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FAQs on Valenciennea/Sleeper, Sifter Gobies: Disease
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Watchman Goby w/ mark 8/21/09
Dear Crew: I have a Diamond Watchman Goby (Valenciennea puellaris) in my
10 gal QT. He has been there for a week now and is eating fine. I had a
question at the LFS about this dark spot under his "chin" that looked
like a flat birthmark that I didn't recall in any pictures I had seen.
<Is not an uncommon coloring, bump... from physical damage... not
harmful>
I asked about it and they said it was nothing to worry about.
<I concur>
I guess that was not the case as it appears to be growing. On day 9 in
QT, I noticed that it is growing/bulging out and that he has a couple of
'spider veins' on the bridge of his nose - it's hard to tell in this
picture, but I think you can make it out. My question. is it a tumor? Is
there anything I can do to treat it?
<I'd just move this fish to larger, permanent quarters...>
I was planning on putting him in my 120 gal display at the end of 2
weeks (in accordance with Bob's recommendations for this fish), but it
looks like he may never make it there. I'm bummed that I think I bought
a sick fish. Any idea of his malady? I've attached a picture for you.
<Not a malady per se, but a "rub mark" if you will... Not to worry; in
better settings this spot should mend in time. Bob Fenner>
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Re: Watchman Goby w/ mark
Yeah! Thank you so much Bob! Your advice is so wonderful. This is much
better news than I expected and without it I would have tormented him in
the QT tank for fear of putting him in the display. You've helped me
save his life! I've read every page and every word of your Conscientious
Marine Aquarist and it's helped me be pretty successful and definitely
more confident. Jean
<Ahh, so glad to have aided your efforts, solace Jean. BobF>
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Sick Orange Spotted Goby Bob, Thanks for your reply on my
feather duster last week. Still haven't seen any activity from it's
tube. Still waiting... Loved your book, BTW. I have an Orange
Spotted Goby that is quite industrious at sifting my sand. I have
noticed in the last week that he is losing weight and is "bent" or
"twisted" in the middle. It behaves normally and eats well including
flake, gel, frozen brine and raw shrimp soaked in Selcon. I would
normally suspect diet, but it eats eagerly and IMHO, broadly. No
other fishes behaving abnormally. Any ideas? It's a tank favorite. If
I lose it. Any ideas on a replacement sand sifter? I do not have live
sand (yet). Thanks again, Mark >> The worm may take weeks to
months to regenerate its crown... sorry for that lack of info. And
really like these gobies too... and/but find them starving in many
situations... my real advice is more food, more frequently... They
should (for all the browsers) only be placed in well-established (let's
say six months old plus) full blown reef tanks... Other sand sifters
I like are in the same genus (Valenciennea) and Amblygobius (esp.
hectori)... a few Seastars... some other fishes. Bob Fenner
Dying Goby (6/6/04) I have a question concerning my orange
diamond goby. <Valenciennea puellaris. This fish is a sand-sifter and
will often starve to death in aquariums without a well-established (1
year or more) live sand bed.> I bought him about 2 1/2 weeks ago and I
think he is on his way out. I have had my tank up and running for about
3 months and it is a 40 gallon tank. I have two Perc clowns, 1 green
Chromis, one tiny black and white damsel, a small yellow tang and the
diamond. <The Yellow Tang will outgrow the tank.> I have about 30+lbs of
live rock and 2+ inches of live sand. I have an emperor 400 filter,
however I don't have a protein skimmer or UV sterilizer. <A skimmer
would be nice. The UV is not necessary.> I have 4 shrimp, 2 peppermint
and 2 camel shrimp. Also, I have about 4-8 hermit crabs and 10-12
snails. I changed around 15% of the water prior to adding my goby. I
acclimated him and put him in. <No quarantine? I sure hope he's not sick
from a contagious disease that could wipe out your tank.>
Immediately he went under some live rock and then I did not see him for
2 days. Finally, he stuck his head out. He would grab a flake of food
or a brine and would go back under. Every day he came out more and more.
The little fellow got pretty brave and would roam the bottom with one
eye on the other fish. He was always a little nervous around the yellow
tang. The tang was not attacking him but would swim close and the goby
would hide out. <Could have been attacking when you weren't watching.
