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Oscar fish 8/21/11
My Oscar's eyes are sticking out of his head more than normal, is this a disease.
<Yes. Pop-eye is a related condition where the eye has been sufficiently damaged that infection behind the eyeball causes swelling. Treatment is largely "wait and see" plus the use of Epsom salt, and optionally,
antibiotics. See here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/fwpopeyefaqs.htm
If one eye is damaged or popping, that's commonly physical damage, e.g., by clumsy netting or a frightened fish bumping into the walls of the tank. If both eyes are damaged or popping, that's often to do with poor water quality. Either way, Pop-eye is extremely common when Oscars are kept in poor conditions, typically tanks that are too small, too few water changes, poor filtration. Do read:
Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Oscar fish 8/21/11
Is popping eye a deadly disease?
<As stated in my last message, in Oscars, it is usually an indication of chronically poor environmental conditions. Without knowing anything else about your aquarium, that would be assumption here. So yes, it's a sign the Oscar is in very poor health, and without fixing both the environment AND treating the symptoms, the Oscar could well die. Not from the Popeye, but from other infections and stresses brought on by the poor environmental conditions. Sadly, this is all too common with Oscars because people keep
them in tanks that are too small, feed them too much, feed them the wrong foods (e.g., "feeder fish", Thiaminase-rich foods, not enough green foods), don't supply enough oxygen, don't do enough water changes. Cheers, Neale.>

Oscars; sys., fdg., hlth. 7/14/11
First off I'm new to Oscars and have learned TONS from the posts on your site. I have 3 juvenile Oscars. The largest 2 are around 4 inches long. I bought them because they looked cool and I had seen a friends very gregarious Oscar and thought how much it reminded me of my black lab.
So being the typical exuberant "act first and research later" Oscar owner, I bought 3 of them. Doh!
I have 2 albino's and a tiger. Originally they were all in a 35 gallon aquarium together, but later I built a new 65 gallon and moved the tiger to it along with several new jacks, auratus and a couple others.
<One Oscar will not live long or well in a 35 gallon system>
The tiger was the largest of the fish in the new aquarium and everyone has gotten along famously for several months despite significant size differences. Mistakenly I have been feeding goldfish to my various cichlids... soon to stop thanks to what I have read here.
I have been keeping the gold fish in a separate aquarium that remains heavily medicated with elevated temperatures. None of my fish have shown any signs of parasites or disease and I check them daily.
<You won't be able to see... until there are REAL problems>
The 2 albinos are still in the 35 gallon and seem to get along fine despite a significant size difference between them.
<Antagonism will occur very rapidly...>
I checked the water a couple of days ago and the nitrite/nitrate/ammonia levels are fine, but I clearly need to change the water more often.
<I'd change a good percentage every week. See WWM re>
The filter is a 55 gallon filter in a 35 gallon aquarium so it does keep ahead and I clean the filter every week or so. The 65 gallon aquarium has a 120 gallon aquarium filter in it so it too keeps ahead and the filters get cleaned at the same time as the smaller aquarium.
OK for the problems...
1. The albinos are in the 35 gallon aquarium. The larger albino for several months has randomly exhibited the odd behavior of being placid and calm for days and then suddenly slamming himself into the glass, bottom or lid.
<Due to the size/volume, and/or possibly a (goldfish vectored) parasite.
These fish need to be moved (now) to larger quarters. Read here:
It then acts like it has knocked itself out and will lay on the bottom on it's side, breathing heavily. A few minutes later it's swimming around like nothing ever happened. The albinos will obviously soon outgrow their current home, but have never conflicted or caused each other any harm. Is the large albino crazy?
<Mmm, no>
The slightly smaller one NEVER acts that way. Some times this will happen in the middle of the night when I am asleep and the thrashing around noises are so significant that it wakes me up.
2. The tiger Oscar was in the 65 gallon aquarium and has been a great fish both to me and it's tank mates. It has been in a static environment (no new fish or other changes) for several months with 4 jacks and 3 auratus and a plec
<These fishes also need a much larger world...>
of which all are smaller than the Oscar by half. This past week the Oscar stopped eating and being gregarious and then killed an auratus and started doing the random slamming into things. It currently has a deep gash in it's head. I know it wasn't the best of solutions, but I moved it back in with the other Oscars to save the other fish. The three Oscars for the past 3 days of being back together are getting along very well despite the aquarium size. The large albino and the tiger are the same size and never apart and swim side by side or lay on the bottom together. They never fight and completely ignore the smaller albino. None of then show any territorial signs...yet.
Any suggestions would be helpful.
<As you re-read the "Oscar Health/Disease FAQs" files, you might consider a mixed treatment of Metronidazole and an Anthelminthic (in foods), otherwise, STOP feeding "feeders" and oh, I see some good news below...>
Obviously these guys need much more space and I intend to build a 300 gallon in the next 6 months, but they wont wait that long.
<Likely not>
I have an empty 55 gallon that I may split them up in until then.
<A good move>
I'm concerned they will
kill themselves slamming into things. Is this remotely normal?
<Yes... from crowding, certain parasitic infestations>
Can I do anything about it?
<Read where you've been referred to>
I already removed anything from the aquarium that they could bash into the glass for fear of them hitting the glass and breaking it. Thank you in advance for your input.
<Welcome! Bob Fenner>

