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Cichlid questions- Mbuna Growing At Different Rates 4/29/08
Hey there crew,
A few months ago, I bought a 55 gallon tank, and in it live 5 Lake Malawi
cichlids (I haven't definitively identified all of them yet, but for sure one is
a bumblebee, one is a red zebra, one is a rusty cichlid, one looks *exactly*
like the bumblebee but instead of gold with brown stripes, s/he is ice blue with
black stripes, and finally one that's ice blue with black trim along his/her
fins), a Pleco that's growing at what seems an impossible pace, and a Synodontis
catfish (from what I can tell, it's of the Njasse/Malawi variety...its
tail fin is spotted, not striped like the multipunctatus).
They all live in relative harmony. I got the cichlids all at once, when they
were about 1.5 inches. The bumblebee will chase the red zebra and the rusty
cichlid from time to time, but never with much heart. I suspect it's because
there are more than enough caves to go around, though I'm no expert. The Pleco
sometimes shows a nipped tail fin, but on the whole seems alright.
Some (the two bumblebee-looking ones in particular) have easily doubled in size,
while the others are somewhere in the 2 inch range. I feed them a very varied
diet (algae flakes; thawed frozen plankton; Spirulina-enriched brine shrimp; red
bloodworms; something called "emerald entree" which is a mix of spinach,
plankton, and other green looking yummies; cichlid gold baby pellets; and,
whatever snails I manage to harvest from my guppy tank before I lose patience --
no worries about contaminants from the snails, they've lived their whole lives
in that guppy tank). They eat twice a day, and I do a 10% water change weekly.
I use a crushed coral substrate, cleaned river rocks plus various "ceramic" pots
to form all sorts of caves and hiding spots, and artificial plants to create
their biotope.
The tank temp. is around 78 degrees, and I use a Marineland Penguin filter
(designed for 90 gallon tanks, because I decided over-filtration never hurt
anyone).
Now that all of that is out of the way, I have two questions. The first is, how
do I tell what gender my lovely fish are? Some have egg spots on their tails
(developed since they came to live with me, for sure), but I've read that that's
not dispositive on the matter.
<Males usually have longer fins than the females. Without having both sexes to
compare this may be difficult. Egg spots are not always a reliable indicator.
One method of sexing cichlids is to vent them. The way this works is to take
them out of the tank and observe their vent area, just before the anal fin. You
will see two openings. In males the two openings are about the same size. In
females one opening will be much larger than the other. You may be able to find
some examples at Cichlid -Forum.com.>
Second, why is it that they're all growing at such different rates? I thought it
might be a gender issue, but the rusty cichlid definitely has egg spots, and
s/he is one of the smaller ones.
< Not all Mbuna get to be the same size. The bumblebee and zebra types are a
couple of the larger ones. I have seen the bumblebee up to 8 inches long. The
rest may get up to 4 inches over time.>
Any insight? Nothing pressing...they seem to all be doing quite well, and I do
try to rearrange their environment or add new caves every few weeks to keep them
guessing, so all in all we're all content. Just curious. Thanks! Micah
<The larger fish become more aggressive and get most of the food. As they
establish a territory they get to eat the algae that grows in their territory.
They get to eat when there is no other food around.-Chuck>
Aggressive mail red zebra
3/10/08
I bought a mail red zebra about 3 months ago. He is about 5in lng.I put him
in my 3.5ft by 1ft by 1.5ft tank with a 4in yellow parrot,2 fire mouths, a
Kribensis), and a 7in Plec. Now he is alone as he was very aggressive, the other
fish i divided between my other 2 tanks. His tank is very clean and has 2 big
caves and various plastic plants and is filtered by a Fluval 204.Any ideas what i
could put with him?
<Pseudotropheus zebra is an highly aggressive cichlid that can only be combined
with other equally aggressive Mbuna. The tank you have him in is too small: as
far as he's concerned, that's his territory, and he will eventually damage or
kill any other fish that are unable to fight back. Pseudotropheus zebra should
be maintained in a large (75 gallons+) aquarium, ideally overstocked with other
Pseudotropheus zebra. Any book on Lake Malawi Cichlids will help here, and you
will find many of them available. None of your existing fishes are acceptable
tankmates, and nor is the aquarium you have. Hope that clarifies things. Cheers,
Neale.>
African
cichlids locking lips 3/6/08
Hi,
<Ave!>
I have three cichlids I believe that at least one is a female and
possibly a Flowerhorn.
<To me looks like a juvenile Oscar (Astronotus ocellatus, on the left)
and some sort of Mbuna (Pseudotropheus sp., likely a hybrid, on the
right). Bit difficult to tell from that photo. If my determinations are
correct though, this combination is not going to work. For a start, an
adult Oscar could eat a Pseudotropheus.>
one of my other fish looked like he was kind of bloody in his mouth and
he turned white (he is normally blue). I put him in a hospital tank
because I figured he was stressed out about something and after three
days in the little tank he got better. I put him in the main tank today
and ever since he has been attached at the mouth to this Flowerhorn (see
attachment). It looks like the inside of his mouth is rubbing off on her
outside mouth. What is going on here? Am I going to have babies?
<No, more likely dead fish. These fish are fighting, and the damage to
the lips will become a route for secondary infections -- Finrot and
Fungus. Treat with a combination Finrot/Fungus medication such as
Maracyn or eSHa 2000. Because these two fish are quite clearly not the
same species, they can't "talk" the same body language, and quite
obviously their fights are very serious. They MUST be separated.>
I have had my tank for about 6 months. Its 20 gallons now and I plan to
get a larger one on the near future.
<Whoa... Mbuna need tanks well over the 50 gallon mark if they aren't to
go around killing one another. And they will. Oscars aren't normally
aggressive, but they're big, and your tank is about one-fifth the size
required for a single Oscar, let along one in a community setting!>
I change a quarter of the water weekly and currently have no NO3, NO2 or
NH3. I have the two fish in the picture along with a Pleco and blueberry
marmalade cat I think its called (orange and white with purple
splotches).
<Hmm... At the moment I suspect you have a jumble of fish that can't
live together for any length of time. Have you read any books before
purchasing these fish? I'm slightly concerned that you aquarium shop
might have "recommended" these fish and you didn't know better, because
this really is a disaster waiting to happen. The Marmalade Cichlid is
presumably Pseudotropheus zebra "Orange Blotch", an excellent but
aggressive species that will eventually fight with the blue
Pseudotropheus zebra you already have. Both need hard, alkaline water.
The Plec is likely Pterygoplichthys sp., a catfish from South America
that can, WILL get to 12-18"/30-45 cm in captivity, whether you'd like
it to or not. And the Oscar, as mentioned, is another big BIG fish that
gets to about the same size as the catfish, only it is round as well as
long!>
Thank You,
Danielle
<You're welcome, Neale.>
Re: African cichlids locking lips
3/6/08
I highly doubt I have an Oscar.
<I agree; the new photos are a bit better. Still not obviously anything
to me, but probably a Central American of some sort judging by the deep,
laterally compressed body. Is that an eyespot at the base of the tail?>
In fact the two pictured were bought from the same tank of assorted
African cichlids (supposed to reach 4 or 5 in) from the pet store.
<Ah, here's your first mistake. "Mixed African Cichlids" is how junk
fish are sold to unsuspecting aquarists. These are likely hybrids and
therefore impossible to identify. Worse, because they're hybrids you
have ABSOLUTELY no idea how big they'll get, how aggressive they'll be
or how much territory they will claim. Never, EVER buy cichlids from a
tank labeled "MIXED".>
The third one I bought from a local reputable fish store and I have
attached a picture.
<Hmm... if they were all that good, they'd not be selling "mixed"
cichlids without clearly given Latin names!>
The three have never been aggressive towards each other.
<And Custer had never lost a battle. Yet. The problem with cichlids is
most species are nice as pie when young, and only become hostile as they
mature. Hence you plan ahead.>
The one on the right of the previously sent picture I was told was an
acei.
<For the blue fish? Pseudotropheus acei is certainly possible. But let
me make this crystal clear: virtually all the cichlids sold as "Mixed
African Cichlids" are genetically very mixed indeed, and the Latin names
that get applied to them should be taken with a tablespoon of salt.
Seriously, this is one of the biggest problems in the hobby, and
fishkeeping writers have been going on about it for yours. They're
whistling in the wind frankly, because people mix these fish in their
tanks all the time, and then offload the hybrid fry any which way they
can. So while there's a small percentage chance you actually do have
Pseudotropheus acei, the fact is that there are so many hybrid
Pseudotropheus that are also blue with vertical bands it could honestly
be anything.>
No one really knew what the other was until I randomly found a picture
online of almost the exact fish. It was on some Flowerhorn breeder site.
I have attached a kind of blurry picture of him alone.
<Certainly *could* be a juvenile Flowerhorn.>
The lighting was very bad in the first picture I sent you since I took
it from the side of a darker tank.
<The reason I said "Oscar" was the round head, protruding jaws and
goggly eyes.>
The two fish weren't moving at all they just locking lips.
<In the fishkeeping trade we call this fighting.>
Now the two aren't near each other as usual and have retreated to their
normal parts of the tank.
<Fight over, for now.>
All of these fish still have to be separated?
<Oh gosh yes. And not a chance in hell of keeping them in a 20 gallon
tank. Even a 20 gallon tank *each* isn't an option for the Flowerhorn
and the Plec, and I'd personally not want to stick a couple of Mbuna in
a 20 gallon tank either. Not unless I wanted dead fish. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: African cichlids locking lips
3/6/08
I think the third fish is an ob peacock. I remember the man at the store
calling it a peacock now.
<Aulonocara sp., several possible species, and in fact quite possibly a
hybrid. In any case, gets to about 12-15 cm, moderately aggressive when
mature (males more than females of course) and needs a mix of open water
and hiding places. Primarily a zooplankton feeder. A nice fish.>
How large of a tank do I need?
<Difficult to say, but certainly not less than 55 US gallons given we
don't know exactly what some of these fish are, and the Plec will
certainly need a lot of space.>
100 gallons?
<Even better!>
Can I use tank dividers or will the fish somehow knock them down?
<In a big enough tank with hiding places for everyone, tank dividers
should not be necessary, and in any case yes, these cichlids could
easily dig under them or jump over them. I'm not a fan of dividers
anyway. Much better to collect species together than will coexist.>
These fish will be happy alone, correct?
<Or in a big enough tank. But your collection of fish isn't textbook
stuff, and that makes it very difficult to predict. Mbuna and Aulonocara
generally get along fine if they aren't overcrowded and the species
chosen are compatible. Central Americans are aggressive, but not quite
as aggressive as the worst of the Mbuna, so if you're unlucky, the
Central American could get hammered. The Plec will be fine providing it
has hiding places, but cichlids can still harm Plecs, e.g., by biting
out their eyes.>
I have treated the tank with an anti fungal/bacterial treatment.
