Coral reef tank lighting 10/2/05
Hello, I currently have a 210G tank which is 6' long x 2' wide x 31" tall
Currently I have 3-150 watt HQI's with 4-96 actinic's on it. I want to be able
to keep anything and everything I want as far as corals. I know I most likely
need to upgrade my lighting, but it is a toss up for me as far as upgrading to
3-250 watt HQI's with 4-96 watt actinics, or 3-400 watt HQI's with 4-96 watt
actinics. Being my tank is 31" deep can I get away with 3-250 watts or do I have
to go 3-400 watts? again I want to be able to keep anything as far as corals go.
P.S. I do have a chiller so heat isn't that much of a issue, but household
current might be. Thanks, Brad <Brad, if you want to be able to keep everything
and anything, I'd go with the three 400 HQI/4-96 actinics. James (Salty
Dog)>
Lighting Choice 7/26/05
Hi, I am having a bit of trouble deciding what type of lighting I should use
for my new Reef Tank. I am setting up a 75 Gal tank with overflow and
sump/refugium on an oceanic stand with 8" canopy as well. I would like to
be able to have a LPS/SPS/Clam tank. I have been debating between two
different lighting sources. The first is a Hamilton MH/Power Compact set-up
(2 - 175 Watt MH 6500K and 2 - 96 Watt PC 7100K) and the second is a
Hamilton or Ice Cap fluorescent set-up (4 - 110 Watt VHO). Both set-ups
would be retrofit kits installed in the canopy. My concern was with the
heat of the MH set-up since I do not have air conditioning and do not want
to purchase a chiller, but I feel that I need that type of light to run a
great looking reef tank. Would the VHO set-up be adequate enough or do I
need to go with the MH/Power Compact? <Erik, I would go with the MH/PC combo,
especially if you want to keep clams. I would substitute the 6500K with 10000K
bulbs. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks
Erik Poch
Lighting for one New to Corals
Well I've been reading a lot and I love this site!! I've just started out in corals. Well to make a long story short I was told by
my LFS that this compact would be all I need for the corals I want. Well I just bought a hammerhead
coral (Euphyllia ancora) and they said the lighting will be okay it's a 55g tank with 48in. compact 2 65 watt true actinic o3 blue and 2 65 watt 10,000k total of 260 watts I but the coral halfway up in the tank is the
lighting enough for this coral. My other corals or okay I hope! Colt coral, mushroom, pipe organ, yellow leather, flower pot and xenia's are
all doing great but not so sure about that hammerhead. Thanks a lot for your help;
Audrey Bowens
<Should be fine, give the hammerhead time to acclimate. James (Salty Dog)>
Lighting for Corals, cont'd.
Thanks but is the 20000k {being in the blue spectrum }going to provide more lighting to reach the bottom of the tank. which is better for corals .
<Corals really prefer lighting in the 6500K which is the temperature of daylight at high noon. Some people have had trouble with algae growth with 20K's. Your best bet for coral growth are the 10K's. James (Salty Dog)>
Lighting
I have a standard 55 gallon, about 18 inches deep. My question was whether 130 watts (two 65 watt bulbs) would be enough lighting for any soft corals ,
and/or any types of anemones. Thanks again! <With your tank depth, I would go with four 65w tubes. As it is you only have about 2.4 watts per gallon where 4 to 5 is the norm. I run two 65w PC's in my 29 mini reef (4.5 watts/gallon) and I feel it may not be enough). With four, you would be at 4.72 watts/gallon which should be enough for all softies, anemones and some hard corals. James (Salty Dog)>
Lighting question
I am sure this is one of a million times you have been asked this. <No
worries Paul. MacL here with you today.>
I have 100 Gallon FOWLR but will be adding my corals. For my lighting, I decided
to run 4 x 65W 10000K and 2 x 65W actinic 03, all from Hellolights.
I have the 4 X 10000k in one fixture toward the back of the tank and the 2
actinics in the other fixture toward the front. <I think this will work fine for
LPS and some softies, I think you are going to have to be careful with the
SPS. I personally like the blue from the actinics so I like to have them at the
front. Others don't like that look as well, so that's something you might want
to check out before you permanently have it done.> In your infinite wisdom, I
was curious as to your opinion as the type/quantity and placement of my setup.
<Good luck, MacL>
many Thanks
Paul
Lights and Hoods? - 8/20/03
Hello
<howdy!>
I have been reading a lot of your wonderful suggestions on various lighting. It
seems that MH lights 10K are a common theme when trying to illuminate a tank for
most inverts.
<correct and fair to say... a safe choice>
Also, it seems to be recommended to hang them 6-12"'s
above.
<yes... 9" being ideal for many for optimal spread versus intensity>
My question concerns the prefabricated hood which are fan- cooled and perhaps
stand three inches at best above the glass canopy. Is this a problem, say in a
46g bow tank?
<hmmm... it depends on the species of invert being kept. Some will favor or
tolerate it... others will suffer light shock. And the lamps have a worse spread
the closer they are to the water (not maximizing light delivery). For such
fixtures... simply prop them up or suspend them higher to get your
6-12">
...
and more specifically would a 175w 10k Aqualine bulb be enough for soft corals
and perhaps an anemone (haddoni or bubble tip)...
<it would likely be enough for either, but you must know that the anemone
should not be kept in a tank with corals. Motile cnidarians (the anemones) are a
recipe for disaster with sessile ones. Issues of movement, allelopathy and
simply catastrophe from the inevitable walk through the reef full of corals.
Anemones need species tanks>
...
or should it be supplemented with a pair of NO, VHO, or PC's and if so 6500k or
actinic?
<only for aesthetics if you like>
As always tanks a lot for the great advice. Regards, Steve
<best regards, Anthony>
Lighting LPS - 12/13/04
Hey there,
I am in the final stages of planning a 125 gallon reef. The tank dimensions
are: 72x18x23 (23 inches being the height). After reading aquarium corals by
Borneman, I have decided that I would like it to house Fungiids, Faviids,
Lobophyllia, Trachyphyllia, Euphyllia, and Plerogyra. According to the author,
these corals have similar light and water flow requirements (bright light,
moderate current). <Be sure to feed the proper foods of the proper size. Take a
look through the FAQs we have on the subject here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fungiidae.htm and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/trachyphlliidae.htm> The trouble I am having is
trying to determine the proper amount of lighting. I am leaning towards power
compacts, and am trying to decide between a Coralife Aqualight hood with
4x96watts or 6x96watts. <I like the 6x96 because of depth of your aquarium> I
would like to have an open area of substrate with some free living Fungiids on
it. <Sounds absolutely perfect> Do you think that the 4x96watts would provide
enough light penetration for this? <Maybe.....with real good conditions
otherwise and a 3times a week feeding schedule there is a chance. In fact, a
good chance.> The cost of the 6x96 watts is substantially higher, but it does
have the added convenience of a remote ballast, to lessen heat build-up in the
canopy. <I like this choice the best of the two> Also, how would one provide
bright, indirect light (as Borneman recommends for Euphyllia), <the best way to
provide this type of lighting is either have a large macro algae (like some of
the many algae available from your LFS or online retailer) that partially covers
(not touch) the coral (Euphyllia) or a slight rock over hang. No open or direct
light needed> and do you think that a yellow tang and a Kole tang would be able
to coexist in a tank this size? <Hard to say but I have heard of them coexisting
in large tanks.> Thanks in advance, I will be eagerly awaiting your
response. <Thanks for your questions and being part of the WetWebMedia
experience. ~Paul>
Light Acclimation
Hi, I have a 18 inch deep tank with 260 watts of PC lighting. I have 4 clams and a mix of soft and hard corals . I am switching my lighting to 250 watt 20 K XM , I plan to keep the pendant 12 inches off the water. The old lights ran for 12 hours a day. What should I start off with the new light so I don't shock or burn
anything. On the other hand I don't want to cut back to much, I have read so many articles it is mind boggling. Do you have a straight forward answer for this teaser? thanks Thomas Giddens
<Hi Thomas. Rather than adjusting the photoperiod, I would suggest one of the following options: Raise the new lamps an extra foot above the water and lower them by about 2" every other day to their final position. Or, you could place the lamps as they will be run and use a couple of layers of some kind of screening material. Remove a layer every few days until they have all been removed. Best Regards. Adam>
- Lighting Choices -
Thanks for your reply about calcium but I have another question about
lighting for a reef tank. I am setting up a 55 gal. reef tank. I currently have
a 30 gal. with soft and hard corals and a maxima clam with 2 small fish. I am
looking at 130 watt power compact vs. a 260 watt power compact. Both will be 50%
actinic and 50% 10,000K. Which wattage do you recommend. <The higher wattage
the better, especially with that clam - 260 watts.> I would like to get metal
halide lights but wife won't let me spend money for them even though they would
cheaper in the long run.
Thanks, Larry
<Cheers, J -- >
Ubiquitous Lighting Questions, and the New Coral Stocking Question
Hello all.
As I look at your site daily for the FAQ's, I find more and more valuable information. I can not say how valuable your perspective and
experience is for those in the hobby.
<Thank you!>
I have had several tanks over the past few years and have gotten out and back in.
In the past my tanks have been FO. This time after taking my wife with me to our LFS she wants to have some coral. The plan is to add what you
could call easier coral like star polyps and leather corals. To give a little back ground my tank is a 125 Gal with 170 pound LR for filtration
and has been running for about 6 months. The lighting currently is 2 140 watt (280 total) VHO URI bulbs (1 super actinic, 1 actinic white).
I guess my first question is should I double my lighting?
<Doubling your lighting (4x 140wt VHO's) would be an excellent start, especially
when you consider keeping some of the light demanding scleractinians (stony corals).>
The reason for my question is about adding coral to the tank. I understand the acclimation process and about slowing increasing the
lighting, but I have searched everywhere and cannot find anything about the number of coral that can be added at a single time. I know that
with fish it must be very slow. Currently I have only 3 fish in the tank (2 blue damsels and 1 Sailfin). The main reason that I am asking
is that I have seen several paces that offer deals when you purchase multiple corals at a time, for an example like 5 Corals for $99 or even
9 corals for $99. Since all of the places are close to my house I could pick the coral that I want. This seams like a good deal from a monetary
perspective, but I am not sure if it is a good deal from a tank perspective. Can you add this many corals at one time if they are small
to mediums sized or does size of the coral even matter?
