Shaking boxfish 6/21/07
Greetings!
<Salutations>
I love the site that you guys have going on over there, I am finding lots of
great articles on the Cowfish / Boxfish. I have a Boxfish that has developed
a bit of a twitch. For the most part seems to be normal (swimming, eating,
interactions with other fish, tank exploration, etc.), the only thing that
is odd is that it shakes. It reminds me of when my dog gets water in her ear
and is trying to get it out. We feed frozen blood worms and frozen brine
shrimp.
<Need more, different than this for food items>
Water levels (ph, nitrate, nitrite, salinity) are all normal.
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The only thing that I have noticed is that through the change of the season
there is a window that is letting in some direct evening sunlight that hits
the tank.
<Good observation, but not likely a factor here>
I have been very careful to not feed anything that "floats" like freeze
dried blood worms, so I can't see how it would get a buoyancy problem. I am
not too sure what else to tell you about the fish, oh, other than we have
only had it for about a week.
<Ah, a useful input>
We watched it at the particular store for almost a month before purchasing.
Could the packaging have done this to the fish?
<The what?>
the owner of the store fills the bags with air from a pressurized canister
(looks like a helium tank, but full of air).
<Interesting... better by far to use 100% or so oxygen... works as a general
anesthetic, helps sustain pH...>
I know that the fish are sensitive to eating food with air in it, if the
pressure of the bag was too high, could that have been a cause?
<Mmm, no... the pressure in the bag is only a few ounces higher than ambient
at most>
I know I am probably grasping at straws, but any insight would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
TC Labby
<I have seen what you describe... Do think this is a bit of psychological
and/or physiological adaptive behavior... and will pass in time (a few
weeks) with acclimation. Some folks have speculated over the years that the
"shaking" may be communicative, others that it might be indicative of some
sort of pathogen... Bob Fenner>
Bored Boxfish? 2/12/07
Hi,
<Hello, Pufferpunk here>
I tried to do some research on my question and I couldn't find anything,
maybe I'm frasing
<phrasing >
it incorrectly. We have had our boxfish for about 3 weeks now he has be
doing great. He is our funniest fish! Anyway, last night he started
scratching his teeth against the glass, at least that's what it sounded
like. After, he would make a sand cloud with his tail. He repeated this
over and over until we finally distracted him with food. After eating, he
continued until bedtime. What is going on? Should we be worried? Please
email me back, thanks.
<It could be he's bored. Fish in this family are very curious &
intelligent. They need a lot of decor to investigate. Try adding more
things for your fish to check out--live rock, maybe some silk plants,
etc. It will take time for it to adjust to it's new surroundings. ~PP>
Cowfish Seizures?
Hi guys, I have already looked at two other Cowfish specific sites and
nothing comes up like what I just witnessed, maybe you can help.
<Perhaps>
I have 2 long horn cowfish about a 2 year old. These guys are very social, eat
like pigs, always come to the front of the tank like puppies, which is typical
behavior for this type of fish. But something strange just stared
happening. When I came up to do my normal feeding, one of the cowfish freaked
out. It started expanding its tail, trying to attack its reflection on the side
of the tank, didn't take any food and when I got closer it backed away like it
did not recognize me or thought I was going to hurt it.
Any sudden move like raising the food made it jump. I left the room to stop
stressing it out and 5 minutes later it was back to normal like nothing had
happened.
<Mmm, likely confused by your apparent reflection...>
I have never seen this behavior before in this fish. It's happened 2 times in
the past 10 days and it's defiantly not normal. It's almost like it's having
some kind of seizure or temporary loss of memory. I don't think it was me just
startling the fish, it almost acted like I was not there till I moved
closer. Have you ever heard of anything like this type of behavior?
<Yes... look at the room around the tank... likely an open window, the sun
shining in... you may not be able to make out the multiple copies of yourself...
but the light is bouncing off of you, in and beyond the aquarium... confusing,
frightening the fish>
My only thought is that maybe it was still in some kind of sleep mode in the
middle of the day or that it has some kind of infection of the brain I can not
see. Any idea why the sudden split personality?
CS
<Try placing (in close contact), darkened paper or such on the non-viewing
panels (all but one or two if practical... the front and one side) of this tank
to reduce reflectivity. Am pretty sure this is the difficulty here... Along with
too small a world... these species of fishes need hundreds of gallons of space.