<Very good. I'd recommend against Melafix/Pimafix -- they're not
terribly reliable.>
Thanks!
<Cheers, Neale.> |
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"Fixing" my Cichlid Tank
Malawi Cichlid Tank With Aggression Problems 10/26/07
I currently have two Zebras, three Yellow Labs , one Kenyi (small, and
submissive), 1 Blue Hap, and an Upside Down Catfish. in a 29 gal tank.
Realizing that the tank is too small, I'm considering moving them into a 55 gal.
< Good idea.>
Right now, the tank is very tense, and one zebra terrorizes all fish.
There were actually more fish in there, but the problem zebra has reduced the
numbers. I am considering moving everyone into a 55 gal. tank. I was also
considering adding 5 more zebras, another Kenyi, and eventually 4 Yellow Lab
fry, (now in a grow out tank),
but they won't be ready for quite some time.
The cichlid selection is not great at my LFS (only one in the area). So my
choices are limited. I can get the zebras, Kenyis, Yellow Labs. (Also
Auratus, Venustus, Convicts, and Jack Dempseys., which I'm assuming are not
suitable). I'd like help with what species and what numbers I should add. I
don't want to have a 55 gal problem tank!!! Also considered just using the
cichlids that I have, and adding Tiger Barbs or Rainbows??? Can you make a
suggestion, please? J Ken and Sharon J
< Moving up to a 55 gallon tank is a very good idea. The zebra and Kenyi can get
very big and are very aggressive. Considering what your local store is offering
I would skip the convicts and Jack Dempseys. The Malawi cichlids have teeth, are
heavily scaled and are too fast for the New World cichlids to defend themselves.
I would recommend six of all the rest of the Malawi species. This will give you
thirty fish in a 55 gallon tank. You need lots of rockwork and a couple inches
of fine sand. Keep the water temp at 75-77 F. I recommend keeping these fish
crowded to disperse the aggression from a single fish. This means a powerful
filter that will turn the water over at least 5 tank volumes in an hour, and
lots of water changes. As the fish get bigger you can remove some of the larger
more aggressive males. In the end you will have about 20-24 fish that should get
along fairly well. A very good book to consider would be "Enjoying Cichlids" by
Ad Konings. There are 100's species of cichlids in Lake Malawi and this book may
expose you to some of the other less aggressive species.-Chuck>
Yellow Lab or Humming Bird?
African Cichlid beh. 10/26/07
Hi Neale,
<Lisa,>
Just a little behavioral trait I thought I'd share about my humming bird of a
yellow lab Mbuna. "He" is really making me chuckle tonight. I am really
intrigued by him - the book "Enjoying Cichlids" is definitely on my Christmas
list.
<Looks a fun book.>
Tonight he was racing in and out of a small multi-opening tree trunk. He's dug a
huge hole within the base of the trunk and frequently comes out spewing sand.
He's built a sand pile about 2 1/2 inches tall outside the tree trunk. He is an
absolute riot. Tonight he is flitting about - "kissing" the glass walls, spewing
sand outside of his trunk and chasing nearby Mbuna throughout the length of the
four foot tank.
<Ah, he's doing some "aquascaping". It's what cichlids do. Mostly, it's to show
off to the females and intimidate other males. To the females, it is a wasteful
expenditure of energy. In Darwinian terms, that's a statement to the effect of
"I have such good genes, I have this surplus energy I can waste doing stupid
stuff". Since these fish are mouthbrooders, nest-building behaviour (which is
presumably what this is derived from, relative to their ancestral cichlids) is
pointless in itself. To other males, it's an honest advertisement of prowess, of
good genes. You can't fake a huge pile of sand, so rival males can take this at
face value and then decide whether or not to attempt to compete with the
resident male. When teaching this sort of behaviour to students, I liken it to a
man driving an expensive Italian sports car. No-one "needs" a sports car. By any
practical standard, a sports car is pointless. It carries fewer people in less
comfort than a regular car, it costs more to buy and it costs more to maintain.
HOWEVER, what a sports car *does* do is advertise your wealth. It own one and
put up with its expenses and limitations you must have a lot of wealth. You
can't fake a sports car for this: everyone can immediately recognise a decrepit,
broken down sports car. So potential mates will recognise your sports car as an
honest symbol of your wealth (and by extension, your ability to out-compete
rivals or provide resources for your potential offspring). So when you see a man
driving an expensive car, he is doing exactly and precisely the same thing as a
Mbuna cichlid building a pile of sand: ostentatiously showing off his ability to
waste resources as a proxy for genetic fitness!>
I imagine this behavior is a display of territoriality (?). He seems to go
through periods of time when he is quiet and hidden and other times when he
displays antics such as I described above.
<No, the fish will express these behaviours even in a "vacuum", i.e., without
seeing another member of its species. Indeed, it's advantageous to do so,
because in the wild, the Labidochromis doesn't know when a potential mate will
swim by, so he needs to be ready to impress her if she does.>
This is normal behavior isn't it?
<Yes.>
I'd love to hear your insight.
<Done! This is the reason people study cichlids. They show such a huge variety
of social behaviours, and seemingly aren't fussed about humans watching them do
those behaviours. Other animals are much more shy, or simply can't be handled in
labs easily. If you read the fish behaviour literature, a vast proportion of it
is based on cichlids, right back to work by people like Konrad Lorenz (if you
get the chance, read his popular book, "King Solomon's Ring").>
Hope you are well.
<Yes indeed, and likewise you.>
Lisa
<Cheers, Neale>
Mbuna milk mustache? –
10/18/07
Hi Neale,
Quick question for you. One of my Mbuna has a perfectly symmetrical white
triangle that has formed around his mouth and "chin." Unfortunately I don't have
a digital camera and not able to send along a photo.
The water quality is good (nitrites and ammonia - 0; nitrates below 20ppm; pH
8.0).
Do you suppose this may be a fighting wound? I've never observed the Mbuna
"mouth fighting."
No other fish exhibit any fungus-looking attributes...
Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you!
Lisa.
<Hmm... assuming that this isn't normal colouration (you never know with the
more obscure Mbuna) then it could be simply dead skin following a fight. In
which case, I'd personally use some mild antibacterial like Melafix just to be
on the safe side. If things got worse, then Finrot medication would need to be
used. Cichlids do indeed fight with their jaws, and what you describe is not
uncommon. Presumably the teeth damage the skin. Anyway, keep an eye out for
secondary infections, and if they occur, treat for Finrot. Good luck! Neale>
Re: Mbuna milk mustache?
10/19/07
Thanks Neale, shall I then move the injured fish to a separate tank to
medicate? (sorry if this is an obvious question)
Lisa
<I'd treat it in the tank. If the problem is minor (which seems to be the case)
you may as well avoid problems with stress and damage caused while capturing the
fish. Cheers, Neale.>
Flashing in Mbunas 10/14/07
Hi Neale,
<Lisa,>
I was just reading through the website. I noticed many Mbuna owners spoke of
their fish "flashing." In just about all accounts, the crew attributed
this to a high nitrate or ammonia problem.
<Or whitespot, or any number of other things that irritate the gills. Like
dropsy, flashing is a symptom rather than a specific disease or syndrome. Think
of it as a heads-up that not all is well i your aquarium.>
I've noticed some of the Mbuna flashing however the nitrates are steady at 10-20
ppm, ammonia and nitrite levels are 0. I assumed their flashing was due to
quirky Mbuna behavior.
<It can be. Flashing as a mating behaviour is where the cichlid zooms in front
of another, either as a threat or to display itself to a potential mate.
Flashing as a result of disease or irritation is where the fish zooms against a
rock or some sand, to scratch itself deliberately. In the wild, this behaviour
presumably dislodges external parasites, and the fish is doing this in response
to a similar stimulus, i.e., irritation.>
The only water chemistry challenge I have is increasing the carbonate hardness
(I'm adding cichlid salts to partial water changes as you recommended). I
religiously change 25% of the water every other week and take a full set of
readings every weekend (nitrite, nitrate, ammonia, pH,
kH).
<Very good. I'd personally do more water changes, at least 25% per week, but if
your water quality is good, it's no big deal. But as a reminder to others
reading this: the great advantage of buying fish that *prefer* your local water
chemistry is you can do big, regular water changes without the expense of
modifying the new water each time beyond adding dechlorinator.>
Should I be concerned about the flashing Neale - it is not too frequent however
I do notice the fish doing it from time to time.
<Look to see what they're doing. If they're just darting about, then it's not a
problem and likely behavioural. If they're scratching against objects (something
fish otherwise avoid, for fear of damaging their scales and mucous coat) then
you may have a problem.>
Also regarding water chemistry - in both my livebearers and goldfish tanks (i.e.
guppies, Plecos, Corys, variegated platys, tetras) despite
incorporating crushed coral into the canister filters, the kH will not increase
beyond 4 or 5 however the pH has gone up to 7.8-8.0.
<I'd leave things be for now. While on the low side for guppies and goldfish,
it's fine for tetras and cats. The main thing is that the crushed coral will
inhibit any pH crashes. The pH will stay alkaline and probably very steadily
around the 7.8-8.0 mark regardless of what happens.>
Is there a buffer I can use that will slightly increase the hardness of the
water without making the pH exceedingly alkaline?
<Don't worry about it for now. Over the long term, see how your fish do. What
I'd expect to see is that all the fish are happy, and the pH doesn't change much
at all, implying the water chemistry is nice and stable. At the end of the day
that's the important thing. At some point, it's a case of diminishing returns.>
Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you so much. Lisa.
<Cheers, Neale>
Yellow Lab or
Humming Bird? Mbuna beh. 8/29/07
Hi Neale, what do you make of this (not urgent)?
<Hello Lisa.>
My fiancé and I have been observing "Bruiser" our Yellow Lab
Mbuna this evening. Dennis is tasked with feeding the Mbuna
Spirulina flakes when he arrives home from work. He assures me
he did not "spike" the flakes. !!
<OK.>
The Yellow Lab is most frequently shy and "owns" an ornament in
the tank that resembles a tree trunk. I realize he has staked
this out as his territory. He is very coy and doesn't leave his
nest often except to eat a couple times a day (I feed 3x per
day) and shows himself by way of sticking his "face" out from
one of the holes (this is his Linda Blair imitation as it
appears as if he is floating horizontally).
<Fairly normal Mbuna behaviour. Mbuna tend to stay close to
rocks in the wild, feeding on them when it's safe, and diving
into their holes when it's not. For whatever reason, your Yellow
Lab doesn't feel safe.>
Tonight he is racing back and forth across the back width of the
48" tank.
