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Columbian Cat Shark, comp., sys. 6/3/08 I have bought
three Columbian Cat Sharks from my LFS. They were about 3 inches (2
weeks ago). I have put them in my 65 gal Reef Aquarium. Tanks mates are
2 common clowns and a six lined Wrasse which I think are going to be on
the menu in a few months, but I have another marine aquarium they can be
moved to. <Interesting set up. The Shedd Aquarium in Chicago used to
keep some species of Sea Catfish (I think Ariopsis felis) in a tank that
was essentially a giant reef tank in the Rotunda. Sea Catfish look *a
lot* like small sharks, and it was quite something to watch them cruise
that tank.> So far they seem fine with the soft corals and clean up
crew, but when they get larger which is apparently going to be sooner
rather than later given their current growth rate are they likely to eat
the clean up crew as well, hermit crabs, turbo snails, emerald crab and
common urchin? <More than just "likely", it's probable! These
catfish are completely opportunistic predators, and a significant amount
of their diet consists of crustaceans of various times.> The tank is
furnished with macro algae, live rock, bubble tip anemone, devil finger
coral, mushrooms, xiena and yellow star polyps (sorry about spelling?)
These fish will be the priority in the tank and I wanted to create a
aquarium matching there natural habitat so what should I used to create
the biotype? <Sea Catfish are estuary/inshore water animals. You
find them in harbours, around rocky reefs (oysters beds for example),
mangroves, sandy estuaries, and so on. So while they're not really picky
animals, they have a preference for shallow water habitats where they
stick close to the substrate. Their whiskers, electric sense, and
(apparently) echolocation sense all help them to find food in turbid
waters where other predatory fish would be at a disadvantage. In other
words: classic catfish habitat! A perfect tank for them would have some
big rocks (with sessile invertebrates if you wanted) and caves, an open
sandy area, and a HECK of a strong water current. Not too much light if
possible; or at least concentrate the light on the parts of the tank
where the corals are, and leave some part of the tank shady. That said,
they're wonderfully adaptable fish, and provided they have swimming
space and a few friends of their own species, they aren't demanding.
They mix well with most marine fish, though I've found they don't get
along with Triggerfish -- triggers use clicking sounds as threats, so
misunderstand the clicking noises Sea Catfish employ when communicating.
The triggers attack the cats, the cats start clicking because they're
frightened, and the trigger gets even more irate. As you can imagine,
this isn't what you want, because both species are well armed and able
to dish out serious damage. Triggers have whopping great bite, while Sea
Catfish have an anti-coagulant bite (causes serious bleeding) plus
venomous spines.> Thanks <You're welcome, Neale.>
Survival chances. Ariids and Balas? – 06/15/07 Hello! <Hail
and well met.> I'm writing in regards to my 2 Colombian Sharks (about
2 inches long, maybe less). Well, the two that are left. (One died this
morning.) I've done a lot of research lately and feel that these little
guys are doomed. <I hope not! Among my very favourite fishes. A bit
worried about doing research on fish *after* buying them, but I'll let
that pass for now.> Currently, they live in a 55 gallon tank with 2
Bala shark. <Wronger than a wrong thing on the wrongest day of the
year. Bala sharks are freshwater fish, Colombian sharks brackish water
fish. These two species cannot be kept together for any length of time.>
We're using the filter pump that came with aquarium. (It's a PetSmart
aquarium kit). I don't think the filter is enough. <Possible. A
ball-park figure for fishes this size would be 5-6 times the volume of
the tank in turnover per hour. Perhaps a bit more if you can, because
Colombian Sharks especially love strong water current. In static water
they tend to end up treading water close to the filter pump.> We plan
to add a under gravel filter. <UG filters can be an excellent choice
in brackish water tanks. Set one up as per a marine aquarium, with a
filter plate, crushed coral, gravel tidy, and then coral sand on top.
Use two powerheads, one at each end of the tank. This'll generate lots
of water movement as well as keeping the pH high and the hardness level
appropriate to the fish. On the downside, the Bala sharks will hate such
water conditions, but they're going to hate the salt even more...>
After reading your FAQs, I learned that they are saltwater fish. <Not
really saltwater fish. Hexanematichthys seemanni is a true estuary
dweller, and adults as well as juveniles swim up and down estuaries far
into freshwater but rarely any distance out to see. So while they do
very well in saltwater tanks, they certainly don't need saltwater
conditions. 50% seawater, or SG 1.010 is fine. High pH and hardness, and
especially lots of water current, seem to be more critical.> I
thought they were just brackish water fish. <They are.> I'm glad
to know this because my husband disliked the idea of doing just a
brackish water tank for these guys. Although, he really likes these
fish. <As does everyone who keeps them. They look like sharks, but
don't get too big (30 cm is typical), and are as gentle as kittens
(except to anything they can eat, of course).> Here's my issue. I
believe that I can not get anything bigger then a 55 gallon tank for
them any time soon. <That's fine for now. Growth is fairly rapid for
the first year, when they'll get to about 20 cm, but after that, growth
slows down quite a bit. But long term, yes, you may have a problem.
