For lighting I have a 130w orbit pc fixture. For water movement I will be using
an AquaClear 110 power filter and a MaxiJet 600 powerhead. I also have 30lbs of
CaribSea Aragamax sand. I will be using about 26lbs of premium Fiji LR as well.
I have a 24g reef and it has been running great for 6 months, and I have had
reefs in the past, so I wanted to do something new. I'm pretty sure the only
anemone I would be able to keep would be a BTA, but if possible I would like to
try and LTA because I really wanted to do a pair of Orange Skunk clowns. if not,
I will more than likely do the BTA with a single maroon clown. My question are,
will I be able to keep an LTA under my lighting, and would any other anemones be
possible? someone said I could try a carpet as well? if so how often and what
should I feed it? There will be no corals in this tank, just the anemone. also,
would I be able to do a few of
those colorful rock/flower anemones( Epicystis crucifer) in there as well? if I
happen to do the BTA, would I be able to do a pair of gold stripe maroons or
would I just have to do a single? I know they get big.
<<Jordan: I have a LTA in about 5" of sand under 400W MH SE lighting. The
anemone seems to be thriving and is about 18 inches in diameter. LTA's need a
sand bed several inches deep in order to bury their foot. Since you have never
kept an anemone, I suggest looking for a clone of the Bubble Tip Anemone. They
are much easier to keep, can live under less powerful lighting, and because they
are clones, they weren't pulled out of the ocean. Most species of clowns will
easily host in them. I had a pink skunk clown that hosted in my BTA (until he
found a way to jump out of the tank). Best of luck, Roy>
JB
Anemone Stocking 9/21/06
Hi Wet Web Crew!
<Hello Chris>
Tank Param:
Temp - 79-81
S.G. – 1.024
Ammonia/Nitrite – 0
Nitrate - <10
Calcium – 300 (changed calcium supplements to get up to around 400)
Alk – 10.3
PO4 - <.2 mg/l
Lighting – 440 watt VHO
Supplements – Inland Seas trace element (Iodine, Strontium/Moly)
Chemical Filtration – Run carbon continuously (about 2 cups changed out
monthly at water change). Just purchased 100 ml of Purigen to use in place of
carbon
<Might want to try Chemi-Pure the next time around. I like this product more
than any other chemical filtrant.>
Water changes occur monthly with about 35 gallons changed
Inhabitants – various LPS and soft corals (Fiji leather, finger leather,
Rhodactis, Ricordea, Discosoma)
I currently have 3 anemones in my 75 gallon (2 flowers and one Long Tentacle
Anemone). The flowers are about 4-5” in diameter and very healthy and
colored. My long tentacle (about 4”) was purchased bleached and is just now
showing signs of regaining the zooxanthellae after being in my system for about
5 months (it was sold to me as a green long tentacle not a bleached one :-(
). With that being said, I would also like to add one more anemone to my system
(I guess I’m a glutton for punishment but I love these guys). I’ve been
thinking about a bubble tip or possibly a sebae. I’ve read about the
difficulties in obtaining healthy H. crispa and H. malu specimens
<These anemones are difficult to keep.>
so I’m leaning more towards the bubble tip.
<One of the easier, though no anemone is easy to keep.>
Now on to the question!! I’ve heard that anemones in general are pretty bad
about allelopathy but does that only occur when the anemone touches another
animal or do they simply secrete chemicals into the water to stake their claim
to a particular area?
<Allelopathy is generally produced by stinging. Keep in mind, that in nature,
anemones are rarely found mixed with corals.>
If they secrete these toxins into the water I assume that the only method of
exporting is through skimming, chemical filtration, and or water changes.
<Chemical filtrants and dilution of the chemical by water changes are the best
methods.>
If the toxins are secreted by contact I assume that as long as you have enough
room for all,
<In smaller tanks, such as yours, it is better to just keep one
anemone. Multiple anemones can be kept in very large systems, but in doing so,
would recommend keeping
anemones of the same specie.>
then everything will be fine as long as the other needs of the animal are
met. Is there a good rule out there as far as how many anemones a system can
sustain or is it a rule of if you have enough room and the other conditions
(light, current, etc.) are met…go for it?
<Chris, I'm not for keeping anemones with corals. Enough allelopathy goes on
with just corals. Anemones will move from time to time, and during this
process, they are bound to zap a few corals or other anemones. Another
potential problem...if you are using powerheads with unprotected intakes,
anemones
generally will wind up there. This happens when you are sleeping, or when at
work...all part of Murphy's Law. Anyway, when that happens, the tank
can/will become polluted very quickly, killing most, if not all livestock. If it
were me, I'd leave well enough alone, even consider finding a home for
the LTA. Anemones do best is larger systems, 220 gallons and up, and, even with
the best care/conditions, rarely live longer than a year in the home
aquarium. Do read here and linked files above. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm Also
read our article(s)/FAQ's on allelopathy.>
Thanks for all the help!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Chris
NanoCube and Anemone
7/17/06
Hi, Darius Boscarino here. <Hi Darius>
First time writer, long time reader. I recently bought my son a 12 gal dx nano
cube. He wants a "Nemo" thanks to that one movie I try to forget about. I'll be
doing all the maintenance, but with a clownfish I would like an anemone. I've
never done anything with anemones before, but I have read endlessly on your
great site about caring for them. So, my questions are, Are any anemones small
enough to stay put in a 12 gal that will host an anemone? And, Can too much
light be a problem? On nanotuners.com there are custom canopy upgrades that I
want to purchase for the tank. Now there are 2 24 watt PCs. They have canopies
with 3 24 watt lights and also one with 4. I want the one with 4 to be
absolutely sure there is plenty of light. That will be 96 watts for 12 gallons
and the tank is only about 12" deep. Which brings me to my next questions. Which
canopy
would be suitable? And then what mixture of lighting would be best for the
health of the anemone and zooxanthellae? Btw, there will be one clownfish,
probably a true or false percula, an anemone, and inverts. Also, the stock pump
in the nanocubes is weak, so I upgraded from the 106 gph pump to a 230 gph with
a y shaped powerhead for better current adjustment. Your help will be greatly
appreciated.
<Either of those clownfish would do very well substituting any of the soft
finger type leathers for an anemone….. like a colt coral perhaps. IMO an
anemone would not be suitable for a 12g tank. Just a suggestion… if you are not
considering any other fish, a pair of either one of those clownfish might be
more interesting than a single fish. I would go with the 2 24w pc.s that gives
you 4 w/g which would be fine for most of what would be appropriate in that size
tank. If you over do the lighting you risk over heating the tank as well as
problems with nuisance algae.>
Thank you. Your friend, Darius.
<Your most welcome, Leslie>
Some Improper Livestock Selection for a 30 Gallon Reef -
06/29/06
Hey there guys & gals,
Just had some questions on stocking.
<<Okey dokey>>
I sent an email previously but it might have been to the wrong address, email
problems, etc.
<<Mmm, maybe so. We do strive to answer EVERY query we receive>>
Anyways, I was planning on setting up a 30 gallon reef tank in the near
future. This would be my first saltwater tank, so I don't want to screw it up.
<<Ah, much adventure...and reading/researching ahead>>
I am getting a 150 watt 20000k halide, as well as 2 65 watt actinic blue compact
fluorescents (not 03 blue - is this ok?).
<<Depends...what animals do you plan to keep/niche to replicate? Best to decide
what you want to keep/what environment to create, then buy the lighting to
suit>>
I will be ordering ~50 lbs live rock (Fiji) and probably some corals (will there
be any shipping problems with these?) like bubble, moon, polyps, etc.
<<Some ship better than others...some "shippers" are better than others. Visit
the reef forums (Reef Central, Reefs.org, etc.) and query the members re
reliable online sources>>
My question is, could I get an anemone in this tank, or is it too small of a
volume?
<<Would depend on the anemone, and if kept as a "specimen display" only. But I
must express...anemones are not for beginners...please do reconsider>>
I was thinking a sebae, but could go with bubble-tip, or other, by your
suggestion.
