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Re: Service company and feeding 7/8/08 I was able to download one
of the shows by Reece. Listened to the first half before I made some
dinner for the kids. Pretty good, I'll be keeping an eye out for your
appearance. I'm sure it'll be interesting! Bout the same the same story
with the B/F currently, I'll keep working on it. I left them by
themselves with the feeder this three day weekend and this morning they
all looked fantastic, so that's refreshing. (Amm-0, Nitrite-0,
Nitrate-.15, Phosphate-0) You know, the service biz ain't no joke, it's
been very nerve-wrecking for me so far. <With great rewards...>
Normally you're with your tank every minute that you're home, observing.
Can't do that here, it's tough. I'm sure you know exactly what I'm
talking about, it's hard to describe. Gonna keep on keeping on though,
I'm thriving off of it. The other tank is a 220G display with 80G sump,
I built it in-wall in the guys basement. This was a SERIOUSLY
underestimated project! The entire time I was very overwhelmed.
<Live... and hopefully learn...> Has all the bells and whistles,
halides, MR2, GEO 624, CL with 4-way OM) Took me two months solid (which
would now take me half as long now that I've done it, and the owner knew
this going into it) Any advice? <Ask for more money, or chalk all up
to experience and move on> I just read over the
"Silver-Tipped/Columbian/Jordan/Ariid Cats" and I like what I've read.
You didn't mention fish but at least one of mine would be this Catfish.
My pops always had em growing up, LOVE the look and the way they glide
through the aquarium, definitely shark-like. I'm interested in adding a
small shoal, (3) to a 110 FOWLR I currently have here at the house. Upon
further research it seems I may have put together a nice environment for
this species. My question is, at what age will they be completely
comfortable to full strength sea water? <With growth, more than time,
when they're six to eight inches in length... about a year possibly>
As long as I can remember, they've always been offered at the 3"-4"
range, usually on the lower end of that. Will youngsters be ready for a
FOWLR assuming I went through the recommended acclimation procedures?
<Yes> I'm thinking three of them with an adult Volitans would make a
great aggressive display. <Okay> Pretty cool Walt Smith is a
friend, along with many others, Calfo, Michael, Paletta, come to mind
among others. Wow. My friends just go to bars and clubs.... lol.
<Mmmm, this is about all we do as well... while talking about aquariums
of course> Nice talkin to ya. <BobF>
Columbian Cat Shark, comp., sys. 6/3/08 I have bought
three Columbian Cat Sharks from my LFS. They were about 3 inches (2
weeks ago). I have put them in my 65 gal Reef Aquarium. Tanks mates are
2 common clowns and a six lined Wrasse which I think are going to be on
the menu in a few months, but I have another marine aquarium they can be
moved to. <Interesting set up. The Shedd Aquarium in Chicago used to
keep some species of Sea Catfish (I think Ariopsis felis) in a tank that
was essentially a giant reef tank in the Rotunda. Sea Catfish look *a
lot* like small sharks, and it was quite something to watch them cruise
that tank.> So far they seem fine with the soft corals and clean up
crew, but when they get larger which is apparently going to be sooner
rather than later given their current growth rate are they likely to eat
the clean up crew as well, hermit crabs, turbo snails, emerald crab and
common urchin? <More than just "likely", it's probable! These
catfish are completely opportunistic predators, and a significant amount
of their diet consists of crustaceans of various times.> The tank is
furnished with macro algae, live rock, bubble tip anemone, devil finger
coral, mushrooms, xiena and yellow star polyps (sorry about spelling?)
These fish will be the priority in the tank and I wanted to create a
aquarium matching there natural habitat so what should I used to create
the biotype? <Sea Catfish are estuary/inshore water animals. You
find them in harbours, around rocky reefs (oysters beds for example),
mangroves, sandy estuaries, and so on. So while they're not really picky
animals, they have a preference for shallow water habitats where they
stick close to the substrate. Their whiskers, electric sense, and
(apparently) echolocation sense all help them to find food in turbid
waters where other predatory fish would be at a disadvantage. In other
words: classic catfish habitat! A perfect tank for them would have some
big rocks (with sessile invertebrates if you wanted) and caves, an open
sandy area, and a HECK of a strong water current. Not too much light if
possible; or at least concentrate the light on the parts of the tank
where the corals are, and leave some part of the tank shady. That said,
they're wonderfully adaptable fish, and provided they have swimming
space and a few friends of their own species, they aren't demanding.
They mix well with most marine fish, though I've found they don't get
along with Triggerfish -- triggers use clicking sounds as threats, so
misunderstand the clicking noises Sea Catfish employ when communicating.
The triggers attack the cats, the cats start clicking because they're
frightened, and the trigger gets even more irate. As you can imagine,
this isn't what you want, because both species are well armed and able
to dish out serious damage. Triggers have whopping great bite, while Sea
Catfish have an anti-coagulant bite (causes serious bleeding) plus
venomous spines.> Thanks <You're welcome, Neale.>
Re: Columbian Cat Shark -
6/3/08 Thanks
Neale, They look completely stunning in a Reef Aquarium, no one
believes me when I tell then they are not actually real sharks and will
not grow 6ft. The way they move and cruse the aquarium mid level and
explore the caves makes them look remarkably like Reef Sharks. <Have
seen them thus, and yes, the likeness is amazingly close, right down to
the way they swim. One ichthyology text book I have begins the chapter
on catfish by saying simply "Catfish do everything". Bold stuff from a
scientist, but really very true. An amazing group of fish, and the more
species you keep, the more impressed you become with their
adaptability.> Theirs colours have changed from washed out silver to
dark metallic steel grey, with a brownish dorsal fin, the rest of the
fins are black with white tips. They have great appetites and are
growing by the day. <Juveniles grow very rapidly. They level off
around about 15-20 cm, and only very infrequently do aquarium specimens
reach their maximum size in the wild of 35 cm. Some experienced
aquarists have opined that there may be more than one species in the
trade offered under the Colombian Shark Catfish moniker, and hence the
variability in maximum size.> I have a very strong current in the
tank from 4 power heads and they love the current. Not seen them sit on
the tank bottom once... but then they even sleep on the
wing...whoops...fin! Never stop! <Indeed so! They are migratory in
the wild, moving up and down estuaries all the time.> Feeding them
enough to maintain there activity level will be the challenge in a Reef
tank without upsetting the water quality ! <Adults do need rather
less food per unit body mass than the juveniles; it's generally
recommended that big catfish be fed only every other day. I tend to
prefer to simply offer small daily meals, ideally things that are high
in fibre (like unshelled crustaceans) so that the fish feel full without
too much protein (i.e., nitrogen) getting into the system.> Thanks
again. <Cheers, Neale.> Columbian Cat Shark summer heat
et al. 5/13/07 I have 3 4 inch CCSs in a 55 gallon tank
(more on that later) and am worrying about the water temperature in my
summertime, non-air-conditioned apartment. Because my apartment is
getting warm, the tank is at 80f (have a heater, normally set at 77f,
currently removed; it's not even high summer yet). Basically, should I
be looking at buying a chiller for the tank before it gets any
warmer? Any ideas on cheap/diy chilling? <All sorts... posted on
WWM... however, I would first try simply leaving your aquarium lights
turned off during the day, perhaps less cover over the tank, adding a
fan to speed up evaporative cooling...> As for the tank (currently
brackish 1.010) how big should the sharks be before they're fully
marine? <Mmm... six to eight inches overall likely> Current
plan is to build a new, large reef tank and put 'em in there, and it
seems reasonable to get that going as soon as the sharks are happy with
it. Our freshwater fish live in shame in an old Tupperware bin, I
promised them the 55 gallon back once the sharkies get a new home.
<Heeee! I like to keep my promises> Thanks! Paul <Welcome.