Every now and then he flutters up to the front like a humming
bird. This is very unusual behavior for this guy. He is not
concerned with the other fish in terms of aggression. I found
this info while conducting research on springerlink.com - a
journal article referencing ecology and breeding behavior of
cichlid fish - "...they return at dusk. The few males that
remain on the arena switch their behavior from courting to
foraging on zooplankton. Comparisons of this fish arena are made
with bird leks and it is concluded that the mating system of
this fish can be defined as a lek in the avian sense."
<Indeed. This is one reason cichlids are so widely studied in
labs: they perform bird-like behaviours while using up far less
space.>
I recently moved 11 Mbuna from a very crowded 30 gallon tank to
the 55.
Could the extra room, filtration and aeration suddenly escalated
him through "fish adolescence?" :) All the cichlids in my tank
are "one of a kind" except for a couple of red zebras. And since
I'm quite a novice at "venting," I have no idea which out of the
crowd is male or female. If he is indeed looking to mate and he
has none, what happens next? What happens when fish are ready to
spawn/breed and there's no option?
<Nothing much happens. Mbuna have a set hierarchy in terms of
behaviour and aggression. Yellow Labs are below Zebras, and if
the Labs get pushy, the Zebras will put them in their place. I
suspect this may be part of the reason why your Lab has been a
bit reticent; they don't mix terribly well with Zebras. Provided
you have enough space in the tank, the fish will all simply do
their thing.>
I am fascinated by this fishkeeping hobby and simply cannot get
enough.
<Hee! Keep reading and learning!>
p.s. the nitrate level in the community tank has come down to
10ppm! I will follow your instructions and thank you!
<Good-o. Well, hope this helps, Neale>
Care of suspected zebra
cichlid, Blue Cichlid Problems 8/28/07
Hey there.. this is going to be a long one :)
We used to have a lot of fish when I was growing up, guppies, mollies, gouramis
and a lone goldfish, I think, but we gave them away eventually, along with our
tank. I recently decided to get the aquarium going again and now have a small
tank installed with smooth glass pebbles at the bottom and a couple of shells at
each end serving as hiding spots. There is an aquarium shop close by, and since
they didn't stock guppies, I asked about a tiny blue fish I spotted in one of
the tanks along with Angels. The shop guy told me it was a 'Blue Mafe' (sic) and
spelled the name out for me. He said that the only problem with the fish was
that it would attack any other species of fish in the tank and should only be
kept with its own kind. I went home and looked up 'Mafe' on Google and
Wikipedia, but after a few days of searching I am now convinced that he actually
meant "Blue Morph". I am fairly certain now that it's a cichlid, given its body
shape and aggressiveness. The fish is just less than an inch long and a pale
blue in colour, with dark vertical stripes that sometimes disappear entirely.
(for reference, I found this picture that looks very much like it, except that
the fins aren't yellowish like they appear here, they're white with iridescent
blue
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/mb_pictures/Pseudotropheus_zebra.jpg )
When I went back to the shop they gave me the one I pointed out as well as
another just like it that was in the molly tank, and I was assured that the size
of tank that I had should be sufficient for them, however on the day I brought
the pair home, one eventually died in a few hours, I am guessing from the
stress, since it was constantly bullied by the other one and not allowed into
the lower levels of the tank. I found it lying at the bottom of the tank
finally, so I took it out and changed the water.
The other one seems to feel secure under its shells, where it darts the moment
there is any sudden movement in the room.
It was a bit disheartening to have one of the fish die, so I read up some more
about cichlids and learn that they ought to be kept in groups as opposed to very
small numbers in order to tone down the aggression. After my experience with
these fish I also believe that I need a much larger tank even for these tiny
fish, though I think they're supposed to grow to a few inches in length. However
I doubt I will be able to get a bigger tank for a few weeks since an impending
house-shift has been suddenly preponed. I would like your advice on whether I
ought to return this fish to the aquarium and get new ones when we shift, or if
I can maintain Morph in the temporary tank for a few weeks more, and what I can
do to make it more comfortable where it is in the meanwhile. The tank I have
right now will probably hold only half a gallon of water. I know this looks
ridiculously tiny compared to the advised tank-sizes I've seen on the net, but
so far there doesn't seem to be an oxygen deficiency problem (have had it a few
days) since the tank is fairly shallow, as well as that I'm recycling about 1/3
of the water every couple of days. Is this too often? How do I make out if it's
getting stressed? Also, will he/she get too lonely if kept alone for a while?
(like I said, a few weeks before we're settled in)
The tank bottom has a lot of different sized smooth glass pebbles and the two
shells I mentioned, which the fish seems particularly to like. Should I put a
few more large pebbles to provide cover, since Morph seems to be a bit timid all
of a sudden, though if I sit motionless for about five minutes he/she comes out
and gets very agitated, going up, down and side to side very rapidly along the
tank wall and I get the impression it's probably trying to chase me off :P
Also, as far as I can make out, it hasn't eaten any of the food pellets I put
in. I finally removed them from the surface since I didn't want them
decomposing. I tried powdering one of the pellets and sprinkling some (when
Morph wasn't running for cover) but spat it out after sampling a bit. What does
it eat??
I don't really want to keep the morph if I can't take care of it for the next
few weeks, but if it is possible to keep it reasonably comfortable for a short
while, given the current tank, I would like to do so, and would appreciate your
advice.
I'd also like to know.. what do the colour changes mean? Does the appearance of
the stripes mean it's relaxed or stressed? And.. how do I tell if it's a he or a
she? I don't see any egg spots but would they appear as the fish grows up? Thank
you so much for reading through this.
-Archana
< It sounds like you have an Mbuna species from Lake Malawi. There are over a
thousand species with geographic variants to add to the confusion. These fish
are fast aggressive cichlids that feed on algae off the rocks. They like hard
alkaline water. These fish are very territorial. In the wild the bigger the
territory the more algae is available for them to feed on. Fish communicate by
changing their color patterns and by displaying their fins. Bright bold colors
with erect fins usually mean aggressive behaviour. A dull fish with clamped fins
is trying to hide and not be seen. I would advise that you turn the fish back in
and wait until you are set up for what ever fish you really want to get. If you
do decide on cichlids then I would recommend a book by Ad Konings called
"Enjoying Cichlid". It is a great book an covers most of the types you will find
in stores.-Chuck>
African Cichlid Aggression 4/2/07
Hello! I’ve searched the web and your site for a possible explanation to
this problem and can’t seem to find an answer – Maybe you guys can help. My
African Cichlid shakes (shivers) and then charges and chases the other Cichlids
in the tank. He’s eating (if not stealing all the food – I have to try to
individually feed the other fish when he’s on the other side of the tank), and I
don’t think it’s a mating dance as my other fish are “scared” of him. They are
hiding and trying to stay away from him. I’ve tried changing the water, changing
the décor in the tank in case it’s a territorial thing and our fish guy told us
to try to “over-populate” the tank to keep aggression down, but that doesn’t
seem to have worked either… The tank isn’t new and we’ve had him for a few weeks
now … Any ideas? Thanks! Jade
<Some species of Lake Malawi cichlids are very aggressive and will not change
their habits no mater what you do. You need to realize that in the wild being
aggressive is a very good thing. The more aggressive you are means the bigger
territory you get to keep. A bigger territory means more food and a better
chance to attract a female and mate. This is not a very good trait for an
aquarium fish. Some fish take over an entire aquarium. Overcrowding the tank and
rearranging the territories does work with some species. Sometimes you get a
species or an individual that is hell bent on spawning and can be nothing but
trouble. I would try to lower the water temp to 75 F and bring him out of his
spawning mode. This may help a little, but depending on the species you may have
to replace him.-Chuck>
Red Peacock Cichlid Hides In Cave - 03/20/07
I have a beautiful Rubescens Peacock that I cannot figure out whether he may
be ill or just acting differently than the other fish in my aquarium. He is
around 4 inches, he eats well, and has no visible signs of disease, But He
spends 85% of his time hiding in the lowest cave in my rock pile. He only seems
to come out when it is time to eat. He has not attempted to breed with his harem
of females that are in the tank with him. At first I thought it may be bloat,
but his feces is normal and he is still eating. He has not lost any of his
spunk when he does come out. I was worried that maybe he was being bullied but
he is by far the largest in the tank, other than the females I purchased with
him in a group there is no one else near his size, most of the rest are not even
showing color. All of my water parameters are perfect, the nitrates usually run
around 25ppm, but with them being so close I tend not to worry about it because
that reading is normally the day before my regular water change. Is it possible
this is just his nature to be more shy and secluded? Any help would be
appreciated. Thank You.
< Peacock cichlids from Lake Malawi are normally found in caves in the wild.
They cannot compete with other more aggressive cichlids so stay in caves or come
out at night.-Chuck>
Blue peacock ? – 03/18/07
Hi, I have a blue peacock cichlid, (so am told) he has a yellow stripe on
the top, he is turning black (but then on another day doesn't look so
black) I have been searching for information on this and have not been able to
find anything, I was told that they can do that when they get
mad is that true and if it is could this be a health issue?
Thanks, Meg
<Possibly... Search the Net, Library under the term "Aulonocara"... much
written, available. Bob Fenner>
African Cichlid Is lethargic 2/28/07
Hi, we have a new African cichlid we bought 3 days ago. I'm not sure his
genus yet, but he's metallic blue with longer fins and a long white stripe on
his dorsal fin. He is about 4-5 inches. We have a 100gal set up with many rocks
and about 7 other 4inch Af. Cichlids and 1 six inch pleco who doesn't do much.
Anyway, yesterday we noticed 1 tiny baby fry peeking out from under a rock and a
finally realized a mama fish was being protective of the area. The new fish
hasn't seemed to settle in. We have 5 males and 1 or 2 females. H know today is
very lethargic, floating sideways at top on sitting on bottom. His metallic blue
is now simply dark blue. His flee reflex is very slow. He seems to be looking
for somewhere to hang out on the bottom too, but the protective mama keeps
nudging him away. So after research I'm thinking he has flagellae parasites, or
something else. It doesn't seem to be swim bladder because no one else has it,
and his abdomen is not distended and he is more lethargic than anything. My
question is, do we treat with methylene blue or any other antibiotic , will the
new baby fish survive the treatment?
< Try Metronidazole and treat as per the directions on the package, the baby
fish will be fine.-Chuck>>
Secondly, were afraid to clean the bottom gravel, due to the new fish fry. Also
we just cleaned it a week 1/2 ago, with a 40% water change. The nitrates are a
tad high :10-20ppm.. the nitrite is: 0, the high range pH test value is : 8.0-
8.1 Arrgghhh, we really like this fish, but he is our second of his same kind
that were having problems with, ( the last one abandoned ship oddly) Can u help?
thanks so much. at and jack
Growth Rate For A Nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus 1/28/07
Hey Chuck, I wanted to ask you a question. I just purchased a Nimbochromis
fuscotaeniatus and was wondering how fast this fish grows.
