Rhinecanthus (diet, environment) – 10/13/08
Good evening guys!
<Hello,>
My name is Richard and I was browsing
around here and checked out your trigger's FAQ page
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/triggers/faqs.htm)
but
didn't find out what i was looking for so here it goes.
<Oh?>
I
have a Picasso trigger that's about 4" big inside 72 gal bow front tank.
He eats like a pig (just ate about 10 fish) and is the alpha alpha male
or female of the tank.
<When you say "10 fish" please promise me you
don't mean live feeder fish. Nothing could be worse for a captive
triggerfish. Putting aside the fact Triggers don't really eat fish in
the wild -- they feed almost entirely on shelled invertebrates and algae
-- feeder fish are nutritionally imbalanced (too much fat and
thiaminase) and "parasite time bombs". As Bob Fenner has reported, THE
most common cause of death for Pterois lionfish in captivity is feeding
them the wrong thing, i.e., Goldfish and other freshwater fish. There's
really no excuse for feeding a trigger live or even dead fish: instead
given them unshelled prawns, crab legs, small clams, krill, algae wafers
and so on.>
It was doing some weird things today and was wondering
if it was normal behavior in this fish type. (I had this fish for 3
weeks now btw)
<Define "weird". These are characterful fish to say
the least, but in part they're amazingly aggressive, and a lot of odd
behaviours are simply threat or territorial behaviours of various
types.>
Picasso swims up and down the tank furiously and rub his face
on the glass. I have checked for spots to see if it's an ich problem and
no spots.
Nitrite level is very, ammonia is very low, zero nitrate,
ph is balanced and salinity is well balanced.
<None of this means
much, suggesting that you haven't quite grasped the basics of marine
fishkeeping. Nitrite and ammonia levels in marine tanks are comparable
to pregnancy: in the same way a person is either pregnant or not
pregnant, and never almost pregnant or nearly pregnant, so nitrite and
ammonia are either zero (Safe) or not zero (Dangerous). Simple as that.
Nothing much to learn. So "very low" levels of nitrite and ammonia may
sound fine to the less experienced fishkeeper, but to anyone who has
kept marines for a while, all kinds of alarm bells are jangling! Review
filtration and how much you are feeding your Trigger. Next up, the pH
isn't "balanced" -- it is some specific value and very, very stable. The
precise value is up for debate, with values of 8.2 or 8.5 often being
quoted as optimal. But what matters is that the pH NEVER changes. The
sea is vast, and has enormous buffering capacity, so unlike freshwater
conditions there's no need for marine fish to evolve ways to handle pH
changes. Moreover, if the pH steadily drops between water changes, this
reveals deeper problems with water chemistry management, such as lack of
carbonate hardness or overstocking.>
I have 8 fish in that tank and
so far this is only fish that's acting up like this.
<Hmm... Triggers
are not noted for their good behaviour with tankmates! I would certainly
not recommend keeping Rhinecanthus is a standard community setting. As
has been reported, breeding Triggers have been known to attack divers,
let alone small fish!>
My other trigger (clown trigger) seems to be
doing fine with no erratic behavior.
<Presumably not in the same tank
-- mixing these two triggers in one tank would be crazy. Do understand
Balistoides conspicillum is one of the most aggressive marine fish in
the trade.>
Any input would be appreciated.
Stressed out fish
owner
Richard
<Read, my friend. Much written about these fish
here and elsewhere. They are remarkably hardy, so will put up with your
"learning curve" up to a point, but imposing on that hardiness isn't a
sensible idea. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Rhinecanthus (diet, environment) (RMF, comments?)
10/13/08
Hello Neale and WWM crew,
<Hello,>
Thanks
for getting back to me so quick and let me rephrase few things so that
you can understand the situation more and perhaps assist me better.
<OK, fire away!>
Ok, ph is at 8.3 (I try to keep it from 8.1 - 8.5, I
read that's the place I want to be and that's why I called it stable),
salinity is at .023, ammonia is .1, nitrite and nitrate is almost at
zero (.1 ish), .now after a 10 gal. water change.
