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Small tank lighting  08/14/2008
Hi :-)
<<Good afternoon, Andrew today>>
I had written earlier regarding a small tank setup but forgot to ask about lighting.
Tank dimensions are 30L x 20W x 16H (all in inches).
<<41 gallon>>
Inhabitants I intend to keep are;
Fish - 5-7 reef chromis, 1 firefish, 1 psychedelic mandarin.
<<Afraid not, tank far too small to house all these fish. No problem with the firefish. Chromis are better in large schools like 7 or more, a tank this size, you would have 3 max...Mandarin, would not add until tank is very mature with a LARGE refugium for copepod production. If it was me, I would not house a mandarin in a tank that size, so, I will not recommend it here>>
Inverts- 2 cleaner shrimp, snails, Zoanthids & Palythoa (theme), shrooms, 1 moon coral.
<<No prob.s with the coral selection / inverts>>
I was wondering about these 2 light schemes
<<Ok>>
A) 2 x 150 watt MH.
B) 6 x 36watt PL/CFL and 2x20watt T5 actinic.
Which one would you suggest and why?
<<I would always suggest metal halides if budget allows. They provide a nice powerful light and with halides, you remove quite a lot boundaries which are there with PC lighting>>
Cheers
Ranjith
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>

Re: Small tank lighting follow-up 08/14/2008
I was going through the website faqs for this before I wrote in.
Some of the crew suggests 2x 150W halides and some say 2 x 36watt PC.
This is for the same size (or very very close) tank and Inverts that are not much different in their light demand to justify this wide range of difference.
What gives???
<<All depends on what is going to housed in the tank. Most, me included, will suggest metal halides for a reef as your getting a nice bright / powerful light which has less boundaries that PC lighting. The two lighting systems you mentioned above, do not even compare in my opinion, metal halide is the far better system...Regards. A Nixon>>

Reef Lighting - Would like to purchase new bulbs 8/1/08 - need help.
Reef Lighting 8/1/08
Guys:
<And gals!>
I am rounding the corner to understanding the last frontier of reef tanks for me - since I've made most mistakes that could be made (except overstocking, compatibility and not waiting for cycling),
<The most common mistakes.>
in the last 18 months (despite months of beforehand reading), and I am now making a genuine effort to understand reef lighting, now that I think I've got my flow problems solved (the second to the last frontier for me).
I know, I know, lighting (and flow) should have been first in my understanding, but it just seemed too complex and controversial for me to tackle then. I have the time and money wasted to prove it.
<Trust me, we all have the time and money to show! Lighting and flow can be changed after the fact, tank, stand and drains should be the first consideration. These require tearing down the whole system to change. What you are going through is the natural evolution of reefkeeping.>
Now that my bulbs needs changing (overdue actually) - I've stepped up my efforts to get lighting right this time (and not just listen to the fish store people). <!> I think I understand all the facts of light (though not the nuances) and am ready to purchase new bulbs.
<OK>
However, since lighting is most expensive, I just flat out want your opinion on what to do for my specific wants and needs, tank size and inhabitants.
What lighting is best for a 26 gallon bow front reef tank?
<Depends.>
My current light is a 24" Nova Extreme T-5 HO 10,000K daylight with actinics and moonlights - but for a total of only 96 watts, daylights and actinics included!
<This ratio can be changed by swapping bulbs, if you are ok with the look.>
Now that I better understand lighting (I think), it seems to me that there is little wonder I have had very little success with most corals (when all other factors are controlled for). This seems like very minimal light - all things considered. Am I correct?
<Really depends on what you want to keep. Lack of success in such a small system starting out could very well be due to instability rather than just lighting.>
At 8 wpg - it seems that I should have at least an approximate total of 200w. Or would 6 wpg be better (150W)? I've even heard up to 10 wpg (250W)! All I know now, is I have about 3 wpg and they are old (as bulbs go).
<WPG is a poor measure of lighting. In a small tank like this you can in many cases get away with less due to the fact that your corals will inherently be close to the light.>
Welcome nuisance algae (even when all other factors are controlled for).
<Another common hazard in small systems, but large systems as well.>
I do not have room for a chiller (unless I get one of the nano hang-on-tank ones (that got surprisingly good user reviews), so it looks like metal halide is out of the question for now, at least.
<Without a chiller, likely is out of the question.>
So, I guess I'll stick with fluorescents that go in my current fixture, but I REALLY want to achieve the crisp shimmery look, with a bright white light with slight purplish color (rather than the bluer look) that I see in some tanks on the web and in stores.
<I love this effect, but have also grown tired of it in time. The overall power savings of T5s now have me enamored. LEDs provide both, with a huge upfront cost!>
I absolutely do not prefer yellows, which accentuate any flaw in the tank, such as the seemingly obligatory occasional spot of Cyano or green algae. Seems to me not only is the crisp white-purple appealing to the eye, but it also hides the drabber colors in an aquarium - something I wish to do, at least until I get a tank full of colorful corals. I've had it with the grey-greens!
I need enough watts to grow a mixed reef - but not "fry" my 2 false perculas and green chromis damsel with the intensity or heat (or my detritivores, for that matter). This is just about all that is in the tank, save a few zoo frags and a finger leather frag.
<You will not want to mix too much diversity in such confines.>
Can you tell me what 4 bulb combination to use (that can be accommodated by my current fixture), so far as the Kelvin rating, the wattage, variety, intensity and spectrum of each bulb to achieve the visual effect I want as described above? (I hear there are different ranges of blues and purples in actinic bulbs, to further confuse me.)
<If you are looking for a very blue hue you will want two true actinic 03 bulbs, peaking between 420 to 430 nanometers. The balance will be 10000K daylight bulbs. But, for more useable light for corals, I would recommend going with a single actinic, placed in the front of the fixture, with three daylight bulbs. You will actually be able to keep quite a variety of corals with this.>
Obviously, I want the best prospect of succeeding with a varied range of corals, and heat reduction without having to use a chiller, but still be able to achieve that bright white-purply shimmery effect.
<At most I would consider adding a bulb or two to your current setup.>
Is this possible with the type of bulbs my fixture takes and under which different varieties of corals can survive/thrive (softies, stonies, etc.). Your recommending a photo cycle will be helpful also.
<It is possible to achieve a happy balance, but I would not keep both soft corals and SPS/LPS in such a system. Photo period will need to be 12 hours a day.>
P.S. Just got Bob's book and love it - read it all in one night!
<A fellow addict!>
Should have had it from the beginning, instead of having stacks and stacks of internet articles.
<Some of the internet resources, particularly those from WWM are great.>
Bob covers it all in one place. Too bad he did not directly address a 26g bow front reef with a white-purplish shimmery effect. LOL
<I had the same problem years ago ? The book really is an invaluable resource.>
Thanks! Again!
<Very welcome.>
Aleasha Baltimore, MD
<Scott V., Fresno, CA.>

20 gallon nano lighting question 7/23/08
Hello Crew,
<Eric>
I have a really quick question:
I am in the planning stages of setting up a 20 gallon (30 inch long style) tank that I intend to make into a reef setup. Most of my questions and planning are answered/complete/figured out, however I'm stuck on the lighting issue. I'm debating between 2 light fixtures. They're both made by the same manufacturer and are essentially the same, however the wattage is different. The first has 65 watts of PC lighting, and the second has 130 watts. I would rather go with the lower light because it'll be less difficult to manage algae/less concern for waste heat... cheaper fixture, but none of the above are 'deal breakers'. What is a deal breaker is the following:
As for inhabitants: One small fish, some inverts, 15 lbs live rock, and Corals/Polyps: I really like LPS coral ( I know I need to keep them spread out.. I'll probably have 3-4 total.. one in the very western side, 2 in the middle, and one on the east side, all evenly spaced out.) I'm thinking of Bubble/Frogspawn/Torch/Hammer/those types of LPS, or maybe something like Pulsing Xenia switched in.
For this, what lighting do you suggest?
<I would opt for the 130 watt light. These corals are not as light hungry as say SPS, but will appreciate the extra intensity over the 65 watt fixture. A 65 watt PC will typically be a 50/50 daylight/actinic bulb, leaving you with only 30 watts or so of daylight (the light that counts!). Also, you can switch one bulb off if you need to or want to run just one bulb.>
Thanks a TON, as always.
Eric
<Welcome, have fun, Scott V.>

Re: 20 gallon nano lighting question 7/24/08
Scott,
<Hello again Eric.>
Thank you for the excellent answer. That's a great idea about increasing flexibility with the light fixture. I never thought to just remove one of the bulbs if necessary. Now lets say, for example, that I want to change out my LPS corals and change them out for SPS, would this lighting be sufficient?
<Yes, in a 20 gallon you can quite successfully keep SPS with this lighting. You will want to run one daylight bulb and likely make the other bulb a 50/50 actinic/daylight to get the most usable light for the SPS.>
Also, should the light fixture be raised above the tank at all?
<An inch or two for air circulation. If you have heat issues down the road I recommend picking up a little fan to blow between the fixture and the tank rather than raising the fixture any higher.>
Again, thank you so very much.
Eric
<Welcome, have fun, Scott V.>

Re: 20 gallon nano lighting question 7/28/08
Thanks again for the excellent answers.
<Welcome, thank you.>
I have another.. of course.
Do you think a 96 watt, 24 inch T-5 fixture would be better for this tank?
<I almost always pick T5 over PC, but in this case I would stick with the PC if it were me. The reason being that T5’s have a real advantage in that they can run the entire length of a tank without needing to stagger the bulbs to get even coverage. With PC bulbs you usually need to add extra bulbs and stagger them to get the same coverage, ending up with much more wattage. The 65 watt PC bulbs fit your tank nicely. Granted you will have a bit of a power savings with the T5, but also consider bulb replacement. Say $16 X 4 for the T5 or $20 X 2 for the PC. Reality is either will work fine, this is just my long winded two cents! The deal you can find on either fixture may help you decide too.>
Thank you again,
Eric
<Welcome, regards, Scott V.>

