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FAQs About Water Changes for Marine Systems:
Trouble/Fixing
Related Articles: Marine Water Change,
The
“Perfect” Water Change Regimen? by Scott Fellman,
Water Changes, Exchanges by Anthony Calfo, Captive
Seawater Quality,
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Marine Maintenance,
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Water Changes for Marine
Systems 2, Water Changes 3,
Water Changes 4,
& FAQs on Water Changes: Rationale,
Gear/Tools, Frequency/Amount,
Techniques, Automation,
& Water Top-Off Systems,
Evaporation/Water Make-Up, Treating Tapwater, Marine
Water Quality, Marine Plumbing,
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Water change?
to Mr. Fenner,
How are you Robert?
<Very well my friend, thank you>
I have a quick
question. I have been recently bringing down a high nitrate environment. I have
a 180 gal tank and have been doing about 40 gallons at a time. When I did my
last water change everything in my tank stopped moving and shriveled. I use tap
water with declorenease. It sits with a large power head overnight.
<Hmm, a dangerous protocol... Please read through the "Seawater
Use" section on our site: www.WetWebMedia.com and you will find I encourage
a good week of mixing, waiting ahead of such new water use...>
When I had checked my salinity the first time they were both the same.
Afterwards I realized that the hydrometer was broken. My new readings are 1.022,
nitrates are at 40, nitrites are 0, and ammonia is 0, ph is 8.4. I believe that
the salinity may have been off now, The clams have folded in on themselves but
are still alive. some of the snails died but seem to be coming out of shock. All
of the corals are wilted and shrunken in. The zooanthids are closed. They all
secreted some sort of slime, I am assuming as a protection.
<yes, likely... and maybe from chemicals in the new synthetic in addition to
or instead of a difference in spg...>
My question what to you does it sound like I did wrong. And will my corals and
clams survive? Desperately needing advice,
Ryan Alexaki
<All will likely be fine... Do look into reducing your nitrates in other ways
other than dilution ("Nitrates" FAQs on the WWM site), use of
"Macro Algae" and perhaps more live rock... a deep sand bed, maybe a
plenum set-up in an attached sump... and do develop a solid routine of
pre-making your seawater (with a marked volume in the tub, and a container of
about the right volume for the sea salt... to get the spg about right, and let
aerate, heat for a good week ahead of use. Bob Fenner>
Algal blooms with water changes
Hi Bob
Hope you are doing well these day's. I have a question about my water
changes. I make up my water about 7 day's before I do the initial change. My
salinity is a steady 1023.Every time I do my water change, I seem to get an alga
bloom. All of my readings are, calcium 450, alk 11dkh,ph8.3, no nitrate or phos.
detectable. Do you know what is causing this??
<Possibly silicates (SiO2)... or other "rate limiting" material in
the source water...>
I don't have a algae problem until I change the water, hope you can
help, everything in my tank looks great. As always ,thank you very much.
<Look into an inexpensive reverse osmosis unit. One with a "carbon"
contactor filter in its flow path. Bob Fenner>
Water changes (mal-affects causes)
Hi Bob,
A quick input if you will...what's wrong with my fish after water change???
My yellow tang swims around in circles & gets dizzy looking. A couple of
water changes ago, I lost a damsel; so I'm wondering what's killing my fish
or almost killing my fish. I change 5 gallons a wk & 10 gallons during any
major tank clean of my 55 gallon. So, what's affecting my fish the most?
The temp of my new water?? The salinity of new water?? Low oxygen of new
water?? or just changing out to much water. All of the above! I do match
the new water with tank water pretty good, I think...I guess what I'm trying
to ask, what are fish most sensitive to during water change??
thanks,
Lee Harris
Dallas, TX
<Very good question... and "who knows?"... perhaps all the above.
My ongoing advice can be found under "Seawater"... on the WWM site...
pre-mix and store it... Bob Fenner>
Water change bubbles
Bob,
Once again, I turn to the master. In trying to raise the PH which was just
slightly low, I did my first water change in my new tank (live sand only, so
far-LR tomorrow). I got a bazillion fine bubbles in the tank. They were
just flowing out of the Bak Pak 2 water return in a cloud. I put filter
floss over the opening of the return pipe but it didn't help much so I
turned off the air to the skimmer. surely this isn't normal. What am I
doing wrong?
<Likely not much... maybe some hygroscopic particles came in with the water
change... and your system is new (and will become less "bubbly" with
age)... but the Bak Paks do have this propensity... You might want to rig up a
"dump area" like a hang on device in the tank... with more material
(bioballs, Dacron...) to dissipate these for now... Bob Fenner>
I hope by now you have recovered from your "working" vacation but, I
have
found with age, it takes a "few hours" longer.
<Wowzah, been back for two weeks and am way past due for getting out
again!>
Thanks for the help.
Thom Walters
Water Changes Stressing Yellow Tang.
Hi WWM Guys,
<Cheers, Glenn>
I don't know how my FOWLR tank got by until I found y'alls site.
<whew... a lot of pressure answering this query with a lead off like that
<wink>>
I perform a 10 gallon salt water change each week for my 75 FOWLR tank.
<very nice schedule>
Every time, my Yellow tang seems to stress out for a day or so. Then he goes
back to his normal self.