<<My suggestion is that you wait my friend...until such time as you have amassed
the experience needed, and can provide the environment necessary, to keep these
amazing and virtually immortal creatures alive and healthy>>
I want for my livestock two perculas, two Banggai cardinals, a cleaner shrimp,
cleaner wrasse, ~20 hermits, and possibly a goby, but probably not. Is this
appropriate?
<<Mmm, a few things to mention here...the clownfish will likely "take over" this
size tank, making keeping more docile species of fishes difficult...the Banggai
Cardinal might be able to hold its own against the clowns but unless you get a
mated pair you will be better off only getting one as they are fairly intolerant
of conspecifics, which is exacerbated in a small system such as this...the
cleaner wrasse will starve to death as they are for the most part obligate
feeders of the parasites they pick from the fishes. You don't have enough fish
(not even close, so don't even think about it <grin>) to sustain this creature,
and more than the wrasse may suffer as it "pesters" the other fish frantically
looking for food as it starves. Better to acquire a cleaner goby (Genus
Gobiosoma) as they are more hardy/will take prepared foods. Be sure to
thoroughly research any/all animals you choose BEFORE you purchase>>
If it is overstocked, I can go without the wrasse.
<<Pass on this fish...regardless>>
Also, is it possible to "over-skim"?
<<Would be very difficult to achieve in my opinion...very little concern re>>
I wanted a skimmer rated for 120 gallons, but can go for one rated at 65 gallons
if it is more appropriate.
<<I think either is probably fine, but unless you're planning for an upgrade I
would get the smaller skimmer for reasons of price/space/energy consumption>>
Thanks!
Eddy
<<Quite welcome, EricR>>
Re: Livestock Selection for a 30 Gallon Reef - 06/29/06
OK, thanks.
<<Welcome>>
I guess I'll go with the two perculas and probably a goby or blenny or
something. One last question: how the heck do I get metal halide retrofits to
go onto my tank?
<<"Retrofits" are intended for attachment to/modification of an existing
hood/fixture. I expect you'll have to "DIY" a hood/fixture for your 30 gallon
tank to utilize the retrofit and keep the MH lamps at a suitable distance above
the water>>
I'll skip the anemone and cardinals. By the way, I do have plenty of experience
with FW.
<<I don't doubt you, and the experience will serve you well...but still...much
to learn re SW systems>>
Thanks again!
<<Always welcome Eddy. Regards, EricR>>
Ritteri do I have it in me? 6/3/06
Good Afternoon, .....excellent site, you guys ( girls included, no offense)
rule. I have a 50 gal aquarium that I have ran for many years as an exclusive
anemone tank (no other creature but anemones.. not even clowns), and I just
moved and I am starting it up again. I have kept just about every type of
anemone (Bubble, Sebae, LTA, Carpet...for only a month though, quarantine
situation for a friend), but the one that I have never kept was a Ritteri (the
one that I always wanted to). I have a ton of experience with all types of
anemones with everything that could go wrong to everything that goes
perfectly. So I am not questioning my abilities or knowledge, just my
lighting. I have (2) 175w MH....1 6500k and the other I think is a 10k or 12k,
and (2) 65w actinics. I have learned through the years (and this lesson was
costly) that if you have doubt, it best not to try, so I am asking the experts
(yes you). And I know that even after my tank cycles again it will be at least
6 months before I can put one in. If you don't think I have the lighting for a
Ritteri, what about a carpet long for the term?
Thanks,
Michael
<<Michael: Many experts consider the Ritteri not only difficult to keep; but,
due to their lifespans/infrequent reproduction they should not even be pulled
out of the ocean. It would be a shame to get one and then lose it. Some people
also think that clownfish are good for the well being of the anemones. As for
me, I have RTBA, GTBA, LTA and a Condy under 400W MH lighting. I also have a
RTBA, Condy and Green Carpet under VHO lighting. I feed the anemones every few
days and they seem to be doing well. All the anemones came with tanks I
bought. If it were me, I would stick with a clone of a RTBA or GTBA. That way,
you're not experimenting on a critter that just got pulled out of the
ocean. Best of luck, Roy>>
Anemone lighting... other cnid. choices - 04/16/06
Dear Bob (or whoever else might receive this FAQ),
<Jodie here on this beautiful afternoon>
My tank has been fully cycled (for the 2nd time) for about three weeks. It is
40 gallons and the current inhabitants include a yellow tang, goby, and domino
clownfish/damsel.
<This is a domino damsel (not clown) who, I hope you understand, will likely
grow up to be a holy terror.>
I upgraded my lighting to 175 watt power compacts with built in fans by JBJ. I
want to add photosynthetic inverts such as corals or an anemone.
<I cannot/will not recommend an anemone to you with this lighting.>
In your opinion, which species of coral or anemone would you recommend for my
relatively immature system?
<No anemones, as they require stable systems and very intense lighting. Some
good beginner softies would be 'shrooms (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corallim.htm)
or the ever-popular zoanthids (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/zoanthid.htm). Both
of these are pretty hardy, come in a variety of colors and sizes, and would give
you some good (and needed) experience before moving on to more advanced-needs
corals.>
Thank you in advance.
<And thank you for letting me flex my spell-checking muscles. Cheerio, Jodie>
J. Ferrante
Re: Anemone lighting... other cnid. choices - 04/16/06
Thank you Jodie and just two more brief questions): Isn't that enough light
that I have- according to my calculations, that's almost 5 watts per gallon?
(well-- almost). To be exact - 4. 44444. Really, that isn't enough for an
anemone?
<This is a matter of personal opinion/experience for me. I was advised that 3-5
watts per gallon was needed, and yet both BTA and Condy failed to thrive. Added
MH and voila! Happy anemone. You could try it, but be prepared in case of a
similar scenario. You didn't mention the depth of your tank -- and yes, this
can make a difference.>
Well thanks for making me aware of that then. I guess you need halides for them.
<Again, some may not but in my experience I would recommend it wholeheartedly.>
And another thing- I read the pages you directed me to and is it ok to keep
polyps in high nitrate levels ( about 35 ppm). How can I get them down if not?
<Discussed at length on WWM. Read re: nitrates at
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nitratesmar.htm
>
Thanks again in advance,
JF
<John, if you want anemones then you should experiment with some hardy soft
corals first, learn how to get/keep your nitrates down, and read-read-read. Be
aware that they have a tendency to wander, stinging things along the way, and
sometimes getting sucked into powerheads (yes, killing everything in the
tank). They are beautiful and interesting, but also a huge
commitment. Cheers, Jodie>
(ahha - used spell check this time-- sorry)
<Much appreciated! jb>
Anemone selection 2/18/06
Hello from Southern IL,
I am currently running a 6' 125 gal marine tank, with a pair of Penguin 330's,
an 8 watt UV, and a Sea Clone 150, and a pair of 36" Coralife 10,000k bulbs. It
currently houses 3 Pajama Cardinals, a Powder Blue Surgeon, a Foxface Lo, a
Domino Damsel, an Ocellaris Clown, a Tomato Clown, 2 Red Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, a
Pin cushion Urchin, and assorted snails and hermit crabs. All livestock are in
good health, and water parameters are acceptable save a fluctuating Nitrate
level. With that information, what anemones might be acceptable in this
tank? Also, the Ocellaris is rather territorial. Will that be a problem in
introducing an anemone? <Jacob, your light intensity is much too low for
keeping anemones. Do search "anemones" on WWM and learn what the requirements
are for keeping them.>
Thanks <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
-Jacob
Anemone Help 2/2/06
Hi Bob, <Hi Michele, James here today.>
My name is Michele Laurita. I was wondering if you could possibly help me. I
have a very small reef tank 25 gallons. I have in it a yellow
tang, clown wrasse, a tomato clown, <Problems coming up, tank much too small for
these fish.> several small hermit cleaner crabs,
2 banded shrimp, and many other corals and live rock. The tank has been
established for over 1 year. It seems every anemone I purchase dies due
to the same cause. It appears that they get I guess for lack of a better term
"ulcers" open wounds that appear white
fleshy openings on the stalk and interior of the anemone. Why is this occurring?
