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FAQs on the Ctenophorans, Scyphozoans and Hydrozoans called Jellyfishes 2

Related Articles: Jellyfishes, Scyphozoans, Hydrozoan Jellies, Hydrozoans, Cnidarians,

Related FAQs: Jellies 1, Jelly Identification, Jelly Behavior, Jelly Compatibility, Jelly Selection, Jelly Systems, Jelly Feeding, Jelly Disease, Jelly Reproduction,

Scyphozoa Question 6/16/08
Hi,
<Greg>
I have discovered that I have what appears to be several jellyfish (Scyphozoans) in an aquarium I use for experiments.
<I saw a bunch of settled Ctenophores in shops this last wknd. in Phoenix. Okay, your turn>
The system (less than 1 gallon) is unfiltered with no outside inputs except for a very  small amount of air from an air stone. I had ordered some rotifers about a year ago and placed them in the system.
<Ahh!>
They did not last very long. I cleaned off some algae from the side of the system recently and noticed jellyfish that are about 2 mm maximum in size.
I am assuming jellyfish eggs or planula came in the rotifers batch I received last year.
<Likely so>
Their locomotion is identical to larger jellies.
They have a clear/translucent bell, some reddish/maroon color inside the bell and translucent tentacles or oral arms.
<Neato>
Have you ever heard of captive jellyfish outside of a large institutional (city/corporate) aquarium?
<Oh yes... in fact, a friend, Jim Stime, makes/sells Jelliquariums... and I saw some very nice, much cheaper models a couple weeks back at the Interzoo show in Germany... it's a biz>
Do you know of sources I could use to identify these guys?
<Mmm... am referring you to Jim Stime here... you can also reach him via Jelliquarium (.com)>
I cannot provide a picture easily. They are too small for my camera equipment.
<Macro settings, large file size... cropping...>
--
Thank you,
Greg S. Hurley
<Ahh! Had a fine H.S. Geometry instructor with your family name here in San Diego... years back! Cheers! Bob Fenner>


Re: Scyphozoa Question 6/16/08
Hello Gregg and Bob,
The jellyfish portion of the hobby is just now becoming possible. As such there is very little information available... but its increasing.
I have kept, for only a short time, Ctenophores, but have not been involved with their reproductive cycle. Moon jellyfish are the most common and have the greatest amount of research and information available. These are the pale white discs with short fringe tentacles around the rim and the familiar four-leaf clover pattern within the bell.
Most jellies have a polyp stage where the medusa strobilates or a-sexually buds off from the oral disc portion of the polyp. Once the juvenile has freed himself he is now called an Ephyra. It takes another 60+ days to raise these jellies to 2 or 3 inches.
Here is a short video of my jellyfish production system >>
http://www.lafishguys.com/midwater/JellyNursery001.htm <<
Based on your comment about " some reddish/maroon color inside the bell " I suspect what you are either seeing the food stuff brought up into the stomach of a Moon jelly species or you may possibly have a species of Sea Nettle, Chryasora species. These tend to have much longer tentacles... and ones that sting too.
Aside from the Upside-down Jellyfish all other species typically require a tank that keeps the jellies suspended once they have bud-off from the polyp. Here is an article I wrote on the process >>
http://www.jelliquarium.com/DocumentPage.aspx?id=1034 <<
There are only a few good books available on jellies. Most are written for 4th graders. Let me know if I can help you further.
Jim Stime, Jr.
805-241-7140
Aquarium Design www.aquarium-design.com
MyFishTank.com www.myfishtank.com
Midwater Systems www.jelliquarium.com
LA Fishguys www.lafishguys.com
<Ahh! Thank you Jim. BobF>

Re: Scyphozoa Question 6/16/08
Hi Bob,
>> I saw some very nice, much cheaper models a couple weeks back at the
Interzoo show in Germany... <<
Can you tell me anything about these systems ?
<I picked/saved up some lit to give you I picked up... just got to find it again!!! BobF>
Jim Stime, Jr.
Most impt.... they were very nice... and cheap... like about a fourth of yours in cost... Trouble if they're offered in your mkt. for shore. B.

