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FAQs about Mussid Corals 2
Related Articles: Mussid Corals,
Related FAQs: Mussid FAQs 1,
Mussid Identification,
Mussid Behavior,
Mussid Compatibility,
Mussid Selection,
Mussid Disease,
Mussid Systems,
Mussid Feeding,
Mussid Reproduction,
Stony/True Coral,
Coral System Set-Up, Coral
System Lighting, Stony Coral
Identification, Stony Coral Selection, Coral
Placement, Foods/Feeding/Nutrition,
Disease/Health, Propagation,
Growing Reef Corals, Stony
Coral Behavior,
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Micromussa 02/220/2208
Hi Crew,
<<G'Morning. Andrew today>>
I just bought a Micromussa from a fellow hobbyist. I first read about them and
did not find much. I also asked the seller and was told that he feeds
it Cyclopeeze a couple times a week. I have 65w PC 10k for a 10 gallon setup. I
am hoping it will be as easy as my candy canes. Any input would
be appreciated.
<<A relatively easy coral to look after, likes medium flow, and you may have to
place this coral higher up in the aquarium as they do not like strong lit
aquariums, but I feel your lighting could be lacking a little punch for this
coral to thrive. Feeding this once a week is fine on Mysis or Cyclopeeze>>
On a different subject, I have some observations of my Neon goby and a Six line
wrasse. They are both quick but the Six line is boss. Most of the time they swim
around with no interaction. I do not know where the wrasse sleeps but the goby
has a hole in the rock that is in the top of a cave like area. When he is
resting during the day he is attached to the top of the cave upside down. Every
once in a while the wrasse chases to goby back to his cave and just sits there
as if to block him from going out. And then they both go back to doing their own
thing including swimming by each other as if they are best friends. It is like
they are playing tag every once and a while.
<<The wrasse is known to be aggressive, the amount dependant on the species, so,
I see the above as the wrasse showing this aggression and I would not expect it
to ease at all>>
Thanks, Sam
<<Thanks for the questions, A Nixon>>
Acan + reef recovery 2/7/07
Dear Mr. Fenner,
Thanks for your help with the disaster that I had with the heater in
October. Since then the tank has made an amazing recovery. Most of my mushrooms
are coming back, and the star polyps are looking better than ever. The best
part is the company that makes the heater (the one that fried every thing) gave
me $500 to refund everything that died. You probably remember my tank, but I
will refresh your memory anyway.
I have a 20 gal. long tank with 130watts. of pc lighting, a CPR BakPak skimmer
with pre filter, an Aquaclear 200 box filter, and 2 zoo med
<Capitalized...>
rotating power heads(160 and 190 gal/hr.). My surviving livestock is as
follows.
2 ocellaris clowns
1 yellow tailed blue damsel
several colonies of star polyps
several small mushrooms
1 small hairy mushroom used to be 6 in. but is coming back)
1 Ricordea mushroom
1 xenia
several different types of macro algae
<All in a 20?>
15 or so blue leg hermit crabs
15 pounds of liverock
I have added the following corals since everything started getting better.
1 large colony of about 17 hairy mushrooms
1 orange plate coral
1 colony of green Zoanthus ( I am not entirely sure that they are Zoanthus)
Everything looks great, and the live rock looks better than ever!
I just ordered a beautiful green and blue Acanthastrea hillae from
liveaquaria.com, and was wondering about its care?
<Mmm...>
I have looked both on Wetwebmedia and on Google but couldn't find much on it,
other than that it is a hardy, easy to keep coral. I know the basics, but would
like to know how to really care for it( placement,feeding,growth rate, etc.).
<Spaces...>
Sometime soon I would like to send you a picture of my tank so you can see
it.
<Please do>
I would probably do this after I have the Acan. Thanks for all the help.
Michael
P.S. Michael's mother appreciates the grammar and spelling corrections.