I have already lost 1 anemone and I really love the one I
have now yet it has these symptoms as well. Can you guild me to what I may be
doing wrong. I certainty would appreciate any guidance you could
provide. I read your web site and feel as though you would be able to help ,
Thank you Michele. <Michele, first off, anemones are not easy to keep to begin
with. A large tank, pristine water quality, good water movement and intense
lighting are all required to keep them alive for any length of time. The fish
you have in your tank are creating poor water quality in the amount of waste
they produce. The other problem is that water parameters in a small tank can
shift too fast, another negative for keeping anemones. You will just be wasting
your money buying anemones until you can provide the requirements/needs for
them.
James (Salty Dog)>
Keeping Anemones-Up For The Challenge? 2/2/06
Hi crew!
<Hi there! Scott F. at your service today!>
I would like to thank you for your advice because it really help me a lot.
<Glad we can help!>
I have a FOWLR tank and now I would like to add some Invertebrates , like snail,
crabs, shrimps, etc. as well one LTA, I always put my fishes to QT before I put
them on my display tank to prevent diseases.
<Music to my ears!>
I'd like to know if I have to Quarantine what I'm going to Get, and if I do, for
how long? And what do I need to look to know if there is a disease.
<Okay. Here a re links to a couple of articles I wrote on the topic a couple of
years back, which should give you a good general idea of the process: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/QuarMarFishes.htm http://www.wetwebmedia.com/quarinverts.htm
>
Can I keep a LTA and 1 Purple Tube Anemone* *on a 55g with Coralife 48"
Lunar Aqualight 4x65 260 Watts, a wet dry 75pro and about 50 pounds of live rock
and 1 Ocellaris Clownfish, 1 Bluefin Damsel, 1 Yellow Watchman Goby, 1 large
Engineer Goby and 1 Green Brittle Star.
I appreciate your response an advance.
Thank you
Sincerely
K4Z3KY
<Well, K- I'm a bit hesitant to recommend the LTA for a system illuminated by
anything less than metal halides, as these lights will generally assure that
you're providing the proper intensity and spectrum (if you choose the light
bulb), removing at least one of the major hurdles in anemone husbandry
(lighting). Also, I would not keep multiple anemones in this sized aquarium, as
they may engage in a form of "chemical warfare" that could stress and/or kill
both specimens. You'll still have the challenge of maintaining high water
quality, providing good food, and enough space for the animals. My candid advice
would be to try some less expensive, more abundant, and typically easier-to-keep
Condylactis anemones. Though not as "sexy" as the LTA or Tube Anemones, these
Caribbean anemones are colorful and interesting, and have the added bonus of
living a very long time in aquaria. You still will have to provide excellent
environmental conditions, but if you're up to the challenge, they are great to
work with. Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Anemones - 12/30/2005
Hi
<Hello.>
I was wondering if there are any anemone that would be easy for me to keep.
<Nope.>
I have had my tank for about 1 year and I have a percula clownfish (that i have
had from day 1), and I want an anemone that my fish will enjoy living in.
<If that's the case, you'll have to do the "footwork" to make it happen. Begin
with research, here and elsewhere, on anemone requirements, care, Etc. Neither
easy nor casual.>
All of my water parameters are like they should be, but I have heard a lot of
this about keeping anemones, some good and some bad, I would be thankful for any
information that you could give me.
<The "good" stems from proper research, the "bad" stems from whimsical
purchasing. Save your money for now, likely to end badly for you. - Josh>
Anemones, not a casual decision 12/26/05
I just had a quick question. I want to put an anemone (mainly a bubble tip
anemone) and was wondering if it's ok to put in my tank. I have a blue tang,
tomato clown, some Chromis and flame angel with a bunch of shrimp (cleaner,
blood and peppermint) and snails. What anemone would work with my setup?
<Well I'll start off by saying anemones are not for casual aquarists and are
quite sensitive, the lot of them perish in captivity. Before I can even begin to
recommend or advise placing an anemone in your tank I will need to know much
more about your system, filtration, lighting, water flow, substrate, water
parameters, protein skimmer, maintenance regime, tank size and tank age. Also
research this animal for your self at WWM re: E. Quadricolor. Adam J.>
Re: Anemone Decision
Thank you for the quick response.
<Sorry this one was not as quick.>
Well I have a 75 gallon with a 48"aqualight PowerCompact with 2 65 watt 10,000k
and 2 65 watt actinic bulbs. For filtration I have a SeaLife systems wet dry
with a SeaLife protein
skimmer. Water movement is done by my mag1800 (1800 gph) and the substrate
is the aragonite crushed coral (CaribSea. The tank has been setup for about
a year, I have a couple of mushroom, encrusting gorgonians, star polyps and
button polyps. I plan to put some pulsing xenia's and try a leather soon.
<All are potential victims for the tentacles of a wandering anemone.>
I do biweekly water changes of about 10 gallons.
<That’s good.>
And the tank has been setup for about a year. I really like the idea of having
an anemone if it is
compatible with my tank, if not Ill get some hammer coral or something
similar. Thanks in advance!
<With your lighting and tank mates I would go with the hammer. Much better
suited to captivity than an anemone, good choice.>
Armando
<Adam J.>
Anemones question 12/16/05
Hi first off great site,<Thank you> second, I am new to the saltwater
aquarium and
have a few questions. I want to start off easy and don't want to jump straight
into coral but want something with lots of color. Will Sponges and plants
thrive off of fluorescent lighting and what would be the minimum lighting I
would need to get a Haitian anemones to live. I want to stick with
fluorescent lighting for now because I already own a fluorescent hood. I am
open to anything you think I might want to take a look at what would go good
in a fish only with live rock tank..<I'd start out with clowns and/or gobies,
maybe a Dottyback.>
Oh I have a 55 Gallon tank it's 13" wide 48" long and 21" deep <Brian, if you
are just starting out, take my advice and stay away from anemones till you gain
a little more knowledge and experience. But to answer your lighting question.
anemones will require about 250 watts of lighting in your 55.>
Thanks for any help you can provide. <You're welcome. In the future, please do
a spelling/grammar check before sending. It saves us time as we have to edit
these queries before posting. James (Salty Dog)>
Brian
Second best (easiest/hardiest) anemone species 11/24/2005
Hello Mr. Fenner!
<James today>
Am I right to assume that the second easiest anemone species after the Bubble
Tip is the LTA (Macrodactyla doreensis), given the tank has a DSB?
Thanks!
<As you probably know, no anemone is "easy" to keep. All require
special care/considerations but to answer your question, it would be a good
choice for second. James (Salty Dog)>
Dominique
Anemone Keeping- Just The Facts, Maam! 10/28/05
Hi guys!
<Hey there! Scott F. here today!>
I've scoured your site for a while now, and I'm having trouble locating an answer to my question. I'll try to give you all the vital info, and I hope you can help! A friend recently sold me a saltwater setup, which included the 20 gallon Eclipse 2, which has been modified with an additional 10 gallon sump. The aquarium has 2 overflows into the sump, and the water flows through the tubes into a system of bio balls, then into the sump tank, where it is then pumped back into the aquarium.
<An interesting mod!>
He included the sand, a large chunk of live rock and a ('false') Percula Clown. I waited a couple of days and added a Royal Gramma.
<After you quarantined him, I hope...? just a reminder!>
Both fish seem to be happy, and eat well. I want to add an anemone for the Clown, but I keep getting conflicting answers from my local shops. I know I need to upgrade the lighting, but I can't find anything that tells me the best, and least expensive way, to do this. I did find a
'SmartPaq' system that promises to be ideal to fit the hood I have, and to provide 32
watts. Is this enough light? Should I consider something else?
<While I encourage experimentation on all sorts of fronts in the hobby, I'm not an advocate of "casual" anemone keeping. These animals are truly a limited resource, and removing them from the wild often resigns them to a limited lifespan in captivity, and the potential to severely deplete wild populations. Anemones do require a very high level of care- water quality, food, and lighting are essential.
