Oscars With Hole-In-The-Head 12/30/2005
Greetings Bob,
< Chuck this time.>
We have 2 Red Tiger Oscars that both developed the HLLE. We keep a good tank (
check to make sure that all the levels are good) for them. However, is there
something you can recommend that we do to help out our fish? We would like to
have them around for a while.
Thanks, Robert and JoAnna
< This is usually caused by stress. Check the water chemistry. If that is OK
then try a more nutritious food or change the diet to a better grade of food.
Maybe add some live food too. Metronidazole will work to treat it but the causes
of the stress must be addressed and corrected for a long term solution.-Chuck>
Oscars With Hole-In-The-Head 1/1/06
Thanks Chuck for your reply. We have them in a 72 gallon tank with 1
canister filter and one Bio wheel filter. We change the water weekly (25%
change). We also have an old pleco in the tank as well. He just hangs out on
the back of the tank .We are currently feeding them Tetra Cichlid sticks and
the pellets and occasionally krill. We quit feeding them live food when one
of the people in the Tropical Fish hobbyist said that live fish is not good.
What would you consider a good quality food? Should we be adding broccoli to
the tank also? We would like to keep Felix and Oscar (yes they do act like
the odd couple too!) around for a long time. Your help is greatly
appreciated!!!!Thanks, Robert & JoAnna
< Clean the filter and vacuum the gravel on alternate weeks. I know canister
filters are a pain to service but the should be cleaned at least once every two
weeks. On the weeks that you do not clean the filters you should vacuum the
gravel. There is quite a bit of waste that accumulates there that needs to be
removed. This should keep you water quality at its best. Forget the broccoli. I
would try some Spectrum pellets and Spirulina flakes. These have lots of
vitamins and minerals and should help with a deficiencies in their diet.-Chuck
Oscars Gone Wild 12/28/05
I have two Tiger Oscars. Both are about 3 inches long and in a 30 gal
aquarium. I have two other fish and some snails in the tank with them.
They have been swimming frantically across the tank slamming into the
sides and everything else in the tank. When they are not doing that
they float almost as if they are dead. They have been doing this for
two - three days. I called the local fish store and they said change
50% of my water, add salt and double the dechlorinated drops which I
did. The Oscars started swimming some but are still floating on their
sides on the top and also swimming into the sides of the tank. They
also don't seem to be eating. This all started after I was having
problems with my filter, I changed the filter to a new one and done two
water changes a couple of days apart. The local fish store told me I
was over feeding my Oscars so I cut down on how much I was feeding
them. That is when they started the hitting the tank and swimming as if
dead. Any help would be appreciated.
< Check the ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. When replacing a filter with a new
one you may have remove all the good bacteria needed to break down the toxic
fish waste. So you may be experiencing higher waste levels like in a new tank.
Add carbon to the filter to remove any unwanted organics in the water. Remove
any uneaten food after 2 minutes.-Chuck>
Oscar with Fin Rot 12/24/05
I noticed another thing on my Oscar. At the end of its tail its white and
the edges look like they're torn. Is it Bacterial Fin Rot? What should I do?
< Could be fin rot. Do a 30% water change, vacuum the gravel and change the
filter. If it looks like it is getting worse then treat with
Nitrofuranace.-Chuck>
Oscar with Hole-In-The-Head 12/16/05
Hi Chuck, I have still been trying to cure my Oscar, but to no avail. I put
him in a
bare 30 gallon and treated just as you described for quite some time but he
did not seem to be recovering at all...getting worse in fact. He didn't
like the medication at all, but I did it 3 days on one day off for two
weeks. After that I just kept the water pristine and kept the lights out
for the whole day. I did turn the lights on, wait 30 minutes, and try to
feed him. He seemed hungry.....he gets all excited and swims back and forth
waiting for the food, but when the he gets the food in his mouth he just
opens it back up and the food comes out. I have tried med. pellets, small
pellets (Hikari Gold), flakes, brine shrimp, frozen brine.....pretty much
everything, same result. He just spits the food back out over and over.
The one visible change in him after the treatment was the dimples in his
head, which cover a decent area from behind his left eye all the way back
near his fin, turned black. Well, I should say rather that they are now
outlined in black, but very prominently. At first I thought it was a good
thing, like it was healing, but the dimples seemed to be worsening still
and he still can't eat. It's been several months now.
I am to the point where I am considering euthanasia, but would like to get
your feedback first. I have really done so much and tried very hard to cure
him. I don't like to think about him being so uncomfortable, and if he is
just going to keep getting worse the I will have to do it sometime anyway.
He isn't eating....what do you think? Do you know anything about the
blackening around the dimples/holes? Thanks, Tim
< The black is a good sign that things may be healing up, at least around the
edges. Try to get him to eat live black worms. He should. Give him a couple of
feedings over a couple of days. One the third day place some worms in a small
plastic cup with some water. Add a tablet of Metronidazole. It should kill the
worms instantly. The worms now have the medication in them. Now quickly feed
them to your Oscar. Getting the medication inside the fish should really help.
Continue to do this until the spots turn black.-Chuck>
Oscar Can't Swim - 12/11/2005
I have a 55 gallon tank and last night I noticed one of my Oscars was having
trouble submerging himself and tonight I noticed that he is trying to dive but
he floats right back up I think he is dying can you help.
< Your Oscar has an internal bacterial infection or a blockage. The bacteria in
the gut are multiplying and creating a gas that is building up inside and
affecting you Oscar's buoyancy. Do a 50% water change, clean the filter and
vacuum the gravel. Treat with Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace. Follow the
directions on the packages. When he starts to eat again he is getting better.
The key to a complete cure is early treatment.-Chuck>
Oscar's Dying 12/9/05
Hello,
<Hi, Catherine here.>
My husband and I recently inherited an Oscar about 12 inches from his mother. My
husband in order to transport the fish from her house had to empty the large
fish tank (not sure how big but a really good size) and he put the fish in a
smaller tank with the water it was residing in the big tank.
<Sounds like a good start. I hope you took the big tank with you and put him
back at home with the water which you brought in plastic jugs.>
Here is where the problem came, when we got the tank home he cleaned it spotless
along with the gravel which I questioned but I'm no fish expert.
<Why?>
Then he filled it with tap water and let it sit for a day with the pump hooked
up without adding the fish (he did not de-chlorinate the water:-<).
<Depends on where you live. Well water has no chlorine. Some cities add chlorine
which will evaporate over a few days (dechlorinator works). Other cities add
chloramine (you MUST add dechlorinator).>
We added the fish last night and I believe the fish is in shock right now. He
was hanging near the bottom of the tank sometimes swimming to the top where he
was when I left the house this morning. He was swimming around but favoring is
side which I think was caused by him trying to get oxygen from the surface.
<All sounds like shock/stress...>
He developed a cloudy film on his eyes.
<Bacterial infection due to stress. I wouldn't treat it because treatment is
likely to destroy whatever good bacteria you have left and delay cycling. You
just have to make his environment better.>
I also noticed that his color (normally dark) has some orange areas in it now.
<Stress....>
This is a beautiful fish and I would really like to save it but I'm not fish
savvy so is there anyway I can help him out of this shock? Please help:-<
<Okay, step one, remove husband from tank. Possibly from house. When your
husband cleaned the tank, did he use soap? If he did, the stuff sticks to glass
and is really deadly on fish. If it has soap, you need to do lots of water
changes and possibly get a new tank. Regardless, buy some dechlorinator and add
it (package directions work well). Speaking of tanks, this fish needs a tank
that is 70-100 gallons.
He may have been fine in a smaller one before, but now he's in shock and
getting over it is not going to be terribly easy. He may have also been pH
shocked. If he was, there isn't a lot you can do about it now, except to try to
keep his pH as constant as possible (by doing many smaller water changes). You
can also buy a test kit for pH. Anything between 6.0 and 8.0 is great. If your
pH is outside those ranges, let me know and we'll discuss how to slowly change
it. Constant and "wrong" is better than "right" but varying. His water should be
heated to about 80F and he should have a filter that turns over all the water in
the tank about 5x per hour.
Your husband has also killed all the beneficial bacteria in the tank. This means
the tank is going to have to cycle. Basically fish poop. Poop contains toxic
ammonia. Bacteria can convert ammonia into nitrite. Nitrite is toxic. Other
bacteria convert nitrite into relatively safe nitrate. Good news is the bacteria
are in the air and will colonize the tank. Bad news is this takes about 6 weeks.