Lighting Fixture Height 7/17/08
Hello there,
<Stephen.>
I know you are super busy so I will keep this brief. I have a 12 gallon AP and I have a 24” Coralife pro 150w MH with radium HQI DE, along with dual 65w 03 actinics and 2, 1 watt moonlights. I currently keep two SPS, but mostly acans, Favias, micros and a few hammers scattered around the tank.
<Quite a bit in a 12!>
The light is 23 inches from the bulb to the bottom of the tank. Should I drop the light? If so what would you suggest? The corals are big, puffy and open all the time, but the colors are a bit dull during the day, under the actinic and the moonlights they really pop. I was thinking maybe the light was too bright for the corals and they are dulling? Oh yeah its 20K MH.
<Lowering the light will also increase the amount of heat the fixture imparts into the tank. This can be very problematic on a tank this size. You can definitely try lowering, I would go a few inches at most, and keep an eye on your temperature.>
I saw another tank that had a 150 on it (SunPod ) and those are default 3 inches from the top of the tank. Is that where it should be?
<Too close to the tank for my taste. Too much heat and too likely for the fixture’s glass/bulb to be splashed while hot. If a lid is on the thing while the fixture is that low, watch the heat soar.>
I know a lot depends on tank inhabitants, but I was trying to keep this brief. That just seems so low with such a bright light. Please let me know.
Last but not least..
People are telling me I should lose the actinic.
<Why? You have just stated the actinics give you the look you like, keep them!>
However, no one can tell me if dual 65w actinic 03 are more, less or equal to 24 inch 24 watt t5’s super actinics. I don’t want to rip apart my 400 dollar fixture to achieve nothing. Can you make me decide?
<Use which ever one you have right now. You will not notice a large appreciable difference from one to another.>
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Stephen
<Welcome, Scott V.>

<Sm.> Coral tank lighting 06/06/2008
Hello I have a few questions about a coral/reef tank that I am starting up.
First I would like to hear what you have to say about my lighting on the tank.
The tank is only a 20 gallon long. So there is not much height only 12 inches high.
I have a 65 watt 12,000k daylight and a 65 watt Blue actinic.
But the light is another 3 1/2 inches higher because it is on legs.
<No worries... better to be this height for dispersion, avoiding splash and spray>
Right now I only have 2 Ricordea Yumas in the tank because I just set it up.
<Good choices>
I guess what I'm getting at here is if that is to much light?
<No... not too much>
The corals
<Actually, Corallimorphs... not true corals>
are 15 1/2 inches away from the light at the bottom of the tank. I could move the light up another 4 inches if needed.
But the setup I have right now seems perfect to me because the Ricordeas do not seem affected by the light and I would love to start getting into some LPS and SPS corals
<Mmm, not likely the last group... most are unsuitable in such small, unstable settings as yours. Trying some small frags is suggested... that have been "selected" through aquarium keeping/culture>
and get away from these softies.
And from what I'm reading soft corals need the less light, then LPS, and finally SPS need the most?
Please give me all your advice on my situation.
Thanks Rick
<Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/index.htm
Scroll down... the areas on Small Marine Systems... esp. my article on Tom Walsh's 20 gal. systems. Bob Fenner>

12 Gallon nano and LEDs   2/6/08
First I want to be the ten zillionth person to thank everyone involved with this website. It has been a priceless resource. (If Mr. Fenner or Mr. Calfo respond to this question I'm grateful for all that you have done for our hobby and for your literature? several of your books permanently reside on my nightstand!) Now, on to the business? I have been in the hobby/cult for over three years. I initially set up a 12 gallon Nano Cube DX due to necessity (college dorm room) and finances (college). To say the least, I learned quickly that I was embarking on a challenging task of maintaining a nano reef. Well, after extensive research, heartaches, headaches, many expletives, and the installation of a 4 gallon refugium, I had a thriving system. Then after a year and a half, everything in my tank died? well everything but my pair of ocellaris clowns. All my inverts, corals, and macroalgae gone
<Almost a universal experience, re-experience with these small systems... Yours "lasted" far longer than any measure of central tendency>
and I couldn't figure out why. After two weeks, and what I thought was a power outage, I found the root of my demise? a broken glass heater that had been broken for at least a few weeks prior to its discovery (all of the metal (copper) internals were missing (dissolved?).
<Yikes!>
I tried to revive my tank but my efforts were fruitless. &#61516; I disassembled my system, gave away my clowns, and packed away my hopes of having a successful reef system along with my nano cube.
Well, after a year and a half of having this huge void in my life (yeah? it was that bad), I have decided to setup my nano reef again. Well, I'm now in graduate school and really not in any better situation than I was three years ago financially? so I'm setting up my 12 gal Nano Cube again? I keep telling myself that I am going to do it ?right? this time. My ultimate goal of this system is to have a pair of clowns and some easy corals. The tank is currently sitting empty awaiting a fresh shipment of Marshall live rock. I have made many mod.s to the 12 gallon tank to better meet the needs of a reef... I have already made and installed DIY 9 gallon upstream style refugium. The only aspect that I haven't flirted with is the lighting (the current system includes two 24 watt 50/50 PCs)? I have a surplus of 24W PC lights that are around 10 to 14 months old and am in the market for new lights (which by the time I pay shipping usually runs close to $50 bucks a year). I don't want to opt of a HQI or MH fixture for monetary reasons plus I like having a full canopy over my tank. My local fish guru is currently designing LED light systems that he has measured to compare with metal halides but his systems utilize at least 25 or so LEDs per unit and costs well it makes me shiver just trying to type it! This got me thinking and researching like it was the day before a thesis paper was due. I have found that I can make a DIY 12 watt LED system that will fit in the existing canopy of my tank and save me money (assuming I can get 50,000 hours of useful life from the LEDs). This will be made up of twelve 1-watt LEDs at 50 to 60 lumens each. From my research, I think I should install ten 1 watt 10K white LEDs and two 460nm blue as well as an additional 1 watt 460nm moonlight that will be on continuously. So the final ratio of white to blue is almost 3:1. I know there are mixed feelings about LED lighting and that there are a lot of other external factors that will determine if this would be adequate. I plan on eventually having a few corals such as pulsing xenia, star polyps, maybe an anemone
<Mmmm, if so... a cloned Entacmaea>
for my ocellaris clown (if an anemone exists that would survive in a nano? any suggestions?),
<See WWM>
and maybe some Ricordea. After all of this ... would this scheme of LEDs (or any scheme involving 12 1-watt LEDs) be sufficient for the proposed corals in my 12 gallon nano?
<Mmm, can be made to work>
Also, would this LED design be adequate to produce and sustain coralline algae growth?
<This rhodophyte groups species get by on far less light than photosynthetic Cnidarians>
Again I can't thank you guys enough at WetWebMedia for your hard work, patience, and dedication to this exciting passion of ours.
Sincerely,
Matthew Weekley
<Glad to share. Bob Fenner>

20 gal long reef lighting 12/25/07
I have a 20 gal long reef tank that I’m slowly stocking (due to cash flow). I have on there a 24" Sunpaq 65 watt 10,000k 460 actinic power compact. I only have some orange Ricordea, GSPs and some zoos. All are doing well and reproducing. I was just recently given a finger leather as a gift and was wandering if my lighting was adequate for the leather and what my limits are coral wise with the 65 watts.
<Fairly limited selection given the tank size and addition of the leather.>
I was told by my LFS that it would be plenty of light for softies and some LPS, especially since the tank is so shallow (12 inches before substrate).
Just wandering if I was completely mislead or would be ok with those corals.
<I would change the bulb for a full 10k bulb, perhaps add another bulb.>
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, hope I provided enough info for you to reply.
Thank you, Jeremy
<Welcome, perhaps check out the FAQ’s regarding Alcyoniid systems and compatibility, Scott V.>

T5 lighting, small SW reef...
Hi Crew!
<Trenton>
Thanks for your site!
<Welcome>
My question is about T5 lighting. I have a 29 gallon with about 20lbs live rock, a Percula Clown, Yellowtail Damsel, and various snails and hermits.
Right now I have just the stock light that came with the tank, but would like to be able to keep some soft corals - the guy down at the LFS is recommending a 36w T5 Corallife with 10,000k and actinic bulbs. Would this be adequate, or would two of these fixtures be better?
<Mmm, more light, not as much actinic. Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/lighting/actinicfaqs.htm>
Or would I be better off just getting the 130w T8 fixtures and dealing with the extra heat? Sure wish they'd list lights a more quantifiable way than watts!
Thanks much!
Trenton
<Actually... to skip ahead, you'd be much better off (and so would your livestock) in reading a bit more, getting a larger system period. Bob Fenner>

Viper 75 or 150W MH Clamp lamp... another small reef
Hi there,
<Javier>
I have the 24gal nano cube. It has been up and running for 3 months... I have couple of corals (hammer, torch, xenia, mushrooms, Zoos, green bubble, leather, coco worms)
<Not all "corals">
a clownfish and 2 Chromis... I would like to add a Tridacna clam and 2 or 3 small SPS frags, but I know I need more light..
<And more space really>
I have the 72 watts PC light.. so my question is should I get the viper 75W or 150 W ..
<Mmm, either one could do... I would opt for the smaller wattage... myself here... as your system is so small... to prevent other iatrogenic/"self-induced" troubles>
I do not want to kill my corals. I know temp might be a problem.. so I will get a chiller when summer comes.. Also.. should I get an extra powerhead for my tank.. I know SPS need a lot of light and water movement... I was thinking the MJ 1200.. Thanks in advance for your help...
Javier
<... Do you have room for a larger set-up? I fear that by encouraging you to continue with this small set-up, your chances of success are small, and conversely, the likelihood of a dunning error too large. I'd start again with a bigger tank. Bob Fenner>