<Now, don't get me
wrong: triggers can, will tolerate less than ideal conditions for longer
periods than most any other non-estuarine marine fish. Bob will correct
me on this
<<I would... if perceived as necessary, beneficial. RMF>>
I'm sure, but they were certainly among the very first fish to rack up
double-digit life spans in marine aquaria way back in the day. So
they're tough. But they're not indestructible, and even small variations
for "perfect" water quality can give disease-causing organisms the break
they need to cause problems. A stable pH 8.3 is good. Careful use of
buffers and regular water changes should tighten the variation down to a
bare minimum. Do remember the pH scale is logarithmic, i.e., between 7
and 8 there's a ten-fold difference in basic (as in not acidic) ion
concentration. So seemingly small variation is actually quite
substantial. Salinity isn't too much of an issue in a fish-only system,
though cured live rock with algae and invertebrates may experience
die-offs if the salinity varies or goes below whatever the live rock was
cured at. That will cause ammonia and nitrite to go upwards for some
weeks. I do think you need to review water quality: ammonia and nitrite
should be zero, and there's no real debate here. If the tank is new,
that's one thing. But if the tank has been up a while, or you're using
live rock for filtration, review stocking, how often you feed the fish,
capacity of the filter, how much live rock you've used, and so on.>
I
will do another one at end of this week to try to eliminate this
problem. PH is rarely changed because I try to keep at it certain level
at all times. I buff them every time I do a water change and check the
parameters short afterwards.
<Not sure what "buff them" means here.
Do you mean you add buffering salts to the water?>
I have a predator
tank which consists on black Volitans lion, clown trigger, Huma Huma,
porcupine puffer with little school of chromis.
<Well, the Chromis
shouldn't be there for obvious reasons. Diodon spp. porcupine fish have
the capacity to get enormous, so do be careful there. 40-50 cm is the
maximum size for even the smaller species.>
I feed them various
things, such as gut packed ghost shrimps (formula 1,2) , formula 1,
flake food (triggers eat it to my surprise), guppies, dried anchovies.
Would this diet be still be bad for the fish?
<You absolutely
shouldn't be feeding any of these fish any freshwater fish, live or, in
the case of Cyprinidae especially, dead. Simple as that. Dried anchovies
would surely be a treat, given how fatty they are. Do read Bob's
articles on feeding marine fish: really, this is the single biggest way
to mess up keeping large, fish-only systems. Standard seafood mixes from
the grocery store (squid, prawn, mussels) are economical, healthy foods
for all predatory fish. Weaning some onto dead foods may be more
difficult than others, but it's do-able for all your species.>
I am
just doing what I was told at LFS.
<That's the problem, and we've all
been there, even me, back I when I started. The reality is that while
many retailers provide excellent information, not all of them do. If you
went into a clothes store you wouldn't blindly accept the word of a
sales clerk who said a certain jacket or pair of trousers looked good.
You'd be aware all the time he's making a sale, and it's all too easy to
walk out the store with clothes that don't suit you at all. Just the
same as in a pet store: listen to their advice, but balance against your
own research. There's no lack of information. Bob's "Conscientious
Aquarist" book on marine fishkeeping is just one of the excellent and
inexpensive books out there. Given the huge cost of running and stocking
a marine tank, dropping 20-30 bucks on a well respected text book is
surely an investment?>
They say that they just feed them frozen dead
fish, guppies, goldfish and ghost shrimps.
<Do read Bob's piece here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/goldfshfd.htm
There's also a broad
consensus that using live foods *increases* the aggression among
predatory fish, the last thing you want in a busy community of fish with
deadly venom and massive firepower!>
Algae wafers that you
mentioned, you mean the circle shaped ones that you feed to fresh water
fish? They will eat those? or do you mean some other kind?
