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FAQs about Trachyphylliid Coral Systems
Related Articles: Trachyphylliid
Corals, Trachyphyllia Reproduction
Report, Related FAQs: Open
Brain Coral 1, Open Brain Coral 2,
Trachyphylliid Identification,
Trachyphylliid Behavior,
Trachyphylliid Selection,
Trachyphylliid Compatibility,
Trachyphylliid Feeding,
Trachyphylliid Disease,
Trachyphylliid Reproduction, Stony Corals,
Stonies 2, Stonies 3,
LPS Stony Corals, Coral System Set-Up,
Coral System Lighting, Stony Coral
Selection, Coral Placement,
Foods/Feeding/Nutrition,
Disease/Health, Propagation, Stony
Coral Behavior, | 
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My brain coral came off it's base! – 10/02/08 Thank you
for your wonderfully enlightening website! I have searched and
searched and I can not find out if my brain coral is dead. It came
off it's base about a week ago. <I see this...> It has
traveled some around the 36 gallon tank. I'm thinking because it has
nothing to hold on to. But it is still shrinking at night and
swelling during the day. <... needs to be lifted, put back on
either the rock or "face side up" on the sand/substrate...> The
shop I bought it from insists it has to be dead <Mmm, no>
since it left it's base but my husband and I believe it lives on.
<He is correct> Can you tell us what you think and what we should
do? <Again, reach in, carefully brush water at it with your
hand, to make the fleshy part retreat a bit... for a minute or so...
lift up, if you can by the edges, and place "right side up" (the
part currently facing out). Bob Fenner> Thanks! Annie |  |
Re: My brain coral came off it's base! 10/4/08
Thank you so much for your help! I have moved him several times...
he keeps logging up under the rock. <? This animal, colony can't
move... Is something "pushing" it here?> He is eating when I feed
him so I agree with you... he is alive. Should I keep the base?
<? What do you mean? As prev. stated, I would either place it
squarely on the rock, or on the sand> Is there anyway to
re-anchor him? <Mmm, yes... posted on WWM> Thank you so much!
Annie & Pete Huminski <Welcome. BobF> |
Return Pump Flow--How Much Is Too Much? – 02/18/08 Greetings WWM
Crew, <<Hello Bill>> Here is my situation. I have an AGA
180-gallon RR tank with the 'MegaFlow' system--sort of. <<Mmm…>>
The ¾-inch return is now 1-inch, and the drains are 1 ¼-inch instead of
1-inch. The 'MegaFlows' have been replaced with Durso's. <<I see… I
do hope this means you increased the size of the holes/bulkheads in the
tank…not just an upsizing of the pipe>> I drilled out the 'teeth' in
the overflows and siliconed black plastic gutter guard in its place. My
tank has an Ocean-Motions 4 way Closed-loop plumbed according to Paul's
suggestion. This all drains in to an 85-gallon 'fuge, <<Sweet>>
and then to a 90-gallon sump. <<Really sweet>> My skimmer is in
the sump. The return I was using was a Mag 1800, and up until last
Tuesday it worked fine--then BAMM. <<Hate it when that happens… I
have used these and do think the Mag-Drive pumps usually serve pretty
well, for the money…but I made the “switch” to Ocean-Runner a while back
and have been very pleased with the result…and when/if you can get them
big enough, Eheim is even better>> A friend of mine that owns/runs an
LFS said he had a 'new' (used for 5 minutes) pump he would sell me, so
OK, I'm good to go right. The pump is an Eco-Plus rated at 4950gph.
<<Yikes! Much too much flow for your overflows…or are we talking
“closed-loop” here?>> New plumbing was done--ball valve etc., etc.,
and I turned the pump on--(now don't get ahead of me, I know what you
are thinking--but the ball valve WAS turned to 1/2 to start)
<<Mmm…okay…>> Oh, I forgot--I installed a "Calfo Manifold" around the
top of the tank in 1 inch PVC in place of the double returns already in
use. <<Very nice>> I'm figuring my flow at about 3800 to 4000
gph--just from the return. <<Not with “two 1 ¼-inch drain bulkheads”
my friend (would only safely drain about 1000gph en toto). I must assume
this is a closed-loop>> With the 1-inch return manifold--it has 12
outlets around the top—I can turn the valve to 3/4 open with no problem.