I couldn't find anything on the growth rate anywhere on the internet including
this site. I have a 75gal tank and I want to make him grow as quick as I
can. So, is this a slow growing cichlid like some of the mbuna and other haps,
or is does it grow faster? Thanks again
Jason
< Mbuna are usually found over rocks eating algae. Algae has very little protein
in it so they grow rather slowly. Your fish is a fish eater. With a high protein
diet, clean water and a water temp of around 80 F, you could have him full
size(8-12") in about a year. Females are usually smaller than males. Ammonia ,
nitrites and nitrates restrict fish growth. The lower the waste levels in the
water faster your fish will grow. Sounds like lots of water changes.-Chuck>
Malawi Cichlid beh., sys. Questions 1/23/07
Thanks again Chuck. Do you think it would help prevent color loss in male
African cichlids if I increased the amount of fish and/or
overstocked my tank?
<Almost all the cichlids on Lake Malawi are mouthbrooders. This usually means
that the males will be brightly colored and need to establish a territory to
breed. Dominant males look their best guarding their territories. As some fish
grow and get stronger, others will get older and weaker and lose their
territories. If you jam the tank with fish the males will always have some
color, but they will never look as good as when they are breeding.> I chose not
to go the male/female route and as you told me before it all depends on water
quality, dominance, food type/variety etc. I notice that the pics and videos I
look at over the internet of Malawi tanks (super-male) that are more heavily
stocked, don't have loss of coloring. Will their colors come back/improve if
there are more fish in the tank to take the focus off of just a few fish?
<The pictures on the internet are usually of dominant or breeding males
defending a territory. Their may be other fish in the tank but he is the most
dominant one in the tank.>
One more thing, what do the colors consist of with this CaribSea "Rift Lake
Authentic" substrate?
< Kind of a medium grey-brown color.>
Thanks again for your help Chuck, I really don't know what I would've done
without your knowledge/input. Sometimes books just aren't as good as the
feedback from someone with personal experience. Jason
< If you are really into Malawi Cichlids then you may want to check out the
American Cichlid Association at cichlid.org. Their national convention will be
in Sacramento Cal in mid July. Check it out and thank you for your kind
words.-Chuck>
Cichlids Not Coloring Up 12/31/06
Hey Chuck, you always answer my questions and I greatly appreciate it! To
be honest man, I'm getting real frustrated with cichlids. I refuse to spend
money on dull females and having all males really doesn't do any good. I made
sure I purchased males of all different species so I wouldn't have a problem
with color loss. Well, that didn't work AT ALL! Seems as though all of my big
cichlids (mostly peacocks) keep their color. The smaller haps and Mbuna on the
other hand, all lost theirs. I'm not sure if it's a size thing or what but all
my smaller fish lost their color. What do you recommend I do regarding this
color problem? I can't keep dishing out money for beautifully colored fish to
soon find out that their going to lose it in my tank. I think I have asked you
this before but never received a clear enough response for me to
understand. Please tell me the little hints and/or any tips you possibly can
regarding avoidance of colors in an "all male" African tank? Thanks again
Chuck
Have a safe and Happy New Year!!!
< Thanks for your kind words. Only dominate fish color up. Peacocks typically
are not very aggressive towards each other so the color thing is not as big a
deal as with the Mbuna or the Haps. Many Mbuna and Haps do not color up until
they are full grown. Small BB zebra types usually don't get much color at all
until they get close to three inches. Some Haps get up to 6 inches. These
usually don't color up until they get close to that size. Keep the basics in
mind. Hard alkaline clean water around 77 F is best. I use a combination of
Spectrum Pellets from New Life, and some home made fish food from a pea/shrimp
recipe in "Enjoying Cichlids" by Ad Konings. Recently I have been trying out
some Can-O-Shrimp from ZooMed and have had really good luck with it. Genetics
plays a key role. Many Fish bred in captivity are not selected for color. I buy
my fish from breeders, only after I have seen the adults. Where you buy your
fish is as important as how they are kept. Not all fish are equal. I can be more
specific once I know the species you have.-Chuck>
Af. Cichlid Beh., Sel. 12/28/06
Hello Bob, me again..........Jason. Hope the holidays were good for you!
<Thus far...>
I have a question regarding the sex of a blue dolphin African cichlid. I've
read through the forums and all over the internet and the literature says it's
very hard to distinguish between male and female.
<Mmm, Cyrtocara moorii is best sexed... by allowing a mix of individuals to
"sort themselves out" in a large setting>
I have a blue dolphin that is rather aggressive against my other peacocks
and Mbuna, he/she chases constantly.
<Not atypical beh.>
The anal fins are more rounded (but not incredibly short) and the color is a
nice sky blue.
<Could/can describe either sex when small, perhaps in poor condition...>
He/she is only under 3.5" therefore there is no apparent hump on the
head. Between the aggression and the light, yet vivid sky blue color, do you
think this is a male?
<Possibly... but not able to tell decidedly here>
I am trying to create an "all male" African tank to avoid breeding and dull
coloring.
<Mmm... where's that Chuck Rambo?! This can be an unrealistic goal... that is,
your fishes will not show their "best" color, behavior w/o the presence of
females... and may still be overly agonistic>
I think I might run into some trouble if this is the ONLY female in the tank.
Thanks again
Happy New Year!!!
<Again... I would keep a close eye on all your stock... for signs of too-overt
aggression here... and remove the most damaging individual/s as these problems
evidence themselves. Bob Fenner>
Coloring up African Cichlids in Captivity 11/26/07
Hi, what can I do to enable the color to come back on my
African cichlids?
<Mmm... a few direct things... species compatibility, numbers of genders
selected, providing suitable water quality, frequent partial water changes, good
nutrition>
I purposely only purchased one cichlid in each genus so I wouldn't run into
this problem.
<Mmm, this won't do it>
But it seems a lot of my cichlids are losing color in my 80gal tank. I
thought only cichlids in the same genus lose their color? Any pointers?
Thanks,
Josie
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/afrcichlids.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Re: What can I do to enable the color to come back on my
African cichlids? 11/27/06
Ok, thanks Bob but I am doing everything you recommended. The only thing
left is that I have smaller cichlids mixed with a few large cichlids, could
that be the problem?
<Mmm, no... not generally>
Also, am I better off with dark colored substrate?
<Yes, by and large>
I see in the forums that crushed coral is recommended for cichlids and
obviously I purchased the Florida (white). Which is better to show off the
true colors of the fish, dark or light?
<Something in-between... "natural gravel", that will get you both a boost in
alkaline reserve, and less-bleaching light effect>
Some FAQ's say white some say dark.
Thanks
<A "toss up" twixt chemical/physical improvement in water quality (and its
beneficial effects) and less reflectivity, washing out effect on the
appearance... Bob Fenner>
Cichlids Slowing Down At Higher temps. 11/24/06
Hey thanks Chuck. Also, I tried the salt and high temp recommended by you
in the forums. Do the Africans get less active when the temp is high and the
full dose of rock salt (2 tblspn per five gallons) is put into the tank?
They were swimming all over, now they're sorta just staying put, not much
movement. Thanks
< At high temps the water is not able to carry as much oxygen. Oxygen levels may
be low so increase the aeration. Check the ammonia levels if the water smells
are gets cloudy. The bacteria may be dying that do the biological filtration due
to lack of oxygen too.
Dominant Cichlid Colorations 11/21/06
Hi Chuck. I was reading the forums on your website and read that
the Labidochromis Sp. Mbama was a good choice to go with other peacocks
and haps. I just purchased him today and since I put him in, he is a
totally different color than he was in the store. He was dark black with
light blue stripes. Now he is completely light blue with no black at all. I
have him under a 50/50 actinic/daylight bulb. Are these his true colors now,
or will he get the dark black bars and vivid colors back? I also purchased a
Haplochromis zebra and I can barely see his black striping. Is this a stress
issue or is this there permanent colors in the new tank with my other fish?
Best regards
< Many cichlids are sexually dimorphic. This means the females look different
then the males. In an aquarium one male will become dominant and pick on any
other male that shows any other dominant colors. This is usually the best
colored one and the one that is purchased at the store. If you go back to the
store and look in the same tank you will now see another male has colored up and
taken the place of the fish you just bought. Your fish is now in a new situation
and has not yet established his place in the pecking order so takes on a
submissive coloration. When your fish become dominant or get into a fight their
dominant colors will return if they are healthy. This is a real problem for
aquarists that buy Featherfins from Lake Tanganyika. Sometimes they only color
up when breeding. The rest of the time they are a silvery fish with no
color.-Chuck>
Malawian Cichlid Tank Fish Scratching 10/10/06
Hello. I have a Malawian African cichlid tank and I noticed that they are
all scratching against the glass/rocks and breathing kind of fast. They have
no visible spots or white coating. Could this just be gill parasites and not
Ich or Velvet? Preferably I would like to use a medication that will only
stain the sealant in the corners and not every bit of my decor. Unfortunately
I do not have the option to QT and move these fish. I need to do this in the
tank. What would you recommend? I followed the forums and I increased the
temperature to around 85 degrees and I did a water change. Which medication
should I purchase?
Thanks a lot, Jeff
<Check the nitrates and get them under 20 ppm. Change 50% of the water vacuum
the gravel and clean the filter. Add a tablespoon of rock salt per 10 gallons of
water. The best cure for these protozoans are a combination of Malachite Green
and Formalin. Clout works well on this too. You could try Formalin alone while
increasing the water temp to 82 F and keeping up on the salt while doing your
water changes.-Chuck> ELECTRIC YELLOW CICHLID BEHAVIOR 10/1/06
I have a male electric yellow cichlid who is about 2 years old. He lives
all by himself in a 20-gallon tank -- he likes this life-style for he will kill
whatever fish I put in there for company. For the past 5 days, he has been
"hiding" out in his house.
<Do this at times>
He does come out to feed. He has also been speeding all around the tank,
smashing into things (doesn't appear to be hurting himself), breathing heavily,
and then retreats back into his house. He developed black horizontal stripes on
his body and his face looked "unshaven".
<Mmmm>
I tested his water for ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, Ph, etc. and his levels
are fine. I just did a partial water change and he appears to be "settling"
down, his color appears to be changing back to normal including his "beard"
that's disappearing, his breathing is normal. This fish (his name is Coy) is
normally a very playful fish and very social -- if I lightly tap on the glass,
he will come to the glass and start talking to me. When he wants to play, he
hides behind this bush and waits until I tap on the glass and then he comes
speeding over and we'll repeat this play for hours until I put him to bed by
shutting off his light. But this week, Coy just was not himself.
Can you, please, tell me what could possibly be wrong, if anything, with Coy?