BobF> Do Columbian sharks need light 12/20/06
<I apologize for the delay, Shereeann. We are having problems receiving
certain formats of email, rendering some emails unviewable. I have not
been available to resend these to the crew for response purposes, and I
apologize. Original message as follows. -JustinN> <Again, thank you
my friend. Bob> Hello. First let me tell you guys that your site is
the best. The website has helped me many times. I own two Columbian
sharks (4 inches) and have been trying to do everything properly to
raise them to their full potential, except one thing. I never replaced
the broken aquarium light for the tank. Basically, they live with no
light. <Mmm, actually only needed for your appreciation
of these beautiful animals> I try to open the bedroom window for
them in the daytime but where I live there are many trees and they never
really get any good sunlight. <As is the case in the wild,
assuredly> At night they live in total darkness and sometimes a few
hours of bedroom light. I always thought that these kind of fish like
the dark but I could be wrong. Please tell me what kind of light they
need to grow. Is bedroom light enough? <Yes> Do they have to
have direct sun rays coming at them? <Mmm, no... no for instance,
nutritional needs like Vitamin D synthesis...> Can they live in
total darkness 24/7? <Mmm, is not totally dark is it?> By the
way, they live alone just the two of them. Thank you for your time in
advance. Shereeann <Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob Fenner>
Columbian Sharks 12/19/06 <Hi,
Pufferpunk here> Hey I have a couple questions. One is that my
friend just gave me two catfish because they got too big for his
tank. He said they were Columbian catfish. Right away I was worried
that they might be too big to start acclimating to brackish water since
they are suppose to be brackish when small and full marine when full
grown. Is it too late for me to acclimate them to the right water
conditions? <It is never too late to bring a BW fish from FW
to BW. Just raise the specific gravity .002 weekly (with marine salt),
to the desired SG (probably around 1.015-1.018, for now). Are there
other BW fish in this tank? Is the tank cycled?> One
is about 8in. and the other about 6 1/2in. Another question is, both
have a black spot on their sides by their gills is this normal? Please
help me make these beautiful cat fish happy. <Your new fish sound
fine. They are schooling fish though. They will grow close to 18" &
will need quite a large tank, since they are active swimmers. They will
eat anything they can fit into their large mouth. ~PP>
Columbian Sharks 10/26/06 Hello WWM crew, I have a 55G
(standard florescent 36 watt, Fluval 205, protein skimmer, 200GPH
powerhead) with 50 lbs LR, 3 inch sandbed, 2 blue damsels, 1
Pseudochromis, 1 scooter blenny, 2 urchins, 1 Condy, 10+ blue legged
hermits, 1 turbo snail, 1 chocolate chip star and 2 (2 inch) Columbian
sharks. <These will outgrow this system> I am currently
completing the cycling of a 75G (T5 florescent 64 watt 6500k, Emperor
400 BIO-Wheel, aragonite substrate) for the Columbian sharks. <Oh,
good> Here's the problem... I am accepting an emergency adoption of
4 Columbian sharks (8 inch, 6 inch, and [2] 4 inch). <... will need
more room...> The new shark will be in the 75G while the 2 Columbian
sharks I currently own will temporarily remain in the 55G. I am picking
up a used 150G (and budgeting/shopping for larger) to quickly began
cycling for the growing Columbian sharks. <Oh! Even better> I
currently feed the Columbian sharks a diet of dried blood worms, frozen
krill, frozen brine, and flake (that they steal from the damsels).
Questions: 1. It seems as though 300+ gallon tanks are getting
slightly out of the standard consumer market. Do you recommend any
particular websites/brands to look at in this size? <Mmm... do a
look/see re acrylic fabricators in your area... unless price isn't
really a large factor... And the possibility of DIY...> 2. Would a
size-adjusted duplication (for 150 or larger when purchased) of my 75G
setup be the best for these Columbian sharks? <Would/could work out
fine> 3. Is there anything you would recommend to go with the
Columbian sharks (i.e.-not fish but... anemone, cleaners, etc.)?
<All sorts of suitable animals... fishes and non-fishes...>
4. Although I have tried to do my best with research, any
recommendations on current setup/procedures would be welcome. Sorry
for so many questions, but it appears WWM is the best source for us
"one-day-wanna-be" experts out here. Thanks, Steve <Mmm...
and you have perused the bits on these Ariid Cats:
http://wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm and the linked files above?
Bob Fenner>
Tank size question regarding Colombian Cat Shark
(Arius seemanni) - 10/13/06 Hello, <<Greetings,
Glenn. Tom>> I am thinking of buying 3 and keeping them (alone) in a
110-gallon tank. I have not the opportunity to buy a bigger tank later
on because my room is not big enough. So my question is: "Will this size
tank eventually become to small for them, or will it be tolerant for
them as adults”. <<I see no reason why a 110-gallon tank won’t
accommodate three of these fish. Since you’re asking this question,
you’ve done some research and know that these animals are brackish water
species. They can even require full marine conditions in adulthood.
Provided that you’re prepared to “transition” them as they mature, I
wish you luck with your venture and enjoy.>> Glenn <<Tom>>
Re: Tank size question regarding Colombian Cat Shark (Arius seemanni)
<<Hello again, Glenn.>> Sounds good... now, what would you
recommend, still talking about my 110 gallon tank and the three Arius
S.: only having two instead - giving them more space but the lack of the
third - or still going for the three - giving them a better feeling
being in a school, but less space. <<Glenn, strictly speaking, I'd
love to see these big fish have all the room you can give them, which
would mean going with two versus three. A consideration here is the
possibility that something unforeseen could happen to one of your fish
down the road. If its tank mate is too large to safely introduce a new
"buddy", you're down to one pet. That's a decision you'll have to make
but I do want to throw it out for what it's worth. Tom>>
Columbian sharks... in gen. 6/5/06 <Hi, Pufferpunk here> So
we have read the many postings that you have about protozoa infections
but we are not understanding some of it or we are not doing something
right. We have 4 (previously 5) Columbian sharks in a 75 gal. tank.
<Since they can grow up to 18" each, you may need to upgrade to a much
larger tank.> 2 are about 5 in. and 2 are 4in. With them we have 10
guppies that we bread and raised, <Will eventually be eaten by the
sharks> a Pleco and 1 (previously 2) Chinese algae eaters. We
noticed what looked like a spider web on 1 shark and 2 days later he
died and was covered in white web looking stuff. Went to pet store and
found a picture of protozoan symptoms-put AP-Plus Cure -Ick in as
directed-3 days later they started eating again and seemed all better.
Then about 1 wk later they stopped eating again and got lethargic and
were digging their noses in the rocks again-1 of the Chinese algae
eaters died and 2 guppies. We started putting the medicine in again 3
days ago but they are not responding this time-1 shark even has slime on
him that just showed up today AFTER 3 days of treatment. Please help -
what do we do??? Do we need to super clean out the whole tank and
replace the gravel? We fear that will over stress them and they may die
from that??? The little fish seem to be OK except for the 2 that died 2
days ago. Our pet stores don't have any other meds.
<Columbian sharks are brackish water fish that require marine conditions
as adults. I'm afraid as long as you are keeping them in freshwater,
their immune systems will be compromised, causing disease & short
lifespans. I suggest putting them into the proper conditions for
healthier, long lived fish. substrate should be crushed coral or
aragonite, to keep the pH around a steady 8. Your FW fish will not
appreciate BW conditions, especially the Pleco. ~PP>
Columbian Shark Question - 4/11/2006 Hi there!