Tiger Oscar wounded 6/7/11
I have a 2yr old tiger Oscar, 11 inches long, who has managed to hurt itself on the decoration in my tank. I have removed the decoration. I then added some aquarium salt and a little Stress Coat+.
<Salt does little of value when treating such damage. Stress Coat may or may not help, marginally, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it!>
I had the water tested at the pet store and they said that the pH was a 6.8 and my ammonia level was good.
<By "good" we MUST mean ZERO here. So clarify this! Wounds like this one WILL heal quickly if the water is spotlessly clean. But if the water is dirty, and ammonia and nitrite levels are good proxies for water cleanliness, the wound will quickly get infected. Assuming this tank is large (75 gallons) and equipped with a decent filtration system (at least 6 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour) and that water quality is excellent (0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, and nitrate level less than 20 mg/l) this wound WILL heal, and all you need add is a suitable antibiotic to prevent secondary infection.>
I feed it Hikari Cichlid Staple, blood worms, and minnows.
<Minnows, also known as parasite bombs. If you want to offer a "live" treat, then earthworms are by far the best food.>
I'm not going to feed it minnows anymore after reading the other posts on your site. I'm not sure why it hurt itself but what worries me more is the way the wound looks now. The wound is 2days old. It has fuzzy looking white stuff on it.
<If the fuzz has the texture of cotton wool, then that's fungus, and that is usually a sign the water is not clean. Common reasons are overstocking (an Oscar this size in less than 75 gallons is overstocked) or the filter isn't adequate or the fish is being fed too much food. Obviously dead skin and flesh will be off-white in colour, much like cooked fish meat.>
Earlier today it just had a milky looking coat over it. The Oscar is not eating anything. Its feces is a milky color. It just stays in the bubbles and appears to be mouth breathing but not heavily. Please help. There are pictures attached if it helps.
<Absolutely no reason this fish should get worse. But make sure the tank is [a] clean; [b] the water is clean; and [c] that you're doing everything sensible to keep both tank and water clean. Medicate as per Finrot and, if you think relevant, Fungus (some medications, like eSHa 2000 and Seachem Paraguard treat both). If the fish appears lethargic or isn't swimming or breathing normally, assume environmental conditions are not good, and review accordingly. Do read, understand Bob's piece on the factors that affect fish health, here:
A fish in the situation of your Oscar has the potential to recover quickly, but only if its environment allows. Good luck, Neale.>

Sideways Oscar 6/2/11
Hello there, I'm hoping you can help with my Oscar issue.
<Me too>
I've read through your site and not found anything exact that covers my situation, although maybe I'm just not reading the right things. I will try to give as much information as I can think of.
I have a 75 gallon tank that has been up and running for 7 years. I have never had issues with it crashing or losing fish, all along it's been a great tank even when I neglected to clean it regularly. It has a thick layer (3inches or so) of smooth gravel with an underground filter (I know, not particularly useful for cichlids, but they've yet to dig down to it).
I also have two of the Aquaclear 500 filters (now known as 110s) and two powerheads for aeration and circulation. My current fish consist of 2 Oscars that we've had for about 2 years, they're about 6 inches long, a Leporinus that is about 8 yrs old and 8 inches long or so and a Raphael cat that's about 3 inches long. We also have one jack Dempsey (3 in) and two Firemouths (2 in and 3 in). I don't plan on adding anything and all of these fish have been together in the tank for about 2 years.
<Mmm, this 75 gallon is more than filled-up psychologically>
I have moved the tank 4 times, with the most recent being 6 days ago.
<A good clue>
Two weeks ago I did a big cleaning on the tank. Taking all decorations out and cleaning them and then vacuuming the gravel with about a 40% water change. At that time I hadn't cleaned the tank in about 8 weeks and it was still clear but had algae and gravel was dirty. Typically when I clean the tank, even if it's been a while, the water is clear again after sitting overnight. This time it stayed somewhat hazy until I moved it last Friday.
<Also telling>
(It was at a relative's house and we finally moved it to ours, pretty much next door.) This would be the 4th move and I have never had any losses or problems from moving the tank before. We saved more than half of the water, kept all rock wet, filters were kept with everything in them and wet and everything went back into the tank as is. We used tap water to fill and then treated with Stress Coat to dechlorinate.
<Mmm, good; but would add the dechloraminator first>
This time everyone transferred quite well, it seemed at first the Leporinus had a bit of a swim bladder issue
but after about 15 min he was swimming normally after putting him back in the tank. The water stayed somewhat hazy still even after about 48 hrs, but all of the fish seemed happy and not stressed. They were swimming and eating normally. The water haziness that I saw was not white but just like the water was still a bit dirty. In an effort to help the cloudiness, I tested the water with some at home strips. It stated that the ammonia was low/normal,
<Has to be 0.0... any detectable is debilitating>
nitrites neg, nitrates very high (I assume from the dirt),
<The lack of cleaning>
ph 6.2,
<Too low>
alkalinity moderate, and the water is very hard. I know you prefer numbers but this is what the strips tell me. I was also concerned because my strips are old and probably expired.
<Am not a fan of test strips.>
I took a water sample to the local fish store and was told that everything checked out 'fine'. I know, not very descriptive or helpful and that is the trend for them. I then thoroughly cleaned one of the filters by rinsing the sponge and all of the substrate and I plan to do the other in a week or two. This has seemed to help the haziness a little.
About 3 days after the move, my albino tiger Oscar was found floating sideways/upside-down at the top of the tank. He was still alive but didn't' seem to be able to right himself. I tried some regular aquarium salt and when I noticed that the others we picking at his fins, I also treated with Melafix.
<Worse than worthless. See my comments/search on WWM re>
I have since separated him to one side of the tank with a divider so that he would no longer be picked on. He's not floating anymore, but after the first day, he just lays sideways at the bottom and doesn't seem interested in food. This has been going on for about 3 days. He was previously the dominant fish in the tank and demonstrated that even after the move until he lost his ability to move correctly. Upon reading your other Q&A, I went back to look at him several times. He's not bloated, eyes are clear and he still looks around the tank, watching the other fish through the divider.
His color seems fairly normal for him considering he was never truly an albino. He's always been more light gray and orange than truly white. If anything he's a little darker than normal but not really noticeable. If I bug him, he will swim upright but kind of clumsily. When he settles back to the bottom, he'll be upright but then just tip sideways and stay there.
Again, he's not interested in food even when I put it in front of him. I typically feed Hikari Gold cichlid pellets and a few flakes of tropical food for the smaller fish. I've also tried another 20% water change today and added a bit of Epsom salt hoping that would help. So far, he's still alive, still sideways, and still not eating. All of the other fish are acting normally and look great. I'm hoping to save him and I'm not sure what to do. I'll also attach a photo I took before I separated him.
Sorry this is so long, Thanks for any assistance you can give.
<My guess is that the moving, large water change, loss of nitrifying microbes from these has conspired to physiologically challenge your fishes... the Pencil and this one Oscar more than the other two. There is no "treatment" per se, but I would try offering other, more tempting foods... Perhaps some garden earthworms. I would also be looking into the water quality of your tap and pre-mixing in some commercial pH raiser or simple baking soda (bicarbonate) to get the pH more near 7... As most everywheres tapwater is not dependable in terms of quality and amount of sanitizer, I strongly encourage you to get a dedicated trash bin, and pre-mix your change-out water... You can use one of your power heads to move it to the tank. Bob Fenner>