Thank U.
<Maybe "just a phase"... could be nutritionally linked... environmental... You
give no data re either... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/afcichdisfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Debbie Harmon
New Zebra Cichlids Fading 9/27/06
Hello crew! I'm very confused. I have a 20 gallon tank that is fairly new
(although fully cycled). It contains one very small pleco and two blue zebra
cichlids that I put in little over a week ago. They are also very small. I got
them from Petsmart, which didn't thrill me, but it appeared to be the only
option in my area. For the first week they all did great. The pleco still
seems fine, but the two zebras took a nose dive about three days ago. Here's
what I've noticed in them:
Zebra 1: Abruptly stopped eating and is producing long, stringy white
feces. It became lethargic, lost color, has lost a pectoral fin and generally
looks horrible - dull, ragged looking fins. It was hiding a lot and going
through periodic bouts of erratic swimming, mostly against the tank wall. This
morning it was still alive but doing nothing more than lying on the bottom on
its side.
Zebra 2: Also stopped eating, lost some color but looks way better than the
first one, is more active than the first one but also seems lethargic and prone
to hiding. This one has developed a white, cottony-looking funk around its
mouth.
This all occurred over about three days. I've done quite a bit of reading on
your site and based on the variety of symptoms (and my inexperience) I can't
determine if they are suffering from the same problem, different/multiple
problems or if I should treat, not treat, change water or what.
Some stats and other info - I've been obsessively testing the water and pH is
consistent at 8.4, ammonia and nitrite have stayed at 0 and nitrates have stayed
at 20 ppm. I noticed yesterday that the brand new heater had stopped
working. The light was on, but it wasn't heating.
The tank temperature dropped to about 74, and I was able to slowly raise it to
78 with a small water change and a heating pad on low taped to the outside of
the glass! I'll be getting a new heater today. I don't know how to proceed
here - I keep reading about medications being toxic.
Should I do more water changes even though my ammonia/nitrite/nitrate levels are
good? I'm also worried that all the "doing" will just stress them more and make
things worse. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Tara
< You Zebra cichlids are from Lake Malawi in Africa. They prefer hard alkaline
water in the mid to upper 70's. They eat algae in nature. Many commercial
tropical fish foods are too rich and high in protein for many Malawi cichlids.
The food rots in their gut and causes bloat and then other diseases follow soon
after. Do a 50% water change , vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Treat with
Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace. Check for ammonia spikes because these
medications will probably affect the good bacteria that breaks down the fish
waste.-Chuck>
Parasites, or just getting ready to breed? Labidochromis dis., beh.
7/28/06
Hello,
<Hi there>
Before I launch my question at you, I just wanted to say thanks for all the help
that you guys provide; your site has been invaluable to
me as a beginning fishkeeper!
<Welcome>
For the past few days, my male yellow lab has been showing off for my two
females (vibrating, chasing, typical boorish male behavior),
<Heee! Typical for lacustrine African Cichlids in general>
and this evening, I noticed that one female's breeding tube is visible.
At first, I thought that they were going to spawn soon, but a little while
later, I noticed a little white string coming from her vent.
Now I know that white feces are a sign of parasites,
<Mmm, not always, necessarily>
and I have some Jungle Parasite Clear on hand, so should I treat the tank now,
or wait and see?
<For me, the latter>
The fish is eating and behaving normally, and I am reluctant to medicate if it's
not necessary...
<You are wise here>
and to make matters worse, I won't be at home very much for the next week or so
and don't want any huge problems to pop up while I am not around to take care of
them! I would really appreciate any input you could provide.
Kate
<I'd hold off for now... Bob Fenner>
Re: Parasites, or just getting ready to breed? Labidochromis dis., beh.
7/29/06
Thanks for the quick reply, Bob. Just an update: the female is pooing
normally now, so I think everything will be ok.
<Yay! Me too... not pooing, but agreeing all will likely be okay>
I came home from work today, just in time to see the female lay an egg...
which the male promptly ate. Not quite the response I had hoped for, but it's
only their first time spawning... nobody's perfect!
Kate
<"Practice makes perfect"... Bob Fenner>
Please Advise: African Cichlid dis., beh....
7/22/06
Greetings from Wisconsin!
<Howdy from HI>
I would like to thank everyone at Wet Web for having such a great site dedicated
to helping this hobby and for educating all of us!
I have researched your web site and others and still feel that I have not found
the answer to my situation though.
I have a 90 gallon freshwater set up with 1 red empress, 1 hap ali, 1 Lemon
Jake, a Mbuna Peacock, 1 blue peacock, and a mbamba. The tank is planted with 5
Amazon swords and plastic plants with many caves and formations and 200 watts of
compact fluorescence that run for 10 hours per day. I keep the temp at 78F and
run a 35 watt UV Sterilizer at all times.
I am running a Fluval FX5 with a Marineland TidePool wet/dry. My ammonia is
0mg/l, nitrite is < 0.3mg|\l,
<Should be zip>
ph 8.5, and a general hardness of 8.5.
Yesterday my Mbamba started gasping for air and was not eating. He is swimming
around the tank but hangs out in the corner mostly.
<Could be the nitrite... whatever its cause is>
He comes to the surface with interest in eating but does not feed. I am worried
that he may have an internal parasite of some sort. No other fish have these
symptoms and his color looks fine. I feed them a diet of spectrum pellets but
the other night I put some left over krill that I was feeding my fire eel
<Not compatible with these cichlids. Hopefully not in the same tank>
and he was one of the fish that ate some. Any suggestion on the cause and
treatment.
Thank you in advance!
Michael J. Bukosky
<Mmm, suggest moving the one apparently mal-affected fish to separate
quarters... for close observation, time to rest up... May be just being
psychologically "harassed" by the other African Cichlids. You need to fix your
biological filtration pronto, and in the meanwhile be very careful re feeding...
Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/afcichdisfaq2.htm
and the linked files above, particularly on Disease and Behavior. Bob Fenner>
Re: Please Advise: African Cichlid dis., beh.... - 08/15/06
Thank you for the response Mr. Fenner.
This e-mail was sent a while ago and the Red Empress is still not eating.
I have re-read your response and believed all my water parameters were
acceptable.
In the prior e-mail I stated that my nitrite is < 0.3mg|\l and you stated it
should be zip.
My mistake, it is zip!
<Mmm, sorry re... as in zero, nada, not measurable?>
A dumb typo on my behalf. I meant nitrate.
<Oh... a few ppm of NO3 is not problematical>
With this in mind does your helpful advice change?
<Well... I would still be doing water changes...>
The Red Empress has not been eating for 3 weeks or so. He appears healthy and
swims around and to the side of the tank when I come near.
<Appears healthy? It must be eating something when you're not looking...>
He goes to the food and takes it in and then spits it out. I feed him Spectrum
pellets and Aquatrol Spirulina flakes.
<Good products>
I know he could be eating algae in the tank like they do in the wild but I have
never noticed this behavior with him.
He is the dominant fish in the tank so I believe he is not being beat up.
I am unsure what to do at this point. Any more advice would be appreciated.
<I would try adding/soaking the pelleted food (Spectrum) in a vitamin/appetite
enhancing product ahead of offering...>
By the way................. The fire eel mentioned in the last e-mail is in his
own 150 gallon Rubbermaid tub and has been there for 2 years. My
basement is filled with these tubs and many wonderful aquatic friends!
<Man! Wish we had a basement (they're scarce as hen's teeth in S. Cal. due to
earthquakes. Bob Fenner>
African Cichlids Losing Color 6/20/06
Hello, I was searching the internet on information on African Cichlids and I
came across your page which seems to have a lot of information! I recently bought
some and they are set up in my tank. I have two bright all yellow cichlids and
a black and light blue stripped one. I then bought a bright orange one.
(forgive me I do not know their proper names.) They are all the same size. The
orange one has been in the tank for about 3 days now and seems to
be doing fine with the other cichlids. One problem I can't figure out though.
The orange one has seemed to loose alot of its color?! I cant seem to
understand why and was wondering if you had any reasonable explanation.
<Much of the color in fish reflects the diet that they are being fed. Certain
colors like red can be brought up and intensified using foods high in beta
carotene. Daphnia, brine shrimp, krill, and some pellet foods like Spectrum do a
great job on bring out the red coloration.>
Also the blue one, which I assume is the male has dug a little cave under the
driftwood. Is this to impress the females?
< Two reasons. Males establish territories for gathering food and to attract a
mate.>
I do not know how to tell the females and males apart. But I assume that the one
doing the digging is the male. Is that correct?
< You probably have different species, although they will interbreed.>
I am new to the African Cichlid Aquarium. Any feedback will be greatly
appreciated!!!!Please email me back with any information you have.
Thank you, Nicole
< A great book to check out would be "Enjoying Cichlids" by Ad Konings. Lots of
great photos with important info on keeping almost any kind of cichlid.-Chuck>
Cichlid Question/Poor Grammar 6/8/06
For the past 2 days my orange African cichlid has been making a nest almost
my cichlid is a he and I'm not sure if the males make the nest or not. he
stopped but I haven't fed him since this morning so he is probably tired. the
nest is pretty long ( about 6 inches in a ten gallon). if I got him a female and
a divider would the female lay eggs, or because she's new she wouldn't feel safe
or something? he has new tank mates, they are not the type of cichlid he would
live with naturally because the water is supposed to have a different PH. is he
nervous or something? does he want to breed? sometimes other fish swim in the
nest and near it, would he only be aggressive if there were eggs in there?
thanks
<With the lack of proper punctuation and grammar your question(s) are very
difficult to understand. So I can you a simple overview about cichlids from Lake
Malawi. These cichlids are territorial and do so by defending an area. Many
times the area is defined by a pit in the substrate. Males are the usual one but
females may dig pits to in the absence of males in the tank. A female that is
ready to breed will be allowed in a male's territory in an attempt to breed with
her. If she is not ready or unwilling then she is chased away or killed by the
male. All other fish are kept out of the territory. You are going to have to
learn to write and express yourself if you ever need specific answers to
specific questions. You don't have to be perfect but you do need to be close to
be properly understood.-Chuck>
Cichlid Question/Better But Not Perfect Grammar 6/9/06
OK I've fixed the last message.
< Thank you very much.>
For the past two days my orange African cichlid has been making, something like
a nest. My cichlid is a male and I'm not sure if the males make the nest or the
females do.
< Most of the time it is the male. Females may dig a nest if there is no male
present.>
He stops every once in a while but he probably gets tired. The nest is pretty
big ( about 6 inches long in a ten gallon). If I got him a female and a divider
would the female lay eggs or, because she is new, she wouldn't feel safe and not
lay eggs?