The goby is shy, and will not respond well to intimidation.> All of the
sudden, 2 days ago I did my biweekly water change. I don't recall if he
was acting strange before or after, but I believe it was before. He
stopped eating and would not come out of the rocks. Now I noticed that
he comes out of the rocks at late night. He also seems to be breathing
heavy. <Bad sign> One other thing that I did not think of much until now
is that he had a tiny pink spot on him when I got him. I didn't notice
it on him in the store and though he just scraped into a rock or
something. <Possible. If so, a portal for infection.> That spot
disappeared after a few days and I though nothing of it. My water
parameters are fine. Salinity 1.023-25, temp 78, no noticeable levels of
nitrite or ammonia. Furthermore, all of the other fish are happy as can
be. I was wondering if maybe the tang wounded him because the tang
keeps pestering him now that he is just laying in the sand bed. I have
to keep an eye on the tang and chase him away. I don't know what to do,
any suggestions. LFS says that water quality is bad <why do they say
this?>, but it is not and there are no spots, fin rot and his eyes are
not cloudy. What can I do to save my little sand sifting buddy? <Take
him out and put him in a hospital tank where you can try to nurse him
back to health. Read about quarantine/hospital tanks on WWM. Hope this
helps, Steve Allen.> Mysterious Goby Loss Hi Crew,
Scott F. here today> I arrived home tonight to find my 7” Diamond
Goby dead in my tank. This sand-sifting superhero had lived in my tank
for over a year. I was very worried about him after he had been in my
tank for a about a month as he looked as if he was going to starve to
death. To allow him to eat food, I would squirt mysids under the sand
where other fish could not get to them. After doing this for several
days, he eventually began to eat the mysids directly from the feeding
tube. After that he had no fear of other fish and he would readily fight
for anything I put in the tank (as well as chasing anything that looked
like a tube). Since this he has always appeared to be in excellent
health. The only changes recent I am aware of are the addition of a
Pterosynchiropus splendidus and a Synchiropus picturatus to the
aquarium, along with several coral frags (5 soft + 5 SPS), a 4”
Lobophyllia and a 6” Alveopora. This is all in a 180g tank with a 20g
refugium (teeming with ‘pods and a little Gracilaria and Caulerpa).
<Sounds like a nice setup for this fish> Water parameters look good
to me: Temp=78F, Salinity=1.024, Ammonia=0, Nitrite=o, Nitrate<5 ppm,
Ca=380, Alk=6. The only parameter that I have noticed to be out of range
lately is the temperature. Our air conditioner went out last week so the
temp got as high as 84F and fluctuated between 78F and 84F a few times
but has stabilized at 77F-78F for the past two days. I realize this
situation is less than ideal but the Diamond Goby is not the fish I
would have expected to show the first signs of stress. <I doubt that
a brief journey into the mid eighties would suddenly kill an otherwise
healthy fish...> My Xenia, Powder Blue tang other corals, inverts and
fish all appear to still be doing well. Do you think the goby could have
choked on something or, since he was as large as what most books list as
maximum size, maybe he was just very old when I purchased him?
<Anything is possible...Could have even been a slow deterioration (such
as "old age") that coincidently peaked when the temp of the tank got up
there...> Although I assumed he was getting all nutrition from eating
pellet food, silversides and whatever else I feed my fish, maybe he was
getting all real nutrition from ‘pods and the two dragonets have nearly
eliminated the ‘pod population (in about one week)? <A definite
possibility...> Since I have 200 pounds of LR. in a 180g tank with a
refugium that is overflowing with ‘pods I am guessing this last theory
is a long-shot. <A long shot, but certainly not impossible...Slow
starvation based on malnutrition is possible, too- however unlikely that
seems> Any insight or guesses would be appreciated. Greg <Well,
Greg, I'm going to have to postulate that it was simply the fish's
"time"...Sometimes, a fish will expire suddenly regardless of care and
conditions...A frustrating occurrence, but entirely too common. I'm
afraid that, in the absence of environmental lapses and obvious disease
signs, this fish may have simply expired for reasons that we cannot
explain. Sorry for that unsatisfying answer, but we just cannot tell
without a detailed postmortem...Don't be too discouraged- you gave it a
great shot! Regards, Scott F> Sleeper Goby Hey Crew,
<Mark> A few questions regarding setting up a Q-tank if I may. <Go
ahead> Looking to pick up a Sleeper Gold Head Goby (Valenciennea
strigata) in a few days for my 75G (setup 2+ years, 40# LR, 4" oolite
DSB, two clowns, purple tang and a cleaner shrimp). Q-tank is 15G, have
a hang-on power filter that will take foam elements that have been in my
main tank for awhile. Questions: -Should I fill (or partly fill)
the Q-tank with water from the 75G? <Yes> -Considering is a sand
sifter, go a shallow sand bed or stay bare bottom? <Mmm, a toss-up...
