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Website address change (Note: chg on Shrimp, Lysmata pgs)
Hello, Your link to my webpage, "How To Raise & Train Your
Peppermint Shrimp" (listed under Business--Publications) has an old
URL. The new address is www.lysmatapublishing.com. The old address
redirects you to the new URL for now, but it will soon be a "broken
link". Thanks for your time, A. Kirkendoll <Thank you for the
update. Will change. Bob Fenner> |
Cleaner shrimp with eggs
5/2/09
<Hello Jamie>
Let's get right to it shall we...
<That is why I’m here>
I have a 30 gallon reef tank. I have had huge problems with phosphates
in my tank...so high they have killed off most of my corals (except a
few mushrooms).
<After the water changes have been completed consider adding some
phosban or similar product to a reactor, and then hunting down the cause
of the phosphates.>
I was laid off from work and with my hubby out of work the tank became a
real problem to take care of properly. I had a lonely cleaner shrimp
before I was laid off (6 months ago) and bought her a friend....well
about 5 days ago the original one passed on along with a Sixline wrasse.
No changes in water chemistry were detected but the night before I had
really stirred the tank up and cleaned the filters and glass. I was
saddened but the newer, surviving shrimp seemed okay about the loss.
Today I glanced into the tank and noticed the shrimp has been swimming
about crazily looking for food and cleaning the tank of any algae,
playing no never mind to the half dozen or so Aiptasia that have made
their home on my live rock...even getting her/his tentacles stung once
or twice.
<You may be confusing peppermint shrimp and skunk cleaner shrimp, the
former are the ones that have the reputation for eating Aiptasia.>
Upon closer examination I noticed that the shrimp has some gooey, clear,
egg appearing things on her entire tail area.
<It is possible that she is carrying eggs.>
This really surprises me since the tank has been in the worst condition
it has ever been in before. I used to do one time per week water changes
but it has been about a month since my last one. There is only a protein
skimmer running and some power heads. The only other tanks mates are
some snails and hermit crabs and a male/female pair of yellow watchmen
gobies...who are inseparable. I was even considering selling the tank or
putting it up on craigslist for $200.
<Well this was an awakening for you then, make sure you keep the tank in
better condition from now on. Minor weekly maintenance is much easier in
the long run than trying to fix neglect.>
Now I feel like a jerk for letting the tank take to the condition it is
in and amazed that animals would reproduce in these conditions. On to my
question...I am afraid to alter the water conditions by doing any water
changes fearing that even the slightest change will harm the shrimp or
her potential clutch of eggs. Any words of wisdom would be much
appreciated. I a have been in the hobby for 5 years now and have made my
share of mistakes but this is awing to me. I appreciate your help in
advance.
<I suggest doing the water change if the tank is in as bad a condition
as you say it is in, rearing the shrimp isn’t likely going to happen
anyway. Make sure the pH and specific gravity are the same as the
current water for the sake of your inverts.>
Jamie
<Josh Solomon>
Breeding Cleaner Shrimp 1/25/09 Could you suggest any sites
on raising cleaner shrimp? <You can read FAQ's here on the subject
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimpreprofaqs.htm, but other than that,
you would have to Google for more info. Breeding the shrimp isn't all
that difficult, it is maintaining a food supply for the tiny organisms
to survive and grow. Is really not worth the effort involved. If you
decide to try this, keep us posted with your progress.> Thank You,
Josh <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Gender differentiation data on Lysmata shrimp 7/14/08
Dear Bob, <Peter> While reading some articles on your excellent
web site (which I do quite often) I came upon a section discussing
Cleaner Shrimp. Specifically:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/arthropoda/shrimp/cleaner.htm
I happened to notice your statement regarding the keeping of more than
one specimen in a tank as follows: "...the only ones I’d personally try
in more than a "pair" (best as a male and female) are L. amboinensis and
L. grabhami in a 75 gallon system. Are you aware that L. amboinensis
and L. grabhami are simultaneously hermaphroditic? <Mmm, yes. Stated
more clearly in the FAQs re Cleaner Shrimps:
http://wetwebmedia.com/clrshrpreprofaqs.htm> There is no male or
female in this species and any of these shrimp can be fertilized by any
other. Perhaps I have just misunderstood what you are saying and this is
well known to you. If so, I apologize. However, if this is contrary to
your belief you can find much on this topic in many marine biology
publications. If you would like to see some web links (of varying
credibility), here they are
http://www.breedersregistry.org/Reprints/FAMA/v17_aug94/scarlet.htm
http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Lysmata_amboinensis
http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/~rtb6933/shrimp/hermaph.html
http://striweb.si.edu/publications/PDFs/2007_Baeza_Reitz_Collin.pdf
http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/dao/v73/n1/p73-76/ Again, I
compliment you on your excellent web site and hope that my information
may be of use Sincerely, Peter Honig <Thank you for this
well-thought out/researched input. Will post. Bob Fenner>
Peppermint Shrimp and Friend ID Question - 6/21/08 Hi Wet Web
Media crew! <Hi there, Allison!> I've searched the site and
not come up with an ID for my shrimp larvae. <Sorry about that!>
I have Peppermint shrimp and have been attempting to follow April
Kirkendall book "How to raise and train your Peppermint shrimp."
