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Equipment/Pumps/Iwaki Complaint - 2/28/2006 Hi guys
(gals)! Peter here. <James on this side.> I just wanted to let
you and other potential Iwaki pump purchasers know about my recent saga.
<Shoot.> I purchased an MD-70 (Japanese motored) via Marine
Depot. When I installed the pump, it was extremely loud - not
vibration, but the fan on the back makes a very loud "whooshing"
noise. <Typical.> The second my wife walked in from work, she
said "what is that noise." The tank is in the other room, across the
house. I removed it after maybe 2 hours of operation. I contacted
Marine Depot who told me that once the pump has touched water, they can
not accept it for return as Iwaki would not accept it back. He
recommended that I contact Iwaki direct and find out if they would do a
refund or exchange it for a smaller pump which would be quieter (in his
words). So I contacted Iwaki and explained the situation. They
said they would be more than happy to swap out the pump for a smaller
model - I requested nothing for the difference in cost of the smaller
pump. At this point I was very happy as I mailed off the pump. Then 2
weeks later, I call to check on the status. This is where it goes
south. The gentleman says, "oh, it arrived last week, but I don't know
if they've looked at it yet. Let me check and call you back." A few
minutes later, I get a call and he tells me, well, the cord is shorter
than it was when originally sold, and thus, they can not accept the pump
back. <Some companies do have strict policies as sad as it may
be.> Now those of you who have researched the Japanese motored Iwaki
pumps know that they do not come with a plug on the cord. So when I
received the pump, I went to Lowe's and bought a plug (with cord) to
attach. I cut the cord on the pump maybe 8-12 inches in order to avoid
having 3 feet of excess - as I think anyone would do? There was still a
good 2 feet of slack on the pump cord. Now they say that because the
cord is shorter, that they can not resell it and thus can not accept it
back. Why don't they put a cord on the darned thing to begin with if
they don't want people altering it? IT'S A $5 CORD, HOW HARD IS IT TO
ATTACH A NEW CORD? It's a $300 pump, you would think that something
this simple would be nothing compared to customer satisfaction. I
guess that doesn't matter any more. After all of the good things I
heard here about Iwaki and their pumps, I must say I completely
disagree. They may last a long time, but they are by no means quiet (by
any definition of the word) and their customer support is
terrible. Sorry for my rant, but I think others should be aware of what
they are getting into. As for WWM - The site is great and here,
customer service is top priority (and we don't even pay anything for
it). PRICELESS <Peter, thank you for the kind words, about us
anyway. I'm sure Mr. Fenner will post this on the Wet Web. Will serve
as a warning to Iwaki pump buyers not to alter the unit in any way so as
to protect the warranty and/or exchange privileges. <James (Salty Dog)>
Best regards, Peter Inline pump questions
1/16/06 Hello again Crew- <Hello Brent> I want to upgrade my
current Pondmaster Mag-Drive Model 7 unit (700 GPH) with a Pan World
100PX-X (1270GPH). Details for what I want to setup are below. Is
there a difference in the amount of heat transferred to the water
between these two pumps? <Not familiar with the Pan World.> And,
can the Pan World (or other similar type pump) pass copepod/amphipod
sized creatures without turning them into a puree? <You may
lose a few but most should survive. I wouldn't expect many would enter
the intake.> What are the advantages to these pumps (Pan World,
Iwaki, Little Giant) in general? <As I mentioned, not familiar
with Pan World. Iwaki's are a quieter and a little more energy
efficient than the Little Giants. I think the Quiet One pumps are
pretty energy efficient and quiet for their modest cost. The 4000 model
puts out 1017 gph with a maximum 10' head and draws 50 watts. A similar
Little Giant will draw 100 watts. I always look for the wattage draw
when selecting a pump as the lower this is the less heat transfer there
is.> Currently I have a 100 g. tank setup, but will soon be adding
an additional 55 g. refugium tank. I want to use one pump acting as the
return for both tanks, keeping the possibility of flooding to a minimum
in the event of a power outage/pump failure. I will install a T-joint
off the new pump (using a ball regulator for lower current in the
refugium tank). Likewise, each tank will have an external overflow
connected via a T-joint at my sump. <Better to run these
individually.> I'm still not sure if I will make the two tanks sit
at the same level or not. This and related topics will need to wait
for another message. I'm glad you guys and gals are here to help!!