Re: Scyphozoa Question 6/16/08
Bob and Jim,
<Mr. H.>
Thanks for the info. I think I might have to get into jellyfish.
Sounds like a fun new challenge.
<Are indeed>
Thank you,
Greg S. Hurley
<Welcome Greg. BobF>

DIY Food  3/23/07
Hi Bob.
<Hello Brandon in Bob's stead.>
I have been making my own DIY food.
<Cool.>
I have put in sliced and fresh jellyfish in it.
<Hmmm.  What kind of grocery store do you have in town?>
Blend it with all the other food. Some said that jellyfish is not in the diet of fish and corals so I was wondering if it will cause any harm.
<This is sort of true.  There are fish that will eat them such as the Banner Fish, Arrow Crabs have bee known to eat them as well as certain other fish and snails.>
I only considered the addition of jellyfish after looking up for its nutritional value. It is part of the diet of sea turtle.
<This is true.>
Is it all right to have jellyfish as part of the diet for fish and corals?
<I would not be concerned with the addition.  I would watch the fishes after I fed it to them looking for abnormal behavior.  Brandon.>

Keeping upside-down jellies    4/10/06
Hey, you guys are awesome! There is so much info on your site, I could look at this stuff all day long--and almost have!  I have a question about upside-down
jellies. I take care of a 125 gallon tank with 8 jellies in it.  The company that owns this tank has a budget on how much they can spend on the tank so
they don't have the best set-up for it--they went the cheap route.
<If it works...>
  I am looking into getting new equipment for this tank, tell me, if you had a 125 gallon tank with 8 jellies, what would you get for the tank?
<...? Lighting, filtration?>
I've been researching non-stop in books and on the internet to get as many opinions as I can and you guys seem to know your stuff! So, to be specific: What kind of
substrate would you have, would you have any plants?
<Soft, fine coral sand... and yes... vascular plants from the same area as this species... might be able to be collected...>
Would you have a protein skimmer, how about a UV sterilizer?
<Yes to the skimmer, not likely a UV>
How about the lights, what would be the best lights for them?
<T-5 fluorescents likely...>
What and how much would you feed them and how often would you feed them?
<Depends on the species... are these Cassiopeia? http://jellieszone.com/captivejellies.htm>
And lastly, I have been having a red/brown algae problem-- it is like a sheet of algae over the top of the substrate. I stir it up daily
and that seems to help for awhile--until the next day and I have to do it again.  I've been researching ways to treat the stuff, but I am so skeptical
because I don't want to harm them and I know how sensitive and delicate they are. Thank you so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated!
Candace
<... See WWM re controlling BGA. Bob Fenner>

Tiny Jellyfish   2/23/06
Hi Guys!
<Lesley>
Hope you are keeping well - it's been a while since I last contacted you so I hope you are all ok.
<I am, thanks>
Two days ago, in the smaller of our two marine tanks, I noticed three, tiny white jellyfish-type critters - literally, the mushroom shape, but
no tentacles - quite "stiff" in structure and jerky in movement as opposed to the more fluid, typical jellyfish. They were about 2mm - 3mm
in diameter and were "swimming" around the tank being ignored by the fishy occupants.  I think they're cute! Anyway, today, I counted 7 of
these tiny critters, varying in size from about 1mm to 3mm across the top of the "mushroom". I still think they're cute but have no idea what
they actually are or where they came from as we haven't added anything new to the tank for several months.  I wondered if you could help. Sorry
the description is so vague. Also, they are too small to photograph clearly.  
Any light you can shed on this would be most appreciated!
Many thanks!
Lesley Saxton
<There are quite a few Scyphozoan and Hydrozoan medusoid animals that can strobilize from hard surfaces introduced in our marine systems... Use these terms in your search tools... and you'll see. Bob Fenner>

Upside-Down Jellies   2/23/06
Hey, you guys are awesome! There is so much info on your site, I could look at this stuff all day long--and almost have!  I have a question about upside-down
jellies. I take care of a 125 gallon tank with 8 jellies in it.  The company that owns this tank has a budget on how much they can spend on the tank so
they don't have the best set-up for it--they went the cheap route.  I am looking into getting new equipment for this tank, tell me, if you had a 125
gallon tank with 8 jellies, what would you get for the tank?
<...? Please see the new: Jelliquarium.com site here>
I've been researching non-stop in books and on the internet to get as many opinions as I can and you guys seem to know your stuff!
<Do you have the works of Dave Wrobel? Search re his name...>
So, to be specific: What kind of substrate would you have, would you have any plants? Would you have a protein skimmer, how about a UV sterilizer?  How about the lights, what would be the best lights for them? What and how much would you feed them and how often would you feed them? And lastly, I have been having a red/brown alga problem--
it is like a sheet of alga over the top of the substrate. I stir it up daily and that seems to help for awhile--until the next day and I have to do it
again.  I've been researching ways to treat the stuff, but I am so skeptical because I don't want to harm them and I know how sensitive and delicate they
are. Thank you so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated!
Candace
<Keep searching, reading... Bob Fenner>

