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Treatment Techniques & Tools Related Articles: Treating Tap water for
Marine Aquarium Use, Water Purification
Using Reverse Osmosis,
Related FAQs: Treating Tapwater 1,
Treating Tapwater 2,
Treating Tapwater 3, & FAQs on New Water
Treatment: Rationale/Science,
Chemicals (Chlorine, Chloramines, Trihalomethanes...),
Filtrants, Testing,
Troubleshooting,
Products by Manufacturer/Brand,
DIY Treatment Chemicals/Tools,
& Reverse
Osmosis Filtration, Specific Gravity, Water
Purification Using R.O 1. RO/DI 2, RO/DI
3, Nitrates, Water Changes,
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Mmm, may be that nothing is called for in using your source water... maybe
storing it ahead of use... perhaps dechloramination..., contactor/s.
Maybe RO, DI... |
Tap Water Treatment –
12/07/07
Hey Eric what's up?
<<Hiya Don!>>
I have a tap water question, my tap has 1.0 ppm ammonia, no nitrite or nitrate
or phosphate.
<<Okay>>
If I were to fill a 90 gallon can and throw Amquel + a power head and salt for a
week, would all bad stuff dissipate and would it be ok to use for water changes?
<<The Amquel+ will remove any Chlorine/Chloramines/Ammonia, and may detoxify
other elements, but will not remove “all bad stuff”…if present. That said, I see
no reason not to give this a try. How your tank responds will answer your
question>>
I don't have a RO unit and getting tired of carrying buckets. Or anything you
can think of…would be grateful.
<<I do prefer RO/DI for water prep…but give your idea a try>>
Also my fish that had Crypt are clear and the 22nd will be 6 week protocol to go
back into 210 tank.
<<Excellent>>
Plus I went out and bought a 90 gallon hospital/quarantine tank
<<Ahh…lots of room!>>
Thanks again for all the help; it's been fun even through the rough times.
<<Am looking forward to your (good) progress reports. EricR>>
Re: Tap Water Treatment -
12/09/07
Eric,
<<Don>>
Ok, bad stuff can mean a lot and I thank you for the quick response.
<<Indeed…and quite welcome>>
What exactly bad stuff would I be worried about without getting into all sorts
of crazy water chemistry.
<<Much of what may be in your tap water can not be tested by you/hobbyists,
though you can contact your water company and ask for a written analysis…and you
might be surprised at what you find (heavy metals, pesticides, etc.). And though
these will likely be in miniscule amounts, what is deemed safe for “us” does not
hold true/can still be problematical to your marine system>>
I do know Kordon makes a few water conditioner products beside Amquel +.
<<But of little to no use to you/your purpose. There are no magic elixirs out
there… It is my opinion you and your system will be happier in the long run with
some type of filtration unit (RO/DI) to pre-filter your tap water before use. Do
let me know if you wish to discuss these further, and/or read here and among the
associated links:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/h2opurifiers.htm . EricR>>
R2: Tap Water Treatment -
12/09/07
What about adding things like carbon to premix?
<<Can’t hurt/will help to prefilter your tap water through carbon…but is still
no replacement for a good filtration unit>>
I'm really not trying to be lazy because I’ve been traveling for RO water, but
my health is on a decline and carrying 12 buckets 2 times a week is rough.
<<Mmm, sorry to hear…and yes, much agreed. I automated my own system so a 50
gallon water change takes about 15 minutes. A turn of a valve to drain…a push of
a button to fill…fantastic…>>
I am big into water changes 10-20 %.
<<Excellent…is the single best thing you can do for your system>>
If not, if you know of a great company that has RO unit at reasonable cost send
the link please.
<<Ah yes…check these guys out…http://www.thefilterguys.biz/ro_di_systems.htm >>
I really don't know much about them.
<<Do let me know if I can help with this>>
Thanks Again.
<<Cheers, Eric Russell>>
R3: Tap Water Treatment -
12/10/07
Eric,
<<Don>>
Nice RO filter. . $124.00 - OCEAN WAVE SHELL FOUR STAGE 75 GPD REVERSE OSMOSIS
SYSTEM...
<<A nice unit, agreed...though for $10 more you should consider the five-stage
unit with the DI cartridge>>
How the heck do you install it? LMAO
<<The units are fairly easy/straightforward to install. You can either “tap in”
to a cold water line much as you would to install an ice-maker feed line (make
sure you have a valve in-line to shut-off flow when not in use), or, if a faucet
is within reach, you can use a faucet adapter to connect the infeed line
(adapter may come with the unit, else will have to be purchased separately). You
can check with the vendor to be sure, but the unit will likely come with written
instructions for installation. Also, I am familiar with this vendor and I know
they will do all they can to assist you with the install or to troubleshoot any
problems that may arise. EricR>>
Dechlorinators
12/10/05
Hi,
<Hello.>
I was wondering if using a water conditioner is important when doing a water change on a saltwater tank? I use to use one as a safe guard against chlorine but never really knew if I was wasting my money or not.
<Depends on the source water. If you are using tap, then yes a dechlorinator is necessary, if this RODI water, other than aerating it, nothing is necessary.>
Thanks,
<Welcome.>
Scott
<Adam J.>
Boiling Water For Aquarium Use 01-01-06
Hi crew.