<Corals produce very little biological load so it would be no problem to add a large amount of coral to your tank at once. I've seen the 9 for $99.00 deal, and it definitely is a good deal. To answer your second question, size will matter, although as I stated above, corals put out such little biological load that it would be fine to add a large amount at one time. I would first make sure your tank can support corals before you go ahead and spend $100.00 on live coral. You may want to add a few easy to keep corals to your tank first, such as mushrooms, zoanthids, etc. If these corals prove to do well, you can move on to other species of coral.>
Take Care,
Graham Stephan
WWM.com Crew
Thanks for your help and perspective. I have been reading stuff from Bob since FFExpress
day's and greatly appreciate his opinions his book
the Conscientious Marine Aquarist is one of the best book I have read on the subject. Also I wanted to let you know that I love the Reef
Invertebrates book and can't wait until the next in the series comes out.
Thanks, Todd
Inverts for PC's
I currently have 4 x 65 watt PC's running on my 72g with 95 lbs of live rock and
a 6" DSB. Two 10k whites and two actinic blues are the bulbs I am using.
I've read from a few sources that this lighting may be powerful enough to keep
SPS, granted you also maintain the appropriate dKH and Ca levels. Given the
latter two are in place, and water quality is high, is this feasible? If not,
what types of inverts would thrive best under this type of lighting?
<4x 64wt Power compacts will not be able to house many species of small
polyped scleractinians, especially when it comes to the genus Acropora. Under
such lighting, you may be able to keep some species of Montipora digitata,
Pavona cactus and Hydnophora. I wouldn't attempt keeping any corals in the genus
Acropora unless you upgrade your lighting. The corals mentioned above, if kept
under such lighting, will most likely show slow growth rates and will show poor
coloration (which is due to increased amounts of zooxanthellae). I would first
attempt a fragment of a Hydnophora, preferably one which has been captive raised
in another persons aquarium. If the fragment shows good coloration and overall appearance
for over 2 months, you may move into some of the corals in the genus Montipora
(M. digitata is a quick growing and easy to obtain SPS). Overall, your selection
is quite limited when it comes to SPS. If you're considering switching over to
the dark side (keep SPS and other light loving invertebrates, such as Tridacna
clams), I would recommend you upgrade to metal halides. If you have any further
questions please do not hesitate to email us back.>
Take Care,
Graham Stephan
Different Lighting For Different Animals
One last question, kind sir, well for now at least. I have read about a 14000 K
and 20000 K bulb (metal halide) both of which offer lighting more in the blue
spectrum allowing the corals to fluoresce. Granted these bulbs would be more
appealing to the eye for most aquarists, especially if they absolutely cannot
fit another fixture for actinics but do these Kelvin ratings also offer the same
photosynthetic benefits and life support capabilities as the 10000 K bulb does?
<Well, at the risk over-simplifying things, these bulbs provide different
wavelengths, but to photosynthetic animals, they offer essentially the same
benefits, helping to feed the symbiotic algae living within the animals that we
keep. Frankly, if you're not dead-set on all-out growth- try the more
aesthetically appealing (IMO) 14000k and 20000k bulbs. You can always switch
back, after you re-acclimate the animals to the brighter lighting schemes>
And, on another note, I have yellow polyps that are under about 16-
20 inches of water under a 150 watt 10000k bulb and they don't look so good do
they need more light?
<I'd look at other possible factors...Re-check water conditions. Generally,
these animals can thrive under many lighting schemes.10000k seems to make them
more golden, and 20000k makes them more yellow. Give them good water movement,
and they should be okay.>
And my hermit crab anemones wont open. What kind of lighting do they need?
<10,000k should be adequate in the wattage that you're using, IMO>
One last thing- I have green mushroom corals on the bottom of the tank and they don't
look so good either. What's the deal with them they get hit with light but not
really directly...
<Well, it could be more than just the lighting. Do verify water conditions,
competition from other animals, etc.>
If you would be so kind as to answer these questions especially the one on the
light bulbs (10 K 14K 20 K) I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks a
million........Wish I could repay you...you make life easy....well for us lazy
folk......
<We're glad to be here for you! Do make use of the extensive information on
the site about the topics you've brought up and then some. Lots of good stuff
here- more than I could provide in just this email. Good luck! Regards, Scott
F>
- Reef Lighting -
Hello Bob,
<Not Bob today, but JasonC... greetings.>
I have a 55 gal reef tank/20 gal refugium with 4 40w standard florescence and 2
55w compact florescence lights. 50/50 and actinic bulbs
(URI and custom Sealife). I want to switch over to metal halide two
10,000k or 14,000k 175w (Blueline e-ballast) and two 40w actinic florescence. Will
that be too much light? <Not really, but you will want to bring this change
in lighting in slowly... more to read about this here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm
>
I was thinking about rebuilding my canopy and making it 8 inches instead of the
4 inches that it is right now and keep my two 4 inch fans. I also
keep my glass on for safety reasons. The tank is filled 3/4 of the way up with
live rock in the back. I have at the top Green and yellow Goniopora,
pulsing xenia (red sea), green star polyp coral, yellow polyp coral, finger
leather, and a finger toadstool. In the middle I have cabbage coral,
glove polyp, pagoda coral (cup), green and purple mushrooms, Ricordea mushrooms,
colt coral, two toadstools, and green finger leather. At the bottom I
have snake coral, green and brown button polyps, red mushrooms, and a sebae or
long tentacle anemone. I want to get into some more LPS corals and then move
into SPS corals without sacrificing my existing corals with bleaching from the
new light. <Do be careful with this mix... most all corals are chemical
warriors, and with a tank of this size, you are going to have some fall-out if
you pack it with corals.> Also if I could switch over to the new lighting can
you give me some help on how to switch over without hurting the corals.
(acclimating with the new light) <Read that article.> Also what bulbs
should I go with (company names and Kelvin ratings) (long skinny bulbs or the
fat mushroom shaped bulbs) note: I am going to run 2 48" 40w actinics (URI)
<Do believe that bulb choice has more to do with what your eye prefers than
anything else. Personally, I'm really fond of the light provided by the Aqualine
10k bulbs.>
Cheers, Kris
<Cheers, J -- >
175w MH on 180... Enough?-
Happy New Year to all !!!! <Thanks, and to you too!>
I have a simple question, I currently have a 180g reef that has mostly soft
corals but some LPS, I would like to add some SPS and maybe a clam. My concern
is my lighting. I have 3 175 watt MH 10000k lights and 2 160w 50/50 VHO's . The
canopy hangs approx 8 inches above the surface of the water. Does this sound
like enough light to support SPS and clams needs. <You may have trouble
keeping good color (for SPS) at the bottom of the tank, but I think you should
be able to get excellent growth and coloration of SPS corals near the top of the
tank. As for a clam, I'd first pick up Daniel Knop's book entitled "Giant
Clams" and give it a read through. You should be able to support many of
these guys, but their placement will be determined by their individual lighting
needs. I hope this helps! -Kevin>
Lighting Requirements for New Reef Tank 1/8/03
Hello Crew,
<Hi Roy!>
I have read up on much info on the WWM for the last several months and found
that the more I read, the more dependent I am to this site.
<Glad to hear you are finding good information!>
I'm only 6 months into the hobby, my first tank approximately 130g did not fare
too well in keeping hard corals. Mainly because of the design of the
tank (too tall, too narrow), by my interior designer whom value aesthetics more
than anything else. Me being very green, didn't think too much about
it at the time until finding it very inconvenient to feed or even to place
corals. In the interim and spending a lot of money, I've killed off
many corals, some due to handling & misplacement, some by now returned Lemonpeel,
and some by pure ignorance.
<This is a common occurrence, but it is good to hear that you obviously care
about the animals and want to do better.>
I'm in process of setting up my second reef tank (197cm*69*75H), though I have
many questions to ask, I'm going to keep this one just on lighting to keep it
simple. I'm also setting up 2 separate smaller tanks attached to the
sump below and an additional refugium tank on the side of the display. All
the tanks will be linked to the display so I can opt to keep many corals and
maybe non reef-safe fishes in the other tanks. Like my first tank, it
will include calk reactor, protein skimmer, ozone, PH meter, & ORP meter. After
reading, I will be skipping the UV for this tank.
<Sounds like it will be a very nice system!>
Here's the question. For the display, I'm planning on keeping mainly
hard corals including open brain corals (Trachyphylliidae), swollen brain, plate
corals, Euphyllidae, pearl, Calaustrea, Catalaphyllia (I must try again), &
various clams. I understand clams need quite a bit of light but my
corals may not need as much. So based on my tank measurements (outer
perimeter) with approximately 12-15 cm coral sand bed (can't get sugar fine
aragonite here), how much and what kind or types of lights do you recommend? Cost
is not an issue and I want the best lights for this setup to keep my corals live
and hardy.
<You are correct that the lighting needs of the corals you listed are inconsistent
with the lighting needs of clams, but this is not impossible to rectify. If
you choose VHO florescent lighting, you can keep the clam up high. If
you choose Metal Halide lighting, you will have to carefully acclimate some of
the corals to the intense light. 175 or 250w MH are probably a good
compromise, providing plenty of light for the clams, but not too intense for the
corals you wish to keep. I would probably choose to use three 175w MH
with supplemental VHO's.>
Since I live in Taiwan, I am accessible to many corals from mainly Indonesia. However,
not so true with good equipments and hardware since lacking numbers of true or
knowledgeable hobbyists. Many people here like myself buy and kill
many corals out of just not understanding. Your help is genuinely
appreciated.