You need to get a test kit for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. Their values should
be at 0, 0, and less than 20. For the next few months, you will need to do
checks daily and anytime ANY of the readings are over 0.5, 1, and 20, do a 30%
water change. This is going to be a lot of work. You can try to add BioSpira
from Marineland (refrigerated) or Cycle (variable results). These products have
bacteria in them and will help kick start your cycle. That may mean a LOT less
water changes and a less stressed fish more quickly.>
Natalie
<Good luck with him and let us know how it goes.
www.liveaquaria.com has good information. I suggest not feeding "feeder
goldfish" because they can carry disease Read wetwebmedia and the chat forum for
more ideas and information. Catherine>
Oscar's Dying..? Follow-up
12/9/05
Catherine,
Thanks so much for the reply. I will be taking over caring for the fish
now. I will let you know how it goes; hopefully he is still alive when I
get home.
<Glad you got the reply. I forgot to mention two specific WWM
(wetwebmedia) links. They are:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwset-up.htm. I'm on the
west coast and have to give lab meeting tomorrow. I'll be up for a while
and looking for procrastination tools. Let me know how he's doing.
Catherine>
Re: I think my fish (Oscar) is dying 12/13/05
Hi Catherine,
Good news my fish is doing great.
<That's wonderful! I was worried about him!>
When I got home last Thursday he was still in shock but I followed all
your directions (de-chlorinator and Cycle) and surprisingly when I
tested the water the only thing out of range was the ammonia level which
was at 1.0. I did the 30% water change
and it was at 1 for a while but now it is down to .5. He is swimming
around and is very lively now. He is eating well and everything. Thanks
so much for the help. I will send along a picture of him when I get a
chance.
<Keep an eye on the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels. They may still
spike, but with the Cycle and a few water changes, hopefully they'll
stabilize soon.>
Natalie
<Catherine>
Re: I think my fish (Oscar) is dying 12/30/2005
Hi Catherine,
I have been doing water checks and the water has been pretty much stable but
yesterday I did a check and the ammonia and nitrite levels were so high now 4
and 5. I did a percent water change and treated the water with cycle. Is there a
reason why these levels would peak so rapidly? Should I do a larger water change
(I don't really want to put him into anymore shock)? Please help?
Natalie
<Sorry for the extremely delayed response. I've been away from email due to the
holidays. You're just seeing the ammonia and nitrite spikes at the beginning of
the cycle. Keep doing water changes to keep the numbers under control. Also,
reduce feeding a bit. 30-50% water changes are fine to do on a daily basis, if
you are keeping temperature constant.
Good luck,
Catherine>
Oscar Still Has Hole In The Head 11/3/05
Hi all, I have read through the forums and have done what is recommended
(mostly Chuck's recommendations).
<<Chuck knows his cichlid stuff!>>
I have a large (12-14 inch) red Oscar in a 75 gallon tank by himself. I
had him with a Tiger Oscar until they outgrew the
tank and he became aggressive with the Tiger. I plan on getting him in a
125+ but I have to move to a new place first. He developed pitting on
the left side of his head, fairly high up. At first I thought he just
lost a scale from bumping into the top of the tank (he gets very excited
when I feed him), but it has progressed.
I use RO water and treat it lightly with Cichlid Essentials. I feed him
Hikari pellets. I do have frozen brine cubes which I am going to start
supplementing in to his diet. I normally feed him a small amount in the
morning and at night. I bought a bottle of the Hole-In-The-Head Guard
with Metronidazole and have followed the directions on the bottle. They
say to use it every other day for three treatments with 25% water
changes between treatments. I have followed the directions exactly. It
has been a week since the last treatment and I see no improvement.
How long should I wait before I treat him again?
Is there anything else I can do?
My nitrates are low, ammonia and nitrites 0. My water temp is 80ish.
This is a large beautiful fish and I really don't want to lose him.
Thanks for any help you can provide. Tim
< Go to Cichlid-Forum.com and
check out the 22 page article on the causes and treatment of hole in the
head disease. Metronidazole reacts to everything, light, heat, organics
etc... In a best case scenario you treat the fish in a bare tank. Treat
with Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace every 8 hours with a 33% water
change in between treatments for three days. Lots of work and lots of
money too. After reading this article you will best be able to determine
the cause and be able to treat appropriately.-Chuck>
Hole In The
Head Help For Cichlids Follow-up 11/4/05
Thanks so much for the help. I really appreciate it. I did read the article
and will follow suit. It is really fantastic to have an actual
scientific paper on the subject. One thing that I did wonder about after
reading the article was that the author really stressed the existence of
what he called the "jelly poo".
< Sometimes in advanced cases there will be a white jelly like material
in the pores themselves.>
My fish doesn't have that at all. In fact, he is eating very very well,
no loss of appetite at all. He is not displaying any abnormal behavior
at all, he just has the dimpled head. Hopefully that means that it is
early in the process and won't be too hard on him to cure it. You
suggested a bare tank, which makes sense to me. Would you suggest that I
put him in a smaller tank while I treat him? If so, what size?
< A smaller tank means less water for water changes and less medication
required which translates to less money. Use a reasonable tank size.>
I have an extra 10 gallon tank, but I am afraid that the small size
would stress him out. Thanks for your help Chuck. Tim
< I am glad you found the article helpful. It was just too much info to
transfer in this forum.-Chuck>
Hospital Tank For A Large Oscar 11/4/05
Thanks again Chuck, I appreciate it. Would a 20 gallon be reasonable as a
hospital tank or is that still too small?
< It would work but I would put it in an out of the way place to keep him calm
and relaxed during treatment. Good luck.-Chuck>
Fasting Oscar, Unstable Temp. 10/30/05
I've had my tiger Oscar for about 6 months now. Since they only allow a
maximum of a 10 gallon tank in my college dorm, I left him with my parents and
gave them instructions on feeding him while I am away.
<Okay.>
Every time I have gone home (I go home every 2 weeks or so) He has been doing
well, but I got an email from my father today saying that he hasn't eaten in 3
days and has been laying on his side at the bottom of the tank behind the tank
ornament (which resembles the roots of a tree, and he used to hide in there when
I first got him). They told me that they have been doing partial water
changes, but it hasn't affected his behavior.
<Do they know the water parameters, his behavior sounds environmentally
induced...as in something is wrong, i.e. not enough aeration or to many
nutrients.>
I don't know what the water temp is, but I think that it may have gone down
since it is getting colder out, and my mother mentioned it being cold in the
house even though they turned on the heat. Could the change in temperature be
affecting his appetite or make him sick?
<Improper temperatures can cause lethargic reactions and are fatal long-term.>
I know it will be hard to give advice based on the limited information I have,
but I'd appreciate any suggestions.
<If you do no have a heater I suggest getting one to stabilize the temp, as for
the eating offer many varieties of food to entice him. Perhaps even some frozen
squid or blood worms.>
Thanks.
<Welcome, Adam J.>
Albino Oscar Getting Dark Patches - 10/24/05
I have an albino tiger Oscar that is 13 inches long and recently started
getting dark gray splotches on her. She eats normally and is very active , do I
have a problem cropping up or is it just pigmentation changes? She is in
her own 55 gallon tan with two AquaClear 70 filters on the system and things
look good but a fish that looks dirty.
< Could be caused by food or old scars. Change the diet and see if they go away.
Does not sound like a disease.-Chuck>
Re: Hole in the Head on Oscar 10/20/05
Hi Chuck: My Oscar had or still has hole in the head. It just seems to stay
on his gill covers and one cheek. I got the med you said to get and things
started to look good. But after the Metronidazole and Furanace the pits are
getting worse. And on one side the wound looks red. in some spots. he still
eats. I give him freshwater Zoë he eats every thing but feeders. What can I do
to help him get better? His diet is good I think worms ,crickets, beef heart,
moths, pellets, some algae wafers, krill, fish from the super market.
<The disease can be controlled with the medications and Nitrofuranace I
recommended, but the cause needs to be addressed to get a complete cure. Start
by not feeding beef heart and checking the nitrates. They should be under 25
ppm. The lower the better. Increase the water changes to 50% per week with aged
treated water. This condition may take awhile to turn around so stay at
it.-Chuck>
Sick Oscar/pictures attached... another feeder disaster 10/18/05
I saw your web page, but could not email you directly from there.
