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FAQs on Valenciennea/Sleeper, Sifter Gobies: Compatibility
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Sleeper Goby sifting substrate >I have a 120g reef system, 90g
display tank with a 20g refugium and 10g sump. I have fine aragonite
substrate, about 110 lb live rock, 14 corals, one anemone, 10 fish, 3
shrimp, a feather duster worm and a load of hermit crabs and
snails. The system is running perfectly, water quality excellent, fish
healthy, most corals growing like mad. >A few days ago I introduced a
3-inch Orangespotted Sleeper Goby (Valenciennea puellaris) after almost
a month in a quarantine tank. Well, he seems to be doing fine, but he
sifts through the aragonite continuously, which causes silt to be
circulating all around the tank. The tank is now cloudy with due to
these swirls of substrate, and the beautiful purple live rock has now
become largely silted over. It looks terrible, and I also wonder if the
corals are now getting adequate light. >>It's creating *that* much
silt, eh? Sounds as though he's having the time of his life.
>Catching and removing him is problematic; he is so fast it was
difficult catching him in an almost bare 20g quarantine tank. There is
no way I could catch him in the big tank without dismantling the entire
reef. Any suggestions? >>Hhmm...well, if he were an invertebrate
that didn't swim I'd suggest the jar. If he were a damsel, I'd suggest
a tiny, barbless hook. I don't think we should have you use that on the
goby, though. So, if it were my tank and my fish, I'd first try to sort
out how to reduce the siltiness (I wouldn't worry too much about the
corals not getting enough light, unless there's not enough current to
move the silt off them). Barring that, I would do some rearranging of
the tank, so that I could block off a portion of the tank to trap the
goby, thus making it easier to catch him. If you absolutely cannot
rearrange the tank to afford this opportunity, then I would find myself
the oldest fish shop hand I possibly could, and offer him/her $20 to
come and catch the fish. Other than that, you could try some fine
netting and literally "recollect" the fish, this could take some
wrangling as they usually need to be chased from the rockwork. Sorry I
can't be of more help, though I think that someone skilled in netting up
fish might be able to do it. Good luck! Marina Jeffrey M. Zegas
Twin-spot Goby <Hi Kylee, Mac here> I was talked into
getting a twin-spot goby without doing the proper research and now that
I've researched it I see that they need to be kept in pairs. My question
is should I go get one from a store that isn't a mated pair and see if
they will pair up? or should I take back the twin-spot goby that I
have. <In all honesty I kept a single twin spot goby for two years by
itself. I know that it is recommended that you keep it as a pair but
mine did quite well on its own. I will say that it paired up with a
shrimp goby. It was probably one of my very favorite fish ever but it
did constantly eat in the sand. Constantly sifting sand through its
gills. Was nice for keeping the sand stirred up but was tough on the
sand critters.> Also will the twin-spot goby compete with the
mandarin for food? <Both eat pods so it will provide some competition
for the mandarins food source. You might consider supplementing your
pods production with some type of refugium where they can breed without
being eaten or consider renewing your pods with some type of outside
pods that you bring in.> Thanks, Kylee Valenciennea
puellaris and Amblyeleotris guttata compatibility 11/17/05
I had a Valenciennea puellaris that jumped from my tank, so I had my LFS
order another, but his supplier sent him Amblyeleotris guttata instead.