Baby jellies... or some other creature?   1/4/06
Hi crew,
<Chris>
   Sheesh. I had to get creative to photograph these critters. I snagged one with an eyedropper, placed it in a water drop on
a slide, and popped it into my $20 National Geographic 'scope. After removing the eyepiece shield, I was able to snap a few
photos of reasonable enough quality for ID purposes... I hope.
<Neat>
These pics are slightly out of focus, but the best I could get and still get the whole thing. (‘scope/lens/user? limitations)
I've seen some dozens of these, over the past few days, in my 55G saltwater tank. I'm seeing fewer lately, due to losses in
my power heads and/or filtration, I suppose. (Or predation?)
<A combo. no doubt>
I didn’t notice them today, until swishing around my LR with a turkey baster... blowing off some food that had “settled”.
(Perhaps these had “settled” too... and I stirred them up?)
<Likely so>
Anyhow, they look for all the world like mini-jellyfish of some sort, though I couldn't imagine from whence they came. My only
recent addition is a 6" ball of Caulerpa Racemosa from my QT.
(Note that this QT also contains assorted amphipods, worms, and other tiny marine life that has accumulated over time)
The Caulerpa had been in the QT for three weeks.
<Mmm, are some sort of medusoid life>
Most are about the size of this period. (Some are a bit larger)
The photos show the rest of my observation. At "rest", they’re full of water, their "valve" is closed, and you can see a few
small protrusions between the two dark spots at the valve end. To move, they appear to expel water through the “valve”, and
they contract axially, while extending longitudinally.
(Moving away from the “valve” end, of course)
<Yes>
Enough of my rambling, I suppose. Please edit and ditch any irrelevant babbling as you see fit. I won’t mind.
Do these look like anything you’ve seen before?
<Mmm, yes... juvenile "jellies" of some sort (Scyphozoans, Hydrozoans) or ctenophorans...>
Feel free to whack me in the head with a book of your choice, if these are something very common that I should’ve found on
a simple web search. (I looked, but perhaps not hard enough) Tell me if you need more info, tank specs/inhabitants, etc...
Thanks in advance,  
Chris
<I wouldn't be overly concerned re these being in your system... likely "strobilized" from the new algae... or some other substrate. Will pass with time. Bob Fenner>

Comb Jellyfish  12/13/05
Hi Bob,
<Jimbo>
Quick note. See attached picture
<Nice>
The jellyfish product line keeps growing. I just received a shipment of Comb Jellies out of Key West last week.
<How old are most comb jellies? Most are in their teens (Ctenophora)>
Under the MH their fine rows of hairs reflect the light in a UFO landing strip type light show.
Awesome !
Jim Stime, jr.
Resplendent Group
Aquarium Design www.aquarium-design.com
MyFishTank.com www.myfishtank.com
Midwater Systems www.jelliquarium.com
Centropyge.Net www.centropyge.net
MACNA X www.masla.com/macnax.html
<Beauty. Bob Fenner sans list>

Jellyfish System 9/20/05
hi Bob,
<Jimbo>
well, it is the night before i drive out to Las Vegas for the Super Zoo
pet trade show to exhibit the JelliQuarium. i hope i have everything packed  :)
<Me too!>
i have not had much of a chance to get all the Jellyfish things together
that we spoke of as i have been buzy getting everything for the trade
show squared away but i do want to get some stuff to you.
i am working on the advertisement for both FAMA and Aquarium Fish
Magazine. you were correct about FAMA's circulation being down, its
around 10,000/ mth, AFM is up around 50,000/ mth. i asked for Susan
Steele but she was not around. i am working with Craig Horowitz.
<Good... I called re Sue... s/w Alicia Jordan... who is heading up FAMA...
said Sue had "not elected" to move down... was consulting somewhat... I'd
call Bowtie/Fancy corp. and s/w Alicia re who in turn to speak with>
the scientific article written by Kevin Raskof i mentioned is attached
as a PDF. it is a great article.
<Will take a look/see>
also attached are pictures i took of the various stages of growing Moon
Jellyfish, Aurelia aurita....
<Very nice>
2027 polyps
2031 polyps
2039  sm jelly
2040  two sm jellies
2058  current holding / growing system
2077 ephyra  ( babies )
2078 ephyra  ( babies )
2097 mastigias papua sp.
2098 mastigias papua sp.
have a great time in Kona next month, i will be thinking of you in
paradise  :)
<And joining me soon I hope/trust. BobF>
Jim Stime, jr.
Resplendent Group
Aquarium Design  <http://www.aquarium-design.com/>
www.aquarium-design.com
MyFishTank.com  <http://www.myfishtank.com/> www.myfishtank.com
Midwater Systems  <http://www.jellyfishtanks.com/>
www.jellyfishtanks.com
Centropyge.Net  <http://www.centropyge.net/> www.centropyge.net
MACNA X  <http://www.masla.com/macnax.html> www.masla.com/macnax.html





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