<Well thank you. James (Salty Dog)> Thanx, <You're welcome.>
Brenton, San Francisco Pumping uphill 10/11/05 Thanks
for the continued help. Making a 150 gal. with 2 x 1.5"- 2" overflows
for FOWLR (trigger and snapper). All equipment will be located in
basement on an elevated platform for ease of maint., will have about 11'
-12' of head, what type of pump would you recommend? I've been
looking at the Iwaki MD100RLT and the Dolphin 4700 Aqua Sea Amp Master,
the Dolphin offers way more gph at that head, but is the quality equally
as high? Would the returning water from either pump in a closed loop
give me the necessary circulation without adding any other pumps,
powerheads, etc.? <Mike choose a pump larger than what you actually
need to compensate for your closed loop system. You can control the
output with a gate valve. I'd check of the Gen-X pumps, they look pretty
efficient as far as gph/watt. As far as the Iwaki/Dolphin choice...I
know the Iwaki's are good pumps and not real familiar with Dolphin, but
never heard any negative feedback about them. James (Salty Dog)>
Pump recommendation 3/28/04 I have a 240 gal tank to set up as a
reef. It is a tall design. Total head pressure will be about 10
feet. It will be located in a living area. What would you recommend
as a good choice of pump to give sufficient flow but also produce
minimal noise? <seek a Japanese made Iwaki that does 4000-5000 gph
at that head (be sure to drill enough overflow holes to handle this
flow)> It came with a Little Giant 4-mdsqx but it is rather noisy.
<not as quiet, strong or long-lasting> Thanks L Mathies <best
regards, Anthony> Iwaki pump - 12/23/03 I recently
purchased an Iwaki MD40RLT. It seems to function great, but at 4 feet of
head, the return is almost too strong for my tank w/a 5'' DSB. <In
the world of Marine aquarium equipment, we all get used to exaggerated
claims.... Skimmers rated for a 300 gallon tank when we all know they
will only handle 100, miracle additives and the like. Well, Iwaki
delivers and then some. In my experience, either Iwaki rates their
pumps conservatively or everyone else is pretty liberal, because they
move some serious water for their rating!> It stirs everything up no
matter where I direct the return head. <I am chuckling as I read this
from having suffered through the same problem. I see you said "the
return head", singular.> Is there any way I can reduce this? I
planned on using a couple of powerheads as well, rated at about 300 GPH.
Any other possibilities here.. Thank you <Absolutely. Since your
drains will obviously handle the full output of the pump, I would divide
the return at least in two, if not into several separate returns. This
will keep a lot of water moving, but reduce the velocity at any one
point, helping keep your sand put.> HTH. Adam> Pumps and
head loss for manifold 10/8/03 I am attempting to build a
circulation manifold for my 150 gallon tank from 1" PVC. I used the Head
Loss Calculator at Reef Central and came up with 11 foot of head loss
for my design. 60" vertical, 12" horizontal, 5 90 degree elbows,
friction factor of .018 with 1" PVC. According to the guy on the phone
at www.Marinedepot.com
that accounts for an actual flow rate of 600 GPH for the Iwaki 40RLXT.