Other lighting options, small SW  9/13/07
Hi,
<Hello>
I was reading the FAQs under the lighting section and then did some web surfing for full spectrum lights. The reason is I have become quite interested with zoanthids. I gave away some of my fast growing Xenia and was in turn given frags of zoanthid although I had previously said it was not necessary. I have since added to that collection in a 3.5 gallon pico tank. But under the 40W 50/50 lights most are losing color and most are stretching for more light.
<Maybe>
Not to go into tons of detail but I plan to move them to my 10 gallon tank. Unfortunately this tank sits under a cabinet leaving very little maneuvering room for lights or anything else I need to do. It has an 80W 50/50 PC on it now. Finding most pictures of colorful zoanthids were housed under metal halide I was thinking of getting the Viper 70W HQI but reviews showed many people not pleased with it. I really liked the idea of a clamp lamp that I could maneuver to and away from the tank much easier. So after reading the FAQs here I found the site for Full Spectrum Solutions. They do list the specs on their lights. They have what they call their BlueMax 42W CFL. "Replaces 200W bulb; CRI: 94+; Kelvin: 5900; Lumens: 2400" They also have a lamp rated at 70W stating: Full spectrum lamp at 96 CRI. ...producing 10,000 lux at 18" and 5,000 lux at 28". Produces 4,300 lumens" The replacement bulb is actually a square pin tube type bulb to be used in their lamps only. Based on the specs they give would either of these lighting options be good options for a small aquarium?
<They might work... the latter better than the former>
Have you ever heard of these or the company... possibly from someone else? The specs run pretty close the Vita-Lite information posted under the FAQs. Thanks. Debbie
<I have not had these products, nor met representatives from the company... but if the values stated are accurate... Bob Fenner>

T5 Lighting For A 20-Gallon Nano With “Moderate?” Lighting Requirements – 08/05/07
I am planning a nano reef in a 20-gallon long (30" long, 12" wide, 12"
high). The corals I would like to keep are mostly low to moderate light (mushrooms, zoos, LPS, Montipora)
<<A quite noxious mix in such a small volume of water…>>
and are currently in my 125 under PC lights. I am interested in retrofitting 24w T5's into a canopy, but am unsure how many I should use.
<<Mmm, my preference is metal halide for most any setup, but I also think the T5s are a good choice here/for this tank. I would place at least four bulbs, more if there is room. Different bulb configurations can make this setup quite versatile>>
I want lighting that will sustain the corals I have in mind and also that will make the tank look bright and crisp.
<<75-percent 10,000K bulbs and 25-percent Actinic bulbs>>
I never felt like my big tank had a bright enough look under the PC's.
<<Indeed, just not enough “punch”…though you might be surprised at what a difference T5s would make here as well>>
I recently saw a 19" deep tank under 4x54W T5 and it looked great - that's about the bright look I'm hoping for. Would 2x24W be enough to do what I'm looking for? Or should I go for 3? 4?
<<Four bulbs I think…three 10,000K bulbs and one Actinic bulb at this wattage should work well here in my opinion. You could even experiment with swapping out a couple of the 10,000K bulbs for 20,000K bulbs (i.e. – 2ea. 20,000K, 1ea. 10,000K, 1ea. Actinic) for a more “deep water” look…but be cautious about adding any more Actinic bulbs. These may look nice to your/my eye but do little for the corals themselves>>
Thanks for any help you can give.
<<Hope you find it useful. EricR>>

Re: T5 Lighting For A 20-Gallon Nano With “Moderate?” Lighting Requirements - 08/06/07
Thank you for the quick and helpful response!
<<A pleasure to assist>>
If mushrooms, zoos, LPS, Montis are a noxious mix for this small tank, perhaps I need to leave some of them out - which of these would be most problematic?
<<Hmm...you don’t state which species of LPS corals you plan to keep but speaking in generalities, the Corallimorphs and Zoanthids are your worst offenders/most problematic here. Regards, EricR>>

Nano Tank Lighting - 7/20/07
Good Afternoon Crew,
<Eric>
I currently have a 20 gal high FOWLR system and am looking to add a few corals. I'm thinking of a few Button Polyps "zoo's" and maybe Xenia.
The tank is 20gal high, w/ Florescent bulb (included w/ tank, and I'm upgrading).
Aquaclear filter rated for 30 gal tanks
15 lbs live rock
Maxi-Jet 600 powerhead
Fission Nano Skimmer (upgrading as well)
1 False Perc.
1 Fire fish
1 Algae Blenny.
<Misplaced here... these species need more room>
All water parameters are (and have been) excellent. Nitrite, Nitrate, Ammonia, all zero. SG is 1.025, Ph 8.0.
I have two main questions: I was in the LFS recently and saw you can buy bulbs (obviously)... I only have room for one bulb, and was thinking of purchasing a Coralife bulb that was a "50-50 mix"-- 50 % daylight and 50% actinic. It's only !
20 watts. Will this be sufficient lighting for the corals I am planning on adding?
<Mmm, no... and pardon my penchant for this, but the Polyps, Zoanthids are not really corals...>
I have been reading (maybe you can suggest specific areas?) on your site but am becoming more and more confused. Also, other suggestions for "add on" bulbs? Such as the 6000k? (I know, that's vague)
<Sure, see here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marsetupindex2.htm
The tray at the bottom>
My next question is in regard to the protein skimmer. I first would like to say that I don't like the Nano Fission, and am thinking of upgrading to a Berlin Airlift 60. Will this be sufficient for my tank? I have looked for this specific product here and have found that there are reviews of other Berlin products, most of which are indeed favorable, but I have only found one or two on this product specifically.
<Should be fine>
My last question is in regard to fish: I would like to add a second Perc. Clown. The first is only a bit longer than 1inch. Should I buy one who's a little bigger or a little smaller? I think a larger one would be better, but any advice would be great!
<Could be trouble behaviorally with this addition... but starting with a much smaller (tank-raised) individual is the route to go>
Thanks!
Eric
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

CF Lighting, RBTA and the mini-reef   7/10/07
Hello,
<Saludo>
Thanks to you all for such a resource as you offer, it is a credit to the hobby!
My question deals with very specific "in's and out's" of lighting a mini reef. I apologize to the poor soul who answers these questions, but perhaps it would help clear up confusion to many other people.
<Well, okay!>
I find the 3 to 5 watts per gallon rule to be terribly out-dated as that is too little light for very tall tanks, and a needless expense for very shallow tanks. My last lighting fixture just blew, and I'm in the market for a new one ASAP. Before I buy, I wanted to ask a few questions...
1) Has a system been developed that uses the measurement of inches of water depth to the amount of watts required?
<Mmm, no... too many other factors involved... e.g. the distance of lamps from the water surface, the use of useful reflectors, reflecting material in the hood... These alone can negate the utility...>
Loosely running the numbers, it seems that 8 to 10 watts per inch of water depth would be a better measurement of wattage needed( but then again, I'm the one asking for advice, so please don't take mine!) These are numbers I've derived by reading the suggestions on this site and others.
<Okay>
2) I have a 30g long tank with a DSB which means I have a water depth of 12 inches. I have a tank of soft corals right now, but I have the opportunity to have an RBTA
<... problematical to mix with other Classes, Orders of Cnidarians...>
( my tank is very stable, has been running for 4 years, has a 10g refugium with a 6 inch DSB, a good skimmer and this would be the only anemone I keep. All test parameters have been excellent for a year or two without incident). Would 6 watts per gallon of CF lighting at a maximum depth of 12 inches be enough for the RBTA? (back in 1987 I had a large long tentacle anemone I kept alive over a year until I had to move, not a small feat with the lighting of the time)
<... let's finish this right here... Your system is too small, the mix of present livestock trouble...>
3) (Most Important question) Does Kelvin rating play a huge role in the care of RBTAs/Soft Corals husbandry?
<Can, yes>
I've seen varying suggestions from 6500K all the way up to 20,000K for the RBTA, while many agree that soft corals adjust and thrive under most lighting situations.
<I agree>
4) And finally, please correct me if my thinking is in error, but higher wattage Compact Fluorescent Lighting doesn't mean more light intensity, it only means it's a longer bulb.
<Uhh, no. Get a PAR or other light measuring meter and see for yourself>
Roughly, I see that CF lighting provides 3 watts per linear inch per bulb (34 inch bulbs are 96 watt, 21 inch bulbs are 65 watts and 18 inch bulbs are 55 watts) Given that the light would be positioned directly above the coral/anemone in any scenario, a 192 watt, double bulb fixture and a 130 watt double bulb fixture would provide the animal with virtually the same light intensity?
<No>
Sorry for that question, it's splitting hairs I realize, but I see people offer advice on 23 inch high tanks with 220 watts of CF and call it good, where as 130 watts of CF on a tank of 13 inches in height is seen as lacking. If you crunch the numbers you see that the 130 watt, 13 inch high tank is actually slightly better illuminated. Just an observation from a guy on his day off with nothing better to do....
I would kind of understand if you chose not to answer these questions, but I hope you will. I searched the site and couldn't find the answers. Thank you so much for your time!
Mike
<Mmm, please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Lighting for 20gal tank, BTA...   6/20/07
Excellent site, I get great info here all the time.
I have a CoraLife 130w (2x65w) compact fluorescent light on my 20 gal tank. The bulbs are getting old and I need to replace them. There is currently a 10000K and actinic bulb in the hood. I run the lighting currently as 2 hours of actinic, 8 hours of both and then 2 hours of actinic again before going to lunar lights overnight.
<A good routine>
I have a bubble tip anemone
<Misplaced here... needs much more room...>
and a pipe organ frag in the tank along with assorted cleaning crews, hermits, peppermint shrimp, and a gold stripe maroon clown.
<Ditto>
Would it be advisable to keep the lighting as is or switch to 2 50/50 bulbs instead of a dedicated 10000K and actinic?
Thanks
<Am not a fan of actinics period, and with the BTA present need more "white" light... Please see WWM re this animal, lighting small systems... The indices, search tool...
Bob Fenner>