With ½-inch reducers in the outlets, and with capped 45 degree pieces
drilled with a small hole attached, I can open the valve all the way,
without overflowing the tank. <<Okay, this “must” be a true
closed-loop then…no way you would be running this much water through
your sump/through two 1 ¼-inch gravity drain lines>> I also have 2
Koralia #4--1200gph each in the rear corners. My 'buddy' at the LFS says
it can never be enough flow. Is this too much flow ????? Thanks in
advance, Bill Fletcher <<Well Bill, that depends much on your
livestock’s requirements/placement and how this flow is “arranged” in
the tank. A common rule-of-thumb for marine systems is to have a
water-flow rate of at least ten-times the tank’s stated volume. For your
tank of course that would be 1800gph. I have heard of some hobbyists
with flow rates of 50-times and more their tank’s volume. I believe
“lots of flow” is very beneficial if applied properly…my own tank boasts
more than 30-times the tank volume in water flow. I also believe the
majority of hobbyists “don’t have enough” flow in their tanks. So to
answer your question…if the animals in your system are not having their
flesh blasted from them…if the animals in your system exhibit health and
vigor, and the corals are not “closed-up” all the time as a result of
the flow…then no, this is not too much flow. Regards, Eric Russell>>
Re: Return Pump Flow--How Much Is Too Much? - 02/19/08 THANKS for
the reply Eric. <<Happy to assist, Bill>> To start, the pump in
question IS the tank return pump. On my OM 4 way, I have a DART.
<<Ah, thank you for the clarification. I must say I think either there
is something I have missed, or the pump is encountering a “bunch” of
headloss as there is no way two 1¼” gravity drains handling the flow
volume you mention (4,000gph+)>> Each return has 6 one inch "T"s
around the top of the tank, into which a 1" to 1/2 " reducer is placed,
with a 45 degree PVC piece placed into that, and then capped and drilled
with a small, not real small, hole drilled in the end. <<So…the water
is returned to the tank via these small holes in the caps? Well, that
would explain how the drains can handle the flow with the valve from the
pump wide-open (the “holes” are GREATLY restricting water flow)>>
This allows me to swivel the 45's left or right, and raise or lower the
"T"s as needed. The drain and return tank bulkheads were re-drilled to
accommodate the tubing upgrades. <<Excellent…too bad you just didn’t
go a little larger on the drains [grin]>> I did forget to add/state
that ALL plumbing is in the basement which is just behind the wall that
the tank sits in front of. <<Cool…does make plumbing/dealing with
some associated hassles a bit easier>> As of now, everybody--all the
animals in the tank--- appear to be doing very well--I did tweak the
'nozzles' initially so as not to blast anybody--so all is well.
<<Very good>> THANKS again for ALL you do for us in the hobby--where
would we be without your help and knowledge. Bill <<Rewarding and
encouraging to read…We are pleased to be of service. EricR>>
Open Brain Coral Question, overly lit hlth. ish 2-18-06
Hey sorry to bother you. <No worries> I've just recently
picked up a 250w MH ballast and XM 10000k bulb for my 75g tank.
<A little bright there - shallow water 'sps'?> I now have a few
open brains.. one of them seems to be "droopy" like. <Guess not -
your lighting is excessive for 'LPS' corals, I would seriously
consider downgrading. Regardless of popular opinion, throwing high
wattage halides over everything is simply not necessary, with the
exception of a few species of course> It is a metallic green open
brain. It expands during the day and opens up at night to feed...but
when it expands during the day it seems really thinned out and the
on side of it seems to hang down (left side in photo). Could this be
a light problem? <Sure - especially if it wasn't doing this
before the upgrade, and all water parameters are nominal> Water
is great I test almost everything except iodine. <Numbers are
usually requested, but okay> I think I bought it from underneath
a few T5's. I had brought it home and sat it in the substrate off to
the side for about a week before moving it more towards the center.
