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FAQs about Stony Coral Health/Disease/Pests 10

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Cyano, algicides admonition  1/13/09
Hi Crew,
I have been battling red slime for a few months and made a lot of progress but could not get it completely. It was contained in a few spots that I would siphon. Every once in a while it would flare up and I would have a real clean up to do. So I decided to try a product despite the problems people have reported. UltraLife Red Slime Control.
<Hmmm….>
My tank is just a 10 gallon and I have candycanes and some fish. Instructions were to use one measure of the enclosed dispenser ( one flat teaspoon full) for 15 gallons. I figure I have about 8 gallons so I used half of that. I pre mixed it with tank water until completely dissolved as instructed. And it did get rid of it. My tank always had a reddish hue to it and now it actually looks very clean. The fish did not seem to mind the treatment. I have a few snails and I did not notice any adverse affects. The corals did not like it. It was nothing major but I rarely see them with open mouths, usually just a few.
<I have seen this, a friend just wiped out his reef recently using a similar antibiotic product.>
But during the treatment they were all open. I left it this way for 2 days. Then  I put carbon back in my filter and did some water changes and so far, after a week, all seems well and it has not returned (yet).
<It will unless the fueling factor is addressed. These treatments are a temporary fix and a poison to filtration. The tank inhabitants are threatened initially by oxygen deprivation, followed by a hit to the biofiltration. See the links below for more re this and the BGA.>
Thanks,
Sam
<Welcome, Scott V.>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/maralgcidefaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm

Cyano Control 1/13/09
Hello Crew:
<Tom>
As Always I must say Great Site!  Tons of information which I read daily and then some.
<Great!>
My tank is a 3-1/2 year old 46 gallon bow with the following:
1-2" crushed coral (which I plan to create DSB 4-6" I have the sugar sized sand but lack the confidence to create without killing my tank family)
<Ah, just add a bit at a time over a couple of weeks and you will be fine.>
50+ lbs of LR
Fluval 404 - took all components out and added Chemi-pure Elite and charcoal
<Redundant, save yourself some cash and use one or the other.>
Aqua C Roma w/Maxijet 1200 and drain hose (upgraded about 2 months ago from Prizm)
<Good move!>
2 power heads for water movement
Coralife 36" compact fluorescent dual 96w (1-daylight, 1-Actinic)
Readings:
SG - 1.023
Phos 0-0.25 (color chart)
Cal - 300
KH - 7
PH - 8.2
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate -10
Temp - 80 F
2 false clowns - had almost 3 years
Yellow Tan
g - 1-1/2 years
2 cleaner shrimp - 6 months
Several various hermits
Several various snails
Frogs spawn - 2 years (had 2 heads and now has 4)
Yellow Polyp - 1-1/2 years
Green Polyp - 2 years
Several Mushrooms - 2-1/2 years
1 Ricordea - 2-1/2 years
1 leather - 1 year
2 nice size pieces of candy cane - 1 year
I believe my tank has a Cyano problem.  The back of my tank ended up covered with dark maroon color algae which I scraped off like wall paper.  But it also covered much of my LR.  How do I clean the LR?
<Best to just scrub in the tank a bit, siphon off what you can with water changes. Treating the cause is the real cure.>
Can I remove some LR to open up the tank a bit? 
<You can.>
Should I be doing something different or in addition in order to remove the Fluval 404 canister?
<Start here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm
Continuing through all the linked files above will tell you more than you ever wish to know about your problem!>
Thanks,
Tom
<Welcome, Scott V.>

Re: Cyano Control 1/14/09
Hello Scott:
Thank you for the information.
<Happy to help out Tom.>
I will keep reading WWM & learning.
Do you think at some point I would remove my Fluval 404 completely and relay on my LR & skimmer?
<I would, it is of little benefit with your other filtration in place while just providing a possible detritus trap and extra maintenance.>
Thanks,
Tom
<Welcome, Scott V.>

Re: Cyano Control... and Scler. hlth.  01/19/09
Hello Scott:
I seem to have a possible problem with my Candy Cane & Frogs Spawn coals.
The Candy Cane always seemed to have plump looking heads and all of a sudden they appear hard for at least a week. The Frogs Spawn for about 2 weeks has not been fully out the tentacles are very close to the skeleton.
I kept thinking that they were disrupted yet its been a while. Water has not changed as listed in earlier email.
<Hmm... I don't know, but it could be a reaction to the Cyano.>
Not sure whats going on.
<When in doubt, do a water change.>
Regards,
Tom
<Best,
Sara M.>

Re: Cyano Control 01/19/09
Hello Sara:
Thanks for the response. That's exactly what I did tonight and will keep doing them. Another thing I noticed is that my snails are not acting right. Astraea & Margarita snails seem to have slowed down and appear to be having trouble moving and some are extended. Another thing I had been doing often was blowing off the LR with a turkey baster and doing the same to the 1-2" crushed coral on the bottom stirring it up. The reason I was doing that was to allow the protein skimmer to clean the water. Is that ok?
<Yes, this is even recommended. However, if your tank is not "used to" it, you might have stirred up too much too fast. Again, the only really remedy for this is more water changes...>
Regards,
Tom
<Best,
Sara M.