Many are simply doomed in captivity- the statistics are there. It's extremely important to study the anemone you intend to keep and to design your system accordingly. Since anemones have potentially VERY long life spans, you need to have a system that is large enough to
accommodate them for an indefinite period! A 20 gallon is simply not sufficient for long-term maintenance of a typical "BTA" or "LTA" found in the hobby, when you consider the possible growth of the animal, and metabolic processes and other issues associated with its care.
In addition, the anemone is absolutely NOT a requirement to keep Clownfish happy in captivity. In fact, many of them have been captive-bred for generations, and have never even seen an anemone!
In the end, why not enjoy more adaptable animals in this small system? If you must have an anemone, why not try keeping (I gulp when I suggest this, but there is a certain warped logic to it!) an Aiptasia anemone in your sump? This can help satisfy your anemone "fix" and you can study this much-maligned, yet fascinating animal!>
Here is a link to the system I'm considering. http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/power_CUEclipse.htm
<A nice system, but with the aforementioned caveat about anemones, I'd consider
utilizing it for other animals.>
Can you help a newbie out? I really appreciate your help. I've used your search tool before, and it your site has been helpful to me in the past, when I set up my brackish 55 gallon with my spotted puffers. (I have one with a belly that turns black from time to time, but he seems to be fine, and eats like a little pig; he's now the biggest fish in the tank!)
<Glad to hear that we've been useful to you! I hope I don't come across as overly negative, but I feel that it's important to lay out the facts on anemone husbandry.>
Anyway, I'm sorry to take up so much space; I just tried to include all the information I thought you might need!
Thanks again!
Penny
<You were quite helpful, Penny! Why not consider colorful zooanthids as an alternative to anemones? Keeping these animals may start a lifelong passion for you...Think about it! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.> Anemone scare thanks 10/30/05
Hey guys-
<... and gals... you think you're scared now...>
Just wanted to drop you a quick note of thanks. I asked a question about anemones yesterday, and received a great response. I think that I'm sufficiently scared off, and I've decided to just try to maintain a 'FOWLR' tank.
<Good>
I may try to add some zoanthids later, though, I understand, sometimes they are found on live rock. I'm also going to do a little research on turning my sump into a refugium.
Thanks again for the great site and all the great information!
Penny
<Welcome. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
What Anemone? - 09/03/2005
I was originally going to buy an LTA but after reading your site and seeing
you recommend a carpet anemone for perculas that's the one I would want to buy.
I have a 55 gallon tank with a wet dry filter and 260watt lighting is this
enough space for the anemone?
<No.... Quite honestly, the only one I'd really be comfortable recommending is
a captive clone of a bubble-tip/Entacmaea quadricolor. Please read here for
more: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm
. Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Unable to keep anemones alive 8/3/05
Hello, I have been very unsuccessful in keeping any kind of anemones alive
to date. <This is the case for most aquarists. Anemones are often injured
and/or stressed in collection/shipping and are doomed. Those that do survive
often succumb to inadequate water quality, inadequate light, inadequate food and
very often, for no apparent reason at all.>
My latest was a Bubble Tipped which didn't last for three weeks before it
started to rot from the inside. Clown fishes were fighting each other over the
anemone and were feeding it but to no avail. <This sounds like the anemone was
injured, which is almost always fatal, especially if the anemone is not well
established in captivity (months of good health). Acquiring a healthy specimen
is difficult but imperative, and it isn't always possible to tell by visual
inspection.>
To make things worse I bought another smaller Bubble Tipped anemone for my
nephew and his is still alive and didn't require any special/MH lighting. It's
just your regular fluorescent tube!! <Hmmm... Enough fluorescent tubes could
produce enough light to maintain a BTA, but one or two certainly can't. An
otherwise healthy anemone my survive weeks or months under these conditions
(especially if well fed), but eventually it will perish.>
What kind of conditions are required for anemone? I have Cleaner shrimps,
Bullseye Pistol Shrimp, Blue Hermit crabs, snails, mushrooms, Star and
Yellow/Sun polyps, Scarlet Hermit crab, three different species of damsels,
Yellow tang, Dottyback and three different species of clownfish. <Generally,
anemones require at least strong VHO lighting with MH being better. Water
chemistry should be optimized (S.G. 1.025-1.026, pH 8.1-8.5, Alkalinity 3-4
mEq/l, Calcium 380-450) and general water quality maintained with good skimming
and frequent partial water changes (10%/month minimum) and at least about 10x
the tank volume in water movement.>
I have tried feeding Mysis shrimp, brine shrimp etc. Monthly water changes,
controlled water chemistry, proper lighting.
Please advise. Thank you. Paul <Without knowing more about your system, it is
hard to guess what the problem might be. Even if you acquire a healthy
specimen, it takes optimal reef tank conditions to maintain anemones and even
under such conditions, many still die. Unfortunately, we can only test for a
small fraction of all of the things that contribute to water quality, and of
those that are possible, most of us only measure a few. Because of this, we may
never know what the "secret" is to maintaining anemones. If you do choose to
try again, I strongly urge you to seek out captive raised Bubble tip
anemones. They are already well acclimated to captive conditions and while
their death is still tragic, at least it didn't come from the reef. It would
also be advisable to compare your system, water chemistry and maintenance
practices to other aquarists who have been successful at keeping anemones to try
and reveal any crucial differences. Best Regards. AdamC.>
Anemones And Sessile Inverts... Never A Good Mix - 07/29/05
My BTA has decided to attach himself to the bottom of my button polyp rock
so that when he inflates he brushes against some of them.
<<This is why most here don't advocate placing motile invertebrates in the same
system with sessile invertebrates.>>
They are turning white and I'm assuming that they are being stung.
<<They are>>
I only have a few corals in a 105 gallon tank and there are plenty of other
rocks for him to choose from.
<<This is not the fault of the anemone.>>
Is there any way to get him off this particular rock? I have moved the polyp
rock from the top of the tank where it was getting maximum light and current to
the bottom shadier part of the tank to see if this gets him to move.
<<This may or may not work, but you are now stressing both animals.>>
So far, it's not working. I don't want to pry him off or hurt him.
<<No, prying will likely damage/kill the anemone. They can sometimes be
"gently" coaxed from smooth surfaces with a carefully applied thumbnail, but
trying to forcefully remove them from rock is ill advised.>>
Any solutions?
<<Mmm...place the rock back where the anemone will be/was happy and accept the
demise of the polyps...learn from the experience and treat the (any) anemone
accordingly.>>
Thanks! I've been reading your sight for hours and can't find the answer, so
far.
<<The "answer" is not to mix these critters in the first place my
friend. Regards, EricR>>
To Anemone, Or Not To Anemone... 7/11/05
Hi Gang!
<Brandon>
Question for ya'll. I have recently converted my 125G reef tank to a FOWLR tank.
I took the frags I collected and created a separate, smaller tank to house them.
The logic behind this move is that much beauty in the ocean lies within the
fish. I have about 1/3 of the tank filled with live rock, but wanted many
swimming lanes and open sandy areas.
My question is this:
I am considering heavily adding a beautiful carpet anemone to the 125G tank. I
have really nothing in the tank it can sting coral wise, and I have plenty of
lighting with 8.5 watts per gallon of 13K and actinic lighting. I also have a
mammoth Beckett skimmer and large refugium, further adding water volume to the
tank. Have any fish, besides rock skippers like blennies, been known to fall
prey to carpets? I'm thinking along the lines of tangs, angels, Basslets, and my
mated pair of perculas that I'm sure will love it.
Thanks for the thoughts!
Brandon
<Less than one out of a hundred carpet anemones live a month in captivity...
Likely half are doomed from improper extraction, damage enroute from the wild...
Are these odds acceptable to you? Bob Fenner>
Re: To Anemone, Or Not To Anemone... 7/12/05
No, I guess they are not. I was not aware that 1% survived. I figured given
the proper care, survival would be very long indeed. Thank you for pointing
that out to me.
