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FAQs on Hogfish Wrasses, Genera Bodianus, Lachnolaimus
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Fish identification 8/9/09
Hello WWM crew!
<Pedro>
I purchased this fish but I can't remember the name now. I was hoping
you could ID it for me.
<... see here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/bodianus/index.htm>
Thanks
Peter
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
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Help with Hogfish ID 2/10/09 Hi WWM Crew, <Tom>
I have this "Peppermint Hog" on hold at the LFS, and am trying to
figure out exactly what it is. <Bodianus masudai> I've been
Googling and it looks mostly like B. masudai or B. opercularis to
me, but could you give a look and see if you can tell from this
photo? There is a third white stripe, lower on the side, that's not
real visible in the photo. What is the difference between these
similar species? <Mmm, the boldness, darkness of the red
stripes... and smaller white ones... of the latter for me.> In
researching this fish I'm also looking for compatibility issues. We
have a small group of four Bartlett's Anthias in a 135G reef setup,
do you see any potential issues with this hogfish? Thanks,
Tom <Likely will get along. Welcome. Bob Fenner> |
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Re: Help with Hogfish ID 2/11/09 Hi Bob,
I'm thankful for your advice. <Am grateful to render my opinion>
I'm seeing info on WWM and Fishbase that describes the B. masudai as
a subtropical species, so maybe it's not such a good fit for our
tropical (81-82F) reef tank - is this your opinion also? Thanks,
Tom <I think you are fine here. Have seen this Labrid kept in
tropical circumstances successfully. BobF> |
What type of Wrasse is this? 10/11/08 Hi there,
Fantastic site. <Thank you.> I recently bought a Wrasse which
was incorrectly labeled in the store as a Leopard Wrasse.
<Indeed.> I can’t, for the life of me, find what type of Wrasse I
have bought, even after sifting through what seems like 100's of
wrasse images on the Internet. Any help would be appreciated. (image
attached) Knowing will obviously help me ensure any future purchases
are compatible with this little gem! Cheers Theo--- <It does
appear to be a Bodianus bimaculatus, Twinspot or Yellow Hogfish, a
beautiful fish! Visit
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=5499 for more
info. Scott V.> |
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Hogfish I.D. (Bodianus perdito) 3/14/07 Hi Crew! <Hi! How
are ya?> I have recently acquired this beautiful yellow hogfish.
<I see it.> <<Graham... where's the graphic? Need to move the original
into the "With Pix" folder... RMF>> After reading through your
facts and consulting fishbase, I am still at a loss to identify the him.
He is currently living in my 950L tank. Any thoughts would be
appreciated. The local fish store just labeled him 'rare hogfish'.
<Sigh...> That was the best they had to offer. At least they
could have tried and called him a 'purple spot hogfish' or something
like that ;) <At least they called him a hogfish at all. I prefer
mysterious (not mystery) wrasses to mislabeled. Seriously though, I'm
95% sure that this is a Bodianus perdito, or the "Golden-Spot Hogfish".
Wrasses do go through very many changes through their live-cycles, but
I'm still pretty sure on this one. One a side note, this "little" guy is
capable of almost three feet and will outgrow your system in a few short
years. I would think this guy would be bored and crowded in anything
less than 3000L. Hope you can plan for that. -GrahamT> Terri |
Re: Hogfish I.D. (Bodianus perdito) pt.2 3/14/07 Graham
<Terri, thank you for the follow-up. I even have a Q for you!>
Thank you for your reply. I do understand your concern that this
critter gets an appropriate sized home. I myself bang my head
against a wall daily explaining to people that seahorses cannot be
kept in tiny aquariums just because they move slowly. My smallest
seahorse tank is 75 gallons! My 950L reef will evolve into another
seahorse tank when I move next month and the new aquarium, (or
'swimming pool' in my husbands opinion), is delivered. Just
thought I would alleviate your concerns ;) <Can you resend that
graphic of the B. perdito? I forgot to place it appropriately for
placement on our website, and now it's lost.> Terri
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Yellow Candy Hog, Bimaculatus same fish? 9/4/06 Hello
Bob. <James> Another wrasse question: Are the Twospot, Bodianus
bimaculatus and Yellow Candy Hog the same fish? <Yep> I saw one
at a LFS and am curious since the one they had was yellow with two black
spots (tail and I believe dorsal... but memory fading with looking at so
many pictures) and subdued pinkish striping running laterally. It was
about 2.5 to 3 inches and I presume juvenile unless these are different
fish. <Is likely:
http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.php?ID=5499>
I have been spending some time on fish base and did a google search and
have pictures of both with the same name and others site have a yellow
version only. <Oh!> I imagine the yellow is the younger version
though there is no picture of yellow version on fishbase.com. <Not
yet... maybe you'll send this in...> More important is temperament
for my tanks. Can this little beauty go into my main tank with a Foxface
(S. vulpinus), 2 cleaner shrimp, Flame Angel, Checkerboard Christmas
Wrasse (or ornate wrasse), firefish and royal gramma? In there are
also, various sponges, tunicates, mushroom, frogspawn colonies and other
lovely unknowns growing from the rock. <Likely so...> I would be
inclined to set up another tank (as I like this fish enough to do so) if
need be. I recall a one wrasse to a tank rule of thumb. Much thanks.
