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FAQs on Hogfish Wrasses, Genera Bodianus, Lachnolaimus
Identification Related Articles: Hogfish Wrasses, Lachnolaimus
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Hogfish 2, Lachnolaimus
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Hogfish Behavior,
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Hogfish Selection, Hogfish Systems,
Hogfish Feeding, Hogfish
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Wrasses,
Wrasse Selection, Wrasse Behavior,
Wrasse Compatibility, Wrasse Feeding,
Wrasse Diseases,
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Hogfish I.D. (Bodianus perdito) 3/14/07
Hi Crew!
<Hi! How are ya?>
I have recently acquired this beautiful yellow hogfish.
<I see it.> <<Graham... where's the graphic? Need to move the original into the
"With Pix" folder... RMF>>
After reading
through your facts and consulting fishbase, I am still at a loss to identify the
him. He is currently living in my 950L tank. Any thoughts would be
appreciated. The local fish store just labeled him 'rare hogfish'.
<Sigh...>
That was
the best they had to offer. At least they could have tried and called him a
'purple spot hogfish' or something like that ;)
<At least they called him a hogfish at all. I prefer mysterious (not mystery)
wrasses to mislabeled. Seriously though, I'm 95% sure that this is a Bodianus
perdito, or the "Golden-Spot Hogfish". Wrasses do go through very many changes
through their live-cycles, but I'm still pretty sure on this one. One a side
note, this "little" guy is capable of almost three feet and will outgrow your
system in a few short years. I would think this guy would be bored and crowded
in anything less than 3000L. Hope you can plan for that.
-GrahamT>
Terri |
Re: Hogfish I.D. (Bodianus perdito) pt.2 3/14/07
Graham
<Terri, thank you for the follow-up. I even have a Q for you!>
Thank you for your reply. I do understand your concern that this critter
gets an appropriate sized home. I myself bang my head against a wall
daily explaining to people that seahorses cannot be kept in tiny
aquariums just because they move slowly. My smallest seahorse tank is 75
gallons! My 950L reef will evolve into another seahorse tank when I move
next month and the new aquarium, (or 'swimming pool' in my husbands
opinion), is delivered.
Just thought I would alleviate your concerns ;)
<Can you resend that graphic of the B. perdito? I forgot to place it
appropriately for placement on our website, and now it's lost.>
Terri
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Yellow Candy Hog, Bimaculatus same fish? 9/4/06
Hello Bob.
<James>
Another wrasse question: Are the Twospot, Bodianus bimaculatus and Yellow Candy
Hog the same fish?
<Yep>
I saw one at a LFS and am curious since the one they had was yellow with two
black spots (tail and I believe dorsal... but memory fading with looking at so
many pictures) and subdued pinkish striping running laterally. It was about 2.5
to 3 inches and I presume juvenile unless these are different fish.
<Is likely:
http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.php?ID=5499>
I have been spending some time on fish base and did a google search and have
pictures of both with the same name and others site have a yellow version only.
<Oh!>
I imagine the yellow is the younger version though there is no picture of yellow
version on fishbase.com.
<Not yet... maybe you'll send this in...>
More important is temperament for my tanks. Can this little beauty go into my
main tank with a Foxface (S. vulpinus), 2 cleaner shrimp, Flame Angel,
Checkerboard Christmas Wrasse (or ornate wrasse), firefish and royal gramma?
In there are also, various sponges, tunicates, mushroom, frogspawn colonies and
other lovely unknowns growing from the rock.
<Likely so...>
I would be inclined to set up another tank (as I like this fish enough to do so)
if need be. I recall a one wrasse to a tank rule of thumb.
Much thanks.
James Zimmer
<Individual variation may fine the existing Xmas Wrasse the problem... Bob
Fenner>
Re: fish identifications
Dear Robert:
I am a marine hobbyist for a few years. Recently I have seen a fish picture from a Japanese website but can not identify the fish. Do you know the scientific name of this fish? Does it have a common name? Please reply to my e-mail.
Regards,
<The first fish is a "Yellow Anthias", Odontanthias fuscipinnis (Jenkins 1901), info. placed here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anthiinFAQs.htm
the second is a Bodianus bimaculatus Allen 1973, the Twinspot or Yellow Hogfish which you can read about on the coverage of the genus on WetWebMedia.com as well. Bob Fenner>
Jeff |
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IDENTIFICATION OF WRASSE
I am having a very difficult time identifying the fish shown in the attached
photos. I believe it is a wrasse and would like to further identify it and
further research it. Any input you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.
<It's a washed-out Bodianus bimaculatus. See here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bodianus.htm
Bob Fenner>
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Jim |
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RE: IDENTIFICATION OF WRASSE
Thanks for your quick response. I might be a little washed out due to my
photographic skills. I appreciate your help.
<Could just be the specimen. Bob Fenner, who is for sure washed-out from micro-brews and
hot wings night last>
Regards,
Jim
Species ID, info (Bodianus spp.)
Recently purchased a fish that is virtually indiscernible from the fish
pictured on your site that you call a "Blackspot Hogfish" (Bodianus
opercularis). The wholesaler's invoice, however, identified it as B.
masudai. This is also the name given on the Marine Center website,
about the only e-tailer that ever offers it for sale.
<I see: http://www.themarinecenter.com/bodianusopercularis.htm
This is what I believe to be B. opercularis...>
I looked on the fishbase.org site and my fish bears much greater resemblance to
their photos of opercularis, so I am inclined to think the wholesalers (and the
Marine Center) are wrong,
<Me too. Fishbase: http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=23526&genusname=Bodianus&speciesname=masudai
(for B. masudai) and http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=25754&genusname=Bodianus&speciesname=opercularis
(for B. opercularis)>
especially since the invoice that accompanied my fish stated that it came from
Oceania-- not exactly specific, but B. masduai is only found in Japan according
to fishbase.org, while B. opercularis would logically be found in Oceania.
<This is correct. B. opercularis occurs from the Red Sea, in various places
of tropical Indian Ocean over to Christmas Island... its range with B. masudai
is distinct, does not overlap>
This is an important question for two reasons-- first, B. masudai must be
sub-tropical if it only comes from Japan, and therefore, I assume, will perish
in my 80 degree tank.
<Mmm, IS subtropical... according to Fishbase as well as logic (location)...
would try to keep temperature below 80 F>
On the other hand, masudai only attains a size of 12 cm, whereas you
list opercularis at a more gargantuan 9 inches (Fishbase claims 18cm max-- any
idea why your figure is higher?).
<Thanks for this... can't discern from my paltry notes on WWM (but/and am
soon to be "on to" the labrids (am on the labroids which are...
now,... the damsels)... for NMA v.2...)... can't recall or reason where I would
have come up with the nine inch maximum... About the biggest I've seen (Red Sea)
are six inches, and those in captivity even smaller. I suspect the 18 cm., about
seven inch maximum (or a fudge mark for "real" standard length) is
closer to reality>
In my case, "size matters" as well, since I've got it in a 90 gallon
reef, where it is, by all behavioral measures, a perfect fish at this
point. Any chance your 9 inch claim is (as they tend to be) an
exaggeration? 18 cm or less is much more to my liking.
<Ha! I suspect your fish will be fine, will "max. out" at a handful
(not two!) of inches>
Thanks again,
Derek Milne
<Thank you for writing. Let's go diving this next year (after Interzoo in
May... in the Red Sea) and measure them ourselves! Bob Fenner>
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