<Those
ones precisely. Get a small package first, to see if your Triggers like
them. Algae is a minor part of their diet, but a consistent one. They
bite at rocks and corals, scraping away algae.>
Krills are the dried
ones right?
<Frozen are usually better value and more readily taken.
Do understand with dried foods you pay a hefty premium for convenience.>
Besides putting feeding matters aside.
My main question on Picasso
how it swims top to bottom rapidly rubbing it's face on the glass wasn't
really addressed. I know that this type of trigger have awesome
personalities and are more like a dog then a fish but this behavior
scares me because I'm thinking that it may be an ich or something. I
haven't noticed any spots on the fish (both body and the fins) this
morning.. Should I be concerned?
<It may simply be trying to get out.
Many fish will "pace" the tank, swimming against the glass if they feel
confined. There's not much you can do beyond increasing water
circulation (so they have to swim harder, and therefore feel less
confined) and ensuring the rockwork provides each fish with sufficient
hidey holes.>
Also I try my best on reading up on anything possible,
like the link I provided earlier.
I read that same type (Picasso)
should not be kept together and those of similar size of different kind
should fare ok.
<Hmm... wouldn't put too much store by this with
Triggers; many is the aquarist who's bought one, popped it into a big
tank, and then watched it mature and then decide to beat seven bells out
of its tankmates. These fish claim big territories in the wild, and
pound for pound have to be some of the "hardest hitting" fish in the
ocean.>
They are doing fine as we speak.
<So far. Remember,
aggression is primarily a problem with sexually mature fish.
Reef-dwelling triggers breed in a cichlid-like manner, with males (I
believe) guarding the eggs.>
(thank goodness because those are my 2
favorite fishes!)
<Among my favourites, too.>
I know I'm not
professional/expert level and I know I'm learning new things everyday
but I try to do my best by reading and researching, doing maintenance
diligently and keep my fish's health and best interest at heart so
please don't say that I'm imposing on my fish's hardiness.
<It's not
a comment on your good intentions or lack of kindness towards animals.
Merely a statement that if conditions deviate from 100%, you open the
door to problems. That's the "imposition". I fully understand you like
these fish and want to do well by them, and applaud you for it. All I'm
trying to do is lay the facts out in the open fair and square, so that
you can see the particular mines in this minefield, so to speak.>
As
you can see, I'm very concerned or wouldn't be writing to you guys.
<Quite so.>
Just thought I would throw that in there because your
last sentence made me sound like a noob who really don't care about his
fishes.
<No offence meant.>
Richard the stressed out fish owner.
<Cheers, Neale.>
Trigger not eating - 09/07/06
Dear Bob Fenner:<Hey Bob is gone on a dive, lucky man so you get me
today>
I bought a Picasso triggerfish last Friday (9/1) and it's
been 6 days but the Picasso triggerfish won't eat anything.
I have
tried to feed her the brine shrimp, the row shrimp, flake, krill shrimp,
and even the rosey fish but I never see her eating anything.
My
current tank has candy anemone, crown fish, damsel fish, Chromis fish,
coral bandy shrimp, hermit crab....and they are all doing good. <You
don't mention how big the tank is, what the parameters are, how big the
trigger is, how big the other fish are? In my experience triggers can
be a bit shy at first and will often hide or lock in and only come out
when the tank gets dark. They will pick food off the bottom or coral or
rock at this time. Is your trigger seeming to loose body mass? That is
one way to tell for sure.>
I should ask the PetCo people to feed
the fish before I bought it. they told me it just arrive that day or day
before. <I would definitely ask them if it ate anything there and if so
what it was.>
Any suggestion you can give is welcome <Good luck
Sam and keep the faith, triggers get over this initial phase usually
pretty quickly with patience time and the tank in good shape.>
Sam
Picasso Trigger Won't Eat - 09/10/06
Dear Bob
Fenner:
<<EricR at your service today...Bob's in Jamaica trying out
all the new flavors of rum since his last visit>>
I bought a Picasso
triggerfish last Friday (9/1) and it's been 6 days but the Picasso
triggerfish won't eat anything.