<Okay>
My husband and I just got an Oscar and an African Sichlet
<Cichlid>
from a friend about 5 days ago. They are about 6 years old. The Oscar
was fine for the first day, but now he has a round red growth coming
from his vent.
<Yes, a prolapsed colon>
He will not eat pellets or feeder fish. At first he started swimming
head down at the bottom of the tank, but for the past 2 days he has just
been floating on his side at the top of the tank. At first we thought
maybe he was just in shock. I feel terrible for him. We have never had
fish before so I have been doing some research on the Internet. I know
the fish has hole in the head disease as well. But I can not figure out
what this "growth" is. What could it be? Is there anything I can
do? Do I need to remove the other fish? I have attached pictures if
you would like to look at them.
Thanks for your help.
<Likely there is some real trouble from "the feeders"... Please read
here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/goldfshfd.htm and the linked file above...
You might be able to save this fish treating it with Metronidazole,
salt... these are covered on WWM. Bob Fenner> |
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Oscar gill 10/16/05
Hey crew,
<Stone>
I have a Tiger Oscar- 7"- that I believe may have gotten into a fight. This is
because one of his/her gills looks out of place. I don't know how to help my
Oscar... What should I do?
<Mmm, keep water quality optimized, stable, provide good nutrition... in short,
just good upkeep... not much can be done with such injuries... they either heal
on their own or leave the fish with a deformity. Bob Fenner>
Oscars and a Lack of Input - 10/14/2005
My Oscars started getting a whitish build up on their bodies and then
developed eye cloud. I've never dealt with this before.
<Clouded eyes are usually related to poor environmental conditions.... Be
testing your water quality, changing water....>
4 of my favorites have died. I've been treating them by increasing the aquatic
salt level to 150%,
<150% of....?>
using MelaFix for 6 days,
<Unlikely to be of help - and certainly not of help if the root cause is
environmental.>
and gave them their 2nd dose of Binox.
<Learn what you are treating before you treat.... Throwing medications at
systems without knowing what they are or what you are medicating for is quite
dangerous. Binox is sodium chloride (salt) and Nitrofurazone (an antibiotic). Do
you have reason to believe there is a bacterial infection that can be treated by
this? If not, why are you medicating? Have you tested your water?>
My two large Oscars' eyes don't seem to be getting any better, but they're
swimming around more and color has gotten better. However, no appetite. Do you
have any suggestions?
<Yes, test your water for pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate.... Maintain ammonia and
nitrite at ZERO, nitrate less than 20ppm, with water changes.... Look for the
root cause of the problem (likely water quality) and begin rectifying it.>
I don't want to lose them or have them go blind. Thank-you
<All the best, -Sabrina>
Oscars Don't Like Hair 9/28/05
Hi guys I hope you are all well and thank you for all the great information
you post. I have a problem with hair, human hair getting into my tanks. I have a
800 gallon and a 200 gallon both freshwater. I had 4 now I have 3 Oscars in the
800 and 1 Oscar in the 200. On the 800 I have 2 Magnum 350's and 2 glass corner
skimmers with filtering around the intake tube these run down to a 60 gallon
sump filter and then the clean water is pumped back to the tank. The Oscar that
had died was because he swallowed a human hair. I had noticed it coming out his
mouth and the other end coming out of his rear end. I called my vet and she came
to the house and tried to pull the hair out but could not "Big Red" the Oscar
died that night. I have since then shaved my head. I have since put filters on
the fans in the hood and I still get hair in the tank. It really worries me, can
you suggest anything that I can do other than making the room like a hospital
room.
<Cover the tanks and the sump with saran wrap type plastic so that there are no
openings for hair to get into the tank. Get a good sized air pump with an
airstone. Place the airstone in the tank with the pump underneath the tank. The
airstone will provide a "positive " air pressure and force air out of the tank.
Hair cannot get into the pump and so cannot get to your Oscars.-Chuck>
Oscar Needs Medication 9/22/05
My Oscar has hole-in-the-head. I went to my local fish store to try and get
Nitrofuranace and they said that company is no longer in business. I can't get
that med. for him. Now what?
<Go to DrsFosterSmith.com. You can order 100 tablets of Furanace (#PC-210282)
for $12.99 plus shipping. They carry the Metronidazole too, (#PC-18879). You get
100 tablets for $19.99 plus shipping.-Chuck>
Oscar Headstander 9/21/05
I have a single Oscar (about 8-10 inches) in a 55 gallon tank. He also has
an infestation (in the tank, not him) of Ostracods. They are harmless, but they
keep coming, and I can't seem to get rid of them. At any rate, normally, a
water change keeps them under control. Lately, though, my Oscar has been
lethargic. He doesn't seem interested in food, he keeps running himself along
the gravel and the other tank mixtures, but has no external spots, or anything
that would suggest he is unhealthy. I typically get him a few feeder fish
monthly, and he has a lot of fun catching them, but this time around he's all
but ignored them. This morning, I found him tail-up, and he seemed asleep - it
took a lot to see that he was actually alive. I'm just not at all sure why my
normal Oscar who begs for food and patrols the tank regularly is acting like he
is dying. Do you have any suggestions?
< Do a 50% water change, vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Water tamp
should be around 82 F and increase the aeration. Add a tablespoon of rock salt
per 5 gallons of water. See if he responds or at least wakes up. It could be
anything from nitrate poisoning to knocking himself out on the tank lid. Watch
him closely for signs of stress that can help pin point an exact cause.-Chuck>
Oscar Eye Problems 9/19.5/05
I would appreciate it if you could help me. My parents have an adult Oscar
that is about 8 inches long. So far, he has been healthy but has just recently
developed a white film over both eyes. Is this ick? If so how do we treat it, if
not then what is it and how do we treat it? Please help!
<It's not Ich, which we see as tiny salt-like spots on the fins and body. Most,
if not all, eye problems are directly linked to water quality. Start with
several large water changes using a gravel vac to remove as much organic matter
as possible. If the eyes start to swell add one tablespoon of Epsom salt for
each 5 gallons of water. If you do not see improvement in a week or two you may
need to treat with Furan-2. Please do not treat until you get his conditions
pristine and give him a little time to heal. Don>
Oscar With Eye Problems 9/21/05
Hello, My Oscar is still sick. The first eye that was hurt seems to be
healing, but there is some blood collecting in the eye, now I have
noticed the other one (right eye) has a large white collection
forming. It is not forming on the outside, but rather under the skin of
the eye, and it is pushing the eye out and forward. I have cleaned the
tank and added some Epsom salt like the website says, but I am still
unclear as to how long I am supposed to continue this treatment and
whether there should be some other medicine accompanying it. Why is it
switching from one eye to the other? I read on the site that if the
problem is only in one eye, then it is probably and injury of some sort,
but now that it is switching, does it sound like Popeye? Will I be able
to save him with just water changes and salt? Please help me, I do not
want to lose this fish, he has been through and come through a
lot. HELP! Still Desperate In Texas
< The anaerobic bacteria that is causing the problem can be treated with
a combination of Nitrofuranace and Metronidazole. Keeping the tank and
the water clean is essential to get the medication to work. This will
probably harm the good bacteria that breaks down the ammonia so check
the ammonia often and watch for ammonia spikes.-Chuck>
Oscar problem
9/17/05
I'd like to first start off by saying how much help your website has
been to me as well as all of my aquarist friends.
<I'm glad you find it useful; thank you for these kind words.>
Am having a problem with one of my Oscars. I have a pair that I've had
for about 6 months now and Klaus always loses his color when I turn the
light out.
<Mm, this is probably normal.... Many fish "wash out" or "fade" at
night.>
I know this is usually a sign of stress, but the Olaf has no problem
like this. I've noticed recently that when Klaus loses his color it is
going much lighter than the pale green to almost a yellow.
<I don't think I'd worry about this, as long as water quality is
excellent.>
He recently had an internal parasite from feeding him feeder goldfish,
which I don't do anymore,
<Ah, good - very dangerous to use unquarantined fish as food; besides,
goldfish are of very poor nutritional content.>
and I treated him with Metronidazole and he regained his health.
<Good.>
When he was sick he lost his color just the same as now, but he never
turned as light as he did. Actually right now as I'm typing this, I
turned the light on as a test and he has turned back to a healthy green
color after the light was off for about an hour.
<This does sound normal.>
I have no idea why he does this and any help would be great. Again
like I said the other Oscar never does this.
