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FAQs on Marine Algae and Their Control 12
Related Articles: Avoiding
Algae Problems in Marine System,
Algae Control, Marine
Maintenance, Marine Scavengers, Snails,
Hermit Crabs,
Mithrax/Emerald
Green Crabs, Sea Urchins, Blennies,
Algae Filters, Ctenochaetus/Bristle
Mouth Tangs, Zebrasoma/Sailfin Tangs, Skimmers,
Skimmer Selection, Marine
Algae, Coralline
Algae, Green Algae, Brown
Algae, Blue-Green
"Algae"/(Cyanobacteria), Diatoms,
Brown Algae,
Related FAQs: Marine Algae Control FAQs 1,
Marine Algae Control 2, Marine
Algae Control 3, Marine Algae Control 4,
Marine Algae Control 5, Marine
Algae Control 6, Marine Algae Control 7,
Marine Algae Control 8, Marine
Algae Control 9,
Marine
Algae Control 10,
Marine Algae Control 11,
Marine Algae Control 13,
Marine Algae Control 14,
Marine Algae Control 15, &
Marine Algicide Use, Nutrient
Limitation, Marine Algae Eaters, Culturing
Macro-Algae; Controlling: BGA/Cyano,
Red/Encrusting Algae, Green
Algae, Brown/Diatom Algae, Phosphate,
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Having other nutrient using, photosynthetic life
present helps... Genus Hydnophora
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Aquarium Cleaning
Magnets...Which Ones Are Safe To Leave In The Tank? – 08/03/07
I have been looking into magnetic cleaners for cleaning everyday tank build
up.
<<Wonderful devices>>
Of course I checked with/through your wonderful web pages first.
<<And...?>>
A little concern.
<<Oh?>>
You mentioned in one of the FAQ's that there are some magnets that shouldn't be
taken out.
". . .Most aquarium magnets are safe for leaving in a system... but not all. I
would pull these out when not in use... Please have your brother contact us re
water chemistry checking, use of Polyfilter... as moves to correct the
situation. Bob Fenner>"
I have felt to use it every day or at least every other, it would be more
convenient to leave it in.
<<Indeed, and there are some brands that are very safe/designed for such
use...is what I use. Please take a look at the “Algae Free” and “Magnavore”
brands. I have a pair of Algae Free Tiger Shark Float magnets that have been in
my tank for “years”>>
Somewhere else it was mentioned that not all magnets are made out of steel.
<<Tis true>>
So steel magnets are not good right? Or wrong?
<<Steel magnets can be fine as long as they are “sealed” from exposure to the
water. Keep in mind that virtually all “submersible” pumps contain metals>>
Can you please tell me what to look for as far as what they are made of, or
maybe even brands that you know of that are good or which are hazardous to the
corals?
<<Any of the cleaning magnets from the two brands mentioned will serve well.
They are a little pricier than most others, but... There are other brands that
are/can be safe as well, but these two brands are the best in all aspects, in my
opinion>>
Thank you as always for your never ending help.
Trisha
<<Always a pleasure to assist. EricR>>
Dinoflagellates/tank breakdown –
07/25/07
Good afternoon, <Hey!> I've been checking around your website (again) and
can't seem to find the right answer I need. I'm currently breaking down my tank
due to an outbreak of what I think may be a dinoflagellate outbreak. It formed a
smothering layer of light brown slimy looking goo over everything-rock coral,
equipment. I've had an ongoing problem with some hair algae when bam (sorry
Emeril), this stuff took over. Due to the hair algae problem, I decided to break
down the tank. Finally to my questions. I've removed and scrubbed the live rock
that had no coral/polyps/etc still attached and have started to recure it-is it
feasible that it will still be 'live' after all that has happened? <Did you let
the rocks dry out? If they stayed wet you should have kept most of the bacteria
that is in the "live" rock. Truthfully, even if it did dry somewhat out it still
probably has the majority of the bacteria unless it was left out for a sustained
period of time.> The sand substrate has a hard 'crust' where the slim has
grown-is it worth trying to save some of the lower levels or start over with
fresh? <You should be able to save all of it. If you can stir the top and suck
the nasty stuff out. But your tank will look sorta icky.> I still have a few
pieces left in the tank that are 1/4 to 2/3 covered with green star polyps and 1
with a toadstool that still has the slim/goo on them, but they continue to
extend themselves daily-any ideas as to how to clean them up and isolate them to
ensure the goo is gone? <Personally, I use a turkey baster and blast all that
stuff off of them.> Last, any recommendations as to considering a total teardown
to a bare tank is needed I hope not)? Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated-Steve. <Steve, I would not tear the tank down unless I absolutely
had to but you do need to get it cleaned out. I personally use a turkey baster
to suck stuff out, stir stuff up and blast the rocks off that need to be
blasted. I have worked on peoples tanks where I have actually pulled every rock
out and scrubbed them off with a never used toothbrush to clean all the cracks
and crevices off. One thing to note is that you should maybe consider getting
some more current in your tank because I have found that with more movement in
the tank, especially the lower levels you don't get the hair algae or the Dinos
nearly as bad. A couple of basics here. Something is feeding the bad stuff so
you might watch and cut down on your levels of feeding. You might also want to
look some more in the WetWebMedia base for information about Calcium and
alkalinity and its effects on Dinos. Good luck, MacL>
Algae, SW, poor English, not just
using WWM - 7/23/07
hello
<Your English...>
wet web crew. thanks for the many helpful articles. I attached this
picture of my tank. I have some brown algae that I assume is
Cyanobacteria, but i am not sure. please verify for me if you can. i
scraped the gravel around yesterday, but you can see it on some of the
substrate and on the live rock. if i turn the gravel over it comes back
the very next day.