For the 55RLT it would be 900 with an 11ft loss and for the 70RLT is
would be 1260. My question is that it would seem I need to get the 70RLT
to match my overflow box rating of up to 1400 GPH and get the flow
suggested. I just wanted to make sure these numbers sounded right to you
and that for a regular manifold for a 150 gallon tank, a guy would
need to buy a 70RLT to get the kind of circulation you guys suggest, at
least 5 times tank volume. Thanks <your estimate and assumption is
correct... and know that if this is a full blown reef display, you will
still need to add powerheads or a closed loop pump to the display to get
into the proper 10-20X tank turnover per hour range recommended. Best
regards, Anthony> Pumps How do the
Mag 18 pumps compare to the Iwaki WMD40RLXT, both are rated at about the
same gph but I'm not sure how good the Mag pumps are? (they are cheaper)
does the rule apply "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR". Which would you
recommend? <The Iwaki brand is generally considered top of the line by
most aquarists. That being said I love my Mags, I have a Mag 12 and a
Mag 18 and have been very very pleased with them. MacL> Thanks
Big Pump Noise I currently have a 180g mini reef tank with an
Iwaki 100 RLT as my main pump. I am really struggling with the noise
level of this pump as the tank is in the same room where I have an
entertainment system. I have enclosed the back side of the sump area
and this has made it tolerable, but I am still tempted to turn off the
pump when I watch a movie because of the noise. <Could you use some
type of insulation as a sound barrier. I have also seen people use mouse
pads under the pump to help deaden the noise> Is there a pump with
similar output that would be substantially more quiet? <Others here
have spoken well for the Dolphin AmpMaster although the longevity may
not be as good as the Iwaki> Thanks, Marc <Hope this works out,
Don> Pumps For Maximum Performance
Hello, <Hi there! Scott F. here today!> I am a frequent reader
of your web site. It is great, thank you. <Glad that you enjoy it!>
I have a question about pump selection. I have a 90 Gallon Oceanic tank
with dual built in corner overflows. The return lines are 3/4" they are
built into the overflows. The pipes dumping back into my sump are
1.5". Can you confirm their capacity. I'm estimating somewhere around
2400 GPH. <That's probably pretty close.> Also, can you tell me
how much water I can pump up from my sump without having a water fall
sound constantly back to the sump. Right now I'm pumping
500 GPH and it is very quiet. I'd like to keep the sound down.
<Unfortunately, the only way to really answer that one is to play with
your pump a bit. Trial and error is really the only way to determine
this. Every system will react differently; every system has different
acoustical characteristics, too...> Also, I'm looking at the Iwaki
MD40RLXT which pumps 1200 gallons at 4' head. My stand is 30" and my
tank is 24" so it is 4 1/2 feet. Is this the right size pump or should
I be looking to go bigger, keeping noise as a concern? <I have used
the Iwaki MD40RLT in the past. It's a pressure-rated pump (the RLXT is
designed for circulation), but pushes about 750gph. I'd hardly call it
"quiet", but it is a great, reliable pump! If you are pushing against
significant head, I'd go for a pressure rated pump. In my experience,
the Iwaki MD55 RLT is quieter than the '40, and it pushes around
1100gph. On my current system, I am using a Sequence Dart, which is an
extremely powerful, very efficient, and amazingly quiet pump. I've been
very pleased with this pump so far.> Also, it is 1" PVC pipe, can I
convert this to two 3/4" returns without any problems? <I would not
reduce the returns, myself.> Thanks for answering all of my
questions. Brent <Hope you found this information useful!
Regards, Scott F.> Moving Water! (Pump Selection)
Hi!!!! <Hi there! Scott F. here today!> Have learned a tremendous
amount from reading the daily questions and replies. I have a 125 AGA
with home made internal overflows. They are 12 x 5 with slots cut. The
slots create a total over flow area of aprox 9" linear inches with 1.5"
drains in each corner overflow and .75" returns. How much flow do you
think I will get into my sump with this arrangement and if not enough
should I cut a few of the notches out to create more linear overflow
area? <I'm guessing that you'd be able to pull at least 1100 gph or
thereabouts...You could always cut out some of the "teeth" from the
overflow if you are not getting the flow that you want.> The pumps I
have been looking at for the overflow return is either a Iwaki MD55RLT
or a Blueline 55HD. Have heard much about the Iwakis but nothing much on
the Blueline? <I have Iwakis, and I have read about Blueline. They
are reported to be good quality. I am a bit partial to Iwaki, myself.
The MD55RLT is pressure rated, and moves about 1050 gph...Good pump.>
I will also be putting in a closed loop system with a 1.5" drain and (5)
.75 returns. What size Iwaki or Blueline pump would you recommend?
<I'd go for an MD55RLT or an MD70...Go for the flow!> Also is it true
on a closed loop system there is no head loss as in returns from sumps?