Lighting Upgrade on an Oceanic 29 gallon Bio-Cube   6/13/07
Hello Crew,
<Howdy>
Thank you for all of the informative question and answer sessions you provide for our continuing education.
<A pleasure>
I have a bio-cube 29gallon with stock 2x36 lighting. I am planning an upgrade to the 4x36 Nanotuners kit. (from 72 total watts to 144 total watts).
My current light schedule is actinic on at 12 noon, daylight on at 1 pm, daylights off at 9 pm actinic off at 10 pm.
What schedule change(s) do I need to make after the upgrade, if any?
My critters are:
1 Assessor Macneilli
1 Cryptocentrus Cinctus
2 Amphiprion Percula
2 headed Euphyllia Glabrescens
1 Nemanzophyllia Turbida
Assorted Discosoma
1 Ricordea
A bunch (?) Pachyclavularia
A bunch (?) Xenia umbellate
A bunch (?) Caulastrea furcata
1 Sarcophyton toadstool
1 Lysmata wurdemanni
1 Lysmata amboinensis
Assorted snails and hermits.
Thank you for any assistance you can give me in the new lighting acclimation
for my tank.
Best regards,
Henry G. Mello
<Mmm, no real changes in the light schedule will likely be needed... Do pay attention to your non-Stony corals with this change though, and consider shading/shielding the white light if they appear to be too-closed for more than a day or two with the switch out. Bob Fenner>

Nano Reef Lighting 6/6/07
Hello everyone,
I have a question about nano reef lighting. I have a 20 gal. nano reef, which overall has been doing very well. The one problem is the light has been overheating the tank. Now I know that 20 gal. tanks can be unstable and bigger tanks are better, but a larger aquarium is out of the question. The light is 130watt. compact fluorescent light. It had been sitting directly on top of the glass canopy.
<Needs to be elevated... an air gap provided...>
Well it melted (or maybe warped) the plastic on the canopy, and heated the tank up to nearly 90 degrees. All the corals and animals in the tank lived and are doing fine. BTW it was about 83 degrees in our house when the tank hit 90 so that was probably part of it. I have been thinking about possibly replacing the light with a metal halide.
I found one that is 70 watts. Would that be enough to light the tank. The tank is only 12" deep and the corals are not especially light hungry. Is there a way to remedy the situation without buying a new light?
Thanks,
Peter
<Mmm, not likely much net difference here unless you suspend... again the air circulation, and or cut holes in the canopy, supply fan/s... Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/index.htm
Scroll down to Small/Nano Reef Systems... Bob Fenner>

Questions regarding nano reef (5.5g AGA): lighting and compatibility. Small Tank With Big Plans   5/25/07
Dear Crew,
<Scott F. your Crew member tonight!>
I'm not sure who will be the one reading this letter, but thanks in advance to that helpful person! I have a few questions; any help would be greatly appreciated. My system is
an AGA 5.5g nano reef.  I would like to keep the following:
   - Mushrooms galore
   - Purple cap (and similar corals)
   - Pulsing Xenia
   - Finger Leather
   - Yellow Polyps
   - Various zoanthids
   - Dwarf Seahorses (couple)
   - Peppermint Shrimp
   - Scarlet Leg Hermit Crabs
<In my humble opinion, this is too many corals of too many different types in too small a body of water. You'll have long term problems with chemical interactions between the various corals, particularly the Finger Leather and the Montipora (I assume that's what you mean by "Purple Cap"). In a system this small, I'd limit myself to one or two corals. Zoanthids would be a nice choice, because you could get a few different color varieties in this small space. Or, the best choice would simply be Xenia. They add movement, interest, and grow rapidly.>
After doing extensive research, I confirmed that all of the animals I picked are compatible with dwarf seahorses (except Zoanthids, of which I am unsure).
<I am not aware of any danger they would pose to the Seahorses. Although the crabs are generally inoffensive, they can stomp on and irritate your corals. If your dealer or other source for these crabs mis-identifies the species of crab, you could end up with a potentially dangerous one...Just something to think about when considering keeping crabs with Seahorses.>
Formerly I wanted to keep a blue clam, but after reading through
the FAQs, I found that the clams are best left for larger aquaria.  Some people also said that Linckia Sea Star (Blue) also need larger aquaria to survive, but I would like to get expert advice from you regarding that matter.
<Avoid the Linckia at all costs! They typically require large, long-established systems with large areas on which to feed on detritus, etc. A small system will simply not provide the necessary food sources for the sustainable husbandry of these creatures.>
My second question pertains to lighting.  I searched for days for
appropriate lighting for an AGA 5.5g.  While I love DIY projects, I've got two DIY projects queued, not to mention studying for GRE's and what not, so this is a bad time for another DIY.  Would the 20" 1x28W Coralife Aqualight hood w/ 50/50 be a good choice, or do you suppose I must go with higher intensity lighting (e.g., the 96W variant of the Coralife Aqualight)?
<Depending upon the photosynthetic animals that you'll be keeping, this could vary widely. For versatility, I'd probably opt for the 96 watt system.>
(Since the AGA 5.5g tank measures 16 inches long, there are not many lights that can neatly fit that are also appropriate for a nano reef.) At first, I wondered if it would be a good approach to get the 96W simply as a precaution in the event of an upgrade to say, a 10g tank.  In that light, would it be a wise maneuver?
<As above, I'd also opt for the higher wattage light. However, there are more and more small lighting systems coming to market all the time as "nano reefs" gain in popularity. Do check some of the e-tailers out there for what's new in nano lighting systems.>
Again, thank you very much.
Faithfully Yours,
Jason C. Wang
<Good luck, Jason! Hope your system is very successful! Regards, ScottF.>

Oceanic 29 Gallon Bio Cube. Euph/(frogspawn) in Nano Reef?  – 05/08/07
Hi crew.
<Hi.>
Before I get to the question I just want to say how helpful the site is.
<Go on……………>
VERY!!!
<Great; thanks!>
Anyways I would just like to know if you think that the Oceanic 29 Bio Cube has lights powerful enough to keep a frogspawn coral healthy and happy?
<Tis’ borderline. Not only the lighting but the size of the aquarium will make it difficult to keep the chemistry stable for this animal. But it is doable.>
It comes with 2 36w pc's.
<I would make sure both are 10,000k bulbs and replace them every 6 to 9 months as PC’s depreciate in lumens at an alarming rate in comparison of other types of lighting.>
If it is not, I heard of this  website called nanocustoms.com where they mod nanosystems. I just want to know what you think of this site,
<Am familiar with it. Have not used it personally, though I know many who have and have been very satisfied. Can’t give you a personal opinion really as I have nothing to base it off of. Having said that modding the original set-up may void the warranty. And I believe, though I am not sure, that nanocustoms gets around this by offering their own warranty. At the least it is something you should look into.>
if you've heard of it and would 4 36w pc's be enough?
<Yes but then there are heating issues to be concerned about.>
Also they have a skimmer on that site that fits into the back of the Bio Cube made by Sapphire which I never heard of, do you know if it is a good quality or not?
<No am not familiar with it either, though any skimmer is better than none….to many nano-‘ers go skimmer-less. Read this to; http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nanoreefsysart.htm .>
Just looking for your input.
<^^ There it is.>
Thank you.
<Welcome, Adam J.>

Reef Lighting 3/28/07
I have a 36 gallon corner tank that I want to begin an SPS tank with.  I was looking at lighting options and wanted to know if 150w HQI Metal Halide would work.  I kow that people say more is better, but with 36 gallons and a 21" tank depth, I did not want to have heat issues.  I do not want to purchase a chiller and was wondering if SPS would thrive under 150w.
I've searched all over and everyone seems to have an idea about what works best for them.  Some people even chose T5 lighting, but I've heard bad things about this as well.  What do you think?
<SPS corals do best under MH/HQI lighting.  I've just started using a Coralife Aqualight clip-on.  The only drawback is that you cannot mount it in a hood.
This light has a built in cooling fan (very quiet), and comes with a 14K lamp.  Is a very well made system and my corals have reacted favorably to it.
If you must use a canopy, you will not find an HQI strip light that will fit a 36 gallon corner, at least none that I'm aware of.
In that case, you will have to get a retrofit, and a fan will be necessary.>
Thanks for your time,
<You're welcome.  James (Salty Dog)>
Shane

Re:  Reef Lighting 3/29/07
Jimbo,
<Shano:)>
The opening of the 36 Gallon Corner is 23".  I was looking at getting a 24" Current SunPod 150w.  It is a strip light.
<OK, so there is no wood canopy.>
The other thing I was looking at, but quite a bit more for money, was the Coralife light which is an HQI/PC combo fixture. Both fixtures are 150w and should fit atop the 36 gallon with little difficulty.
While I agree, SPS will probably do better under MH lighting, my question is, will the 150w be enough for a 36 gallon, 21" tall tank?  Is 250w your recommendation or will 150w do the job?
<If you like a bright tank, the 250 watt would not be overkill, but the 150 HQI would work well.  I'd place the light loving corals (SPS) in the mid to upper
levels of the tank.  The Coralife fixture I referred to is a 150 watt HQI.  I'm using this fixture on a 40 tall mini reef (20" high).  I personally like the Coralife clip-on because it allows me to do maintenance without taking the
fixture off, making it much easier to clean when I can see what I'm doing.  If your tank is less than 12" wide, which I doubt, you would not be able to adjust the light to be in the mid section of the tank with this fixture.  Take a look at it here.  http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=13922&prodid=27192&catid=115  James (Salty Dog)>
Shane

Re:  Reef Lighting 4/3/07
I see.  That would be great for another tank, but this is a corner tank.  It would be very difficult for me to attach a clip on light.  The front of the tank is 38" across 24" wide and 21" tall.  The back of the tank comes to a point.  Basically, a standard AGA 36" corner tank.
I don't mind a bright tank - but wanted to ensure sufficient lighting for an SPS tank.  I am only planning on 2 fish in this tank to keep a low bioload.  I have already purchased and am quarantining two true percula clowns.  I don't want to create too much heat for these guys either.
So, you're using 150w on a 40 gallon tank which is 1" shorter than mine and you've seen good results.  Well, 150 w is cheaper!
<Is cheaper.  If you plan on keeping clams, the Squamosa and Derasa would do well under this lighting.  If Maxima or Crocea are in mind, I would probably consider the 250HQI.  You can help increase the intensity by painting the back of your tank with a latex sky blue or other light color of your choice.  It will help reflect more light into the tank.  Then again, if you have a heavy coating of coralline on the back, this would not be needed.>
Thanks Jimbo,
<You're welcome.  I would hate to ask how you arrived at "Pungent Beaver".  James (Salty Dog)>
Shane (Pungent Beaver)

