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FAQs on Harlequin Tuskfish, Choerodon fasciata,
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Most Tuskfish get along with all but shrimps, crabs,
snails... Or very slow, unaware fishes if hungry.
Hemitaurichthys polylepis.
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Harlequin Tusk... comp.
– 10/13/07
Hello, I have a 120cm (length) x 47.5cm (wide) x 55cm (height) reef tank
<<Mmm, okay…about 120-gallons US>>
with a 3 inches Mystery Wrasse and a 3.5 inches Labouti Fairy wrasse.
<<Exquisite fishes>>
I would like to add a Harlequin Tusk into my tank.
<<A healthy specimen would be a wonderful addition here I think>>
Do you think it will be suitable for my tank size to have this magnificent fish?
<<I do>>
And will it be a suitable tankmates for my other fishes?
<<Yes…Their name/appearance belies a quite gentle demeanor…as long as you’re not
a tasty shrimp/snail/small crab/etc... Do be sure to provide plenty of
structure/caves for this shy species. And do please read here!
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/faciata.htm)>>
Thank you.
Sincerely, Ferdinand
<<Happy to assist. EricR>>
Frogfish tank, Harlequin
comp. mostly 6/20/07
Dear Wet Web Media
<Part of it>
After following your advice in regards to upgrading a frogfish tank, I have
selected some candidates, however i have a question about one. I would like to
stock a 450 litre tank with a Calloplesiops altivelis, my Antennarius hispidus
and the other fish i would like to stock is Lienardella fasciata the Harlequin
Tusk. I intend to have a stack of live rock on the left hand side of the tank
with coral such as Sinularia, Ricordea, Goniopora,
<... needs to be "on the bottom", and this genus is not easily kept... all
polyps need to be fed... I'd be reading re>
xenia and have the right hand side just sand with a open brain and Fungia plate
corals on the substrate. My question is would the tusk given this large amount
of space still knock over the corals stacked on the other side of the tank.
<Mmm, not likely if these were placed securely>
I have read many contradicting articles on reef suitability in regards to
knocking things but as my tank would be fairly open would this be such an issue.
<Mmm, no... but will need more room in time>
The other question is that i feed my frogfish sprats or silversides with an
acrylic feeding pole, Is the Harlequin likely to steel the fish on the pole
before i can feed the frogfish, again reading many confusing articles describing
the harlequin as shy compared to most of the wrasses and selective in feeding
ranging to greedy.
<This is a possibility... but likely of small concern... you can/should feed the
Tusk first...>
Best Regards and thanks fo the help Ben
<And to you, Bob Fenner>
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Yellow
Tang vs. Tusk Fish 5/24/07
Morning all,
I realize I probably write longer and longer emails the more and more I
learn... so maybe I should summarize my latest book for you :)
<Please do>
200gallon tank with plenty of circulation and 210lbs of caves, tunnels,
hiding spots in my Tonga rock with a 3" fine sandbed.
Snowflake Eel ~ about 18" ~ first fish added, he doesn't mess with
anyone and no one messes with him Yellow Tang and Foxface ~ both about
4"~ the best of friends with the Foxface the second fish added and the
Tang the 3rd fish added.
<Likely "believe" they're the same species>
Royal Dottyback ~ about 3" ~ had him for years but got moved to this
tank from my 90gallon tank because he became too territorial for it He
is more or less the longer, he might try to exert some attitude no and
then but it is quickly put in check by anything he bothers. Nobody
seems to initiate aggression towards him 2 Bannerfish ~ about 4 & 5" ~
introduced two weeks ago after 2 week quarantine... as retailer had both
of them for 2 - 5 weeks prior.
Hangout together and leave everything in the tank alone, but are often
chased by the Tang.
<Not likely a problem in this sized system>
Harlequin Tuskfish ~ about 4" ~ quarantined for 4 weeks and just added
to my tank on Saturday. He's pretty peaceful and leaves everything
alone... seems to hangout with the Bannerfish mostly. Anyhow, the Tang
seems to exert some aggression towards the Tusk.
<Habitat/resource partitioning... would have been better for the
Zebrasoma to go in after...>
I've watched pretty closely, and it seems mostly like charges and
turning away at the last moment. However, I saw for the first time the
tang trying to back into the Tusk in a corner with it's white barbs
sticking out.
<Mmmm>
Of note, I have increased my feeding sizes and frequencies so there is
definitely no shortage of food. I also keep two feeder clips daily to
which the Foxface, Tang, and Bannerfish will feed at leisure in what
appears to be harmony. It seems like the Tang only gets the attitude
when he's cruising around the tank.
<Yes... typical>
I was thinking if anything, the Bannerfish of a similar size and shape
would be of concern...
<Mmm, no... they don't "compete" with the Tang for the rocks... unlike
the Choerodon>
but it seems like over the past two weeks the Tang is certainly more
accepting of them.
<Also as usual>
On a scale of 1-10, I'd say the aggression seemed to be about a 6 on
introduction... and about a 2 now. With respect to the Tuskfish, about
a 6 now... however perhaps the Tuskfish seems a little more afraid as he
stays to one end of the tank mostly. The Tuskfish does have his own set
of weaponry that he will use if the Tang becomes to aggressive,
correct????
<Oh yes>
In short, should I be concerned about them?
<Concerned? Yes... but not overly so... I give you good odds all that
you list will settle in fine here>
I'd figure that it would take a few weeks and then all should be well...
but the Tang cornering the Tuskfish and trying to back into him with the
barbs out had me concerned.
Oh look, one page... a new record for me.
David Brynlund
<Heeeee! You and I should NOT go shopping at CostCo together... Unless
we bring the truck or van to haul our buys away! Bob Fenner>
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Re:
Yellow Tang vs. Tusk Fish 5/24/07
I'm not a shopper unless you turn me loose in an Aquarium Retailer or
BestBuy!
<Heeeee!>
On another note, in this 200g system I have 3 sand stars. One of your
staff warned me about the inappropriateness of sand stars in my setup.
Realistically, I have 8sqft of open sand at a depth of 3". The rest is
rock covered...
<Mmm, "so many foxes, so many hens...">
The comment posed to me was that a single sand star should have 9sqft of
sand at a depth of at least 8". Therefore my system would hardly even
sustain one sand star, and I have 3.
Is it that I am harming my sand stars? Or are the sand stars harming my
tankbio?
<More the latter here>
Meaning, consuming all the nutrients that would normally increase the
microlife?
<More like consuming the micro-life, the in-fauna itself>
Ok, I'm no science guy here....
<Mmm, yes you are...>
So my terminology is probably way off. Do you understand my question?
<I think so... ergo I am! Said Popeye the Sailorman, toot toot!>
I'm wondering if I should simply keep them? Or if I should take them
back to the store.
<Up to you...>
I've had them for a few years. I'm thinking if they go back to the
store they will likely end up in an even smaller tank with someone who
knew less than what I did? Thoughts?
David Brynlund
<Always keep beer in a cool, dark place. Be chatting... and drinking!
BobF> |
Tusk Vs. Tang – 05/08/07
Hi,
<Hello.>
I have just introduced a 6" Australian harlequin Tuskfish into my 400 litre
Juwel aquarium, and my slightly larger regal tang has gone crazy, I have
noticed a few scratches on the side of the Tuskfish which i <I> am sure the
tang has caused with his spines. Should I remove the tang?, or will he calm
down eventually?
<If you can remove he tang, I would consider putting him your QT tank for a
week or two while the tusk adjusts. Maybe rearrange the rock-work a little
too.>
The Tuskfish has the best colouring, of any Tuskfish I have ever seen, and
I would rather take my tang back to my LFS than put it at risk.