<<Hmm...did you see it eat before
you bought it?>>
I have tried to feed her the brine shrimp, the row
shrimp, flake, krill shrimp, and even the rosey fish but I never seen
she eating anything.
<<Those mostly a prophylactic treatment, you
can try adding some Epsom salts to you system at a rate of one
level-teaspoon per 10 gallons of actual water volume...and keep trying
to feed the trigger>>
My current tank has candy anemone, clown fish,
damsel fish, Chromis fish, coral banded shrimp, hermit crab....and they
are all doing good.
<<If the trigger recovers/lives, the anemone,
shrimp, and crab will all likely become "trigger food". You really
should spend a little time researching your purchases beforehand...and
utilizing proper quarantine procedure>>
I should
ask the PetCo people to feed the fish before I bought it.
<<Indeed>>
They told me it just arrive that day or day before. Any suggestion you
can give is welcome.
Sam
<<About all you can do is keep trying
to entice the trigger to feed (try soaking some thawed frozen mysis
shrimp in Selcon for a few minutes before feeding)...and hopefully,
learn from the experience. Regards, EricR>>
Picasso and the food that bit back... Polychaetes 5/26/06
Hey there Crew,
<Dan-O>
I have a young Picasso Trigger that I
fed a bristle worm to. Hungry (his name), went for it and the worm
promptly disappeared into his belly. A week or so later, he developed a
growth approx. where his chin would be and he doesn't seem to be able to
open his mouth to take food. His appetite is the same as he goes for my
fingers if they are too close to the tank and he will attack any food I
put in the tank, but he can't seem to open his mouth to eat. He hasn't
eaten in 10-14 days, so do you think it will go away on its own?
Thanks,
Danny
<I do hope so... is possible the worm feeding and
this situation are related... the bristles from some polychaetes are
very sharp, hurt like the Dickens to get stuck in ones hands (I can
personally testify). I do hope your trigger self-repairs. Keep offering
meaty food items every few days. Bob Fenner>
Trigger Feeding
12/17/05
Hi,
<Howdy>
I have a feeding question that
was not directly answered in my searches. I have a Picasso trigger that
is about four inches in a 55 gal tank.
<... too small a world...>
He had some damsel buddies but he is now alone. My question is how much
and how often should I feed?
<Once, twice a day... more frequently,
smaller amounts>
The reason I am asking is because anytime anyone
passes within 5 feet of the tank or once it is dark outside, the trigger
violently swims at the top front of the tank, back and forth for hours.
<Territorial... not for food directly>
In fact, lately it has been
his activity half to 3/4 of the day. He breaths hard doing this, and I
am wondering if he is stressed.
<Good question>
I don't know
if I should be doing something different in how I feed. I was feeding
(krill and silversides) once in the morning and once at night when the
actinic lights were on (which are timed to be on a hour before and an
hour after the whites). I try to increase it to three moderate
portions, but the erratic swimming has worsened. I drop the food in at
the surface by the outflow of the protein skimmer, should I
do
something different than that (use a feeding stick maybe)? I don't see
other triggers his size do this, so I am guessing it is something I am
doing. Any help you can provide would be helpful. By the way, at last
check pH and salinity were optimal, and I have a Remora skimmer, a Rena
canister filter, with 2 powerheads and approx. 40-45 pounds of live
rock. I've had the trigger since July and he has been alone for 2
weeks.
JWA
<This fish/species needs more
room... should be placed near last to avoid agonistic behavioral
troubles... as you'll experience should you try placing something with
it in the 55. Bob Fenner>
Re: Trigger Feeding 12/18/05
Thanks for the reply. Here is my full story and maybe this will explain
why I have him the 4" Picasso trigger in a 55 gallon tank). My previous
e-mail should be included. I had two damsels and a lionfish in the tank
before getting the Picasso trigger. It was a "surprise birthday gift"
from my visiting in-laws. From what the LFS told them, and from what
the "Marine Fishes" by Scott Michael said, they (my in-laws and wife)
were under the impression that the trigger's minimum size tank is 55
gallons.