<Essentially, none, or very little, depending upon your plumbing
geometry!> I truly appreciate you time and responses. Thanks Jim
McCauley <My pleasure, Jim. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Multiple Skimmer Setup and Pump Selection Hi guys, <Hi
there! Scott F. your guy tonight!> Love your site. I'll be quick and
to the point. I am setting up a new system, either 135 gallon or 180
gallon reef, depending on what I can arrange. They will have dual
overflows of 1 inch holes. I looked at all types of skimmers and cannot
see how making the body of a skimmer an inch wider and two or three
inches taller makes it double the performance capability. I decided to
purchase two Precision Marine Bullet 1 skimmers to work together on this
tank. <Fine skimmers with a nice reputation...Two skimmers on one
tank! You're MY kind of fish nut!> Now I have to decide how to power
these skimmers. At first I thought I would use a Iwaki WMD-4ORLT for
each skimmer and a pump for the return to the main tank. Noise is a
consideration for me since it is in my family room and I read that these
pumps (the 40's) are fairly loud? <As someone who used an MD40 for a
few years, I can tell you that they were too loud for my taste. Amazing
quality; built like an M1 tank, reliable as anything- but too darned
noisy for me!> In the past I have used little giant 4's and felt
they were loud. So my question is should I use one bigger pump for
everything, or one for the skimmers and one for return to the tank or
one for each skimmer and one for the return? <Well, you could
conceivably use one powerful pump for everything, and create a manifold
with ball valves to power everything, or you can work out a gravity feed
as well. However, I'd recommend two pumps: One pump for the system, and
another for both of the skimmers, teed off for maximum control. This
way, you minimize disruption to the system if you have to do maintenance
to one of the components, etc.> Basically, which is better, three
small ones like t4's or something like an Ampmaster or Iwaki 100?
<As stated above, Id feel better going with two pumps, myself.> Will
it be difficult to plumb these Beckett skimmers to work properly with
one pump? <It may require a lot of tinkering with the ball valves to
get the right flow in there. Experimentation is just par for the
course!> Best Regards, Justin Kyllo <Hope I was of assistance to
you, Justin! Good luck! Regards, Scott F Pump
Ideas Thanks for the input, the more I think about it I think
that the MD55 is the better choice, by the time you add other Returns or
if you do, and then the manifold itself with multiple returns up top is
a lot of elbows and I bet eats up pressure fast. <That's exactly why
I chose that pump!> Anything over 8 feet and the MD55 is a better
choice easily, I'd bet 8 feet of pressure isn't very much all things
considered! Since you use this pump, I will sum up my other question a
lot, what do you drain with? I'll try an make that my last question for
awhile, instead I'll but your books and actually do all this! Lol Take
care, Mark <No problem Mark. Like I said, what works for me may not
work for you! I use two 1 1/2 inch standpipes feeding into my sump. If I
could do it all over again, I probably would have went with 2 two inch
standpipes. Feel free to contact us any time, but do enjoy getting
"lost" on the site- there's so much good information here! And don't
forget to talk to your fellow hobbyists, they are your truly best source
of information and feedback on "fishy stuff" ! Take care! Scott F.>
Pump for new tank question Hi Anthony, Hope you are well..
<same to you my friend> I have a question regarding a pump for my new
tank. You suggested either AMP master pumps( I have no idea what/where
to look for here) or Iwaki. I found an Iwaki that I thought would be
just right, <excellent... Iwakis are the best overall in my opinion>
it is called Iwaki MD 70RLT and is supposed to be 1500gph however the
shop that is selling it puts a ? as to if it is safe for normal
circulation as they say it is designed to work under pressure (i.e
feeding a filter canister or such like??) Do you know of this pump and
if it's suitable as a straight return pump or not? <Iwaki makes every
unit in their line for pressure or circulation (two different models for
every style). You can order this pump for circulation only if you like>
I also found a pump called MagDrive 1800 which guess what, does 1800 gph
and is a lot cheaper than the Iwaki which makes me wonder if it is
powerful enough even though it say's 1800gph, is this a suitable pump?
<sort of... and as the saying goes: good things are seldom cheap and
cheap things are seldom good. I won't be surprised if you have your
Iwaki 15 years from now still running... I have seen older. Yet, I will
be very surprised if you still have a mag drive pump 7 years down the
road. They are less durable by far... sealed motors, mag drives (not
direct shafts) and impart a lot of heat into the system (about 4 degrees
F). They are cheaper to buy, though, and do move a lot of water. They
are also usually quite economical to operate (electricity consumption).