<If the aggression warrants removal then do so.>
Thanks
<Welcome, Adam J.>
Re: Tusk eating sea stars – 5/4/07
I just happen to be reading through your web pages as I do when
something arises....(Thanks for the great advice) when I read this :
Q. Will harlequin tusk eat starfish and serpent stars? if no, Any
chances of HT hurting the stars and serpents? <The chances are very low
to non-existent that a tusk would harm a sea star.>
<Cheers, J -- >
I thought I would add some of my experience here. I have had a
Harlequin tusk for around 4 years (and still do). He started out in my
reef along with a snowflake eel, these two had a love/hate relationship
from the start. The tusk would try to block the eel from moving out of
the rock work often locking himself upside-down between two rocks. They
really had a funny relationship.
Anyway, I am writing because I also had two serpent seastars which after
a short while were ripped out from under the rock work and eaten by the
tusk. This was a mature tusk around 7" in length. I guess anything is
possible, but I haven't put another one in his home agian. I eventually
removed the eel from the reef due to nutrient issues. He now has his
own home among the tong branch. Thanks again for the great website.
Mike
<Thank you for this Mike. BobF, looking through all else's in-folders>
Harlequin Tusk and Pencil Urchin 3/26/07
Hi Crew!
I'd be lost without you! Long before making any purchase for my tanks I
always research it on your site, and trust me, its saved many a fish, etc.
<A pleasure to realize how we've helped you help your livestock>
I've been searching for several days now, and can't find the answer to my
question. I'm interested in getting a Harlequin Tuskfish. I understand he
will likely eat my hermits (although they're pretty big) and will probably
leave my Chocolate Chip Stars alone.
<Mmm, yes... though it might sample these barely motile invertebrates as
well>
What I can't find out is if he'll sample my pencil urchins
(Eucidaris tribuloides)?
<Possibly as well, yes... Though if started as a small specimen, fed on a
regular mix of foods, much less likelihood>
I have a male/female pair (they spawned once--freaked me out, until I
realized they weren't having fits) and have become rather attached to them.
<Ahh!>
And while I have your attention--would a serpent star or a brittle star just
be an expensive treat for my Lionfish and/or Snowflake Moray?
<Not likely... a very small possibility>
They both gobble up squid tentacles like candy and I'm afraid they might
mistake a serpent star in particular for this? What do you think? The
lionfish was sold as a "Black Volitans" but he better resembles a Pterois
russelli, if that makes a difference.
Thanks so much,
BC.
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Cleanup crew and triggers/tusk 3/20/07
Hello crew and thanks again for all of the great information.
<Greetings, to you! Thank you and you're welcome.>
I have a 125 gallon FOWLR that contains 90lbs live rock with an assasi trigger,
niger trigger, Tuskfish, flame angel and a Kole tang.
<I'm hoping these are all small specimens? This will likely result in elevated
stress levels in the future...>
I would like to place a few crabs (emerald & hermits) and maybe a shrimp or two
that I expect will be consumed eventually,
<Yup, but sometimes not. Have to wait and see.>
but I am OK with that although I am not sure of the consequences in terms of
fish aggression. I have read a few FAQs and other information that indicates
this could elevate the aggression in the tank.
<Anytime your fish are eating food that they catch & kill, you can expect them
to have a slightly higher than otherwise "mean-streak" due to the stimulation of
their predator drive. This is less common with the chance ingestion of a crab or
shrimp as say, if you were to regularly supplement their diet with live foods.
That is not to say, however, that you shouldn't expect that once one has eaten
one of your crustaceans, they won't have acquired a taste for it.>
Is there any merit to this or something else I should be considering.
<You chose some fish that have a natural tendency for live foods, especially of
the variety you have in mind. Crabs are little snacks for triggers, and the
Tuskfish is no stranger to investigating if something soft lies within the shell
of the nearest crustacean either. This is something you are no doubt aware of,
and hopefully were before you decided to keep these species together. If you
know this going in, then plan as best you can to keep the little shelled-buddies
alive as long as possible by introducing them after feeding and lights-out. Good
luck with that (Personality is always the determining factor here).
-GrahamT>
Thanks again.
Compatibility for Harlequin Tusk
Hello
<Hey Paul, JustinN with you on this fine day.>
I am presently setting up a 120 gallon FOWLR tank.
<Ok>
When the tank is ready I intend to add ; One Harlequin Tusk and three Henochius
<Heniochus>.
<Sounds like you've got a game plan, very good.>
Understanding that the least aggressive enters first which one of the fish
mentioned would that be, seeing as they are both pretty calm?
<I would allow the Heniochus sp. to establish first, and add the wrasse last.>
Secondly: I understand that it takes several hours to acclimatize a Harlequin,
would you tell me 'specifically' how this is done?
<Outlined and posted on WWM already, see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimat.htm >
Third (and last) I also understand that a Harlequin will not eat crustaceans
that are already in the tank, but will eat those that are added (thinking they
are food) is this correct?
<No, the wrasse will likely make meals out of any crustaceans it can lay its
cool blue teeth on!>
Kindest Regards
Paul
<Any time, Paul. Hope I've helped you! -JustinN>
Harlequin Tuskfish Tankmates 7/10/06
Hi guys,
<One of the gals here…..Leslie with you this afternoon>
My question is about an Aussie tusk.
<One of my favorite fish!>
I have a 125g, 55g sump, 140lb LR,ev400 skimmer. Livestock includes a 5" Map
puffer, and a 2" dragon wrasse. Will the tusk be threatened by either of these
fish?
<Should be fine.>
Will the tusk be ok in the long run?
<Yes, I would think so.>
A larger tank is in the works (300G) as I am prepared to give these fish a
healthy environment as they grow and mature.
<That is very good to hear!>
Thanx, extremely helpful site! Marc, Folsom, Ca
<Glad to be of service, Leslie.>
Compatibility...Tusk Fish And Red Coris Wrasse 7/3/06
Dear WWM crew I hope all is going well!
<Not bad.>
I have a few dilemmas I am trying to solve and would like your opinion.
I really enjoy your website by the way.
<Thank you.>
First question, I have a 90 gallon saltwater aggressive tank.
The inhabitants at the current moment are a Volitans Lionfish and a Australian
Harlequin Tusk fish (Choerodon (Lienardella) fasciata)
I was wondering if my favorite Red coris (Coris gaimard). I am not real worried
about the harlequin being a bully because he is easily bullied by
others (I'd be willing to bet any fish that has a need to bully another fish
would be capable of bullying my harlequin (Haven't discovered a good
bite with those big blue teeth would stop bullying immediately) But I was
wandering if the harlequin would be OK with a wrasse in his tank?
<Should be fine.>
Question number two, I have been debating putting corals in the tank. I love the
reef but I love the angels. What do you think is a better fit?
<This choice is yours to make. The Red Coris is not reef compatible.
Your inhabitants will outgrow the 90 gallon tank and I would not be thinking of
adding more fish such as the angels you
mention. The Red Coris, under aquarium conditions can grow 6 to 8". Specimens
in nature can exceed one foot. Lionfish can attain a length of one foot with
the Tuskfish reaching 10 inches.>
Thank you for you time and opinions
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Your enthused saltwater hobbyist
Josh Schiff
Harlequin Tuskfish/Feeding/Compatibility 6/5/06
Hello Crew!
<Hello Wayne>
Thanks for the great site! I don't know what I'd do without you folks!
<You're welcome>
I have a few feeding questions.
I am currently feeding my Volitans Lion (8 in), and my snowflake eel (10 in),
raw/thawed shrimp, scallops, and occasional flounder. They are soaked in Kent
Zoe for 1.5 hrs prior to being frozen.
I feed them both every other day. We've had the Lion for about 8 months
now. He's grown about 10% (maybe an inch) during that time.
My questions:
Is this growth rate normal?
<Hard to say, much depends on nutrition, water quality, tank size, etc> (we're
hoping he'd grow faster)
Is it ok to feed him daily, instead of every other day?
<I think every other day is a little much for the lionfish. Twice weekly would
suffice.>
and will he grow faster if we feed him daily?
<More than likely, I do, but I'm not getting any taller, just wider.>
I have a Harlequin Tuskfish on the way.
I plan to feed him the same foods as the Eel and Lionfish.
<Would be fine.>
I plan to feed him 2 times per day.