<Ah, good. I would follow the suggestions posted for the family:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mussidae.htm
and the files linked above. Bob Fenner>
Cynarina...No Place To Rest - 04/27/05
I have recently purchased a large red Cynarina that has a deep cone shaped bottom (4 inches from the wide part of the base to the tip). I have a shallow sand bed (~2 inches deep), and I am not able to bury the base in the sand so that the coral is flush with the sand. It is lying on it's side propped up with a piece of rubble. Will it be OK like this? I don't know how it will be able to expand and "Spread out" over the sand bed like my smaller one does. Thanks! Sherry
< Hi Sherry! Why don't you try building a corral on the sand bed with some small rock bits and add some sand to create a special "bed" for your new friend? Eric R. >
Cynarina In Shallow Sand Bed II - 04/28/05
I will try the small rocks to keep the sand in place. I have 2 Seio 1100's along with my return pump (1050 GPH) and a MJ 1200 for water movement in the tank, which is a 125 gallon. Although the flow is pretty gentle where the
Cynarina is placed, the sand I tried to mound around the base keeps getting moved away.
< This is to be expected, hence the need for some type of barrier to corral the sand. >
I can use the front and side glass as a barrier, and put some rocks on the other side and back of the coral to see if that works.
< you're not limited to using rocks, though this will give a more natural appearance. Another thought is to sink a suitably sized container (plastic/glass) in the existing sand bed, fill the container with sand, and then disguise the container with the rockwork. >
Thanks :)
< Welcome, Eric R. > Scolymia
I have a Scolymia in my 29 gallon reef aquarium. I have had him for about five months, and he doesn't seem to be acting like he used to. I feed him frozen krill. His mouth opens up when he is hungry, but lately, he is
constantly keeping it open. After I place a creel in his mouth, he does not want to eat it anymore. He looks a lot skinnier in the mouth area than he usually did. He used to be big and plump in the middle.
Some additional products I add to the tank is Chromaplex, Zooplex, Iodine, Reef Buster, and
PhytoPlex. I also have exceptional lighting
(Coralife light). What can be making the Scolymia act the way he has been lately? Also, are there any other helpful hints I may need to know about the
Scolymia eating habits.
<How large are the krill you're feeding? If you're feeding whole krill, then the animal is probably declining from starvation. Feeding such large portions is unnatural, and is not usually digestible by any
Cnidarian. They engulf it, for sure, but expel it later, and acquire virtually nothing from the food item. Feed small minced portions no larger than 1\4" across, and VARY the diet! Try
Mysis, prepared foods, scallops, fish,
Cyclop-Eeze, etc. Also, soak the food in a HUFA\OMEGA3 supplement such as Selcon>
Thank you,
<You're welcome, and good luck!>
Holly
<M. Maddox>
What Coral?
Hi Bob,
I am hoping that you can help with the identification of this coral.
The hobbyist who has had a very healthy colony for the last 10 years,
insists that it is a "brain coral".
He also has a sister colony from it.
I have looked in several books but not found it.
Thanks for your help.
All the best,
Iggy
<Mmm, a Mussid for sure, likely a Lobophyllia species. Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mussids2.htm
Bob Fenner> |
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Coral Frag Question 4/1/05
I have a question about a coral frag. I am new to coral fragging and
farming. I have a question about a specific coral frag I just received. I just
got a very rare color form of an Acanthastrea echinata coral.
<Rare is a relative term... it usually means "sucker" BTW (nefarious marketing
by unscrupulous vendors.>
The frag is only about 1/2" wide. It is on a rock that is about 3/4" wide and
about 3/4" tall. I need to get the coral to grow on other pieces of rock, but
I'm not sure what the best approach is.
<Feed it heavily. I target feed my Acans and they double every 2-3 weeks! It is
one of the fastest and hardiest corals available. The sales of such fast growing
corals at high prices is just embarrassing>
If I set this rock containing the frag on another rock, the frag won't actually
touch the bigger rock as it would sit about 3/4" taller than the bigger rock.
What would be the best way to position this frag rock to get the Acanthastrea to
spread since it is not on a flat piece of rock? Thanks.
<I literally grow mine as free living polyps on oolitic sand. I target feed them
daily, and they double almost twice monthly. For more info on the price gouging
sellers of these corals... do read my "Reef Trendy" article in February
reefkeeping.com e-zine. Kindly, Anthony>
Lobophyllia tissue recession 3/31/05
Hello, I have a Lobophyllia spp. For 2 months and never has been very healthy, firstly started with a small body reduction in the upper part (it was inclined in the aquarium) so I moved it down. But 2 weeks ago it started to have a severe body depletion, I have read different articles about corals, bleaching etc and I would like to know if I should move it down a bit more or any other tip. Thanks very much.