You must weigh the factors that matter most to you> otherwise please
give me a clue... If I had a pump of 1500 to 1800 gph and enough
overflow holes across the back for say 2000 gph would this be o.k.?
<yes... very fine> Have a nice week-end! Jenny UK <best regards to
you as well, my friend. Anthony> Pump Selection Hello
fine friends, I am currently upgrading my system pump which is an
Eheim 1250. This is on a 30 gallon reef with sump. I'm going with an
Iwaki 20. Now this is the gray zone, which one should I get to use as my
main system pump and what is the difference, the 20RLT 0r the 20RLXT?
<I would get the RXLT. This is a non-pressure situation and the RXLT has
slightly more gph than the RLT.> Thank you for the light you can
shine on this subject, Paul <You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Iwaki pump 3/30/03 Hi, Have you heard of an Iwaki MD 30RXT? I
have not found anything on this pump on the net. <surprising... Iwaki
is one of the oldest and best pumps in the aquarium trade. Do a keyword
search of just the word "Iwaki" or "Iwaki water pump" if you like.
Perhaps the model number skewed your search> The reason I ask is that
an LFS have a used one for sale. Since I am not able to find
information, it leads me to believe this is an old pump, which is no
longer made? Do you know the GPH? Thanks, Nikki <do browse the
information at the manufacturer's site:
http://www.iwakiwalchem.com/ very fine pumps. I consider them to
be the best around without spending crazy money. Best of luck, Anthony>
Iwaki Pump recommendations/commentary Anthony There are more
sumps and pumps being put in the basement and pumping water to the next
floor, and many folks wonder what pump to be used? If one is using a 180
gal reef tank a Iwaki MD100 is the pump to be used. With a 12 ft head
you get 1920 gal per hour,14 head 1800 gal per hour... using an 11/4 pvc
pipe on the out put of the pump and 1 1/2" return . For more water
movement used a Iwaki md 40 in a close loop you can get 700 gal per
hour, put two 3/4 outlets at the front of the tank. this pump can be put
in basement with the md 100. Iwakis pumps are the best to used you can
believe their pump specifications, many other pumps are in a gray zone
for valid specs. RGibson YOU CAN PAY LESS &YOU CAN GET LESS
<Ralph... thank kindly, my friend. I am in agreement that Iwakis are
time tested and true. I have sworn by them for fifteen years and am not
likely to stray anytime soon. We've seen too many new pumps come and go
like so many flashes in a pan. Best regards, Anthony Calfo>
Iwaki Pumps Hi: New to the hobby. I am setting up a 90 reef
and saw an Iwaki 30rlxt pump on eBay. Plan to have external sump with
red sea Berlin skimmer. Would this pump be OK. I am concerned because
it says not for pressure applications. I don't think my plans
constitute this but I wanted to be sure before I bid. I should not
have more than 4 ft. of head pressure. Thanks, Rob C. <Head over
to our sponsor pages and research the ratings and how that applies. They
all have flow rate charts to help you decide this. A return line with
an attached skimmer *may* be a pressure application. You need to figure
head height, needed flow rate, etc. to size pumps. Craig>
Moving Up! (Pt. 2> Well Scott, thanks so much for the quick
reply. Your "two cents" is exactly what I was hoping to get. <Glad
that you found it helpful! I'd give you four cents, but I'm out of
change.. LOL> I imagined that the fish you spoke of, blennies,
gobies, cardinals, and the fairy wrasses would be the suggestion, which
is what I was looking to do. A few small fish will help fill out the
tank just perfectly. <Yep, and there are a LOT of cool choices in
these families! You'll really have fun selecting, researching, and
keeping them!> But, unfortunately you did "freak" me out about the
Iwaki pump noise!!! <Damn- sorry about that...But I did want to
give you my honest impression of the pump. I really, really love Iwakis,
and absolutely swear by them for their reliability, quality and
durability, but I don't think that they are as quiet as some other
brands out there. However, I continue to use them and recommend them to
others for the reasons cited above.> I am hoping that since you had
the RLT model for pressure applications, that maybe my RLXT will be
less loud....I am crossing my fingers! <Good point, and I'm honestly
not sure about that...Again remember that "quiet" is a relative term, as
I mentioned before, so it may not be bad at all. I define "quiet" in
pump terms as "absence of almost all sound" (yeah, I have a pretty
demanding definition!) except the water. There are a number of other
pumps out there that fit this definition, but they have other "trade
offs" which require consideration, such as introduction of additional
heat, greater electrical consumption, lower reliability, etc.> Its
funny why your larger pump is quieter than the smaller one...go
figure. <I have been told by a number of people "in the know" that
the fan is the major noise producer in the MD40...And, yes- the MD55 is
much, much more quiet than the MD40...In fact, it approaches my
definition of "quiet!"> The tank is in the living room so a little
noise is not a problem, but hopefully when we have guests, we don't
have to try and talk over the noise! So lets just say it is too noisy,
what would you do? Diff. Iwaki model? <There are a lot of different
noise reduction techniques that you can use, including acoustically
insulating the stand, using mouse pads, etc, etc...lots of postings on
these techniques throughout the internet...And, yes- I will ultimately
switch to a different Iwaki model to replace my MD40 (probably an MD55)
when it dies- in about 10 years (yep- THAT's reliability!)...>
Smaller perhaps, although a loss of flow is not the best solution.