<Possibly he has better (or worse) control of his chromatophores.... I
wouldn't worry, if both are acting well and healthy, and if water
quality is excellent. For now, just observe them, and keep a close eye
on Klaus.>
Thanks again, keep up the good work.
<And thank you, also. Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Oscars and Exophthalmus - 09/16/2005
Hello,
<Hi.>
I have a question I hope someone can help me with.
<Okay.>
I have a Tiger Oscar about 5-6 inches long, and it's left eye is pretty
messed up. It started last week with a white mass of some sort
collecting right behind the left eye and ever since then it has gotten
worse. The white mass got larger and began pushing the left eye
out. Now, there is still a large collection of sort behind the eye and
it is also red, like I can see flesh or muscle coming out.
<Exophthalmus.... "pop-eye". Can find more here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/popeyefaqs.htm
>
I have been doing water changes, testing the parameter and treating with
Melafix, I thought it may have been Popeye.
<Melafix will not help/affect this ailment.>
I used this medicine before when my fish were acting very sickly and
breathing very rapidly and it worked and brought it back around. He is
still pretty active although he is swimming a little on it's right
side. Does this sound like Popeye or could something else be
wrong? What else can be done? Please help me! I cringe every time I
look at him.
<Check your water quality. Maintain ammonia and nitrite at ZERO,
nitrate less than 20ppm, and add Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) to the
water at a rate of 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons. This should help with
the swelling. You can re-dose this in a few days after a large water
change.>
Desperate in Texas
<Please do take a look at those FAQs. Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Oscar with Hole-In-The-Head 9/13/05
My Oscar has hole-in-the-head. I treated him before and he looked ok. I put
him into my 125 gallon tank about two weeks later the holes are back, mucus is
back. The holes are in his cheeks and he has a puffy eye. On my second 9.5oz
bottle of hole-n-head guard by Jungle. Won't eat the medicated food after 2 days
but will eat other food. I change the water every other day with RO water. What
can I do to help him. He is six inches long if that makes any difference.
<First of all, if you want your questions answered you need to include some
punctuation with your sentences. I know this takes a little time but it helps us
understand exactly what the situation is so we can give you the best advice
possible. Secondly, we only have so much time per day to answer questions and we
much rather be answering questions and helping people than correcting grammar or
trying to figure out what is being said. Put you Oscar in a hospital tank with
clean water. Treat with Metronidazole and Nitrofuranace for three to four days
as per the directions on the packages. Change the diet to include some live or
frozen food. Keep up on your water change and clean the filter often.-Chuck>
Oscar with Cloudy Eyes 9/5/05
Hello! I have had my Oscar for almost 2 years now. He lives in a 25 gallon
tank and over the last 5 days he has developed a white color over his eyes. It
doesn't look like a film. It looks like somebody painted his eyes white and now
he's not eating either? Know what it is? ~Amie
< Your Oscar has a bacterial infection that has covered his eyes and probably
the rest of his body. You just cannot see it as well on the body. Do a 30% water
change, vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Check the water temperature and
make sure it is around 80 F. Erythromycin works really well on this disease. If
you cannot find any try Nitrofurazone. These medications may harm the good
bacteria that breaks down fish waste so check for ammonia spikes after the fish
has been cured.-Chuck>
Oscar Floating 9/5/05
Hello, I have emailed you as I am not too good at the computer and I am very
worried about my Tiger Oscar. He has been with us a good few years now and
shares a tank with two extremely large goldfish. I know this is unusual but
they seem to live a harmonious life. The goldfish have grown to the same length
as the Oscar, about 7" ,
The problem is that Oscar has been lying on his side at the top of the tank for
about four days now and has struggled very hard to get himself upright. He is
not eating at all ,whereas before he was very friendly and always came forward
for his food.
He doesn't appear to be able to stay on the bottom of the tank at all and only
rarely manages to swim to the other end of the tank. We have roughly 40 gallons
of water and we keep doing partial water changes but still no improvement.
He is prone to having massive sulks if we change his routine at all so we know
it's not that. I would appreciate any help at all. Many thanks, Patricia.
< My guess is an internal bacterial infection. Do a 30% water change while
vacuuming the gravel and clean the filter. Treat with Metronidazole. If you
can't find it then try Clout or a double dose of Nitrofurazone. Watch for
ammonia spikes because these medications may affect the good bacteria that break
down the fish waste.-Chuck>
Oscar With Hole-In-The-Head 8/30/05
Hey WWC! I have an Oscar that I'm afraid that has HITH. What are the
symptoms of this
disease and how can I treat it if it is HITH?
< Look for pitting around the head, behind the eyes. Change 30% of the water,
vacuum the gravel, clean the filter. Treat with Metronidazole as per the
directions on the package. Feed a high quality food.-Chuck>
Oscar eyes... 8/28/05
Hey, I just got 2 Oscars about a week ago, and all seemed to be going well
until one of them seemed really sluggish and didn't really fight for his food
when I put it in the tank. Then today he was just laying in the corner and his
spots went very dark black, and his eyes, well actually more like his eye lids
(the circle around his eyes) went all black as well.
<Not good>
I couldn't figure out what was going on and he didn't come out of it so I put
him into a quarantine tank just in case.
<Whoa... what about your main tank? What size, how set-up, its history? Other
livestock? How are they behaving? Water quality tests?>
He has been there for a few hours and he will come out of his slump, his eyes
will go back to yellow and he will be fine. Then every 5-10 minutes he'll go
"back to black" and lay there on his side like he is afraid. I can't figure out
what is going on, please help!!!!!
Thanks so much!
Your website is awesome, and so far very helpful, sorry if someone already
posted about this. I'm a little frantic over my new babies.
Thanks again!
<Please (re)read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/oscars.htm
and the linked files above... and respond to the questions above. Thank you, Bob
Fenner>
Poor Oscar Needs Help 8/27/05
Hello, Jonathan here =-
A customer brought me her Oscar today, she was very teary eyed and
emotional. Not surprising the animal is sick, Oscars are usually kept in
substandard conditions and from what I heard from her, it's no surprise hers
is ill. Probably housed in a 55 gallon with another Oscar and large pleco.
55's are too small in my opinion to allow the animal to turn around and
having another Oscar of such a large size and pleco means it was overloaded.
Her water change routine was probably poor too. Some exposure to feeder
fish as a food source. It is a 12 inch fish. Some signs of stunting, both eyes
stick out more than I would like, so not extreme Popeye, but some buildup of
internal fluid in cavity is more likely. Some hole in the head likely, pits are
too big, not craters,
but too noticeable. What’s interesting is what she told me before she
brought it in, that it had something bulging out of its anus... which I was
immediately thinking of Camallanus, but upon arrival and further talking to
her it appears to be something else. Looking at the animal it appears to
have a distended intestine. She said that when she transferred it that it
was incased in a sac, which by handling was ruptured. She also thought it
was a female because [here is the interesting part] on the distended 'organ'
there are white spheres, which she thought were fish eggs. They look more
like the spheres associated with fish Tb. On a post in wetwebmedia, someone
advised that a severum with a similar anus problem was an internal bacterial
problem that expelled some of the intestine. keyword: Oscar anus.
I've seen 'ropey' intestine uncoiled from other fish, usually from external
damage. This isn't that, it’s more like a fat pudge sticking out 2 inches,
red tissue, looks like some large cysts near the base, and having white
sphere like objects on it.... not round spheres, more like warped, bent
ones. On a positive note there’s no fin rot, external parasites, or real damage
to
the outside of the fish. Sorry to be so long winded. I'll try and take a
digital photo to provide to an internet site dealing with aquarium fish
disease. [or to you]
Oscar is now housed singly in 80 gallon establish dealer tank. May have to
move to 20 gallon partition tank. Daily water changes will be needed to
support that size animal in a smaller tank. I don't want to move, but it
may be out of my hands. Daily water changes, some MelaFix in water to
discourage any external bacteria (probably won't do much), I have some
Medi-gold triple antibiotic food pellets I purchased from a
goldfishconnection, which I plan to start administering shortly. I may soak
them in some vita-chem freshwater to help.
> my eyes its looks like a distended part of the intestine caused by an
internal bacterial infection, covered in white cysts possibly fish tb.