FOWLR to Reef 3/27/07
Hello Mr. Fenner. <Chris with you today.>  First of all I would like to say I love the site. <Thanks> it has been very helpful.  <Then please help us next time by using proper grammar and punctuation.> I just have a quick question. I currently have a 29 gallon FOWLR and would like to make it a reef. My lighting is 130 watts total. 65 12000k and 65 actinic with moonlighting. Is this sufficient and what kind of lighting schedule should I use and can this system really be a 24 hr lighting solution. Thanks in advance for any reply
Jacob
<It completely depends on what you want to keep.  It should be ok for most medium light corals, although in a small system like this I would stock lightly.>
<Chris>

Lighting for a 20 gallon hex minireef  - 1/18/07
Hi,<hello David> I have been slowly getting a minireef up and running.<Awesome>  I had an old A.G.A. 20 gallon Hexagonal tank (20 inch depth) laying around and thought I would give it a whirl after years of freshwater aquariums.  So far so good, I have my live sand, rock well cured.  I have a few hermits and snails, and recently added my first open brain coral.  Everything is healthy so far.  My question is regarding lighting.  I have been using 36 watts 50/50 up until now, but am  considering moving up to one of the clamp on MH light fixtures, such as the JBJ Viper.  Would you recommend 70 watts or 150? <Currently I have a 15g high with a 10K-175w MH, and my 14g has a 10K-70w MH with 2-9w actinic. Personally I would go with the 150w, only if you plan on keeping high light corals otherwise the 70w will be just fine> With the 14K bulbs it comes with will I need or can I continue to use my 50/50 's.<14K give off a nice blue hue, 10K bulb is more white in color, your choice on that my friend>  Is there a big difference in appearance between a 14K and 20K. <A LOT more blue from the 20K> Thank you so much for your help.<Your more than welcome, Rich K.>
Best Regards
Carlos David

29-gallon reef tank lighting   12/28/06
Hello,
I've been reading your site for a few days now, looking for the answer, but I'm getting very confused.  I apologize if my question is a duplicate, but I'm finding so many different answers to my lighting question that I'm completely lost.
<Let us find your way together>
Here's what I have, and would like to have, that I need appropriate lighting for.
29 gallon tank with some live rock and sand. I'd like to add more live rock gradually, but since I'm still considering whether or not to do corals, I'm waiting so I have room. Right now this is what is in my tank and how long I've had them.
1 Ocellaris Clownfish (8 months)
1 blue damsel (8 months)
1 black sea cucumber (less than a week)
1 sea slug (less than a week)
2 coral banded shrimp - a M/F pair (less than a week)
<... do keep your eye on these... are opportunistic in their feeding habits>
1 turbo snail (8 months)
1 Florida Condi anemone (4 months)
1 feather duster (4 months)
1 flame scallop (2 months)
1 sand sifter starfish (6 months)
I have two PC light fixtures. They were on sale (they're usually so expensive), so instead of having one fixture that spans the length of my tank, I have two smaller fixtures that span 90% of the length of my tank.
<Not a "big deal">
Here are the specifications of the lights.
They are the Mini Aqualight by Coralife.  Each fixture has (quoted from the box):
* two bulbs, one 9 watt True Actinic 03 Blue and one 9 watt 10,000K daylight compact fluorescent lamp.
*built in ballast
*highly polished reflector
They sit on top of the glass aquarium cover so they are only a couple of inches from the top of the water.  The tank is only 18" deep and there are 2" of live sand on the bottom.  I figure, with the live rock and sand, there's probably only really about 26-27 gallons of water in the tank due to the displacement by the stuff.
I would like to have soft corals and I read the article "Lighting Your Marine Invertebrates: Reef Lighting Without Controversy!"  I would like to keep corals that typically live in the same level of water and I don't want to overheat the tank because now it's at a perfect temperature.
Your suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Marcia Weinstein
<Well... your stated lighting is fine for the fishes you have now... but really is insufficient for soft corals (Alcyonaceans)... I would look to increasing the intensity here considerably... five to eight times at least... Bob Fenner>

Simple question for my 29 gal. lighting   12/22/06
I have a 29gal saltwater tank and just need some advice on lighting.
First off it was a Eclipse combo.
My tank includes - -
1 65watt 24"  50/50 10,000K / Actinic 03 blue - Took out original lighting.
50lbs or a little more live rock.
1 powerhead at 160 gph.
Various little scarlet crabs/snails.
2 false clownfish.
Hood with built in bio-wheel and carbon filter.
I want to upgrade to either a 30" t-5 or Power Compact Fixture.
What specs would you recommend for low-medium types of coral?
watts/bulbs/how many?
<Mmm, 2-300 watts or so...>
Skimmer to come after Christmas.
Thank you very much for your time! Merry Christmas!
<Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/smmarsyslgtfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Lighting for 40 gal tall   12/17/06
Good evening! I have a concern regarding lighting. I currently have a standard 29 gal glass aquarium with a 24 in. PC Orbit lighting 65 w 10000K daylight SunPaq x 65 w actinic Sunpaq about 2 inches above water surface. Recently I was given a Sea Clear 40 Gallon Tall Eclipse 3…. I know… not much of an upgrade. My question is do I need to add more light to this new setup to account for the added depth.
<Mmm... what you have can/will work with an assortment of low to medium intensity-light-use organism groups...>
My corals are doing wonderful right now in the current 29 gal setup. (Kenya tree, toadstool, green star polyp, several zoas, Hairy mushroom, xenia)
<These fall easily into this category>
as the reason I would like to have more tank space without having to buy all new stand and equipment. I was reading in a previous post in which you suggest replacing a PC setup with higher wattage in a metal halide 10K pendant is this something I should consider or will the halides cause problems for the acrylic tank (read about cracking due to intense heat output from lights).
<The trade-offs in energy consumption, waste-heat production... are not "worth it" to me... I'd stick with fluorescent technology here>
Cost is a little bit of an issue…was hoping to upgrade without having to buy a complete new lighting system.
<I agree with your position>
  Thanks for all the great info,
  Carrie
  P.S thanks for all the help on the set up of my refugium-wow what a difference it makes in the tank.
<Ahh! Good. Bob Fenner>

Sm. SW Lighting  12/12/06
Hi,
<Hello San, Mich here.>
Thanks in advance.
<Welcome in advance.>
I am planning on getting a 30 gallon tank. Do you think that 130W PC lighting would be considered moderate? That comes to about 4.5W per gallon.
<The measurement is kind of subjective depending on variables such as the depth of the tank, if the light has a reflector, the distance the light is from the water, etc. It could be considered moderate.>   
Again, thanks!
<Welcome>
Great, and I mean great website.
<Thank you for your kind words.  -Mich>
-San

Shallow 40G with LPS -- best lighting?    11/27/06
Hi:
<Hey Matt, JustinN with you today>
Sorry to bother you.  
<Is what we're here for>
I've read most of the lighting FAQs, and am still not sure what to think.
<A detailed issue, with many facets for certain>
I'm having a custom tank built that will only be 15" tall (24 wide x 15" high x 28" long).  I don't want it to be too tall since I'm going to have it 'built in' and don't want to sweat reaching the bottom to clean/etc.  Also, I heard that you have less lighting issues if the aquarium is not as deep.
<Not so much less lighting issues, just less intensity needed to reach the deeper areas>
I have no intention on ever going SPS.  My favorites, that I plan to put in this aquarium:  Brains, mushrooms, zoas, frog spawn, Acan.
<Ok>
My problem is that the 24" leaves me with few options for getting to the 3 - 5 watts/gallon without getting two separate fixtures, which I'd like to avoid.  Would MH be overkill for this shallow LPS / softie aquarium?  
If not, what would you recommend in terms of wattage?  I think I read you suggest avoiding pendants for shallow aquariums?
<I think that MH would likely be ok on this setup, though they would have to be fairly high off the surface of the water. What about a T5 setup? If you're going to have a built-in design, why not just purchase a good ballast and retrofit your own lighting? It will likely save you cash, and be more customizable.>
Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Matt
<My vote would be for T5's simply for the heat buildup issues and distance the lights can be kept above the water surface. I am a bit impartial to T5 technology personally, however, so I should warn you of a slight bias on that opinion. Hope this helps you! -JustinN>

Re: MH lighting, mis-stocking in a too small SW system  11/20/06
After writing to you I am considering taking some animals out whats the logical move Thanks Ron.
<To read as you've been instructed... determine "who stings who" most... what you'd like to, can keep together. BobF>

40 gallon tall ... lighting    11/14/06
I have just purchased a 40 gallon tall 30" high. I will be using my live rock to build a nice tall wall in the back. This tank is only 20" wide so my lighting is limited. From reading on your site, it appears that you guys have kind of strayed away from the watts per gallon rule.
<Was only ever simply a "rule of thumb"...>
How limited am I with just a 96 watt power quad?
<A bit for high intensity requiring animals>
Would that be enough for some LPS up higher on the live rock and maybe mushrooms towards the bottom?
<Okay>
I have also looked at the 150w HQI light strip by SunPod. I would have to wait for this purchase though due to the additional costs.
James S. Smith
<The HQI would be better... less limiting. Bob Fenner>