Re: Sideways Oscar 6/2/2011
Thank you for your advice.
The albino Oscar is still hanging out sideways at the bottom. He looks around when I turn the lights on but doesn't seem interested in moving. I tried your suggestion of earthworms, even dangling one in front of him, but no luck, he didn't even seem interested. Everyone else still seems to be doing very well, normal appetite and behavior though the other Oscar seems to like to stay near the divider when the sick one is on the other side of it.
I tried my test strips again, to see how much work I needed to do and for comparison. Here are the results. Both strips are Jungle Brand Quick Dip strips. The ammonia strip result is 0ppm. The other multi-strip is as follows: Nitrate 160ppm (still high so I will continue vacuuming and regular water changes and I still need to do a complete cleaning on one of the filters - I didn't think it was safe to do it all at once?),
<You are correct, and do read on WWM re NO3 control>
Nitrite is 0ppm, Total hardness 300 ppm (not sure what to do about this),
<Not likely a problem.>
Total Alkalinity between 80-120ppm (this strip was harder to read), and pH is now at 6.8.
I am not sure what to do other than continue water changes with treated water as recommended. I'd rather that he didn't starve to death but I'm not sure how to entice him to swim around or to eat.
Should I try more Epsom salt or aquarium salt?
<I would not>
Also, I do have carbon in my filters, should those be removed?
(other than that there's just the sponge and BioMax)
Thanks for all of your help, I'll keep you updated.
<Real good. BobF>

Re: Sideways Oscar 6/10/11
Just emailing an update and seeing if you have any more thoughts or ideas.
The Oscar is still lying sideways at the bottom of the tank. He does move positions through the day and night but is still always on his side. If I bother him with a net or algae scrubber magnet on the glass, he'll flail around a bit but always settles back.
<Does it appear this fish "can" actually "get up" and swim properly, or is it impaired physically?>
He's still not eating, I've tried withholding food for days and then feeding with no luck. Foods I've tried include: pellets, flakes (because they float past his face), frozen blood worms, live earthworms, peas, and finally something I never do, a feeder fish just to see if that would get his attention. Just like before he watches and follows the food with his eyes and right now the little feeder goldfish is living happily in the tank with him.
It's been 11 days of him not eating and lying on the bottom. I continue my weekly water changes and am seeing improvement in the Nitrate status of the tank. All of the other fish are doing great (except for being annoyed that they can't get to the feeder fish on the other side of the divider). The only other thing I've noticed is the lower portion of his tail fin and possibly his little ventral fins are a bit more yellow than they were before.
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated and thank you for all of your help.
<Am given to propose that this fish may have damaged itself neurologically... a bolt into something hard... like a brain-stem injury...
Or perhaps an internal nervous complaint rendering the same result. I would still not give up. Bob Fenner>

please help. Oscar hlth., rdg. 5/18/11
hell my name is Ysabella, I have 4 baby Oscars, 2 clown loaches,
<The loaches should be elsewhere; not kept w/ Oscars>
and a common Pleco, one of the Oscars is really sick and has become so over a period of 24hours, he lays on the bottom of the tank and for lack of a better description loses his "balance" and tips over I have done regular water tests all show normal healthy; PH 7.5, high range PH 7.4, nitrite (No2) 0, nitrate(No3)10, ammonia 0.25.
<Trouble here. Ammonia needs to be 0.0; ANY present is debilitating>
none of the other fish have his symptoms. I have also noticed his eyes have gone deep black and he has lost nearly all his colouring (he is a tiger Oscar) I have asked the LFS where I got him from and they said just to use some health guard. I am at a loss he is refusing to eat and he is getting worse. they are in a 120 litre tank
<How large are these fishes? This isn't enough room if the Oscars are more than an inch or so in length>
(I am planning on getting a larger tank soon for them) I feed them blood worms
<See WWM re... I'd skip>
and Hikari gold cichlid pellets. I really do not know what to do any help you could offer would be helpful regards Ysabella
<... That it is only one of the four Oscars points to this being a social issue... but the ammonia present is toxic... Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/oscarsysfaqs.htm
and the linked files above... particularly Feeding, Disease, Behavior. Bob Fenner>
Re: please help 5/19/11
hi thanks for your reply unfortunately he died during the night. I will take your advice to hopefully prevent this happening again, thank you anyway. regards Ysabella
<Thank you for this follow up... Again, I encourage you to read on WWM re this species... In some ways not easily kept. BobF>