<Glad to. Bob Fenner>
Anemone tank
I have an 72 x 24 x 24 180 gallon aquarium with the following equipment:
Lighting: (2) 96W PC, (2) 175W MH, (3) 140W URI VHO on a reflector-backed,
fan-cooled canopy
Filter/UV Loop: LG 2MD pump, Sea Clear canister with looped tubing in clear
well, 30W UV, (low flow)
Aerobic Loop: Clear for life wet/dry filter sump, TF200 protein skimmer with
exterior pump Iwaki 20LT pump, MD Iwaki 30LXT pump
It has about 150 lb of live rock and 3 inch bed of live sand over about ½
inch of crushed coral.
Is this tank worthy of an anemone? I am interested in adding either a
single Haddoni or a E. quad anemone. Is the lighting and setup OK for
either?
The objective is to have the coveted anemone thrive and be a focal point of
the tank. I would opt for the Haddoni based upon the relative ease of care
but don't like the idea of having the creature split all over the place.
The Haddoni is less apt to split from my reading and may be a better choice.
What advice can you give me? <Bill, your lighting would be inadequate to
support either a haddoni or a quadricolor. You would need a minimum of 5 1/2 to
6 watts per gallon. You are at a little over 3 at present. James (Salty Dog)>
Regards,
Bill Sanz
Re: Anemone tank
Sorry James,
Thanks for the quick response - best site on the web!
I probably wasn't clear in my description. The parenthesis around the
numbers indicates the quantity of bulbs of each type. <You were clear, Bill. It
was my error, sorry.> I have three 60"VHO's on a IceCap 660 and two MH each 175W,
plus the two 96W PC for a total of 962W or approx 5.34W/gal. The VHO are two
URI Actinic White and a Actinic
R. I also meant to compare the BT with the Haddoni. Anything else you
see? <Bill, you would have much better success keeping the BT with your
lighting set up. James (Salty Dog)>
Regards,
Bill Sanz
Anemone Tank 06/07/2005
Hi there, <SUP>
I have a 10-gallon tank outfitted with a Skilter and 90-watt PC's with a
clownfish and orchid Dottyback and several corals. For years I have tried
to house an anemone for my clownfish with nothing but failure (the longest I had
was a rose-BTA for 6 months under blue actinic w/o my PC's!) Since I
love the beauty of the anemone, and this is truly what got me interested in the
hobby (along with clownfish somewhat) I have decided I might like to
"start over" and just make an anemone tank and maybe add a clownfish back in
later on. My question for you is, what anemone species would thrive best in
my tank?
<With a 10 gallon it will be pretty hard. They are good eaters that like clean
water. In such a small system it is hard to feed them well and not pollute your
water. Plus a lot of anemones will wander around to find a good spot and if
there is not enough room to roam they my perish.>
Would I have to make any changes? Is my lighting sufficient? I noticed at my
local zoo that they have excellent success with their anemones
by having a splash come down through the water to give the anemone oxygen. Is
there any way to set something like this up?
< Yes power heads. This is the main source of food for that anemone. you need
to provide good flow to make sure the tentacles are flowing and feed and waste
are carried towards and away from the anemone. Also direct feeding is a must
when you have a smaller tank with a limited number of fish. The food that can
be consumed by the anemone can be rather large. As far as which ones I
like. The Rose Bubble Tip is my favorite but would be too large for that tank.>
Basically, I just want to get a happily thriving anemone--maybe let it have the
whole tank to itself (no fish, corals, etc)--and then maybe add a few inverts or
a clownfish after awhile.
Thanks for your help! Jon <No problem.. EricS> Nano Reef 30 Gallon - 5/25/05
Hello there Bob,
<Paul Mansur back from the dead to answer in Bob's name>
After reading over the vast amounts of articles and FAQ's on your site, I have several questions regarding the set up of my 30 gallon reef tank. I'm planning to set up the tank over the period of a year, I'll be putting around 15 to 20 pounds of live rock in during the 3 month cycling period, just to make sure that everything is stabilized.
<sounds fine>
Does it matter when you put a BTA in the tank?
<Anemone in a small tank? Hmmm...be careful here for very obvious reasons: aggressive, will move about the tank, and grow larger than you think taking up precious space (and this is a small tank)>
Would putting it in before the fish matter?
<I would if you insist on placing one but please consider my comments on BTAs in small tanks>
I've been eyeing a BTA at the local store for a while now, but I can't identify it. It has a rose colored foot, with greenish brown tentacles, with a white ring at the end of each tentacle. I'm planning to convert my lousy 2x20 watt hood to a 7x20 fluorescent watt hood, would the 4.5 watts per gallon be sufficient to sustain a BTA?
<Some feel this might be OK if it is well fed. I tend to agree with that. I think I would rather see (in my opinion of course) a power compact or T5 for this tank. Higher output with little in the way of heat.>
The tank is only 18" high. I'm wondering are bio balls really worth it?
<Not in my opinion. A good amount (read 20-40 pounds of cured quality live rock would more than suffice>
I have heard that they can become nitrite factories after a while and are just removed, should I even bother adding them?
<Not in my opinion>
The live stock list are as follows-
1 Tomato Clown
1 Bicolor Pseudochromis
3 Cleaner Shrimp
2 Feather Duster Worms
1 BTA
<I would recommend against this based on your stocking here for sure>
4 Turbo Snails
1 Daisy Coral
1 Open Brain Coral
1 Meat Polyp Coral
2 Sea Mat Corals
I hope these livestock are compatible with each other, and won't put too much stress on the system.
<Do your research. Thanks for being part of it all ~Paul>
Thanks,
Sean
By the way great site! I've recommended it to some of my friends.
<Thanks for the compliments> Identifying anemone/feeding, using test kits...
Hi Crew,
<Debbie>
Any information you can lend will be appreciated. I have read over and over all the FAQ's I could find and looked at all the pictures I could find but still can't really tell what my anemone is. I think I finally found the answer but then it also sounds like another one too. At the LFS, they called it a Carnation Anemone, when I asked what family that was from they said, Stichodactyla gigantea, it's like the Ritteri. So here it goes. It has short yellow tentacles, under the tentacles is a deep orange color, then this color is down the column until the end where its yellow. If it balloons up its more of a yellow column but when it goes back down its orange. I thought it might be a dyed anemone but read where all the anemone would be the same color.
<Mmm, no... can be multi-colored... and from your description it sounds like this one is dyed>
Is that right? I don't know if I should put it on the sand which they had it on in the LFS, and they also said that they have had it for 3 weeks and it was still beautiful, healthy too, but back to my question. I put it on the sand, and it laid on its side, so I moved a small piece of rock under it and it ballooned up till it fell off, so I've left it in the sand and it hasn't moved an inch in 2 weeks. Does get some slime under it but is that from it trying to attach itself to the sand?
<...>
Also I was wondering if I could blend all the krill, Pacifica plankton, squid, Cyclop-Eeze together and squirt it near the anemone.
<.....>
This anemone also never closes during the day or through the night and is still open when I turn on the lights, and then it closes for 1-2 hours and stays open again. Is this normal, or should I be worried?
<........>
Another question I have is my tank has been running for 1 1/2 years now and I'm probably the most brain dead person but I cannot read the Red Sea calcium test I bought or the Seachem
PH/ALK. When ever I read the results I just can't believe it because the calcium test I get from my water goes below their chart and my heart starts pumping, also the Seachem Alka test says 1 drop equals 0.5 meg/L and I have to use 5 drops before it gets to the right color and then it says to divide it by 2. Well my number is 1.25. Does that mean its 12 and its suppose to be 7-8. Are my fish going to die? Could you please help me. My PH reads 8.1 with the Seachem test kit but reads 8.3 with the Red sea one. All the other tests are good or I would be
worrying about them too, but those are easy to read. I'm doing everything to prepare the water properly, water changes weekly. I also add
Aragamilk along with the water changes. I even went home and got a water sample so they could check my water first before I bought it. Really care about these animals and
a lot of stress to, to make sure their happy. Thank you for all your time.