<Greetings> I have spent hours and hours (well. if I put all the
hours together, they would probably add up to months!!) reading your
fantastic site. And in preparation for my new marine project, I am
currently reading your (Robert Fenner's) amazing book "The Conscientious
Marine Aquarist". It's a fascinating book that has taught me a huge
amount already and keeps me up reading into the late hours of the night
:-) I highly recommend it. <Me too> I was wondering
if I could ask a question regarding my current situation. First, I will
explain how I got there!! <Okay> I decided to add another tank
to my collection - this time a brackish one since I love the Figure
Eight Puffer. Once my 20 gallon was cycled and brackish-ized (!),
<Heee! New term> I went to the local aquarium shop to purchase my
Figure Eight Puffer. They recommended that I add to the tank two
Columbian Sharks (Hexanematichthys seemanni) I was surprised as I
thought Figure Eights needed 20 gallons each, <They do... and
these catfishes much more> but they convinced me that the sharks
would be a wonderful addition. And so off I went with my three new
brackish friends . well, friends to me, not to each other. Needless to
say my research was correct - I soon had to remove the two poor sharks
when I woke up one morning to find they had both lost most of their fins
- but I am relieved to say that after being placed in another tank
and with much loving care and anguish on my part the fins are finally
growing back. <Are very tough animals in good settings> Now,
before I went to the store I hadn't heard of Columbian Sharks and just
trusted the store's claim to "expertise" at the time. Since then, I have
researched them and realize that as adults they need marine water and a
much larger tank. <Yes> Since I am moving in a couple of months,
I will be buying them a new tank when I move to my new place. So, now to
my questions! 1. I know that the sharks need to be gradually
acclimatized to a marine setup when they are adults - but how can I tell
when they are adults? Is it according to size, months, years? <Size
of the fish mostly... more salty with growth...> 2. And how
gradually should they be acclimatized once they reach the age when their
s.g. should be increased? <A thousandth or two per week of spg
change is about right> 3. I wish my sharks to live a long, happy and
healthy life and therefore before I invest in their new tank, I wonder
if you could advise me on size. I was thinking of getting a 72" long
tank. Is that a good size for them? <Yes> 4. Keeping in mind the
sharks' adult size, health, happiness and bio-load, would it be possible
to add any other marine fish to the new tank? <Yes> Or should
they be kept on their own? <Are fine mixed with other compatible
livestock... and nice to have motion, life in the middle and upper
reaches of the tank> My favourite other fish are the Porcupine
Puffer or a Trigger Fish. However, I know that both of those are
aggressive species. But since the sharks will grow quite large, I was
wondering if this will keep the Porcupine or Trigger away from the
sharks and thus make them compatible. But if not, then I will not take
the risk. <Easier going, starting small specimens, species of these
would likely go fine> Many thanks for all your hard work in
answering everyone's questions. You provide us with a very much needed
support system and with an unending supply of knowledge. <Thank you
for sharing, your upbeat note. Bob Fenner> Best wishes to you all,
Sandra P.S. My Figure Eight seems very happy on his own. He has even
trained me to understand what he wishes to eat. When he swims to the
front of the tank and catches my eye, he will then look up when he
wants shrimp but will hold eye contact with me while swimming downwards
when he wants a snail. I learnt this the hard way - when he started
doing this and I gave him the wrong food, he refused to eat but now that
I understand his "language" I get it right every time and he eats
his dinner to the very last bite!! Lonely
Schooling Columbian Shark 7/28/06 Hey Guys, <Hi Joe,
Pufferpunk here> I think your web site is great and I have learned a
lot from you guys. <Glad to hear it!> Anyway I have a Arius
seemanni he is about 6.5in and mostly just swims around the top of my
tank. The other day he jumped out I was luckily there and put him back
into the tank, he immediately started swimming like nothing happened.
<I hope you add a nice, sturdy cover to that tank after that!> I did
notice that his eyes where kind of foggy and he seemed to bump into
stuff more often. But as of today 6/28 his eyes look good and I was
told he had an infection. What do you think? <Whatever it was,
seems to be gone now.> Also he is in full saltwater and all the
water parameters are perfect. He has no other catfish friends and I was
wondering if he would be happy and school with coral catfish? If so how
many should I get? <Since this is a schooling species, he would
definitely like some friends like himself. The fact that they can reach
sizes of around 18" though, means a HUGE tank in their future, for a
school of 5-6. ~PP> Thank you for your and knowledge, Joe
Columbian Catfish & Brackish Water 6/25/06 Hello! <Hi Lou,
Pufferpunk here> I have a few questions for you! First--a
little history. We set up a 10 gallon community tank for our 7 year
old last fall. All was well--he does a great job testing the water and
caring for his fish. <Good for him, at 7! I bet he had
a little help...> Anyway, Christmas Eve, my sister-in-law bought him
two silver-tipped sharks and an algae eater. (Even after I told her that
his tank was at capacity and a PEACEFUL tank.) <Bad,
bad, bad idea to ever give pets as gifts! I hope she was well scolded!>
She gave them to him at 9 pm Christmas Eve, so we had no choice but to
put them in the 10 gallon tank. They did very well but got fairly
large. <No surprise there--they can get to 18" if housed
properly.> All three are at least 6 inches long.
<Ummm... do you have 2 or 3?> We started to have water trouble and
one of our zebra danios mysteriously, completely disappeared.
<Gulp! Large water changes are in order for these fish, with voracious
appetites & lots of waste in return.> We moved the sharks and algae
eater into a 55 gallon 3 weeks ago. (We do keep the water brackish
for them). <The other fish you have will not appreciate
any salt. As far as "brackish" what do you mean? Even for very low-end
BW (a specific gravity of 1.005), it would require roughly around a cup
of marine salt/5gallons. At the size your Columbian sharks are now,
they should be around mid-range BW, 1.010 (you'll need a hydrometer to
measure SG). They will require marine conditions as adults (at least
1.020). They are also schooling fish. So for a school of 18" fish,
you're going to need a really HUGE tank! (Time to go back to the
sis-in-law for more scolding!)> My first questions are about the
sharks. They have always swam together. Now that they're in the bigger
tank, we can see them better. They swim almost vertical and push their
whiskers out of the water near the filter. Is this normal?
<Is there enough current or air-flow in there? Check the water
parameters (ammonia, nitrIte, nitrAte, pH)> They are very skittish
and when startled, shoot back and forth across the tank at lightening
speed. <They might need more decor to feel safe. Even
some floating plastic plants might help (live plants don't do well in
BW)> They appear healthy and are growing like crazy but seeing
their bellies constantly seems strange. I thought they were bottom
feeders? <Generally anything with whiskers are.>
Today they are actually swimming separate more, which is shocking and
not constantly at the top but still going up the sides. Also, could
they mate? What would we look for? (Just baby sharks?) <Possibly
but not in those conditions & tank size. They will probably stunt in
there.> We also have 3 tiger barbs and a gourami in the 55 gallon
tank. <Opps! Not BW fish.> The barbs seem to nip each other
and chase around in circles a lot. Is this normal? Are they being
"playful" or trying to harm each other? It seems like the same two
going at it while the third darts in and out between them. <Typical
barb behaviour.> In a couple weeks, we were going to add another
gourami. <Not a BW fish.> Any
other suggestions? We'd like a colorful tank but don't want to load up
on any more fish that will get so big! What about a Bala? <Balas
grow huge and again are not BW fish. I think you should stick with
these 2 (or 3?) & start saving for a larger tank & bags of salt. They
are fast-moving, active fish that may be disturbing to peaceful
fish. Do more research on BW fish. ~PP> Thank you very much for
your help!! Lou Columbian Catfish & Brackish
Water 6/25/06 Hello! <Hi Lou, Pufferpunk here> I have a
few questions for you! First--a little history. We set up a 10 gallon
community tank for our 7 year old last fall. All was well--he does a
great job testing the water and caring for his fish.
<Good for him, at 7! I bet he had a little help...> Anyway,
Christmas Eve, my sister-in-law bought him two silver-tipped sharks and
an algae eater. (Even after I told her that his tank was at capacity
and a PEACEFUL tank.) <Bad, bad, bad idea to ever give
pets as gifts! I hope she was well scolded!> She gave them to him
at 9 pm Christmas Eve, so we had no choice but to put them in the 10
gallon tank. They did very well but got fairly large.
<No surprise there--they can get to 18" if housed properly.> All
three are at least 6 inches long. <Ummm... do you have
2 or 3?> We started to have water trouble and one of our zebra
danios mysteriously, completely disappeared.
<Gulp! Large water changes are in order for these fish, with voracious
appetites & lots of waste in return.> We moved the sharks and algae
eater into a 55 gallon 3 weeks ago. (We do keep the water brackish
for them). <The other fish you have will not appreciate
any salt. As far as "brackish" what do you mean? Even for very low-end
BW (a specific gravity of 1.005), it would require roughly around a cup
of marine salt/5gallons. At the size your Columbian sharks are now,
they should be around mid-range BW, 1.010 (you'll need a hydrometer to
measure SG). They will require marine conditions as adults (at least
1.020). They are also schooling fish. So for a school of 18" fish,
you're going to need a really HUGE tank! (Time to go back to the
sis-in-law for more scolding!)> My first questions are about the
sharks. They have always swam together. Now that they're in the bigger
tank, we can see them better. They swim almost vertical and push their
whiskers out of the water near the filter. Is this normal?