40 gallon tall lighting   11/8/06
I have a 90 gallon setup that I am sorry to have to part with due to a move. I will have a small location that will be available to use for another tank. I want to set up another reef but most of the tanks that will fit in this location are either really small or really tall.
I have been looking at what pet smart calls a 40 tall(20w 19d 30h). I like the look of this tank, but am afraid of lighting problems due to width and depth. The only light strip that I have seen is a SunPod HQI halide. It has either a 70w or 150w 14k bulb. Would this bulb by itself be as aesthetically pleasing as what I am currently used to (10k halide with 2 actinic VHOs)?
<I do think you'll like it, but ask to see it "fired up">
I have also looked at a 30 tall, but I like the depth of the other tank better. However, since the 30 is 24 wide, my lighting choices are more readily available. What do you think about the two tanks in comparison
<I'd go with the larger>
I like hex tanks but don't really see a big increase in size for the price.
Blue Skies,
James Smith
<Hot jets. Bob Fenner>

VHO or MH For a Nano? - 10/10/06
Hi Crew!
<<Hello Tonia!>>
I have a question (why else would I be here?).
<<Indeed>>
I don't know if it has already been asked or not.
<<Probably...but please...continue...>>
I have two nano tanks, a 20 gallon tall and a 29 gallon that I would like to upgrade lighting.  Right now it only has a 20 watt fluorescent each, but in the future I would like to have mushrooms, zoanthids, and a place to put my growing Xenia.
<<Mmm, moderate light demands...>>
Xenia is in another tank, a 5 gallon Eclipse hex with 10 watts PC.  It has already split in the month that I have had it.
<<Neat!>>
Anyways, I will be moving some of my tanks around to make room for a new one, so the 20 and 29 will make an L.  Now, should I use VHO (thought maybe 2-75 watters for each tank under the same ballast, or would metal halide spread over both tanks?  (I doubt it, eh?).
<<The VHO should do fine here>>
In the 20 I was hoping to get a E. crucifer anemone or two.
<<Ah yes, Epicystis crucifer...the "Rock" or "Flower" anemone.  Too about 4" maximum...and about your only suitable anemone choice for this size tank!  "Kudos" on your selection>>
Which lighting would you recommend for that?
<<With this size/depth tank a pair of 75w VHO bulbs (10,000K) positioned close to the water's surface will do fine.  But my personal choice/for a bit more punch, a 150w DE 10K-12K pendant would be superb for the anemones (come from shallow water, high light environments)>>
Will my VHO idea work for the E. crucifers, and the corals I mentioned for the 29?
<<They would>>
Thank you for your time!
Tonia
<<Quite welcome.  Regards, EricR>>

Reef Lighting 9/21/06
Hi Guys!
<Hello Shaun>
36 Gallon 19" deep corner tank. I am trying to replace my 96 Watt PC quad, but am having trouble deciding on a light. I am thinking about buying a 24" 4x24 T-5 HO. Looking at the NOVA Extreme or TEK. I would like to keep softies, a few LPS and maybe a SPS or two. I live in Las Vegas, (115 degree summers every year). I also would like (against better judgment) a bubble tip anemone preferably one that lives past 6 months)
<Most anemones rarely live longer than a year in the home aquarium, even under the best conditions.>
Will this light git 'er done? I am also considering a 24" outer orbit, but think it may be too strong. Any advise would rock. Love your site, best around!
<Shaun, if it were me, I'd go with the Aqualight 150 watt, HQI clip on fixture, very well made, and it clips to the wall of your tank, and is adjustable.  A 20K bulb is included, and this unit sells for about 240 bucks through Foster & Smith and other on-line dealers.  Aquariums with HQI lighting should have a glass or acrylic top to minimize UV light.  James (Salty Dog)>  
Shaun

29 lighting upgrade  - 09/10/06
Hello.  First off there is so much great info out here, thank you.  My question is about upgrading the lights on my 29g tall.  I've had the setup a little over a year now and have started adding a few corals such as mushrooms and zoos.  I am currently running only regular fluorescents 2x20w 10,000 K, one 50/50 20w and one 18w actinic.  I am looking to upgrade.  The tank is 24" tall 24" wide and 12" deep. I've been told halide is overkill as well as T-5's is there truth to this.  I'm also looking at a 20" 96w coral life with the quad bulb, supplemented by another 20-40w of actinic, would this be enough for my tank to support corals?  Thanks you for your input.
Sara
<<Sara:  If you have something like 150 or 250W MH lighting, you could pretty much keep anything.  However, many people don't like putting MH lighting on small tanks due to the heat factor.  I have purchased Coralife lighting and it's worked fine for me.  It all depends on the type of critters you like to keep.  SPS corals and anemones usually only thrive under the brightest lighting conditions.  I have tanks with no lights, PC lights, VHO lights, MH lights, and mixtures of the above.  For the money, I think that PC lighting gives you the best overall value.  If you later want to take care of critters with higher lighting requirements, you might also want to start a bigger tank to house them.  Best of luck, Roy>>

Can gods make tanks that are too small to illuminate Anemones properly?   8/23/06
Hi
<Hello>
    My name is Trevor and I was wondering how much lighting I need for a 5 gallon 10 in. high minibow tank. I will have a bulb tipped sea anemone in it.
<Not for long likely...>
  I'm pretty sure the 15 watt bulb that comes with it is not enough.  Please respond as soon as possible
<Very hard to keep such a small marine system stable "enough" Trevor... particularly for animals such as Anemones. Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
and the linked files above. Trying to apply sufficient light/ing here will create heat/temperature vacillations that will... Bob Fenner>

Metal Halides, Webmail Lateness - 07/04/2006
I just want to start out saying thank you for such a great web site.  
<Thanks for this kindness.  Let me firs apologize for the delay in this reply; seems as though your email came to us in a state that few of us are able to view/respond to.  My system allows me this privilege, fortunately.>
My question is somewhat simple.  
<That's the kind I like!!>
I want to upgrade my lighting in my tank. Currently I am running a power compact with two 65W 50/50 lights.  I have wanted to upgrade to a HQI Metal Halide but don't know how much light I really need for my tank - And if I may be getting too much. Some specs on the tank: 30gal tank with 50lbs of LR, have a 12 gallon refugium. Currently I only have Soft Corals, Mushrooms, Polyps, things in that nature.   
<These do NOT need extreme lighting....>
I have been looking into getting a 150 watt HQI metal halide with a 15,000K bulb, is this a good choice?
<For your softies and corallimorphs?  No....  too much light, in my opinion....>
Will I be able to keep Hard Corals with this lighting condition?
<Not in the same system with loads of soft corals and corallimorphs.  Best to go one route or the other; too much allelopathy.  If you do choose to retain your softies, 'shrooms, etc., try at least to not have "too many", and plan on using lots of chemical filtrants to remove (or at least decrease) the amount of chemical toxins they release.>
Also when I upgrade the lighting I'm afraid that some of my current corals may not adjust well.
<Agreed.>
Should I just reduce the number of hours the light runs for; say from 11 hours to 7 hours and gradually increase over time?  
<Best to raise the light a ways from where it will ultimately be located, and slowly (over days) lower it.  The farther it is from the tank, the less light your animals will receive - this, in my opinion, is better than dropping it right on 'em and decreasing the amount of time lit.>
Thanks Ron
<All the best to you,  -Sabrina>

High Light Situation...Nano-Reef Aquaria   7/4/06
Hello
<Hey.....there.>
, I have a quick question i
<I.>
want to ask.
<Sure.>
I just purchased a new JBJ K-2 Viper 70 watt metal halide light for my 12 gallon nano.  
<Lot of heat on a tank that size.>
This is the only light I'll be using over the tank.
<Umm...that's all you'll need.>
How long should I leave it on everyday?
<What is the targeted photosynthetic livestock? You be attempting to emulate the habitat, artificial or natural (assuming it is coming from an appropriate habitat) the specimen is currently in. As a general recommendation, I would say a minimum of 6 hours and a maximum of 12, 7 would be a nice median.>
Also, when should the bulb be replaced?
<You should be using a light meter to monitor the lumens, but again generally speaking about 12 months. Give or take a bit (or alot!!!) depending on the ballast, bulb and quality of the reflector.>
Thank you!!
<Adam J.>

Lighting a Nano…..More Lighting “of”   6/22/06
Hey,
<What?…I mean Hi.>
I have a 1.5 month old 20H nano reef.  
<Okay.>
Right now I am only keeping hairy mushrooms but would like to be able to keep all kinds of soft corals with good coloration in this tank.
<Okay, but don’t mix too much…competing corals in a nano is not a good mix.>
I am currently running a single 65w power compact fixture with a SunPaq dual daylight bulb.  My problem has been in finding an affordable light that costs no more
than $150 and will allow me to be able healthier soft corals.
<65 watts should be “enough” to keep many “soft” corals.>
  Is there an electrically efficient light that will work for my situation?
<If you have a canopy and want more light I would just retrofit what you already have and add a T-5 HO or PC kit to the 65w PC you have.>
Thanks.
<Mmm-hmm.>
Travis
<Adam J.>

Nano Lighting For Acropora  6/15/06
I have a 14gal nano with 2x 55w power compact 50/50 10,000k/actinic plus a NO 18w fluoro. I would like to get a small Acropora frag to put high in the rockwork in around 4" of water.
I have been getting mixed info from different sites as to whether this lighting will do, (mostly from guys who will only use MH) but have seen examples of it working.
Stable water parameters and supplements aside,
1) will it work?
<Should>
2) will I be able to run the 18w as actinic for aesthetics or should I run a 6.5k for better health and growth?
<The actinic will be fine.>
3) when I replace the globes would I be better off with a dual daylight 6.5k/10k and a actinic as well as the 18w? (I stuffed up the globe order the first time)
<If using the 18 watt actinic, I'd go with two 10K's.>   
I have had a bit of trouble finding a definitive answer.
Thanks
<You're welcome.  James (Salty Dog)>
Scotty