Does this sound ok? Is there anything else I should be feeding the Tuskfish?
<What you mentioned is fine. Keep in mind, the Tuskfish will eat any small
crustaceans present in your tank. They use those tusks very efficiently. Do
search for info on the Wet Web before writing. The information you requested is
easily found on our site.>
Thanks for everything! You guys/gals are great!
<You're welcome, again. James (Salty Dog)>
Wayne
Cat Shark...Other Stocking Question - 03/16/06
Crew,
<<Eric>>
I appreciate your input.
<<My pleasure>>
I am going to leave the shark out of the mix.
<<You will both likely be happier for this.>>
It will get a little too big for my tank I think.
<<Me too>>
Now I think I will plan on a few tangs, a queen angel (my wife loves this fish),
a couple of pygmy angels, 5 to 7 green chromis, and a harlequin tusk. My new
question is on the harlequin tusk. I am not very familiar with this fish and I
have read differing opinions on compatibility, with some material indicating the
tusk will eat small fish and others saying it's safe. Can green chromis and
other small fish (clowns) be safely kept with a tusk?
<<In my experience/estimation, yes.>>
Thanks again!!!
Eric Skikiewicz
<<Quite welcome, EricR>>
Tusk Fish + Crustaceans (Shrimp) = Lunch for the Tusk 12/7/05
Hi guys, you have been a tremendous help to me in the past and I credit the long living fish in my (FOWLER) tank partially to your
guidance. I'm looking to add a Tuskfish to my community (2 true perculas, bi color angel, 4 small
engineer gobies).
<The tusk fish is in a different “class” than these potential tankmates. While the tusk is generally docile is does
possess the armory to put these guys through some stress.>
I have a prized 4 year old bull's-eye pistol shrimp who is about 5 inches long. I had previously put a flame angel into my tank and he
proceeded to gobble up a king's ransom in cleaner shrimp. He was however unable to get to the pistol because of his
subterranean refuge and snapping appendage. I’m wondering if this shrimp has what it takes to fend off the
predators more so than other shrimps do. Currently my pistol shrimp has taken residence inside a huge piece of
live rock in the tank. What do you
guys think? Is the pistol shrimp more apt to survive with such a predator?
<I have seen a Harlequin Tusk crack through the shell of a Tridacnid Clam, if it’s large enough and able to catch the shrimp…it will. Crustaceans and bivalve are the natural dies to of this specimen. If your attached to the shrimp I would not add the tusk fish.>
Thanks in advance.
<Welcome, Adam J.>
Cleanup Crew or Snack Item? 10/17/05
Hello,
<Hi there! Scott F. here today!>
What can I use for a "cleaning crew" in a tank that houses a Harlequin Tusk? I know all crustaceans are out, but how about snails? Thanks!
<As a wrasse fan, I can empathize with you! Snails are a potential snack, as well. I'd recommend the old siphon and a little bit of elbow grease...Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Harlequin Tuskfish... charging behavior 8/23/05
Hi Bob, I just bought my first Harlequin. No problems. but sometimes he
will open his mouth like a lion and swim like crazy to the top of the tank. He
will do it over and over in the same spot. It looks very strange. What do you
think? Thanks Rod.
<Mmm, could be a few things... best guess, that this fish is "acting out"...
challenging real or imagined (even you) other organisms, establishing its
"place"... But could be resultant from an injury (most Choerodon are caught hook
and line), that hopefully will heal. Bob Fenner>
Re: Harlequin Tuskfish
Thanks Bob, He is settling down more ever day.
<Ah, good. BobF>
Compatibility Issues, 5/16/05
I am looking to get a Harlequin tusk and miniatus grouper. Are these two fish able to be kept in the same system without fighting? Tank is only 100G
<No, a grouper is a bad choice for this size tank. You'd need to cram the tank full of live rock just to filter water behind this eating machine- But then where would the fish swim?>
Also question about groupers Which one would be the best to get with a harlequin tusk:
Miniatus Grouper
Red V-Tail Grouper
Which one is better for hardiness, adult size, and disease? Getting the tusk for sure but can't decided between these 2 groupers.
<The tusk will need to be small, and he'll get more aggressive as he matures. I would suggest a Kole Tang as a tankmate, or a small school of something innocuous. Good luck, Ryan>
Copperband butterfly, tusk & pinecone.
Hi Bob/Jason C, <<And hello to you.>>
All is going excellent with my tank and the tusk. Pinecone still does not want
to eat, at least I never saw him eating but the live feeder shrimp and fish and
being reduced everyday. I am assuming that the pinecone is eating them. The only
other fish in that 55qt tank is a female maroon clown and should not be able to
eat 8 feeder shrimp and 10 feeder live fish. Right ? <<I wouldn't think
so.>>
Pinecone is not going to be placed in the main tank (reef) for at least
another 2 weeks per your advise in other posts and mine that I read always.
Main tank (150G with 150lb LR) has 4 damsels, a lot of corals and tusk.
I saw a nice copperband butterfly and am interested in this beauty. Is he reef
safe. <<They "can be" but are also known to perish for lack of
proper food.>> I have brains, polyps, mushrooms, elegance, gorgonians,
leathers, flowerpot, torch, feather dusters, finger corals, red chili coral,
pink carnation and others like colt in the tank. <<You do know that the
carnation and flowerpot corals are almost impossible to keep in captivity? Some
people have limited success, and none without a specific regimen dedicated to
those particular species.>> I know he is difficult to feed and needs
proper acclimation and quarantine. Can he be placed in a reef tank like mine
with an Aussie tusk and pinecone? Tusk and pinecone should not
bother him but to what extent will be cause coral destruction if any. Do you
think it is safe to put him in a reef tank? <<There is no way to guarantee
something like this, but of all the Butterflies available, the Copperband is one
of the few that has a decent "reef-safe" success rate.>>
Will not proceed unless advised by you.
Many thanks,
Razi Burney
<<Cheers, J -- >>
Harlequin Tuskfish
Aloha
<<And aloha to you.>>
I am interested in the Harlequin Tuskfish but am getting some very diverse
opinions about tankmates/size of tank. <<Ok.>> I am about to
purchase a 90 gal and will have it as a Fish Only tank without live rock. I
would to buy some but Hawaii cant do it. Any ways I want to put some of my other
fish in with him (niger trigger, Picasso trigger, Singapore angel, flame hawk,
flame angel, blue spot Toby). <<That would be a very full tank - more
loaded than I would prefer.>> Just was wondering who would be the best to
put in with him or should I just skip the Tusk and put the other fish in the 90?
<<Well, Harlequin Tuskfish can grow up to about a foot or so, so a 90
isn't really going to make it in the long term. These are pretty tough fish, but
won't do well if over-crowded.>>
thanks and I love the CMA. Darren
<<Cheers, J -- >>
Harlequin Tusk & Pinecone Fish
Hi,
Many thanks for as always quick & professional advise. You guys are great
and are helping me and others a great deal. I am sure that several fish must be
thankful too.
<<Glad to hear...>>
I am thinking about adding a Pineapple/Pinecone fish to my tank that already has
tusk. I was unable to get the fish family for pinecone/pineapple <<I think
there are two that get imported with any regularity, Monocentrus japonicus and
Cleidopus gloriamaris.>> and its compatibility on the web and from your
database. Can you please provide some info on this and advise if this is a good
fish to have. <<Bob rates these as a 3 on the 1 to 3 scale, 3 being 'poor
to non-survivor'.>>
I have been told that he is a peaceful fish and is easy to care for. <<Is
true that these are peaceful, not so true about their captive care... many
problems with rough handling in capture, transport to your LFS.>> Not sure
about him till I hear from the tusk expert as my tusk is the most important in
my tank. Will not put the pinecone in the tank if he is not a good choice.
<<Well, certainly this would be a fine tankmate for the tusk... but, you
may find yourself well challenged to keep the pinecone fish.>>
Looking for some colorful, tusk compatible reef-safe fish. Having a difficult
time making the correct choice. Please help if possible.