if the animal looks fine otherwise, I'd add substrate... but if you
think you might want/have to add medicant/s, I'd omit it... Actually...
if the fish looks fine I'd probably skip quarantine altogether... and
just pH adjusted freshwater dip and place it... More to be lost than
gained with many such fishes (touchy, easily starved varieties)>
-Tank previously setup with eggcrate lid, okay or should I be looking
for a glass top? <All openings large enough to exit up must be
covered> -How to feed the goby while in QT? <A "turkey" baster...
meaty food items, frequently> -What should be the minimum stay?
<None to a few weeks> Lastly, when is Part2 in the NMA series due
out? <Heeeeee! Wish I could tell... a few to several months likely>
Thanks in advance, Mark <Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Valenciennea strigata Rescue - 2/21/2006 A great
pleasure to write to you. Your answers and articles have steered and
scared me in the right direction many times though foolish (human)
mistakes are always abound. <Ah, yes> I purchased 2
Valenciennea strigata from my LFS today. I've been waiting for these
fish for some time and they always come in damaged or not at all. I only
paid for one the 2nd seemed to be in Osmotic shock while the healthy one
was hovering and protecting him. I looked at them yesterday and said I
would take them today if he made it through the night, and he did.
Symptoms are mostly upside down and not swimming much at all, heavy
breathing. no other obvious signs of parasites. LFS said he came out of
the bag like this. I know its probably a lost cause but a worthy
one. any suggestions would be Greatly appreciated.....Chris in Rhode
Island <Keep the area around where these are being quarantined
quiet, the tank unlit... offer some live foods (crustaceans, worms),
live rock... Bob Fenner> Blue Dot Sleeper Goby Acclimation
03/25/07 Hi All - <Hello Brandon here.> I have a
question. <I will try to have an answer.> I just
acquired a Sleeper Blue Dot Goby (Valenciennea sexguttata) from a
LFS. Looks healthy, was eating in the store. <Good
sign.> I just acclimated it and now have it in a 10G quarantine
tank. <Good Job on Quarantining.> The tank has no
substrate, just two medium sized pieces of live rock and one piece of
large PVC. I've read in a few places on the site that I should only QT
fish that live in burrows for two weeks or so as the stress of no
substrate will be bad for him. Then I read other areas about a minimum
of 4 weeks for any fish. <I would not worry about the
stress too much here. It would be far worse if you were to place the
fish in your display only to loose fish due to an outbreak of disease.>
I've always done 4 weeks min in the past with success. What should I do
for him? <I would go with four weeks.> Thanks!
<You’re welcome. Brandon.> Mike
Bullet Goby... Thin, Lack of Food? 9/9/07 Hello Crew,
<Hi Tim, Mich here.> I have a bullet goby which I has been a
great addition to my aquarium, <Glad to hear.> my algae is
almost non-existent thanks to him which brings about my problem. He
seems to clean so good that I'm afraid he's not getting enough food.
<Heehee! Send him my way I could feed him for a while!> To date
I've tried feeding him frozen brine, frozen Mysis, algae strips (may
or may not be eating) phytoplankton, pellet food (tried that
tonight, jury is still out) I'm considering krill next. <Ok. I
do have a few more suggestions. I would soak whatever you offer him
in a vitamin supplement such as Selcon. You may also want to try
Spirulina, dried brown or red algae, or perhaps some Spectrum foods.
