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Fish ID.    10/8/14
Could you please identify a blenny and an angelfish? Pics attached.
<Mmm; the Angel appears to be a C. melanosoma:
The blenny... I need a bigger, better resolved pic of. Bob Fenner>

Help with angelfish ID 5/26/2010
Hello WWM crew.
I recently received the attached angelfish.
It came in Identified as Chaetodontoplus dimidiatus.
I thought it might be Chaetodontoplus melanosoma.
<Mmm, this specimen is 5-6 inches in length overall? Maturely coloured... More likely the latter, or>
It doesn't really look like either to me.
What do you think?
Thank you in advance.
Michael Stern
<Could be a cross... perhaps w/ Chaetodontoplus chrysocephalus. Bob Fenner>

Re: Help with angelfish ID 5/26/2010
It is apx 6"
Thanks for your help.
Always appreciated.
Michael Stern
<Thanks Mike... I do think this is either an aberrant individual or a cross. When you have some better pix, or if, please send them along and I'll ask Dr.s Randall and Allen re. BobF>

Re: Help with angelfish ID 5/30/2010
Mike: I forwarded your message to Jerry Allen as I think he may have the answer on this. Aloha, Jack
Aloha Jack. A hu'i hou! BobF

Re: Help with angelfish ID 5/27/10
I really need to get my hands on a better camera, but here's the best I've been able to do so far.
What do you think?
<Oh! The first pic looks more like C. melanosoma to me. B>
Thanks in advance.
Michael Stern
Jack... will you look at these pix of a Chaetodontoplus... give us your input re the likely species here?


Conspicillatus angelfish Hi, I am going to get a conspicillatus angel off the marine center in a month or so. I asked them the price they said something like 1900 dollars. I was reading your faq on Chaetodontoplus angels and you said 1300 was a lot. Now that seems 1900 is a lot. But I want to get it from the marine center since there fish are excellent quality. But I was wondering if you have any tips on keeping them, what are there requirements, etc. I want to know everything you know about them. I may seem stupid in fishes, but I have much experience in keeping angels. Thanks! <The price of such "show" specimens (with or w/o quotation marks) varies greatly... with size, country of origin, relative currency strength, availability... For such a large investment I would do a good deal of searching on the various BB's, chatforums re actual keepers of this species and its congeners... as well as asking the fine folks at Marine Center what their experience is with this individual and the species. What little personal experience I have is posted on WetWebMedia.com. You might want to use the Google Search feature for the genus, species there (on the homepage and indices). Bob Fenner>

Juvenile phase of scribbled angel? And Long Beach Get-together Dear Bob, or Steve, or Tony, or Dave - whoever is on duty <grin> <Bob for now> Can you guys answer a question for me about the Scribbled angel in the photo? <A very nice picture of a very nice juvenile specimen> The LFS said it is in it's adult phase already, yet I haven't seen any photos of an adult that looks like this. I suspect this little guy in in transition from juvenile to adult, but I just wanted to verify it with you. <Please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/chaetodonoplus/index.htm> Best regards and thanks for the FANTASTIC service you provide for all of us, happy holidays! Manuel Alvarez P.S. I noticed Bob is going to be at the Aquarium of the Pacific in Long Beach this Sunday... I have an annual pass there but I am not a member of MASLAC/ SCMAS/ SDMAS. Is that a function that I could attend? <Yes, all are invited. Please see the link at the bottom of our Daily FAQs page: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/daily_faqs.htm (any of the clubs acronym names) and do join us if you can. Bob Fenner>

My Sweet Angel...? What is the fish on the Marine Center logo on your website? It is bright yellow with black around eyes and looks like on the sides but the most remarkable thing is the bright blue lips. I have never seen this fish before it is beautiful. Hadley <I believe the fish that you're referring to is the Conspicillatus Angelfish, Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus. This is one of the most sought-after and beautiful angelfishes. It's not cheap, requires impeccable water conditions, but is an absolute stunner! Good luck if you are lucky enough to acquire this sweet fish! Regards, Scott F.>