<Try the MD40's first- please! If you are inclined to change, though,
try the MD55; you can always control the higher flow rate through ball
valves....Remember, also that the MD55 uses 1" fittings, not 3/4" like
the MD40 does....> Don't think I want a submersible pump, seems like
it will generate too much heat. Another brand perhaps, but don't
want to sacrifice quality. Yes, it's another "two cents" question, but
then that is what they pay you for...oh yeah, you don't get paid for
this, well dammit, you guys and gals should! <Thanks for the kind
thoughts! And, really- do try the MD40s first...They may be just fine. I
guess that is the good and bad of relaying my experiences, huh? Other
people may have totally different viewpoints on this. I'd hate to see
you spend more money on something that's not needed...Remember, what
works for me may be insane for you! As far as being "paid" for this- the
satisfaction that I get from helping a fellow hobbyist avoid a mistake
that I've made is pretty darn good "compensation", in my opinion! Have
fun with your system, and good luck! Regards, Scott F> Thanks again,
you reply was MUCH appreciated. Paul The Sound of Silence...
Ok Scott, if you recall from my previous email, we were talking about
the MD40RLXT and that it might be a bit noisy....Well I was finally was
able to hook them up and get them running. Yikes, it sounds like an old
fridge running! It is tolerable, to me at least, but since I have 2 of
them, my wife says NO! <Yep- she doesn't have the "reef gene", huh?
LOL> She even said do whatever it takes to replace them, even if
it costs $1000. <Well, with that budget, you could....> So you can
imagine she does not care for the noise. I opted to keep one of them
for the closed loop, and I ordered a Velocity T4. Hopefully it doesn't
heat up my 90G tank too much, but I guess I will find out. They are
supposed to be really quiet, so I guess it is worth it. <They are
really, really quiet pumps. They will definitely make a huge difference,
sound wise. I am a big an of Custom Sea Life Products. Obviously, you
are aware that the outlets are hose barb instead of MPT/FPT, so keep
this in mind when planning your plumbing hook ups. Some aquarists report
that it requires a little effort to prime the pumps after routine
maintenance or power failures...> Time for eBay for the old Iwaki,
what a shame, its only hours old. Maybe I should keep it as a spare, a
rather expensive one at that. <My thoughts exactly....It's a helluva
great pump to have for a backup!> The strange thing with the velocity
pump is that the T4 has 1 inch barb fittings, and the lower flow T3 has
MPT fittings? I would of thought it would be the other way
around. Anyways, this makes it more difficult for me to fit the new
pump in. I have to do some cutting now. < Funny that I was thinking
of this just a few lines ago...LOL> I wonder if flex PV can go onto a
barb fitting? Now I am rambling. <Should work fine...You may have to
play with it for a bit, but it will work...> Take care. Paul <You,
too- Paul! I'm sure that your new pumps will help ensure "domestic
tranquility" and do a good job for the tank! Good luck! Regards, Scott
F> - Pump Selection - Hi guys hope everyone is doing
well, i have a return pump question I am currently using Iwaki 30rlxt
want 2 upgrade to 40rlxt but the watt consumption of Iwaki is high so
I'm also considering Gen X Mak IV and that's only 55 watts @ 5 ft head
pressure. Is Gen X comparable to Iwaki, I have used Iwaki for awhile
but like I said the high power consumptions. <I think the Gen-X might be
a little louder, but am pretty sure they have similar specifications
otherwise - except for the power consumption as you mentioned.>
Thanks in advance for the help, Rommel <Cheers, J -- > -
Pump Question - Hello Crew, <Good morning, JasonC here...>
I was wondering if anyone has an experience with the Iwaki MD40RLXT
pumps? <Yes.> I bought two for my 90 gallon reef, sump return and closed
loop circulation. I wanted to know if they were very loud.