I have not personally used Spectrum foods but I have heard many
extolling its palatability and high nutritional value.> The only
other fish he is competing with is a sebae clown which doesn't
bother him at all. I really don't want to lose this fish. Here is a
pic ... notice the stomach area. <Yes, he does not look well.
Perhaps you have friend whose tank has a little excess algae?>
Thank You, <Welcome! Mich> Tim
Bullet Goby... Thin, Lack of Food? Now Eating Brine Shrimp
9/10/07 <Hi Tim, Mich with you again.> Some good news, he
is eating live brine like a mad man. <YAY!> This is the first
time I've ever put live brine in my tank since it has zero
nutritional value. I'm going to start hatching some and soaking them
in Selcon. <Good, is a start. Hopefully will eventually be able
to get him to eat something with more nutritional value such as
frozen Mysis.> I hope it's not too late for him. <Me too!>
If I get live brine from the LFS, is it a waste of time soaking them
in Selcon? <No I think any bit might benefit this fish.> Thank
You, <Welcome! Mich> Tim | 
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Diamond goby lip breaking away 2/5/08 Hello to you
all, <Howdy> Most of the time I come to your page for answers. But
I am unable to find a proper solution to my problem. I have a 4-5in
diamond goby that has been in the tank for a week or so now. His tank
mates are a Sailfin tang, coral beauty, flame hawk, <Mmmm, suspect
#1> beta, 2 ocellaris (sp) clowns, and a Fiji puffer. <What
species is this?> Now I know that the hawk fish can be a little punk,
mine has been in the past. So I got a goby over twice a big as him.
The goby doesn't seem care the hawk was aggravated, but that stopped
after 2 days. The goby just went around eating and making holes in the
sand since day one. But yesterday that stopped. The goby's face seems
all messed up, like he was eating rough sand. I have had goby's in the
past and none had a problem eating my sand bed. its not gravel or
anything, just sand, and a few shells for the crabs. His upper lip is
almost gone and a piece of it is still attached and it moves in and out
of his mouth as he breathes, which is now quite rapid. You can tell
its red and irritated. I can understand why he isn't sifting, it would
hurt it seems. But when I feed the tank he doesn't eat that food. :*(
I don't know what to do, I have a 150g reef tank so I cant just put some
anti-biotics. The sal is 1.023 <I'd raise this> the ph is 8.2 and
all low readings on the bad stuff Ammonia, NO NO2, PO4 etc. And no other
fish are bugging him or affected by anything. <Then... whence forth
the damage? Something worked this animal.> But I feel bad if there is
something I can do and I am not. I am sure you understand. Well thanks
for your time. Best Regards Rob <I'd be moving this fish... to
somewhere more simpatico... hoping it heals, feeds on its own... a
refugium if you have one. Bob Fenner>
Orange-spot Goby - QT question/possible Ich 01/24/2008 Hello
CREW, <<Hello Brian, Andrew here, sorry for the delay in
response>> For starters, thank you for the awesome website, it is
my primary source of information and research (besides the
Conscientious Marine Aquarist, of course). Can't wait until the
updated edition of the book comes out. <<AM sure Bob will release
details when he can, and thank you>> Main tank is a 75 gal FOWLR
system, QT is a 20 gal. Both systems have been up and running for
about 2 months at this point (still a bit young). Main tank has
2 Ocellaris Clowns and 2 PJ Cardinals. QT currently holds 1
Orange-spot goby (I have identified as /Valenciennea
puellaris/)<<Correct>>, and 1 Banggai Cardinal. These fish have been
in QT for 5 days now. Some aragonite substrate was added to the QT
for the sand sifter, it is usually bare bottomed. <<Personally,
I would of left it bare bottom. Substrate in the quarantine tank can
harbour parasites which can infect other fish>> For the first 3
days, neither fish would eat. I added garlic drops to their food and
the goby is now eating everything in sight. <<That's good to
hear>> The cardinal still has yet to eat more than a piece or two
of mysis. After researching, I understand the tank is a bit young
for this goby (learned my lesson on not researching first), but at
least he is readily taking prepared foods. <<Yes, we sometimes do
learn the hard way. By providing a diet yourself, will help a lot
for the fish>> I have read on WWM that extended quarantines for
