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FAQs on Marine Water Supplements, Measuring
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Trace Elements 12/14/08 Hello, <Hello Greg.> My tank
is six gallons and contains live rock, 2 Cerith snails & 1 Nerite snail.
I rarely add food to the tank and when I do it's just a small piece of
dried algae. So with this being a relatively "clean" system I would like
to do monthly (or even less often) water changes. <Sticking to a more
frequent schedule is good for developing good habits and promoting
stability in the system, especially this small.> My only concern is
the trace elements becoming exhausted before this time. Do you happen to
know how long it takes for the elements to break down? <It really
depends on the bioload, filtration and initial water chemistry of each
system. For the most part these trace elements are nothing to worry
about, with Ca, Alk and Mg being the guiding factors. If these are well
and in balance, most the time your trace elements will be too. The only
way to know for sure is to test, I for one do not and will not bother to
for all the �bell and whistle� trace element type of stuff. Water
changes are the way to balance these values in such a small system.>
Thank you, Greg <Welcome, Scott V.>
Purified water testing & trace elements Water Quality 4/8/07
Hello, <Hi Greg.> I've been testing my make-up water via a
Salifert alkalinity test kit. The water is purified via an Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals Tap Water Purifier. <A very expensive way to purify
water. An RO purifier will save you much money here.> I always get
0 dKH when testing. The thing is though, recently I got close enough to
the aerating/stored make-up water to notice a fishy stink. <Is the
water being circulated/aerated?> So I tested alkalinity and it read
0. So I'm thinking the alkalinity test obviously isn't sufficient.
<???Alkalinity has nothing to do with water purity.> I'm guessing a
TDS meter will do the trick. What is the best way to catch the purifier
before it produces anything less than perfect water? If you think a
meter is the way to go, will the Pocket TDS Meter from Marine Depot do
the trick? The reason I ask is, it seems like it might be cheaply made
@ $29.95. <Total Dissolved Solids testing is used to check the
effectiveness of RO units and I believe would also tell you the
condition of the media in your water purifier. As for the meter MD
sells, I'd ask them that question.> Also, I use a Poly Filter and
dose Seachem's Reef Builder and Reef Advantage Calcium. Should I
remove the Poly Filter for four days every time I add these to my tank?
Will the Poly Filter remove a significant amount of trace elements from
either of these two products? <No. If regular water changes are
carried out, you will replenish any lost trace elements.> I really
don't care if it removes the magnesium, strontium, etc. All I worry
about being absorbed is the calcium and alkalinity. <No worries
here.> How much, if any, will it remove from these two products?
<Would be negligible at best.> One more question. My make-up water
(for water change) only has 960 ppm of Mg. I'm shooting for 1050. I've
got Epsom salts and I'm wondering if I can just add the powder directly
to my make-up water after it's been aerated, buffered, brought to
correct spg and pH. If not, how should I do this? Dilute in purified
water and then add to make-up water? The tank's magnesium level is at
915 ppm and would like this also to be 1050 since I maintain calcium
around 350 ppm. Am I going about this in the right manner? <I would
mix the Epsom salts in a separate container and add directly to tank
when needed. As for other additives, follow manufacturers
directions. James (Salty Dog)> Take care, Greg
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Additives and Test Kits - Thanks, Which Calcium and Alkalinity
test kits do you recommend. <Hach, SeaTest, and Sera are all worth
owning.> Are there any other test kits I should buy? <Hmm... a good
nitrate test is always useful. Iodine/dide tests are good too but harder
to find... other than that, I think you can skip most if you stick to a
regular schedule of water changes.> Daryl <Cheers, J -- >
Supplements, coralline algae and carbon follow up 9/21/04 Thank
you for the quick reply. I do a 10% water change twice a month using
Marin Topic salt. If I am reading your reply correctly I should do away
with all those products and stick to water changes and Kalkwasser? <In
my opinion, yes. Tropic Marin salt is excellent and with your water
change schedule, it will provide all you need. Calcium and alkalinity
are the only exception, and Kalk should take care of those just
fine. The bottom line rule of thumb... if you aren't testing for it,
don't add it! Best Regards. AdamC.> If there is no test kit for
it, don’t use it 11/28/05 Hey crew, <Hi Ed.> not
kissing up but I love your site and view it every day. <Thanks for
the compliments.> I was wondering if you or anyone you know have had
any experience with Marc Weiss Coral Vital and Coral Vital DSB.
<Personally, I must admit I have none. Though I must say that I
personally know quite a few reputable aquarists who have point blank
told me they aren’t fond of these products at all. I won’t go into too
much detail in this aspect but lets just say this line of products is
questionable at best.> I have tried the Coral Vital DSB and after
using it for 3 weeks along with my regular water changes my nitrates and
phosphates have all gone to 0. I have always had problems with nitrates
@ 20 ppm or so. <I prefer a natural approach with weekly water
changes, lots of water flow and algae scrubbers/refugiums.> I was
told by a commercial marine maintenance company that my 160 lbs of live
sand and my 150 lbs of live rock might need the boost of the Coral Vital
DSB product to help perk up microbes that might be weak. <Not to
sound like a broken record but I prefer more conventional methods like
those above along with patience and time of course. Now if they sold
those last two in a bottle that I would buy. Seriously though I live by
this rule, “If you can’t test for it, don’t add it to your tank.>
Just wondering if anyone had any experience with these products and what
the WWM crew thought of these products. <Can’t speak for everyone of
course, but I would skip them.> thanks Ed in West Texas. <Welcome,
Adam J.> Re: something not quite right
Bob, <Chris, Anthony Calfo here answering questions and feeling warm
and fuzzy... and not because my back needs shaved, either> I've been
searching for awhile for answers to my problem, and am quite tired....
so I figured I'd ask. I have a 180 gallon reef, 2yrs old, and my basic
test are within the testing limits.. Ca 500, Alk 2.8, ph 8.2. <I
disagree... your tests are inaccurate (perhaps hence the troubles
below). It is extremely difficult to achieve and maintain 500ppm of
calcium. I'm nearly certain of this and your poor coralline algae health
is testimony in part. Also... what is you alkalinity measure in? meq/l
or dKH. Even in milliequivalents it is low, but in degrees of hardness
it is outrageously low. And a pH of 8.2 during the day indicates a
buffering problem (again... the readings). A healthy marine aquarium
will range 8.3 (dead of night) to 8.6 (peak light/day)> I originally
purchased 250 lbs of live rock, over the last year the pink, red, purple
corallines have diminished and the only real growth of coralline in the
tank is on the filter boxes (none on the glass) <yes...above problem>
and it is green. my lighting seems to be ok( 220 w compacts 11-6, 96w
compacts 9-8, and 80 w Fluor. (blue) 8-10. I purchased a iodine/iodide
test kit from Seachem, I followed the "break-in" procedure properly, and
did a test with my water... it's result showed I had elemental
iodide/iodine? could this be the problem? any ideas or suggestions would
be greatly appreciated. <nope, bud. You need to start your sleuthing
with new test kits. Let me know what you find out, please. Anthony>
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