Could I have moved it into intense light too fast? <Yes, and yes,
and it may never acclimate to the brighter lighting, or if it does,
it may not open as far as it did> I fed it for the first time
after 2 weeks of having it. Could this be a hunger thing?
<Possibly, but not as likely, though you should have fed it sooner.
I recommend feeding more often - twice a week should suffice> I
bought some shrimp, successfully fed it and haven't noticed any
change in appearance. Everything else in my tank is doing great.
Could you shoot me any advice? Like moving it to a new location, or
is this coral dying on me? <From the picture, I'd say nothing is
wrong with the coral - but you are going to know better than I am,
as you see it every day. I'd say if anything, the lighting is too
intense> Also it is in not heavy but moderate water flow. Could
this be a problem? <Doubtfully> Thanks a lot guys. <Sure
thing - when emailing us in the future, please make sure to use
correct spelling, capitalization, and punctuation> Jason <M.
Maddox>
Open Brain Coral Question Part Deuce 2-19-06 Good
morning. <For those of us without chem lab, yep ;)> Thank you
for the quick response. <Sure> You say I should downgrade my
light set-up? I cannot do that, but I was wondering...is there any
way I could block some of the light intensity by using typical black
screen in between it and the water? Would this work or is it a long
shot? <It would work fine - window screens work wonders in this
situation. However, unless you're keeping animals that require that
much light, why not sell/return your lights and get a 175w setup, or
T5's? Cheaper, less electricity/heat, etc> I really have no way
to move and mount the light anywhere else. It is where it is.
Another thing, what if I were to buy a 15000k or 20000k bulb instead
( I hate the colour of my 10000k neways )? Probably wont make any
difference will it? <It will, actually - the farther you move
from the ~5500-6500k range the less photoactive radiation (PAR)
there is going to be, and wavelength intensity decreases as well, if
I remember correctly> Any overall suggestions on killing off some
of the intensity from the light? <See above> Jason <M.
Maddox> |
Goby Symbiosis and LPS...
nano stkg., Trachyphyllia sys. 8/13/06 Hey, guys.
I've got a question about shrimp-goby pairs and LPS corals. I am
planning a nano-reef in a 12 gallon NanoCube. I'm thinking of keeping a
Randall's Shrimp Goby and a pistol shrimp (tiger, if I can find one) and
a firefish (maybe, not decided yet) in as the non-coral
inhabitants. LPS corals interest me, especially Trachyphyllia and the
"Closed Brains" of the Favia and Favites genus, especially the so-called
"pineapple brains." I know the Trachyphyllia need to stay on the
substrate, but I'm worried about the shrimp's digging covering up the
Trachyphyllia. Do they have the ability to shed sediment? <To some
extent, yes... but I would "mount" (set upon) the Trachyphyllia on a
short (substrate depth) section of cut PVC pipe to elevate it.>
Also, I still can't figure out whether the "Closed Brains" should be
placed on the rocks or the substrate... <Faviids are almost always
found on the latter in the wild...> If on the sand, would they be
able to shed the sand from the digging shrimp? Thanks for the help.
<Do be careful re nanos period... not stable... on average all crash
more than once a year... Bob Fenner>
Re: Goby Symbiosis and
LPS 8/14/06 So, I assume the mounting has the cone
shaped skeleton of the Trach placed in the pipe as a support? <Yes>
That sounds like a good idea. So, I should have the PVC pipe sticking up
just above the substrate, elevation of 3-5 cm above it? <Just at the
substrate level will/would be fine. Bob Fenner>
Trachyphyllia Lighting lots to what it should have... using WWM
5/28/06 Do you know if a Trachyphyllia will do ok going from a
lot of light to what it should have? <Yes> To be more specific I
have a 20 long reef with 130 watts of PC and a 75 with 390 watts of PC
lighting. They are both setup with the same bulb types. The
placement of the Trachyphyllia is about 4" from the top of the 20
gallon. I know to much light thanks to wrong info from LFS. Anyway it
has been doing well (it gets huge) in there for 3 months now but I want
to put it my 75. Will putting it in the bottom of that tank shock it
into death or will it adjust and take on some of the darker colors it
used to have? <... Please read here:
http://www.google.com/custom?q=trachyphyllia+lighting+&sitesearch=wetwebmedia.com
the cached views for the key terms: Trachyphyllia and lighting... on
WWM. Bob Fenner> Brains in a nano 3/4/06
Dear Anthony, <No longer with us, unfortunately. Will cc him here>
You probably remember my tank, but I'll refresh your memory anyway. I
have a 20gal. nanoreef with a CPR BakPak with a prefilter, an
Aquaclear 200 box filter and 130 watt PC lighting. I have 30-40lbs.