For Aquapod Owners - 06/08/06
Hello all,
<<Hi Jenn!>>   
Love your site. I read it religiously to satisfy all of my aquarium questions.
<<Thank you, pleased to hear>>>
This is my first time emailing though.  I have more of a comment to pass along rather than a question.
<<Okay>>
Anyways, after purchasing a 12 gallon Aquapod a little over a month ago, I realized one of the blue lights was not working.  I contacted my LFS about ordering a new light, and as it turns out, there is a defect in the hoods of the 7050 models.  I guess this is a fairly new development, and they haven't even published the recall yet, or whatever it is they do.  The only way my LFS guy found out was from contacting Current to order me a new light.  So, they are replacing my whole hood for free, which is cool, but I guess it would have been nice if it would have worked properly in the first place.  Now my inhabitants have to be without their lights for a few days.  Anyways, I just wanted to let other Aquapod users know in case they have the same problem as I do, and may not even know it yet.
Thanks for all the great info.,
Jenn
<<Thanks for sharing Jenn.  Be chatting, EricR>>

Nano and Metal Halide Lighting... Nano Soup?  - 05/17/2006
Good Afternoon all,
<Late night now, Hi.>
First allow me to preface by saying I am relatively new to this hobby,
<Welcome.>
but have I have been reading all I can to get up to speed.  
<Superb.>
My current set-up is a stock 24 Gal. JBJ Nano Cube DX with the standard 72w of PC lighting.  I currently have stocked;  
-                     One (1) Wellsophyllia 4.5"

-                      One (1) Flowerpot
<Not an easy species….rarely live 6 months in captivity.>
-                      One (1) Pod of (8) Blue Mushrooms
-                      One (1) Trachy Brain 2.5"
-                      One (1) Crocea Clam 2.5"
<Not a great choice for a nano or power compact lighting.>
-                      One (1) Multi Headed Torch Coral
-                      One (1) "Green" Finger Leather Coral 5"
-                      One (1) small candy cane coral
-                      One (1) small pod of Zoa's
-                      One (1) Coco Worm
<Ditto on the comment about the flowerpot.>
-                      One (1) Regal Tang 2.5"  
<Not a great beginner fish, and inappropriate for this size tank.>
I have read that the corals will benefit from a Metal Halide 10K-14K
light source and that the color will be more intense.  If this is true,
I would like to remove my stock hood and install a Current USA SunPod
150w 14K.  
<In my opinion to much heat and light on such a small volume of water…and to be honest your animals barring the clam will do fine under your current lighting.>
This unit has legs and will be perched 4" - 5" above the
water's surface.  So, is the benefit worth the cost and am I going to
create too much heat (current water temp 79.1 F. with heater)?
<There are ways around heat but if you are new you may want to wait before you attempt to deal with such.>
Thanks for all of the advise.
<Adam J.>

SPS + Lots of Light + Nano = I dunno…….  - 05/17/2006
Hey Bob, Anthony, Sabrina, and the rest of the crew!
<The younger friend of both with you tonight, Adam J…the two you mentioned are in Hawaii as of right now.>
(Sabrina gets special mention, cuz Yowza! hubba hubba!)
<Lol, she is very fun in person.>
     I've been digging through the SPS lighting FAQ's searching for a definitive response about lighting on a nano tank.
<…Well if you read my article on nanos and SPS I’m not keen on the idea…SPS comes form one of the most stable environments on Earth…a Nano is arguably one of the most challenging close biotopes to keep stable. Furthermore SPS, as you know need A LOT of light, and A LOT of light means a lot of heat on a small system, which makes an already unstable tank even less stable.>
I gleamed from Bob and Anthony's responses that I could get away with 130 total watts of power compact lighting (2x65) for my 20 gallon tall nano, to support SPS.
<Well maybe near the top of the tank, to tall for the bottom of the tank.>
My question is less if this will be enough lighting for such a small space, and more on spectrum. Should the bulbs for this setup be mixed, that is 1 full daylight spectrum bulb, one actinic bulb, or should I go with all daylight?
<Well if you do decide to go through with it use 6500K to 10000K bulbs…but again I think my above comments you know my opinion on the SPS, highly lit nano…….>
Thanks, Justin
<Adam J.>

Lighting/Reef/Metal Halide  - 04/25/06
Hi.
<Hello Danny>
I am wondering what wattage Metal Halide bulb to use over a 29 gallon. I mainly want to keep Tridacna clams. Possibly an SPS or 2. The tank is 18"
tall and 30" long. I have about 20 pounds of reef sand and 35 pounds of live rock. I want to go with the 250watt 10,000k halide but my LFS says it will create
too much heat. <Yes.> So, my question is, should I go with the 250 or the 175watt?
And what color bulb would you recommend?  <Danny, I'd go with a 175 HQI system. Here is a link to an on-line dealer selling such a system for $169.00.  My dealer
has received some PC fixtures by this company and he considers them very good quality for the buck.  I like 14-20K lighting for a reef system.  OK, here is
the link.  http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=217&HS=1>
I am experienced in keeping marine and reef tanks but have always had PC lighting. This is my first venture into Halides and due to the cost, I want to
buy the right setup the first time. I can't really find alot of info on Halides over a 29gallon. BTW the tank is plumbed to a 10 gallon refugium. I know
it's not a large tank but I am diligent in research and maintenance. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks for your time.
<You're welcome.  James (Salty Dog)>
Danny R.

Use of Canopy   3/24/06
Hello Wet Web Staff <Hi Bonnie - Tim answering your question today!>,
I am considering upgrading my lighting system on my 30 gal. reef tank.  I currently have power compacts.  I've noted that some of the HQI systems I am
looking at state that they should be used with a glass canopy to help cut down water evaporation.  I always thought that any tank must be well
ventilated.  I would think by placing a glass canopy over the entire top surface of the tank/water, that this would be bad.  I'm worried that the
heat would build up in the tank from the lights. If you could tell me your thoughts/comments on this, it would be appreciated <I completely agree - the tank should not be covered with glass as this will result in a heat build-up, lack of gas exchange and also reduce the amount of light entering the aquarium.>.  Thanks.  Bonnie

Blasting A 10 Gallon (Lighting) - 03/16/06
Hi Crew,
<<Howdy>>
I have a 10 gallon SW setup for over 2 years.  It has a bunch of mushrooms (greens, red, blue, and lavender) besides some fish and the light is a Coralife 50/50 96 watt which I bought about a year ago.
<<Mmm, a lot of light on this small tank...>>
I am moving so I set up another 10 gallon in my new place with live sand and rock and let it run a few weeks with an old standard fluorescent cover of 18 watts.  I just put in the mushrooms from the old tank into the new and in about a days time they look better than in the old tank.
<<Tis the lighting.>>
They are spread out and the colors seem more intense.
<<Indeed>>
Even my 2 candy canes have brighter centers.  Does this mean that my 96 watt is too strong for the mushrooms or is it just the quality of the water is better since it has not been polluted by fish or food residue yet?
<<May be a bit of the latter, but the majority is likely due to lighting.  The organisms you mention, though highly adaptable, don't need and likely don't "want" the amount of light you had over the tank.  I think you could downsize to 36 watts of 50/50 PC lighting with the corals you listed, and be fine if not better off for it.  Regards, EricR>>
Thanks

24 gallon Aquapod  - 03/13/2006
Howdy Guys,
   <And some ladies...>
       First let me say I love your site. I attribute my first tank's (75 gallon reef) success to mostly you guys a lot of research and a little luck. It was gorgeous. I had to take it down to move but will be replacing it with a 180 gallon, I am HOOKED!
<Yikes!>
      Now to my question. Until I can get my big tank up and to help me from going through withdrawals I purchased a 24 gallon Aquapod. I would like to keep a dwarf lion fish and possibly a ghost eel with some LPS coral.
<Not good choices for this size/volume...>
I am curious about the lighting. It comes with a 70w 14,000k metal halide. Is this enough light or do I need to up to 150?
<... please see WWM re>
Lastly, can I buy just the bulb or do I have to buy a completely new fixture? Thanx as usual for your valuable advice.
          Sincerely, Butch
<See the manufacturer re their lighting suggestion, liability. Bob Fenner>

I would like to say... Success in a small, seeming under-lit reef system
Thank you for a great book Robert, "the Conscientious marine aquarist"
has been invaluable to me in setting up my first reef saltwater tank,
despite your warnings, i started up a Nano reef on 15 gallons. my very
first saltwater tank, and its been running for 1 year now, a complete
success, no illness, no water chemistry problems, what is more, its a full blown reef.
<Testament to your preparation, good care... and luck!>
I was wondering a bit about the section on lighting in your book, there
you mention that one should have 3-5 watts per gallon when keeping hardy
invertebrates and macro algae, and 7-10 watts for corals and anemones.
<Of likely "normal output" fluorescents>
My tank only has a lighting of 30 watts, that's 2 watts per gallon (a full
spectrum and a blue actinic fluorescent tube) despite it seeming to be
low output i have soft corals and even a LPS and SPS that are thriving under the light.
<Can be done, yes>
Naturally i am pleased about everything going well but i am still curious why it may be going so well? Some say that Actinic
lighting has a greater effect on coral health and growth than the full
spectrum lights, could this have anything to do with it?
<Not likely, no>
because my system runs with one Marine White 9600k 15w and one Marine Blue Actinic
15w fluorescents.
Regards,  Mark
<There is a wide and varying range of "photo-adaptation" in cnidarians... initially a matter of species and depth where collected mainly... An important factor is also a given species, group's capacity for deriving nutrition from other sources (feeding, chemical...). Some individuals, species are better/worse at "starving" and making up for nutritional lackings... Bob Fenner>

Questions On Lighting and Invert. ID - 12/06/2005
Hi Crew,
<Hello.>
I seem to have a mental block about lighting. So, if I have a 10 gallon with mushrooms and candy cane and some fish. Am I better off with 96W quad 10,000k or with a 96w quad 50/50 act/10k? Right now I have the 50/50 and it seems ok except for a couple mushrooms that prefer less light.
<That's really up to you/aesthetic preference. Either will be fine, so if you've already got it just use it. When it's time to replace bulbs you can try a different combo. and see how it suits you, just remember to acclimate your livestock properly.>
I have the candy cane for about a year. It came with various tube worms on it.
<Rather common.>
Recently I noticed something poking out of the base. It looks like a light brown snowflake about 1/16 of an inch across. It looks just like a magnified picture of a snowflake. There are two of them and I can not see any tube. They seem to be coming out of a space in the base. Where should I look to ID these?
<Try searching the net for images of the Serpulid fan worms. That's most likely what you're seeing and they are commonly found in live corals as well as live rock. If this turns out to be the case, then don't worry about them possibly harming your coral. - Josh> 