Possibly of recovery.. unknown 40 %
Please share your opinion and / experience with me
p.s. working in a retail fish store, such a good way to see these horrible
things, I have the manual of fish health & handbook of fish disease, and endless
hours on the net, but still experience rules regards, Jonathan
< The prolapsed anus may be distended due to disease or poor diet. Smaller
regular feedings will be less stressful on the system. Treat with Metronidazole
for internal bacterial infections. Fish will definitely benefit from the
treatment.-Chuck>
Red Oscar HITH 8/25/05
I lost one 3 years ago to HITH disease although "Rocco" is still hanging on.
I just treated him with Metronidazole. Forget about it that stuff made all my
fish ill and killed 3 silver dollars immediately.
<Is toxic... and many folks don't treat it, realize how much so>
please let people know that liquid Baytril is what helped "Rocco" in his earlier
days!
<You have done so here>
That was 5 years ago. Now he's worse than ever and I am unclear if he's just
ready to go. Is this Old age or just the disease.
<Perhaps a bit of both... how about nutritional inputs?>
He is 6 years old. Is he still young?
<Mmm, no... more like "middle-aged">
His hole is increasing in size, he didn't want to eat, his eyes are starting to
get cloudier by the day, he lays at the bottom of his 55 gallon tank and
vibrates his tail, what is that?
<Bummed>
Should I go get the Baytril again? An will it harm my other 2 cichlids, pleco,
and silver dollars?-Thanks!
<I would try improving nutrition, water quality... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/hllefaqs.htm
and the linked files above... Oh, and yes, the marine references also apply. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Red Oscar HITH 8/26/05
Thank you for your input! My tank is eating Spirulina cubes and plankton
cubes, brine shrimp, blood worms, etc. Should I get something different or
continue and then add vitamins and perhaps Baytril as well. I appreciate any
information you can give me. Thank you.
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/hllefaqs.htm
and the linked files above. The root of your problem is likely nutritional
primarily, environmental secondarily. Bob Fenner>
Oscar With a Tumor? 8/23/05
Hi Bob,
< Chuck this time>
I have found your site nothing but helpful and one of the BEST places to
do research and learn all you can (I'm sure you've heard that a million
times...still true)! I recently help moderate a forum (I'm no expert,
just have to keep down the vulgarity), recently there has been an issue
of an Oscar with a huge growth that is rapidly increasing in size...now
to the size of a baseball. I was wondering if you might take a look at
the following link:
http://www.chataquariums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656(includes
pictures) and clear up this mystery. We would all appreciate it greatly.
Thanks for your time. Sincerely, Missy
< Cichlids sometimes developed internal bacterial infections from
stress. This is similar to dropsy and is commonly referred to a bloat by
longtime cichlid keepers. I would recommend a 30% water change while
vacuuming the gravel and clean the filter. Isolate the fish in a
hospital tank if possible and treat with Metronidazole. Some aquarists
have had some success with Clout or using a double dose of
Nitrofuranace.-Chuck> |
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Oscar 8/22/05
My Oscar has not been eating for a week. I have changed water & treated him
with Metro. for 4 days. He seems to be improving & seems active, but not
100%. I noticed that his left eye is swollen and cloudy. I think my Oscar is
blind. Any comments is greatly appreciated.
<Hi Alycia. First off, where is this Oscar living, and with whom? How large of
a tank, what are his tankmates, what are the water parameters (ammonia, nitrite,
nitrate, pH, temp. at a minimum)? How old is the fish / how long have you had
it? Here's a great introduction to all-things-Oscar:
http://www.aquariacentral.com/articles/oscar1.shtml
With regards to the eye, sounds as if the fish could have a bacterial infection
- look here:
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/fish_diseases/eyes.html
He should be in a quarantine / isolation tank...hopefully you haven't been
medicating your main tank, as that is never a good idea. Take a look at the
attached link to make a diagnosis and treat accordingly. Be sure, however, to
do enough water changes to completely remove the current medication if you plan
on changing to a different one - you don't ever want to mix meds.
Hope I've given you a good start. Do as much research as you can to properly
identify your fish's symptoms, and definitely check out the water conditions, as
the cause could be purely environmental, as many fish "diseases" are. Good luck,
Jorie>
Alycia
Oscars and "Feeders" - 08/17/2005
I have 2 large Oscars (one red and one tiger) in a 55 gallon tank with no
other fish except a Plecostomus.
<Too small for these animals....>
I recently did a full water change/tank cleaning and gave them some feeders (I
only do this every couple of months).
<The full water change is rarely a good approach - on your tank, I would
recommend weekly water changes of about 30%, or more/more frequently, depending
upon your nitrate levels and how quickly they build up. Err, and NEVER feed
your fish unquarantined live "feeder" fish!! This is almost a 100% guarantee
that you will introduce parasites, bacteria, or other disease to your animals.>
Now my red has developed a bulge on his left side (there is a slight protrusion
on the right but not as prominent) and he is mouthing like he is having a hard
time breathing.
<A number of possibilities.... if he is not defecating, I would suspect he may
be constipated. I would add Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to the water at a
rate of 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons.>
He is also not eating his usual pellets which he is usually very excited to get.
The tiger is showing none of these symptoms. I have had these two for almost six
years, since they were babies, and have never seen anything like this. I did a
lot of reading and searching for fish with these symptoms and from everything
that you have said (in answer to others questions) this could be an internal
infection?? The people at the fish store don't seem to informed about Oscars and
their behavior and told me that he is possibly is having a hard time digesting
the feeders?? That just doesn't seem right?
<Mm, possibly right, to an extent.... Feeder goldfish are a horrible nutrition
for an Oscar (or most other fish, for that fact). I would not be surprised if
the Oscar has a gut blockage from this sort of a meal. Be pleased if that's the
only problem from it.... and be on the lookout for parasitic infestation,
bacterial illness....>
Please help. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Trouble in
Jersey
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/goldfshfd.htm and
the links, in blue, at the top of that page, for more information. Wishing you
well, -Sabrina>
Small white worms in my tank 8/18/05
Hi,
<Hello>
I have an Oscar. He is in a very small tank right now and has been for
about 9 months. He is really growing fast. I never feed him feeder fish. Just
fish food from the fish store.
One day we saw these whitish balls floating around in the tank. Very
small. Now there are these white, worms on my Oscar and on the sides of the
tank and when you look into the tank you can see them floating around and
wiggling on the sides of the tank. They are about 1/8 - 1/4 inch long. They
seem to be making sores on Oscars head. It looks like he has indentions on his
head in several small places. What is going on? Please help me! I am afraid
to get the worm things on me or put them into the sink or dump the water on the
ground for fear of what these are. The tank is full of them...but they are so
very tiny that until now I had only noticed a few of them....now the tank if
full of them.
<The small white worms and the indentations on the Oscar's head are actually two
different symptoms of the same problem. The worms are called Planaria --do a
search on WWM with the keyword 'Planaria' -- and thrive in tanks with excess
food sitting in the gravel. Very common in tanks with large predators,
especially when the tank is on the small side. They are harmless for the most
part and can be eradicated by a really good gravel washing and a dose of
aquarium salt at about 1 tsp/10 gallons. The indentation in the head could be
the start of HLLE, or "hole in the head" disease -- search WWM for this as well
for more info --. In any case, both of these are symptoms of declining water
quality, most likely due to excess feeding so your options really are three: 1)
reduce feedings to the amount that the fish will eat in a couple of minutes
(watch for how much is coming out through the gills and just sitting on the
gravel) one or two times per day 2) more frequent/larger water changes or 3)
move the Oscar to a larger tank with heavy filtration (probably the best option
if financially feasible). An Oscar really needs a 50-60 gallon tank or larger
with serious biological and mechanical filtration if one wants to avoid some of
these water quality issues that are so often associated with these messy
feeders.>
Thanks
<Thank you>
<Glenn>
Oscar With Growth on His Lip 8/16/05
Dear Crew, I have a 7" Oscar in a 55 gallon tank along with some buddies
(6" mute
Striped Raphael, 6" Pleco, 3" Red Devil, 5" Jack Dempsey, and a 6" Jaguar). I
have a power filter with an underground filter. I know it was a bad choice to
put it in, but when I only had the Oscar and Jack they did not dig, and
still don't, but the Jaguar does... Well, on with the question. My Oscar has
some
sort of thing on his lower lip, almost like a zit... I looked around your
site and could not find anything very close to what it looks like. Otherwise my
Oscar is in perfect health and so are all of his buddies. (Could you believe
that the little Red Devil tries his best to annoy my Oscar?) Thanks very much!