<Is there enough current or air-flow in there? Check the water
parameters (ammonia, nitrIte, nitrAte, pH)> They are very skittish
and when startled, shoot back and forth across the tank at lightening
speed. <They might need more decor to feel safe. Even
some floating plastic plants might help (live plants don't do well in
BW)> They appear healthy and are growing like crazy but seeing
their bellies constantly seems strange. I thought they were bottom
feeders? <Generally anything with whiskers are.>
Today they are actually swimming separate more, which is shocking and
not constantly at the top but still going up the sides. Also, could
they mate? What would we look for? (Just baby sharks?) <Possibly
but not in those conditions & tank size. They will probably stunt in
there.> We also have 3 tiger barbs and a gourami in the 55 gallon
tank. <Opps! Not BW fish.> The barbs seem to nip each other
and chase around in circles a lot. Is this normal? Are they being
"playful" or trying to harm each other? It seems like the same two
going at it while the third darts in and out between them. <Typical
barb behaviour.> In a couple weeks, we were going to add another
gourami. <Not a BW fish.> Any
other suggestions? We'd like a colorful tank but don't want to load up
on any more fish that will get so big! What about a Bala? <Balas
grow huge and again are not BW fish. I think you should stick with
these 2 (or 3?) & start saving for a larger tank & bags of salt. They
are fast-moving, active fish that may be disturbing to peaceful
fish. Do more research on BW fish. ~PP> Thank you very much for
your help!! Lou FW Columbian shark
size question / livebearer follow-up 6/17/06 Hi
again Jorie <Hi there> In the previous email you sent on how the
Colombian gets big. Yes I knew about that but it would take a while
before they get big. <True, but I guess I never understood buying
such a specimen if you don't have the setup ready, as good intentions
can often be thwarted by financial issues, etc.> What size of tank
would you recommend for the adult Colombian sharks? <Some recommend
starting with a min. tank size of 75 gal., while others say start with a
120+ gal. tank. Also, beware that when this fish grows, it may eat
smaller fish it can get into its mouth...> Yes, I am planning on
raising the fry but after wards I am going to give them away to friends
that have aquariums and that want some or even sell then to pet shops
<Do be sure to check before had that the fish stores you want to sell
your fry to will accept them - I've had situations where stores refuse
even donations, because of the sheer quantity they've already got on
hand...> <Jorie> Arius... Wal-Mart,
Mis-served consumers - 05/29/06 hello my name is kylie and
I have recently purchased 3 black finned sharks and I cant seem to find
any information on them and am only 15 so I have no idea what to feed
them or how big they get I bought them from Wal-mart and they said that
they only get to be about 6" but am not sure and I would like to know if
feeding them stuff like frozen brine shrimp would be a good idea or not?
<... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm and the linked files above>
because I was researching some stuff about a bala shark because that
what I thought they were the same thing and found to be incorrect and I
was wondering if a 10 gallon tank would be big enough along with having
4 guppies in the tank with them? <No... this venomous catfish gets
too big, is brackish to marine...> I would appreciated very much if
you could help me out with this because I do not wish for them to die so
if you could plz reply ASAP it would help greatly and is it ok to feed
them regular fish flakes or is there something specific I need to feed
them? Thank you for your help, Kylie <Do research ahead
of purchasing livestock. Bob Fenner> Another
<Arius> question - 05/29/06 I have another question about
my black finned sharks is it strange that they swim in a circle in one
corner of the tank? <Mmm, no and yes> am asking because they do
this all day and am worried that there might be something wrong with
them <There in a freshwater system... and they're not freshwater
animals...> and I just tried to feed them and its like they didn't
even notice the food was there so is there something wrong with them or
is this usual? Thank you, Kylie <Read my young friend,
now. I would return these animals to Wal-Mart. Bob Fenner>
Ich and Black fin sharks - 5/17/2006 Hi, <<Hi,
Jennifer. Tom here.>> I have a problem that I can't seem to resolve
and I'm not sure if it too late for my fish. I have a 10g tank with 2
black fin sharks (about 2-3 inches), 2 platies, and 1 Pleco. I had 3 BF
sharks, but one died (stress I think..) Also, had 3 platies but 1 died.
(I think from being attacked by the other fish because one day 1 of it's
side fins was half gone and it's tail fin was pretty beat up
looking. Anyhow, I noticed some bubble looking spots on the 2 BF sharks
and went out and purchased an Ich treatment. The guy at the fish store
said they use it all the time and it works fast. So I followed the 3
day process, and they seemed to look a little better. I skipped one day
as directed and am repeating the process. This is day three and they
look way worse than before. I also haven't seen them eating and one
looks as though it's mouth is fuzzy. <<Hazarding an
educated guess, Jennifer, the white spots you first noticed were the
beginning stages of Columnaris. I wouldn't discount Ich, of course, but
the "fuzzy" growth around the fish's mouth is Columnaris. I'd recommend
you begin treating with Melafix immediately. Once this bacteria affects
the organs of the fish, antibiotic treatment is in order and you're not
set up for that.>> None of the other fish are affected by the Ich,
just the sharks. Could this be something else? Are my sharks pretty
much goners and if so should I put them out of their misery? I have no
idea what to do. <<Treat with Melafix and, if this takes care of the
problem, find a new home for your sharks. In the proper environment and
correct conditions, these fish grow to be VERY large. They're also not
"true" FW fish but, rather, will require marine conditions as adults.
Your Pleco is going to need a larger tank than what you have now, as
well. Depending on the variety of Pleco you have, these, too, can grow
quite large. Much to learn before any more purchases, Jennifer. This
site is the best place to start.>> Jennifer <<Tom>>
Re: Ich and Black fin sharks 5/18/06 <<Tom>> Thanks,
I'll try the Melafix. Yesterday I did a water change again and they
seem to be back to eating like they were before (chasing off the Platies
and skimming the water surface aggressively for food). Hopefully this
is a good sign. <<Yes, it is, for now. This will change as the fish
mature, though, as they will tend to stay toward the bottom of the
tank.>> <Umm... this "good time" will not last... this catfish is a
brackish to marine species... will die soon unless moved to more
suitable conditions. Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm and the linked files above>
I know the Sharks are going to get rather large as well as the Pleco and
will purchase a much larger tank in the future. They are living in a
brackish tank right now, I'll have to look into marine tanks and read up
on the care of those. <Oh! Sorry re... thought these
were in freshwater... Loricariids/Plecos don't like/tolerate much
salt... Bob Fenner> <<Sorry that you seem to be getting
"double-teamed", Jennifer. Both Bob and I assumed your fish were in FW
and, of course, he's right about the Pleco not tolerating "salty"
conditions for long. (I apologize for the apparent conflict in
information.) By way of explanation, we receive a number of
questions regarding this fish - the Shark, specifically - and,
admittedly, it remains to be one of my "pet peeves" among those who
sell/distribute these to "unknowing" consumers. In the end, however, it
is we, the aquarists, who need to research and be informed prior to
purchasing. It sounds like you're aware already of what will need to be
done, which is great. Hope this hasn't proved too confusing for you
and we look forward to hearing from you in the future. Tom>>
Black fin shark's size ... Arius 5/4/06 Hi,
<<Hello, Jennifer. Tom with you this afternoon.>> I have 3 black fin
sharks who are about 2-3 inches long right now. <<I'm going under
the assumption here that these are Hexanematichthys seemanni (aka
Columbian Shark Catfish, White-tip Shark, et. al.).>> I have
searched the internet and found several sites that say they grow to be
about 14 inches long. <<This is probably the norm in aquaria if
properly cared for under the correct conditions. There are reports of
these animals growing to two feet in length but this wouldn't be
expected, generally.>> When I went back to the store and looked at
the description card provided it states they only grow to be up to 6
inches. They also said Iridescent Sharks grow to be up to 12
inches. Are they correct or are they misinformed? <<Let me put it
this way, Jennifer. You had the good sense to research your fish and
found that they can grow to over twice the size that this "store"
describes, which is actually better than their depiction of the
Iridescents that can grow to 36-40 inches and shouldn't be sold to
"hobbyists" in the first place. They're not "misinformed", they're
deliberately "misrepresenting". ;) Now, back to you, which is what
I'm really here for. Your fish, as you may have discovered, must make a
transition from freshwater to brackish and, ultimately, to marine
conditions at maturity to survive and thrive. They're also going to need
one heck of a lot of room. Not to scare you but, we're talking about a
marine set-up on the order of 150+ gallons, absolute minimum. If this is
beyond what you're ready to tackle, please, return them or find them a
suitable home now while they're still juveniles.>> Jennifer
<<Tom>> Sharks
<Arius cats> and a new tank 5/2/06 Hi, <Hello> I have
read quite a few posts but have not found an answer to my problem. Here
it is. I bought 3 black fin shark <Arius...>, 3 platy and 1 pleco (from
Wal-Mart, not sure what I was thinking). After reading the little
description card I take these guys home, set up their tank and put them
in it along with two live plants. That evening they were ok but the next
evening one was swimming upside down at the top of the tank and seemed
to be gasping for air. I immediately cleaned the tank which seemed to be
very dirty and placed them in a holding bucket and pumped air in thru an
air stone. It seemed very happy and normal again. I went out and bought
a filter, a thermometer, heater, and an extra air tube. I already had
the aquarium salt and air pump. Well I moved them to a 10 gal tank and
setup all of the equipment. Good...everything back to normal..... Until
today, again this shark, now swimming vertical and gasping for air at
the top of the tank but not yet upside down. I don't get it because the
other two are not acting this way. They like swimming in the air bubbles
and lurk around the bottom of the tank. I am on my way to purchase a
second air pump because for some reason I think this fish is short on
air supply. So my question is what in the world is going on with this
shark or is this normal?? I've only had them for 2 days now and am very
uninformed and now confused. Oh and they are only about 2-3 inches long
right now. I appreciate any advice or info you can provide.