<At an absolute minimum... without other livestock...>
So that is how he arrived. I questioned it because he was large, but
because it was a birthday gift from in-laws and because I really wanted
one(s smaller one that is), I took him. He actually did pretty well with
the other fish, no troubles for three and a half months. However, after
dealing with major temperature fluctuations, I lost the damsels and
lionfish to what seemed to be stress related issues about three and a
half months after the trigger arrived (no new additions to the
tank
were made since trigger arrived). The trigger was the only fish I saved
(all fish were covered in white and it was definitely not ich, I and LFS
could only guess "velvet" because of the temperature problems). So that
is why he is alone. I am guessing the best approach would be to trade
him in for maybe a smaller Picasso, because I do intend on buying a
bigger tank, but not right now (I'm in school and will be graduating
next year). From my research, I hear Picasso triggers grow slower so
this can be done, right?
<Yes>
However, I believe I need to get
whatever other additions in before adding a small trigger. I was trying
to set up a fish-only "predator" tank that maybe can be transferred
later from a 55 gal. to something bigger. I am sorry this is so long, I
just want to do the right thing for the trigger and for future additions
to the tank.
Thanks,
JWA
<Do consider means of making your water quality "self-regulating"...
particularly pH, alkalinity... Predatory organisms in small volumes have
a habit of mal-affecting their own habitat... Bob Fenner>
Picasso Trigger Diet
Hi Bob and its great to be able to
correspond with you again. I recently purchased a 4" Picasso trigger for
my 90g FO tank. He is getting along famously with his tankmates, a 3"
Hippo Tang, a 2" Yellow Tang, a 2" Flame Angel and 2 small damsels. My
question is about the Picasso's diet. I think he is a great specimen,
both beautiful and with a great personality and I want him to thrive.
Right now he only seems interested in eating whole prawns, which is what
he was being fed at the LFS. I feed the other tank inhabitants daily
with frozen Formula 1 and 2 (evening), Formula 1 & 2 flakes (morning)
and Seaweed Selects. He does not seem interested in these at all. I am
soaking his prawns in Selcon, but I am still fearful that he may not be
receiving the proper nutrition. Any thoughts you might have would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.
<Ah, I share your concern re keeping
your Rhinecanthus trigger healthy, vibrantly colorful (as in the
wild)... good to be guarded about a fish developing a single food item
as a solitary diet, even though vitamin soaked. Would start weaning it
away by mixing some other foods in with the prawn... then leave off
offering the prawn for a day or two (the Trigger won't starve as you
know), inducing it to feed on other materials. Most anything meaty,
prepared (like the Formula foods or your own mix) will do. Also, though
this tank is Fish Only, do place some live rock here... no better way to
assure, provide a steady, complete (nutritionally) diet. Be chatting.
Bob Fenner>
Picasso Questions
Bob
I have read a lot of
the FAQ's concerning the Picasso Trigger and I have a couple of
questions.
1. How does one train them to eat from your hand? I would
like to start this as he is only about 2 inches long and I thought this
would be a good time to start it.
<Take the food between your fingers
and hold it at the top of the aquarium. At first, your fish will not
feed from your fingers, but will come up to investigate. When he does
come up, let go of the food. Eventually he will become braver and eat
right from your hands.>
2. Will a Picasso get along well with a Hippo
Tang, Yellow tang, and a bicolor blenny when he gets older?
<Not
notoriously aggressive as some other triggers, so it should be ok. The
two Tangs will probably not like one another, though.>
3. Lastly what
is a good diet to give him to keep his colors so bright? I have him on
Brine shrimp, Krill, squid, and mussel.
