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FAQs on the Minnows called Barbs, Danios and Rasboras Selection

Related Articles: Barbs, Danios & RasborasA Barbed Response; Wrongly maligned for being fin-nippers, barbs are in fact some of the best fish for the home aquarium by Neale Monks

Related FAQs: Barbs, Danios, Rasboras 1, Barbs, Danios, Rasboras 2, B,D,R Identification, B,D,R Behavior, B,D,R Compatibility, B,D,R Systems, B,D,R Feeding, B,D,R Disease, B,D,R Reproduction,

Danio albolineatus, the Pearl Danio... very easygoing.

Adding fish 8/27/09
I have 2 angel fish and 2 Bolivian rams in on tank, would it be ok to add 2 Danios?
Malwina
<In theory, yes, this species mix should be fine. But Danios should be kept in groups of 6 or more specimens. In smaller groups, Danios are aggressive and can be nippy, e.g., nipping the fins of the Angelfish. This also depends on the size of the tank. Two Angels, two Bolivian Rams, and 6 Danios would need a tank at least 20 gallons in size, and ideally 30 gallons or larger. Cheers, Neale.>

Are Galaxy Rasboras really being captive bred? 3/31/09
Hello,
<Hi,>
Last week, I came across a few Galaxy Rescores at one of our local box stores for $10 each - pretty steep. I have never seen these in any of our LFS. I was interested in getting a few to go with our new Betta in an established 10 gallon planted tank and started doing some homework. He is all red and the Galaxy Rescores would be spectacular with him. From everything I read online, I can provide parameters suitable for this fish.
<Great.>
In my research, I came across all the controversy on the web about how endangered they are or might be and wanted to get the straight talk from a reliable source that might have more current info.
<The problem is little news on stuff that matters, let alone tropical fish, comes out of Burma. It's a closed country. News on new populations come from the Burmese fishery agency, and who knows how honest they are when it comes to hard currency-earning exports such as these fish. Our own governments essential delude themselves all the time on things like Cod fisheries, so I'd have to assume the Burmese government is just as bad, if not worse.>
I found only a few threads on WWM regarding these fish, but none mentioned them being in an endangered status.
So here goes:
To the best of your knowledge, is there a real problem for these little fish as far as being over-fished in their native habitat?
<No one knows for certain, but is certainly probable, and there are reliable reports the original location was overfished very quickly.>
Or was it just a story that got started to drive the prices up?
<No.>
A lot of what I read says that the breeding habits of these fish is not well known, so would it be safe to assume that they might not actually be many breeders having a lot of success even 2 years since their discovery?
<That the fish can be bred, and that it is actually being bred on a commercial scale are different things. Cardinal tetras can be bred, yet virtually all the cardinals in the hobby are wild-caught. For so long as the demand is there, and the price of wild fish is less than captive bred fish, the market will take wild fish in preference.>
I also read that the Myanmar Govt. has banned all exportation of these fish, but we all know it happens.
<Quite.>
I called the corporate offices of the store to ask if they were captive bred, or wild caught. I didn't say which I was looking for. The woman said she would check and get back to me. She called back a few hours later and said they were indeed captive bred in Florida, which is where I am.
<May well be, but to be honest, I'd not trust that without knowing the breeder's name; unless they're speaking to an informed branch of the Press, "marketing" people tend to have, let's say, a flexible relationship with
the truth.>
I neglected to ask for the name of the breeder, but that might have been considered proprietary information and she might not have told me anyway. So I had no way to verify that they are indeed captive bred.
<Indeed.>
So in your opinion, would this be a reasonable choice of fish to add to our Betta tank?
<Possibly; Bettas prefer warmer, stiller water to these Danios, which prefer cooler, somewhat flowing water, much like other Danios. So while I dare say you could mix them, it wouldn't be my first choice.>
If so, do I just go for it and in giving them a new home, we could try to breed them and help out this little fish breed in our small way?
<If they're captive bred, then keeping/breeding them would certainly be worthwhile.>
Or do I assume they are wild-caught and boycott as so many articles suggest?
<Rather than assume either way, see if you can confirm they're captive bred. In the meantime, do see here:
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1267 >
As always - Thanks again.
Sandy
<Cheers, Neale.>