<Yikes, and not much water!> of live rock with a profusion of clams
and other filter feeders living on it. 1 large hairy mushroom ~5", 2
small Discosoma mushrooms ~1", 1 softball sized Lobophyllia, a
large colony of daisy polyps that are spreading rapidly. (I am in the
process of fragmenting some of them and then will sell the
fragments on a site like frags.org) and a small colony of green
star polyps ~2.5". About 8 Blueleg hermit crabs, 2 ocellaris
clownfish and one yellow-tailed blue damselfish. (I am keeping an eye
on the damsel.) My lobo looks on the overall like it is doing pretty
well. The only thing is that it has a small (about the size of a
nickel) area of recession. It doesn't appear to be getting worse, but
it is not getting better. I have had the lobo for about 3 months
now, the recession might have been there since I bought it. If not
then it showed up shortly after I got it. I have noticed that
throughout the day sometimes the lobo will be completely expanded and
then in seemingly no time at all it will be closed and the mouths on it
will be open. In about an hour it will be opened back up and
looking fine. It doesn't do this everyday, maybe once or twice a week.
Do you know why it is doing this and if it means there is something
wrong with it. <Can't tell with the info. provided...> My
LFS has been getting in some variety of what they call green brains. I
think that they are probably Trachyphyllia. They have a flat(ish)
middle section with a heavy ring of tissue around it. (it kind of
looks like a flattened out lobo) I was wondering if it would be
possible for me to have one. <I wouldn't here... your system is too
small, crowded> I don't have any room on the bottom except for one
place under my powerhead that doesn't get much light. I was wondering
if it would be ok to place it on a flat rock about halfway up the
12" tank. I was also wondering how often I should feed the lobo and
hairy mushroom and if I get it the Trachy. I am currently feeding
them about once weekly, with small pieces of krill or shrimp. (I will
probably get something else to feed them, any recommendations?)
Thanks, MDM <Do take a read, Google on WWM re Lobophyllia/Mussid
Disease/Health, Trachyphyllia Selection. Bob Fenner>
Trachyphylliid system... a coral... 2/6/06 Hi , <TB>
I was wondering and still am, is it ok to glue a rose coral to the
live rock in my tank or does this animal have to be in the
substrate? <If you are talking about a rose anemone, do not think of
gluing it to anything. If not, then I do not know what coral you are
asking about and will need a scientific ID. Travis> thanks tb |
Re: rose coral 02-07-06 Sorry about the ID on the coral
, I was just relaying what the LFS gave me when I purchased
it . Its an open brain of some sort I believe. <You are
correct in your ID. It is possible to epoxy this coral to a
rock. I personally would suggest against do so, at least until
you have found it a location it likes. It is very important to
find the area you think best suits the needs of the coral, allow
it to settle in for a week, check to see how it is doing, and
move again if need be. As for sand or rock base, stick with rock
if possible as sand gets blown onto these corals and really
irritates them. If you have strong lighting that may not be an
option and you may have to place it in the substrate (sand),
just make sure you don't let a sand sifting goby or other fish
cover it. Travis> thanks tb | 
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Where does my brain go? Trachyphylliid systems Clear Day Hello
again everyone, I have searched through your site and couldn't find
an answer and asked the folks at a few LFS about placement of Moon
Brain corals. Some say don't let it touch the sand or it will burn.
Others say it must be sand. Most of what I have read says either
moderate light or bright light and moderate flow or heavy flow.