<Glad to help. Please do make much use of the site and ask as many
questions as you need. Also, I highly recommend these books: "The
conscientious marine aquarist" by Bob Fenner and "The Reef
Aquarium" series by Delbeek and Sprung.>
If ever any of the crew is in Taiwan, look me up. Roy
<You may get more than you bargained for from that offer, Roy. The
crew does get after all! Best Regards. Adam>
- What is Moderate Lighting? -
Hi -- I am planning to get a 125 gal tank, 22" deep. The
corals that I'm most interested in are mostly LPS. I also like
mushrooms, zoanthids, Fungia, and a few of the soft corals. Most of
the things I like seem to be labeled moderate light. I don't have any
interest in having clams, and not much interest in SPS. (One or 2 of
the less light-demanding SPS would be nice if my lights allowed
it). I don't want to use metal halide & am trying to decide
between two PC options. One is the CustomSeaLife PC with the built in
moonlight, 4X96W. The other is an ABS PC system with
6X96W. Do you think 4X96W is adequate for what I want to do? <I
think LPS corals should do just fine under this lighting.> Or should I go for
the higher wattage? <Well, it will make things just a little brighter,
wouldn't hurt... but the 4-by would do just fine.>
Thanks for your help!
Beth
<Cheers, J -- >
Lighting Inverts (12/11/2003)
Thanks Steve, <my pleasure>
Drs Foster & Smith have the CSL Power Compact with Moon-Lite on
sale! I just ordered the 48" 4x65. <great> Will this be
enough to support an anemone? <No> I would really like one for my maroon
clownfish pair. <Do read carefully on WWM about the disadvantages an
environmental impact of attempting to keep anemones. (See here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm) Your
clownfish do not need one to thrive. Even if you get one, there is no guarantee
they will adopt it.>
What corals would you recommend with this light setup? <Few, if any SPS
corals. Groups that include low/moderate light species are LPS, Corallimorphs,
zoanthids. (Start here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm) Also,
consider Eric Borneman's book "Aquarium Corals" or Julian Sprung's
coral book for guidance.>
Just to let you know, here is what I have for fish. Yellow tang,
flame angel, maroon clown pair, yellow damsel, Bluefin damsel, and four yellow
tail damsels. <Getting crowded in there. Expect aggression as they grow. All
of these fish are prone to it. Also, the Angel may nip at your corals and your
feather duster.>
I also have a feather duster, cleaner shrimp, coral banded shrimp, 12 turbo
snails, bunch of Astrea snails, bunch of red/blue leg hermits, 3 emerald green
crabs, sally light foot crab, sand sifting sea star, 2 brittle sea stars. Does
my feather duster require any special "feeding?" <Target feeding is
a good idea. Search WWM for info. You clearly have an affinity for inverts (as
do I). You would really get a lot of great information from Bob & Anthony's
Reef Invertebrates book. If I were you, I'd buy it.>
I also have a bubble coral <Beautiful, but an aggressive stinger with long
sweeper tentacles. Keep several inches away from other corals>, Alveopora
coral <Not very hardy. Often waste away within a year, but not as bad as
Goniopora. Do read up on its needs.>, and yellow polyps <Potentially toxic
to you. Be careful. Search WWM for info. Also, will sting any other corals they
touch> on order from liveaquaria.com.
Thanks Steve. <You're welcome. BTW, I forget. Do you have a refugium. One
would be quite useful here.>
Daryl
Lighting for a 10 gallon reef - 12/4/03
Dear Mr. Fenner,
I have had a 10 gal. reef tank for 9 months now and can't seem to find adequate
lighting to suit the hardiest of invertebrates (mushrooms & anemones).
<Mushrooms yes but most if not all anemones are not exactly hardy and require
much aquarist interaction> I have tried using a 15W actinic03 tube with a 19W
Daylight "spiral" PC (socket bulb) combo but it doesn't seem to
maintain anything but the coralline and green algae that continuously grows in
the tank. <The 19w is likely too orange or yellow and most of the light
spectrum and energy are probably used up as heat.> I want to
upgrade to two PC bulbs what lighting option would you recommend? <Ahh, glad
you asked. I really like the CSL 2x40w enclosed PC lighting system even comes
with the Moonlite LED. I got mine from Marine Depot and enjoyed their service
very much. Should run about 120 smackers including shipping. This is the
lighting of choice for me and my two ten gallon nano reefs> Do you think the
CustomSeaLife 15 - 2 x 32 W Power Compact Retrofit would be adequate? <That
will work as that is what is on my ten gallon refugium, but again if you can get
more light for your tank (and about the same price if not just a teensy bit
more) then why not go for it?? Here is a link to the lights I am referring to: http://www.marinedepot.com/a_lt_pc_csl.asp?CartId=#pcml>
I am also currently experiencing a rapid outgrow of these little weird creatures
that are growing in the tank and attaching themselves on the live rock and sand.
<Look kind of like some type of hydroid. Maybe even a larval stage in
jellyfish. Hard to say from your sketch, but that is what it looks like.>
They look like fat oval featherdusters but do not retract and are about 3mm-5mm
long and growing. (see attachment for sketch) Do you know what this is? Is it
bad? <Not likely bad, but keep an eye on 'em once you start getting
corals> What can I do? <Likely nothing. They will probably wax and wane
with you water changes and the ever changing tank parameters. Happy holidays
~Paul>
Sincerely,
Henry Milian
Lighting Quandary...
Good morning guys! I have a couple quick questions for you, in
regards to my 20G nano. First off, I have a question about the
lighting that I can't seem to answer in spite of a lengthy search on here. When
I upgraded the lighting in my tank, I built a custom hood with 2 55W PC
ballasts, with a 50/50 mix of 03/10,000K. My livestock in regards to
corals is as follows-Pulsing Xenia, Anthelia colony, yellow polyp rock, various
mushrooms and a lime green Sarcophyton. After all the time I spent
building the hood, I am wondering if this is too much light for my particular
set-up. The toadstool loves the light, as do
the yellow polyps both are placed near the surface, in front of the return lines),
but the mushrooms and the Xeniid/anthelia colonies just don't seem to be opening
as well as they used to. The mushrooms are a bit shrunken/pale in
appearance, and although the xenia is growing, it no longer fully extends it's
stalks as it used to. I know that leathers appreciate brighter light
and
stronger current, as well as the polyps, but I am unsure of the particular
lighting requirements of the xenia. It is in an area of rather swift
current, and I'm wondering if this may be the culprit. Should I worry
this to death, or
keep as is?
<Well, I agree that the mushrooms will generally not appreciate high light
intensities. Personally, I would remove these animals to a separate tank which
is better suited for their needs. As far as the xenia is concerned, I have seen
and kept them under a variety of lighting schemes. Personally, if they are
carefully acclimated to higher light intensities, I do not believe that lighting
is a factor as much as water parameters, such as pH, etc. There are dozens of
theories out there on what makes xenia "tick", but it's probably a
combination of a number of factors, the majority of them being water-chemistry
related. Sure, you could experiment with backing down the light over the xenia
and gradually re-acclimating them to the brighter light...>
I love the look of the strong light, but it seems as though the
mushrooms and the Xeni/Anth were happier when I had a single 55 W PC fixture. I know
this is not an ideal selection of livestock in terms of lighting, but I figured
I could pull it off if I placed the light lovers close to the surface.
<Well, this can work in theory- but these animals inhabit different niches in
the wild, and really do best in systems dedicated to their specific needs.>
As far as chemical aggression goes, am I correct in thinking these corals with
the exception of the mushrooms) are fairly "peaceful" when it comes to
battling with other corals?
<Well, the Sarcophyton species produce literally dozens of potentially toxic
(to other corals) compounds. They can be quite aggressive, so sufficient space
between the Sarcophyton and other corals is imperative>
I know the yellow polyps will sting other corals, but
are they also guilty of releasing compounds into the water, as the
Corallimorphs?
<Yes they are. Parazoanthus species (the genus that these animals belong to)
are capable of releasing compounds into the water that are toxic even to
fishes.>
I have a 10 gallon refugium/DSB and I run a small bit of high grade carbon
weekly( to battle the chemical releases), along with a 2 gallon weekly water
change.
<Good methods to help alleviate the buildup of allelopathic compounds>
I would love to hear your opinions in regards to the lighting of this particular
set-up, as I feel a bit unsure here. All I want is what is best for
my livestock, as we all do. Thank you in advance for taking the time
to read this and give me your valuable two cents :)
<My pleasure! I would either relocate the mushrooms to a dedicated tank, or
I'd set up a "shady" area in the tank for these animals. In general, I
have never been a fan of mixing these guys with other corals>
P.S.-I have a green, almost yellow macro growing on my LR, and it appears to be
untouched by all my grazers, including my emerald crab. My best
description is as follows-"twisty"/branching fronds, very thick/sturdy
in appearance, with what appears to me as white "fuzz" on the leaf surface (rhizoids/roots?). I
also has scattered brown dots/pigment throughout the leaves, with no discernable
pattern. It is growing fast now, and spreading to other areas as we
speak. Hardly a nuisance, but nothing I want to leave unchecked. Any
thoughts would be welcomed!
<I'd love to see a picture of this stuff...I could probably make a pretty
accurate ID with a picture. I love many species of algae, but when it starts
spreading to different areas of the tank, it's time to start thinking about what
it is and how to control it...Please try to get a pic and we can
re-evaluate!>
Ohhhh, and I ALMOST forgot. One last hitchhiker ID for you
reefer maniacs. On one of my LR pieces from PA, there is a mat like
encrusting coral that has sprung back to life, and although I am psyched, I
would like to know what it is. When I first received the rock, it
appeared as an encrusting greenish stony color, with a honeycomb appearance to
it. It now is re-growing it's polyps, which resemble star polyps in
shape, although far smaller in size(1/16 inch across). I'm assuming
it's some sort of encrusting stony coral, but I have no clue what it is. Neat
looking though, and I'm excited to see this and many other life forms coming out
of my rock.
<It is cool to see these kinds of animals emerge from rock! Without seeing a
good picture, I can guess that it may be a form of Porites, which is a coral
that is commonly found in live rock. Other possibilities include Montastrea,
Goniastrea, and a few others. A good coral ID book, like Borneman's
"aquarium Corals" would help you make a positive ID on this coral.>
Anyways, thanks again guys...this site has helped me tremendously. Happy
holidays to you and yours...