<<Really, just about anything can live with a tusk except another tusk. I
would avoid puffers, triggers, and the like, but there are many, many other
choices.>>
I will not be getting another cleaner ever per your advise. Will get a goby
instead. Thanks for letting me know about that and it does make sense to leave
them in the natural reef systems. <<Fair enough.>>
Regards,
Razi Burney
<<Cheers, J -- >>
Harlequin Tusk ,Thalassoma Lunare, Butterfly and Emperor/Queen Angel
Hi again Anthony, Thanks for your reply even if it wasn't what I wanted to
hear! The reason I picked the Harlequin was because I read at WWM that to quote
"most everything leaves a harlequin tusk alone and vice versa" so I
thought I was reasonably safe with this
<generally true... but beyond tank size issues, mixing two wrasse species
(tusk and lunare) is quite risky just like mixing tangs or angels. More often
than not there is serious compatibility issues>
and they had a lovely one at the LFS!
<a gorgeous fish indeed>
They also said it would be fine with my existing wrasse and as I hadn't heard
back from you then (I think you were lecturing) I bought it and it is now in my
QT!
<wow... bummer. Hmm... what to do. Since you do have a QT, you can chance the
mix after QT, and be prepared to pull them if they scrap. This may mean tearing
the rockscape down. No guarantee that the victim will service the stress of it
all either. I'm also thinking in the long run.. lunare wrasses have a well
deserved reputation for turning out to be satanic once sexually mature. Now I
must decide what to do with him! Also I find that the "pearl"
butterfly I was asking about is actually a Redback butterfly
>according to Bob's book ,what can you tell me about this, is it timid like
the pearl or could I get that ?
<too timid indeed. In fact, there are very few butterflies that have a prayer
with this crowd of active feeders even if they are not aggressive. A Raccoon
butterfly may be one of the few with a chance>
regarding the Emperor or Queen are you saying never OR just never with this tank
size?
<I hate to say it... but they are all really dreadful mixes for the long run.
These angels are as aggressive or more so than the lunare wrasse after a year or
two. And we need to plan for the long run since these fishes live well over 10
years. Its like planning for space with a puppy: no great Danes when living in
an apartment. I see this fish dominating a 300 or 400 gallon aquarium in the 5
year plan. Indeed... I have seen quite a few in my lifetime do this very thing.
For aggression and your present tank size... no angels in my opinion>
I didn't strike very lucky with this list did I? Thanks again - Jenny
<alas, no my friend. You have picked many wonderfully hardy fishes... but too
many attitudes and too great a size even for the new tank. Best regards,
Anthony>
Adding A Tuskfish To The Mix
Hi there!!
<Helloooo! Scott F. on the late-night shift with you!>
I currently have a 75 gallon tank and will be upgrading to a 260 gallon DIY
tank.. tank and components are built .. I was using a wet/dry and skimmer..
going to DSB, live rock and skimmer(s) I currently have a Juvenile Emperor
angel, a Long Longnose butterfly, a volitans lion (all in the 3.5 -4"
range) and my newest addition (and great find) a blue ribbon eel (yes he eats
and is thriving after 2 weeks. although I had to devise an isolation method for
his food.. an acrylic tube with a "trap" at the end that contains his
food.. crawls right in and grabs his food, and is protected from all the other
aggressive feeders in the tank.. took him 3 days to figure it out).
<Ingenious idea! Glad that he's eating well...That's half the battle,
IMO!>
I am moving everything to the larger aquarium. I would like to add a
harlequin Tuskfish to my little family if possible.. what are your
thoughts?
<I think that the Harlequin Tuskfish is an amazing fish, if given the proper
tank conditions. It can be a rather aggressive fish, once it settles in.
However, in a reasonably competitive environment, such as yours, this fish can
settle in nicely and do very well. Keep in mind that the Tuskfish can get a bit
feisty once it establishes itself, and will harass new fishes for a while...In
the long run, it should be fine in this sized tank, but I don't think you'd be
able to add any more fishes at that point-the tank is going to be pretty well
stocked at this point...>
I would be using hermits and brittle stars as scavengers, thought of a spiny
lobster.. but afraid of the havoc he could cause with the eel.
<I'm thinking that you'd want to avoid the lobster. The snails- and the
hermit crabs will become expensive snacks for the Tuskfish.. Would the
Tuskfish max out the capacity of a tank this size? If not, what other
fish would you recommend as compatible with my particular mix? A
Radiata lion maybe? I am super excited about this new step.. but also want the
fish to be healthy and happy.
<I think that the Tuskfish can work fine in this tank, as would other larger
wrasses, such as the Coris family..> Frank
<Enjoy the tank, Frank- I'm sure that it will be fine! Regards, Scott F>
- Tuskfish -
Our local fish dealer has a beautiful harlequin tusk fish about 3 inch. long
I have a 135 gallon tank with live rock and some soft coral (2 fingers and 1
hammer) Is this fish compatible the books I have don't say. <Should be fine -
they are known to flip things over looking for food, but they don't 'eat' corals
if that is your concern. Cheers, J -- >
- Harlequin Tusk and Seastars -
I have a harlequin tusk and I would like to replace my crushed coral with
live sand. The only thing is that the sand needs to be shifted. Can I put sand
shifting stars and or other stars in with the harlequin? <I think the
harlequin tusk would be fine with these seastars, but I'm not really a fan of
them as they can deplete the live part of a live sand bed - the sand-sifting
stars that is.> I have put hermit crab in with him before but one by one he
picks them off. <Different case - these are easy food-prey for a Tuskfish.
Seastars don't really make for good eating unless you're a harlequin shrimp.>
What could I put in the tank that would shift the sand and not get eaten?
<How about a goatfish?> The harlequin is a wrasse so will he shift the
sand enough himself? <Uhh... probably not at all. Harlequin Tuskfish aren't
really buriers - they might flip over large pieces of substrate looking for food
but that's about it. > Thank you very much, Andy
<Cheers, J -- >
Wrasse Compatibility
Hello helpers of fish lovers.
<Hey there! Fellow fish-lover Scott F. here tonight>
I am setting up a 150 gallon FOWLR tank and wanted to make it an
aggressive species tank. I was wondering if it was possible to put a Green Bird
Wrasse (or any other Wrasse like a Thalassoma or Halichoeres) with a Harlequin
Tusk fish in my tank?
<Possible, yes, but not recommended. Both of these wrasses have somewhat
"strong" personalities, and there would be a certain amount of
battling at any given time. Also, they both reach impressive sizes, and a 150
would be too small to accommodate both for anything close to a natural life span,
IMO.>
I have read a few things about only one Wrasse per tank, but with a 150, is
there a way to do 2?
<Well, you could go with multiple Fairy Wrasses, Halichoeres species,
Macropharyngodon (Leopard) species, etc. But I would avoid mixing the species
that you are contemplating>
Which would be the best combo of these, which would be least likely to work out?
<One or the other, IMO. Start with a small one, and you'll have a beautiful
specimen of either in a couple of years>
If possible, which would you introduce first? Thank you
Brendgol Majewski
<Well, Brendgol- I'd choose the one you like best. Good luck! Regards, Scott
F>
Tankmate Tuskfish
Hi Bob,
Surfing through your site on wrasses I came across this beautiful
animal. In fact I saw one at the LFS not too long ago I hope it is still
available.
I never thought it is a good fish for the aquarium and after learning
from you I like to get my hand on it since it is compatible with my
clown trigger.
Can you share some ideas how to introduce the fish into the tank with a
clown trigger?
<I would try buying, introducing it on an early AM on a day when you could be
there to watch... should be fine.>
Is it expensive to own a Tuskfish in US? I'm not sure about the price
here.
<A good sized one (let's say 10 cm.) will run about one hundred US for a
Philippine specimen, twice that maybe for an Australian of quality>
At the moment, my clown is doing fine consuming live fresh water fishes,
shrimps and tetra bit.
How about some lettuces as fiber?