Jennifer <The short answer is that the tank needs to be
cycled. Please consider returning the fish and waiting until the tank
is properly prepared for them. The long answer can be found here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwset-up.htm ,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwtips4beginners.htm and
perhaps most importantly here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm >. Good
luck and with a little preparation I'm sure you will be successful>
<Chris>
Black Fin (ariid catfish) Sharks <FW?>
Hello Crew, <Hi Greg, MacL here with you today> I love your site!
I've been an avid reader of your website, recommended to me by our local
salt water fish store, since I began work on my first salt water
aquarium. My question pertains to 2 Black Fin sharks that I have in a 20
gallon brackish water aquarium. <<?>> I've had the sharks for about a
year now and they are both about 4 inches long. They are very active and
healthy.<That's great!> But reading on your site tells me that the 20
gallon will not hold them for much longer.<They grow soooo fast!> I also
just read that they would prefer a saltwater environment once they get
closer to adulthood. I have currently a 55 gallon saltwater with 60lbs
of live rock, 2 1/2 inch sand bed, 1 Tomato Clown (1"), 1 Flame Angel, 2
Fire Fish, 1 cleaner Shrimp, 1 Sand Sifter Starfish, 1 4"Green Brain & a
few frag corals all doing well. Water parameters in the salt water tank
are PH 8.2, Salinity 1.024, Nitrates and Nitrites are 0. Can or should I
add the 2 sharks to this environment? <You can but they most likely will
eat your shrimp, and possibly your fire fish if the opportunity presents
itself.> If I can, how long should I set up a drip to acclimatize the
sharks to the saltwater salinity? <I would do it over as long a period
as possible. At least 12 hours is my preference and if I could I would
make it longer. Slow acclimation is best.> <<RMF wonders if these are
shark minnows... not cartilaginous fish>> Thanking you in advance,
Greg Forrest Sick Columbian Catfish 3/24/06 Dear WWM
crew, <Hi, Pufferpunk here> Thanks so much for your wonderful
website. I have learned a lot from it. <Great to hear!> I was
wondering if you can help me with the following: I have 2 Colombian cat
sharks each about 10.5 inches long in a 55 gal. tank. <Since they
can grow as large as 18", I'd suggest a 90+g for them.> Other fish
in the tank include 3 Monos and 2 Plecos. <Monos grow to about a
foot & will require another 120 gallons. Plecos have no place in
brackish water at all.> I have been having trouble keeping the level
of nitrates down and 3 of our scats died. <Scats too? You don't
mention the size of your fish but scats grow as large as a dinner
plate. All of the species you mention (except the Plecos) will require
marine conditions as they mature.> I had the tank in the basement
and decided to bring it up to the living room to better monitor the
tank. When I changed its location I made a 50 percent water change to
lower the level of nitrates. <50% water changes should be done on a
weekly basis.> However, since we moved the tank one of the cat
sharks has been sick. First I thought it was ich because I saw some
little white dots. Now I am not so sure. <That does sound like ich.>
Its skin looks almost like it has a thin discolored membrane over it.
Its color is dull compared to the healthy cat shark; its body color has
changed from gray-silver to gray-purple and its fin is always down. This
morning I also noticed that the fin has a white spot and it looks raw
and wrinkly. It almost looks like a fungus. He stays at the bottom very
still and his eyes are clear. He seems to be breathing quickly. He
has been in this condition for about 4 days. I have treated the tank
with ich medicine, I changed some of the water last night (the nitrates
are still high). <You should never medicate your entire display
tank. Sick fish should be medicated in a quarantine tank; so that all
the fish aren't subjected to the meds, the disease isn't spread further,
the fish isn't stressed by it's tank mates (because of it's weakened
condition) & you don't do harm to your biological filtration with the
meds. That way you can also do large water changes on a smaller tank.>
Also, I should say that one of the Monos had a sore in its mouth that I
was treating with penicillin (4 days). Now the treatment has stopped and
the sore is not as bad. So there was some penicillin in the water as
well as ich medicine. The temperature in the tank is 73F, salt water
level is 1.002, the Ph. 7.2, alkalinity moderate (80), hardness (very
hard), nitrates 160 (still unsafe). <Are you using
marine salt? The water is way too cold--should be 78-82 degrees. To
treat ich, you should raise the water temp to 86-87 degrees. Your SG
should probably be around 1.010. Nitrates should be under 20. Sounds
like you haven't been doing enough regular water changes in there. Are
you rinsing the filter & cleaning the gravel regularly? I should also
mention that pH for BW fish should be around a steady 8, usually done by
using aragonite or crushed coral as substrate.> I should also
mention that about 3 months ago he jumped out of the tank and was on the
floor for about 10-15 minutes before we found him. <Definitely
stressful. Stress=lowered immune system.> It took a while to
recover and he was never as perky as before. He kept to the bottom of
the tank most of the time but he was in good overall health. I really
would appreciate your advice. I don't know what to do and it seems to me
that time is running out for my "little" Colombian cat shark. Thanks a
lot for your assistance. <Start out doing 20% water changes daily,
until your nitrates are under 20. Add Melafix for the shark's skin &
the mono's mouth. If there are still ich spots, raise the temp. Keep
adding marine salt, getting the SG up .002/week until it is around
1.010-1.016. Continue doing 50% weekly water changes. Find homes for
the Plecos. Start saving for a much larger tank. By then, they should
be ready for SW. ~PP> Ill Colombian cat shark ... Bob's go
3/25/06 Dear Bob, Thanks so much for your wonderful website.