-David Conners
<Glad to be of service, David! And a happy Holiday season to you! Regards,
Scott F>
Lighting and Cladiella 10/18/03
I have a 72 gal reef tank with soft corals; colts, leathers and mushrooms. I
have just add a small refugium with Chaetomorpha and Gracilaria. All
my softs have done very well for the last 6 months and still are. I added one
Cladiella 3 weeks ago and it hasn't done well at all. It constantly has dropped
over. It has never stood erect.
<often a lack of adequate water flow... have you achieved 10-20X turnover in
the tank?>
I carefully place into he tank and have never moved it. Most of the time it has
it polyps extended but every once in a while it will puff up. It is at least 6
inches from any colt. I was told that Cladiella are a beginners coral
and easily kept. I also use
Phytoplex twice a week.
<Hmmm... I have serious doubts about any product that is sold warm and
without a date/expiration... especially food products. Do consider culturing
your own phyto, or buying a product that is sold refrigerated and dated (DT's.
etc)>
This would be my second failed attempt with a Cladiella. I am not sure what I am
doing wrong?
<not sure... were they both from the same supplier?>
Also, I 440 watt of PC lighting 4-55watt 03 actinic and 4-55watt 10k. I was
wonder if this would be a bad thing to done or not. I was consider running 6-55
03atinincs and 2-55watt 10ks.
<the heavy blue is not needed or useful other than aesthetics. Daylight
6500-10K is best>
The reason I ask is because I prefer the purple look of the 03 actinics compared
to bright white of the 10ks.
<agreed... but the corals/zooxanthellae service on the PAR of daylight>
I would not want to do this if it was bad for overall tank. Or will I get a more
purple out of my 03s if I used them with 6500K instead of 10K?
<I don't expect you would>
Please let me know your thoughts -Ron
<best of luck, Anthony>
Enough light? 10/15/03
hey I got a question for you guys I have a 65 reef tank my lighting consist
of one 175 watts metal halide 10k and two sets of power compacts that are 50/50
55 watts I'm getting about 4.3 watts per gallon maybe more my question is that
enough watts to start raising sps and lps corals and clams please help thank you
in advance.
<to succeed in the long run, you really need to resist an unnatural mix of
all corals indiscriminately like LPS & SPS & Clams... especially in a
small/med reef like this. Please pick a specific group or simulate a specific
region or niche. At the very least, make coral selections by light needs (High
light SPS and clams... medium light soft corals... low light LPS/Corallimorphs.
To that end, I can say that yes, many corals will live under a single 175 watt
MH over this tank. Be sure that your lights are installed properly: MH at
6-9" off water surface... fluorescents no higher than 3" off water.
Best regards, Anthony>
Light Conversation...
By the term "low light" how much light are we talking about.
<It can be "moderate", to downright dark (as in the case of Dendronephthya)...For our purposes, it usually means not "shockingly
bright" (as in two 400 watt halides over a 24 inch tall tank!>
I am looking to keep lps corals (bubble, hammer, torch and the like). I
currently have 130 watts of pc light and was not looking forward to upgrading.
<Should be just fine for most LPS and softies. I wouldn't worry about your
lighting...You can mix up different spectrum bulbs as needed/desired>
Could you suggest some inverts that I can keep with my
current lighting? 55 gal tank 130 wt pc light
10 gal refugium 20 gal sump
50 lbs live rock
yellow tang
coral beauty
false Percula
thanks in advance
<Well, you have a variety of choices here...Consider many of the Corallimorphs, various LPS, such as Brain Corals, etc. I suggest a copy of
Anthony's "Book of Coral Propagation", or Eric Borneman's
"Aquarium Corals" for plenty of great information...Have fun! Regards,
Scott F.>
Lighting for corals and anemones - 10/05/03
I looked and I can't seem to find the answer, I have a 75 gal for lighting I
have a smart light with 2 65 watt 50/ 50 bulbs a eco system on it a 100 gal
protein skimmer and a 304 canister is my lighting enough for red based anemones?
<Likely not. There are many arguments for properly lighting various
invertebrates, but one thing for sure, there is not enough light in you tank for
invertebrate sustainability, sorry to say. To put it into perspective, I have a
20 gallon with two 65 watt 50/50s on it and can sustain a fair amount of soft
corals. There is more to it than just light but again, I can easily say this is
not near enough for this type of life in a 75 gallon tank. Research your
inhabitants before purchasing as to know where to place, foods, and general
environment, but be sure to up the lighting as well.> Can I do
coral to or need more lighting? <More light is needed even for low light
corals, unless you plan to do heterotrophic corals. More research is needed. The
answer is out there - Paul>
Light Conversation...
Hello and thank you in advance for your help.
<A pleasure. Scott F. with you today!>
I want to upgrade the lighting on my 65g (36lx18wx24h). I currently have 4
36" VHO's (2-actinic & 2-10,000K). I am slowly growing many soft corals
(Xenia, polyps, leathers, etc..) and a few LPS corals (torch coral, Galaxea). I
have been reading your FAQ, but am a little confused because sometimes you
suggest up to a 250 watt MH bulb and other times you mention not to use any MH
bulbs in a tank similar to this size. I'm sure the reason has to do with the
types of corals and the exact size of the tank. I would like to add few
SPS corals (Acropora), but I plan on keeping my softies. I'm leaning
towards a 175watt 10,000K and keeping up my existing 2 96watt actinics and 2
96 watt 10,000K's. I sure would hate to buy the 175 watt and later wish I had
the 250 watt, but on the other side I don't want to hurt the softies either.
What do you think?
Thanks, Jeff
<Well, Jeff, the conventional wisdom says not to mix softies and SPS at all!
I suppose that in a tank of this size, you could go with 250 watt halides. On my
20" tall tank, I've been using 3 150 watt HQI pendants and get amazing
growth from my SPS corals. My friends tell me that I should have bought 250
watters, but the "proof is in the pudding", as they say! Go with what
works for your budget and potential future animals. True, you can' have too much
light, but you don't want to melt your tank, either! Your idea of 1 175watt and
the actinics sounds fine to me...But it's your call! Regards, Scott F.>
Lights and Hoods? - 8/20/03
Hello
<howdy!>
I have been reading a lot of your wonderful suggestions on various lighting. It
seems that MH lights 10K are a common theme when trying to illuminate a tank for
most inverts.
<correct and fair to say... a safe choice>
Also, it seems to be recommended to hang them 6-12"'s
above.
<yes... 9" being ideal for many for optimal spread versus intensity>
My question concerns the prefabricated hood which are fan- cooled and perhaps
stand three inches at best above the glass canopy. Is this a problem, say in a
46g bow tank?
<hmmm... it depends on the species of invert being kept. Some will favor or
tolerate it... others will suffer light shock. And the lamps have a worse spread
the closer they are to the water (not maximizing light delivery). For such
fixtures... simply prop them up or suspend them higher to get your
6-12">
...
and more specifically would a 175w 10k Aqualine bulb be enough for soft corals
and perhaps an anemone (Haddon or bubble tip)...
<it would likely be enough for either, but you must know that the anemone
should not be kept in a tank with corals. Motile cnidarians (the anemones) are a
recipe for disaster with sessile ones. Issues of movement, allelopathy and
simply catastrophe from the inevitable walk through the reef full of corals.
Anemones need species tanks>
...
or should it be supplemented with a pair of NO, VHO, or PC's and if so 6500k or
actinic?
<only for aesthetics if you like>
As always tanks a lot for the great advice. Regards, Steve
<best regards, Anthony>
-Lighting a 30g-
hi, I just started a 30 gallon salt water tank and am thinking of going the
reef route. I keep hearing that I need more light than what I have
now, which is a Marineland 120 vac 60 hz 20 watt lid and bulb.
<That you do>
like I said it is a30 gal dim 30x18 1/2x12. I have about 25 -30 lbs
of LR and some cleaning critters ( sally lightfoots, Mithrax crabs, hermits and
snails) I've had the tank up for two weeks and trying to let it mature all my
testing is within acceptable range I would like to hear your suggestions on
lighting. please keep in mind that I am new to saltwater aquariums and don't
quite understand all the jargon yet
<Will do! First off, if this is an eclipse hood (light and filter built into
a single unit) you'll need to remove it to get any reasonable lighting. I'd
suggest a pair of 55 or 65w power compact lamps. Both Custom Sealife and
Coralife make 30" plug-n-play units with this lighting. You'll be able to
keep a wide variety of photosynthetic invertebrates, sounds good aye? Also,
check out the various lighting articles in our vast inventory! Good luck!
-Kevin>
thank you
Marty m
-Lighting an invert tank-
hi bob, <How are you? Kevin here>
I have a 75gallon fish/invertebrate tank-only cycled though. its one
week old and has 2 peppermint shrimp and 3 damsels. <Ooo, shrimp so soon?
Tanks don't cycle in a week and you still could have a bit of an ammonia or
nitrite spike, even w/ live rock and sand.> the LFS guy ordered
lights for me but they still haven't come in and I am getting
nervous. I have read the section on lighting in your book and know
that I need btwn 225 and 375w. I need 1 blue actinic and 3 full
spectrum bulbs. you also suggest an electronic ballast with
dimmer/timer. I hope this is correct so far.
<Well, this setup will be fine for an invert tank w/ live rock, but you'll
need more than this for most coral and anemones should you want to keep
them.>
here's my problem/question:
I get confused when I go on lighting sites to order. I don't know
what to order. can you give me some recommendations with specifics?
<Since you have no coral or any other photosynthetic invert you don't have to
be in a huge rush for lighting. I'd go with a power compact lighting system,
with four 55 or 65w power compact lamps. Coralife and Custom Sea Life both make
inexpensive hoods of this nature with internal cooling fans. This setup would
allow you to keep a broad spectrum of coral should you want them. Otherwise a
single strip with two 55 or 65w power compacts brightens things up nicely. I
hope this helps a little! -Kevin>
thanks, robin
Reef Lighting Decisions: UV or NO? 7/18/03
Hello
<cheers>
what do you thing of lighting my 90 cube reef tank with 150W 13000 MH+
Philips tl05 (spectral characteristic enclosed).