Debbie
<... please return this anemone, don't buy anymore livestock that you can't identify... and read on WWM re test kit use, alkalinity... Bob Fenner>
Relatively easy anemone for a tiny world
Hi, just a few questions. I know anemones are not easy to keep, but I was thinking of putting an anemone in my 12 gallon for my clowns. Is there a relatively easy anemone to keep in this tank considering I pay much attention to the water quality?
<Relative... is a relative term... a tank "bred" BTA (Entacmaea quadricolor) would work out best... but even this will likely die on you, kill all your other livestock>
And how big would it need to be for the a 3 inch ocellaris clown to want to inhabit it? The lighting is a 32 watt power compact, is this enough? Thank you.
Adam
<All might work out, but I don't give you good odds. I'd wait till you have a larger (more stable, disaster-proof) system. Bob Fenner> Ritteri Question
Hi!
<Hello! :D>
Could you explain why my 3 percula clown fish keep knocking and taking the pieces of cockle I place in my anemone out of it?
<Simple - they want the food!>
I had a magnifica anemone which I only had for a month before it suddenly died and have just bought
another similar anemone 2 days ago which looks great.
<Problem with these guys is they require extraordinary amounts of light (I know of several specimens that have parked themselves directly under 400w halides) and require tons of flow (in the thousands of gallons per hour). They're very difficult to keep in captivity and I usually never recommend attempting one without years of anemone keeping experience>
The clowns took to it within minutes of it attaching to a rock in the tank but keep knocking any
cockle it has in its tentacles out. Should I leave the feeding of it solely to them and it's reliance upon whatever it gets floating in the tank or
persevere with trying to hand feed the cockles?
<Definitely not - keep the fish away from the anemone while it eats, and feed it well while it's acclimating>
I also have a problem with feeding my white blue-tipped Malu any cockle etc, before it gets chance it's
whipped away by my coral beauty angel fish-any suggestions?
<Scare the fish away with a net or your hand while they are ingesting their food. Please read our archives regarding Ritteri (magnifica) anemones, and see the sticky posted under the anemone & clownfish forum at reefcentral for more info>
Many thanks in advance
<You're welcome, good luck!>
Mandy
<M. Maddox>
BTA and Clowns - II
Hi, What anemone ranks second easiest to keep with Perculas and false Perculas and what sort of lighting do they
need? What is the chance that the Percs will accept the new BTA?
<The BTA would be one of the "easier" ones to keep. My choice for the "second easiest" would probably be the Ritteri. Keep in mind that no anemones are easy to keep in that sense of the word. For a BTA I would use at least 4 1/2 watts per gallon provided the tank is under 18" in depth. You don't mention tank size in your post, it would be more helpful in determining lighting correctly. James (Salty Dog)>
ANEMONE IN 12 GAL
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005
Hi Crew, your thoughts on the following would be appreciated: I have a 12 gal FOWLR that has been established about two years. I would like to remove
the few fish, and add two or three percula clowns and a compatible anemone; given the tank size, which anemone would be most practical? Thanks, Steve.
<Steve, the bad thing about putting an anemone in a 12 gallon tank is that the water parameters can change too quickly which isn't good. It can be done with daily monitoring of water levels, pH, etc. Another drawback is that the preferred anemone (Ritteri) is too large for a 12. The bubble tip, which is third on their most preferred list would be the better choice, but there is no guarantee that they will inhabit it. James (Salty Dog)>
Anemone Q's
Hi Guys, <How goes it, Michael here sneaking in some answers and
purgatory...I mean...my job>
Thanks for your time. I recently encouraged my wife into upgrading our
FW to a SW system. I am very pleased and after cycling(2 months), then
the introduction of a damsel (another 2 mths) and just recently a pair
of clownfish which have also been in the system for 2 mths, giving the
system a total of 6 mths operation. <Good going so far> My wife is dead keen on
getting an
anemone, and I have read extensively about keeping them on your site,
and although they seem difficult we would still like to try. <What species?> My
concern
is, what type of fish are suitable for a system with an anemone? <Any reef safe
fish will be fine (e.g.. no triggers, puffers), but that's not what my main
concern would be. The main concern should be proper lighting and water
conditions. Please consult our archives, and see the FAQ's posted on the
reefcentral anemones & clownfish forum (www.reefcentral.com). The sticky in
that forum has a ton of useful information > It
seems most will eat them, any help welcome! <Not many fish will eat an
anemone...however anemones love fish!> Love the site, <We try>
Adam Wade <M. Maddox>
Youth Minister <Slave to capitalism until I graduate>
Teaching an old marine dog new tricks 10/14/04
Hi, I am planning to set up a 65 gal. marine with mostly fish and maybe an
anemone for a clown fish. <Anemones are among the most demanding inverts that we
attempt to keep, and their survival is generally poor. I will fill in more on
husbandry below, but one of the keys is species selection. Rose bubble tip
anemones (Entacmaea quadricolor) are available captive raised and are very
hardy. Heteractis Malu (often sold as "sebae" anemones) are a good second
choice, but most are bleached white with purple tips. Do seek out one that is
not so. Stichodactyla haddoni is the only one of the three carpet anemones that
can be recommended. Most other species of anemone should be patently avoided by
all but the most experienced aquarists. Be confident in your ID and patient in
selecting a specimen.>
I have some experience with marine tanks but it was about 10 years ago. I used
undergravel filters with powerheads and canister filter. At that time wet dry
filters were for reefs.
<Ummm... what's an undergravel filter? Just kidding! My first foray into
marine tanks was much the same.>
I know times have changed as have the equipment used so could you please help me
catch up. My LFS tells me to use a wet dry with a pre drilled tank with an
overflow. But he says to leave out the anemone and go fish only.
<I am not a fan of wet/dries for any application except heavily stocked fish only
systems. In general, I also steer folks away from anemones. Even those I
listed above aren't easy to keep.>
(That's not what I want). This is a small town and it is hard to get straight
info without someone trying to sell you something.
<This is true in most places. If you know what you want, do it. By asking here
you are demonstrating that you want to do it right!>
I've read a ton of posting from many sites but I am feeling overwhelmed. I
thought I would go with a wet dry with room for a protein skimmer in the
sump. Would that adequate as for as filtration? Thanks, Kim <I would skip the
wet/dry in favor of a simple sump and a good quality skimmer. Live rock
(3/4-1.25 lb/gallon) and sand will easily take care of your filtration
needs. Anemones require light and feeding. Your lighting should consist at
bare minimum of 4 VHO tubes the length of your tank, but you may want to
consider 175w MH. 105-200W of PC would probably also be OK, but I am not a fan
of PC's because of their complicated and expensive replacement. Anemones tend
to wander around a bit, so you must be extremely cautious of pump inlets,
drains, powerheads, heaters, etc. that may injure them. If you wish to keep
these animals, I strongly recommend Bob Fenner's "Conscientious Marine Aquarist"
(beginner), The Reef Aquarium Vol 1&2 by Delbeek and Sprung (advanced) and
"Anemonefishes and Their Host Sea Anemones" by Fautin and Allen (unexcelled in
the hobby for ID). Best Regards. AdamC.>
Where to find/buy Captive Bred BTA Rose anemones 8/3/04
I'll be quick. Where can I buy (online) a captive bred/cloned anemone? I
don't want to steal a clown fish's! I can't find it on google anywhere. Thank
you, Marshall Montgomery
<Edie at Tropical Paradise (Cali) has a fine store and is an avid supporter of
cultured reef creatures. I was just there months ago and saw a couple hundred
Rose BTA there. You can look him up at:
http://www.tpaquarium.com/
best regards, Anthony Calfo>
Which Anemone To Keep?
Thanks so much for the reply.
<You're quite welcome!>
Just a couple questions in reference to some of your responses. First, I have
tested my water source for nitrates and always get a 0 reading. With the sand
you referred to (and of course the live rock, which I know I need more) where
would you place the sand within the system and how much would you recommend?