RTN Theorizing 12/24/08
Hi Crew,
<Hello Jason. Minh at your service.>
It's been a long time since I've had to write you with a problem. That's good! Unfortunately, one of my beautiful and large Birdsnest just underwent rapid tissue necrosis (RTN). It happened frighteningly fast; in less than a day the grapefruit-sized coral went from healthy to half dead!
<I'm sorry to hear about your loss.>
While my particular cause is unknown (I suspect encroaching mushroom corals, but unsure), I noticed something interesting. The death progressed along the branches of the coral, not simultaneously. In fact, it spread from base to tips (oldest to newest growth). I understand this is a common pattern. In an attempt to save as much as possible, I broke off branches that were still alive and discarded parts that were totally bleached.
<Rapid Tissue Necrosis (also known as apoptosis) is a cellular reaction in corals initiated by various stresses such as bacterial infection, temperature, UV radiation, allelopathy, etc. In this particular case, the encroaching mushroom is a very capable culprit.>
More interesting: the frags that had some dead tissue still on them proceeded to degrade in the same manner. Those that were comprised only of living tissue appear OK.
<If the tissue on a fragment is undergoing apoptosis, it will continue to degrade until the fragment is dead. I would suggest for you to quarantine any remaining healthy fragments in a separate tank to isolate the cellular reaction. This would allow for the highest survival rate of your Seriatopora guttatus while reducing any risk of exposing other healthy SPS corals to this condition.>
This is very puzzling. If this condition was caused by a biological or chemical agent attacking the coral flesh, one would expect that it would either be localized (killing a small area) or all over (killing patches at different places on the coral simultaneously). The fact that the progression moves very predictably along the branches implies, at least to me, that it is innate behavior of the organism, not the result of attack.
Perhaps it is an evolved survival mechanism; a last-ditch effort to abandon the skeleton and grow anew somewhere else on the reef more amenable to the coral's health. In our tanks, of course, that would not happen thanks to lots of factors, but possibly on the reef? This may explain why the frags without dead patches survive: the signal to eject never reaches them, so they persist. Do you know of any research in this regard? Thoughts?
<Although I have seen broadcast reproduction occur in a similar manner, and some rare instances in captivity, the behavior of tissue necrosis appearing in a predictable band pattern indicates a classic case of apoptosis. This cellular reaction could be triggered by allelopathic attack from a neighboring soft coral. Further reading on this subject is available in an excellent article by Eric Borneman, "The Coral Health and Disease Consortium: New Information on Coral Disease." Link:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-03/eb/index.php.>
Thanks! Happy Holidays!
Jason
<Likewise to you and yours. Cheers, Minh.>

Foraminiferans Irritating Corals? 11/21/2008
Hello to whomever is answering emails today :D
<Hi Miguel, Mich here.>
I've been having an issue with what I think are Marginopora vertebralis, which I just Id'd thanks to the handy search function on your site.
<Looks to be so.>
For a back story, I've had issues in the last few months with LPS peeling slowly, and every time on the peeling flesh I find these Foraminiferans.
It seems like they're slowly irritating the corals to death as they feed on whatever it is that they're feeding on the live rock.
<Mmm, does not necessarily make it causational.>
I've included a picture of what I think is them irritating a coral.
<In researching I have not found information to support this, but that does not mean it is not possible.>
This is how all of the peeling LPS tissue in my tank looks like, you can see that at 12 and 6 o'clock they are digging into the flesh of the coral, and especially at 5 o'clock you can see a smaller one digging into the coral with a distinct peeling flesh next to it.
<This is unusual.>
At the very bottom right of the image you can see them working into the flesh as well, and in the top left there is a white spot on the coral that's actually another one that has just attached.
<I see.>
I'm not sure if these are the cause of the problem or just bystanders in another tank issue that may be going on, but it's a bit coincidental that they're always right at the edges of the peeling sides of the corals.
<Some types of Foraminiferans feed on bacteria, perhaps the Foraminiferans are feeding on areas of decay.>
One of my friends had a microscope, so I'm attaching several highly magnified images in order of magnification.
<Cool!>
They average about 1mm across, and in picture 4 there is a blob of green.
<I see.>
I'm not sure what that is but it's the only block in the Foraminiferan that had one in there, possibly it's feeding on it?
<Is a possibility.>
Thanks very much for your time, and I hope things are well!
<Thank you Miguel.>
Miguel
<Cheers,
Mich>


Nice pix! RMF

Hole in my Wellsophyllia brain coral 11/09/08
Hello,
<Hi Tamika, Mich here.>
I just purchased Wellsophyllia brain coral from my local store. When we arrived home we noticed that there are a few holes in it and they look as though they were drilled.
<Well sort of.>
They are perfectly round.
<I see.>
One is about 3/8" diameter and the other 2 are around 1/4" diameter.
<Ok.>
I am quite concerned,
<No need.>
and the store where I bought them say they are "mouths" but we can see the "mouths" and they are not the holes I am looking at.
<They are not mouths.>
Is this some kind of a parasite?
<No.>
Is this going to hurt the rest of my tank?
<No.>
We trust the dealer, we have brought home a few bristle worms from him,
<Again, nothing to worry about, as long as they aren't huge.>
but nothing too terrible. Thanks for your time. I am attaching a couple of pictures.
<These are the homes/former homes of some sort of polychaete worm, ie a feather duster or the like. Nothing to worry about. Enjoy your beautiful
brain.>
Tamika Anderson
<Mich>






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