<its not much light... and it is too blue/cool IMO for many popular
reef invertebrates. If this is going to be a mixed garden reef aquarium,
300-400 watts of light at 7-10K would be better>
how many watts of this should I use with glass filter or no
<The admission of UV or not depends entirely on the species being
kept... and some experimentation. Some corals need UV to maintain
handsome/natural color... others are not favored by it>
Stefan Fournier has written something about it in Koralle magazine 7/2001
do you know something about it, because this light has a lot of uv rays
but it can simulate corals to fluorescent brightly
best regards
<pick your species first and do try to replicate a reef niche (shallow
water sps, deep water LPS etc) for best success. Kindly, Anthony> |
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- 250's Too Much for Softies? -
Hi guys, Thanks for the help in the past.
<Kevin here today, ready to help again!>
I have a couple of lighting questions. I have a standard 75g which
houses mostly soft corals with a few LPS. I'm currently running 6 *
65 W PC's (mix of actinic and 10000K). The tank has been
running for over 2 years with no signs of trouble. I'm
interested in moving on to SPS so am in the process of upgrading my lights to
MH. Another big factor in this decision is having to spend almost
$300 every 6 months just to change the PC lamps.
<Yes, lamp changing isn't the best time of the year, but depending on what
kind of PC's you're running, you may be able to safely stretch that o 8-10
months.>
Regardless of what the manufacturer says, I notice a significant difference in
the amount of light after the 6 to 7 month mark.
<Oh, never mind, there's your answer.>
Anyway, I just ordered a MH dual 500W ballast (250W*2). After reading
a bit on your site I realized that 2 250W metal halide lamps may be too much and
burn some of my softies that I've grown to love (mauve finger leather, devils
hand, colt, Capnella, various mushrooms, and polyps.
<If you stick the lamps right on top of the water with a full 8 hour
photoperiod you will, but if you simply acclimate everything to the lighting you
will have no problems.>
I'm thinking of going with 2 175W lamps coupled with 130W of PC actinic just
because I like the blue hue in the tank. My order may have shipped
already which means I'm stuck with the 500W ballast unless I shell out the
original $50 for shipping plus the additional cost to send it back then an
additional $50 to get the dual 175W ballast. Can I still use the 2
250W bulbs but mount them higher in the canopy (10" to 12"), maybe use
20K bulbs and exclude the PC actinics?
<Regardless of which lamps you choose I'd start the lamps at 20+ inches off
of the tank on a 2 hour photoperiod, and over the course of a few weeks, slowly
changing to your normal 8-10 hour photoperiod. After that the lights can be
lowered at an inch or so per day until it is at the desired height. No biggie,
as long as you take it slow you won't have to worry about UV burn, active O2
poisoning, etc.>
Can I use 175W bulbs in the 250W ballast or is this dangerous
play? If so will it consume just as much electricity as the
250W bulbs? <They won't work>
The last questions I have involves retrofitting a 48" JBJ strip
light. I'm sure you are familiar with the JBJ Formosa 48"
light. I was thinking of removing one strip (2 PC lamps) and mounting
the two MH lamps in it's place. I would then take the acrylic/plastic
lens to a glass shop and have them cut a piece of tempered glass to replace the
original lens in order to shield off UV rays. The strip light has two
fans in it already. Do you think it's worth a try or just a stupid
idea.
<It would melt down, don't do that!>
I could keep the other 2 PC's for actinic or remove them as well depending on
which bulb I use for the MH (either 1000K or 20000K). Any advise
would be appreciated.
<I'd go with 10k lamps, you'll lose much of the intensity if you choose a
higher Kelvin lamp. Retrofitting PC actinics somewhere will work on the blue for
you.>
You guys are doing a great thing for the hobby. Reef keeping seems to
be booming and you are providing a great service to both people and ultimately
the animals they keep.
<We hope so! Good luck with the new lighting and I wish you great success.
-Kevin>
Thanks,
Ralph
Lighting Clams and Stonies
Hi,
Marion here. I have been a reef keeper for some years now, working with SO
fluorescents. I am going to upgrade my lighting system this summer. I would like
to start keeping hard corals and clams as well. My problem is this....I simply
cannot afford Metal Halides at this time (and probably for some time to come).
Is there ANYTHING I can use in it's place that will work as well for the animals
I want to keep?
<Some LPS and SPS corals can be kept under PC lights if kept high in the
tank. I would not attempt clams. Don>
- Leather color change & bubble coral help -
Hi there,
I have a 29 gallon mini reef tank set up with about 20 pounds of live rock and a
good thick crushed coral / live sand base. The water quality is
excellent. The lighting is 165W provided by 3 - 55W power compacts (2
actinic, and 1- 10K). Filtration is by way of a protein skimmer and a hang on the
back filter. Two power heads - in addition to the filter returns -
are used for water circulation.
I have two problems that I am unclear of and any advice would be
great!
Firstly I have a green finger leather that was a neon green when I purchased
it. I've had it for about 3 months now and although it is growing
(has gone from about 4 fingers to approximately a dozen) it has dulled
considerably in color. In fact, it's now a dark
green. It's also shrunk in height (but has gained
width). It's positioned closer to the top of the tank.<It was
either a tad bleached when you purchased it, or it is simply increasing it's
zooxanthellae concentration in it's tissues because of your lighting.>
My questions about this coral are: Is this color change
normal? Are they some how artificially "dipped" before sale
to give them the neon glow? My pet store advised me that this may
happen, but was unsure. It's a shame the color has left this animal
as it was a beautiful piece when I purchased it. <Almost any coral you put
into your tank will go through a color change to some extent. I would suspect
that it would retain a lighter color under metal halide lighting.>
Secondly I have a large pearl bubble coral with 5
"heads". When I purchased this coral all "heads"
were alive, although not fully inflated. Since I have placed it in my
tank only one of the heads has inflated fully. Two of the remaining 4
struggle, and the other two appear dead. My main concern is that the
stalk has changed from primarily white with some coralline algae to a
dirty green. There does not appear to be algae growing on the outside
of the stalk - more so the color is within the tissue of the animal
itself. This color change now appears to be moving higher on the
stalk and is entering the head regions. <Simply algae colonizing the most
valued real estate on the reef: exposed coral skeleton.>
What exactly is this? Is it a disease that can be easily treated and
cured? I'd rather keep at least one of the polyps alive and not lose
the entire coral if possible. <It's not a disease, just algae doing what
algae does. Good luck! -Kevin>
Any help you could provide would be fantastic. Thank you.
Reef Lighting
Aloha,
<Greetings.>
I have a 75 Gallon tank. I am not wanting to take a shortcut on lighting. I want
to keep some SPS and clams. I keep my house cool (about 70 degrees) I will have
4 - 4" fans in my custom enclosed canopy over the tank (hanging pendant- style
out of the question unfortunately). My canopy will be about 8 to 12 inches over
the tank. I plan to purchase a sheet of polished aluminum and line the entire
inside with it. <I'd get it at least coated with something... aluminum and
saltwater don't mix well.> On to the lighting... I would like to retrofit 2 -
175watt 10,000K metal halides. Complementing that, I can either buy an
Icecap
430 and run 2 110watt actinics, OR I can purchase a 660 and run 2 110watt
actinics PLUS 2 110watt 10,000K bulbs along with the halides. Is this overkill?
<Hard to discern... you probably don't 'need' the extra 10K fluorescents.>
Again, I would like a T. maxima or T. crocea in the near future. But I don't want to
burn the SPS corals. <Make shady areas with the rock work OR drop one of the metal
halides and light with the other on one side of the tank only, and then perhaps
use the 10K VHOs on the side that doesn't have the MH lighting.> OK, if
you're
still with me, back to the MH. I have heard about UV rays, so I assume I will
have to build some sort of UV lens for my MH. <That is correct.> Is this a
special type of material or could I use a piece of acrylic? <I would use
glass - acrylic will likely melt being that close to a lamp. Glass is available
with a UV-filtering coating.> I could build a " box" over each bulb
with it. Not sure if the bulb would melt it though. <It would.> I really
don't want a piece of glass or acrylic over my entire water surface. I want
evaporation for Kalk top-offs and cooling factor (with the fans blowing across
the top of the water). <You might need to rethink this, with fans sucking hot
air out of the canopy.> I am trying to come up with a plan to where I do not
have to use a chiller, but get sufficient lighting. <I'd skip the canopy and
instead light from above with adequate space for more fans. You will soon see
that the canopy becomes a trap for heat, and you largest problem will be getting
the heat out of the collector.> I have so many ideas in my head so if you
could blindfold me, spin me around 15 times and point me in the right direction,
that would be super cool groovyrific!! <Again... if SPS is part of your
goals, then skip the second MH. Light that side with only fluorescents. You will
still have issues with heat... you may need more fans or you may even need a
chiller. Time will tell.> Mahalo,
Jason
<Cheers, J -- >
Lighting upgrade!
Hey guys! I have a simple question today. I am going to upgrade my
lighting soon and I would like your advice on what to add. I currently have a
65G (36wx18dx24h) reef tank with mostly soft corals and stony polyp corals, but
I want to start on some hard corals after upgrading the lighting. I currently
have 4x96 watt VHO (2 actinic and 2 10,000K).
<FYI those 96w lamps are referred to as power compacts. VHO lamps look like
standard output fluorescents and have 2 pins on each side (as opposed to 4 pins
on a single side on power compacts.)>
Before I purchase anything I would like your recommendations. Do you think just
one (400 watt) would be OK or would two (150, 175 or 250 watt each) be better
because it will spread the light more evenly throughout the tank.
<That's the age old question with 3' tanks. I'd recommend a pair of 250's or
175's.>
With the lighting hardware I have now and what your recommending; what mix of
actinic and high output (5500K, 6000K, 6500K, 10000K, 12000K, or 20000K) bulbs
do you recommend?
<I'd use 10k or 6.5k lamps in combination with actinic fluorescents. A nice
combination would be a pair of 250w 10k Aqualine Buschke metal halides with a
pair of 3' VHO actinics. Have fun with the new lighting! -Kevin>
Regards,
Jeff McHenry
Reef lighting clarification for 2003
>Hi Gents,
>>Pardon me, we have a few ladies offering our invaluable service as well,
Fred! ;-) Marina is the one this morning.