Could you give me a definitive answer to lighting, flow and placement on
sand or rock? I want to know what I am doing before I kill something
unnecessarily. Thanks for your help and for keeping this amazing
site up. Pete <Please read here:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=placement%2C+systems+for+moon+brain+corals&FORM=QBRE
Including the cached references to WWM. BobF> Open Brain Corals
And Other LPS - 12/31/05 Hello WetWebMedia Crew! <<Hello
Sheen!>> This happens to be my first time writing to you guys, thank
you all for a wonderful and informative website. <<Ah! Welcome!>>
Many of my hours have been spent surfing on it, researching for the reef
tank that I am planning to set up. I just have a couple of questions on
Trachyphyllia geoffroyi. <<Alrighty>> First,
do the green kinds require more lighting than the red kinds? <<Mmm,
not so much "require" as will "tolerate". The red varieties can/will
tend to "brown" under intense lighting...I have even seen them
decline/die under same.>> Second, I have a crushed
coral substrate on my tank (from CaribSea). Would it be harmful to the
open brain? <<Probably not>> I have been reading that it needs a
soft substrate and wasn't sure if the crushed coral constituted a "soft
substrate". <<Unless "very" course it is likely fine.>> I know
that it would be best on fine reef sand. Would the crushed coral
inflict cuts and injuries on the coral when it expands at night?
<<Doubtful>> How much space should be given between them and
Blastomussa, Caulastrea, and Acanthastrea? <<The latter in
particular can be quite nasty to other corals...I recommend a minimum of
6" separation, more if the corals are large (more than 4" in
diameter).>> Lastly, are there any known issues with the open brains
being on the same substrate as Tridacnid clams? <<Not that I am
aware...>> Thank you very much! Sheen Yen
<<You're very welcome. Regards, EricR>> Open brain question
12/30/03 I have a Trachyphyllia radiata, <FWIW... the genus
Trachyphyllia is monotypic: only T. geoffroyi is valid> and was
wondering the placement that is best for it. I saw you say that they
are usually attached to something hard. They told me to put it on the
sand bottom. Should I do that and put a small piece of live rock rubble
by it and maybe it will move on to it? Or can it just be put on the
sandy substrate? <most specimens are free living as evidenced by
their conical "skeleton" (corallum)... but some like the "radiata" types
are cleaved from hard substrates and will do equally well on hard or
soft footing. I describe this genus and its care at greater length in my
Book of Coral Propagation (pp 268-269 for genus overview)> This is in
a 29 gallon aquarium, 18" high with custom SeaLife powercompacts, one
actinic and one 10,000 k bulb, a total of 130 watts. Does this light
setup sound good? Thank you very much for your help!! <please do a
keyword search from our homepage wetwebmedia.com for this coral and you
will find many FAQs on this popular animal. Take heed that they are
critically needy of weekly (almost daily) feedings. Else they are fairly
hardy and can be long lived in captivity. Best of luck, Anthony>
Open brain coral 2/9/04 Hey all I am hoping you can answer this
question for me. I have had an open green brain coral for about two
months and it seems to not want to expand like it use to. It stays
pretty small during the day. I have noticed it open once at night but I
have monitored it lately and it doesn't want to open. It isn't expelling
any matter from its mouths and it isn't accepting any food. please let
me know if you have any clues. <inadequate feeding is a common cause:
not enough food (3-5 times weekly) or food bits that are too large (over
1/4" minced chunks) which get taken in at feeding but regurgitated at
night leading to starvation to the aquarists surprise> reef setup is
a 72 gallon aquarium with duel 175 watt 10k Ushio bulbs and two
fluorescent actinic bulbs. <very nice lighting> Other corals
include frogspawn colt coral long tentacle anemone pumping xenia finger
leather and green star polyps. All other corals are doing fine. Thank
you Stan. N <not fair to compare such unrelated corals and their
health to the open brain. My other wonder is if this open brain has been
mistakenly set upon rock? They should always be nestled in the sand and
will often suffer if placed on rock for some months. Anthony>
Correct placement of Brain Corals I have a Green Dome and Brain
Coral (Trachyphyllia geoffroyi) They only expand when the lights are low
or off. When the lights are on you see more of its skeleton. Placement
in the tank is close to the top. Water flow is medium. I target feed
them twice weekly with Formula One and Kent MicroVert. <Your
observations are important, and are definitely showing you the way...