here are some specifics.
FOWLR
ph 8.4
nitrate 0
nitrite 0
ammonia 0
dKH 8
calcium 430
phosphate 0
i have a cascade 1200 canister filter cleaned regularly. Coralife power
compacts 2x65. 2 actinic. aqua c remora skimmer. please help.
<Please... don't write to us until you proof your message/run it through
spelling and grammar checkers... Your system IS indeed out of balance,
you DO have BGA... and you DID NOT have to write us to find what you
need to know already archived on the site: READ here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/maintenance/index.htm
SCROLL down to the green tray on Algae. RMF> |
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Re: Brown Algae Issues.
The Brown Algae Blues (Cont'd.) –
07/18/07
Thanks for the response.
<You're welcome!>
I went and bought the test kits, and no signs of fuel for the algae
blooms.
<A good start, and a good investment...I assume that means that you have
negligible phosphate, nitrate, a high pH and high alkalinity, right?>
As far as food goes, we only feed flake food, and a quantity that can be
consumed immediately once a day. Unfortunately,
I don't have a sump filtration system, everything is hang on. I have a
AquaC Remora skimmer, Millennium 2000 hang-on filter, and 3 power heads
in the tank. Would changing 75% of the water help any?
<Water changes with quality source water are always good. However, these
kinds of problems should be corrected with consistency over time.
Regular, modest water changes will do the trick. No need for sudden,
massive moves. Get on a water change schedule that you can handle and
stay with it. Try also to increase the flow in your system to increase
oxygenation and maintain a high, stable pH.>
Also, I've added 3 pictures showing you what I was describing, in case
the verbiage I used wasn't adequate. This was 3 days after a cleaning.
Jim
<Well, Jim- I really think that you're on the right track. Continued
good husbandry (especially the water changes and replacing/cleaning your
mechanical filtration media regularly), time and your patience will do
the trick. Remember the other things that we touched on in our previous
correspondence, and stay at it! You can do it! Regards, Scott F.> |
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Hair algae help
7/13/07
Hi Crew,
I have been trying to get rid of my incessant hair algae for months... help!
Here's my info: 90g + 30g sump, ~500gph return, ~1500gph closed loop on a 7
outlet manifold, 20000K MH lights. I have 10 small community fish: 5 blue-green
Chromises, two ocellaris, one hogfish, one purple Pseudochromis, one lawnmower
blenny. Bunch of soft corals and LPS, as well.
I change water with TM salt every 1-2 weeks, 5-10 gal.
<Bigger water changes might help. Try 10-20g every two weeks for awhile.>
My relevant parameters:
Sal 1.0245
pH 8.2
KH 9.8
NO3 0mg/L
Ca 400ppm
PO4 0mg/L
Mg 1195 mg/L
Any suggestions would be helpful. I keep siphoning this stuff out, and it keeps
growing and growing.