<Neat! Are you going to get a teeny little whip, like on the cover?
Hehee!> So far I get about two weeks and they die, I think I need
to be more vigorous with my water quality. <Here are a few links
that may help:
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=1275&sid=8c4815b2daa467d53cbb2d1dc1f476b0
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=85
http://w3.dsi.uanl.mx/publicaciones/maricultura/vi/pdf/A18.pdf >
Well, my question about shrimp ID.... Last night I watched my shrimp
scoot across the tank and shoot out her babies, <Wheeeee!>
..there were multiple birthing mothers at the same time, got to see
one molt and breed, very cool. There were three molts and literally
thousands of shrimp, but there were two kinds! <Surprise!>
The following photos (I hope you can see them) <I’m sorry to say
that I can only see the difference in size.> ..are 1st of the
Peppermint shrimp by themselves, the middle picture shows both kinds
so you can see the size difference, and the last picture shows my
mystery shrimp by themselves. I have 7 Peppermint shrimp in my tank,
I had 5 I ordered online and then my husband went to our LFS for the
others and they looked a little different, but I can't really see
remarkable differences to tell them apart. <Indeed, the Lysmata
species commonly called Peppermint shrimp are very similar in
appearance. The differences can be small/not obvious at all.>
Could some be Lysmata wurdemanni and some L. rathbunae? <Could
be, but apparently Lysmata rathbunae tends to live in deeper waters,
so what you have is more likely one of several other very similar
shallow water species from the western Atlantic. For more
information see the following paper. There’s an in depth discussion
of new species and detailed information/drawings of each:
http://decapoda.nhm.org/pdfs/27306/27306.pdf > How do we tell
these apart? <See above link.> Wouldn't the larvae look more
similar? <I would have thought so.> Could they be Mysis?
<They could be, but adult Mysids are much larger than hours old
Peppermint/Lysmata larvae and look like this:
http://limnology.wisc.edu/personnel/ojensen/mysis.jpeg> I saw one
website that had two pictures (of Lysmata rathbunae and L.
wurdemanni) and they looked identical, but one (L.R) had a yellow
mass toward its cephalothorax <I’ve seen that as well on the
French site. The apparent "mass" is located on top, in the middle. I
believe that it's the shrimp’s stomach but I’m not sure. It’s
important to note that the appearance is completely different from
the yellowish masses you occasionally see on the *sides* of Lysmata
shrimps. These are instead parasitic isopods called Bophyrids and
clearly stick out away from the side of the body as a lump. See this
link for more photos/info:
http://www.qualitymarineusa.com/article.asp?page=feature&id=968EF63B-2D1D-469A-847A-8E8541B12BE4
> (it was hard to read, it was in French and I'm really rusty on
that!). <I feel your pain. I’ve seen a couple of those links and
have had to seriously tax my brain to recall enough French to get
by!> I looked at your
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimpidfaqs.htm page and can't seem to
figure this out... Anyhow, any idea on the babies would be helpful.
<Here are a couple of links with different species of Lysmata larvae
shown:
http://www.meerwasserlarven.de/garnelen/lysmata_rathbunae_engl.htm
http://www.meerwasserlarven.de/garnelen/lysmata_bogessi_engl.htm >
Can I raise the two types together or should I remove the USOs?