I have learned a lot from it. I was wondering if you can help me with
the following. I have 2 Colombian cat sharks about 10.5 inches long in a
55 gal. tank. <A bit crowded...> Other fish in the tank include
3 Monos and 2 Plecos. I have been having trouble keeping the level of
nitrates down and 3 of our scats died. <A bummer... need much more
room> I had the tank in the basement and decided to bring it up to
the living room to better monitor the tank. When I changed its
location I made a 50 percent water change to lower the level of
nitrates. However, since we moved the tank one of the cat sharks has
been sick. First I thought it was ich because I saw some little white
dots. Now I am not so sure. Its skin looks almost like it has a thin
discolored membrane over it. Its color is dull compared to the healthy
catshark; its body color has changed from gray-silver to gray-purple and
its fin is always down. <Bad signs> This morning I also noticed
that the fin has a white spot and it looks raw and wrinkly. It almost
looks like a fungus. He also stays at the bottom very still and his
eyes are clear. He seems to be breathing quickly. He has been in this
condition for about 4 days. <All easily just symptoms of nitrate
poisoning> I have treated the tank with ich medicine, I changed some
of the water last night (the nitrates are still high). <How high is
that?> Also, I should say that one of the Monos had a sore in its
mouth that I was treating with penicillin (4 days). <Uhh... you need
to fix these fishes environment... too crowded, polluted... they don't
need medicines> Now the treatment has stopped and the sore is not as
bad. So there was some penicillin in the water as well as ich medicine.
The temperature in the tank is 73F, salt water level is 1.002,
<Needs to be higher for the Ariids at this size... remove the Plecos and
raise>> the Ph. 7.2, alkalinity moderate (80), hardness (very hard),
nitrates 160 (still unsafe). <Yikes... very toxic> I should also
mention that about 3 months ago he jumped out of the tank and was on the
floor for about 10-15 minutes before we found him. It took a while to
recover and he was never as perky as before. He kept to the bottom of
the tank most of the time but he was in good overall health. I really
would appreciate your advice. I don't know what to do and it seems to me
that time is running out for my "little" Colombian cat shark. Thanks a
lot for your assistance. Anouk Patel-Campillo <Well, elevating
the salt content (after removing the Loricariids) will forestall nitrate
poisoning for a bit... but these Ariids and Monos need to be in larger
quarters... at least twice this size... and to be exposed to no more
than 20 ppm. nitrate maximum. End of line. Bob Fenner>
Columbian shark size 3/21/06 Hello. I have 2
healthy Columbian sharks living in a 55 gallon tank. They are about one
and a half years old and about 7 inches each. They seem happy and are
doing well. I was just wondering when they stop growing and how big
they will get. I've read in many places that they get to be as big as
14 inches but then some sites say only 6 or 7 inches. Also, do you
think I need a bigger tank? Thanks for the help! >> A friend grew
his to 22" in a 65 gallon tank. They are really not good aquarium fish
because of their size, sadly most pet stores do not even know how large
Colombian Sharks grow. Housing Silvertip (Columbian)
Sharks 2/19/06 <Hi, Pufferpunk here> I have two Silvertip
Sharks (catfish) and I need a bigger tank. I was not smart and put them
in a ten gallon aquarium. <I can't argue with that!>
They are healthy, eat well and have grown to five inches. I have been
using aquarium salt. Does aquarium salt make a tank brackish?
<Nope, for BW you must use marine salt & measure it with a
hydrometer. Start by adding enough salt (premixed) to raise your SG
(specific gravity) .002/weekly water change. As your fish grow, you
will want to raise the SG to marine conditions--around 1.023.> I
have an eighth inch of gravel on the bottom of the tank. They cleared a
corner of the tank clean of the gravel and like to sit there when not
swimming. When I get a bigger tank I want to slowly change them from a
brackish aquarium to marine and want to know what decor is safe to put
with Silvertips. <For BW, I suggest using at least 1" of
crushed coral or aragonite. this will slowly dissolve in the water &
buffer the pH, to keep it steady, around 8.> I searched
everywhere and could not find what decor silvertips get along with in a
brackish water or marine tank. I found out on my own that live plants
die in brackish water. Can they get along with coral or anemones? I do
not want much decor because they need lots of swimming room but I want
something in the tank besides them. <Petsmart makes very
nice fake mangrove roots that emulate the natural environment they live
in. Fake plants, silk or plastic work well. As these fish will
eventually grow up to 18" & like to live in schools, I suggest planning
on a very large tank. I think a school of around 5 of them would be
very impressive in a 90+ gallon tank! ~PP>
Anaerobic
digestion/Denitrator product input, Ariids in FW 1/8/06
Hello WWM crew. <Howdy> I have a few questions I cant seem to
find the answer to. 1.
http://www.aquaripure.com/index.htm this is the link to a filter
that reduces nitrates in the water. Does this filter really work?
<Mmm, "can" but almost always doesn't is the fairest answer... folks
don't keep up with feeding (a source of ready carbon, usually a sugar,
sometimes an alcohol) to these units... and the claim re cutting back on
water changes... fallacious is a nice adverb here> 2. I have a 30
gallon tank with a 1-redtailed barb,1-silver-tipped catfish and a
1-peacock cichlid. I know that the silver-tipped catfish needs to
eventually be in brackish water. Will the silver-tipped catfish live
his/her life span in freshwater conditions? <Mmm, a much
fore-shortened one... the answer, no> 3. In the same tank as
described in question 2, I am running two Marineland Emperor 400
power filters. The entire tank is recycled about 26 times per hour. Is
this too much water current for the fish? <Nope> Thank you,
your time IS greatly appreciated by all <Welcome. Bob Fenner> Help - my fish are stressed... brackish/marine catfishes in FW
12/20/2005 Hi. I have a 55 gallon tank with live plants and
plastic with lots of hiding places as well that has been established for
1.5 years. PH is 7.6 (I have been using Reverse Osmosis distilled water
for 30% water changes weekly) with a Fluval 304 filter system. 3 - 3"
clown loaches, 1 large angel fish, 3 small Bala sharks, 4 pictus cats, 3
small rainbow sharks. Two days ago we purchased 3 small Columbian sharks
and today when I turned on the light it was flopping around upside down
on the bottom of the tank and about five minutes later he <Who, what
is "he"... one of the Colombian Sharks?> was swimming around (albeit
crooked) I can't seem to keep my fish happy. About a month and we
had a sudden spurt of fish dying every day with no signs of sickness.
What else should I be looking for. Thanks for your help. Donna
Wildeboer <Mmm, the so-called sharks are brackish to marine ariid
catfish... Please see here re:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm and the linked FAQs
files above... You will see many folks have been similarly (mis)led. Bob
Fenner>
Freshwater: Mystery Fish, New Tank (Transfer) and the Nitrogen
Cycle 11/30/2005 I have 2 Silvertip Shark (Silvertip tetra)
approx 4"not sure of the exact name, <Well the first name you gave
“silvertip shark” makes me think it is a catfish from the Ariidae
family, which need brackish to marine environments as adults but the
second name you gave “silvertip tetra” leads me to believe it could be a
tetra in the family Tetragonopterinae. But with there size being 4” I
doubts it’s the latter probably the first one I mentioned.> 1 Pictus
Catfish approx 2"and 1 Chinese Algae Eater approx 4", all of them were
doing well in a 30 gallon tank, I moved them all to a 75 gallon tank, I
let the tank "set-up" for approx. 8 - 10 hrs, now only the Algae Eater
is eating, the other 3 are not eating. <Understandable, a tank 8 to
10 hours old is not stable yet. Even if using filter media from the old
tank I doubt it has cycled. Furthermore did you acclimate the fish to
new environment or simply transfer them? They are likely stressed out.>
In the 30 gallon tank the Sharks would attack the flakes that I would
feed them, now they just let the food float and fall to the bottom of
the tank, none of the fish have changed color have spots nor do they
have any visible signs of illness. I had the water tested and it was
fine. tank temp is set at 79 f. I can't figure out the sudden
change in the fish. <I would just give them some time. Offer a small
amount of food maybe once a day, and don’t be surprised if they go on a
hunger strike for even a week or so period. However, in the mean time I
would be testing your water vigorously because I am willing to bet you
show some sub-par readings whether it be ammonia, nitrite or nitrates.