<If you don't have a protein skimmer, I'd suggest getting one (that and doing
bigger water changes). In the mean time, if it's growing on the glass you can
scrap it off with a razor. If you're looking for a fish to eat it, one of the
Bristletooth tangs might do the trick. However, once it eats all the algae in
your tank, you'll have to take care to feed it well. They need a lot of algae
and vegetable matter to survive.>
Thanks,
Jason
<De nada,
Sara M.>
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Algae Issues - Need Help! – 07/08/07
Hello WetWebMedia Crew,
<Hello Suresh, Mich here.>
I have a 90G Reef Tank. My setup as below:
90G Reef
440W VHO
Phosban Reactor
Protein Skimmer
Live Stock
2 yellow wrasse
1 yellow tang
1 purple tang
1 maroon clown
1 scooter blenny
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 copperband butterfly
1 PJ cardinal
<I hope this is your final stocking plan.>
Tank Parameters are as below.
Temp - 77 degrees
0 - ammonia
0 - nitrate/nitrite
0 - phosphate
<Very good.>
I use following chemicals regularly
B-Ionic Calcium and Alkalinity - 30ml
Reef Iodide - 10ml every other day.
<Do you test your levels? You should...>
DT - twice a week
<OK.>
Recently I had an outbreak of following algae in my tank. It is taking over my
rocks. I am not sure if it is diatom or hair algae. It looks brown but like
thick hair??.
<Many possibilities.>
I have included some pictures too.
<I sort of see.>
Could you kindly help me identify this algae and especially to address this
issue please?
<I'm sorry but I cannot ID the algae from the provided photos. I can help you
hopefully address the issue. You may want to consider adding a refugium and
macro algae, increasing the frequency/volume of you water changes, Hopefully you
are using RO/DI water. Would be wise to check your source water for TDS.
More here and related links in blue:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nutrientcontrol.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/refugium.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/maralgae.htm >
Thank you so much.
<You are most welcome! Mich>
Regards,
Suresh |
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Algae Issues - Need
Help! 7/8/07
Recently I had an outbreak of following algae in my tank. It is
taking over my rocks. I am not sure if it is diatom or hair algae. It
looks brown but like thick bush of hair??
<The pictures are really blurry, but I think it's some kind of hair
algae. It might be collecting sediment or growing other types of algae
and/or cyano/diatoms on it too. But again, I can't make out much of
anything in the photos.
In any case, you'll want to lower your nutrients somehow. Do you run a
protein skimmer? How often do you do water changes? More skimming and
more frequent water changes should help.
If you're looking for stuff that eats this, I've seen emerald crabs eat
a variety of different kinds of filamentous algae. But there's no
guarantee they'll eat what you have or eat most of it.>
I have included some pictures too.
Could you kindly help me address this issue please?
<I don't have quite enough information about your tank to give you
really specific advice. All I can tell you is that these types of algae
problems are brought on by an excess of nutrients. You can battle this a
number of ways; with skimming, siphoning of debris, water changes, etc.>
Thank you so much.
Regards,
Suresh
<De nada and good luck :-)
Sara M.> |
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Bubbles...
Tiny Bubbles, Nuisance Algae, Make Me Unhappy 7/8/07
Hello WetWeb,
<Hi Mike, Mich here.>
I have not been able to figure out what problem I have.
<Looks like excess nutrients to me!>
There is some algae growing on my live rock which I thought was
Cyanobacteria but I'm second-guessing this. I don't think Cyanobacteria
has tiny bubbles that grow on top if it.
<It can, but could also be Diatoms or Dinoflagellates....some of the
largest oxygen producers on the planet!>
I'm sure it's not Ventricaria ventricosa.
<You are correct here.>
These bubbles grow very quickly after I remove them (2days) and they
seem to constantly become loose and float the surface. I'm going crazy
trying to figure out what this is.
<The bubbles are likely O2.>
I will attach some very crappy pictures but it's the best I can do with
this camera.
<Hee! Your description, not mine... but I won't argue! Perhaps check for
a macro setting (The symbol usually looks like a flower.) on your camera
for future close up shots.>
Let me know what other info you need and I will try my best to provide
it.
<You should check you nitrates, phosphates and silicate levels in your
tank. There is likely an excess of nutrients. You may also want to check
the TDS of your source water, which is hopefully RO/DI. May also want to
consider a refugium with Macro algae if you don't already have one. More
here and related links in blue:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nutrientcontrol.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/refugium.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/maralgae.htm >
Thanks for the help
<Welcome!>
Mike |
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Algae Issues - Need Help!
– 07/07/07
Hellow WetWebMedia Crew,
I have a 90G Reef Tank. My setup as below.