<I would finish whatever
Brine Shrimp you have and then not buy any more. The other are good. I
would add some O.N. Formula II (primarily for the tangs, but good for
the Trigger too) and Trigger Formula (which has some sea urchin in it).>
Thanks for your time and your responses helped me out a lot. Darren
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Picasso Trigger/Stars & Stripes
Puffer
Hello to whomever may be working tonight! <<It's JasonC
today, greetings.>> Here's a little story, with some questions at the
end. I brought home a Stars & Stripes puffer tonight (3 inches), and
acclimated him into my tank that currently contains Gordon (my 1.5-inch
Picasso Trigger) and a random blue damsel I can't catch to get rid of. I
was worried that Gordon would pick on him even though he's never
bothered the damsel. The puffer settles himself in, and within a few
minutes he's sticking his mouth into rock crevices and darting forward
(trying to munch on something in there, I'm sure). Now here's the
strange part: Gordon eyes him warily for about 15 minutes, then slowly
swims up to him. Then, to my horror, he bites the puffer! But I soon
realize it's not a hard bite, as the puffer doesn't even move. It's more
like little nibbles, almost like what kissing gouramis do to the glass
when they're alone ;-) And it gets stranger. Gordon shadows the puffer
around, and the next time the puffer does the munchin' in the rocks bit,
Gordon's right alongside him, doing the same thing. He's never showed
any interest in the rocks before, except to occasionally rearrange them.
So what's going on? <<My take on this is - and you should know that both
these fish are pretty smart as fish go - is that the trigger realizes
the puffer might reveal something tasty with its digging, and so the
puffer is just standing by to see if this is the case. From time to
time, something appears and it takes a taste.>> It's this a weird case
of inter-species puppy love? <<I don't think so.>> Or was Gordon just
getting a taste to decide if the puffer is edible? <<Less possible than
the other explanation - again, because these fish are smart, the trigger
probably knows already that puffers aren't good eating.>> Thanks in
advance!
Jodie
<<Cheers, J -- >>
Trigger and Puffer II
Hi Bob,
<Actually, this time and last time, you were "talking" to
Steven Pro, one of the WWM crew members.>
I realize that feeder
goldfish isn't a natural food source for my Huma and trigger, however,
will that somehow affect their health?
<Yes, will be bad for their
health. You can read more about it here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/goldfshfd.htm>
I thought I was doing the
right thing by feeding them live food versus frozen food.
<Much
easier to meet their dietary requirements with frozen foods.>
I also
occasionally feed them thawed mussels, shrimps, squid, and other marine
variety seafood but it seemed to me that it was giving my puffer
indigestion problems. Don't get me wrong, he'll eat anything, except for
formula food.
<Those are all good foods.>
Another dumb thing that
I did though was I threw in a freshwater crayfish.
<Not dumb at all.
Generally needed for the trigger and to a greater extent the puffer to
wear down their teeth.>
I'd read somewhere that it was good for the
Huma to eat hard-shelled things to sharpen their teeth. My puffer ate
most of the hard shell and had very bad indigestion for a couple days. I
even though he was going to die cause he would float on his side! He's
much better now and recovered.
<A very strange occurrence, perhaps
unrelated to eating the crayfish.>
It seems that you're suggesting
feeding them mostly frozen food as I've been doing above all the time.
Anything live that I can buy occasionally that they'll like?
<Ghost
shrimp that have been acclimated to full strength seawater and fed a
well round diet of marine origin are ok, but really not necessary.>
Thanks for the reply. ~May
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Trigger and Puffer
Hi Bob,
<Steven Pro this evening.>
I
have a 75g tank with a 4-5 inch Huma Huma trigger, a 4-5 inch stars n
stripes puffer, a clown and 2 damsels. The Huma was the last fish that I
introduced in the tank. In the beginning (for the first two months or
so) everything seemed fine. I'd feed my Huma and puffer 1 large feeder
and they'd both share it.