If these are present be prepared to do water changes and perhaps look
into some live bacteria cultures such as BioSpira. Search WWM re:
“freshwater nitrogen cycle.” I’m afraid this transferring of livestock
was to sudden and far to premature. Adam J.> Columbian Shark Needs Friends 4/25/05 <Hi, Pufferpunk
here> I have a question about my aquarium. It is 20 gallons now but
will be upgraded as needed within a year. The only fish in the tank is
one very friendly Columbian shark named Antonio. The poor guy wants a
buddy; I'm sure by the way he follows my finger against the glass. The
problem is if we get another Columbian we won't know who is who. Is
there another catfish or shark species that will keep Antonio company
while the tank slowly shifts to full saltwater? <since Antonio is
actually a schooling species, he would be happiest with more of his same
kind.> Perhaps a mail order outfit is available for
other brackish catsharks? If the only species available are Columbian
sharks, would a molly, orange chromides or similar mid-water community
type fish keep our little Columbian boy company? That is until Antonio
eats this smaller fish! Thank you. <I'm glad you are planning on an
upgrade in tank size & marine conditions. A school of 18" silver sharks
can be quite an impressive sight on their own! Just make sure the tank
is big enough. ~PP> Regarding Iridescent Shark,
jumping into the hobby with both feet, sans even a nose-plug of needed
background 10/4/05 Hello I recently purchased a used 55
gallon fish tank. The previous owner included 2 large Plecos (10in,12in)
an Iridescent shark (8 in) as well as 6 school fish another small bottom
feeder and a Gourami. <... the "shark" is a brackish to marine ariid
catfish> I kept the 3 large fish and gave the rest to a friend.
Since the owner put the fish in a bucket with original water I was
forced to get the water ready and let it run for a day before I put the
fish in. When I brought the tank I changed the rocks and put a heater
in. I guess my first question is should I keep the fish at room
temperature as he did or heat the water to another temperature.
<Please see WWM, fishbase.org or a freshwater aquarium book re each
species... Needs to be thermostatically heated...> If I had any
choice I would not have purchased the shark since I know they grow very
large. My next observation is that the shark will not eat, the owner
gave me shrimp pellets for the shark and freeze dried bloodworms. When I
feed the fish the smaller Pleco eats the pellets up. The shark just
swims right past them and the larger Pleco doesn't eat either unless he
eats when I put the light out. Realizing that I will never know if the
shark is truly eating I put the bloodworm larvae in the tank. It floated
around for an hour and he did not eat it. When I woke up in the morning
the larvae was gone so Im not sure if he consumed it or if it simply
fell or was sucked into the filter. The fish hasn't ate in two days
since I brought it home as far as I know. I wonder if I should maybe
bring him a feeder fish to start his appetite. <... no> The fish
are also giving off long stringy feces. Is this normal? <... depends
on what they've been fed mostly> The smaller Pleco that does eat is
swimming around with one of these strings attached to him. The shark
looks very lively but he has white bubble coverings over his eyes, one
being larger than the other. I am not sure if these are normal
characteristics of this fish. I noticed that none of the fish have Ick
(at least what I believe is Ick, small white spots on the body). I
realize I should have cycled the tank for a few weeks before I put any
fish in but the previous owner left me with no choice. <If you used
old filter media, substrate, likely is/was cycled> I also realize
the tank should have been populated with small hardy fish for a while
after that before I put any bigger fish in. One more thing I noticed is
the water became cloudy a day after I put the fish in. I would greatly
appreciate any advice on how to care for the fish and if the shark will
come around. Thank you Marcin <Please... read on WWM re
FW set-up, maintenance... trade the shark/cat into a store with another
hobbyist with a brackish background, a marine tank to move it to. Bob
Fenner> Randomness (Ariid catfish, brackish maintenance)
Hi again! <Hi Rachael!> Sorry I write you guys all the time, but
it's only because you give the most reliable advice around! I have an
Arius Seemanni that I've written to you about several times and he's
doing good, except that every few days he won't eat, I've tried
everything in the store in regards to fresh food, (nothing live lately
because it's hard to find feeder-type fish that will survive in a marine
aquarium and that aren't in horrible shape like guppies and goldfish.)
Anyhow, I have been feeding him raw shrimp and bay scallops for some
time now and he used to go crazy over them, now he might eat one piece
and then just continue prowling the tank, I have tried frozen krill and
he shows absolutely no interest. Every few days he will just gorge
himself on food and then the next two days he will just pick at it, is
he just full? or is he silently complaining about the food? I know he
needs a lot more variety, but I don't have the money to blend up a whole
batch of vitamins and plants and fresh meat for one little fish, it
would spoil too quickly, so I'm holding out on the big stuff until my
tank cycles fully and I add more fish that will help him clean the plate
(and clean up the mess he makes). He still readily eats flake food, but
I know that's not the best for him so I only use it when I feel
helpless. <Feed less, a little several times a day, only what he will
eat in a few minutes. Net whatever he doesn't eat out of the tank, it's
contributing to your water quality issues. Try freezing your prepared
food blend in ice cube trays and thaw a small portion to feed. It's very
common to overfeed fish and spoil water conditions, which then leads to
more problems.> Ok! the next thing! My tank has had a relatively high
nitrite level for about a week now, (I would normally assume that that's
why the Silver Cat isn't eating, but his boycott of food is
intermittent, so I'm not so sure) But how can I get these levels down?
The ammonia is undetectable, and the PH is perfect, I know all the FAQs
say Nitrobacter can't reproduce well until the ammonia is gone, but is
it normal to take a week or more? I'm just worried about the long-term
effects it might have on the catfish. I have added some live rock (I'm
buying it piece by piece due to my extreme poverty -- that's the life of
a student!) in hopes that it will help bring down the nitrites. The LFS
said that water changes would be fine but really I have to just let this
cycle out...What to do, what to do! <This indicates your tank is
converting ammonia into nitrites. This is very likely contributing to
the stress on your fish. You need to do water changes to keep this under
control!!! It will "cycle out", but it will reach a level unhealthy or
deadly to fish! Also, make sure the rock you add is well cycled.>
The last thing, I promise! I was reading some of your FAQs and I saw
something about salt creep! I was stunned, there is even a name for what
I'm seeing! All I ever see is warnings about not "salting-out" your
fish, but what about all this salt that is getting away!? First of all,
I know it's because of my pump and aerator, but I don't want to remove
the aerator because there is really no other source of oxygen in my
tank, the skimmer doesn't seem to be doing much in the way of
oxygenating, so I didn't really know what to do. I don't like cleaning
the salt all the time but if there's no other way then I'll just deal I
guess! Sorry this email is so long! Thanks for your patience and help!
Sincerely, Rachael <Remove the aerator, they don't do what you think.
They produce slat spray which you see in salt creep. The skimmer
oxygenates just fine. You don't want to see bubbles and they can
actually cause problems. Hope this helps and you're doing well in
school! Craig> Arius catfish - 02/24/03 Hi
there! I Hope everything is well over there! <Hi from Ananda
today... > I'm writing about a Silver-tipped shark I have, it's about
5 inches long, in a 55 gallon tank, is this tank too small at this
point? <For a 5" fish, a 55 gallon tank should be okay for now.>
He isn't really active at all during the day, at night he swims all
around with the smaller silver tip I have, the smaller one however swims
constantly, mostly near the "lair" they share, but he never stops
swimming. They are both living in a full-saltwater tank, I have heard
that as they get older they do best in a brackish to saltwater aquarium
and I was just wondering if this is right? <I have read/heard this
many times.> I guess I just feel that the larger shark is abnormally
lethargic during the day, and I was wondering if it was due to the salt?
<You could try varying the salinity a bit -- if you are at 1.025 now,
see what happens when you drop the specific gravity down to about 1.020.
I would drop the salinity by using less-salty water for water changes.