90G Reef
440W VHO
Phosban Reactor
Protein Skimmer
Live Stock
2 yellow wrasse
1 yellow tang
1 purple tang
1 maroon clown
1 scooter blenny
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 copperband butterfly
1 PJ cardinal
I use following chemicals regularly
B-Ionic Calcium and Alkalinity - 30ml
Reef Iodide - 10ml every other day.
<no need to add the iodide>
Recently I had an outbreak of following algae in my tank. It is taking over my
rocks. I am not sure if it is diatom or hair algae. It looks brown but like
thick bush of hair??.
I have included some pictures too.
<Would you kindly try sending the pictures again? We didn't get any attachments
with this email. Thank you.
Sara M.>
Could you kindly help me address this issue please?
Thank you so much.
Regards,
Suresh
Phormidium... BGA et al. "algal" woes
7/7/07
Dear Crew,
Without going into a lot of tank details, I'm perplexed with algae (as is
everyone). I think I've gotten hair algae under control. Now I believe I have
Phormidium growing. I consulted J. Sprung's Algae, to read that this will take
over in nutrient poor water and that Derbesia and Phormidium have inverse
relationships. How do you arrive at the happy medium?
Jeff
<Mmm... either through nutrient limitation... though very hard to do with such
established, or in settings with established BGA/Cyanobacteria and Greens as
these... OR through prevention, competition... some possible predation... Please
read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/maintenance/index.htm
Peruse the bright yellow tray (N2 wastes)... and the lower dark green Algae ones
contents. Bob Fenner>
Nutrient Control= Algae Control - 06/27/07
Hi There,
<Hey! Scott F. in tonight!>
Love your site. I've been using it since I've started my 46 gallon marine
aquarium 3 years ago. I searched all the algae related issues, but I didn't see
situations that I considered the same as mine. I perform a 10% water change
every week and haven't changed my regimen since I've owned it.
<I love it when hobbyists get habitual about water changes- great practice!>
However, for the past 3 months, I've had this terrible brown algae problem. It
is extremely hair-like in nature, which isn't unusual according to the articles
I've read. The part that gets me is that the day after I perform a tank
cleaning, the hair algae is growing back quickly. To get rid of it, I scrub off
any surfaces that possess it, including the 8 lb live rock that I have in there.
Some of the artificial pieces are bleached each week to remove all the growth.
By the time the week ends, my tank is completely brown again and the hair algae
is about 1/4" in length.
<Ahh, relatively common, yet exasperating problem.>
About 4 months ago, I changed my light fixture to a dual fixture equipped with a
marine Glo bulb to go along with the Aqua Glo bulb. All the pink growth that I
had turned white (from what I could gather it was related to light shock), and
it's finally starting to turn pink again. How do I stop the algae? Should I be
testing for something else?
<Well, the key to control of virtually any algae is nutrient control. There are
a lot of things that you can do, as we'll see in a minute. I would also test for
substances like phosphate or silicate, both of which are major contributors to
nuisance algae blooms.>
I only have a Clownfish, Royal Gramma, and Cleaner Shrimp in there. My numbers
I've tested for are nitrate - 0, ammonia - 0, ph - 8.0, and nitrite - 0. And my
water temp is 80 degrees.
Any ideas?
Jim
<Well, Jim, there are lots of possibilities. The water parameters that you
mention seem good, but there is something in there that is fueling these blooms.
Likely suspects are the aforementioned phosphates and silicates. Start by
investigating your source water. Most tap water sources do contain phosphates,
and in some instances, silicates. If you don't already- utilize a reverse
osmosis/deionization system to purify your tap water before you mix it with
salt. Remember, if your source water contains these "algae fuels", every time
you faithfully execute your water changes, you're re-fueling the nuisance algae
bloom. Next, do utilize some form of chemical filtration media in your system,
such as activated carbon, Poly Filter, or the like, and replace it regularly.
Also, be sure to feed carefully, not allowing excesses of food, or packing
juices from frozen foods to enter the tank...These juices are absolute "rocket
fuel" for algae blooms. Carefully rinse food before feeding, and feed without
letting these juices enter the display aquarium. Another thought would be to
grow and harvest some "competitive" macroalgae, such as Chaetomorpha, in your
system's sump, which will help compete against the nuisance algae for available
nutrients. Maintain a steady, high pH and consistent alkalinity. Keep water
movement vigorous within the aquarium. Attention to these details, along with
your continued good husbandry habits, will ensure that you'll defeat this
nuisance algae invasion. Good luck in your fight! Regards, Scott F.>
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