<"Tissue recession" is the most common term for this. Bleaching refers to the loss of Zooxanthellae (symbiotic algae) and color from otherwise normal healthy tissue.
Lobophyllia is quite adaptable to different lighting conditions, but in my experience it is quite sensitive to water quality and the defensive chemicals produced by other corals. I would suggest thoroughly testing your water and making sure the following
parameters are in the proper range: pH 8.0-8.4, Alkalinity 2.75-4.0 mEq (9-12 dKH), Salinity 1.025, Calcium 350-450, temp 79-82. If you have soft corals (especially leathers or mushrooms), it would be a good idea to run small amounts of carbon and change it weekly and perform 20% monthly water changes. Best Regards!
AdamC.>
Symphyllia recta Brain Coral
Hi
I'm getting conflicting information on what the best conditions are for Symphyllia recta. I have bought a piece and placed it quite high up in the
tank on a flat piece of live rock. I have put it high up as I was told it needs strong light and I have T5's rather than halides (too expensive on the
electricity). So the brain coral is about 4-5 inches from the water surface. I know some corals need to placed on sand - is this the case with
this coral - it looks a little awkward.
<These corals are usually found on the mid levels on reefs.>
Otherwise what about water flow - moderate is what I thought.
<You need 10x tank volume total flow.>
I feed all my coral by putting a phytoplankton/coral food type stuff straight into the water - a little twice
a day. Will this coral need direct feeding and if so what should I feed it and
when?
<Feeding twice a day is a little much, adds excess nutrients to the system. These corals do produce most of their food, but weekly supplemental feedings will aid in maintaining the coral.>
Sorry to ask so many basic questions, I can't find out much on this coral and the two so called experts and the aquarium shops gave me
contradictory info. I can't find much on your website.
<I did a Google search and came up with all sorts of hits.>
Also I need some advice on a bubble anemone. My LFS has a bubble anemone which was found under a rock - where it had been trapped for a while and has
seemingly lost it's colour. It still seems quite healthy and I have seen it eat ( a bit of squid or something). The LFS is willing to sell it very
cheaply as it is now a white bubble anemone rather than green! If I buy it and put it in my aquarium is there any chance it will recover given good
lighting and feeding?
<You don't want to get into that>
I have a maroon clown so it may be a good home for him. By the way how do you get a clown to take to an anemone - It hasn't
taken to anything yet.
<Maroon clowns prefer the Ritteri, bubble and long tentacle, in that order of preference. No guarantee any clown is going to take to an anemone though.>
The lighting in the LFS is just ordinary fluorescents - so the anemone is pretty doomed if it stays there anyway. Is it wise to keep an anemone with corals?
<Better not to>
( I have mostly soft corals, African tree, mushrooms, xenia etc.) Finally just a quick question: I am planning (dreaming) of building a much
bigger aquarium - fish only. What is the most important dimension to keep bigger fish, is it length of the tank - or height or depth, from front to
back. Or is it more a matter of having as many gallons as possible. I'm
thinking in terms of a 6ft long by 3ft high by 20inch (front to back) wide tank for housing tangs, trigger fish etc - would putting a really big sump
on this be crucial - or is swimming space most important.
<The area of the tank is more important than height. I'd just size the sump for the tank in mind.>
Just realized I wrote a hugely long e-mail - thanks for any help you can give me.
<James (Salty Dog)>
Saving Lobophyllia (not Silverman) 10/3/04
I hope all is well with you today.
<and with hope for you in kind>
I do need some help in saving my Lobophyllia. My flame angel was nipping at it
continuously and causing it to recede to not much more than a skeleton. Since I
have a 180g tank with much
live rock, catching the flame angel was nearly impossible until I recently moved
and had to drain the tank. Since that time the Lobophyllia has expanded from
about 2.5” in diameter to over 7”!
Just when I thought all was perfect (for over a month), now my purple tang has
apparently grown to love the taste of the Lobophyllia.