these corals don't need quite the light of SPS or clams. You might
consider gradually lowering them toward the middle/lower portion of your
system... regards, Lorenzo-for-Bob-who's-in-Asia> Closed Brain
Corals Hello Robert, <Anthony Calfo in your service> I must
first say that your book "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist" has been a
great help in setting up my first saltwater tank. <his intent
indeed> After reading it I had very few questions concerning the
hobby. I'm in the midst of setting up the tank and I'm researching
livestock. <and you will succeed if you always research, before
buying livestock... this mailbox is dominated by well-intended folks who
should have taken this advice <smile>> I'm mostly going with a few
fish (two pairs of ocellaris clownfish) but I've always been fond of
closed brain corals (Favia sp.) and would like to get one to add to the
tank. My big question is, what sort of lighting and water flow is
required to keep such a coral and is this a good coral for a beginner?
<really not a beginner coral, although not impossible either. A great
many need very to extremely high light (like metal halide, or VHO on
shallow tanks) Currently, my tank is in the process of being plumbed
but this is what it will be: 55 Gallon All-Glass w/overflow Custom
Sealife 2x65w Power Compact 10000K 20 gallon acrylic sump
Precision Marine Bullet-1 Skimmer 4.5" deep sand bed 65lb live
rock Am I nuts here or will this be okay? <it will be tough with
those light s to keep the most colorful (high light) species. If you
pick a specimen that is dominantly brown in color and keep it within the
top 10" of the tank, you will likely be OK> Thanks in advance for
your reply. Tony Dellett <keep reading and learning, my friend.
Anthony> Re: Closed Brain Corals Forget
sunglasses...you'll need a space suit! Thanks for your quick
response, it spurred me on to purchase a dual 400W Metal Halide/dual
110W VHO hood. <whoa! my friend...stop the presses! There is bright
light, and then there is boiling water! Do halt the purchase if you can
at this point. By any definition, 2-400 watt halides is harmful to
almost any photosynthetic invertebrate that you will find in the trade.
Although a Ritteri anemone and a Goniastrea brain coral may very well
tolerate it... very few other symbiotic cnidarians will be able to
survive in a 55 gallon tank with that kind of lighting. The other
problems and complications that you will have from it are too great to
list here. And the point is moot. My friend, you are an ambitious
shopper OR you got some seriously bad advice from any clerk willing to
sell you over 1000 watts of high intensity light for a 55 gall. You
really need to choose your animals first (by exact species!) before you
go and by lighting for "unknown" species needs. Now, having put the cart
before the horse, so to speak, you will be forced to pick your animals
to suit your light bulbs?!? For the record...bright/above average
lighting for a 55gall would be 4-6 110 watt VHOs or 2-175 watt MH bulbs.
Any higher wattage MH is dangerous/harmful to your charges> I suppose
with this strong lighting I will have more options as to coloration
and placement of the corals? <quite the opposite my friend.. do
research/reference the species of photosynthetic invertebrates that
you'd like to keep and let's size up their lighting needs in accordance
with known husbandry...not a salesperson's need for commission or your
enthusiasm to blow cash...hehe. Kindly, Anthony> Thanks, Tony Dellett
Re: Closed Brain Corals 400 watt MH fixtures follow up
Actually, I'm getting the fixture used from a friend at a great price.
<do be careful that these are not the common industrial light fixtures.