>Awesome site, you've been invaluable to me, and thousands of others I am
sure. My question relates to aquarium lighting, specifically reef. I
have a small 29g reef tank, which has been up for several years. The tank is the
typical DSB with LR, and lightly stocked with some inverts, BTA, Ocellaris,
Scooter Blenny, and several shrimp. Corals are low light Kenya's, mushrooms, and
polyps. It is lit by 2x65 PCs, 10K and Actinic.
>>Sounds good to me.
>I have read numerous comments by folks at WWM and respected authors like
Joyce Wilkerson, and many seem to be indicating that VHO's and MH's are 'reef
lighting'. I am at a loss why PC's for relatively shallow tanks would
not be considered, since they are similar/identical to VHO's in their physical
makeup, and the type of light they produce.
>>I think they may have failed to qualify their statements. Back
in the day I used normal output fluorescents, and even mixed shoplights to
achieve the spectral qualities needed for my T. derasa and LPS (large polyp
stony--corals), with very good results. Light intensity/brightness
(measured in lumens or lux), spectral quality (what peaks of what parts of the
spectrum does the particular bulb put out), and color temperature (as measured
in Kelvin--as compared against sunlight) are what is important, more so than HOW
it is achieved, my friend. The type of lighting you speak of (most
folks I know would choose power compacts over VHO's, btw) is generally
considered "necessary" for growing particular tridacnids and,
generally, SPS (small polyp stony corals).
>My understanding is that they are fluorescent lights in a physical form
factor that is simply denser than standard VHO's, hence the higher output.
>>Your understanding and mine are in agreement.
>I am just your average novice reefer, yet my tank has produced probably 150+
mushrooms, great polyp growth, a couple of dozen Kenya frags, and my BTA has
split twice, and one of its splits has recently split.
>>Oh, do share! It's heartening to hear of success stories with
the delicate cnidarians.
>Am I missing something, or did I just buy an extremely well established
tank?
>>Nope, you're not missing something. You're doing things VERY
right, thus proving my "As much art as science" philosophy to keeping
all creatures aquatic.
>P.S. This is a terrible hobby. It's so bad that my
wife is now telling -me- we need to get a much bigger tank when we buy our house
shortly.... And I haven't told her yet that the other bedrooms aren't going to
need pink or blue wallpaper, 'cause we're gonna be Clown breeders!
>>Hooray! Yes, it soon goes beyond anything resembling a
"hobby", and can soon come under the heading of "pathology". LOL!
>Thanks for the excellent service.
>>Most welcome, Fred. And thank you for your input! Marina
10000k Is The Way (Lighting Shallow Water Inverts)
Hi,
<Hi there! Scott F. in today>
I have 50 gal reef tank and I am building a cabin with a metal halide light of
175watts. If I would like to keep some sunlight loving invertebrates, what is
the temperature of bulb should I use (6000K ; 10000K; 14000K)?
<If you're dealing with shallow water inverts, I suppose the optimum spectrum
would be the 10000k>
Should I put 2 actinic 30W fluorescent with it ?
<Strictly an aesthetic preference...No real benefit, IMO, especially if you
are using full spectrum bulbs, such as the 10000k for your primary light
source>
Thank you for your help!!!! Steve Timmons
<My pleasure, Steve! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Question on reef lighting
Hi have you ever heard of a Jebo hood Jebo is the name of the manufacture
anyways I'm getting one for my reef it's PC 4*55 watts I'm thinking I'm going to
go to 65 watts when these burn out anyways what bulbs would you
recommended for this setup of mushrooms sun polyps zoanthids and pulsing xenias?
thanks JM
<Jebo is a fine brand from what I have heard/read. Before you jump to 65W you
need to make sure the ballast in the hood will drive them (call Jebo). I would
combine 10000K and Actinic lighting above the corals you list. After that, the
brand is up to you as it can be very subjective to the individual eye. I would
check around at what others are using in their tanks so you can see what it
looks like to you. Hope this helps Don>
Shedding A Little Light ON T5 Fluorescents
Hi folks,
<Hello! Scott F. with you today!>
Thanks for your excellent website ... it's become daily reading and I'm in
serious danger of 'late arrival' if I treat myself to a quick (ha!) look before
leaving for work in the morning.
<I can relate!>
Can I ask a very basic question? In the near future (I hope) I'm going to treat
myself to a 5' x 2' x 2' tank to replace my Rio 180. This will be for soft
corals and fish...
<Sounds like my kind of tank!>
and so I'm going for T5 fluorescent lighting, built into the hood. My LFS
makes excellent tanks, and they come complete with sliding cover glasses.
Providing I keep these algae free is their impact on
lighting quality (e.g. filtering out UV) to be ignored. Thanks,
Brian
<Good question, Bryan. I have not personally used T5's yet, but if we use
some of the common "wisdom" applied to the use of VHO fluorescents,
I'd venture to say that you might lose some qualities of the light (perhaps some
spectral characteristics or intensity) if it is filtered by a cover glass. May
be a better route to use water proof end caps and go sans cover glass. You may
want to post on the WWM Forum to see what other T5 users are doing...Be sure to
share your findings on this! Regards, Scott F
Need your Advice on Reef Tank Lighting
After reading your Q&A I'm more confused then ever. I have
set up a reef tank using a 44 gal. Pentagon tank. Please give advise
as to 1 light which will accommodate all corals not matter which corals I decide
to buy. Tank depth is 24", widest point of tank is 30"
corner to corner.
<Sorry, Denise, it is simply not possible to do this. Corals are classified
by light needs and mixing low light needing corals with high light needing is
not recommended. The best all around lighting in my opinion is metal halide. I
would think that a 10000K 175W for low to medium need corals and a 250W for high
need corals. You can supplement this with actinic (PC or VHO) if you like. Write
back if you have more, Don>
Denise
MH lighting/ inexpensive bulbs
Hi again crew!
I stumbled across this web site:
http://www.animalnetwork.com/fish2/aqfm/1999/may/product/default.asp
Is there any validity to this article? Being a "Poor Man" myself, I'd
like to save as much as I can on lighting. Especially on the over-priced higher
temperature "aquarium" metal halide bulbs compared to their
drastically cheaper lower temp. counterparts. Input would be great.
<Some of this is alright, but some inaccurate. Blue acrylic doesn't produce
blue light, it filters light and par and does not actually produce blue spectrum
lighting. Comparing Corallife bulbs is not accurate, as these bulbs
are *rated* as 10K, but are neither 10K or produce the same par as comparable
bulbs. They picked a weakling to compare to. Most folks recommend
Iwasaki's for growth and bluer bulbs (10K, 14K, 20K) for
*appearance*. You may also want to look into T-5 compact fluorescent
bulbs as an alternative. Try shopping our sponsors or on the web for
bulb specials. There are few
good shortcuts! Craig>
Lighting Question
Hello All,
>Hello yourself!
I have a lighting question for y'all. I was reading in the MH faq's
that the duration of lighting for metal halides would be in the 4 to 7 hour a
day range.
>Have you also seen these? --> http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/growingcorals.htm
>Also, please try the library at--> http://www.reefs.org/library there
should be some good information available there or in the forums. (As
well as our forums at--> http://www.wetwebfotos.com/talk
)
I will be keeping sps, Montipora, Blue Maxima clams sitting on the sand, housed
in of a 24" deep 90 gallon tank. I will be using 2 250W 10,000K
bulbs about 12 inches from the top of the water. If the 4 to 7 hour
range is correct, what should I do for the rest of the time up to the 12 hour
daily lighting??
>I would suggest considering a mix of lighting that includes power compact
fluorescent lighting. With it you could include actinics that would
allow you to simulate daybreak and dusk. This will give you the
flexibility to more accurately reproduce equatorial lighting (though it's
difficult to reproduce all the variables of weather--cloud cover and such).
Also, for shading any type of corals that may not enjoy the bright light, I see
references to using vinyl screens for shading them. Will this be okay
under the heat of the light?? They won't burn up?
>Glass can also be used, I'm a bit incredulous of vinyl as I'm imagining it,
too.
As always thank you. I find it amazing that you guys don't get paid
for this..... Thank you, Paul
>HINT-HINT! LOL!! Yeah, us, too. You're
quite welcome, I hope this has been a bit helpful, and good
luck! Marina
55 gallon tank, PC 4x96 watt for corals
Hi guys,
My question is short. I have a 55 gal. tank
(36''x13.5''x24'') which has been running for a year,
with a 6 line wrasse, two red head gobies, with
assorted hermit crabs and snails. I am currently
running 2 96 watt smart lamps. I would like to start
trying my hand at some hardy corals. How much light
do I need to upgrade too? I was thinking of either
getting a 4 tube 96 watt hood, or getting a double and
continuing to run one of my singles. Would the 4 tube
system be too much? Or could I get by with 3 tubes?
Any advice would be welcome. I'm just afraid of over
lighting the tank.
<Rick, you really need to research what kind of corals you
want to keep. Your current lighting would be great for low
light Corallimorphs (mushrooms) and some polyps/soft corals.
But even the 4x96 would not be enough for some SPS corals.
My recommendation would be to get a copy of Anthony Calfo's
Book of Coral Propagation Vol 1 and/or Eric Borneman's Aquarium Corals.
Both excellent references and reads. Good Luck, Don>
Best regards,
Rick
Lighting Coral 3/24/03
How much lighting do you need for a 50 gallon salt water tank that is going
to have coral in it? Thank you in advance.