Sick Tiger Oscar - Please help ASAP... need data, reading 5/9/11
<Hello Krystle>
We have a 5-6 year old Black Tiger Oscar who lives in a standard 6 foot tank on his own and is approx. 1 foot in length.
Filtration is great and water quality is as perfect as we can get it.
<Need details, not subjective evaluations>
However, when he first became ill a couple of months ago the water was quite acidic and nitrates were very high. His water quality has always been on the acidic side of neutral and it's never seemed to bother him.
<It does inside. See WWM re bolstering pH, alkalinity. Simple to do>
We have done a few water changes and cleaned the filter right out and we are now keeping the water as neutral as possible with the nitrates no higher than 20 to try to give him the maximum chance at healing.
For quite a few weeks, perhaps even 2 months ago, we started to notice he was ignoring his food.
For a while he was still acting normal but ignoring his food and we thought he was probably still eating something because he was still alive after so long, seeming not to eat, but still acting relatively normal.
However, over the last 2 weeks he has started to get a lot worse, quickly.
He has started to look skinny in the belly and developed a lump around his anus (internal not external). The lump is slowly getting larger. The lump almost looks like he has a large ball before the exit to his anus and almost like he can't pass whatever is sitting in there.
I was thinking that he could be constipated and the reason I thought so was because I saw a really thin string of what looked similar to diarrhoea dangling from his anus a few days ago and I thought it all made sense.
<... what do you feed this fish?>
I thought if he IS constipated he would feel ill and eat less and less until he wouldn't eat at all.
He is now sitting on his belly on the bottom of the tank and still seems to be breathing normally, but a little slower / relaxed. However, he doesn't lay upright he leans to one side (the right hand side). Like he's got no energy left but still very much alive. Tonight I've put on the aquarium light and got the camera out and he leaned over and I've seen what looks like a bubble of water (similar to a large blister) hanging from his anus. It is colourless and looks like I could pop it if I tried (not that I'm going to try - poor fish would probably die from pain).
<Don't do this>
I need to know, without using any medications or chemicals, can I put him in a smaller tank and use standard sea salt to cure him without making him more ill? Obviously, this is some kind of growth but I would hope salt would still help. I'm hoping it's not a tumour or something serious. I know I couldn't keep him in the salty water long term. I have saved an electric blue (who was grey and belly up near death after being bashed) with salt water and also a constipated gold fish that was belly up.
However, the Oscar isn't belly up and doesn't have a swollen belly. I really hope it can be a simple fix too. He's like a dog that greets us when we come home and he's always been happy to see us, I don't want him to die if I can help it. I also want to avoid putting him down but if he's going to be in pain much longer, we might have to.
I really hope I've been able to provide enough detail.
<Mmm, nothing really "jumps out" as a probable cause here... This could be "just" a behavioral issue, or nutritional... or some aspect of water quality.>
I really really hope you can help our favourite pet.
Please refer to the 3 photos I've attached.
Kindest Regards,
<Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/oscardisfaq4.htm
and the linked files above. Am hoping by your review and further input we'll be able to figure out a course of action here. Bob Fenner>

Oscar Problem, HLLE 4/26/11
Dear WWM Crew,
We have a black Oscar that we purchased about 4yrs ago at Wal-Mart.
Recently he has spots on him that looks like something is eating away his skin.
<I see this... HLLE...>
He has large portions above his eyes missing and on his sides. I was reading on your website that it could be due to our water.
<Likely high metabolites (accumulated waste products) in the water are a factor here, but also a lack of vitamins, nutrition often plays a role. You proffer no data re water quality or foods/feeding, the environment...>
About 3 months ago we changed the water and we had a 1yr old Oscar and he died because of too much Chlorine.
We also have a Plecostomus that we thought was maybe picking on our Oscar but still again we aren't sure. I have attached a couple pictures. Please help!!!
Thank You!!!
Stephanie Robertson
<Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/FWHLLECauses.htm
and the linked files above re Cures. Bob Fenner>

Red spot on Tiger Oscars mouth 4/5/11
Oscar with Infected Lip
Hi I just purchased a breeding pair of Oscar's and when I got them home I noticed the male had a red lump on the inside of his lip any idea of what this could be ? His behaviour is normal and does not appear to be suffering in any way . Could this be caused be lip locking mating rituals ?
< Cichlids have certain spawning rituals that include pairs lip locking in a test of strength to test the suitability of a mate. Large cichlids have teeth that can inflict damage during this premating behavior. Keep the nitrates down and watch for infection. If it gets worse or starts to fungus than treat with a Furan type antibiotic.-Chuck>

Oscar... hlth. 3/24/11
I have a 6 year old red Oscar and over the last week he has been swimming at the top of the tank with his mouth constantly open, seems like he is having problems breathing.
<Might well be... The collection of gas-impervious material (cooking oil, other aerosols, "dust"...) is very often a cause of oxygen deprivation issues>
When I look down his mouth I can't seem to see his tongue....also I have notice a small lump under his mouth, I'm worried because I haven't seen him eat or relax for the same amount of time. and I'm worried he is suffering..please help.
Kind Regards
<... I would be dipping water from the surface (to remove possible mentioned film), gravel vacuuming and changing out a good portion of the water... Adding aeration/surface circulation. Measuring pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate pronto! And not feeding at all till I discovered and solved the source of trouble here. Have you looked on WWM, used the search tool re "Oscar breathing problems"? Bob Fenner>

Oscar maybe sick 3/23/11
I have one Oscar in a 75 gal tank, no other fish in the tank. It is about 2 years old and about 10 inches long. I just did a water change 5 days ago.
I use a water conditioner and a pH balancer every time I do a water change.
The filter is a 3 tier canister filter. I feed it the Cichlid pellets and bloodworms.
<These last have fallen out of favour... I would discontinue their use>
It has two white spots, one on the tail fin and one on its side.
It has what appears to be flecks of white on its other fins. I just noticed it within the last few hours. There has been more algae growth within the last couple months.
<Indicative of a drop in water quality perhaps, a change in the season (more heat and light) possibly>
There are shallow spots on its head too. I think the spots on its head may be the beginnings of hole in the head
<Might be>
but the white spots are confusing. There are different issues with some of the same symptoms. Please help. I don't want it to get worse. I attached a few pictures I hope it helps. Thank you.
<I would add a (to me) known/complete food... Spectrum (brand) pellets to fight/repair the HLLE, do what you can to improve water quality (you don't list measures/tests for NO3 for instance)... and read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/FWHLLECures.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

re: Oscar maybe sick 3/23/11
Thank you for the advice. I don't have a test kit, that's why there are no readings, but I am getting one asap.
<Ahh, good. I would just use Nitrate as my "eye" into water quality here...
Keep NO3 below 20 ppm. and you should be fine. Means to do so are gone over and over on WWM>
I am going to the pet store now to get the spectrum food and get my water tested. I am also going to do another water change. Will let you know how it goes. Again, thank you.
<Thank you Sarah. BobF>

Re: Oscar maybe sick 3/24/11
I went and had my water tested and it was good.
<Good...? How much Nitrate? More than 20 ppm?>
I did rinse out my filter and its components and added a bubbler. The white spots have disappeared :)
Thank you for your help.
<Thank you for this update. BobF>

Oscar Fish Acting Crazy 3/11/11
<Hello Dominique. You appeared to send a message with 16 MB of images attached, each more than 2 MB in size. Because of the limited e-mail space we have here, and because us crew members don't want to spend all evening downloading giant attachments, we don't accept that size attachments or that number of them. We do specifically state this on the "Ask WWM" page, likely where you found our e-mail address. Please resend your message with a few, smaller images. Programs like iPhoto will easily resize images. Try aiming for about 800 x 600 pixels, or about 500 KB per photo. Thanks, Neale.>
Re: Oscar Fish Acting Crazy [Fixed]... sys. 3/11/11