<Nah, a mess, source of pollutants and unnecessary... plenty of fiber in
other foods>
Indeed it is a beautiful fish to admire beside its boldness display in
the tank.
In fact, it do not bother the mushroom and leather coral at all and some
day I plan to get a chiller and add in more corals.
How about the soft corals with clown trigger?
<Worth trying>
Nice chatting.
David. >
<Good day. Bob Fenner>
Harlequin tusk
Hi! I have been reviewing a lot of articles on your web site because of the
research I am doing on the fish that I am interested in and would like your
advice before I do my purchasing.
<Okay>
I "currently" have a 75 gallon with only live rock and one gorgonian.
I have
20 pounds each of live sand and crushed coral.
I would love to have a harlequin tusk but also have others in mind. Please
help me with my list and tell me out of this list which would be the best for
me to keep, as far as compatibility goes and size and volume for the tank.
Thanks for you help. Robin
Harlequin Tusk
Blue headed wrasse (2-3, one male, two females)
Niger trigger
coral beauty
sand sifting starfish, (if at all possible)
lunar wrasse
Huma Huma trigger
<Hmm>
This would mean so much to me if you could tell me which way to go with this.
I listed the most important first and so on. These are all fish that I am
seriously interested in. I have kept seahorses for over a year now and am
passing on that trade to a very good friend so that I can go this route. I
love my seahorses and they have done extremely well but I would like to move
on to more active fish. Thanks Robin
<Seahorses take real discipline to keep... I'd leave off with the Seastar (Archaster)...
and likely one of the Triggers... Bob Fenner>
Tuskfish tankmates
Have a Huma trigger [3"] and a Holacanthus puffer [2"] - is the
Harlequin
Tuskfish a suitable tank mate provided the right size?
<Yes, along with a large enough system... at least a hundred gallons>
Am also planning a
goat-fish per your suggestion.
<You will enjoy this addition>
Also, do puffers eat anemones?
<Many can/do so. Bob Fenner>
TIA.
Re: tank mates
Really, a 75 would be too tight? With plans to upgrade to a 100+ within 6 to
8 months? Tank is overflow type with a tidepool2 sump, bio-balls in the overflow
and an AquaC EV 150 [per Jason Kim's suggestion]. 90+ lbs live sand and 15 lbs
of live rock [more LR coming soon].
Can hold out if I have to.
<I would. Bob Fenner>
TIA
J--
Harlequin Tusk... Angel and Aquarist behavior
Gentlemen,
Bob,
<hmmm...since Bob was addressed separate from your greeting... I take it
you've met him <wink> Anthony Calfo in your service>
I read your Harlequin Tusk article several times and my question
relates to the part that says that even the most incorrigible angels and
triggers don't sustain their aggression or to damage. Well I hope that
I'm not the exception but I fear I may be. I cleared out a few fish on
Sat and added a gorgeous Aust Tusk that was eating (and is) like a
champ. The problem is that my Emperor is pretty aggressive....he barks
at everything in there.
<ahhh, yes. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Your Emperor is a
nut>
Well that was Sat and this morning I saw the
angel still going after the tusk. So how do we define
"sustained"?
<the problem is that your Emperor needs to read Bob's article to know how it
should behave...Ha!>
And there has been some damage.......a few small split fins. Do I wait any
longer?
<my rule is three to five days of reasonable tolerance. Seven days on
exception. If aggression hasn't abated or if has led to actual wounds, separate
them. And a week is very generous... perhaps too stressful for some fish to
endure. Some may need to be extracted sooner. I'll trust your judgment in
observance of the actual fishes>
Will this mix just never work?
<very possible>
Thanks for the input. Rick
<best regards, Anthony>
Reef tank and tuskfish
I am at college right now in the Boston area studying marine biology and the
LFS that I work at currently has a small Australian tusk fish, Lienardella
fasciata (about 3 inch).
<Now placed in the genus Choerodon. Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/Choerodon/faciata.htm
and the FAQs beyond>
in my dorm room I have a 20 gallon long reef tank with about 40 pounds of live
rock and 30 pounds of live sand and run 2 55watt powercompacts on it. At home
(which I will be going back to in 3 weeks) I have a 75 reef with 125 pounds of
live rock and 90 pounds of live sand and run 4 96w powercompacts and a turbo
hang on skimmer with 3 yellow tail damsels. In both my tanks I have 0 ammonia 0
nitrates and 0 nitrites. I have two questions. I only run a skimmer on both of
my tanks along with a few power heads for water movement and rely on the live
rock and the skimmer for my filtration.
<Should be fine for low-stocked, low-fed, otherwise well-maintained
systems>
I was considering adding a bio-wheel
Powerfilter to my 20 long to add some filtration by using Chemi-pure. would
it be wise to remove the bio-wheels when adding them?
<I would leave it with unless it presents noticeable problems later on (like
excessive nitrates)>
I heard it can increase
your nitrites.
<"ates", not "ites">
my second question is I can with my discount and because they are on sale get
the tusk fish for around 50 dollars, which is considerably cheaper than usual.
the fish is already eating in our dealer tanks and is doing fine. would it be
ok to purchase him and put him in my 20 long (with only one convict goby right
now) for just 3 weeks until I can movie him to my 75?
<Mmm, yes... it might eat the Goby... raise metabolite concentrations>
if it wouldn't be a good
idea I understand its just I will never be able to purchase one at this price
ever again.
<I would not be so sure... But better than losing it>
I am well aware of the risk of a harlequin tusk in a reef but am
willing to take the chance I know plenty of people that have them in an
established reef) if room would be a problem I can take out about 10 pounds of
rock and put it in a holding tank back at the store. Any help would be great.
~Matt
<Be chatting my friend. Bob Fenner>
Re: Reef tank and Tuskfish
I cant believe how fast that response was, you guys are amazing!! By the way
I
have found you site to be an unbelievable help to me working at a LFS. People
are always coming into the store and requesting fish such as the dragon
wrasse and clown Sweetlips and are less than accepting to "take my word for
it" on how well they fare in captivity. Your site has been a great help in
backing up what I say about these fish to the customers who are only
interested in purchasing a fish based on looks without any knowledge of the
fish's actual needs and I readily give your web address to everyone who comes
into the store, thank you so much!
<Very glad to find the work of use>
I did go ahead and purchase that tusk fish for my 20 long and he is doing
great (already eating), but I think there might be a problem. I take great
care in examining my fish before I purchase it but I noticed something I didn't
see before I brought it home. There is a faint line (about the width of a
piece of hair) that runs down the length of its body. There is no making of it
around his head, it begins right at the very top tip of his gill slit and
continues all the way down to his tail. I am familiar with lateral line but
every case I have seen has been a much wider marking, this is unbelievably
thin, almost unnoticeable (unnoticeable it was under the dimmer lights of our
tanks at the store). Any help would be great on what you think this might be
and indeed if it is lateral line any suggestions above and beyond supplemental
feeding with iodine and vitamins? thanks again for all your help.
~Matt
<I have seen this "line" myself. Don't think it is anything to
worry about. Vitamin and HUFA enhancing foods is always a good idea. Bob
Fenner>
Harlequin Tusk Wrasse
Please advise the maximum size an Australian specimen of subject fish will
attain in a 100 gallon tank. Thanks, Stephen Pace
<You can find the info you wanted here http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/index.htm
-Steven Pro>
Re: Harlequin Tusk Wrasse
Many Thanks, Bob and how rapidly do they generally grow
<adult size in 3-5 years>
and is there a good way to reduce such maximum potential without harming the
fish's health?
<not without being cruel or risking stunting and premature death. The animal
is what it is and cannot be made to overcome evolution so easily>
Regards, Stephen Pace
<best regards, Anthony Calfo>
Tusk
Hey guys,
Would a Harlequin Tusk make quick work of a cleaner shrimp? Thanks.
PS....Hey Anthony!
Rick
<Please read over WetWebMedia.com re the specieshttp://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/faciata.htm.
Bob Fenner>
Re: Tusk
I know I know. I've read every marine section at least 2x. I was just hoped
that
the cleaner would have been recognized for the service it provides and be left
alone.