Christine
< Probably a scar from a fight. Oscar could be fighting an infection but I am
not sure if fish have white blood cells like we do. <Yes, they do. RMF> Probably
have something similar. If the zit pops then watch for secondary infection and
may have to treat with Nitrofuranace if the infection spreads.-Chuck>
Oscars Didn't Like the Move 08/08/2005
Hello guys. I am very concern about my two common Oscars. They were in a 30
gallon tank, but a week ago I put them in a 55 gallon tank. At first they were
ok, but all of a sudden they are not eating and the biggest one is with his head
down in the corner of the tank. The other one also do the same thing but lately
is just laying in the bottom of the tank. I did a 25 percent water change and
raised the temperature to 82 degrees, please help!
Carmelo Soto
< Big Central and South American cichlids don't like to be moved around too
much. After a move they are likely to sulk around the tank for awhile until they
get use to their new home. Place some hiding places in the tank, leave it dark
for a week or so until they start to act more normal. Feed them once a day.
Remove all the uneaten food after two minutes. If it looks like they are
starting to bloat or don't resume eating after a while the I would assume that
they may have come down with an internal bacterial infection and treat them with
Metronidazole.-Chuck>
Sick Oscar Not Eating 8/4/05
Hi Chuck Thank you for the advise given recently about my dying baby Oscars.
I have not fed the new ones any ox heart and they seem to be doing fine.
Great all is well with the babies .
Just when one problem is sorted out another arises.
In my 4 foot tank with my big Oscars (4 large and one small one) my biggest
and favourite Oscar who is the biggest (He is about 6 inches) because he has
always been so aggressive when it comes to feeding has just stopped eating.
The water seems okay and all the other Oscars behaviour and eating habits
have remained unchanged. I really am concerned because it is almost a week now
since he has eaten and I am really worried he is going to die. There are no
external signs of sickness what so ever and he is a bit off colour and swims
slowly around the tank completely ignoring all forms of food. I got some
earthworms which he has always gone crazy for and he just
ignores them even when I give the to him with tongs and wave them in front of
his mouth.
I am really worried about him. I have treated the water for internal parasites
only and out of desperation have moved him into the 3 foot baby tank hoping for
a change in the
condition , but so far no change. The strange thing is that the rest of the
fish in the 4 foot are 100% and in the 3 foot but he has just stopped eating
completely. Any advise would be most appreciated , I really don't want to loose
him
Thank you for all your help Regards Trevor
< To me, when a cichlid quits eating it is the first sign of an internal
bacterial infection. Make sure that the tank is clean with no ammonia, nitrites
and very low nitrates. You can treat with clout, Nitrofuranace or Metronidazole.
I find that the latter is the best. The quicker you treat the better the chances
of recovery.-Chuck>
Oscar with Hole in the Head Disease 8/4/05
My husband and I have a 11 1/2 inch Oscar in a 55 gallon tank by his self.
About 2 months ago, he developed hole in the head. We started treating him with
Melafix. We treated him with that medicine for about 2 weeks. No improvement. We
went to the local pet store and they recommended Pimafix for fungal infections
as well as start including aquarium salt with every water change and to remove
activated carbon filters. They told us to use a teaspoon of Pimafix for every
10 gallons. We treated for about 4 weeks, problem got worse. Our fish is now not
eating and hasn't eaten for about 3 weeks at the time of the Pimafix. We went to
another petstore and they recommended Maroxy-2 for fungal infections. The
problem has still gotten worse. He does not eat and has slow labored breathing
and lies at the bottom of the tank on his side. We are VERY worried about our
dear fish. Can you please help us. We are desperate! George and Lisa
< Check the water quality. Ammonia and nitrites should be zero. Nitrates should
be under 25 ppm with the lower the better. Clean the filters and do a 30% water
change while vacuuming the gravel. Now that the tank is clean you should treat
with Metronidazole as per the directions on the package.-Chuck>
Re: Sick Oscar 8/5/05
Where do I find the Metronidazole?
< Drsfostersmith.com.>
We are both novices when it comes to
fish. How do I check the levels of ammonia and nitrate?
< Buy a FW test kit to check levels.>
I cleaned the filters and the gravel and did a water change last night and he
does not
seem to be doing any better. Lisa
< Improving your fish's living conditions will improve his immune response.
Organic matter in the water and filter will absorb some of the medication
making it less effective. So removing this waste will make the medication more
effective. While you are waiting for the metro, you can add a teaspoon or rock
salt per ten gallons of water and treat with a double dose of Nitrofurazone or a
single dose of Clout. These medications may cure your fish and the metro may not
be needed. I think metro is still the best choice.-Chuck>
One Oscar with a Potential Problem 8/3/05
I have a 55 gallon with two 4" Oscars in it which I've enjoyed for a month
now. Don't worry...I'm getting a 125 gallon for them this Christmas. These
Oscars (Black Gold and Lava) have acted like best friends from the start
swimming all over together and rubbing against each other. Last night I noticed
that Lava was hiding in the big castle. I've seen it swim through the castle,
but it never stays inside of it. This morning was the same thing. When I feed
them I tap on the tank and they come rushing to me eager to eat. Black Gold
still did that. Lava ignored me. I lifted the castle a bit to get Lava out. I
noticed spots on Lava's gills that look like it may be shedding scales. They're
clear and one is loose. Lava also swims vertical with its head to the
top. When Lava does decide to come out of hiding, Black Gold seems to chase it
and sometimes kind of headbutt Lava in the side. I sure don't know what to
think of this...unless Black Gold is excited to see its best friend. LOL Lava
only stays out for a minute and hides again. Could there be a problem? Thanx,
Karen
< Looks like one of your Oscars is dominating the other for territory, food,
etc.... This could be serious. BG (Big Gold), probably bit the side of Lava and
loosened some scales. If might be a scrape from hitting an ornament or a rock
from trying to get away from BG. If the water is kept clean then they should
heal up. If it looks like the area is starting to fungus then it needs to be
treated with Nitrofuranace. The strange swimming position is a sign of internal
damage to the swim bladder from the ramming or an internal bacterial infection
from the stress of being dominated by the other fish. Place Lava in a hospital
tank and treat for bloat with Metronidazole. When lava is cured you need to
re-arrange all of the ornaments and rocks when you put lava back in so they can
establish new territories. While Oscars are very intelligent for fish they are
not "friends". They simply acknowledge each other and will always be in
competition with each other. BG is taking advantage of the fact that lava may be
sick.-Chuck>
Sick Tiger Oscar 8/2/05
Thank you Chuck. I am also anxious to see if he pulls through. I will let
you know. I changed about 30% of the water last night and added the second
treatment of Melafix. I will do another water change and treatment
tomorrow. So far s/he is still breathing funny, but still hanging in
there. How much longer should I wait to try and feed him?
< When he starts acting normal and chases you all over the front of the tank.>
What should I feed and how?
<Start with a few flakes. If they are not eaten then remove them after two
minutes .>
Should I just put it in the water, or try and take him out with the net?
< If the flakes are not eaten then just net them out.-Chuck> I have never done
this before. Thanks for being patient. You have been a great help. Sharon
Upside Down Oscar 8/2/05
Hello, I have three Oscars, one female, and two males....the males are
sometimes aggressive with each other. one is a tiger , the other, albino.
I have never had any problems until now with the chemical imbalances
before, but was curious, as to what would cause my male to turn upside down,
like his equilibrium is off. Use to, when I would clean the tank, they would all
be fine...the last time, as soon as I started the vacuum process, which has now
been four days ago, one of the male Oscars, turned upside down...Could it have
been the change in the water, or just getting old. He is now two years
old.. and about twelve inches long. They live in a 75 gallon tank. I
read through some of the other questions on your forum, and saw that you said to
add Epsom salt. Is this correct, and will it help him, and how much should I
try....His belly is also bloated. Help!! I
don't want to lose any of them..
< These internal bacterial infections are almost always caused by stress. Clean
the tank and filter and treat with Metronidazole as per the directions on the
package.-Chuck>
Sick Oscar Getting Better 8/2/05
Chuck, From what I can see, the Melafix has worked.
< To be honest I am somewhat surprised.>
Tiger's breathing has slowed considerably...looks about normal now, and to my
surprise, I dropped in one pellet of Cichlid food and he ate it. I did see him
spit some of it out, but he gobbled it up as soon as I put it in. He is
swimming around more, but not as excited as he used to be. His color doesn't
seem as bold as it used to be, is there something I can feed him to help that?