Chaetodontoplus meredithi Queensland Yellow-Tail Angelfish... ID Black Velvet Angelfish (Chaetodontoplus melanosoma) has my vote 8/28/07 Hi Crew! <Hi Rhonda, Mich here.> I was out the other day and bought an Angel I was told was a Poma Angel. They said it wasn't eating because it just came in. <Careful.> I was leery but I loved the fish and bought it for 46.00. After a couple of hours on your site and fishbase.org and a couple of others I think it's not a Poma but a Queensland Yellow-Tail Angelfish. Please see pics. <I do not think this a Chaetodontoplus meredithi. I believe this is a Black Velvet Angelfish (Chaetodontoplus melanosoma) See a remarkable similar pic here: http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/PicturesSummary.cfm?StartRow=2&ID=10472&what=species > I have had it for 8 days now and she has taken 2 bites of Angel flakes and ate a few frozen krill. <Something is better than nothing. I would start by offering Spirulina and Mysid shrimp soaked in Selcon. Other marine Algae and high quality meaty foods may be offered as well.> Also she is very shy. Swims back and forth and around when I'm not in the room but hides in the corner when I enter. <Hopefully will become a little less timid with time, but needs to be in a passive tank with plenty of hiding places.> Should I be concerned about her not eating <I would keep an eye on, she may be picking from your LR as well.> and if it is a Yellow Tail I'm not sure what to feed her? Fish looks in perfect health. The body is like black velvet like I have never seen. Eyes are clear and focused. I have other fish I have bought and some never started eating for 2 weeks or more and then did fine. If it is a Queensland Yellow-Tail Angelfish is there any info I should know about its eating habits? I can't find out anything on these? <I do not think this is a Queensland Yellow-Tail Angelfish (Chaetodontoplus meredithi).> If it's out of my league would you know a worth so I could know what to trade for? <I believe this to be a Black Velvet Angelfish (Chaetodontoplus melanosoma), which are generally well suited for captive care.> I like the fish but I'm not use to Angels that are so shy and picky eaters. <Give this fish some time, and offer a variety of high quality foods, many swear by Pablo Tepoot's' Spectrum foods.> Thanks for any help. <Welcome! Mich> Rhonda Rick

Re: Chaetodontoplus meredithi Queensland Yellow-Tail Angelfish... Unrelated? Related? Fish Deaths 9/2/07 Thanks for your fast reply Mich! <Welcome!> It does look like a black velvet. Hard to tell. Other pics also look like it. I will try to send more so you can see better. I have a new and bigger problem now. Since this email my passer angel has died and my blue indigo??? <I'm sorry for you loss.> No apparent reason? I'm thinking a virus? No signs of parasites. <Was the Black Velvet angel placed in this tank with out QT? If so I would be concerned about a potential pathogen.> All levels are great 0 on everything except nitrates are 10 PPM. <Not high enough to be concerning, but lower is better.> The 2 fish went fast. I also have a red Coris wrasse in there and that's all that's left. <I'm sorry for your troubles. Hopefully the Black Velvet is in QT.> It's a 135-gallon tank. The problem I have is if all my levels are good how do I know I can put another fish in? <I would not be in a hurry.> I know with parasites you say leave empty for a month. <Yes, can be efficacious.> I would like to take the wrasse out and put in QT but in the past I have had a wrasse kill himself trying to bury at night. <You could add sand to the QT tank.> Is it possible I have electric current running through the tank and my fish were electrocuted? <I guess anything is possible.> How can I check for current running through it? You can use a "multi-meter" tester that measure down to the "milli" which you can find at you local hardware store.> I don't feel anything when I put my hand in? <Mmm, not the best way to test... What if you could!!!! You could have been seriously hurt or worse!!!!> If I leave the wrasse in and he lives for a month should I try another fish. <Always a risk.> Thanks for your help Mich! <You're welcome, not always helpful, but not for a lack of trying.>

Re: Chaetodontoplus meredithi Queensland Yellow-Tail Angelfish... Unrelated? Related? Fish Deaths 9/3/07 Thanks Mich! Yes the black velvet is in QT <I am very glad to hear.> and looks great but still no eating??? <May still be acclimating.> I QT everything is why I'm so confused about what killed the other 2 so fast with no symptoms? <Yes, I understand your confusion and I'm not really sure what to tell you other than I'm very glad to hear that you QT.> Yet the Coris wrasse looks great and is eating fine? <Good.> I went and bought a red ball sponge today hoping that will entice the black velvet to eat it??? <Mmm, I understand your thinking but would be very careful with such sponges.> Funny thing is he looks great! Very shy but getting better. <A good sign and a signal that s/he is still adjusting and may take some time.> How long can he go without eating? <A while, I know, is vague, but like humans, we can last while without food. Many fishes that are kept prior to shipping are withheld food so there is less of a chance of fouling the water in the shipping bag. This process can take a couple of weeks, just to give you an idea.> I was thinking about putting a 2-inch Koran with him for a while for social reasons that eats great? <Mmm, I think I would hold off on this for a bit. I think it might just add to the stress level.> I did not use my hand to check for current in the tank. <Heehee! Good!> I realized after I removed the sick fish I didn't feel anything. <I'm still thinking your hands were in the system!> Thanks for a Great website and help! <On behalf of Bob and the crew, you're welcome! Mich>

Oh yeah. RMF.

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