Hello Crew,
I tried to find an area on the website where I could post my question but I could not seem to locate it. I am e-mailing you guys today because I am concerned about my Oscar fish's behaviour. As well as awkward things happening to my Pleco.
<Okay, fire away!>
To start I have a 65 gallon tank with a 300 watt heater.
<Should be ample for a single Oscar, or a single adult Plec alongside small community fish, but Oscar and Plec together will need more space than this.
Even if water quality stays acceptable, I'd expect a fair amount of silt in the tank, reducing its clarity, and making it altogether less attractive.>
I have two Emperor filters which claim to filter 55 gallons each.
The tank contains 7 fish in total.
2 Oscars (1 is a red Oscar and the other is a albino Oscar)
<Yikes! If these are both males, you won't be able to keep them together in a tank this small.>
2 Zebra Danios (There use to be 3 but one disappeared last month)
<I bet! Zebra Danios are Oscar food. They shouldn't be in the tank at all.
While a single or even three Danios won't poison an Oscar, they are minnows, and that means, like Goldfish, they contain Thiaminase, and over the long term that will cause problems. In any case, there's a risk of introducing disease, and simply by giving predators like Oscars live food, you increase the chances they'll become aggressive. Remove to another aquarium, ASAP.>
2 Fire and Ice (This is the name of the fish given at the pet store)
<Need a photo of these.>
1 Leopard Pleco
<Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps; a very, VERY large Plec with the potential to reach 60 cm/24 inches within three years. Sometimes Plecs damage Oscars by scraping at their flanks. I would not keep Oscars and Plecs together, but if you must, do look out for signs of damage on the flanks, like odd white scratches.>
The fish generally get along together. I have not seen them fighting with each other.
<Yet. Sexual maturity in Oscars occurs around 20 cm/8 inches, from which point males become increasingly intolerant of other males and sometimes females.>
The Oscars swim together regularly and are usually found floating beside each other.
<For now. While Oscars *are* comparatively peaceful by cichlid standards, they are *not* schooling fish. Some specimens coexist indefinitely, especially in large (100+ gallon) tanks. But there's always a risk, and mouth wrestling is a good sign they aren't getting along. Prolonged aggression leads to shredding fins, stress, and worse.>
The weird behaviour I have noticed with my albino Oscar is that whenever I walk into the room, turn the room or tank lights on or even open the top lid of the tank he will begin to swim as fast as possible into any decoration then right into the glass side of the tank and finish off by swimming directly up and hitting the top of the tank.
<Stress, alarm.>
Afterwards he will just float on his side at the top of the tank for a couple minutes and have multiple cuts and scratches on his head. This has been happening for the last couple of weeks and its really beginning to worry me. The red Oscar will sometimes swim away from the albino while he is having his fit and cut himself as well. So I'm left with both Oscars cut sometimes. I am just wondering why he is acting this way. Also my red Oscar is not black. When I purchased him his back was black but after a few weeks the colour has turned pale.
<Indeed. He is trying to blend into the background, but can't.>
I would like you to note that I did not know that I should wet the food pellets before feeding the Oscars since a couple weeks ago. Prior to knowing I would just throw the pellets in, this would have occurred for about 2 months. During which the albino would float on his side occasionally but he seems to be doing better now.
The other thing I would like to ask you is why is my Pleco miss coloured.
He has some dark areas and along his back in a symmetrical shape he has these brown areas and it looks weird.
<Again, altering colours to blend in.>
Sometimes his fins will split as well.
<Could easily be damage by/from the Oscars.>
I have attached some photos of my tank and fish in this email. I am doing a water change tomorrow. The red cup in the tank has saltwater in it to help heal the wounds. If it is possible could you recommend what decorations I should keep in my tank and what I should remove?
Thank You Very Much!, Dom
<Bottom line is that your aquarium is terrifying your fish. Why? Because of the white substrate. Fish HATE white substrates. Think about it -- in the wild many predators attack from above, like Herons. The brighter the substrate, the easier the fish will be seen. So fish prefer to swim over dark substrates. If you stick a white substrate in the tank, you're making your Oscar feel like it's in full view of any passing predator. End result -- constant fear. Replace with plain vanilla gravel or, if you must use something trendy, matt black gravel. Providing some overhead shade, for example floating Indian Fern, will help as well. Problem solved. Cheers, Neale.>

Re: Oscar Fish Acting Crazy 3/15/11
Sorry about the late response, I just wanted to say thank you for your help.
<Nice to hear back. Glad to have helped. Cheers, Neale.>

Hope you can help! (Astronotus; RMF?)<<Nothing more>> 2/25/11
We had two Oscars in a 5ft tank. The Oscars are approximately 7 years old and 10 inches long. We recently lost the albino Oscar who was breathing heavily and would lay on the bottom of the tank and not eat.
<Indeed, I seem to recall something about this from a couple of weeks back.>
Now our tiger Oscar seems to be sick.
<Do, please, check the environment. If you lose two fish within a short period of time, then it's most likely to be something wrong with their world. To recap: Oscars need 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite; nitrate levels less than 20 mg/l; and a water temperature at the middling range, 25 C/77 F being ideal. Water chemistry shouldn't be too hard: 2-15 degrees dH, pH 6-7.5. Water circulation must be robust, with lots of oxygen; check the filter is working, providing a turnover of at least 8 times the volume of the tank per hour, and that there's good circulation of water at all levels, not just at the top. Replace 20-25% of the water regularly, preferably weekly. Poisons can affect cichlids quickly and severely, especially things like paint fumes, tobacco, and bug sprays. Sudden exposure to temperature changes, like a broken heater, can affect them more rapidly than most other fish. Diet should be mixed, mostly good quality pellets alongside smaller portions of white fish fillet, squid, unshelled shrimps or small crayfish, snails, and some green foods like cooked peas.
Feeder fish should never be used. Lifespan for Oscars is around 12 years, so yours aren't especially old, and therefore old age is unlikely to be the issue.>
He is only breathing out of one gill and lays sometimes on his side on the bottom of the tank. He is still eating but we are worried that we are going to lose him. We have treated the water with Melafix as suggested by another aquarium specialist.
<Melafix isn't much of a cure; at best, it helps fish recover from minor wounds, assuming the fish isn't already infected with something. The classic combo treatment for cichlids infected with some unknown bacterium or protozoan is Metronidazole with a Nitrofuran-drug such as Nitrofurazone, but obviously this won't help if the fish is poisoned or environmentally stressed.>
Do you have any ideas of what could be wrong with him?
<Nope, but see above.>
Thank you
<Cheers, Neale.>