Green Tiger Barbs - at a loss...   3/16/06
Bob,
<Ralph>
I've a 90 gallon that I recently switched back to freshwater.  Original intent was to have mostly cichlids, again.  Only real aggressive fish was to be a Green Terror ( my last was essentially a peacekeeper who bothered no one except feeders though he got to be 10").
<Yikes!>
Looking at some other sites I found a couple decent compatibility lists and have also ended up with some barbs as well.
<Easygoing ones/species I trust>
The only problem I keep having is the loss of green tiger barbs.  I've lost seven from three different batches from the same LFS.
<Mmm, know that these are sometimes "wanky" from dealers... are raised in the Far East, often "hormone treated" to boost color... That this degrades their health otherwise... often lost on/near arrival anomalously...>
I've currently 3 more from another store - one has nipped fins and is acting a little odd.  As for the goners- two for sure had nipped fins especially dorsal tail.  The last two had upper fins that looked like they were flaying/separating - like a feather and for a week or so I would catch the one upside down as if dead until another fish would come near!  No signs of any Ick, Fungus, rot or anything else apparently wrong.
I am at a loss as to what is going on- the goners were the largest of the Barbs..  I've two Albino Tiger Barbs, four Tiger barbs,
<And these are the same species... mixable>
two rosy, one gold and four longer (tigerish) barbs.  They have been doing great and most have been in the tank since the beginning (@3 months).  Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates are great.  Ph and Temp acceptable for all.
I've also two Giant Danios, one Plecostomus, one Green Terror, one Jewel Cichlid, a pair of Rainbow Cichlids, one small Firemouth, a Cat, and a couple 1/2-3/4" Africans. ( .99 cent sale).
<Mmm, well, the cichlids might be working the new Green Barbs woe...>
They are feed a variety of dried, pellet, flake, frozen and live food.  Today I bought more live Brine shrimp and some feeder guppies.  The largest fish are one of the Danios and the Rainbows 3" - 3 1/2".
Other than feeder guppies I've lost no fish other than the aforementioned Green Tiger Barbs.
Plenty of caves, plants and wood for hiding.
Thanks for your time.
Ralph L Thieleman
<I encourage you to "harden" a new batch of these barbs... buy, place them in another tank, moving water from your ninety for water changes... for a few to several weeks. When transferring to your main tank, do move about the decor items there (to disrupt territories, impose a new dynamic)... If there is "psychological" as well as metabolic room for them all, this should do it. Bob Fenner>

Re: Green Tiger Barbs - at a loss...      3/17/06
Bob,
<Ralph>
Thanks for the reply.
<Welcome>
I still don't understand why only the green ones.  I had them First, in-between and now last.  I see no one harassing them.  With the first ones I did see them bothering each other.  I see the longer Barbs "playing" and chasing each other as well as cichlids chasing other cichlids.
<I do believe these "green" sports are less hardy than their brethren period...>
I again have a green that since his lower tail looks chewed has become more solitary the past week but I've another green now that his top fin looks likes  it is fraying like some others had.
One of them looked like he was sideways at the top last weekend as well.  Why only the greens?
<Genetics? Poorer care in Singapore where they very likely originated?>
Some cichlids have had their tails chewed on by other cichlids.  One even lost an eye.  No deaths.  Just Green Tiger Barbs.  And again I see no signs of them getting picked on even by each other, especially with these last three.
<Perhaps the green ones are more "attractive" to whoever may be harassing them (likely the Terror, at night)... This is a common phenomenon (differential mortality/predation based on color, markings... a fave thesis project some years back)>
If I lose these I'll most likely give up on that variation.
Thanks again,
Ralph L Thieleman
<I don't blame you... There are other species of barbs... though your system is over-stocked psychologically now... Bob Fenner>