<Compared to what? They aren't silent.> I am still in the process
of setting up this tank so I won't know for a little bit, but my wife
sees the size of the pumps and starts imagining jet engines!
<They're not that bad.> I read that they may be a bit noisy since
they have fans on them ( unlike the smaller MD30RLXT ). They are under
the tank in a stand so its not like they are out in the open, but will
they be any louder than the 2 4" muffin fans used to cool the canopy?
<I'd say they would be "noticeable" but not louder than a pair of muffin
fans; perhaps about the same.> Those are the noisiest things on my
existing tank now. It is in a living room so it doesn't have to be
silent, but I would like to be able to have conversations in that room
from time to time. <That shouldn't be a problem.> Thank for you time.
Paul <Cheers, J -- > Suggestion on Iwaki Pump Hi Bob,
how are you? <He is probably doing marvelous. He is diving in
Indonesia right now. Steven Pro in his stead.> I have a 75 gallon
Oceanic Reef-Ready tank that I am setting up. This is my first tank and
I want to do things right. <If you are new to saltwater, might I
suggest Mike Paletta's "The New Marine Aquarium" and Bob Fenner's "The
Conscientious Marine Aquarist." Both are excellent.> Rumor has it
that my overflow is rated at around 750 gph. All the return will run is
the return. I will have approximately 4 feet of head. Can I get away
with the 40RLT? <That model is rated for 750 gph at 4 feet of head,
which should be fine.> If not what would you suggest? Best regards,
Mike <Have a nice night. -Steven Pro> Pumps (again)
Hello WWM crew! <Cheers Brad! Anthony> I am in need of an external
return pump from my sump to my 75Ga. reef tank. I have been researching
various pumps and am more confused now than before I started
researching. <thanks to the shameless and sometimes misleading (and
other times outright fibbing) of marketing ga-roos> I initially
wanted to buy an Iwaki. <my fave, by far.. more below and in past
FAQs> Iwaki's seem to be a name that is everywhere. <they have
been around for a VERY long time and have had an impeccable reputation
all along.. not an easy thing to do. The only thing that anyone can
complain about is that you have to pay for their quality. No one debates
that they are very durable/long loved> Yet I hear they run very hot
and are not very energy efficient and are a tad noisy. <The American
made ones just a tad and relative to what? Not so to most other direct
drive units. But all DD units yes relative to MAG drives (at the expense
of head)> The Japanese vs. American Iwaki's have all the same
specs/parts yet the Japanese versions are almost twice the cost. Makes
me leery of any company that would do this. <not at all my
understanding or experience with the brand for over ten years...
literally a few thousand dollars spent on these pumps and even more
wasted on other brands> I am looking into the CSL Velocity T3
(140watt). It would produce about slightly less 10 times tank volume
turn-over rate. Is this a good brand? It sports a 2 year no-fault
warranty. Nice. Heat transfer? <not familiar with the brand. The flow
is somewhat irrelevant if your overflows like most folks can't take as
much as they should (you'll want the equivalent of 5+ 1" drains for a
reef tank on a 75 (or 2-2 1/2" inch, etc)> Little Giant 3-MDQX-SC
would turn over a little more than 10x tank volume but I have heard
little about this pump except that it also runs hot. <I wish I could
say something nice about these pumps other than they are inexpensive and
you get what you pay for. If your goals before upgrading or moving on
are short-term, perhaps a LG will be OK> So many choices out there.