Tiger Oscar, hlth., env. 2/12/11
<Hello Ann,>
My Tiger Oscar is losing his scales down one side, and have already lost one Oscar to this, I just cant find any information on what's happening.
<Almost certainly water quality.>
I have a 55 gallon tank and had 4 baby Oscars, (I will be upgrading as soon as my husband upgrades to his 175 gallon tank )
<Not going to work! A pair of Oscars simply will not tolerate any other Oscars in their patch. Plus, the amount of filtration and the frequency of water changes will make this an insane amount of work.>
I have just upgraded to a canister filter (Flu-Val its the 200 gallon one) I have tested the waters and everything coming back as zero ,
<Somehow I don't believe this. Ammonia and nitrite should be 0, yes. But the nitrate should also be very low, less than 20 mg/l, preferably less than 10 mg/l. Unless you're changing more than 20% of the water in your aquarium every day, and feeding the fish hardly anything, I simply can't imagine nitrate levels this low for four Oscars in a 55 gallon aquarium.>
PH is 7.8.
<Meaningless without water chemistry as well. Is the water hard or soft?>
I have been medicating with * Melafix Antibacterial fish remedy* doing the correct dosing and ( I lost one of my tiger Oscars) ,
<This product is of limited to no value once fish get ill.>
now we done a water change last night as it was the end of the treatment.
and now my other Tiger Oscar seems to be coming down with the exact same thing.
<Yes, predictable. The thing is that an aquarium and its filter will hold only a certain number and weight of fish. You can ignore that, but Nature always wins, and eventually the fish literally DIE BACK to the population the tank can hold. In all likelihood, your 55 gallon tank will end up with a single Oscar.>
I fed them last night and he was happy as Larry, but got home this evening to see that he's not doing so great and his scales are coming off.
<Photo is actually a bit too small to see anything. But my assumption here is you have an Oscar that can't swim, looks moth-eaten, has damaged scales and fins, and perhaps shows no interest in food and just hides away as much as it can.>
I feed them once a day and they have a couple of the *Tetra Cichlid jumbo sticks*, and I will treat them with blood worm every couple of days or so.
<Diet is probably not the issue here, but do try varying the diet of your Oscars, and don't forget to starve them once or twice per week. Green foods are also important, and foods with indigestible content, like snails and unshelled shrimps, are extremely useful treats.>
Please help, I don't want to loose my Other Tiger.
Thank You
<Do read here:
Besides improving this fish's living conditions, medicating with Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace simultaneously usually produces the best results with cichlids when they are ill in this sort of way.
Don't forget to remove carbon while medicating, if you use carbon at all.
Cheers, Neale.

Sick Albino Oscar 1/29/11
I have been searching for an answer to my problem with no results. I have 2 Oscars, one tiger and one albino. Both are probably 8 or 9 years old and in a 90 gallon aquarium. They are about 11 inches each and have been very healthy until the other day. I was recently ill and did not do a water change for a few weeks. I checked the pH and it was low.
<Very common if you skip water changes. Between water changes the pH in all aquaria goes down. This is called acidification. If you have enough carbonate hardness in the water, this will be minimal. But in soft water with low carbonate hardness (less than, say, 4-5 degrees KH) you will find pH dropping noticeable between water changes. As pH drops below 7, biological filtration slows down, and below pH 6 it almost stops.>
The ammonia and nitrogen were both 0. So I did a water change and cleaned the tank also new filter cartridges. The problem is that my Albino Oscar is lying on the bottom of the tank on its side. It is not eating and this has been for about 2 days. The other Oscar seems perfectly fine. When I fed them, the Albino swam to the top, but did not eat. Then it did this really odd shake (like a wet dog) and went to the bottom of the tank and is just laying there. It did this a couple of times (that I noticed). I feel awful to think that it's my fault for not doing a water change but that is too late, as I was quite ill, and the water is fine now. The pH is back up to 7.0 and all chemistry is fine.
<Your opinion on water chemistry is helpful, but doesn't tell me much.
What's the carbonate hardness? That's the crucial thing here. A good idea is to place a cup of crushed coral into a media bag and place this into the filter. The crushed coral needs to be cleaned under hot water every month.
What the crushed coral does is slowly dissolve, raising carbonate hardness.
Once installed, check the carbonate hardness every few days for the first couple of weeks. If you have a carbonate hardness of around 5 degrees KH, you're doing fine. The pH should stick to 7.5, ideal for Oscars as well as filter bacteria. If the carbonate hardness is far above 5, say, 10 degrees dH, halve the amount of crushed coral. Repeat testing as before, and see what happens.>
I don't see any obvious external problems and wonder if it is something internal.
<Unlikely; stress is much more probable.>
I have had these fish for a long time and want to do the best thing possible. Also, the other Oscar seems to hover over the albino as if it knows something that I don't.
<It doesn't.>
If it is ill and requires medication, will I need to separate them?
<Only if the other Oscar becomes aggressive towards the weaker one.>
Or is it just depressed?
<Fish don't get depressed. They can certainly be stressed by poor environmental conditions, lack of room, or the wrong social situation. But they don't become depressed.><<RMF disagrees>>
Any help would be appreciated. Thank You, Stacy
<Hope this helps. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Sick Albino Oscar -- 02/02/11