<the light required is relative to the needs of the specific corals you will
put in the tank. Various corals have various needs. Decide on your livestock
first, my friend and Use this article and the links/archives at the top of the
page for guidance:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm
best regards, Anthony>
3, 175 watt MH enough
I just purchased a used 150 gal tank and plan on making it a reef
tank...this tank is the long type and is only 24 in high...will a triple
175 MH hood be enough for most corals?
Rob
< This will be fine for many LPS and soft corals. If you want SPS
I would upgrade to 3 250 watters. Cody>
Moving lights and coral - 3/24/03
Hi <Hi there. Paul swimming in to answer your questions> I wanted to
move all my live rock further back instead of all in the front of the tank and
wondered if moving the rock with the mushrooms on it would effect them since the
colony is on a rock way at the top of the tank will it effect them? <Well it
could....but mushrooms and zoanthids are very hardy......I would go for it. Take
in to consideration the flow as well.> I have the sun bulb in front of the
tank and actinic bulb towards the back gonna switch that to actinic in front and
sun bulb in back will this hurt the mushrooms also <wait.....sounds like
right now you have the sun bulb in front, where the corals are currently right?
Now you stated that you are moving the sun bulb and the coral more to the back
of the tank is that correct? If that is the case then this will be fine as it
sounds like the coral is basically going to be in the same environment as it was
in before, just further in the back of the tank right?> thanks JM
Lighting for anemone
I am thinking of buying a VHO 2x75watt fixture from one of your sponsors for a
26gal tank. I want to keep a anemone. Should I get one actinic
[75watt] and one daylight [75watt] bulb or one daylight and one 50/50[75watt] or
maybe two 50/50 bulbs? Thank you very much, Steve
<I would recommend a captive bred/cloned bubble tip anemone. I suggest one
50/50 and one actinic blue bulb. Get the electronic ballast (Ice Cap)
to allow for future growth or the addition of a third bulb (50/50) if needed.
PLEASE make sure you read all you can about anemones and their care and feeding
before you adopt one! Have fun! Craig>
MH reef lighting
I would like to thank you for all your help. This is truly a great site and
all of you need to be commended for your labors.
<thanks kindly <G>>
I have a lighting question that hopefully you can help me with. I currently have
a 75-gallon tank with 4-96 watt power compacts for lighting. I have a good
growth of yellow polyps, star polyps, Xenia (growing like a weed), mushrooms
(doing well in the lower light areas), Four different Zoanthids, cup coral and
fish. I would like to switch to MH lighting for the aesthetics. I could also use
one or two of the 96 watt PC's for a little actinic. My dilemma is choosing
between double end HQI and single end MH bulbs and fixtures. What would you
recommend for the animals I have listed above?
<the double ended lamps are better IMO>
150 watt HQI or 175 watt SE?
<HQI>
How deep could I place a clam lit with a 150 watt HQI MH if the clam was
centered under the light?
<depends on the species of clam... derasa and Hippopus can go lower. None
below 20" IMO/IME for long term success>
How about a 175 watt MH?
<no difference>
Would 250 watt HQI be too much light for the listed inhabitants?
<likely yes... or at least, more than is needed>
Thanks in advance for your help.
<kindly, Anthony>
Re: lights crammed together!!
My plans for the tank? Well, last year when I first set it up, all sorts of
plant life grew and grew, including many interesting leafed plants. Today, a
year later, not a single green sprout to be found! I figured this was due to the
lack of wattage. What do you think?
<I think 300W would support most macro algae and plant life over a 75G
(20" deep right?)>
PS. I haven't changed the bulbs in this time.
<If these are power compact fluorescent bulbs, they should be changed about
6-9 months>
Pam
PPS. I want to have a nice variety of hard and soft corals if possible, and I
don't want to be hindered by lack of light.
<By placing the corals at different depths you should be able to keep most Corallimorphs
(mushrooms), polyps, soft, and a few LPS corals. Put the
low/medium light need corals at the bottom/middle and the high light need
middle/top. If you are going to keep SPS metal halide would be recommended.>
By the way, the link you sent me didn't do much for providing info on
covers/lights. Are you trying to tell me to do the research myself? Hmmmm.
Okay!
<At the top of the page are links to our site sponsors. These folks can talk
to you about your needs and direct you to an appropriate product. If
you want to read our info/FAQs on lighting start here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine
click on Setup and toward the bottom of the setup page is info on lighting. Hope
this helps. Don>
Lights crammed together!!
Bingo Don!!! Great link, thank you for all you've done for me today!
Pam
<Great to hear, Pam. Do update me/us on how this goes, Don>
Reef Light Recommendations- mixed
I'm sorry, forgot to mention it's a 125 gallon tank which right
now has mostly mushrooms, colt, and a Ritteri anemone but I want to
eventually try clams.
<I must admit that I'm concerned to hear that the Ritteri is mixed with
corals. Not only are they incompatible with regard for allelopathy (chemical
aggression). But they are also incompatible regarding lighting needs (VERY high
light for this anemone yet very low light for mushrooms and also fairly low for
colt coral). Also... it is entirely inappropriate to mix sessile stinging
animals (corals) wit a motile stinging cnidarians (the anemone). It is quite
frankly a recipe for disaster in the long run. I have seen it too many times in
15 years as a merchant and a mentor. My advice is to remove the anemone to a
species-specific tank. A shallow 50 gallon by a window with a single MH lamp
would be excellent>
Would I be better off putting the lights a little higher up?
<becuase of the mixed needs of the corals and anemone, the question cannot
fairly be answered... something will suffer>
Also, do you know if the AB 10K bulbs are bluer than the Ushio
10K?
<the new Ushios are color-corrected for green (less of it) and both have a
handsome blue-white cast IMO.>
I prefer a blue tint and plan on leaving the 2 96W PC actinics on
as well as the three 250W MH. Does that sound feasible?
<if you like a distinct blue color, consider 20K Radiums. Excessive blue...
but excellent for many corals>
Thanks again for all your help. Tom
<best regards, Anthony>
N.O. fluorescents with corals
Hi guys hope you all are doing good! I have 5 normal out put fluores (1
actinic, 1 50-50 10 000K, 3 daylight) all 36 watt bulbs, this is atop of my 55
gallon tank, could you please list corals that will do fine under this lighting,
thanks, P.S- I know that Sinularia, Sarcophyton etc should do ok but I just need
some more names :-)
<hmmm... so many corals. On one hand... most any coral will live here... and
on the other hand very few. The dilemma with fluorescent lighting is light
penetration. You can tell me that you have 100 NO bulbs over this tank and I
will still call it low light if you are trying to keep many corals below the top
6-10" of water. NO bulbs just don't penetrate water that deep. In answer to
your question in gross terms... most Corallimorphs and Zoantharians will survive
well in the top half of the tank. Very few sps clams or corals will survive at
all here in the long run. And many soft corals will fare well like the mushrooms
and button polyps if kept in the top half of the water. I regret that I cannot
be more specific with the amount of mail we get here every day... there are
several hundred corals to list! Do get a good book on the subject. Eric
Borneman's Aquarium Corals has pictures on all popular species. My Book of Coral
Propagation (few pics, 450 pages text) details the lighting and husbandry
requirements of every popular genera of coral in the trade. If you'd care to
write back with a dream list of corals, we'll help you sort it. With kind
regards, Anthony>
Lighting Recommendations for a 75 Gallon Reef
I am new to saltwater tanks and just ordered a 75 gallon Oceanic RR tank. I
am finding out that there doesn't seem to be a short answer to the lighting
question. What I would like to know is, if you had a new 75 gallon tank and you
were buying lighting for it, what type of lighting would you go with?
<It would all depend on what I would want to keep in the tank.>
I am going to set up a reef tank (LR & LS) with inverts, a few common fish,
and some common corals. I have no plans to put anything extraordinary in the
tank, as I am new to all of this. Any help you can provide would be appreciated.
I am going crazy in the land of MH's, VHO's, PC's, etc, etc, etc.
<I wish I could be of more assistance, but all lighting needs to be tailored
to the needs of the individual corals desired to be kept. There is no perfect
lighting for all corals, hence the multitude of lighting options. The animals we
commonly refer to as "corals" vary in their collection locations from
a few feet of depth (and some of those are exposed, out of water, at low tide)
to 80 feet or more. The light they are exposed to varies significantly at those
different depths. First decide what you want to keep and then investigate the
needs of those corals.>
Thanks, Andy
<Best of luck to you in your education and this hobby. -Steven Pro>
Perfect Lighting?
Hi guys I have just on short question here that I'm sure you must be so
tired of answering. I have read, read, and then read some more of your site but
please just advise me. I currently have a 300 litre tank filled with some
mushrooms and a tree coral. My lighting consists of 4 fluorescent tubes (2 x
blue and 2 x 10000k white). I have decided to change to MH's and my local pet
store is raising my canopy and putting in 2 x 150 watt MH's. Is this enough for
most corals and should I keep my fluorescents?
<There is no such thing as enough light for most corals. Lighting needs to be
tailored specifically to the exact intended photosynthetic animals and plants
desired. I don't know the wattage of your fluorescents, but there is a very real
possibility that your current inhabitants could suffer and die from luminary
shock from this switch.>
Thanks guys, Werner Schoeman
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Clams light problem
Hi there, Your fan from Turkey :-) need your help again.
<cheers, my friend from afar>
I have 50 gallon setup which I have Hamilton Power Compact 3*55w 10K, 1* 55w
true actinic, also NO 2* Powerglo 30W and a 1* Marine Glo 30W/ Lights
are 1" from the surface of the water, it doesn't have plexi or protection
from the water.
<all excellent and installed properly>
I have got a clam 2 weeks ago, I believe it is Tridacna crocea Metallic
blue. The clam was put in 2 inches below the water. All seems
fine, but I have noticed that the clam mantles started to have flaky burn type
markings on them. All over the mantles. It looks like skin
burns. Since then I moved the clam down to the sand and I hope it
will get better.10" below the water line
<hmmm... its OK to put this clam lower, but not for too long (2-4 weeks
only). The symptoms do not sound like a burn from bright lights. Excess light
would cause bleaching (paling in color) from the zooxanthellae being expelled.
The clam would also let go of its foot in such a circumstance and tumble to a
lower/darker place. It sounds instead to me like a problem with a predator like
a damselfish or dwarf angel picking occasionally at the mantle>
I also have a bubble tip anemone in the same aquarium last six month just
4" below the waterline, it always hide, it is glowing white color. It
feeds well and seemed happy with 3 ocellaris clown. But it does not
grow and the color do worry me.