<I'd keep it simple, and build up a live sand bed within the display itself. I'd
shoot for a depth of around 3-4 inches or so for denitrification capabilities>
Also at what point would you start slowly removing the bio balls?
<I'd start removing them after you've installed the sand bed and have had things
running smoothly for a month or so>
Second, on the anemones; are you foreseeing a potential problem because they are
sometimes mobile and could kill each other and my corals?
<That is one of the potential problems, as is longer-distance "warfare"
(chemically). And, quite frankly, hobby experience is so poor overall with
anemones that I think that we should keep "one to a customer" until we've had
long term success (like years, IMO) with them. This is my opinion, of course,
but it's based on my personal experiences and those of others within the hobby
at large.>
If your answer is yes to that, my 2 Clarki clowns have
a strong bond in my LT and Bubble Tip. The LT is shared by both clowns but the
Bubble Tip is the home of only the larger which he attacks me every time I even
get close. to the point of drawing blood). Would you take this into
consideration when choosing which ones to remove.
<Sure. I'd keep the anemone that seems to best settling in to captive life. The
Bubble Tip has a better captive record than most, and if it's hosting a pair of
clowns, it's just going to be that much more interesting! Keep in mind, however,
that it is not a prerequisite to have an anemone to keep a clown happy and
healthy>
Love your comments. Thanks Again
<My pleasure. Please keep in mind that my opinion, or anyone else's, is just
that- an opinion- based on my experiences and the experiences of people that I
know. It's certainly not the "last word" on the subject! In the end, you'll have
to make your decision based upon the knowledge that you have and your gut
instincts. With research and personal experience, you'll be making some
excellent decisions, I'll bet! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Malu anemone 3/26/04
Truly, Thank you my friend. If it were not for your advice I would be
helping to destroy our reefs and that is not my goal I can assure you. I visited
the LFS today and told the
owner I had changed my mind and had decided not to purchase the Malu anemone.
Much to my dismay, I notice that he had in fact bought many Malu's, there were
maybe 20 or so in his tanks," they are selling so well, I am selling four
or five a day," I thought to myself....99% of these will die in
a few months.
<ughhh! yes, sad but true... especially so if they are the typically
bleached imports>
I have completely changed my attitude to buying marine organisms since finding
your site. Don't think I've done so
much reading since I was at college! I have a zillion & one questions to ask
you guys. BUT I will do it slowly over time.
<outstanding! Isn't the Internet a wonderful tool too?>
Q) If I do buy a BTA and clown. How is the best way to quarantine them? I have a
30(US) gallon QT tank but what about the light for the anemone? what sort of
intensity will I need in a bare tank (one lump of live rock) with two small
internal sponge filters?
<all good... and modest aquarium light is fine for the short stay in QT as
the anemone can be compensated for the reduced light with feedings>
the tank is 2 feet wide 18 inches tall and just 12 inches front to back. (24 UK
gallons) I could rig up a halogen light above it but is this really necessary?
Please I would appreciate some advice on quarantining an anemone?
<not needed... and do check out the article by Scott Fellman on our site here
specifically about QTing invertebrates (he has one on fishes too)>
To Scott, Bob, Anthony and all the other so important people "the
Crew" as we know it. You are spreading the word over here as I am and at
last I believe some people are starting to listen. LFS's and private keepers
alone are waiting to see how my tanks evolve from fish only to reef and fish.
Time will tell but it will all be built on your expert advice as I personally
believe it to be the best! This all will involve a move in a couple of months so
I will keep you posted. Many thanks, Simon
<looking forward to hearing of your continued success! Anthony>
Another anemone 4/12/04
I am disappointed by your judgmental reaction and lack of any faith in me. I have a 24-hour Current USA 36" 2x96 watts Power Compact and Moonlite lighting system on my tank. The anemone in question has grown twice the size it originally was in the tank at
PetCo and I had watched it for one week while it acclimatized to the PetCo tank to make sure it was healthy and well before purchasing it. It is a very active anemone and I have been able to observe many diverse behaviors this anemone has put forth. In addition to the correct lighting I have fed him one small shrimp once a week which it grabs and eats without pause. I am very pleased with this specimen and only which to be more educated by knowing what it is
exactly. Thank you. Absalom
<I'm glad to hear the anemone appears to be faring well. Please consider our collective and extensive experience on such matters though. And also know that anemones swelling after a few weeks/months in captivity is not growth (much or at all), but rather simple responding (filling with water) to changes in water flow or light. In fact, its usually a sign that lights are aging, dirty or inadequate when corals or anemones swell significantly. They are panning for light. This is not a critique of you, my friend... just a statement of act/experience that you need to consider if you really want to succeed with keeping this animal healthy. Much more to read/learn here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemoneidfaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemidfaq2.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemidfaq3.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonef.htm
plus a couple dozen other links to follow from here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm
best of luck, Anthony>
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Anemone from Mediterranean - tank covering 2/24/04
Hello Anthony!
<cheers, Thanassis>
I was by the sea the other day and picked a stone with three anemones attached
on it. I removed carefully the smallest one and placed it in my tank after a
long acclimation procedure. It seems to be doing fine after 3 days, but since it
is moving a lot, I am afraid what will happen if it gets close to my Leather
coral, my Discosoma or my Zoanthid (that is all my invertebrate population).
<please resist ever doing this my friend. Never put any animal in your
display without quarantining it for 4 weeks in isolation first. There are many
dreadful parasites, pests and diseases you can/will bring in otherwise. Its a
very risky habit>
I also found a small crab under the stone. Is it ok if I place it in my in-sump
refugium or not? (eat detritus, etc.)
<very few if any crabs are truly reef safe. I'd avoid it>
Last but not least, I bought a Nemateleotris Magnifica two days ago. It is a
great fish and my Yellow tang seems to ignore it now. I hides the most of the
time and once in awhile it comes out from the LR and swims in the open. I have a
lot of amphipods, so I hope it will not starve. Of course I feed extra. The
problem is that it has jumped out twice and got into my overflow box. I am
afraid that next time I will find it dead on my floor, just as my little Ocellaris.
<they are known for being jumpers indeed>
I am thinking of covering the tank. It is ok if I use an acrylic cover or glass
would be better? Will this reduce the light from my 250 Watts Geissmann
lighting system?
<a thin sheet will reduce some UV. This may help or hurt... but only slightly
either way. I'd suggest that you do it and just be sure to wipe it clean weekly
for best light penetration>
By the way, I have ordered your book about coral propagation and I am looking
forward to getting it soon.
<wonderful to hear... thanks kindly :)>
Thanks as always and best regards, Thanassis
<and to you in kind, my friend. Anthony>
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Protein skimmers and Anemones 2/8/04
Hi this Jonathan I emailed you the other day and I talked to
Anthony and I was asking his opinion on a protein skimmer. I was
not specific on the Protein Skimmer. So looked it up on the website and it's on
Championlighting.com and it's under ASMG protein skimmers,
<ahhh... you mentioned Custom Aquatic and I could not find the unit there or
on a general search on Google. Strange>
The name is (Euro-style Protein skimmer # g-2x) the price is
259.00) What I was wondering is if you would find it to be a good
skimmer.
<not sure... its a knock-off style, and I've never used it. It looks good and
similar, but my preference is to buy the real thing for nearly the same price.
Euro-reef or Aqua C for an alternate... long-standing faves>
It is a for a sump. I also have a question on Anemones. I have two Anemones
Florida pink tip, Any way I've had them for about 2 1/2 months.
<please read through our archives on why you/any of us likely should not be
keeping these>
Every few days after I feed them frozen shrimp) which is about every 12 days.
<not enough food... please feed 3-5 times small portions weekly>
They shrink and let out a long brow silky string like material and then they
come back out.
<its excrement>
I've had this tank(46gal bow front) for about a year and a half. Since then I
had two other anemones that did the same thing. They lasted about six months
(reason they died was I had a copper problem but that's been cleared up now for
about 3 1/2 to 4 months now. I was wondering if that they are letting of waste
and
it's natural or it's something else.