Hi Neale, My poor Oscar died today.
<Too bad. Sorry to hear this, Stacy.>
Now I notice a few white patches on the tiger Oscar (probably Ich??) :(
I have medicated the tank with anti fungal-external parasite drops.
<If the tank is empty, or contains just the other Oscar, there's really no real reason to medication. Finrot and Fungus *don't* jump from one fish to another. They're present in all tanks, all the time. As for Ick, I really don't think that's the issue here. If you think it might be, then by all means use the super-safe heat/salt method for treating -- raise the temperature to 28-30 C/82-86 F, add 2 grammes of aquarium ("tonic") salt per litre of water, and run like that for 14 days. Then turn the heater back down to 25 C/77 F and do your usual water changes to flush away the salt across the next few weeks. That will kill Ick and Velvet. It will also suppress fungal infections to some degree, so it's a good thing to do in situations like this. But my guess is that the other Oscar will be fine.>
Could you please give me a step by step agenda? He is the only fish in the aquarium and I think the albino probably had the same condition. Because of the albino's coloring I may have been mislead as far as a diagnosis goes (I did not see the patches probably due to his white coloring). I have never had a fish with this condition and will look up the information on your website. Any help would surely be appreciated. Thanks, Stacy
<Hope this helps, Neale.>

Re... remaining Oscar (not Albino) hlth. 2/4/11
Hi Neale,
OK, Now I am a bit confused. I have been paying so much attention to the Albino (now dead) Oscar that I am really taking a good look at the other.
I have sent a couple of pictures: one with the white stuff
<Yes, I see; could be bacterial, but I think also incipient Hole-in-the-Head.>
and one with the eyes, Do you think he has Pop Eye?
<On his right-hand side, seemingly yes.>
Sheesh, I feel like a fish killer (lol). I have never had problems with these fish and have had them for 8 or 9 years (maybe longer).
<Many of the cichlid problems develop with time, partly because the fish are bigger so the problems in the tank become acute, and partly because we become complacent about water changes. At 8 years old your Oscar is in middle age -- 12-15 years would be somewhat old, so age itself isn't the issue.>
So..... I am not experienced with fish diseases. But I must say I have learned quite a bit in the past few days. As for the white stuff....
fungus?? Ich?? abrasions?? Need help.
<If this was me, I'd treat the Pop-eye with Epsom salt (at a dose of up to 3 teaspoons per 5 gallons) in the water, and I'd also treat for Hole-in-the-Head using a combination of Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace.
These should work fine together; the Epsom salt reduces swelling, and the Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace is a good combination for cichlid ailments of all types.
Also do review diet. Oscars, like virtually all cichlids, benefit from some greens in their diet, with cooked/canned peas or spinach being the most readily taken. As ever, avoid "feeder fish", and provide good foods, whether live (like earthworms) or wet-frozen (like tilapia fillet).
Minimise Thiaminase-rich foods like prawns, shrimps and mussels.>
So far the only thing I have done is add the Ich med to the water and I did another 10% - 15% water change today. I took out the carbon but should I still use the filter pouches minus the carbon? So now I am at the point of deciding what treatment is preferred and necessary. Maybe a dual treatment.... I don't know and hope you will. Thank you so much for your multiple quick responses!! Stacy the Nudge
<Glad to help. Do read the articles linked above. You'll see situations like this with Oscars are far from rare. Cheers, Neale.>

Oscar has nasty cuts
Oscar With Injuries 1/11/11

Hi guys and girls, Your site is by far the best on the web for Oscar care.
< Thank you for your kind words.>
You helped me a few months ago and I'm hoping you can do so again. I have an Oscar about 6 months old and he's around 5'' big now. He has a 50 gallon tank all to himself with only two items in it... an empty terra cotta pot and a log (purchased from the pet store). When he was a tiny baby, I went away on vacation for 10 days and used an automatic feeder. I learned very quickly upon returning that I had inadvertently trained my Oscar that food came from that big black object at the top of his tank. I stopped the auto feeder once I got back but he still swam to the same spot at the same time every single day waiting for that food to drop. I noticed that once the food no longer dropped, he appeared to become impatient and started "biting" the water right near the auto feeder. I figured this meant he was hungry, so I'd get up and feed him when he did this. Of course, now I have inadvertently trained him that jumping/biting at the water until it makes a loud sound results in him getting fed. I've created a monster. At first I found it a little endearing but also felt it might be stressful to him so I started feeding him in the mornings to prevent this behavior at his normal 9pm feeding time. The feedings in the morning did NOT stop him from attacking the surface of the water at 9PM. Taking care not to over feed him, I'd split his feedings between the morning and the evening feeding times. I saw no problems with this until tonight. I heard him jump up at the surface of the tank and make the "biting" the surface sound but I was on my way out and didn't give him any food. When I came home an hour later, his body was covered in injuries... particularly his head. He literally has chunks taken out of his forehead and a flap of skin dangling off his face between his eyes. :( I almost cried when I saw it. What the heck happened to him? I'm not sure if he jumped at the surface and injured himself on the small opening between the auto-feeder and the hood cover or if he ran into something in the tank (the wood piece, the filter "arm" that reaches down into the tank). It's been a few hours since I first noticed the injuries and I'm noticing that they are blackening now around the edges. I think I remembered reading on here somewhere that this meant they are healing. I also just noticed that one of his eyes seems to be getting cloudy all of a sudden (it was perfectly fine this morning). I'm not sure if there is something I should do for him. Should I add Melafix to help him heal faster?
< No, see comments below.>
On a side note, he appears to have developed hole in the head recently with two small holes near his gills that have been there now for a few weeks.
I lost an Oscar to this disease due to ignorance and not knowing anything about the disease until it was too late. I smartened up and bought the 50 gallon tank, I have a hang on back filter that has a 75 gallon capacity and am also purchasing a canister filter next week. I cycled the tank for a month before adding the Oscar and he has been happy and healthy in there for 6 months... until now. Nitrites are at 0, ammonia 0, nitrates between 20-40 right now but that's because he is due for his water change tomorrow.. it is typically at 20ppm.
I am not sure if I should administer an antiparasitic treatment or not.
With my last Oscar I feel like the treatment ultimately lead to his death.. it was too stressful for him. My new Oscar is a lot bigger though and probably stronger. I should also mention he is fed a varied diet of pellets, brine shrimp, blood worms and veggies (I use the "Lunch Box" frozen cubes variety pack). I am so scared to treat him with meds because I couldn't bear to lose another one but at the same time the holes aren't healing and I'm not sure what else I can do to provide a healthy environment for him. I do water changes, 25% once a month but I think I need to increase this to twice a month. Should I do it more frequently, or do bigger changes to see if this helps heal the holes before I treat with an anti-parasitic?
< Cleaner water is a big plus.>
A friend of mine had an Oscar with HITH and he treated it with the meds and put it in a bigger tank and it completely healed. I'm torn.
Sorry for the lengthy message, but it appears that I have one immediate problem and one ongoing problem to contend with here. My Oscar is still eating very well right now and he is sulking a bit in the last hour or so at the bottom. This isn't unusual for him when there is any change to his environment whatsoever. He is terrified of the tank lights so I keep them off and he was also terrified of a new house plant that I placed next to his tank. He hid on the other side for two days until I figured out what his problem was. To test it I moved the plant to the other side and he immediately swam to the opposite side and sulked there. I've moved the plant to the kitchen :) Thanks in advance for any and all help. Also, any recommendations on a good canister filter for a 50 gallon tank would be greatly appreciated. Katie < Keep the nitrates under 20 ppm with water changes. Your fish is getting bigger and puts out more waste. You need to do bigger water changes or more of them. Keeping the water clean is a big step in preventing infection. If you do not want to medicate then keep the nitrates under 10 ppm and add a teaspoon of aquarium salt per 5 gallons of water. Clean the filters too. If you see some cottony growth or red areas then you need to medicate with Nitrofuranace (Furan-2). Add some floating plastic plants to delineate the top of the water. This will give your Oscar a marker for the water surface so he might stay below the water and not injure himself again. The Melaflex is a like a general tonic or inhibiter, but I have had better luck using antibiotics.-Chuck>