<In a 10 gallon tank the male's territory would take up the entire tank and she
would have no place to hide. Most likely she would be beat up and killed in no
time at all. Many cichlid keepers do use a divider method in which the female is
on one side and the male is on the other. It turns out that most of the eggs get
fertilized without any threat to the female. The divider needs to designed so
that they can see each other and the water current should go from the males side
to the females side. Many times these dividers are home made out of light
fixture panels.>
to go if he has new tank mates, these cichlids are supposed to have a different
PH then him (oops). Is he nervous or something because maybe they wouldn't meet
in the wild? Does he want to breed? Or is it just instinct? Sometimes other fish
swim in the nest and near it, would he only be aggressive if there were eggs in
there? Thanks
< Can't understand the questions. Need clarification.-Chuck> Veronica
Malawi Cichlid Questions? Writing Getting Better 6/9/06
I hope you can ignore that last message because I sent it when i wasn't
ready. So let me fix that. So my cichlid isn't abnormal, that's good. I'm sure
he isn't the only male. I have 7 cichlids (oops to overcrowding, hoping to get
bigger tank), and no one in the tank is aggressive, maybe chasing but that's it.
I thought dividers always looked that way, and what's a light fixture panel?
<In industrial buildings with flat florescent lighting there are 2 foot by 4
foot panels that diffuse the light from these fixtures down to the floor below.
They look light a white egg crate material. Go to the lighting section of your
home improvement store an you may see what I mean.>
Also, would he breed with a different, um, not orange cichlid? The only one I
can really explain is the cichlid that has the pattern of a figure eight puffer
almost, those two are so cute.
<Malawi cichlids may interbreed with other cichlids. In the aquarium most of
these fish will freely interbreed with each other depending on which fish is
dominant.>
OK let me try to rephrase these. Since nest making is normal for him I'm going
to assume he's not nervous.
< No he is fine.>
Does he want to breed or is it just natural for him to want to make a nest?
< Setting up a territory and wanting to spawn is normal.>
Sometimes the other fish swim near and hover, I guess, over the nest. He isn't
aggressive towards them, should he be?
< If they look like a threat he will chase them away.>
Or would he only be aggressive if there were eggs?
< He really doesn't care about the eggs. He only cares about spawning.>
But then you said something about his territory, would he mark his territory if
there was no reason (no eggs)?
<The territory is in preparation of spawning and nothing to do with eggs until
the spawning act actually takes place.>
I just don't understand why he isn't aggressive towards these other fish. I
hope I rephrased them better, I know what I want to say but I don't know how to
word it properly
<If they look like a threat then he will chased after them. If they look like a
female that may spawn then he will leave them alone.-Chuck>
Re: Malawi Cichlid Nest 6/9/06
Thanks, I hear him moving gravel every night, when will he be done making
his nest?
< As long as he is in good shape and wanting to spawn , he will be looking for a
mate and will continue with the nest. He may slow down but he will never be
done.>
He started Tuesday or Wednesday. The guy at the store I got my new fish at told
me how to identify male and female, he talked about egg spots and a hump on the
males forehead. With these new fish I can't see any egg spots and I know they're
to young to have a hump if they're a male. How can I identify the dominant
female if I can't see any egg spots? To me it looks like all the fish but him
are females.
<The egg spots on the anal fin are not reliable indicators of sex determination
for these fish. The dominant female will be the first one he spawns with.-Chuck>
Re: Malawi Cichlid Building a Nest (Bower) 6/9/06
So at one point there could be something like a canyon, made by him, in my
fish tank. Is it certain that some female in the tank will lay eggs, because I
really don't know what to do with them after they hatch. What would he do if I
filled in the nest?
< Dig it back out.>
Would he make another one?
< AS soon as you put the top back on the tank he would start digging another
one.>
What would he do when I get them a bigger tank?
< Continue to build a new nest or bower. This is really the correct term since
no eggs actually stay in a bower.>
I just have so many questions, and I'm glad you can answer them.
< We will try.-Chuck>
Electric Blue Cichlid with Black Mouth 6/3/06
Hello I have an electric blue that we got about a month ago. He has been
doing really good until my husband put a Pacu in there when I told him not to.
The Pacu was given to him by a friend and I don't know where it has been. It has
been in our take now for about 2 days and I noticed that my electric blue has
black blotches around it's mouth. They aren't little spots really unless there
is a lot of them and they look like a blotch b/c they are all clumped together.
My fish seems to be fine expect I noticed that it is like digging on the bottom
of my tank moving the rocks all off the bottom?? Do possibly know what is wrong
with my blue and what I need to do!! I find him shrimp pellets, could this be
causing the black stuff?? If you would like to see pictures please let me know.
Thank you and I will be awaiting your reply! Christie
< Your cichlid now has a companion and is setting up boundaries by placing piles
of gravel around the tank to delineate where his territory starts and stops. The
darkened areas around the mouth are probably from the gravel being too coarse
and injuring his mouth. Try changing to a smaller/finer substrate.-Chuck>
Cichlids floating vertically - need your help! 6/2/06
Hello,
Our office has 15 Cichlids in a 55 gallon tank. Two of the fish are floating
vertically, with their head up and have been doing so for several days. However,
when we feed them, they eat and swim normally. It does appear they are being
picked on - they have chunks missing from their fins.
<Sounds like submissive behavior... other fishes beating them up, their
signaling that they "give">
The service that cleans the tank says they are probably dying and we might just
want to flush them but we have trouble doing that when we don't even know what
is wrong. It is sad to watch them "float" and we don't want them to suffer.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you!
<I would move these servile fishes, but you need to carefully observe the
others, remove the bully, bullies as well. Bob Fenner>
Lake Malawi Cichlid Mayhem 5/25/06
I'll lay out my question and then give some background details. I have
read your site extensively and am following the advice "it's hard to give too
much information".
Here's my question: Why would a pair of Pseudotropheus yellowfins suddenly
both turn up with nasty wounds on their backs and mouths and die in the same
night when they had (seemingly) gotten along well with all tankmates for
months?
I am a 6-month aquarist novice. I have a 65 gallon cichlid tank with a male
and female (carrying fry) Pseudotropheus Kenyi, male and female pseudo. albino
red zebras, male Melanochromis johanni, male melano. auratus, female yellow
Labidochromis (just got done carrying fry), a Pleco and a Synodontis
multipunctatus. The male yellow lab got beat up and is in our 12 gallon
hospital tank now. There are four pseudo. yellowfin fry growing up (they're
about 1/2" long now) in the adult tank. Their parents are the source of
my question.
We used to have one male and two female pseudo. yellowfins (they're a dark
purple-gray color with bright yellow top and tail fins).
< Sounds like Ps. aurora.>
Six weeks ago one female yellowfin disappeared and we never any sign of
her again. Weeks of peace and harmony went by. The remaining pair of
yellowfins did well, and their fry are scattered in safe crevices of the main
tank. We resigned yourself to the notion that when I had the tank lid open for
several hours to catch the male yellow lab on the sly and put him in the
hospital tank, the female yellowfin must have jumped out and gotten eaten by
our dog or something (we were at a loss for any other explanation of the
instant and total disappearance of a 2.5" long fish).
< Could have easily died and been eaten by the Pleco.>
Thinking all was now well, we decided to buy the last fish we wanted: a female
johanni and another female Kenyi. My husband did the shopping ten days
ago and came home with a female Kenyi and a "female johanni". The moment I
saw the "female johanni" my
husband bought, I knew it was actually a male Melanochromis of some other sort
-- turns out it's an auratus (good grief, if the cichlid expert is out for the
day, don't take the word of just anybody at the pet store!!).
<Big difference between a yellow female johanni and a black and yellow auratus.>
He's doing great as the smallest non-fry fish in the tank, but the female
Kenyi died the night she got home from the pet store. She had no visible
wounds upon her death. Seven days went by without incident, but two days ago I
came home to find both our adult yellowfins, one female and one male, with
nasty wounds around their mouths and what looked like one huge, circular wound
right on top of their back. Both fish had the same kind of wound on the
back which spanned approximately 1/3 the length of their bodies and
was semicircular upon side view. They both died that night. When I
(heartbroken) took their bodies to the "cichlid expert" at our pet store, his
opinion was that the male auratus, only a resident for one week, was the
primary suspect for such aggression. The other fish experts at the store
offered two contradictory opinions: one said that since the male yellowfin
normally shares a large synthetic log with the Synodontis, perhaps the female
yellowfin tried to move in to spawn and the Synodontis aggressively kicked them
both out. The third theory was that we have some sort of bacterial
infection (this was espoused in part by the fact that the other fish hadn't
been as aggressive to feed that morning and the night before). Ammonia and
nitrites are 0 and pH is 7.8. (We'll be adding crushed coral to the gravel
during our next cleaning to help keep the pH a little higher). Temp is 78
degrees F. We bought the medication the store recommended (PimaFix) but did
not administer it yet because that evening the fish ate voraciously again and
we saw no other afflicted fish. The only other thing out of the ordinary now
is one very cloudy eye on the female albino zebra. The male albino has
been excavating gravel, so perhaps she received a mating injury, but
that's just a guess. Can you help me understand what might have so suddenly
killed my pair of parent yellowfins? I'll admit I get very emotional about our
fish and this incident has made me question whether I will be able to remain a
cichlid keeper for long. If there's an eminent danger lurking in our tank, I
want to know and remedy it!! Sincerely, Kristy, Raleigh, NC
< There are basically only a couple of things that really are a problem with
Lake Malawi cichlids. One is aggression. Usually you see weaker fish being
chased by more dominant fish and the tails of the loser are being slowly bitten
off. These fish do have teeth and can do some damage but it is usually not
overnight. It happens most often after a few days. Now a fish that is being
aggressively chased can attempt to jump out of the tank and kill itself by
striking the glass top and knocking itself out. This may explain the mouth
damage that you observed. The second reason is internal infections. Your fish
really need an all vegetarian diet. Fish that are fed too much protein have
problems with internal blockages. These blockages feed the bacteria and protozoa
in the gut and they start to fed on the food and not the fish. the microorganism
grow and distend the belly area. The fish stops eating and usually hangs out in
the corner until it dies. Other fish can eat the carcass of the dead fish and
this can cause others to bloat up and die. The distressed fish is usually pretty
well colored and is the prettiest , and easiest fish to catch at the store. This
may explain the female Kenyi's death. The marks on the back are done by the
Pleco eating the bodies of the dead fish.-Chuck>
Kenyi Changing Color - 05/22/2006
Greetings from Nashville to the WWM Crew, I have a 75 gallon FW setup with 4
Kenyi and 3 hap. borleyi. My question is about the kenyi's. Several months
ago, when purchasing, I chose what I thought to be 1 male and 3 females breeding
purposes. Just recently I noticed 1 of the fish that I thought was a female
changing colors (more yellow than blue), so I assumed that it was a male and was
getting its color late. Yesterday, I noticed it going through the mating process
with the male (yellow) and seems to be carrying (not eating, etc). My
questions: Is this change in color normal for Kenyi when the females are ready
to breed or do you have any other suggestions for me as to the color
change? Any info would help. I have successfully bred blue johani and red
zebras, but am new to breeding Kenyi, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
JHM
< Many Lake Malawi cichlids are usually sexually dimorphic but there are
occasional females that take on male coloration. Normally it is the other way
around. A male tries to look like a female for as long as he can so he will not
get beat up by the dominant male.-Chuck>
Re: Hair Algae Keeps Reappearing on Java Fern Even After Bleach Dips - Has it
Mutated the Plants? & Af. Cichlid Beh. 5/17/06
Bob,
<Cindy>
I cleaned the 2nd infected tank last night and I think you are right about
Cyanobacteria being part of the culprit.