<heehee...>
The coral has once again deflated to a little more than a skeleton. I really
like the purple tang and prefer to leave it in the tank (not to mention I do not
plan to drain 180 gallons of water again!). Is there anything that can be done
to stop the tang from nipping at the Lobophyllia and to keep the both healthy in
the same tank? --Greg
<nothing at all... really, short of separation. Its a compatibility problem that
cannot be conquered by extra feedings, etc. Do consider placing the coral in a
small inline refugium instead - perhaps the best of both worlds. Anthony>
Coral Excretion? 6/15/04
Hi again, cant find satisfactory answer in archives after two hours and
various detours from subject.
<a nifty way to learn>
My brain coral is exuding a brown hair like substance from little openings in
the valleys between its ridges which are rather like very small volcanoes in
appearance. Please reassure me, is this it excreting waste matter from its
various mouths as I suspect it is?
<quite likely yes... have you been feeding it or the tank well? If so, indeed
this may be the scoop on poop>
Or something much more sinister?
<the only other thing commonly possible would be the expulsion of zooxanthellae
packets if the animal was light shocked. But that would be rather obvious - pale
and stressed coral under bright lights or suddenly increased water clarity (as
with sudden use of carbon in yellow water after many months without>
I have recently (this week) learnt to target feed it Mysis shrimp after a period
of unknowing starvation (three weeks or so) during which it still opened nightly
and occasionally over the day.
<ah, yes... good to hear you are feeding. This is a hungry coral>
Seems other wise happy but I realize this can be deceptive. Fed it twice a day
for three or so days to boost it up after having starved it (unknowingly) now
down to once a day. Is this too often to feed it?
<very nice if you want fast growth... but a few times weekly would be enough>
How often should I feed it? I turn off pumps first thing in the morning before
lights on while it is still all open and target feed with plastic syringe (no
needle) then feed fish so they leave it alone and it seems to get heaps, all
ridges swell, soft and trap Mysis. How long should I leave it to eat before I
turn pumps back on which invariably blows the shrimp away for fish to pick up in
current? Five minutes/fifteen minutes/half an hour?
<tough to say... and do invest in an electronic relay switch that automatically
turns power/pumps back on. Human error is inevitable in time and if you forget
to turn the pumps on for an afternoon, overnight, etc., it could be disastrous.
10-15 minutes sounds fine to me for feeding opportunities>
Thanks heaps.
<we have piles of it. Best regards, Anthony>
Maze Brain Coral
Hi I have what I think is a maze brain coral I've had for a few weeks that seems
happy in my one month old tank opens at night closes during day apart from
opening some parts every now and then in daylight. It originally had some small
crustacean things living in holes in it which didn't bother it at all but they
died recently either due to low pH (7.5) or high spec grav (1.029) which I have
now fixed, or lack of whatever they eat in the ocean and one of the vacant areas
now has what looks like a spider web over it with a funnel area the creatures
were removed as they died. What could this be, will it harm my coral and should
I do anything about it? << I tend to leave things in for two reasons. One is
laziness, as I just let my tank grow as it may. The second is because I like to
see natural tanks be.... well... natural. I like letting them take their course
and balance themselves out. >>I use natural sea water from the area my
inhabitants come from. << That is convenient. >> And what, how often should I
feed my coral? << Good question. Those corals can be directly fed, and I would
recommend doing so once every couple of weeks. >>I know nothing and live in the
country where there is very little information or product available to me. << I
wouldn't worry yet, but just keep watching it. If the coral tissue starts to
recede, then I would suggest fragging what remains. If it stays the same or
starts to grow, then I wouldn't stress it with fragging for a while.>>
<< Adam Blundell >>
Coral feeding 6/11/04
I feel so stupid I post you guys like two questions a day at the moment but
I want to understand what I'm doing and get it right I am beginning to understand
it is not quite an exact science though.
<no worries>
Any way my maze brain coral (if that's what it is) still haven't fed it but I
now understand I can feed it actual food as in Mysis or krill mashed I thought
it had to have liquid zoo or phyto plankton.