James Zimmer <Individual variation may fine the existing Xmas Wrasse
the problem... Bob Fenner>
Re: fish identifications Dear Robert: I am a marine
hobbyist for a few years. Recently I have seen a fish picture from a
Japanese website but can not identify the fish. Do you know the
scientific name of this fish? Does it have a common name? Please
reply to my e-mail. Regards, <The first fish is a "Yellow
Anthias", Odontanthias fuscipinnis (Jenkins 1901), info. placed
here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anthiinFAQs.htm the second is a
Bodianus bimaculatus Allen 1973, the Twinspot or Yellow Hogfish
which you can read about on the coverage of the genus on
WetWebMedia.com as well. Bob Fenner> Jeff |
IDENTIFICATION OF WRASSE I am having a very difficult time
identifying the fish shown in the attached photos. I believe it is a
wrasse and would like to further identify it and further research it.
Any input you can provide would be greatly appreciated. <It's a
washed-out Bodianus bimaculatus. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bodianus.htm Bob Fenner> Thanks in
advance for your help. Regards, Jim | 
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RE: IDENTIFICATION OF WRASSE Thanks for your quick response. I
might be a little washed out due to my photographic skills. I
appreciate your help. <Could just be the specimen. Bob Fenner, who is
for sure washed-out from micro-brews and hot wings night last>
Regards, Jim Species ID, info (Bodianus spp.)
Recently purchased a fish that is virtually indiscernible from the fish
pictured on your site that you call a "Blackspot Hogfish" (Bodianus
opercularis). The wholesaler's invoice, however, identified it as B.
masudai. This is also the name given on the Marine Center website,
about the only e-tailer that ever offers it for sale. <I see:
http://www.themarinecenter.com/bodianusopercularis.htm This is
what I believe to be B. opercularis...> I looked on the fishbase.org
site and my fish bears much greater resemblance to their photos of
opercularis, so I am inclined to think the wholesalers (and the Marine
Center) are wrong, <Me too. Fishbase:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=23526&genusname=Bodianus&speciesname=masudai
(for B. masudai) and
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=25754&genusname=Bodianus&speciesname=opercularis
(for B. opercularis)> especially since the invoice that accompanied
my fish stated that it came from Oceania-- not exactly specific, but B.
masduai is only found in Japan according to fishbase.org, while B.
opercularis would logically be found in Oceania. <This is correct. B.
opercularis occurs from the Red Sea, in various places of tropical
Indian Ocean over to Christmas Island... its range with B. masudai is
distinct, does not overlap> This is an important question for two
reasons-- first, B. masudai must be sub-tropical if it only comes from
Japan, and therefore, I assume, will perish in my 80 degree tank.
<Mmm, IS subtropical... according to Fishbase as well as logic
(location)... would try to keep temperature below 80 F> On the
other hand, masudai only attains a size of 12 cm, whereas you list
opercularis at a more gargantuan 9 inches (Fishbase claims 18cm max--
any idea why your figure is higher?). <Thanks for this... can't
discern from my paltry notes on WWM (but/and am soon to be "on to" the
labrids (am on the labroids which are... now,... the damsels)... for NMA
v.2...)... can't recall or reason where I would have come up with the
nine inch maximum... About the biggest I've seen (Red Sea) are six
inches, and those in captivity even smaller. I suspect the 18 cm., about
seven inch maximum (or a fudge mark for "real" standard length) is
closer to reality> In my case, "size matters" as well, since I've got
it in a 90 gallon reef, where it is, by all behavioral measures, a
perfect fish at this point. Any chance your 9 inch claim is (as they
tend to be) an exaggeration? 18 cm or less is much more to my liking.
<Ha! I suspect your fish will be fine, will "max. out" at a handful (not
two!) of inches> Thanks again, Derek Milne <Thank you for
writing. Let's go diving this next year (after Interzoo in May... in the
Red Sea) and measure them ourselves! Bob Fenner>
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