<too many... and indeed many good ones included> I just want a good,
long lasting high, quality pump that will be easily plumbed from my
sump into my 75Ga Oceanic Reef Ready tank. I would like it to have a
water turn over rate of about 10 times per hour and not suck
electricity like a mad man. <without the electricity issue, I have a
distinct preference for Japanese Iwakis... seen more than a few last
over ten years and silent. A big diff from the American version and most
other DD units. If electricity is your primary concern... look only at
magnetic drive units at the expense of some head (pressure) and heat
transfer for most> I would really like to put this issue to bed and
move on but I am get more confused at every turn. Zimmy <Then pick a
Supreme Mag-drive unit for the 5 year plan and with consideration for
power consumption. Else, A Japanese Iwaki will not fail you in the long
view. Anthony> Iwaki pump Hello Bob. (or any of his
little helpers.) <But I look taller in movies... doesn't that count
for something? Anthony> Almost everyone I asked said Iwaki's are
indeed a good choice including Mr. Calfo. Thanks for your opinion kind
sir. <very welcome> Now should I buy a pressure rated pump or
just their standard pump. <probably pressure rated if it is to be
used as a return pump> Should I get the American or Japanese
version? <Japanese if you are willing to spend the extra for a
longer lasting pump> What size would be sufficient for my 75ga. tank
with a straight return from the sump to the tank. (No UV, canister
filter or anything else between sump and tank) <that you have to
figure on your own a bit pending the inhabitants needs. FOWLR, reef, if
reef, what are the inverts needs, etc. But the ballpark would be 800 GPH
minimum... with perhaps 1500 gph max (if your overflow can handle it and
you are trying to reduce the amount of extra power heads in your tank. I
hope you have the equivalent of at least 4-1" overflow holes drilled I
the display. Otherwise you might be restricted to a smaller pump and
having extra PH in the main tank> After I buy the pump, I have but to
plumb everything and I am ready for action. Man these external pumps are
costly! I only hope they last a few good years. <I've seen more than
a few go way over 10 years old!> Zimmy <kindly, Anthony>
Re: Question on Water Pumps Thank you so much for you quick
reply. Not the answer I wanted, but better to know now... The Eheim was
my first choice (I had read you opinion), however, I have had difficulty
finding any in stock at the few places I found who carry them. <A
sponsor, custom aquatic (.com) now carries these> I was also
considering a little more flow than what Eheim offers. Would a Velocity
T3 or an Iwaki be a good substitute? Again, thank you for your help
and guidance. <Hmm, a few factors to consider here... what sort of
pressure and what amount of volume are you using this pump for? If you
don't need that much of the former, and moderate (the Eheims come in
three sizes in the West), I would go with the Eheim still... much less
electrical consumption, much less heat (especially compared with the
Iwaki)... and better service factor...> Hoping I won't have to bother
you too much more, Hank Sauer <Never a bother my friend. Thank you
for helping me be more clear, complete. Bob Fenner>
Re:
Question on Water Pumps That had to be the fastest reply ever...
I feel like I should be paying you for the wonderful service you
provide. <You are my friend. With your intelligent, caring input>
I already own one of your books, I think I need to buy more if you have
them out! I am a believer in supporting those who support me. <A
worthy attitude> I will use this pump as a return from my sump into a
90 gal tank, a little under five feet of head. The tank is FOWLR, I was
aiming to increase turnover to around 7 times per hour... Is this
overkill? <Hmm, no> As always, I appreciate your time, knowledge,
and willingness to share both. I feel like we should all be
calling you Yoda LOL! <I am shaped somewhat like this fanciful
character... and today feel about as old! Bob Fenner> Hank Sauer
Re: Question on Water Pumps If you don't mind, one last question
down this line, and I'll let you enjoy your Sunday. I don't believe the
turnover on the Eheim would be enough for my needs, based on our prior
discussion, and with your comment on the heat of the Iwaki, I'm leaning
towards the Velocity T3. Would this be a good choice for me? <Yes,
more actual flow> I calculate 12 gallons per minute at 5ft to be 700+
gallon per hour.... our about 8 turns per hour on my 90 gal tank...
<About this, yes> After this one I'll "use the force" for the rest of
the day! As ever, Thank you for your help and friendship, both are
highly valued. Hank Sauer <And yours, Bob Fenner>
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