<yes on the former... easy on the latter. For this and all corals, just look at
their polyps (size and behavior) - "Form Follows Function". Large polyps that
come out at night eat zooplankton (amphipods, copepods, etc. and like
substitute: Mysis, rotifers, etc.). Tiny polyps that are out all day long or
randomly, tend to eat nanoplankton (perhaps bacteria, floc, phyto, etc.)>
Geo Liquid is what I have had recommended know anything about what this is?
<no idea>
Is it what I need?
<if its a phyto substitute... no. Not needed for this coral>
Thanks so much for answering all my stupid little (and some rather vague)
questions, cheers.
<all good... best of luck. Anthony>
Candy Cane Coral 3/8/04
Hi Bob,
<Anthony Calfo in his stead>
Thanks for the help with the candy cane coral so far. I have
searched the web and the FAQs for... too long. I am meeting
with a man tomorrow about purchasing a candy cane coral. I
noticed that the color is usually a brown or a green. I am
concerned when I met with this guy that I will not know whether it is
healthy or not. Could you please give me some pointers as to
color, and basic appearance so that I get a healthy specimen.
<it's tough to summarize in the brevity of an e-mail. Obvious factors
to look for would be any recession of tissue, exposed corallum
("skeleton"), excessive mucus. But before you buy any coral
without knowing how to assess health, please, please, please invest in a
good book or two. John Tullock, Eric Borneman and, if I may say so, my
works on corals are easy to read, popular and informative. For corals with
pictures... I can recommend Eric B's "Aquarium Corals" as your
first choice. Please make the responsible choice and do not buy any animal
without knowing how to care for it first. Caulastrea (candy cane coral) is
fairly hardy and easy to keep, but requires feeding weekly or more often,
and will not acclimate easily to very bright halide light>
Thank you very much, Todd Hawman
I should have included a picture of what was posted on the net by the
seller. http://www.buysell.com/bestoffer/viewoffer.asp?id=26121043
this is the address to the picture he provides....not sure if it is
actually his. Please help!!
<the picture/coral is odd... appears to be healthy, but the polyps have
an inflated look. May simply be a photo soon after a feeding>
Also if this is a healthy coral... should I start
acclimation (in terms of lighting) very near the bottom on
rock?? I have a 90 gallon tank... 24" deep and have a 4
foot 32 watt fluorescent light. Thank you very much. Todd
Hawman
<keep this coral in the top 1/3 of your tank. Fluorescent lights may be
good quality but they are weak (unable to penetrate water at depth). I do
have an article here on WWM specifically on "acclimating symbiotic
reef invertebrates" to new lights. Do seek it (use the google search
tool at the bottom of the index/home page). Best of luck, Anthony> |
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Feeding time
Thank you for the help with the lighting situation. I had another
question about feeding my candy cane coral. I have tried to feed it
(using turkey baster, turning off all water movement) mega marine algae, Mysis
shrimp and brine shrimp but the tentacles only ever come out at like 4:00 in the
morning...I can't keep doing this. Is there a way to get them to open
up during the day, a certain food I should be feeding them??
<Corals can be "trained" to extend their tentacles by feeding at
the same time each day and by "teasing" the polyps with a squirt of
juice from the food. It takes some patience and time, but it will
work. In the meantime, while I admire your dedication, you probably
don't need to get up at 4:00 each morning. This coral will do fine
for quiet a while without target feeding. Any chopped (BB size) meaty food is
fine.>
Also, my green bristle star has started making a tent...waiting
for an unsuspecting fish. I have been feeding him shrimp whole) but
he has recently stop taking it...is there something better to try and feed
him??? Thank you very much for all the help so far,
Todd Hawman
<Todd, as you seem to be aware, some brittle stars are quite predatory when
they get large. I would try smaller pieces of shrimp or other meaty
foods. Do consider whether you wish to risk any fish or inverts by
keeping this animal. Best Regards. Adam>
Proper lighting for Scolymia 3/1/04
Sorry I didn't have more specific info--I should have known better.
However, I am told I have a Scolymia Cynarina. Does this
compute?
<Sort of. It sounds like you/they are referring to one of two possible
genera: Scolymia or Cynarina. Both need low light if red in color... high UV
(although not necessarily bright light) if green. Feed 3-5 times weekly>
Could use your input, if this is the correct species. Thanks
again........Barry
<best of luck! Anthony>
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