Realistically though, rehoming these fish shouldn't be hard. Big adults
are always in demand for additions to jumbo brackish tanks or fish-only
marine aquaria.> I live in a trailer home. I just don't think the
floor with support a 100 gallon tank. It might support another 55 gallon
tank at the other end. It may be half a year before I can afford another
55 gallon tank. Do these guys stand a chance of surviving that long with
two Balas in a freshwater tank? <Difficult to say. Their tolerance of
freshwater is very high, and specimens 10 cm plus can survive in it
quite well, assuming the pH and hardness are high. I've even seen fully
grown adults in freshwater tanks. They weren't happy, but they were
alive. I wouldn't recommend keeping them in freshwater though. For one
thing, you'll find they become increasingly neurotic, seemingly looking
for a way out so they can swim "downstream" to the estuary.> If I do
manage to get them into another 55 gallon tank and make it brackish
water, how long do you think I can keep them in such living conditions?
<Forever. They do fine in seawater, but do just as well in very hard, pH
8.0 brackish water at SG 1.010.> I plan to purchase a real house
(eventually) and do a saltwater tank. This may take a few years and I
have no idea if these guys will survive until then. If they do, will
they get along with blue tangs and clown fish? (These are the kind of
saltwater fish I /think/ I want) <I've kept Colombian Sharks in
saltwater tanks with things like Panther groupers and Domino damselfish
without problems. Anything too big to be swallowed whole will be ignored
by them. Pufferfish work very well. The only problems I had were with
Triggerfish, which hated the clicking sound these catfish make (the
trigger attacked the cats, the cats clicked in distress, and trigger
attacked even more aggressively).> What size tank would you recommend
for a beginner in saltwater tanks? I know the bigger the better. I
suspect that even 100 gallon tank might not be larger enough to start
out with. I might as well find out now and start saving my pennies.
<Indeed, the bigger the better. I guess it depends what you want to do.
For fish-only aquaria, a 55-100 gallon tank is a great idea because you
can keep a nice selection of the large but colourful animals that
wouldn't work in a reef tank, like Triggers, Puffers, Lionfish, Morays,
etc. Definitely worth sitting down with a good book and having a read.
Bob Fenner's "Conscientious Aquarist" is excellent, and I say that
without him looking over my shoulder telling me too!><<Hey! I see this
here/now! RMF>> Thanks in advance for you advice. <No probs.>
P.S. I would consider talking my husband into returning these fish to
Petsmart, but they have new rules. They have decided that you should not
have more then one shark in a tank. If you do, they will not accept
returns. <Ah, a beautiful example of a Stupid Rule. For one thing,
they're treating all fish with the word "shark" in its common name as
being somehow similar. The problem with common names, and why
experienced aquarists tend to dump them in favour of Latin names. What
they mean to say is that people should only have one Labeo spp. or
Epalzeorhynchus spp. "shark" (such as Rainbow and Red-tail Sharks) to
each tank. That is indeed correct. But the Colombian Shark is not at all
closely related to those fishes, and absolutely must be kept in a group.
The bigger the group in fact, the better.> We were told by a fish
store that Bala Shark, Colombian Sharks and Rainbow sharks would do well
together. <Rainbow sharks definitely are aggressive and territorial.
Bala Sharks and Rainbow sharks both need freshwater, Colombian Sharks
brackish, so not really a viable combo.> Now, my rainbow shark lives
in a 10 gallon by himself for sending a Bala Shark into shock. (Which
ended in death.) <Oh dear.> The Bala and Colombian sharks get
along fairly well and even try to school with each other. <How sweet!