<More likely an expensive meal... I would try other cleaner species... You
know where to read about these I'll bet! Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Re: Tusk
My cleaner is already in the tank. I'm going to use selective FAQ reading
and use
the one where you told some guy that he could try a cleaner with a puffer and an
eel if he put the cleaner in first. I know the "general rule" is that
eels will
leave cleaner shrimp alone. I'm assuming that a Harlequin is about the same or
less of a threat then a puffer........?
<We'll, well at least you'll, soon see! Bob Fenner>
Re: Tusk
You won't tell me huh? If a neon goby would do better I'd take out my shrimp
and
put in a goby before the Tusk. My last response on this one.......sorry and
thanks
for your patience
<No worries... am sending you to Mr. Tusk (he couldn't get over his
admiration of Stevie Nicks) himself: Jason.C, for his further input. Jas? Bob
F>
Re: Tusk
<Greetings, Richard - JasonC here...>
My cleaner is already in the tank. I'm going to use selective FAQ reading and
use the one where you told some guy that he could try a cleaner with a puffer
and an eel if he put the cleaner in first. I know the "general rule"
is that eels will leave cleaner shrimp alone. I'm assuming that a Harlequin is
about the same or less of a threat then a puffer........?
<Well, I'll tell you... I've got a tusk fish, and I've got a cleaner shrimp,
and they're in the same tank. The tusk does idle-up for a cleaning every now and
then, and sometimes the shrimp obliges. Now the question I can't answer is how
long that will last. In the wild, shrimps are normal Choerodon fare so the trick
is to keep the tusk well fed I suppose. It's an expensive meal on the day the
tusk decides he is still hungry. Same would go for the puffer, and likely a
similar threat. You'd have much better long term results with a neon goby - have
seen a lot of tusk-cleaning this way. Good luck. Cheers, J -- >
Re: Tusk
Thanks for the help Jason.
I figure as much. I guess nothing is guaranteed in a captive environment. Since
I
already have a very productive cleaner shrimp, I'll take my chances there. My
Emperor loves that shrimp. Puffer's don't interest me.......I just want a
Harlequin Tusk really bad. I'll take a shot, if he offs my shrimp I'll try to
sneak a goby in there one night.
You guys are the best.
Rick
<Real good. Keep us tuned in. Bob Fenner>
Harlequin Tuskfish
Bob, I would like to get your advice on purchasing the Harlequin Tuskfish for my
125 gal. "Fish Only" tank. First, I want to know what to look for in a
Quality fish? and if I could keep more than one in the same aquarium?
<like most "wrasses", they can be very aggressive to like kind. A
buddy is unlikely. The best (most colorful and hardy... read: not cheap drug
caught Philippine product) come from Australia. Do pursue an Australian Tuskfish
for your first choice. They are stunning!!! More red than orange>
I have an 8" Snowflake Moray, 2.5" Longnose Hawkfish , two small Blue
damsels and plan on adding a small Zebra Moray and Valentini puffer. What do you
think? Thanks, Tom
<A strange mix... the contrast between adult sizes is not good long term
planning. The zebra and tusk are monsters while the puffer, damsels and hawkfish
are eventually going to be Tusk food (1-3 year picture). Worse still.. the
puffer flesh is toxic and can kill the tusk if molested/eaten. Please
reconsider... although as adults, the eel and tusk take up most all of the
bio-load for a tank your size. Best regards, Anthony Calfo>
Re: Harlequin Tuskfish
Anthony,
Thanks for your reply! I did give thought to your advice on the long term size
difference between fishes. I have reconsidered the Tuskfish and Zebra Moray, and
opted for a Lunar Wrasse instead.
<arghhhh! I hate to pick bones with you but I would be remiss if I didn't
speak up. You haven't gained any ground at all with the T. lunare wrasse. If
anything you have lost ground. The adult size of a Tuskfish is cited at 30 cm
(12"). The adult size of a Lunar wrasse is cited at 25-30 cm (10-12")
and I have personally seen them slightly larger! Plus, lunar wrasses become
aggressive in aquaria... much more than Tuskfish. You need to at least reference
these fish in an atlas first, my friend, before buying them>
I now have in the tank a collection of an 8" Snowflake Eel, Longnose
Hawkfish, a Valentini Puffer, 2 Yellowtail Blue Damsel fish, 4 Hermit crabs and
the Lunar Wrasse.
<everything listed after the snowflake eel can easily be eaten by the Lunar
wrasse within 18 months. Starting with the hermits... they are a natural food
for large wrasse species.>
They all are doing really well, although the damsels can be somewhat aggressive
at times. I've tried to include a variety of fish that occupy their own little
niche in the aquarium and that would not eventually consume one another, what do
you think of this combination?
<I'm sorry to be the messenger... I know that you certainly mean well and
want a successful tank>
Also, the damsels appear to be two different shades of blue, one more lavender
and the other more of an electric blue, could it be a sex difference?
<actually... one already knows the wrasses long-term plan is scared...hehe>
And lastly, what could you recommend that would add to what I have so far?
<yes... a referee. Seriously, though... a smaller wrasse species would be
great. There is a lot of information on this site in the archives and in Bob's
book that describe ideal fish species including wrasses. take a look at some of
these before you leap next>
Thanks Again, Tom
<I wish you the best, Anthony>
Harlequin Tuskfish and Lunare Wrasse
Bob,
<Anthony Calfo in your service>
I'm currently moving some fish out of an 80 tall and realized that when I'm done
all that will be left is a 4 inch Lunare Wrasse and a 2 inch blue spot
puffer.
<a bit odd as the Lunare wrasse will dwarf the "Toby" (blue spotted
puffer) by nearly a foot as an adult. The Toby is also toxic and may kill the
wrasse if it ever gets an inclination to eat it>
I've read the FAQs and asked around on the web and I'm trying to find out if a
Harlequin Tusk fish would get along in an 80 tall (4 foot by 18 inches by 24
inches tall) with a Lunare Wrasse. My assumption is that I'd have to get a
similarly sized tusk fish to match the Wrasse.
<as two members of the wrasse family, there is a good chance that they will
fight. Even if they don't, both max out as adults at around a foot long and will
be too big for the tank within 2 years if they are kept well>
Of course the LFS says "Yeah sure" and I tend to trust her because
she's never steered me yet but I just want to make sure that I'm not hearing yes
because she sees a $150 sale.
<I disagree for the long-term>
What are the odds that the tusk fish will go after crabs, shrimp and snails?
<very good... they are natural prey. I feed mine live crayfish in part>
I realize the puffer does but I'm not overly attached to him and the LFS is
amenable to a trade for credit on this little guy.
<do consider trading him in for mid sized sturdy fishes for the wrasse in the
long term. Best regards, Anthony>
David Rencher
Re: Harlequin Tuskfish and Lunare Wrasse
I thank you.
<very welcome!>
Everyone else has been flat out "No way man, Tusk Fish get to like 3
feet"
<really even 12" is large... 8" in three to five years would be
expected...still a big fish though and one to be reckoned with (filtration,
feeding, etc)>
At least you've given me an informed answer and some food for thought. I like
the Toby but I really dig start fish and my little Toby just chows down if he
gets a chance... so I'm thinking he may be gone soon.
<agreed>
The only reason I'm keeping the Lunare is because he's a bit bigger than the
reputable LFS will take on trade.
<actually, I love this fish! Gorgeous as an adult and incredibly
hardy!!!...just a bit large and aggressive for most tanks>
She's afraid he might be TOO big and the LFS that will take him has no problem
with putting him in a tank that's HORRIBLY infected with ich.
<some people/LFS seem to make money in spite of themselves (sheesh)>
So... I'll have to do some thinking here. The odds are I will upgrade to a
larger tank in the next little while. Or at least a similar sized tank to the
house (I'm single, nobody cares how many tanks I have) so it would be possible
in a few years to move one of the wrasses...