<Hello>
Just a quick question about water treatment. I have a 38-gallon
reef system with various pieces of coral, live rock and crushed coral for
substrate. The system has been running for over 6 months. Every thing in
the tank in thriving including a bunch green hair algae that’s been growing
on my live rock for a while now. The algae never really bothered me, as a
matter of fact; it kind of made the reef system look better. But it’s
getting to the point know where it’s beginning to grow very tall and I have
to keep trimming it every week. I’ve been saving my pennies to buy an RO
water filter. Hopefully that will remedy my algae problem. My LFS
suggested that I boil my tap water and store it. They stated that boiling
tap water works as good as an RO unit. What do you think?
<That is completely false. RO units remove organics and heavy metals from the
water. Boiling your water will actually concentrate those elements as the water
evaporates. A good example would be the ring inside a coffee pot, usually a
calcium/lime build up. Boiling your water will do nothing for your algae issue.
RO will help, but you will also need to make sure your tank has undetectable
nitrates and phosphates to "snuff" out the algae.>
Your advise will
be greatly appreciated.
Elvin – Milwaukee, WI
<Glad to help, Travis>
Dechlorinators etc.
Hi,
<Hello!>
I was wondering about the chemicals used to detoxify tap water. I have
a marine fish/reef tank and I use the chemical such as Amquel to
detoxify the chloramines and chlorine for the water I use for changes and
topping off. Now I heard these are not good and contain some type of polymers
and other bad chemicals, is this correct?
<To my knowledge, dechlorinators do not contain anything harmful. However,
you could achieve the same result by aerating the water in a container for a
week or more. If you give the water oxygen and turbulence, the bad chlorine and
chloramines will dissipate on their own. Dechlorinators don't remove anything
from the water...they simply neutralize it. For more information, do a word
search containing the word "dechlorinaters" at Wetwebmedia.com For a
reef tank you will likely need RO/DI water.>
And another question I have is with the bio-balls in my wet/dry filter. Do these
cause the nitrates to raise?
<Yes>
I've heard of people taking the bio-balls out if so what do I use?
<Live rock inside the main display to the tune of 1-2 lbs per gallon and/or
continue to use the wet/dry. Just submerge the balls instead of allowing the
water to trickle over them.
Thank you, Tim
<You are most welcome! David Dowless>
Definitive answer on chloramine?
As I have learned on your site (along with a multitude of other
things...thanks), I have been aging my water in a trash can for about a week
before using it for water changes. Because of the chloramine in tap water, I
have also been using a product to detoxify it. I know I have read that such
products are unnecessary if water is aged for about a week; however, being a
novice aquarist with a sponge for a brain I'm reading everything I can. What I
have read is: ["1) Chloramine is present in toxic quantities in
virtually/actually all city water supplies, 2) It takes a good week or so to
"dissipate" by "setting", "aeration",
"hopeful wishing", or other such means"...] but also I have read
["chlorine will dissipate in open air but chloramine never will... a
chemical bond that must be broken (with a de-Ammoniating product.. most
conditioners)"] What is the definitive answer on this? Thanks. --Charlie
<All are "so" except the last statement. Chloramine will/does
dissipate with exposure to the air, aeration in a week. You can get/use a
chlorine/chloramine test kit (colorimetric assay) and check this out for
yourself if you'd like. Bob Fenner>
Re: he says...she says...know a good divorce lawyer? (Water Changes)
Greetings!
Please settle a dispute before we go to blows. =)
We're planning a water change for next weekend on our 90g reef. I had
planned to go to the store and buy about 15g of purified water and mix it with
Instant Ocean and aerate it the night before we do the water change. My husband
says to save the money on the purified water...he's saying if we fill up 2 5g
buckets of water on Thursday and leave the tops off, that all the impurities and
chlorine and garbage will "burn off' in time for the water
change. I've read your faq but haven't seen this argument
before. I guess the other option would be to go to the LFS and buy
some of their water? Any ideas are appreciated. Can you
come out here to California and help? heh heh
<For the most part your hubster is partly right this time. Most everyone can
"get as much benefit" as they're going to by pre-mixing and storing
their synthetic... made with simple tapwater... by mixing, circulating it for
about a week before use. Please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/water4maruse.htm
and the linked FAQs (at top, in blue) beyond. Bob Fenner>
Have a great weekend...go raiders!
mo
Garden hose use
Any reason why I should NOT use a new clean garden hose (with the ends cut
off) to transfer salt water to my display tank when I do a water change?
Thanks,
Michael
<Some have a "funny" vinyl smell and taste to them when new, but
all I've ever seen were labeled as safe for moving water for human consumption,
so I don't see a difficulty. Bob Fenner>
Garden hose toxicity
Thanks Bob!
I noticed that most garden hoses have a Calif Prop65 warning that they contain
chemicals known to cause cancer in humans. But I suspect I would
have died as a child if that were truly a big issue.
Michael
<Ha! I suspect I would as well. Also, if one reads, writes on the Internet
(long enough), am very sure they will die! Bob Fenner>
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