Lighting options - 11/29/05
I am fairly new to the saltwater hobby and totally addicted to it! I have a 30 gallon tank (Eclipse 30"x12"x18"deep, Biowheel filter 
<Do you have live rock? If so, you may wish to consider removing the bio-wheel> 
and the lighting now is 24" T8-20 wt X 2) I want to change out the lighting so I can start adding corals, etc. and I am very confused on how to go about this. The LFS wants to sell me ($149.99) 24" Power compact Odyssea which will sit up some off the top front of my tank and it is not long enough. 
<doesn't sound much good.> 
Is there some way I can retrofit the existing canopy with new lights so everything looks the same as it does now (a nice pretty tank)
<Yes, you have options here... if you don't mind a spot of simple DIY, you may be able to retrofit light fixtures into your existing canopy. There are a number of sites which offer kits for this.. check out AHSupply.com and Hellolights.com for starters. That said, there may not be much room in your eclipse, and your choices may be quite limited. You will also have less heat issues with external fixtures -- but you are certainly not limited to fixtures which are too short for your tank!>
or if I go to corals will I have to buy something like the fish store wants to sell me. 
<No.>
Also I don't have a skimmer, is it  necessary?
<Some people have been successful without them. In my opinion, a skimmer is a very worthwhile investment for any tank, and I'd strongly recommend you to buy a good one.>
Right now I have a cardinal, 6 line wrasse, gold striped maroon clown and a cherub angel along with 1 turbo snail 2 Astrea, 3 hermits and one Narc snail that I never see. Please help soon. My husband is going to get this for an early Christmas present and I don't want to spend more on a lighting system when I could spend it on the corals. 
<Lucky husband! Bear in mind that you need to decide on what corals you want to keep first, and then tailor the lighting decision accordingly. Different corals very widely in their lighting requirements.>
Thanks so much. I read this site everyday.
Beth Van Zandt
Montgomery, TX
<Me too! Good luck & best regards from Shanghai, John>

Small Tank Lighting/Skimming - 11/18/05
Quick history, I used to have a 55 gallon reef with 4x65 lighting, deep sand bed, CPR and refug, everything went well but I just didn't have the time/attention after my daughter was born to take care of it properly so I broke it down before I neglected the animals.
<<Good for you...>>
Well my daughter is 2 and loves Finding Nemo so I decided to purchase a 20 gallon standard tank and make it FOWLR and of course... Nemo and Marlin (two Percula clowns).
<<of course>>
No Dory (blue tang) I don't want the tang police to come after me for housing in a small tank.
<<Glad to hear...I have their number on speed dial...>>
Anyway, I was lucky enough to get back some of my live rock I gave to a friend two years ago and a few nice pieces at the local store to about 20 lbs (will add more periodically till about 25-28)
<<may not be necessary>>
and I have a 3-inch bed of sand., and an Aqua Clear mini for debris (will pull sponge and only run it a week at a time, don't want the nitrates). My question is lighting and skimmer. I don't plan on adding anything but a few more fish 
<<Very few I hope.>>
a shrimp and some crabs, and maybe a few small mushrooms/polyps. Total would be 4-5 very small fish (one inch each)
<<Fish grow up...>> 
1 shrimp, and a few snails, a small hermit crab or two. Possibly a few nice mushrooms near the top or middle and a polyp rock if I find some. Not much bio-load for a 20.
<<Mmm, use caution...all adds up/multiplies quickly.>>
I was tempted to buy a 2x65 watt power compact for the thing but all I want to do is keep the coralline on my rock, perhaps propagate the little mushrooms and add a few more. Do I really need that much heat/lighting or can I get away with just one 65 watt 50/50 power compact bulb?
<<For what you have proposed I think a single 65w (my choice would be 10000K) will do fine.>>
I won't add more than a few pieces of mushroom and maybe a polyp or two.
<<The will grow/multiply, sometimes very rapidly...just be ready to deal with them.>>
The 2x65w heat concerns me as well as the instability of the hood (clips), with the two year old around.
<<understood/agreed>>
Price is not the issue, there isn't much difference. Just don't want the extra heat/fans and hood accessories, just more to go wrong/break. And if I change the water enough do I really need a skimmer for that? I could get one, just curious.
<<I always recommend a skimmer...but you are correct, you can probably get by on this small tank with frequent partial water changes...but don't neglect else there will be trouble with those noxious mushrooms and polyps in there.>>
I had one on my big tank but the load was so much higher. Thanks for the great info, I can read this stuff all night. Just trying to keep it simple.
Frank
<<Simple is fine. Regards, EricR>>

NO SOUP FOR YOU...! Maybe With These - Cooking/Lighting a Nano with Halides
Hi,
<Hello James.>
I have been reading your forums and they are great. I have learned a lot. 
<Glad to hear it.> 
I have an Eclipse 12 tank with about 10 lbs of live rock, a bubble tip anemone, 
<These animals can reach 12” in diameter, really to small for this tank…if you choose to keep it, make sure it is the only sessile invert. in the tank.> <<I think you meant the tank is too small for the anemone, yeah? ;-) MH>>
2 tomato clowns 
<These two will also outgrow the tank given time, tomatoes get rather large compared to some of their cousins like A. percula.>
2 turbo snails 
<Only one is necessary for this tank.>
2 hermit crabs, and am planning on getting a Sebae 
<Not with the bubble tip in there, these anemones also get up to 24” in diameter. Best left in the ocean or to veteran aquarist with large tanks.> 
and eventually other corals. 
<Will be stung by the bubble tip.>
I currently am running the standard Eclipse PC light but am in the process of purchasing a AQUALIGHT ADVANCED - MH Bulbs = Coralife 150W 20,000K that is a hang-on tank mount (due to arrive tomorrow). 
<A lot of light for this tank volume.> 
So I will be removing the hood of the Eclipse and putting that light on. I read a previous forum discussion where you said that was too much light for a small tank 
<Possibly true, will severely increase the heat the tank is subjected to, a top-off system and fans at the least are a must.> 
(especially the animals) 
<Yes the photosynthetic animals (anemone) will have to be acclimated to the new lights by hanging it high and slowly lowering it over weeks or starting with short photoperiods and slowly increasing over time.> 
and the hating would be another issue. <<Heating, mayhaps?  MH>>
<Yes a huge issue, the biggest issue, see above.> 
The guys at hellolights.com (which was are recommended lighting store from your forums) told me this light would be
adequate. 
<Well it is adequate, overly adequate in my opinion.> 
Will the heating issue be void b/c I am running it without the hood 
<No it will not be void, you will see a large increase in ambient temperature as well as evaporation, nanos really aren’t built to be subjected to this type of intensity and heat.> 
and will the animals be hurt with the increased lighting? 
<See above.> 
So should I cancel and change it to something that would be more appropriate,
<Depends, Can you keep the tank stable with this addendum of intense heat in such a small water volume?>
or is this lighting okay? 
<If you want to increase your lighting on a nano I would prefer to see T-5 high output, intense lighting not as much heat….not sure if a fixture is available for this tank size. To be honest it does not sound as if you are ready for the heating issue and you could very well cook your animals if you are not prepared to deal with this intensity/heat.> 
Thanks
James
<Adam J.> 

Reef Lighting part 2 9/26/05
Thanks for your advice.   My tank measurements are 48" long, by 20" deep, by 30" height.  I only have a JBJ 36" Power Compact with 2 96 watt bulbs. Should I buy just one Metal Halide pendant???  I could put the PC's towards the back, where my rock gets higher, and put the metal halide in the front, where the rock is lower.  Also, just buying one MH pendant is only $250, as opposed to buying a whole new lighting system for over $400.  Do you think I would have a sound lighting system then????  Thanks again.  Jeff.
<A good rule of thumb is to use one MH lamp for every two feet of tank length.  By this rule you would need two lamps.  Using only one lamp will leave quite a bit of shadows at the ends of the tank.  You also need to be sure not to place a MH lamp directly over a center brace.  Doing so will not only block light but can also damage the brace.  Hope this helps. AdamC.>

Mini-Reef Lighting 11/3/05
I'd first like to say how much help your site has been with my aquarium. I have a 29 gallon FOWLR tank that I've had for about a year now and would like to begin adding some corals. Right now my lighting is a Coralife Lunar Aqualight Compact Fluorescent with 1X65 watt 10k daylight and 1X65 watt actinic. I am planning on building a custom hood and would like to put some type of retro fit kit into it. I am looking at a Coralife Aqualight retrofit kit that has the same output as my hood now, but I am wondering if 130 watts is enough. 
Would it be ok to double up this retrofit kit for 260 watts, or is that too much lighting? I have also considered a VHO retro fit, but again I wonder if two 75 watt bulbs making 150 watts enough? I don't want to go with 50/50 bulbs because I like putting my lights on a timer for dawn and dusk cycles. I am leaning toward the option of doubling the compact fluorescent retrofit kits. I am mostly interested in keeping  Soft Corals and LPS, but I would like to be able to have some SPS if I saw something I couldn't live without (you guys have to know how that is). 
Any suggestions or other options you have would be great. Again thank you so much for all your help.
<Sounds like you're not so sure what type of "reef" (what direction the coral is going in yet) I would choose one bio-tope or the other because mixing softies/SPS/LPS in tis volume will only be a short term arrangement at best. The lighting you have now is okay for most of the items you mentioned above including a few hardy SPS like Monti. and Turbinaria <<?>> but for other Acros it may not be intense enough. It would be better if you used x2 10,000K bulbs and not just one. IF you do plan to keep shallow water organisms like SPS I would look into T-5 High Output Bulbs. Of course there is the MH option but with the heating issue these bulbs bring, I'm just not a fan of them on smaller tanks. Adam J.> 
 
 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

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