<This is almost assuredly the case... can be confirmed through microscopic
examination...>
I had a couple of lace rocks in the tank. They had what appeared to be a reddish
brown gunk, which upon closer examination was actually dark blue green,
interspersed with the hair algae.
<Color is not a sure indication... but "sliminess" can be telling>
I've had Cyano outbreaks before and always removed the lace rock and soaked it
in 3:1 bleach solution, followed by dechlorination and an hour or so boil on the
stove. (Isn't it usually men who get in trouble for this?
<Heeeeeeee! Watch that/this...>
In my house I'm the one who gets in trouble because part of the house looks
like a lab and I'm the one who sneaks in new aquariums like some women do
clothes!!!)
<Mmm, I have a theory that folks/individuals are not entirely all fe/male... but
a waving mix... Even that "real" people retain their child-like qualities of
wonder, open-ness... I like it!>
After reading your articles about how minerals in rocks feed Cyano I've decided
to remove all rock from my tanks.
Now the challenge will be finding suitable alternatives for Cichlid hiding
places for 4 tanks - in one tank my largest Cichlid is a 6" Deep Water Hap
(Placidochromis Electra) and the smallest is a 4" Lab (Labidochromis
Caeruleus). The others have cichlids from 2.5" - 4.5" Got any ideas?
<All sorts... better to treat the whole tank, even all tanks at once if you're
going the antibiotic chemical algicide route. Necessary to whack all the BGA to
prevent, slow-down its recurrence>
Cindy
P.S. Bob, I talked to you a few weeks ago and mentioned I was getting ready to
introduce a young Astatotilapia latifasciata male into a tank with a large
female of the same species. She was alone at the time so I was worried she'd be
extra territorial. The male is all colored up, but only 1/6 her size. I set up
a tank divider and moved him in with her. I left the room for only a moment to
find he had jumped the divider. He was in her cave with her, no less! She
tolerated it, but I was nervous so I moved him back over and lowered the water
level. A few days later I found him with her again so I kept an eye on them and
decided it was safe to remove the divider. She still gets irritated and chases
him, especially at feeding time, but it's obvious she's accepted him. This
wasn't the first time a fish has jumped a divider on me.
<Happens>
A few months earlier I introduced 2 young Female Aulonocara Rubescens to a full
grown male. Same thing happened, I left the room only to come back and find one
of the females with the male. I moved her back and the next morning I found her
with him again! Those two
are still inseparable to this day. She staked off turf right next to his cave
and lip locked the other female whenever she approached. For a while it
appeared the male was going to be monogamous with her (I know, highly unlikely,
but he showed no interest in the 2nd female and would chase her away, as
well). In fact, the 2nd female recently chased him for days until her
ovipositor was bulging before she got him interested (either that or she laid
sterile eggs) and finally began mouth brooding. Not certain what happened here,
she must have aborted because she began eating a week later.
<First goes are often rough...>
The first female is holding her 2nd brood (I have her 1st fry in a tank and they
are 7 wks old).
<Neat!>
I sure hope you do decide write a book on freshwater husbandry. I'd buy it in a
heartbeat!
<Am constantly adding to this work... and have good friends who are also
building such... perhaps you will join us. Bob Fenner>
Strange Tunneling Cichlid
Hello, This might be the strangest question you ever get. My cichlid, I
believe it's a Pseudotropheus socolofi Cichlid. Maybe? It's the one that looks
the most like the one I have. The question is about his behavior. He hides all
the time now. He use to swim around and play with the others. Now he just moves
the rocks around to build up his hiding spots. It's neat, but he never use to do
that. What's going on? Darrel King
Sorry about the stupid question. I'm just starting out.
< Your Lake Malawi cichlid is growing up and setting up a territory. The pits
outline his turf and he will guard this area from other fish unless it is a
breeding female.-Chuck>
African Cichlids That Change Color - 04/11/2006
Just wondering. Mine has gone from a light blue to a ruddy green. Is
this normal?
< Depending on the species, many cichlids from Lake Malawi change color from a
juvenile or female coloration to a male coloration.-Chuck>
Aggressive African Cichlids 3/20/06
Hey guys, I have a 55 gallon tank with 6 cichlids in it. I am not sure what
kind they all are, but when I got them at the fish store they were labeled
small African cichlids. 3 are orange, one is an electric yellow I believe, and 2
are
purple with black horizontal bands. One of the orange ones is larger than
the other fish, and chases the rest of them around. One of the orange fish he
chewed up pretty bad, almost his whole tail was bitten off, so he's in a
hospital
tank for now. My question is, is there a way to keep the large one from being
so territorial all the time? The other fish just hide in the fake plants on
one side of the tank all the time, unless I am feeding them. I read that dither
fish can be used to get the fish to come out from hiding, but will it work
if the larger cichlid is the culprit? I appreciate any help you can give me!
Dave
< Move the rocks around and lower the water temp to 75 F. Adding dither fish
like giant danios or rainbows will help spread out some of the
aggression.-Chuck>
Aggressive Neolamprologus brichardi 2/22/06
Thanks for all your help. I got 4 Brichardi a week ago. Two days ago we
noticed three were ganging up on one and we looked closer and saw that the
tail fin is partly gone (instead of looking like a crescent moon it is
straight.) It was also swimming straight up and gulping at the top. I
separated it (still inside the tank but inside a bag that is partially mesh). It
stopped going at the top and is swimming. I saw it eat today. I
added some stress coat. I did a partial water change. It looks like its fins are
shredded at the ends. Now I notice that all the
fish have what looks like little white specks on them. What can I do?
Thanks, Audrey
<Sounds like a pair or trio has formed and the odd fish has been kicked out. Do
not try to reintroduce the abused fish as it will only get beat up again until
it is killed or it jumps out. The remaining group will probably spawn in a harem
fashion. You can leave the fry in with the adults until they get about an inch.
Raise the water temp to 82 F and increase the aeration in case you have
ich.-Chuck>
Fish scratching not Ich - 02/20/06
Hi
I have over a dozen Mbuna cichlids. About three or four weeks ago I noticed a
P. demasoni flashing [scratching itself on the gravel]. I could find no sign of
parasites on it or any of the other fish. I did a water change and treated the
tank with Jungle Parasite Guard.
<I encourage you to be conservative re the use of such "medicines"... almost all
have their dire downsides... they're toxic to degrees>
The fish still scratched itself.
<Some such scratching is "normal", to be expected>
The tank was treated again with Jungle Parasite Guard after a 50% water change.
Still no change. Then I noticed another fish start to flash. I did a another 50%
water change after treatment and waited several days.
<... do you have water quality test kits? What are they telling you?>
The two fish still scratched themselves on the gravel. I then treated the tank
with Maracide as per instructions and after no change did it again to no avail.
During this time I searched the internet for possible ideas. I thought they
might have Ich on their gills and it was not showing up on their bodies,
<No, not likely>
I also thought of gill flukes. Now several of the fish scratch themselves. All
fish eat normally and their colours are normal. They all look healthy but
scratch.
<... do this>
Any suggestions you might have would be appreciated. The fish are now in a
125 gallon tank with about 300 pounds or rock and plants so trying to catch them
would be nearly impossible so the tank would have to be treated. The temperature
is about 78 degrees Fahrenheit. By the way I did put some antibiotics in in case
it was a bacterial problem but the next day put the fish into the 125 gallon
tank. Ammonia is zero and nitrite is less than .1. Thank you for any
help. Brian
<Nitrite should be zero, undetectable... Nitrates should be under twenty... I
suspect if anything is "off" here it is a lack of complete ready biological
cycling... I would add more bio-filtration. Bob Fenner>
Re: Fish scratching not Ich - 02/20/06
Hi again
Sorry I forgot to mention in my last email that as I have a Synodontis
catfish in the tank with about 160 dollars worth of plants I believe I cannot
use Clout or Coppersafe.
<Great to find you can keep plants with your Africans... and you don't want to
become or remain a user of such "med.s">
I may be mistaken though. Also I put Cycle in the tank and Filstar 3 filter all
the time.
<Need more than this filter>
A 25% water change is done while vacuuming the gravel every week.
<I would only vacuum half the tanks bottom any given week... alternate
left/right>
Fresh water from our Sandpoint is replaced at the same temperature. Should I try
erythamacin [sp?]
<No>
again but leave it in the tank for the required amount of time? I worry about
the catfish whenever I use medication even though I read the instructions. Also
i did not want to use any medication that will harm the plants or stain the
silicone in the tank. Again thanks so much. Brian
<... Read my friend... and don't be so ready to treat your fishes, or yourself
by "buying" things. Bob Fenner>
Cichlid(s)Causing Problems 2/13/06
Hi, I have a peacock cichlid store name). He has a blue face with yellow and
black stripes and red fins all of them are red). Anyways, he has within the last
2 days been very vibrantly colored. Usually his black markings are more grey and
lately (seemingly constant) he has been very bright and vibrant. We have no
females in the tank but that seems to be fine when we are home there is
absolutely very little aggression in the tank. Hardly ever do the males lock
jaws or chase each other.
<You said you have a male peacock. Who is he locking jaws with?>
(plus on a side note we also have tiger barbs and Bala sharks in the same tank
now for the last 4 months and have not lost a single one to the cichlids).
< Cichlids? What other cichlids are in the tank?>
On a side note my tanks water has become very cloudy. I have done a water test
and all the levels seem to be in the ok ranges.
< You should have zero ammonia and nitrites. The nitrates should be under 25
ppm. OK means nothing.>
We changed the filter and have done water changes the water has been cloudy
since just after the peacock has become bright. Any clue as to what this is and
if the peacock is re-establishing dominance in the tank?
< Dominance over who? It would simply just chase the other fish away.>
Any idea as to how long he will take to be satisfied he is dominant?