But go slowly if you have inverts.> All the other fish act normally,
the inverts in the tank are doing great -- the water parameters are
ideal, what could be wrong with this guy, if anything? As he's gotten
larger he's slowed down a lot, when he was little he was very active, so
could it just be part of growing up for him? <It's possible.> Any
thoughts would be helpful! <How much water flow do you have in this
tank? If your filtration doesn't have a lot of turnover, I'd consider
adding a powerhead or two on one end of the tank, pointing at the other
end of the tank. These fish are reported to like current.> thanks so
much, have fun today! Rachael <You're welcome. --Ananda>
White tipped Shark Catfish/Columbian Sharks? Hi, I was just
wondering exactly how long these catfish should be kept in freshwater
conditions. Currently our 2 are each an inch and a half long and living
in a freshwater tank 75g with small amounts of aquarium salt added for
general health. At what size do we need to slowly adjust them to a
saltwater tank? (How long can we keep our little guys as I do not plan
on getting a separate Salt water tank?) Thanks, Andy
<Actually, unless the source water is quite hard and alkaline, this
species should never be kept in straight freshwater... it's a brackish
to marine species. Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm It can be kept in
minimally (spg 1.005) to about full strength (spg 1.010) brackish water
for years, but is better off in near seawater (spg 1.025) water when a
few to several inches in length. Bob Fenner> Columbian (Silver-Tipped) Shark 7/1/05 Hi, <Hi,
Pufferpunk here> Sorry to ask a question with an answer that may be
obvious to some but it's necessary. I have been reading your site and
it's definitely helpful, although I am still a bit confused on the right
road for these "sharks". Mine (two of them) are around 5" in length,
and they just moved (as in TODAY) from a 10-gallon to a 55-gallon.
<Much better!> Now, before you yell at me, I have to defend myself
by telling you that I bought them on a whim at Wal-Mart and had no idea
that they'd get so big. <Research before buying next
time but I guess I don't have to tell you that now.> So, since I was
waiting on a hand-me-down 55 from my friend, the sharks resided in a
way-too-small 10. In this 10-gallon, they were starting to get very
uncomfortable, I know and swam weird patterns, I suspect because they
were so big and didn't have hardly any swimming space. Now that they're
moved, they don't seem to be happier.. I read about fish coming from
tanks too small that hang on the bottom for a while or maybe it's the
relocation that has them confused. They seemed to be swimming more as
of a minute ago but they were just lying on the bottom together, looking
out the front. <Maybe they were franticly looking for
more swimming room in the smaller tank. Now that they have the room,
they can take the well-deserved rest.> I should also comment on
their water. As these were fish-whims, they were always in freshwater
with regular aquarium salt and up until a few months ago I had no idea
they were supposed to be transitioned to brackish or saltwater. I guess
my question is, after you hopefully give some answers to the questions
posed already in this run-on query, are they supposed to END UP brackish
or completely saltwater? I have read that you are supposed to "slowly
add more salt" but for a 55-gallon, how much and how often?
<You'll need marine salt & a hydrometer to measure it. Start raising
the SG (specific gravity, measured by a hydrometer), .002/weekly water
change, until you reach around 1.010-12. Eventually, as they grow to
14-18", they will need a much bigger tank & marine conditions
(1.020-24). You should premix the salt in a bucket, before
adding. It'll take some math to figure all this out.> Also, can
other types of sharks live in this water, whatever it ends up?
<The sharks you have, are the only BW "sharks". Since they are actually
schooling fish, more sharks would be welcome but you are talking about
eventually a huge (50g ea) tank! I'm sorry these fish are even sold at
most LFS, as there are very few folks willing to house these fish
properly for life. Most will die a slow, miserable, stunted death...>
The person at the pet store told me that any semi-aggressive can go with
any other semi-aggressive and I'm guessing that's not the case.
<These fish are not aggressive at all but are predatory & will eat
anything they can fit into their mouths. They are constantly on the
move (most of the time), so they cannot be housed with mellow, shy,
slow-moving fish--the sharks will stress them out & outcompete them for
food.> Should I choose tankmates, if I upgrade to a bigger tank,
based on water as well as compatibility? <Yes, pick BW fish that
will eventually transition to SW as adults. More of the same species
sharks & scats would work well, but again, figure eventually needing
50g/fish. A school of these sharks can be quite impressive! ~PP>
Thanks, Kate Arius advice Hi my name is Doug ,could you
please give me some advice .I have a 6x2x2 tank and at the moment have
got 3 Arius seemanni 1 at 6" and 2 at 5". <Be careful with these
marine catfishes... you likely know they can be painfully venomous...
Please read: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm> I have the
chance to buy 2 more at 6/7".ive been told that they will not reach a
foot in length so 5 Arius in the tank would be ok ,but I've seen a few
mailings on the web tonight of people having Arius of 14" .obviously if
they grow over a foot I will just keep the three as the fishes
well-being is most important thanks <They grow slowly as they
approach maximum lengths... Having five in this size, volume system
should pose no difficulties. Bob Fenner> Catfish Problems
Hi, I've been reading the FAQ's and you all are great. I have just a
quick question. I'm pretty sure I know the answer but want to make sure.
Yesterday I adopted some fish, lady was going to flush if she had to, 8
fish. 3 young rainbow sharks, all under 3". These I know I have to
separate. Well she also gave me 5 Arius seemanni. Ranging from about 4"
to about 7". I do not have a marine tank to house them in, and they have
been living fw with low salinity for a while now. I'm quite sure I need
to place these fish elsewhere, but wanted to make sure that was my only
option. <this fish may live for many years in an appropriately sized
tank (large) in brackish water> If it is, can you recommend a true fw
catfish that's active and will do well in an alkaline tank (its my
African. cichlid tank). Thanks for all the help <the problem with
catfish and African cichlids is as much finding a species of cat that is
tough enough for their aggression. Not many natural choices. However,
various Synodontis species (not all but many) will fare well. Popular
choices include the featherfin, lace, angelicus, schoutedeni species.
Really many more... do review the members of this genus. Best regards,
Anthony> Re: Catfish Problems Thank you for the advice.
I will be placing the A. seemanni, as I do not have anywhere for a large
enough tank for them to be happy in. And I think the Angelicus will do
well with my Africans. Thanks again:) <always welcome my friend! And
a fine choice with the Synodontis angelicus... a magnificent catfish!
Anthony> Brackish to Marine Hi, I have three A.
seemanni (sp?) <Hmm, an old (nomen nudum) name still in use by some.
See here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ariidcats.htm and here on fishbase:
> sharks and I would like to place them into my marine tank. The
Sharks are in a salinity of 1.01 and the marine is at 1.20-23. both ph
and temp. are the same. Would I just raise the sharks up to the marine?
Or lower marine tank slightly and raise the sharks up slightly?
<Slowly... should be done over a period of about a month (or more) to
limit stress, damage (mainly to kidneys)...> One is about 8" and the
other two are about 6". Are they too old to be full marine now. <S/b
fine> I had a bad experience about a two years ago trying to get some
to full marine and they were about 12" and the salinity was raised over
a period of about 8 weeks. They seem to be ok and all tests were fine
but with the last increase They started to die. just stopped breathing.
<Bizarre... and frightening.> I saved one out of 5 by placing them
into a fresh water tank. So I am very unsure if I should even try with
these. They would have a lot larger area to swim if I could move them.
Thanks for any suggestions. Robyn <Do take it slow... and keep a
close eye on them. Bob Fenner> New Tank Stocking Hi I
need a little information, if you don't mind. <It would be my
pleasure.> I have a 10 gall tank, with 2 Arius seemanni, when I
bought them they called them high bull fin sharks. <Call them what
you want, these fellas are monsters. Check out fishbase.org, search for
Tete sea catfish for more information on these fish. I'd take them back
to the store and slap the guy who sold them to you to put in a 10 gallon
tank. They will grow to be around 13 inches.> I have tropical fish
pellets, 2 red tetras, and a bottom feeder. I am confused on what to do
for these fish. I am reading that they are really salt water fish and
they eat live food and will eat others in the tank. <If your tetras
start disappearing, you will know why.> I also am not sure about what
kind of tank I need, what about ph and what about mouth brooder what is
all of this? <pH 6.0-8.0, brackish water would be best for long term
health. Mouth brooders rear their young in their mouth.> I am a
beginner and in need of help. I have had these fish for 3 hours and I
am feeling as if I am way in over my head. <I would reconsider these
catfish they are going to need a much larger tank, and brackish
water. There are some delightful tetras out there, maybe offer a trade
at the store you purchased them from. I love my black neon tetras.>
Also I am wondering what could be wrong with one of these seemannis it
has a swollen belly does that mean it is pregnant or has eggs??
<Probably not. Missing any tetras?> Thank you so much if you take
the time to answer these questions. <No problem, we have a ton of
good reading out our site, I'd recommend starting at the link
below. Best Regards, Gage
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwset-up.htm >
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