< IF he is eating then food from Spectrum and Marineland will help bring back
his color.>
Also, if and when I decided to give him a treat of worms, should I just break
off a small piece...about the size of the pellets, and wash off all the gunk,
and then just feed it to him?
< Wash the worm and cut off a small piece no longer than one quarter the length
of his body.>
Should I do anything special to it?
< Just make sure it is clean.>
What should I have done differently with the shrimp. Don't worry, I am going to
steer clear of them for quite a while, at least until it gets bigger. I
actually think there is hope now. Thanks for all of your help and patience.
< A very few small pieces over a long time.-Chuck>
Sick Oscars 7/26/05
Hello, After doing some more reading.. (smile) about feeding frozen food, I
have another question for you. I purchased a bag of frozen salad shrimp from
the grocery store and began feeding them to my Tiger Oscars. When they were
eating they would practically jump out of the tank and bite my finger to get
it. I would normally just thaw one piece in some tap water and cut it up into
small pieces and feed them...after reading an article, I saw a suggestion made
on how to thaw frozen foods with water from the tank. Has my method gotten my
fish sick? Or been a contributing factor?
< Shrimp is a very rich food. Feeding it alone could cause a bacterial blockage.
The bacteria in the gut may not be able to handle this rich food. Decomposing
bacteria then get hold of it and the food rots in their gut causing a blockage.
This could lead to bloat. If fact based on your description I think they already
have it. I would treat them with Metronidazole as per the directions on the
package.>
Also, after looking more closely, the bubble I thought I saw while they were
breathing is not a frothy bubble, but yet looks more like their teeth, or some
thin sheet of something that come down from their mouth when they breath. One
of them has a couple of white spots on its fin, about the size of a pin head,
doesn't really look like Ich, but cannot be sure. They are both still breathing
very heavily and have now moved to the center of the tank and keeping their
mouths at the very surface of the water. I have read about feeding them
earthworms....the kind I can just purchase at Wal-Mart. Should I get some of
these and try catching one of the Oscars in a net to feed him? They have not
eaten in at least a week.
< Don't feed your fish until they act normal. Check the water quality. Ammonia
and nitrites should be zero. Nitrates should be under 25 ppm. the lower the
better. Check these often because medication will probably affect the good
bacteria that breaks down the fish waste.>
Now about my filter. I have a Whisper PF-60 HOB filter that hangs on the back
of my tank. When I do water changes, I normally change out the filter bags and
clean the tubing that hangs in the water. I have been reading and have not come
across how or if I should clean the hanging unit itself. I see some growth
collecting on the portion where the water flows back into the tank, but I do not
want to take anything apart and end up breaking things. Please advise. Thank
you.
< You should be able to disassemble the filter for cleaning as per the
directions that came with it. I would clean the filter every two weeks and
vacuum the gravel while doing the water changes on the weeks that you don't
clean the filter. The reason for this is so you don't remove all the good
bacteria. A total thorough cleaning usually results in losing all the good
bacteria and a tank coming down with the New Tank Syndrome and very high ammonia
levels.-Chuck>
New Fish Decisions 7/27/05
Chuck, I do not have another tank to use as quarantine. I do not have the
space or money to purchase one. The only thing I have is a Betta vase that is
not being used, nothing else with a heater, pump or filtration. What should I
do if I want to purchase more fish?
<Every time you place a new fish into your main aquarium, you run a risk of
introducing a disease. Over time, the money you will spend on replacing fish and
on medication will really seem expensive compared to the cost of a plain 10
gallon tank.>
How long should I wait?
< If you water quality is OK then you really don't have to.>
Also, will the Metronidazole harm my 2 Plecos?
< No>
I am little leery of purchasing this medicine. It is a little expensive. I
would hate to buy it and then have my fish die. For the price I pay for this
med, I could get 2 more Oscars. I will try. Thanks.
< At this point and time the replacement Oscars seem cheap compared to the price
of the medication. At some point and time if you are going to stay in the
cichlid hobby you will encounter this problem again but the fish may be a discus
or and expensive Frontosa. Find a store that carries the medication for next
time.-Chuck>
How much Medicine
oh yeah, sorry. I have a 55 gallon tank, how much of this Metronidazole do
you think I would need?
< As I recall you will need one 250mg capsule for every 10 gallons of water. You
will need to treat three times so you will need at least 16 capsules.-Chuck>
My Tiger Oscar is sick 7/22/05
Hello, my name is Sharon and this is the first time I have had Oscars. I
purchased 3 of them from my local pet store and within 12 days one of them had
died.
I noticed it (not sure how to tell female from male) was not acting normal, just
laying around on the bottom of the tank, breathing heavily and not eating. I
have a 55 gallon tank that also houses 2 Plecos about 4 inches long. I noticed
the sick Oscar had a white frothy bubble of some sort in it's mouth when it
breathed, and it was taking very deep breaths. I took it out of the tank and
placed it in my beta fish vase.. I figured it was going to die, so I did not
want it with the others for fear they would eat on it and get sick too. Now,
one of the others is sick with the same thing, frothy bubble, deep breathing,
and a thick clear bubble surrounding it's eyes.
<Mmm, they do have a clear area...>
This one is staying at the top of the tank, pretty much in one area...behind
one of the tall plastic plants. I have treated them for ICH first... which they
did
have. That cleared up. After that, that is when I noticed the other fish get
sick. It was fine before then. I have assumed it was some sort of fungus and am
treating with ANTI-FUNGUS BY AQUARIUM PRODUCTS once I finished treating for the
ICH. It has made my water green.
<These "medicines" are toxic...>
I did a water change a couple of weeks ago, and have not been up to doing it
lately as I am recovering from surgery. Could you please give me an idea as to
what is wrong with it,
<Is this tank cycled? How is it filtered? There is something amiss with the
environment here... do you have test kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate?>
will the other Oscar catch it, can it be cured, should I just cut my loses and
flush the sick one??????? Also, How often should I change my water, and how
much?
<... this is posted... on WWM>
Should I purchase separate kits that test for each nitrate, chlorine,
etc? What kinds of medicines should I have on hand? I have also been feeding
them Cichlid pellets, flakes and frozen shrimp. Am I doing something wrong? I
want to be able to keep these Oscars for many years and allow my daughter to
watch them grow, but so far, I am not having that much luck. Please help me!!!
Also, I am not sure where to look for your response, whether here or your
website, so would you please send an answer to this email address just to make
sure I get your help. Thank you.
Desperate for help!
<Then read... here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwsubwebindex.htm
re Set-up, Oscars... Bob Fenner>
Re: My Tiger Oscar <System> is sick 7/23/05
Bob,
<Lexxus>
Thanks for getting back with me. I have looked at the site you gave and still
have a lot of reading to do, but also more questions. First, you mentioned
something about filtration...I have a TopFin 55 gallon tank with a double filter
that hangs over the sides, plastic plants and some fun decorations. Right now
there is no carbon in the filters because of the medicine in the water. I am
afraid my Oscars will not make it even after I have done a water change. They
have not moved from the corner of the tank in a couple of days, and not eaten at
all.
<What is their water quality?>
You said the medicines I was using were toxic... but this is what employees at
Petsmart suggested I use. What would be better?
<... please keep reading...>
Also, what is your take on Aquarium Salt? Should I add it or not?
<I would>
I have seen you mention something about Furnace. What is this and can it be
bought at Petsmart?
<... don't add anything unless you know what you're doing. You don't>
How many water changes should I do to take out this green medicine in my tank,
and if my fish die...including the Plecos who are swimming around like crazy,
how long should I wait before adding 1 or 2 more Oscars? Please help.
Thanks.
<Read, don't write. Bob Fenner>
Sick Oscars 7/17/05
I have two tiger Oscars in a tank together along with a few giant danios.
After I added the danios, I noticed some little white spots on the black
tiger Oscar, which I am 99.9% sure were Ich. So, I got some medicine for Ich
and began treatment, removing my charcoal filters. I have been treating for
4 days now. The white spots from the one tiger Oscar have almost all gone
away, but his front fins are really ragged looking and all he does is lay on
the bottom of the tank, and occasionally swim around. The other Oscar is an
albino tiger. I never noticed any white spots, but that is likely because
he's white himself, because he has the same ragged fins and just lays
around. I've been checking the water, and I just did a 25% water change. The
ammonia is low, the nitrites are low and the nitrates are low. Also, both of
the Oscars have a cloudy gray film that is starting to cover their eyes. Is
that related or have they contracted yet another disease? The danios are
swimming around doing fine, acting like nothing is going on. One more thing,
I have a Marineland 350 gph Biowheel filter, as well as a Marineland Magnum
350 Deluxe running in the tank (which is 75 gallons), neither filter uses
charcoal. The Magnum has got its micron filter in, should I turn it off, is
it filtering out the medicine?