<the former... but more importantly, there are very few suitable anemones for
captivity, and worse... few that can sustain harvest by our/any industry. I wish
more people would take a conscientious stand on not keeping anemones in
community aquariums. Else, we may watch them collected and killed into local,
regional... beyond(?) extinction. Your experience that they die after some
months is common. Sadly. Read more to learn why. Best regards, Anthony>
Anemone Frustration, please advise!!
Bob,
I've been a great admirer of your candidness regarding
queries, so I hope you can put me straight! I have an eight month old
80 gallon reef system that is really not making me a reputable anemone host!
<Mmm, you likely know that as a group, anemones are not hardy aquarium
animals... for many substantive "reasons">
The first anemone I ever put in this tank was a Condy, who is still the ONLY
anemone to survive. I have four PC lights (two white, two blue 65
watts a piece) that according to the locals and other "experts" should
be able to handle the majority of coral and anemone's on the market.
<Yes, though "slowly"... this is about at the lowest end of
photo-strength for many commonly kept photosynthetic cnidarian species, this
size/shape system.>
I have been able to propagate pink pulsing xenia successfully as well as house
Euphyllia, but one expensive carpet anemone (green, lasted four days) and one
bubble tip (not even twenty four hours), I find myself mystified as to why I
can't keep these creatures healthy.
<Could be the "precedent" of the other animals... but the largest
contributing factor is very likely simply the condition of the animals at
purchase... IMO most anemones don't "make it" due to trauma, wear and
tear of collection/extraction, shipping and handling/abuse... having been
involved in the entire process, I assure you it is horrendous. Most animals get
torn physically in their removal... squeezed excessively to reduce size, weight
for shipping,
kept in almost to actual dark for days to weeks during transport and temporary
holding... repeatedly adhere, get
roughly detached... till you/the consumer gets them or...>
I admit I love watching my two tomato clownfish bask in an anemone (one of them
has attached itself to the Condy), and I desperately want to successfully house
a bubble tip, so needless to say I'm really depressed right now (it seems the
bubble's dying in my tank right now). I actually drove it back from a
store in Cincinnati, OH (where I spent Thanksgiving) to Memphis (8 hours), where
the proprietor bagged it (along with the rock it was attached to), and Styrofoam
it and I promptly acclimated it last night in the middle of my tank for twenty
minutes, gradually adding water to the bag (the lights were off, as well).
I watched it for a bit as it slid off it's housing to
find better quarters, in the morning I awoke to see it "sitting" on
one of my rocks higher up in the tank having lost most of its color in the
tentacles (it was a brownish red), and then I was off to work, hoping to return
to see my clownfish basking in a fully composed anemone. When I
returned, the clownfish who attended the Condy was all over it, and the bubble
was moving until it dropped from the rock it was on into the cave underneath it,
where it is still hiding out, or dying (same place, consequently where my carpet
died a week and a half ago). The proprietor said that the bubble had
been with him for three months and had moved frequently. It was in a
tank with coral only (no clownfish), and I'm wondering if my clown attributed to
his demise, or was it just my fault?
<... a few things can/might be done to improve your/its chances... a large
water change right ahead (a day or so) of its introduction, the use of about a
quarter pound of activated carbon in the filter flow path (to reduce chemical
interaction)... and most importantly, the purchase of a "tank bred"
(asexually produced) animal... there are many of these Entacmaea quadricolor
clones to be had nowadays... try Marine Center, LiveAquaria... online companies
here. And lastly, if you have a quarantine/treatment tank, consider
"staging" the new animal for a few days to weeks ahead of its
placement in your main display tank... in the meanwhile, if possible with the
clownfish>
My PH is fairly high, and my ammonia level's safe. . . I use RO
water, and I do have a small detection of nitrates. Can you suggest
anything to help me out? On the powerhead front, I use two Maxi Jet
1200's on each end pointed toward the front, if that helps any. . .
<Do keep the intakes of these sufficiently screened>
Also, can you recommend any proprietors to use when shopping
for these creatures? Here in Memphis the selection is VERY limited. Thanks
for your time,
Gene Szucs
<Thank you for your apparent care and intelligent sharing. Bob Fenner>
Choosing an Anemone... go BTA for the Hardy Choice - 11/22/03
Hi Bob, how are ya?
<always traveling... Anthony Calfo in his stead>
I'm kinda of a novice to reef aquariums, been doing it about 9 months or so, but
doing OK so far. Been reading your stuff, and its just terrific to be
able to get insight on marine life from someone like you. Thank you!
<good to hear>
So here's my question: Which would you recommend (to someone who of
course has sufficient lighting, filtration, and environment): A
"peach" tube anemone (see pic) or a Rose bulb-tip anemone? (see 2nd
pic). Of course, I would like my clown to like the anemone, but
that's secondary to getting a specimen that has the best chance for survival and
overall good health for the long term.
<frankly, I would not recommend an anemone to any new aquarist... and no to
any aquarist that wishes to mix an anemone in any tank that does or will house
corals. Its a long term recipe for disaster. With that said, I with the right
species-specific set-up, I would recommend the Rose/Bubble/BTA anemone over
almost any other species every time. They are hardy, propagated in captivity and
overall good candidates>
Can you help, or is this too presumptuous a move for a relative novice like
myself???
<anemones are really quite a challenge for their strict lighting and feeding
needs, and motile nature. Most aquarists are not willing to invest in reef
lighting for only one anemone. Those that mix corals in with them often suffer
within a few years for the mix (motile stinging cnidarians and sessile ones are
unnatural and usually conflict in one of several ways). Much has been written
about this dynamic in our WWM archives and FAQs>
Thanks again Bob, I appreciate it. Sincerely, Dude!
<best of luck, Anthony>
Anemones
Hi,
Are there any species of anemone for a fish only aquarium. I have a blue and
white T8 fluorescent tube, can you suggest any? which will also be safe to house
an ocellaris clownfish?
Many Thanks Aaron.
<Hi Aaron, anemones are one of the more difficult reef creatures to keep, I
would not recommend any for your current set up. T8 bulbs are normal
output fluorescents and do not give off enough light to meet the anemones
requirements. They are also very sensitive creatures and should not
be added to a tank until the tank is well established, well established for many
months, to years. Check out the link below, and the related links at
the top of the page for more information. Best Regards, Gage
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm >
BTA vs. Coral 8/7/03
Hello crew,
<Howdy>
Thanks for all the helpful info on your site ! I have
a schweeet Bubble-Tip Anemone in my 110 gal reef tank
hosting a pair of maroon clowns. It tends to move in
and out of a small cave in the rock near the bottom.
<yes... quite precarious/dangerous thing about anemones if mixed with other
cnidarians (never recommended IMO... species tanks only)>
It also has a tendency to stretch out its tentacles to
the point where it looks more like a Long Tentacle
Anemone. I originally placed corals a good distance
away to give it some room.
<Ughhh... its just a matter of time. They will usually wait until you go on
vacation>
However, it has gotten to the point where it has grown and it stretches further
and further so it can touch an open brain coral that is (was) a good 6-8 inches
away. I have noticed occasional discoloring on the coral. Is this a result of
the anemone touching it ?
<quite likely... and it doesn't necessarily mean the anemone is winning...
both likely are suffering from the aggression/allelopathy>
Is it safe for any corals to be near it such as blasto's or frogspawn?
<unrelated corals should not be placed near each other>
Can I place corals near it without endangering either ?
<ahhh... no>
Also, on a different topic, what is the best sand sifter to eat the brown algae
in the substrate ?
<many possibilities... but I really like the Bullet/Dragon gobies>
Thanks in advance !
<best regards, Anthony>
-Better anemone?-
Hello I just got a carpet anemone, but after reading some of the chats on
your web site I'm going to take it back to the Fish Store and get a better
anemone. <You mean you don't want to have it fill up your entire tank and eat
all your fish? What's the matter with you?! ;) > |