<excellent... and on the basis that you can find a home one way or another
for certain (and have a small QT tank necessary in the meantime) I could agree
with a cautious mix of the two creatures (sending one to QT/penalty box...heheh...
if necessary>
Thanks for the input... I'll continue the research. I'm 2 months away from being
ready to add any fish anyway. (I've decided to go really slow on migrating the
existing fish into the new tank in order of hardiest fish first.)
<very wise... best of luck, Anthony>
Re: Harlequin Tuskfish
Anthony,
Thanks so much again for your quick replies to my e-mail questions! I also want
to thank you and this website for all the great information. It is very helpful
and interesting!
<Steven Pro answering a few emails on this holiday weekend. I am glad we
could be of assistance and I am sure Anthony will see your thank you on the
Daily page.>
I have been doing more research on the fishes I plan on keeping in my FO
aquarium before I stock it any more.
<A very good idea. Always best to create a wish list of all intended fish
first.>
Previous to finding this website, I have been acquiring info on the fish from
the Marine Fishes book by Scott W. Michael and from my LFS.
<I like the book, too.>
The book is great for quick reference but it does not go into much detail, and
at the LFS, it seems like I talk to a new salesman every time I go in. So from
now on I think I'll stick to your site for advice before I make any more
mistakes!! Right now I am observing the activities of the fish very closely and
they seem to be doing fine. The Lunar Wrasse is only about 2 1/4" long
right now and is the same size or smaller than the rest of it's tankmates
(besides the 2 damsels), which may give me some time to determine who will go
and who will stay in the final set-up! I still would like to acquire the
Tuskfish in the near future even if I have to set-up another FO tank, but for
now I will keep on researching and studying!
Thanks once again, Tom
<You are quite welcome. -Steven Pro>
Tusk and Angel
Thanks Anthony,
I trust your judgment as your advice has proved time and time again to be the
truth.
<experience is the best teacher to my chagrin sometimes <smile>
Well Yesterday was day 3 and when I came home from work at about 6:30, there was
a pretty nice chunk taken from the tusks back fin and he seemed to be losing his
resolve.
<I would too...heehee>
I killed the lights and covered the tank this morning so it will be pitch black
all day. The violence seems significantly less in the dark.
<maybe we should try that in the Middle east?>
Bottom line is that this can't go till tomorrow. I'm milling a few options over
now: 1) Return the Tusk tonight......use the credit to get something else this
weekend......problem is I think at this point the Emperor just won't tolerate
anyone new.
<nope...too stressful on an already stressed fish. It may kill him and what a
shame it would be to lose this living jewel>
2) Bring the Emperor in and have my LFS guy hold him for a week or two and then
bring him back.....I noticed that fish that were in my tank before him were
basically OK.
<nope... the angel is what it is>
3) Bring the Emperor back and get a new smaller angel that has nice color as
well (Majestic.....I can handle it)........
<not my vote either... rather pot luck to do so>
Problem here is that this Emperor is SPECTACULAR, eats out of my hand, but is he
just too big and mean for this tank now?
<but magnificent I'm sure... I'd hate to part with him too>
4) Bring back the Tusk and don't add anything (this is the one you'll say I'm
sure)......
<surprise... nope again. Moving this tusk would be my absolute last
choice>
just a bit depressing to think I can never add another fish until I get a bigger
tank,
<how about a smaller/mid sized tank that you can use as a larger QT for just
such emergencies... perhaps a 30long? That's my vote for at least the 3 to six
month picture to stabilize the tusk and give the poor fella a fighting chance to
service having made it all this way from collection>
not to mention the fact that I moved 2 fish out in preparing for the tusk so
it'll be more empty. What do you think friend? Any of those options you like
BESIDES #4?
<yes... definitely a bigger QT/isolation tank for the angel or tusk (assuming
they fit comfortably alone in say a 30long. A simply sponge filter and some live
rock would be just fine with twice monthly small water changes most likely.
Really a lot less expensive than watching either fish die or you getting hosed
on a stressful trade in (for you and the fish <wink>)>
Thanks. Rick
Best of luck, my friend, Anthony>
Harlequin Tusk & Bird Wrasse
Hi Bob,
<JasonC here, greetings.>
I've got a coral tank with clams in it. Beautifully decorated in a 4 feet tank.
<Good deal>
Now I've fallen in love with the Harlequin Tusk and Green Bird Wrasse.
<understandable, both just absolute lookers... the Choerodon fasciata being
one of my personal favorites.>
Checked around and been getting contradictory views on whether I can put them in
my coral tank.
Some say YES and some say NO WAY.
<'Could' and 'should' being two different answers.>
Have a friend who has a HT in his coral tank for a year and he has not been
biting off any of his precious corals. Well behaved indeed much like what you
wrote in your site.
<Well behaved for a fish who doesn't eat corals in the wild...>
I'm confuse if I can have them in my tank or otherwise. Kindly advise and
thanks. Steve
<Well, the quick answer is no... it's not wise, mostly because the choice of
tankmates in a "reef" system tend more towards the small scale and
docile behavior. Even though either of these fish would be the passive member of
a fish only system, they would be the most boisterous member of a reef system.
Both grow to over a foot, and take up every bit of that space which means you
would need to upgrade that tank sometime in the future if you wanted to keep the
fish for any time. In addition, both are strong, fast swimmers and their darting
can be disconcerting to less motile tank members. This same speed can make it
hard to compete for food if you're not a Tusk or Bird Wrasse but instead living
with one. Likewise, their taste for certain invertebrates is not good news for
small bivalves, worms, copepods, and various shrimp that one might want to
keep/encourage in a reef system. Would
a tusk sample a Tridacnid? Probably not if well acclimated to daily feedings,
but would that same tusk flip over a frag or two looking for food? For a
certainty, it will happen. So are either of these fish a good choice for a coral
and clam tank? No. Could you build a mixed system of photosynthetic gorgonians
and a tusk fish? That could work well. Hope that helps... Cheers, J -- >
Harlequin Tusk & Bird Wrasse
Hi Bob,
<Anthony Calfo in your service>
I've got a coral tank with clams in it. Beautifully decorated in a 4 feet tank.
Now I've fallen in love with the Harlequin Tusk and Green Bird Wrasse.
<both magnificent fishes... neither are remotely responsible to put in a reef
tank>
Checked around and been getting contradictory views on whether I can put them in
my coral tank. Some say YES and some say NO WAY.
<no way doesn't begin to describe how bad the choice is. They do not eat
coral at all. But their endless search and curiosity for crustaceans (shrimp,
crabs... desirable in the reef at times) amplified by their large adult size
(both approaching a foot) lends them to wreak havoc by randomly flipping coral
over and off of the rockscape. I would regard their addition as unlikely to
succeed in most tanks and irresponsible especially if one has LPS corals (brain,
bubble, torch, elegant, etc>
Have a friend who has a HT in his coral tank for a year and he has not been
biting off any of his precious corals.
<that's because they don't ever eat coral... just crustacea in the wild...
and his tusk is almost certainly still young/too small to toss larger heads of
coral to look underneath yet (its under 6"... perhaps 4" or less?)>
Well behaved indeed much like what you wrote in your site.
<yep... with other fishes in general>
I'm confuse if I can have them in my tank or otherwise. Kindly advise and
thanks. Steve
<best regards, Anthony>
Harlequin Tusk
<Greetings, JasonC here.>
Read your article of the harlequin tusk and cannot resist getting one in my
tank. I have been shopping for an Australian since last week but just cannot get
it. Do you know of some place where I can purchase this beauty for my tank ?
<try both of our site sponsors, Flying Fish Express and Marine Center.
If I recall they both have Australian Tusks on sale.>
I am providing my setup below. Can you please see if this fish will is a fit for
my tank.
1 lionfish - 4"
1 Blueface angel - 4"
3 sand sifting stars
2 brittle stars
2 red fire shrimp - 2"
Inverts like crabs and snails (Will be tusk's snack eventually - per your
article)
Mushrooms
Flowerpot
Plate
Toadstool
Leather
3 Featherduster
Brown Polyps
2 Brain Coral
Colt
Elegance
150 lb Liverock
4" sandbed
150 Gallon tank
Skimmer
Micron Filter Tank conditions within standard guidelines
Will a tusk eat all corals ?