these types of gobies is not recommended, let alone quarantining at
all. On the 2nd day in QT, I noticed white spots on the goby's fins
that looked to be Ich (picture attached). That evening was the first
time he ate (when I began using garlic), and the spots were gone the
next morning. These spots were only there for 24 hours. Could this
have been Ich? Also, at this point, would it be wise to move him to
the main tank or leave him in QT? <<Ich would not of disappeared
so quickly, it's possible it was fine grains on sand on the fins>>
The Cardinal has shown no signs of disease. Also, I have seen
conflicting statements in regards to FW dips for these fish. Should
I or shouldn't I? <<I would always quarantine, about 4 weeks, and
yes, I would FW dip>> Curiously, in some of the pictures, the
spots appear black depending on if water or substrate is behind the
fin. All spots are in fact white, regardless of what color they
show in the pictures. <<Again, this would lead me more towards
grains of sand, with the changing colour from pictures and naked
eye>> Thanks for all your advice, Brian Gross. <<Thanks for
the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Re: Orange-spot Goby - QT question/possible Ich 01/25/2008
Andrew, thank you so much for your reply. <<Glad I could help>>
One thing though, I am virtually 100% positive that the spots on his
fins were not grains of sand. The fact that the spots came and went
over a 24 - 36 hour period was confusing to me as well. As for the
FW dip, would you do it with any additives (such as Methylene Blue),
or straight FW (pH adjusted, I assume)? <<pH adjusted and using
blue, that's correct>> As for the Banggai Cardinal, it still
refuses to eat. It has now been 6 days and it has eaten (at most) 4
- 5 pieces of mysis shrimp. Is there anything else I can possibly
do? I have tried both frozen mysis and frozen brine (Spirulina
enriched) soaked in garlic and Zoe. I read through the Banggai
FAQ's and am still at a loss. I fear he will not last much longer if
I can't find a way to get him to eat. His stomach is quite indented
at this point. <,You could try adding Selcon to some food, to see
if this will entice the Cardinal to eat.
http://ww.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=5009 >>
Thank you once again for your time and a wonderful website.
<<Glad we could help you. Please keep me informed on both fish. A
Nixon>> Regards, -Brian
Re: Orange-spot Goby - QT question/possible Ich 01/30/2008
Andrew, <<Hello Brian>> Just a quick update. The Goby is doing
great. He is still eating like a champion and fattening up quite
nicely. He is having the time of his life, the QT tank typically
looks like a sandstorm has passed through. As the sand was put
in the QT only for him (being a sand sifter and all), it will be
removed and disposed of when the Goby comes out of QT. <<Sounds
wonderful, glad the fish is doing well?? Unfortunately the
Banggai Cardinal passed away Friday evening. He never would eat, no
matter what we tried. He wouldn't even eat live brine. Just
another lesson learned, in addition to all of the other things you
do when selecting livestock, one should always make sure you have
the LFS feed the fish prior to you purchasing. <<And not so
wonderful...Yes, its always a good idea to see a fish eat at the
store prior to purchase, and preferably, see the fish eat a couple
of different foods over a couple of day. Sad that the fish died>>
Thanks again for all of the help, Brian <<Thanks for the follow
up Brian and good luck. A Nixon>> | 
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Black Mark on Sleeper Goby 2-9-08 Yunachin, <Hi there!>
Thanks for your reply. <No problem at all.> I have one last
question; this time about my sleeper goby. <Okie dokie.> He has
developed a black marking where his chin is. It appears to be getting
darker everyday (the marking). Could it be a disease? Or stress?
<Could be an array of things. Is there any way that you can send a
picture for a better identification?> Thanks again, <No prob!
–Yunachin> Merlinda
Re: Black Mark on Sleeper Goby 2-11-08 Hello again,
<Hi.> Attached are pictures of my goby with the black marking.
<I did a pretty extensive search just to make sure of myself and
found that this marking is indeed a natural color variation. Here is
the link where I got a very nice close-up:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-09/hcs3/index.php; > Thanks,
<Glad to be of help.—Yunachin> Merlinda. | 
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