<Your Oscars are responding to the disease. They are trying to fight it off by
using a thick body slime. But they could have picked up another disease with the
danios. The ich could have weakened their immune system and they now have a
bacterial infection too. Remove all the carbon and place the BioWheel in a cool
damp location. Make sure that it does not dry out. Treat the body slime with
Nitrofurazone along with the ich medication. When you do a water change you
should vacuum out the gravel to remove the mulm that has accumulated. Do not
feed while medicating. When the ich is gone then discontinue the ic medication.
Continue with the antibiotic until the fish are cured. Remove the medication
with a high quality carbon. Then replace the bio-wheel and add Bio-Spira from
Marineland to replace the good bacteria.-Chuck>
Sick (Dying ) Oscars II 7/17/05
I wrote you yesterday with this problem, and I had to write again because I
haven't gotten a response.
< We usually try an respond within 24 hrs)
I'm really worried about my Oscars here, please
help.
< You have already received a response.-Chuck>
I have two tiger Oscars in a tank together along with a few giant
danios. After I added the danios, I noticed some little white spots on the
black tiger Oscar, which I am 99.9% sure were Ich. So, I got some medicine
for Ich and began treatment, removing my charcoal filters. I have been
treating for 4 days now. The white spots from the one tiger Oscar have all
gone away, but his front fins are really ragged looking and all he does is
lay on the bottom of the tank and his breathing looks labored, and
occasionally swim around. The other Oscar is an albino tiger. I never
noticed any white spots, but that is likely because he's white himself,
because he has the same ragged fins and just lays around. I've been checking
the water, and I just did a 25% water change. The ammonia is low, the
nitrites are low and the nitrates are low. Also, both of the Oscars have a
cloudy gray film that is starting to cover their eyes. Is that related or
have they contracted yet another disease? The danios are swimming around
doing fine, acting like nothing is going on. One more thing, I have a
Marineland 350 gph Biowheel filter, as well as a Marineland Magnum 350
Deluxe running in the tank (which is 75 gallons), neither filter uses
charcoal. The Magnum has got its micron filter in, should I turn it off, is
it filtering out the medicine?
Oscars Didn't Make It 7/19/05
Thanks for all your help. I tried everything, but today both of my Oscars
died. I never thought I'd be so emotionally attached to a mere fish, but I
actually cried a little bit when I netted them out of the tank.
< Sorry you fish didn't make it. I would recommend that you get a quarantine
tank for next time for new fish. This really helps prevent problems in the
future.-Chuck>
Oscar Problem 7/7/05
Hello, my Oscar has hole in the head disease. When I first started noticing
problems I thought he just had some kind of fungus or something and treated
him with Maracyn for 5 days. Now I started yesterday to treat him with the
medicine for the hole in the head. Since this morning he is laying on his
back. He is still breathing but I don't know what to do for him. He is not
moving or eating, just laying there. His one eye is clouded. He is about 8
inches and lives in a 20 gallon tank by himself with one bottom cleaner. The
color on the belly is still strong but kind of grey on top. The holes in his
head are starting to break open. The medicine says to give it to him every
other day for 3 times with a 25 % water change every time. My next treatment
would be tomorrow. What should I do ? I don't know a lot about fish. It is my
husbands fish and he is currently deployed to Iraq ? Please give me some
help. Thank you. Alexandra Sutton.
< Do a 30% water change, vacuum the gravel and clean the filters. Do not feed
the fish. Treat the tank with Metronidazole. The cloudy eye may be an external
bacterial infection. Treat with Furanace (will turn the water a yellowish green
color). After treatment is completed you can add some carbon to the filter to
remove any left over medication. Add Bio-Spira from Marineland to re-establish
new bacteria to break down the fish waste. This fish is too big for this small
tank. The fish waste accumulates very quickly and this leads to the hole in the
head problems. Good luck and hope you husband comes back safe and sound.-Chuck>
Hole In the Head Disease on Oscars
I have a red tiger and albino Oscar that are around 8 months old, about
7-8
inches, residing in a 75 gallon tank with a couple Plecos as well. In the
past couple weeks they've each developed a case of hole in the head disease.
I'm pretty good about water changes and maintenance, but I will admit
right before the HITH set in I had waited about a week longer than usual to
change the water. Right after that late water change is when I noticed the
first spot appear. A few days later when it still had not gone away and one
appeared on the other Oscar, I started medicating with MelaFix. I followed
the MelaFix directions and medicated for 7 days followed by a 25% water
change yesterday. While medicating I chose not to remove the carbon from my
filter (Fluval 304), because the directions said it was recommended, but not
absolutely necessary. The spots seem to be looking slightly better and I've
chosen to remove the carbon and try the MelaFix for another seven days. My
pH is around 7.5 and my nitrates are still reading quite high at around
80-90 ppm. Sorry for the long-winded description, but is there anything
else you can recommend? I've found searching for information on HITH very
frustrating because there seems to be debate about the causes as well as
treatment. Oh yeah, in terms of diet, I've been feeding them a couple dry
foods (Hikari pellets and sticks), frozen blood worms, brine shrimp, and
feeder fish from a local pet store. I know the feeder fish are a potential
cause, so I've ceased feeding them those since the HITH set in. Once again
sorry for the long description, but any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
< Your high nitrates may be the cause of the problem. Clean the filter,
vacuum the gravel while doing a 30% water change and treat with
Metronidazole. The treatment requires lots of water change so that will get
the nitrates down. They should be under 25 ppm.-Chuck>
Bloated Oscars 7/26/05
Chuck, thank you for being so detailed with me. I do believe Bob and I got
off on the wrong foot and that was not my intention. I was and am feeling very
desperate and at a horrible loss. I have spent a lot of money on fish since we
have had this tank and I feel like just when I think I know what I am doing they
die. Can you tell me if PetSmart sells Metronidazole?
< Probably not. Try Drsfostersmith.com, they can ship overnight at a price.>
And about how much does it cost.
< Depends on the size tank you have . Larger tanks require more medication thus
more cost.>
I have also purchase some Nightcrawlers from Wal-Mart. When the fish are
feeling better, can this be part of their diet?
< Sure , just don't give them the entire container all at once.>
What should I have done differently with the shrimp...so that I will not make
the same mistake.
< Shrimp itself is not a bad food once they are use to it. I would have fed them
their normal pellet or flake food. Give them no more than they will eat in two
minutes once each day. I know these little beggars can be persistent, especially
once they get their owners trained for food. I would have made up their regular
diet and supplemented it with 5% shrimp. This would be a very small amount but
it would get the bacteria in their gut introduced to this new food source. I
would increase the amount of shrimp by 5% every day up to maybe 50% once a
week. There is very little fiber in this meal so many people use a shrimp/peas
mixture. Look in "Enjoying Cichlids" by Ad Konings for the recipe for this food
mixture.>
They are getting more and more discolored by the day. They skin is very pale
and white looking now. I will try and find this medicine and get back to you
with what happens. Thank you.
< In the meantime you might try clout or a double dose of Nitrofuranace.-Chuck>
Bloated Oscars II 7/26/05
Since my last email about the Metronidazole, one of my Oscars has died.
< Sorry>
The other is still swimming around. My question now is, if I begin to treat
within the next day, #1 should I clean the tank before treating?
< Organics in the water will absorb many medications. Cleaner is better.>
#2 do I conduct a water change before each treatment?
< Treat on day one. Then do a water change on day two. Treat again on day three
. Do a water change on day four. Treat again on day 5 . Then do a water change
on day 6. By then your fish should be eating and on his way to recovering.>
#3 If the other fish dies, should I continue to treat the water with the
medication, if so for how long?
< If the fish are gone then there is no reason to treat.>
#4 What else should I do to the water, and how long should I wait before adding
more fish?
<If both Oscars are gone then you could add fish any time after you quarantine
them for at least two weeks. The bloat is an internal disease and really isn't
too contagious unless the tank is pretty dirty.>
Sorry for bombarding you with questions. Any and all advice is greatly
appreciated. Thank you.
< Don't worry about the questions. than is what we are here for.-Chuck>