Both species need pals. Colombian sharks are rather adorable in this
regard, and adults and juveniles school quite happily. People are
sometimes worried about adding new catfish to the group, but no, they
seem to really enjoy the company.> I suspect the employees are the
fish store are pretty knowledgeable, they just refuse to tell us the
whole truth unless we ask the right questions. <Perhaps. I can see
where the Pet store is coming from, but in this case they've extended a
serviceable idea way beyond its boundaries. Cheers, Neale.>
Arius seemanni Tankmates? 2/14/07 Hello, <Hi Glenn,
Pufferpunk here> I have seemingly happy (8 cm) Arius Seemanni living
in a 120 US gallon tank with (right now) a 16,5 PPT. <HUH?> My
questions: Is there room enough for more fish? <Your catfish is
a schooling species, so more of the same, would be my 1st choice. A
beautiful sight--a school of these fish!> If so what about 3 or 4
Mono fish? <Monos grow to a foot & would require around 300g for a
school of them.> If so Mono fish, which one would be the best in my
situation Sebae or Argenteus? <Neither, IMO. Monos not only get
large (as does your fish) but they are extremely skittish & your cat is
quite the swimmer--not exactly a calming effect for a mono.> If not
Mono fish, do you have any suggestions (knowing that I want to go light
marine). <I'd say get a couple more Arius seemanni.> What about
Damselfish in light marine in company with 2 Arius Seemanni? <You
catfish will eventually eat them & anything else they can fit into their
large mouth. ~PP> Thanks, Glenn Salinity Woes 11/27/06
I recently bought 1 Pleco (3 inch), 3 Cory Cats (1inch), an Iridescent
Shark (2 inch), and a Colombian Shark (2 inch) for my 55 gal.
aquarium. I know that the sharks will outgrow this tank. <Yep> My
question deals with the salinity of the water, as I found out (after the
fact) that the Colombian Shark will prefer a brackish/marine environment
as it matures. How much salinity will my other fish tolerate? Thanks!
Kevin R. <Not much/any for the Corys and Pleco. This mix is not
viable for the long term.> <Chris> Columbian
Shark Question - 4/11/2006 Hi there!
<Greetings> I have spent hours and hours (well. if I put all the
hours together, they would probably add up to months!!) reading your
fantastic site. And in preparation for my new marine project, I am
currently reading your (Robert Fenner's) amazing book "The Conscientious
Marine Aquarist". It's a fascinating book that has taught me a huge
amount already and keeps me up reading into the late hours of the night
:-) I highly recommend it. <Me too> I was wondering
if I could ask a question regarding my current situation. First, I will
explain how I got there!! <Okay> I decided to add another tank
to my collection - this time a brackish one since I love the Figure
Eight Puffer. Once my 20 gallon was cycled and brackish-ized (!),
<Heee! New term> I went to the local aquarium shop to purchase my
Figure Eight Puffer. They recommended that I add to the tank two
Columbian Sharks (Hexanematichthys seemanni) I was surprised as I
thought Figure Eights needed 20 gallons each, <They do... and
these catfishes much more> but they convinced me that the sharks
would be a wonderful addition. And so off I went with my three new
brackish friends . well, friends to me, not to each other. Needless to
say my research was correct - I soon had to remove the two poor sharks
when I woke up one morning to find they had both lost most of their fins
- but I am relieved to say that after being placed in another tank
and with much loving care and anguish on my part the fins are finally
growing back. <Are very tough animals in good settings> Now,
before I went to the store I hadn't heard of Columbian Sharks and just
trusted the store's claim to "expertise" at the time. Since then, I have
researched them and realize that as adults they need marine water and a
much larger tank. <Yes> Since I am moving in a couple of months,
I will be buying them a new tank when I move to my new place. So, now to
my questions! 1. I know that the sharks need to be gradually
acclimatized to a marine setup when they are adults - but how can I tell
when they are adults? Is it according to size, months, years? <Size
of the fish mostly... more salty with growth...> 2. And how
gradually should they be acclimatized once they reach the age when their
s.g. should be increased? <A thousandth or two per week of spg
change is about right> 3. I wish my sharks to live a long, happy and
healthy life and therefore before I invest in their new tank, I wonder
if you could advise me on size. I was thinking of getting a 72" long
tank. Is that a good size for them? <Yes> 4. Keeping in mind the
sharks' adult size, health, happiness and bio-load, would it be possible
to add any other marine fish to the new tank? <Yes> Or should
they be kept on their own? <Are fine mixed with other compatible
livestock... and nice to have motion, life in the middle and upper
reaches of the tank> My favourite other fish are the Porcupine