Many cannot burn a designer (reef) bulb and you will blow up a $100 bulb
in a blink. I cannot comment on putting a lower wattage bulb in said
fixtures. But even 250 watt bulbs would be a stretch on a 75 gallon
unless it was hardcore, shallow SPS species. 2-175 watts on a tank that
will include LPS, mushrooms, etc> Am I incorrect in saying that I can
put lower wattage bulbs in the hood? The ballasts for the MH are PFO and
the ballasts for the VHO are IceCap 660s. <check with mfg on MH Q,
the icecaps are very nice indeed...good customer service> Thanks
again for the help :) Tony Dellett <quite welcome, bud. Anthony>
Ecosystem 40m filter and water quality Dear Whomever is filling
in, <Howdy> I have a 29g tank with 20# of LR, two 175gph power
heads and an Ecosystem 40m, utilizing 5# of Miracle mud and some
proliferate and racemosa Caulerpa. The tank is about 3 mo old now and I
have 1- 3" yellow tang, 1-percula, a sand sifting star, a couple of
turbo snails, and some button polyps. about 3 weeks ago, I tried putting
in a Trachyphyllia (green open brain). A few days later, the coral
developed a small, blackish green spot, one at a time, under the
translucent tissue. It festered out to the very edge of the coral and
turns the tip black with some green algae protruding. As time goes on
more become visible elsewhere. I cycle my 65watt smart light on for a 10
hr period and my water quality is usually as follows: nitrate - 12ppm,
Phosp - 3 ppm, <As in three parts per million? Not 0.3, 0.03? This is
way too much> Ca. - 450 mg/d pH - 8.4 SG - 1.035 temp - 76
F. Salt brand is Instant Ocean. I do a water change every two weeks.
Wheeeew!!!! Now that I have that out of the way. I know that most who
have used the Ecosystem filter have had pleasant results. I think my
numbers are a little high though. They claim that you do not need a
protein skimmer. I am a little skeptical. <The owner of EcoSystem,
Leng Sy and I were diving for a week together last month in Australia...
we're friends as well as associates in the same trade... we have gone
over this issue. I will cc him here. IMO/E skimmers are a good idea to
use in conjunction with these products/approaches for some time, in many
cases... I would/do use them> Do you have any ideas on what could be
happening to the Brain Coral? <Yes... could be just color/looks
"adjustment" to your (different) growing/living conditions (than the
wild) and no big deal. Could be a result of exposure to too much
nutrient... and a problem.> Considering I use Semiconductor Grade
D.I. water from my work, I am shocked that my phosphates are that high.
How do you rate the Ecosystem filter? Do you think I need a skimmer?
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mudfiltrfaqs.htm and where
the links lead you. Bob Fenner> Thank you, Jeff Seely Re:
Ecosystem 40m filter and water quality Dr. Fenner, <Anthony Calfo
with the follow up, my friend> Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the
phosphates were 3.0 PPM. I bought some of that filter pad with phosphate
removing resins and put them in after the mud chamber and now I test @
about 1.0 PPM. Still way too high, but decreasing. <indeed> I have
always fed the tank sparingly, once a day, with Nutrafin Marine
Complete. also 5 ml. of phytoplankton weekly. <do you have
corals/inverts that actually eat it? Gorgonians, Nephtheids, bivalves?
Else this could easily be contributing to your phosphate dilemma.
Many/most popular corals prefer zooplankton rather than phytoplankton
despite the marketing craze!> We have nearly perfect 17.8 M?
de-ionized water, at the plant, that I use for top-off and changes. I
think you are probably right about too much nutrient. I do have some
green algae growth in the sand, during the tank's lit period but gets
removed in the nighttime. The Smartlight's lamp is only 3mo. old.
Attached is a picture of the brain and some of the visible green algae.
Does it look like excessive nutrients? 
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<wow... this brain is bleached (as in, "has expelled a lot of its
resident and necessary zooxanthellae). They bleach for many reasons.
Temperature shock, excessive light, etc. Has it been fed very fine meaty
foods (not chunks which get regurgitated at night) weekly at least of
not daily? This is a very hungry coral that needs regular
feedings...perhaps the reason for the state of duress if not. As far as
your question is concerned... yes, excessive phosphates can be quite
harmful to coral such as this by interrupting calcification... but would
not cause the color change necessarily> Is there something I can do
for that brain coral? <if the lights are not too bright, it simply
needs regular foods and many months to recover> I did have a chance
to read the mud FAQs (some really good discussions!). What would be your
favorite hang-on skimmer for this type of application? <I don't
personally rate many hang-on skimmers very highly, but have heard
excellent feedback from aquarists about Aqua C models> Thank you very
much for your help. jS. <best regards, Anthony> Re:
Ecosystem 40m filter and water quality (Note: Add image) Dr.