< Dominant cichlids stay dominant until something pushes them aside>
There is no cloudy tuff or spots on any of the fish. Yesterday the peacock was
jittery he would stop in one spot kind of shimmy his whole body and then he
would swim off and today all the fish were at the top of the tank seeming to
gasp for air. We have another air filter that we put in the tank besides the
main tank filter and now they seem to be ok any clue?
< I think that the peacock cichlid killed another fish and the body is stuck in
a rock somewhere polluting the tank with high ammonia levels.>
We have had the tank and all the fish for roughly 5 months with no problems
whatsoever. We also just recently put some plants in( the plants were
Cabomba). The store said it would be ok for cichlids and most other fish and
also said that we could give the fish fresh vegetables or fruit. Any idea on
which would be best other that peas? Thanks so much.
< Pull all the rocks and ornaments out of the tank. Do a 50% water change,
vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Feed you fish once a day and only enough
food so that all of it is gone in two minutes once each day. Get a food with
Spirulina in it instead of wasting your money on plants that will get torn up
and clog your filter. You letter was very difficult to understand because of the
lack of punctuation and Grammar. If you want you questions answered in the
future you will need to review you questions with proper punctuation or they
will be deleted.-Chuck> <<Just returned. RMF>>
Mean Jewel Fish 1/30/06
Hello, I have a 55 gallon tank with 2 yellow labs, 2 clown loaches, a golden
nugget pleco, a red jewel, and I just introduced a second blue jewel about a week
ago. They are all pretty close in size, about 2.5 maybe 3 inches. Everything
seemed to go smoothly until the new blue jewel became extremely aggressive, to the
point that he has killed the clown loaches, damaged the fins on 2 of the yellow
labs, and really did a number on the red jewel, bad enough that I had to put it
in a quarantine tank to recover. So that brings me to my 2 part question. # 1;
How should I deal with the blue jewel being that aggressive, is that normal?
< Fish from the genus Hemichromis are very aggressive as a group. Some more than
others. Your description of the events sounds normal for a jewel cichlid.>
2; The red jewel looks real bad, with bite marks and really beat up and frayed
fins. What is the best treatment to remedy that problem?
< Keep the water clean and use Bio-Coat by Marineland. Add a teaspoon of rock
salt per 5 gallons of water. If you see any infection of fungus then treat the
tank with Nitrofurazone.>
Any info is greatly appreciated, Thank you. And lastly, Really great Website!
< Thanks for you kind words.-Chuck>
Blue Dolphin Cichlid Will Not Eat 12/2/05
Hi guys. I am writing because on Friday I got a Blue Dolphin and he has not been eating. We have tried everything. Shrimp pellets, Cichlid flakes, blood worms,
Tubifex, and floating pellets. Nothing worked. So decided better go to the LFS to see what they were feeding. The were feeding frozen Cichlid delight. So we purchased that. He swims around and seems to be normal otherwise. He is in a 55 gallon with a small Frontosa and Blood parrot, which we got at the same time. Nitrates .5 ppm and Nitrites zero, ammonia low can remember exact reading but low. One thing I did notice he was doing was like a rapid mouth stretch. But he has absolutely shown no interest in food. I am afraid that he is going to die if he doesn't eat soon. Please any help you could provide would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks, Lori
<These fish are actually sand sifters in the wild. If you see him picking up mouthfuls of sand then he is actually eating. If the fish is actually not picking at the food then it may have an internal bacterial infection and needs to be
treated with Metronidazole.-Chuck> Fish Hides Too Much, Can't Train for Dissertation! 12/1/05
Hi I'm a little worried about my Cyrtocara moorii (I think that's how you spell
it!).
<<It is, and color me surprised, as the last time I kept one of these
guys they were called Haplochromis moorii (if I recollect correctly)!
Great fish (but then, I love African cichlids). Marina>>
I have a 3' tank with a Fluval 4 internal filter. I put him in there about 6 months ago, he's doing well. He's around 5 - 6". Recently I put another
moorii in there - bear in mind that this one is only about an inch long.
He's hiding under the filter, he was behind some rocks too (but I've moved them to the back wall and added some more to them) He was just sitting there
and spitting gravel. Now I've moved the rocks out of the way, he's just sitting
under the filter (sulking - well that's how it seems to me).
The major problem is that I have to train him for my dissertation! And he just doesn't come out - well he does sometimes but as soon as he sees me
move he goes back under the filter. Prior to me putting the smaller one in there he was out all the time, seemed really happy. Any ideas why? Thanks Lyndsey
< The new little fish has spooked the big fish into a flight response. While the bigger fish was accustomed to being out, the littler fish wasn't too sure. You can make them feel more comfortable with the use of dither fish like rainbows. The constant activity of the schooling fish should get them out and about.-Chuck>
African cichlids, Please help? 10/17/05
I have a 55 gal aquarium and 10 cichlids, a Pleco and a bottom feeder. First how many can I have in the
tank?
<Depends on the type/species... one Boulengerochromis would be too many...>
Also some of them are rubbing in thing as to be itching. They look fine. But one of my electric yellows is like staying in one spot like swimming in place.
<Do rub somewhat, even when healthy... and the one fish may be being bullied... hopefully you have plenty of hiding places for all>
I go to the tank and he acts normal but then goes back to the corner and sort of hovers there. I put salt in the tank and I have been treating with Aquari-sol in case of a parasite. should I be to worried or is it in there character rub against stuff ?
Laura
<Mmm, not necessarily. Have you a good-sized public library nearby? Go and look for the small African Cichlid books by Paul Loiselle... and read them. Bob Fenner>
African Cichlid Aggression
Hi, I have 4 African cichlids. Two of the fish keep grabbing on to each
others mouth. What does that mean? One of the fish is getting his face chewed
up. One is yellow and the other is more red underneath and a little bigger. He
is the one that is getting killed. Please help me. Frank
< African cichlids are very territorial. In the wild, these fish from Lake
Malawi get their food from scraping algae off of rocks. The bigger their
territory the more food they have. Unfortunately in the aquarium these teeth
used to scrape the algae off of the rocks can do a great deal of damage on the
other fish. When you see them going head to head they are fighting for
territory. I would remove the wounded fish to a hospital tank and get him healed
up. Before you put him back in I reduce the water temp to 75 degrees F and move
all the rocks around to new locations so they have to find new
territories.-Chuck>
Electric Yellow labido (libido?) Cichlid Acting Strange
Hi, I have an electric yellow that always hid out in a barrel, he was not sociable at all. Just the other day I added 2 red zebra cichlids to my tank I
also have 4 zebra tilapias. Being a beginner I rearranged the tank to make the introduction easier for the fish and break up any
territories. Since adding the new fish, my yellow stands upright head up in the corner and sometimes appears
to be slightly on his side I have researched this and find a lot of material on head stands but nothing on the opposite can you help? All of the other
fish seem fine. Please help!
< Your electric yellow is out of territories with nowhere else to go. The new fish have displaced the
electric yellow. I would add more rocks or pipes to create new territories or add more fish so the aggression levels are more spread out to other fish.-Chuck>
African Cichlid Problems
I recently bought 2 cichlids, one is a Labidochromis caeruleus and the other
is either the Melanochromis johannii or cyaneorhabdos (not sure which and the
store didn't know). It is a 5 gallon tank, which I now know is probably too
small for them. The Melanochromis is going after the Labidochromis, not too
aggressively but enough to cause the yellow one to sit most of the time hiding
in the plants. He still comes out every now and then and is eating, but is
starting to get dark rings around him and his face is looking dirty. The
pH
level is 7.6, and the temperature is usually between 76-77 degrees. I saw on
this website that his "dirty" look might be caused by stress from the other fish
picking on him?
< Fish that are being picked on rarely color up.>
I've only had them 2 weeks, is it too soon to move them up to a larger tank
before they've gotten used to this one?
<Over time the Melanochromis will kill the Labidochromis if things don't
change.>
I don't want to cause them additional stress. If it's ok to move them, should I
move the yellow one first so he can get comfortable and establish his own space
and then move the blue one in, or will that matter? I'm very happy with them,
they are so much fun to watch (to the point I'm ignoring work I should be
doing!) so I don't want to loose either one.
Thanks! Christine
< You fish will get up to three to four inches. They do best in a big tank with
lots of rocks. They do need to be very crowded to disperse the aggression so
lots of filtration and water changes are needed. They do best on a vegetarian
diet. I would recommend that you get different fish that do better in a smaller
tank until you are ready to move up to a bigger set up designed for African
cichlids.-Chuck> Aggressive Cichlids
Hey what's up it's Miles. I am just wondering. which is the most aggressive African
cichlid species, the ones in Malawi, Victoria, or Tanganyika? <<Editor's
note: Miles, please, use proper capitalization.>>
< All three lake have cichlids with attitude problems because they are cichlids and are
territorial. Overall I would probably say the ones from Lake Malawi, especially the Mbuna. They all eat algae so they need to defend a rock to allow the algae to grow on it so they will have something to eat. If they don't chase the other fish away then they will lose their source of food.-Chuck>
Malawi Cichlids
Hi
I have about 24 assorted Malawi cichlids and about 4 loaches ( Had a snail prob
)
For about a day now, quite a few of them have been swimming near the surface (
Looks like they are trying get some fresh air, lol )
Any idea why as they have not done it b4 ??
< Check the filter and make sure it is clean and running properly. Do a 30%
water change. Check the water quality. Ammonia should be zero. Nitrites should
be zero. Nitrates should be below 25 ppm. Check the pH it should be around 7.5.
Check the water temp, it should be around 78 degrees F. Don't feed for a few
days until they start acting normal again.-Chuck>
Thanks all
An electric yellow gets dark
It has been sometime since I have queried, which is a good thing
because it means everything has been good in all my tanks.
However, I now have a situation which causes me to wander. My bright
electric yellow, who I have had for close to two years now, is no
longer bright. He has taken on a rather dirty appearance; his face has
grown dark as have the bands around his body. Otherwise, he seems
healthy, as do his tankmates. I am wondering if this is a natural part
of his aging or if I should be worried.
Also, if Chuck is out there, I am happy to report that, about a month
or so ago, my green terror suddenly started eating in the old manner.
His growth had seemingly stopped, but he has gotten noticeably larger
since returning to his strike and gobble routine.
Bill
***Hey Bill,
There are several things that come to mind. Water conditions - what are the
params? Diet - What are you feeding him? He should be fed a diet of high quality
cichlid preparations, as well as a fair amount of protein. Origin - is this an
F1? F20? The further away you get from a wild caught fish, the more
chromatically challenged they become, and sometimes it's not apparent right
away. This particular species is a big problem in this department. They are easy
to breed, and easy to sell so many hobbyists breed them without regard to the
quality of fish they're producing. Dominance - is he being picked on? Stress
will cause color shifts in fish. Genetics - he might just be genetically
predisposed to this.
Cheers
Jim***
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