<By feeder, I assume you mean feeder
goldfish, an absolutely horrible food for any marine fish. Please try to
wean both onto foods of saltwater origin. Frozen krill, clam, mussels,
and mixed "formula" foods would all be good.>
In fact my puffer got
lazier and didn't even bother to go for the kill anymore. He'd let the
Huma chase the feeder and then would join in on the feast afterwards.
I'm wondering if this is normal. Even with the feeder swimming right by
him would not cause the puffer to do anything.
<Maybe he realized the
goldfish was bad for him (a little joke to amuse myself).>
Another
concern is that now my Huma is really getting mean and has started to
bite my puffer whenever he approaches the dead feeder Huma is feeding
on. I suppose it could be because my puffer usually takes huge bites and
can swallow almost the whole feeder, leaving Huma with nothing. I don't
know what to do to stop the Huma from attacking my puffer who is really
shy.
<Putting them in separate tanks would surely work. Also, try to
feed them a little more and at different ends of the tank.>
Thanks,
May
<Have a nice evening. -Steven Pro>
Crunch and Munch
(Feeding a Trigger Fish)
Hello crew
<Hey there, Scott F. here
with you this evening>
I was wondering if the Picasso would eat the
frozen brine shrimp sold at fish shops or if it would be best to feed
live brine? Also, do they eat turbo snails or any other 'cleaners'?
<The Picasso trigger will certainly eat frozen and live brine shrimp,
however, that's like you living on a diet of three musketeers. They
certainly tasty, but they do not do a whole lot in nutrition. Brine
shrimp does not offer a high nutritive value. It's an excellent
supplemental food, but should not be the basis of his diet. Rather, I
would feed this guy high quality frozen food such as Mysis, krill,
chopped squids, clam, etc. And yes, he will definitely eat snails and
probably munch on your hermit crabs too. Other than the fact that he
will eat everything that goes in your tank, including your fingers, will
rearrange your decor, dig in your sand, and tear the place up, he is a
great fish. Enjoy him!>
Thanks for your time
<Thanks for stopping
in!>
Picasso Running Scared? (9/6/04)
Hi, <Hello. Steve
Allen here.>
I would like to ask your crew a question regarding my
Picasso trigger. He or she has been a hardy specimen for some time now.
I recently added two puffers to his tank which already had a clown. He
(the Picasso) quickly asserted himself as alpha male within minutes.
They have been getting along <or putting up with one another> now for
some time (a couple of weeks maybe). I have always fed him from my hand
and he has always been a good eater. <Haven't been bitten yet, eh? Can
happen & hurts.> The two puffers have also been eating from my hand
also, especially the porcupine.
This last Saturday, I got up to feed
them, a little later than normal, and found the Picasso hiding in the
coral he normally sleeps in and the dog face puffer had changed color.
They both have not responded to my feeding. The porcupine is still
eating well but I can't get the Picasso out of his hiding place. He now
has started coming out very slowly and does not eat well. He will NOT
eat from my hand anymore. He also stays in his hiding place all day
long. He has hardly eaten anything. The dog face is starting to eat
again from my hand and is starting to be himself again. Except today the
dog face blew himself up for no apparent reason. I am concerned about
this behavior from my Picasso, this is not how he used to act. I am
planning on buying a new tank next week for all the other fish except
the Picasso. <A big one, I hope. These puffers will grow to over 10" and
will need plenty of room.> I read that these triggers can be a little
aggressive as they age. <Not as bad as Clowns, but all Triggers get more
aggressive as they grow/age.> Will this behavior end soon and what do
you suppose happened. <Hard to say, but it sounds as if they may have
had a nasty tussle.> I have a 60 gal. tank and all chemistry is
excellent. The new tank I am buying will be 120 gal. <Good> Any help
would be greatly appreciated. <How big/old the Trigger? You may need to
house it in quarantine while getting the Puffers into your new tank.
Keep an eye out for any symptoms suggesting infectious our toxic
ailments as well. It does seem to me that the solution here is
separation.> Thanks, Mike Jamison <You're welcome. Good luck.>