<The tusk won't eat any corals. It might flip over a frag looking for
something else to eat, but it won't eat corals.>
What is a replacement of the inverts that he will eat up ?
<Replace in what way?>
Exactly what inverts will be go for ?
<They like shrimp, crabs, and small bivalves.>
Can he live with the lion and a Blueface angel ?
<I think so, in a 150, yes.>
I have a panther grouper but he stays in a smaller tank. These get too big
and cause problems later down the road.
<That won't last for long as these groupers get very large, as you know. As
long as you don't add the grouper to the 150, all should be fine.>
Can you recommend a fish that I can keep after the tusk as my fourth. I
would like to have at least 4 fish in there if my tank can handle the bio-load.
<I think your tank could handle it. Many, many choices... avail yourself to
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/ >
Please advise. Just can't wait for this fish in my tank as I am looking for
attractive/colorful fish. I am sure that this is the fish that will be my center
piece (Only if I can find one).
<And harlequin tusks are all that... one of my favorite fish.>
My LFS is trying to talk me into a Philippine species but I am not going
for it until you tell me to. <Both this season and last I have seen many good
looking tusks hail from the Indo Pacific. You might want to consider it if the
price for an Aussie tusk is too dear.>
I read your opinion about them and am staying away from it. Will buy from
internet if you know some trusted source.
<Check the above ref. All and all the tusk is a very hardy fish. Do have a
good quarantine tank set up in advance to hold this fish for a couple of weeks
before releasing into the display system.>
Many thanks in advance. Will wait for your response.
Razi Burney
<You are welcome. Cheers, J -- >
Room for a Tusk?
Gentlemen:
<Greetings to you.>
I am debating about adding a Harlequin tusk to my 125G FO w/out LR tank.
Current inhabitants are as follows:
1 Hippo tang (6")
1 Foxface (6")
1 Kole tang (4")
1 percula clown
1 Banggai cardinal
1 Arabian Pseudochromis
The first 4 fish have been in the tank for almost 3 years, with the last two in
about 1 year. <Gosh... in my view of the world, that's a full tank. Given the
fact that tusks can grow to over a foot, as can your Foxface and hippo tang, I'd
lean towards suggesting against it. As an aside, I'd be most concerned about a
run-in with the venomous Foxface, which would end badly for the incoming
tusk.>
The LFS has a beautiful specimen which he says is from Australia. The
stripes are very blue, I realize not totally indicative of being Aussie, but a
perhaps a sign. The cost is $90. <That's a low price at LFS for an Aussie
tusk, but... it could very well be. How's your tank for hiding spaces?>
I would appreciate your assessment.
<A 135 is not a small tank, but it may be too small for three fish who are
still growing... tusks are fairly easy going, as are the fish you listed, but
the tusk will be the newcomer to a well-established group. If you really want
this fish, I'd make sure you have lots of live rock for swimming through, and
hiding under. You may also want to rearrange the rock before you introduce the
tusk so that the tusk doesn't snag someone else's spot, so to speak. Also, plan
to quarantine the tusk for a month or more until you are positive it is familiar
with you and your feeding habits. This will help ease the transition to the
display which is pretty much guaranteed to not be hassle-free.>
Thanks,
Mitch
<Cheers, J -- >
Re: Can I have 2 harlequin tusks ?
Hi Bob,
<Greetings, Razi - JasonC here.>
I am still trying to find an Australian tusk. Checked with one distributor on
internet and he is telling me that they have not seen one for about 4 months. Do
they come only in a specific season ? <Not as far as I know, but they do seem
more 'around/available' in the summer months. Did you check with Marine Center -
they report to have a 4" Aussie tusk available.> Also, Can I have 2
harlequin tusks in a 150 gallon reef tank? <No, that's not really enough
space.> Since they love crustaceans like crabs and snails, what would be one
of the replacements for the lost inverts. Crabs and snails do good cleanup job
but I am sure that there are other alternatives available in their absence.
<Your own elbow grease, perhaps. But seriously, a tusk isn't going to eat a
snail that is too large to fit in it's mouth. You should be able to keep some
vestige of a clean-up crew and not fear retaliation from the tusk.>
I would like to keep in Philippine and one Australian if you think that they can
coexist. <No, I don't think they will co-exist.> They will be tankmates
with a tang that I have yet to purchase.
I am so much in love with this tusk that I will change my setup if needed.
<Just change your plan for two to one, and all will be well.>
Will keep corals as he does not graze on them. Will use coral glue as tusks can
knock them down if needed. <it's not an issue of glue but the size of the
things most people glue the corals to.> Please advise if this will be a
mistake. <Again, with the exception of wanting to house two tusks, you are on
the right track.>
Regards,
Razi Burney
<Cheers, J -- >
Re: Will Harlequin Tusk eat starfish and serpent stars ?
Hi JasonC,
<Good day!>
Many thanks for so much information so fast. I will be keeping one
Australian tusk only as advised by you. Forgot to ask a couple of other
questions. Here they are:
Q. Will harlequin tusk eat starfish and serpent stars? if no, Any chances of HT
hurting the stars and serpents? <The chances are very low to non-existent
that a tusk would harm a sea star.>
Q. Should I feed him live gold fish or give him frozen shrimp ? Any
preference or advise to keep him healthy and well fed will help. <Absolutely
no live feeders. These fish are very open-minded when it comes to food, and you
should do fine with frozen krill, shrimp, clams, squid, and Mysis. Perhaps throw
in something green once in a while - like Formula Two. Just mix it up, keep the
diet varied.>
I have contacted "The Marine Center" and am placing the order Tuesday.
Spoke with them and they do have Australians in stock. They priced it at $119
for a large. Do you think this is an Australian as you mention that price is the
best guide for these species. <Well, they are also on 'special' and Marine
Center has a solid reputation for the fish they ship/sell. I'm quite confident
that you will get a healthy Aussie tusk.>
Many thanks in advance. You guys are great.
Regards,
Razi Burney
<Cheers, J -- >
Re: Tusk acting aggressive
Hi Bob, <Actually, it's JasonC... again.>
Tusk has been doing very normal since last week in the tank and has been
swimming around and eating great. Health looks great and I am keeping my water
conditions excellent. He usually eats 2 times a day (Formula 1 - 2 cubes at one
time). Total cubes he takes a day is 4 and sometimes misses 1 cube as they fall
behind the rocks and are consumed by other inverts like stars and serpents.
I have seen him aggressive against green serpent star but you mentioned that he
will hardly go after sea stars. Can you please confirm. <I'm sure this is
possible, but not a sign that the tusk will eat it. Just trying to show it who's
boss, like the seastar cares or something...>
Added a Sohal tang (3") today. They both did not like each other in the
first 10 minutes as tang wanted to take his home away. I see both fishes trying
to take the space that was originally chosen by the tusk. Sohal Tang is not
really going after him but does not like him close either. Since then the tusk
has been swimming aggressively and is all over the tank. His swimming patterns
are aggressive and is swimming at all levels. Occasionally swims very fast which
I have never seen him doing this before the tang was introduced. I have shut
down the lights to ease the tension. Is there something that needs to be
addressed. <Perhaps you don't have enough hiding places? These things usually
take a couple of weeks to a month to work themselves out. How large is this
system? You could be on the small side with the addition of another
power-swimmer.> Salinity and all other water conditions are fine. Tusk's
aggressive swimming pattern has made other small fish like damsels hide behind
the rocks. He slows down for a while and then goes again. In most of these cases
Sohal tang is not even close but is in eye sight. Any advice will be helpful.
What should I do next ? <Be patient... you haven't had either fish really
that long, and you need to give these time to work themselves out. You could
also rearrange the furniture in the tank, to break up existing territories.>
Many thanks in advance.
<Cheers, J -- >
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