Fenner, <Just Bob please> Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the
phosphates were 3.0 PPM. I bought some of that filter pad with phosphate
removing resins and put them in after the mud chamber and now I test @
about 1.0 PPM. Still way too high, but decreasing. <Yes> I have
always fed the tank sparingly, once a day, with Nutrafin Marine
Complete. also 5 ml. of phytoplankton weekly. We have nearly perfect
17.8 M? <Is this a measure of conductivity, like micro-Siemens?>
de-ionized water, at the plant, that I use for top off and changes. I
think you are probably right about too much nutrient. I do have some
green algae growth in the sand, during the tank's lit period but gets
removed in the nighttime. The Smartlight's lamp is only 3mo. old.
Attached is a picture of the brain and some of the visible green algae.
Does it look like excessive nutrients? <Don't see the pix,
attachment> Is there something I can do for that brain coral? <You
are doing it> I did have a chance to read the mud FAQs (some really
good discussions!). What would be your favorite hang-on skimmer for this
type of application? <This is posted on the WetWebMedia.com site
under "Skimmer Selection"> Thank you very much for your help. jS.
<You are welcome. Bob Fenner><Ah, did see it. Yes to the green algae
growing apparently on its margins. Nutrient, health-related. Reduce the
"fertilizer" and all should clear up over time. Bob Fenner>
Trachyphyllia Dear all, I am thinking of purchasing a
Trachyphyllia brain coral in the new year. I will have installed a
calcium reactor by this point to make sure alkalinity and calcium are at
decent levels. I have a few concerns about this coral that you may be
able to answer. My stock is the following: 2 Trumpet corals 1
Favia 1 Euphyllia Various leathers yellow polyps green star
polyps Mushrooms 1 colony of pulsing xenia My lighting is 3
marine arcadia whites (9000K) and 1 actinic blue. All with reflectors.
Water quality is up to snuff, with regular skimming, carbon use and
Rowaphos. Can you tell me if the lighting is ok, and give me an idea on
this corals placement in the aquarium. My LFS says to place it on the
bottom with very low to no flow. Also how often do I need to feed it? I
feed currently with red plankton, shredded mussel, and Mysis shrimp to
all my stonies. Your comments are appreciated. <The care for
Trachyphyllia is going to be similar to your other stony corals. If
these are doing well for you, the Open Brain likely will too. Please do
place this coral on the sand. Your LFS is absolutely right about this. I
would go as far to say to not purchase one that you see sitting upon
rock. -Steven Pro> Open brain coral that will not open...
HI- I have a 72 gallon reef/fish aquarium with several healthy corals
and fish. To name a few I have tangs, gobies, chromes, a pair of
clowns, an anemone, finger leather, flame mushrooms, star polyps, yellow
leather, etc. All are healthy and doing well. My nitrate and ammonia
levels are good, the temp is 78, the salinity is 23....I have live rock,
live sand, and a good sump and separate 55 gallon refugium. My concern
is my open brain that I added bout 10 days ago- it was open and healthy
in the store but will not open in my tank. I have tried moving it,
feeding it directly, etc with no success. Any ideas?? <water flow
that is too strong or rather simply directed upon it in laminar (one
directional fashion is very irritating). Else a simple acclimation to
new lighting. This is a sand dwelling creature... and I assume that you
have placed it on the sand bottom. If it is on rock, it will likely die
from an infection due to abraded tissue from unnatural polyps cycles in
contact with hard live rock. Must be kept on sand. Best regards,
Anthony> Open brain coral that will not open... Hmmm-
ok- it was in the sand but when bought it from the store it was on rock
- I had moved it to a rock in the tank but I will try moving it to a
sand spot with less current- how long does it usually takes to adjust?
<that depends on if damage was done by the LFS keeping it on the sand or
not. Since you have this animal appropriately on the sand already...
Please do not move it (moving new/stressed coral often kills them when
they could otherwise adapt) unless you must. Really... unless you have a
powerhead blasting right at it, I'd advise you to leave it be. It may
take a couple weeks to adapt. Do feed as soon as possible. Juice in the
tank first (small amount to coax feeding tentacles to come out as if it
were nighttime) and then 15-20 minutes later finely minced food. Best
regards, Anthony>
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