Bob Fenner>
Hovercraft Boxfish: Strange behaviour 12/9/06
Hello, Cam here again. Thanks for replying all my previous e-mails. My water
parameters are excellent since I did a 1/3 water change and my boxfish has been
fine after that, but after I added RUTO Mysis shrimps (for the first time) my
Hovercraft Boxfish (Tetrosomus gibbosus) showed some very odd behaviour. He also
does this after a clean the substrate and sometimes out of the blue. He (about
2.5->3cm long)
<Wow! Small!>
keeps twitching every now and then and he/she (It?) constantly tries to scratch
his (what appears to be) anus as well as his spiky head and sides. He does not
scratch against the decor (Live Rock), but instead he scratches and lifts the
crushed coral (Substrate) up. There does not appear to be any physical injuries
or parasites that I can see. Does he have worms?
<Mmm, possibly... though this is "natural" behavior for this species (have seen
it on larger individuals in the wild)... I would not be overly concerned here>
Any information will be gratefully appreciated. Thank You.
<You do realize that this Ostraciid gets quite large... is toxic... Bob Fenner>
-Puffer Peculiarities- Boxfish beh. - 04/19/06
I have a blue spotted Puffer and recently it has been lodging itself
vertically into a small reef of coral. Is this normal? Please help.
<Well with no real information on tank size or anything about the tank such as
levels of ammonia nitrite and nitrate, tankmates, etc; it is hard to help
you. however normally puffers can and do go into a hiding place if you will to
rest, or sleep. Another big one is to digest food in peace. Please write back
with the information on your tank and the size of this puffer so I can help you
more.>
<Justin (Jager)>
Boxfish sex change 3/29/06
Do the species of boxfish which exhibit chromatic differences sexually
<Yes>
undergo a change from female to male?
<No>
For instance, I understand that it is very difficult to find male Ostracion
whitleyi is that because they all start out as females?
<No... males just not near as common in their northeasterly range>
This would be similar to many wrasse species, clownfish, the ribbon moray,
etc. Also, in reading through your website and others, I've read that it is not
a good idea to have two male boxfish housed together.
<Agreed>
Would it be okay to house two female boxfish together?
<Could, but I wouldn't. Still too likely to be negative interactions>
If so, will one of them eventually change into a male?
<No. Don't change sex>
The two in particular that I am asking about are Ostracion whitleyi and
Ostracion meleagris. Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Brian Lory
<Gorgeous animals... Bob Fenner, out in Hawai'i where both are found, though not
many male Whitley's>
Hovercraft Boxfish All Stressed Out! - 12/04/05
We have had our Hovercraft Boxfish called 'Ermintrude' now since last March. Everything has been going really well although we find he gets a little stressed with new fish being added.
<<Mmm, a "he" eh...maybe just embarrassed <G>, isn't 'Ermintrude' of female origin?>>
We are extremely careful in this situation and return new fish back to our shop if he's not happy.
<<Hmm...from what I can find this fish (Tetrosomus gibbosus) is considered compatible with a wide variety of species.>>
We've noticed since adding a Boxer Shrimp over two weeks ago that when he goes near he goes really black in colour.
<<Curious>>
We've kept an eye on this and this appeared to calm down however over the last day or two he appears really fat although not eating much. He is also keeping well away from the Boxer Shrimp over the last day or too as well.
<<Coincidence, maybe.>>
Tonight we found him sucked up against the filter, he appeared lethargic and not himself.
<<Tis a real danger with these fish...not strong swimmers. Best to have protected intakes on filters/drain lines.>>
His shape has changed enormously and we fear infection but can't find anything on this. Any suggestions ?
Kay Bosanko-Sheady
<<Hard to say really. Ideally you should remove this fish to a dimly lit hospital tank to reduce stress and watch for/treat any physical injury from the filter incident, if necessary. Do some research on this fish and make sure you are providing a suitable environment...the filter incident aside, it does sound as if your fish is suffering from stress related issues. Regards,
EricR>>
Cowfish Buoyancy Issue 12/10/05
I think my cowfish has ingested some air. He is floating tail up. what should I do?
<True buoyancy problems are often idiopathic, it's hard to determine the route cause. The problem itself however is often associated with the swim bladder (small sack responsible for fishes level in the water
column) This could be dietary, the fish may have an impaction in it's digestive tract so I would use small pieces of easily digestive food (flakes,
Mysis shrimp) and see if this helps. Until then I would move him to a hospital tank so that he can avoid becoming a puppet of your current and avoid being picked on by tank mates. Keep water quality and oxygen levels high.>
Thanks in advance. Marc
<Adam J.>
- Cowfish Changing Colors -
I just purchased a long horn cow he's in a tank all by himself and plan to
keep him that way now here's the problem if it is one he's not as yellow as when
I bought him he's kind of brownish on him and I can't see his white spots and
has a ring on his mouth, as soon as I acclimated him he was eating
and has been eat all this time he doesn't seem stressed or sick is this coloring
normal if not should I do something?
<Newly introduced specimens will often change colors for a while from the
stress of transit. Sounds like it's in good shape if it ate the same day that
you put it in. You should be all set! Good luck -Kevin>