Puffer or a Trigger Fish. However, I know that both of those are
aggressive species. But since the sharks will grow quite large, I was
wondering if this will keep the Porcupine or Trigger away from the
sharks and thus make them compatible. But if not, then I will not take
the risk. <Easier going, starting small specimens, species of these
would likely go fine> Many thanks for all your hard work in
answering everyone's questions. You provide us with a very much needed
support system and with an unending supply of knowledge. <Thank you
for sharing, your upbeat note. Bob Fenner> Best wishes to you all,
Sandra P.S. My Figure Eight seems very happy on his own. He has even
trained me to understand what he wishes to eat. When he swims to the
front of the tank and catches my eye, he will then look up when he wants
shrimp but will hold eye contact with me while swimming downwards when
he wants a snail. I learnt this the hard way - when he started doing
this and I gave him the wrong food, he refused to eat but now that I
understand his "language" I get it right every time and he eats his
dinner to the very last bite!! Silver tipped "Shark"
Ok we were misinformed when we bought two "sharks". We were told they
were freshwater and would be just fine in our tank with goldfish,
spotted catfish and various "sucker" fish. We are very immature fish
folk. Will these poor "sharks" die in freshwater? And if they need the
salt, then we should get a separate tank most likely, yes? <Mmm, what
you have are very likely minnow-sharks... cyprinid fishes that look
"shark-like"... they are freshwater, not marine... and some are
cold/cool water species, that can/do get along with goldfish (which are
cool/coldwater minnows/cyprinids... Take a look on WWM here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/minnowshks.htm. Do you
see your shark? If not use the search tools on fishbase.org and
Google... with the terms "silver shark aquarium"... and see if you can
find the scientific name for your fish and go back to fishbase.org and
plug in this name. This will get you information on the habitat of this
species. Bob Fenner><<Turned out to be an Ariid Catfish... please see
the root/Marine web re. RMF>> Arius Seemanni
Compatibility <Hello! Ryan with you> Hi Guys. Your site is
awesome. <Thanks!> I have a compatibility question. I have been told by
a guy at a local tropical fish retailer that I could put a couple of
Five-fin sharks (or Columbia Sharks what ever you would choose to call
them these days) along with African Cichlids. I have been told and
found sites to back this up, that the sharks would be able to protect
themselves and do better in pairs than on there own. Is it true that I
could put the sharks in with the cichlids? I hope that it is because I
think those sharks are very neat to watch. What is your opinion?
<I've tried this. In a 150, I used to keep 10 assorted Africans, a few
pictus cats and a pair of Columbia Sharks, Arius Seemanni. Everything
initially was a success. After a year or two, the pictus cats started
getting tormented. The Columbians were not far behind. They did defend
themselves quite well, but it was stressful enough that I removed
them. Africans are unpredictable- This may work fine for years, or may
be WW3 the second you remove them from quarantine and introduce
them. Does the benefit outweigh the risk? That's the question you'll
have to answer. Good luck! Ryan> Cheers. Mike Ariid
Cat/"Columbian Shark" compatibility questions Hi Bob (or other
WWM crew member), Currently I have two 4-5" Hexanematichthys
seemanni In a 30gal long (36x13), But I will soon be getting them a
180gal All-Glass drilled tank that I will use to rise the salinity
up to 1.025 (over 18 months) from 1.000. Anyway, I would like to
know if they could be kept with a yellow tang and a clown
fish+anemone and other inverts. Thank You -Joey <Should work out
fine. These are really beautiful catfishes, especially when large, in
mixed saltwater settings. Bob Fenner> More Ariid Cat/"Columbian
Shark" compatibility questions Hi Bob (or other WWM crew
member), I have yet more questions about what I can keep with my
Hexanematichthys seemanni. I was reading on WWM that some fish look at
cleaner shrimp as a $1.75 snack. Are Hexanematichthys seemanni one of
these fish? <Too likely yes. Bob Fenner> Thank You -Joey
Columbian Shark Needs Friends 4/25/05 <Hi, Pufferpunk here>
I have a question about my aquarium. It is 20 gallons now but will be
upgraded as needed within a year. The only fish in the tank is one very
friendly Columbian shark named Antonio. The poor guy wants a buddy; I'm
sure by the way he follows my finger against the glass. The problem is
if we get another Columbian we won't know who is who. Is there another
catfish or shark species that will keep Antonio company while the tank
slowly shifts to full saltwater? <since Antonio is actually a
schooling species, he would be happiest with more of his same kind.>
Perhaps a mail order outfit is available for other brackish catsharks?