<yes... the white color is a problem for lack of symbiotic algae. If this occurred
after you bought the anemone, we may have a light or water quality problem. If
the anemone was white when you bough it however, it is unfortunately too common.
Feed well (daily ) regardless, while we wait for this specimen to regain
color>
I douse regularly carbon, so my water is always clear.
<very good>
>Do you think it is the UV from the lamps ?
<doubtful... little from these fluorescent bulbs>
What do you suggest for me to do?
<you can experiment with a thin glass or acrylic lens between the lights and
water if you like... but is must be cleaned weekly at least>
Murat Ozturan :-) :-) :-)
<best regards, Anthony>
Inverts
Good Afternoon,
<Good evening!>
I am in the process of stocking (slowly) my Reef set-up. I have been very
careful to read up on the compatibility of the fish I am adding (with each other
and with the reef).
<Very wise!>
I don't have a lot of information on invertebrates however. I recently read a
FAQ on your site regarding the mixing of inverts (differing lighting and
circulation requirements). Before purchasing any of the inverts, I make a point
to ask the owner of the LFS about it's hardiness (or lack thereof) and lighting
but I am now seeking more information. I have a 45 gallon (tall) glass aquarium.
It measures 12"W x 24"T x 36"L. If I hadn't already had the tank
(from an earlier set-up) I would have gone shallower.
<24" is deep. If you had a 4" or 5" sandbed it would help.>
I use power compacts - two 55W blue actinics and two 55W 6750K white bulbs. This
gives me approximately 5 watts per gallon.
<This would be on the low end for high light animals.>
My LR comes to within approximately 10-12" of the top of my tank. My lights
sit directly on top of the tank. I have a tank turnover of almost 25 times
<Good to hear...>
per hour when I have my mechanical filter going (once a month or so) and almost
20 when it is not in use. The flow is somewhat varied. Not including the fish or
the clean-up critters, I currently have a squamosa clam, a flame scallop,
<I know flames are cheap and easy to buy, but they do need to be fed. Good
luck keeping this one long term (as in years)...> a leather umbrella coral, a
frogspawn coral, a couple of polyps and feather dusters that hitch hiked with
the LR and a Red Sea Pom Pom (I assume of the Xenia family).
<Heteroxenia>
I have stayed away from the maxima clams and any hard corals due to my lighting
and inexperience.
<Another wise choice.>
The pom pom, the leather coral and the frogspawn
<Euphyllia divisa: One of the better hard corals for a tank like the one you
describe.>
are all near the top of the LR.
<Good.>
I have started adding Iodine with the addition of the Pom Pom.
<Are you testing for the amount of iodine in the water? You really need to so
the limits will stay within reason.>
I have 2 questions; with the given set-up, have I introduced any inappropriate
items?
<I don't see anything that should cause a problem. Be careful about mixing
hard and soft corals. Many hard corals from the Scleractinia family have sweeper
tentacles. Don't place them close to other corals. Corals from the octocoral
family use chemical weapons. Not a major problem if you have a good skimmer and
use a little bit of carbon.>
Do you have any suggestions or comments regarding any new additions with regard
to hardiness and/or compatibility?
<The choices are so numerous...I won't go there. You are making excellent
choices so far. Continue your search at WetWebMedia.com>
Thanks for your help. Your site is an invaluable tool.
<Thank you for sending these thoughtful questions. It is our pleasure to be
of service. David Dowless>
<sigh> Change in lighting required?
Hi, crew...hope all is well,
<yep... Bob's back from the Caribbean and all is right in the world... except
for that little thingy going on in the middle east... and the starving in
Africa... the plight of persecuted Chinese... Hmmm>
and as always, thanks for providing this resource.
<our great pleasure>
OK, a little background. I have a 75g tall (24") reef tank, but due to a
chiller disaster while on vacation early summer, I lost the entire tank.
<ouch... sorry>
Since I had to buy a new chiller anyway, I bought a larger size, and decided to
upgrade my VHOs to better lighting. After reading and reading, online and
elsewhere, I chose 4 55W PC Actinic, and 2 250W 10K MH.
<almost certainly too much light (the 250 MH) unless your tank is exclusively
clams and shallow water SPS>
It seemed a lot, but others have apparently had success on 75's with that,
<I disagree... ten years of world travel and I have seen these set ups appear
to work for 1-3 years before corals succumb to photoinhibition, but not so many
over lit tanks making it to the 5 year mark or longer with mushrooms, low light
soft coral, LPS etc>
and I was thinking if I ever upgraded to a larger tank I could use the lights
again.
<OK... but a waste of precious and expensive electricity in the meantime>
Tank seemed to do OK...I went through the standard acclimation, burned the bulbs
in for 100 hours before use, and worked up to 9 hours of MH over a 2 week
period, with the actinics coming on 2 hours earlier and going off an hour later.
<all fine>
2 months in, I had a water flow problem that killed a pair of Acropora I had at
the top of the tank. The replacement pieces didn't last the week - in
retrospect, it must have been due to bleaching. At around the same time, I was
getting disillusioned with the lighting - the 10Ks were very, very white in the
tank, even with the actinics on.
<that's just an aesthetic preference. Even the 10K lamps have more blue than
corals need. Higher Kelvin lamps are worse. You will go blue at the expense of
coral growth and in some cases coral color (accuracy of color that is)>
Several people recommended switching to 250W 20K's, and some recommended
dropping the wattage to 175W.
<I whole heartedly agree with that if maximum growth is not a goal and you
really like blue color. 20K Radiums are beautiful lamps>
However, that would have required new ballasts (and I had already invested over
$400 on the icecap 250W ballasts and 10K bulbs), plus I can't find 175W 20K
Radiums. So I switched to a pair of 250W 20Ks.
<OK>
I don't have spare ballasts lying around, so I couldn't burn them in for 100
hours, and instead went back to 3 hours of MH, and worked back up to 9 hours
over a week or so.
<Oh, no!!! Please say it ain't so! <G>. Really... your corals may have
toughed that one out... but it was a very stressful move. Eric Borneman on
ReefCentral gave an excellent and scientific explanation for how bad that is.
You cannot mess with the duration of the photoperiod so severely in such a short
period of time... better to pulse the lights off and on (one hour on, one hour
off, etc... for the full normal photoperiod... OR... simply use my screen method
(Eric agrees) mentioned at the end of this article:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm
>
I love the way the tank looks light-wise now, and everything seemed fine for a
week or 10 days, but the corals don't seem to be doing as well.
<if not surprised at all... a very stressful change>
I had another Acropora die (although he was on his last legs from the flow
problem), and for the replacement piece I'm using the "screen" method
to acclimate,
<awesome!>
but even some of the LPS (bubbles towards the top, elegance at middle) don't
seem to come out much anymore.
<if the elegant has a conical skeleton it needs to be in the sand. Hack...
even if not... under these excess MH lamps, you may need most all LPS in the
bottom third of the tank anyway>
And I'm worried because I'm seeing a tinge of bleaching on another Acropora.
<understood and agreed>
So I guess the question is, what to do now?
<before I'd buy another ballast, I'd buy a PAR meter and do cautious
experiments with screen to filter light. That way you can keep your fixtures for
future use and the only thing you will be beat on will be the extra cost of
electricity>
I wouldn't be averse to dropping to 175W, but it would be another $400, require
me to sell my 2 month old 250W ballasts and bulbs to help pay for it (or have my
wife banish me to the couch ),
<no worries... you may end up there anyway :)>
and I don't know if anyone makes a 20K 175W (I don't relish going back to 10K's
because of the white light). Should I stick it out, hope stuff acclimates?
<most coral are amazingly adaptive. If the electricity thing doesn't bother
you, then yes... I'd be patient, use more screen and be patient>
Get a screen for the entire top of the tank and acclimate everything over the
next two weeks?
<Yessuh>
Is it too late to stop the decline of a few of the corals?
<remains to be seen>
Thanks for any help you can provide... Arthur
<best regards, Anthony>
moon light for spawning fishes and sighted aquatic animals
Hello!
<cheers>
What would you suggest as moonlight. I want to have luminescence effect.
What do you think about Philips Tl05 actinic 5W for example? How can I make moon
cycle? I enclose spectral characteristic of TL05
<your choice of lamp for moonlight really depends on your purpose. intent. If
it is mainly aesthetic, the TL05 looks very fine to me. If it is for the fishes
and other sighted animals, however, (to stimulate spawning for example) then it
really isn't as important. Studies have produced results (manipulating spawning
cycle) with simple incandescent blue bulbs! (like colored party/holiday light
bulbs!). The light is to be plugged into a rheostat and the bulb is run 24 hrs
daily and made to wax and wane with the lunar cycle. You can do this manually or
use a computer microprocessor to do it. I describe a very simply method in my
Book of Coral Propagation for how to do this with a rheostatic light switch for
a ceiling fan. A template is made to cover the switch plate and hash marks are
made around the "Orbit" of the rheostat. You can then simply follow an
almanac and make occasional changes on the switch dial to follow the waxing and
waning moon. Best regards, Anthony>
Your Lighting Marine Invertebrates pc.
Anthony, pls see:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm
Can you make out my suggested chg.s? Pls adapt, adopt as you see/deem fit. Either take out my bold and italicized notes, or I will later.
Bob F
Re: Some images for your consideration for your pc. on MarLgtgInverts
Bob,
Thanks big-time for the pics. The mag is Today's
Fishkeeping UK and the editor is Derek Lambert
(know?).
<Bizarre... I've never heard of the title (is this a Brit ed. of Akvarium Heute?), but do know of Derek from Underworld...>
He first said that he had his own images but
I made a hard pitch for your archives when I sent in
the piece. Lets wait to hear what this fellow has to
say. I really like the third picture attached for the
article on your website (the full tank/stand warm
color woodwork).
<Okay... if you (and Steve) have interest, we've got to get you some sort of "full set" of images/scans if they can be/come of use... can copy onto DVD's (perhaps best) and send... As a matter of fact... will send this note to all... am sure Jas.C could use as well for CA... Bob F, who has a new computer with a DVD burner... no blanks as yet.>
Thanks bud