<Not unusual to have suppliers mix gobies up> My questions are: 1)
would these 2 fish be compatible in a 135g system? <Mmm, yes, should
get along> Since the diamond watchman and the spotted prawn look so
similar, I didn't know if that might cause them to fight. <Not
likely> 2) I believe I had sufficient 'pods for the puellaris (they
are -everywhere- both amphipods and copepods, very easy to find all over
the rocks, glass, sand, any time of day). I have about 3-4" of
sugar-sized sand throughout, and the live rock offers a lot of places
for things to hide (very porous and stacked to make crevices). My
concern is if they both eat 'pods that I would not have enough. I
planned to add a refugium within the next 2 months, but do not have one
yet. Would these two fish compete for food? <Not to the point of
starvation here> 3) I know the puellaris likes finer sand than the
guttata - would it be possible to put some more coarse sand/gravel on
one side for the prawn goby and keep just the finer sand at the other
end for the puellaris to encourage them to stay on different sides of
the tank? <I would not add, mix the substrates> Thanks! Scott
Hardin <Try as the system is currently. Should be fine. Bob Fenner>
Mandarin/Diamond Goby question 6/10/06 I have a
question or two for you. I have 110 Gallon tank, with about 90 lbs. of
live rock. I am planning to run the tank approximately 6 months to a
year before adding any piscine buddies; I really want to let all the
critters populate the rock and sand. Question; would this amount of
time provide enough live food to sustain a Mandarinfish (Synchiropus
splendidus), without a refugium? <Likely so... with an absence of
competitors> Would he/she eventually eat through all the pods, or
would they have enough space and numbers to sustain a healthy population
indefinitely? <Likely large enough to sustain an ongoing food
population here> I suppose I can make refugium area in my sump, but
I don't want to light it since I tend to have heat issues and that is
just one more source to worry about. Can the pods grow fine in the
dark? <Many types, yes> Actually, it is not
completely dark since it is in a fish room and receives stray light from
the tank above, but definitely not enough "quality" light to grow any
macro algae with. I can put some aragonite sand and some filter floss
for them to live in....would this work? <Possibly> Last
question; this is regarding a Diamond Goby. Would that be in
competition for food with the mandarin goby? <Particularly when
small yes. Still as a consumer of benthic, in-fauna that give rise to
other organisms with age, size as well> When they filter the sand,
do they specifically target pods, or are they just getting the detritus?
<Sift most all "large-enough" worms, crustaceans, molluscs...> Thank
you for your time, it is appreciated. Take care. Paul <Bob
Fenner> Goby Dust…The “Engineering” Nightmare? –
03/06/08 Crew, <<Ben>> Thank you in advance. <<Happy to
assist>> I recently added a Diamond Goby to my 240. I made sure he
was eating at the LFS for several days before getting him and he
continues to eat well at home. <<Excellent>> After finally adding
him to the display after QT he is now "going to town" on my sand.
<<Indeed…and likely “crop-dusting” your rock/corals>> I have a grain
size mixture that includes oolitic sand. He is doing such a good job
that I have a good amount of particulate matter in the water column now.
<<No doubt…the fish are quite the “stirrers”>> Will this be
detrimental to other livestock in anyway, gills etc.? <<It may cause
some irritation to those organisms that can’t slough it of easily (e.g.
– plating Acroporids)…but for the most part it should cause no harm>>
I understand that the photosynthetic animals will not receive quite as
much light until this thing works itself out, but what about fish?
<<The fish will be fine… But don’t expect this to “work out.” The goby
will always find another place to dig…or at the least, gobble up
mouths-full of sand and sprinkle it around the tank (crop-dusting)>>
I'm hoping this is purely aesthetic for the time being and won't hurt
anything. Last time I went snorkeling the water wasn't exactly crystal
clear, so I hope the fish will be okay. I guess I'm just used to my
water being extremely clear with UV, carbon etc. <<Indeed, is/will be
more bother to you than most anything else in the tank. I have a 6”
Barred Goby (Amblygobius phalaena) in my 375g reef display that keeps
quite a bit of the fine substrate/detritus in suspension. If I had it to
do over I would forgo the goby…but not because of any “harm” it has done
to the system/livestock>> Thank you, Ben <<Quite welcome.
EricR>> Orange Spotted Diamond Goby afraid of new
Two Spot Bristletooth 12/5/08 Tang Dear Wet
Web Media, <Laura> I have an 85 gallon reef tank with a 2.5" live
sand bed and plenty of live rock with the following parameters: KH 9
Calcium 450 Magnesium 1350 Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0
Phosphates 0 Temperature 77-78.5 Tank has a very efficient
protein skimmer and a refugium with Chaetomorpha growing in it. Water
changes are done monthly. I supplement with trace elements, iron,
strontium, calcium, and potassium iodide regularly. My tank is 9
months old Inhabitants are: 1 Multicolor Pygmy Angel 1 Golden
Rhomboidalis Wrasse 1 Fiji Yellow Sailfin Blenny 2 Black and White
Ocellaris Clowns 1 Midas Blenny 1 Royal Gramma 1 Diamond
Watchman Goby 2 Cleaner Shrimp 3 Fire Shrimp 2 Emerald Crabs
Cleaner crew of Blue Hermit Crabs and Cerith Snails obtained from GARF.