<hmmm...odd and shouldn't be>
The new water is usually w/in a degree of the tank water. PH & SP are the
same. I siphon water from the bottom of the tank and then slowly pump new water
back into it. Would a sudden reduction in Nitrates stress a fish?
<a little... >
I would not think so. I've recently started using aged tap water. However, he
reacted the same way w/water from the LFS. They use RO for their water supply.
Any ideas, what I'm missing here?
<do check the other components (Alk, Ca, etc)... but you may simply have a
skittish individual. Are the other fish generally undisturbed by it? Perhaps the
bright lights with the water level drop shock it... eh, maybe not <wink>.
Your YT may be just sensitive>
Thanks again, Glenn
<kindly, Anthony>Re: Water Changes Stressing Yellow Tang.
Thanks for the advice Anthony.
<Steven Pro this morning.>
My other fish hide during the change, which is done with the lights turned out.
Afterwards they come out and go about their normal routine. Here in North Texas,
we're blessed with hard tap water. Although it's murder on plumbing fixtures
with rubber o-ring valves) PH is usually 8.0 - 8.1 ..I guess my YT is just
sensitive.
BTW, his ailment (Velvet or Gill Flukes) are gone. I took your advice and gave
him daily FW Dips for 8 days. Of course he did not go willingly. I had to remove
all the LR every day to catch him though.
<I think I know why you Yellow Tang is nervous about you doing something in
the tank :).>
Do you have any advice for catching fish in tanks full of LR?
<Feeding then scooping quickly with the net or using a small barbless fishing
hook. Once you catch them the first time, it is far easier on you and your fish
to place them into a bare bottom quarantine/hospital tank with easily removable
inert decorations.>
Thanks, Glenn
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
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Chloramine Deaths.
Hi There,
<cheers!>
Recently, I've had deaths in my tanks directly after partial water changes that
must have been chloramine-related.
<Not likely... more commonly a discrepancy in temperature or pH. Do you
really have so much Chloramine that you can smell it from feet away? Most
dechlorinators easily neutralize this treatment>
I unfortunately used a "one-step" product for my water changes that I
will never use again.
<do reconsider that most every Dechlor product is virtually identical in
efficacy>
A friend told me about your site. I'm glad he did! I've did a good deal of
reading of your site. I'm intrigued about your "vat method," --
letting water sit or be mixed for a week or more before being added.
<chlorine will dissipate in open air but chloramine never will... a chemical
bond that must be broken (with a de-Ammoniating product.. most conditioners)>
My question is, what will this method do, if anything, to "toxic
metals?"
<absolutely nothing>
Should I be concerned about this?
<hmmm... rare in potable tap water. If concerned, get a prefilter stuffed
with PolyFilter pads to draw water through>
Thanks! Walter B. Klockers Plano, TX
<best regards, Anthony Calfo>
Top-Off Water pH Problems
Sorry to bother you with another question again so soon, but I am at a loss as
to what to do about my top-off water's pH.
<No problem.>
I purchase RO water from my LFS. I've tried Kent's Osmo-Prep as well as
Seachem's Marine Buffer, but what keeps happening is that the pH is fine as soon
as I add it to the RO water, but by the next day the water is highly acidic and
below my pH test scale. I aerate the water as soon as I bring it home and keep
it aerated as I use it throughout the week, but it will not maintain an
acceptable pH. What I'm trying to do is have freshwater constantly aerated and
pH adjusted so that I can just pour it in the tank once or twice a day to make
up for evaporation. Can you recommend a way to do this? Or do I need to pH
adjust the top-off water each and every time I add it?
<You should not need to keep adding buffers everyday. Perhaps you are just
testing too quickly and the RO water has not had enough time to mix with your
buffers. I use Seachem Reef Builder and Marine Buffer, about 1/2 teaspoon of
each for every five gallons, and have not had a problem.>
Thanks so much again for your assistance! Karen
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Water Change & pH Problems
Dear Mr. Fenner,
I have recently diluted my 100 gallon tank from 1.024 to 1.022 during a
water change and observed a drop in PH from 8.2 to 7.9. I have checked the water
quality from Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate, almost zero concentration. Water
buffer is still high. However, the PH remains below 8.0. What should I do?
Change more water?
<Usually the best move. I would first double check the pH and alkalinity of
the new water to ensure it is in the proper range. Please search through WWM
regarding saltwater mixing issues.>
Best regards! I-Ching Liao
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Re: Ammonia
Bob, <<Not Bob, JasonC here...>> I believe I may have found the
source of my ammonia problem. <<ok>> I vacuum the substrate surface
ever time I do a water change every week (approx.. 13% removal) and my ammonia
was still traceable. The tank has been running for 2 years, I have never had
this problem before. I clean all of my filters every week. What the problem was
is that I was not vacuuming deep enough, the tank has a 1-1/2" s deep sand
bed and I realize that the fish waste and other junk was not just on the
surface, but deeper in the sand bed. How often should you move around LR?
<<Whenever the mood strikes. If I were you, I'd look into perhaps some
more or larger powerheads in the tank so that some of this detritus makes its
way into your filters and not into the sandbed. Constant vacuuming of the sand
bed will disrupt the ability to produce/harbor beneficial organisms like
copepods and the like that would normally deal with the detritus for
you.>>
Thanks
<<Cheers, J -- >>
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