If the only species available are Columbian sharks, would a molly,
orange Chromides or similar mid-water community type fish keep our
little Columbian boy company? That is until Antonio eats this smaller
fish! Thank you. <I'm glad you are planning on an upgrade in tank
size & marine conditions. A school of 18" silver sharks can be quite an
impressive sight on their own! Just make sure the tank is big
enough. ~PP> Killer Catfish? Thank you! You really put my mind at ease. I
love my 3 aquariums even if they got a little neglected when I had a
baby last August (never to the point of bad water or disrepair, just not
as diligent as I had been). Now that I am turning my attention fully
back to my aquatic pets, I have one more question and I'll leave you
alone. I have done a lot of research on this, but haven't come to a
conclusion. I have an unplanted 55 gallon tank with two 330 Penguin
BioWheel filters with a 4.5 year old silver tip shark catfish (Mack the
Knife) and a large Pleco (Rainbow Barrone, Jr.). He had been coexisting
with one Oscar who succumbed to old age. My husband was pretty
heartbroken by Salvador the Oscar dying, so he didn't want another one.
I got a Jack Dempsey, but Mack apparently killed him one night in a
territory dispute. Short story long, is there any other species that
would be compatible with Mack, or should I just leave him and Rainbow in
there alone? < If Mack is going to kill all the new fish then I think
leaving him alone is the best way to go> Also, I've noticed Rainbow
sucking on Mack lately. Is this a harmful practice? Should I separate
them? Mack doesn't seem to mind as he just lays there. Thanks again!
< Plecos have mouth parts for scrapping algae of things like rocks and
wood. They will also scrape the protective slime off fish and can be a
problem for fish like discus and angels. Little Cory cats on the other
hand are just looking for bits of left over food and are
harmless.-Chuck> New Tank Stocking Hi I need a little
information, if you don't mind. <It would be my pleasure.> I have
a 10 gall tank, with 2 Arius seemanni, when I bought them they called
them high bull fin sharks. <Call them what you want, these fellas are
monsters. Check out fishbase.org, search for Tete sea catfish for more
information on these fish. I'd take them back to the store and slap the
guy who sold them to you to put in a 10 gallon tank. They will grow to
be around 13 inches.> I have tropical fish pellets, 2 red tetras, and
a bottom feeder. I am confused on what to do for these fish. I am
reading that they are really salt water fish and they eat live food and
will eat others in the tank. <If your tetras start disappearing, you
will know why.> I also am not sure about what kind of tank I need,
what about ph and what about mouth brooder what is all of this? <pH
6.0-8.0, brackish water would be best for long term health. Mouth
brooders rear their young in their mouth.> I am a beginner and in
need of help. I have had these fish for 3 hours and I am feeling as if
I am way in over my head. <I would reconsider these catfish they are
going to need a much larger tank, and brackish water. There are some
delightful tetras out there, maybe offer a trade at the store you
purchased them from. I love my black neon tetras.> Also I am
wondering what could be wrong with one of these seemannis it has a
swollen belly does that mean it is pregnant or has eggs?? <Probably
not. Missing any tetras?> Thank you so much if you take the time to
answer these questions. <No problem, we have a ton of good reading
out our site, I'd recommend starting at the link below. Best Regards,
Gage
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwset-up.htm > Big
Catfish Hello, Tonight my hubby brought home two "silver
sharks" for my tank as a surprise. After searching the web and much
reading I've found that these are actually Columbian Sharks. <Uh oh>
I am concerned as to whether or not these two new additions will get
along well with the currant inhabitants in my 55: 3 clown loaches (2
1/2 inches) 3 yo-yo loaches (4 inches) 1 tiger barb (very young -
1/2 inch) 1 pink (kissing) Gourami (3 1/2 inches) 3 balloon
mollies (1 adult female/2 juveniles) 2 otos (young around 1 inch)
ghost shrimp (roughly 15) I've read that Columbian Sharks can become
aggressive and can eventually kill off my other fish. I really don't
want things to come to this. So, would my current inhabitants be alright
with these two "newcomers" or should I take them back to the LFS? Any
suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Many Thanks in
Advance . . . ~ Vosklady <The Columbian shark is a catfish that
can grow up to 13in, which is too big for a 55gal tank. I would be
willing to bet that as they grow they eat whichever tank mates can fit
into their mouths. They also prefer saltier water as they get older. I
would take them back to the store and go for at least 2 more Tiger
Barbs, they prefer to hang out in groups. Best Regards, Gage> Hi
Gage . . . :) Thanks you so much for getting back to me, I truly
appreciate it. I plan on taking the pair back to the store as soon as
I have some time to do so sometime this week. Many Thanks Again &
Best Regards, ~ Vosklady (Stacey)
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