Suicidal Oscar 12/6/10
My Oscar jumped out of the back of my tank the other day.
<As should be obvious, Oscars cannot be kept in tanks without secure covers. This holds true for practically all cichlids.>
I got him and was able to put in back in and he lived, its been about 3 days now. After I put him back in the tank I noticed a lot of his scales were missing, I figured at was too big a deal because the scales will grow back.
<Indeed, they will grow back, all else being favourable.>
But I was away this weekend and now I am back home and I noticed that his fins are starting to "fall" off, his color is also very drained, he doesn't seem to want to eat.
<Understandable. Don't feed until he actively begs for food, and in the meantime, medicate as you would for Finrot and Fungus. You could try something relatively mild like Melafix, though I'd be tempted to go for something a bit more heavy duty, such as Seachem PolyGuard or eSHa 2000.>
I know this can all come from stress from being out of the water for as long as he was, but I was looking to see how is scales were coming back in and it looks as if there is something growing on him, it's transparent and looks like it's slimy. I want to clean my tank to see if that would help but I am afraid of putting anymore stress on my fish.
<Obviously good water quality -- i.e., zero ammonia/nitrite, and below 20 mg/l nitrate -- are essential. But cleaning the tank as such won't do much either way, so stick with your usual, regular maintenance regime. Stir gravel with each water change, remove 25% of the water per week, rinse filter media every 6-8 weeks, etc.>
There are other fish in the tank as well and I don't want them to get sick as well. Please help me make my fish better!
<One last thing, remember that Oscars need a varied diet. The quickest way to make an Oscar sick is to give it feeder fish; give even one live fish as food, and who knows what parasites and bacteria you've inoculated your Oscar with! Likewise, avoid Thiaminase-rich foods such as prawns and mussels. Instead, provide good quality cichlid pellets (such as Hikari Gold) as the staple, and offer weekly supplements of cooked/canned peas, strips of tilapia fillet, earthworms and crickets. The more variety, the better, as Oscars are famous for going "on strike" if they get too much of the same thing, refusing to eat anything other than the favourite food.
Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Suicidal Oscar
Oscar With Internal Infection 12/9/10

Thanks for the help! I was planning on starting treatment today but when I woke up this morning I noticed my fish was swimming belly up! I immediately thought the worse but when I went over to check I noticed he was still breathing and as soon as I got close he began to swim around! I started the treatment for
Finrot but not I'm wondering what I can do so he isn't upside down! It seems like he wants to flip the right way and even did for a couple hours but now he's back on his back. Is there anything I can do?
< Do a 50% water change, clean the filter, and vacuum the gravel. This should remove most of the organics from the water. If your fish is still eating then feed a medicated food with Metronidazole in it. If you fish is
not eating then treat the tank with a combination of Furan-2 and Metronidazole. If your fish starts to eat then feed the medicated fish food. This condition may be caused by stress or s poor diet.-Chuck>

Oscar cichlid diagnosis
Oscar with Bacterial Infection
Hi just wanted to see if you could help me out. I have studied your site and really appreciate all the information you provide. I have two Oscars, have had them about 6-8 months now. They live in a 100 gallon tank, with 2 emperor 400 filters. They live with one Pleco, and one Synodontis catfish. I noticed about 2 weeks ago, that one of my Oscars had a little hole forming on his head, freaked me out, went and researched hole in head disease, and took action. I checked my water parameters, and my pH 7.8 -- 8.0, Ammonia = 0, Nitrate = 0, Nitrate was 40 ppm. So I immediately started increasing my water changes from once a week, to every 2nd or 3rd day. I had also recently switched to some cichlid food that I bought on eBay, witch I immediately stopped feeding them, and went back to Hikari Cichlid Gold, frozen blood worms and some Krill. After every water change, I have started adding aquarium salt, and did dose them with one dose of Metronidazole, and removed my carbon. The Oscars look so much better, they are back to greeting me again, very active, eating great etc. The hole in his head grew a little larger, but now looks to be healing great. I thought I had it all under control, but now I notice these discolorations on one of my Oscars body. I really don't have any idea what it is, maybe a fungal infection? He is still eating, my Nitrates are now between 10 -- 20 ppm, and I am still doing water changes every 3 days. Should I be concerned about this, and if so what should I do? I have attached a few photos outlining areas where I am concerned. Thanks so much for having this website, the information is so valuable. Mike
< When the nitrates are high the bacteria become very active while the fish's immunity starts to become less effective. I think you have a bacterial infection that could be treated in a hospital tank with either a Furanace or Erythromycin type of antibiotics. Keep the nitrates under 20 ppm. Check your tap water too. You may have high nitrates in your tap water and will never get under the tap water nitrate levels while using that water.-Chuck>
Oscar Cichlids

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