The Ethics of Glo-Fish (TM) (6/5/05) Hiya Bob, <<Howdy. RMF>>
I just finished reading the article on the Glo-fish, and I was wondering if it would be possible to ask the author if he considers every breed of dog, most breeds of milk and beef producing cattle, and probably 80% or better of all of the grains and fruits he eats as also being 'garbage' due to the fact that they are also man induced 'mutations' (yes, the method may be different, but the intent and process is the same and similar-one is just more 'trial and error, after all, no?) For the record, I also don't like the idea of Glo-fish, or painted chandas, but plenty of folks hate telescopes, black moors, fancy guppies and swords for just as legitimate reasons. <Agreed> I can understand a POV of distaste and dislike, I was just wondering what selective bias the author uses to determine which of our obvious genetic alterations are 'garbage' and why? ;) (heh, maybe I should write a counter point article for submission, playing devil's advocate) <All submissions are welcome for consideration. You will have to use a lot better grammar than you did in this e-mail. Please capitalize the proper noun "I" and the first letter of sentences. We post all e-mails and replies. It's a lot easier for folks to read them if they are punctuated properly. If you do it then we can spend less time proofreading and more time answering.> Keep up the good work-been observing your website for years, all the best!
Alan
<Thanks. The author of the article is not a member of the question-answering crew, so I do not know how to contact him. I do agree with you on this issue. I have nothing against Glo-Fish (TM) myself. They were created to serve a utilitarian purpose (pollution detection). If there is a side benefit of providing pretty fishes that have not been chemically burned and dyed, that's great from my perspective. I have no problem with GM foods either. I say you're right that there is no difference in principle between this and selective breeding. It's only method and speed. In fact, GM is better because the planning will lead to fewer bad mutations. It just needs to be properly regulated. As for the other fish you mention, I have qualms about some of them. If fish are selectively bred for appearance, I only have a problem if that creates a deformity that impairs the fish or causes pain. Some of the fish sold these days definitely suffer as a result of their selectively-bred appearance. That's my opinion, for what it's worth. Steve Allen>

Fish type (freshwater livestocking)
Sir I am trying to figure out what type of fish to put in with my Cory cat's that will like current to swim in not just still water. I am using a fluval404 one end and a Hagen 802 powerhead with a Quickfilter on the other end of my 55gal.tank. The two filters are set on wide open. At this time I have tetras they are being used to seed the tank along with the Cory Cats. the 404 has ball valves to cut down the if need be. I want something that has some color. I was thinking about some barbs-Danios-rasp. If they would get along with the Cory's. If not I can adjust the current down and add something different. Thank You
<Your plan to include barbs, Danios and rasboras sounds great... http://wetwebmedia.com/barbsdaniosrasboras.htm
Hopefully easier going ones if this is the temperament of your current Tetras. Bob Fenner>

GloFish Question
Bob,
<Yep>
Wondering if we can get your opinion on the GloFish fluorescent zebra Danios?  They look amazing, esp. for freshwater (n fact, even better than some marine species).  Could you comment?  If you haven't heard of them yet, they are at www.glofish.com and http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=3873977§ion=news has a good article.
Thanx!
Sandi
<Have seen these transgenics... a whole bunch at last times Aquarama in Singapore... a neat scientific application... but para mi, "no sale"... too pricey. Bob Fenner>

Re: GloFish Question
Bob,
Thanks so much for your time.  I think I'll go with the GloFish even at the price.  They look to cool to pass up.
Sandi
<They are very beautiful, and a very interesting "story" to relate re their "genetic clip-on" technology. Bob Fenner>

- Preparing Saltwater & Tiger Barbs -
Howdy All!
I have a 75g saltwater tank, and I pre mix RO water a week in advance.  I store the water in a 5 gallon bucket.  The bucket has heater and a Maxi-Jet powerhead on top with the venture thing hooked up, with the output pointing at the water surface.  Is this optimal? <It's just fine... exactly what I do, except that I use a trash can.> Would an air stone in the bottom be better? <Would help only minimally... the powerhead is doing the lion's share of the work.> Does it make a difference? <Only slightly.> Should I leave my heater on all the time, or just turn it on the day before I'm going to do my water change? <I only plug the heater in when I need it, granted here in South Florida that isn't very often, but... the day before is just fine provided the water comes to temperature by the time you need it.>
Also, I set up a 37g freshwater aquarium for my 5 green tiger barbs.  That's all the fish I'm currently planning on having.  Should I do anything similar for their water changes? <Not really... freshwater fish just aren't as discriminating about the particulars of their water.> I understand tiger barbs are somewhat hardy, but I want them to be as happy as possible.  Which brings me to another question... is 5 too few?  Would the fish be happier if I put a few more in, or do you think they'd rather just have the extra space? <I'm a fan of understocking, although you probably could fit one or two more in there without too many problems. More on these fish here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/BarbsDaniosRasborasArt.htm >
Thanks much!
- Chad
<Cheers, J -- >
 






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