Many SPS and LPS corals and one Crocea clam I did have a Citron Clown
Goby that recently passed away, due primarily (my best assumption) to
malnutrition. Her stomach was concave most of her life (I had her about
6 months) and she would never eat well enough for me to feel
comfortable. <Very... too common> With the exception of my Sailfin
Blenny (loves Julian Sprung's Reef Veggies!), my tank thrives of
Spectrum Thera-A pellets, Cyclopeeze, Phytoplankton, and the Sea Veggies
daily. Now for my dilemma...My last and final fish was added
approximately 6 days ago - a "teenage" Two Spot Bristletooth Tang. It is
by far the largest fish in the tank (that is why I added it last) at
about 4 inches. She has settled in quite well, eating the Spectrum
Thera-A pellets and Sea Veggies voraciously. My Multicolor Pygmy Angel
has definitely had some stress issues with her, I say this because she
has been swimming in kind of a loop at one end of the tank, something
she was not doing before the Tang came in. But, she seems to be settling
down as each day passes and I don't see a real issue here. My Wrasse
hid behind a rock the first day the Tang came in, and since has been out
and about and acting completely normal. The problem (surprise!) is with
the Diamond Watchman Goby. <This is surprising to me as well> She
is very frightened of the tang, and will not venture out from under her
rock covered with mushrooms. If she does come out, the tang zooms down
to see it, and with a cloud of sand, the goby is back under the rock. I
don't know if there is true aggression on the part of the Tang - I have
seen her zoom at the Goby a few times when the Goby gets enough nerve up
to try to come out. I have been very worried and have been spot feeding
her the Spectrum Pellets (she loves these) with a turkey baster near her
home twice a day. This just makes the Tang hang around there more,
increasing the problem! I am not sure what to do. The Goby was
incredibly active and entertaining before the Tang came in, and sifted
sand the entire day, even ate Sea Veggies from our veggie clip when she
could sneak them in, and shut herself in her "apartment" every night at
6;30 P.M. You could literally set your watch to it! I feel as if I
have really upset a lovely community of fish with the new Tang. He is a
beautiful fish, and I researched the compatibility levels very carefully
before adding him. My Goby's behavior is really throwing me, and I would
welcome any and all suggestions you could provide. <Mmm, patience at
this point...> Getting the Tang out of the tank would require
breaking the whole thing down - basically a nightmare. Your help is very
much appreciated. On another note- I chose the Two Spot Bristletooth
Tang because they are, for the most part, hardy, don't get too terribly
big, great algae eaters, and just a great reef fish. I was assured by
many trusted sources (including much web research) he should be fine for
the size of my tank, but I would like your opinion on this as well.
Thank you, Laura Garmizo <Thank you for providing so much
information so well... If it were me, I would do nothing outside what
you have been doing... At least for another week. I suspect the new
social dynamic will set in by then... with all becoming "used to" each
other. Bob Fenner>
Re: Orange Spotted Diamond Goby afraid of new Two Spot
12/5/08 Bristletooth Tang Hi Bob, <Hello Laura>
Thank you so very much for the prompt reply - and the reassurance.
<Glad to render it> Will do. This Diamond Watchman Goby was quite a
character before the Tang came in. I hope her "chutzpa" will get the
better of her soon! Thank you again, Laura Garmizo <I have high
confidence that s/he will... What you relate so well is often seen... in
captivity, a new animal being added, resulting in a period of
readjustment in extant population behavior. Particularly amongst/between
organisms utilizing similar space, habitat, food resources... I do think
you will have no real problem here in the longer haul. Cheers, BobF>
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