<As long as they’re not Mysids, and the shrimp are closely related
species, I’d think that it would be okay to keep them together. It
would make an interesting study. However, if you find out that you
do in fact have two different species, you might want to keep them
separate to prevent any interbreeding. Here are some helpful links:
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=494
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=1275&sid=8c4815b2daa467d53cbb2d1dc1f476b0
> http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=85 >
Thanks so much for all you do to make this hobby easier! Allison
<It’s a real pleasure. Take care and good luck with your little
shrimp babies! –Lynn> |
2002-2008, A Neo-con Odyssey... RMF
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Raising cleaner shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis) 3/8/07 Hi all!
<Hello again Jared! (How are the Clowns and Butterfly?> This letter
is in particular for Graham but I welcome anyone's help. In a reply
to someone's query about cleaner shrimp eggs, Graham made the comment,
"Please let me know if you're still interested in raising the fry and I
will hook you up with some excellent information about raising cleaner
shrimp." <I did? No... I didn't. Oh, wait. You read the post
answered by the *former* Graham, and I am the current Graham (GrahamT on
purpose).> I have been trying to gather as much info as I can and
was hoping Graham, or any of you other very knowledgeable folks, might
be able to direct me towards some of this excellent information.
<Will see if BobF has links to this info for you.> Thank-you in
advance, Jared <-GrahamT> <<Yes... some standard pet-fish
citations embedded here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clrshrpreprofaqs.htm and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimpreprofaqs.htm BobF>>
Tiny Shrimp 7/22/06 Hey Crew, <Hi> Was just scouring
over your site and reading the articles about skunk banded cleaner
shrimp. My tank is just about 8 months old now and I have only had one
shrimp for some time now. The other day the shrimp molted and had left
some eggs in the molt. So, I left it for a day until the shrimp had
taken them all from the molt and placed them again in her swimmerets.
<Good> Now, tonight as I was watching the tank (Mind you I look every
night just to see what I have as far as a nightlife in the tank) <I love
doing that.> I noticed that there were thousands of what look like teeny
brine shrimp in the tank. (Zooplankton perhaps?) <Yep> Now, I know I
have a hearty supply of both amphipods and copepods but they scatter
when the light hits them. These little things swarm to the light like
moths to a flame. <I have had these before as well, basically just one
type of plankton. Fish love them by the way, my wrasse use to go nuts
over these things.> If they are not shrimp and are zooplankton, where
would they have come from all of a sudden? <Normal waxing and waning of
populations. They have always been there, just not in large numbers.>
I have not made any new additions to the tank, and the only thing that I
have been feeding that is not a frozen or prepared food is some
phytoplankton for my feather duster. I know this is freeze dried so I am
going to assume the likelihood of some type of egg surviving the process
and hatching in the aquarium is slim to none. <But does make a nice food
source for small shrimp.> Either way I am happy to see a new life in the
tank, but again, even if this is not the case with the shrimp, I was
curious if there have been any documented cases of single shrimp
fertilizing and rearing young on their own? <The shrimp are
hermaphrodites so I guess it is possible, but the offspring as so
fragile after birth it is nearly impossible to raise these with very
specialized tanks. These little shrimp are just normal microfauna that
comes and goes in tanks. Interestingly I have also seen these in the
wild while night diving. Get some lights and these things come running,
followed closely by giant Manta Rays to eat them. Quite a sight for
sure.> Thanks for your time, John <Anytime> <Chris>
Peppermint Shrimp Babies...Yummy, Yummy, Yummy - 5/18/2006
Hello (and thanks for any help), <Hello Ron, and you're welcome.>
I have a 30 gallon reef tank with 10 different soft corals, some hermit
crabs, a few Emerald crabs, a Halloween crab, lots of snails and
everybody is doing just great at the one year anniversary of starting
this system. In fact, several of the corals are growing much faster than
I thought possible. A Taro Tree Coral has split off pieces and I now
have 6 separate ‘colonies’ that are as big or bigger than the piece I
started with! <Good to hear.> I had a small Clown and a Flame Angel
but they didn’t survive the crash of a power head into the sandy bottom
several months ago. The suction cups had let go from the glass side of
the aquarium, so it is now hard mounted. The sand was stirred by both
the intake and output of the pump and went I saw it first thing in the
morning the fish were both dead already. Everybody else is doing fine. I
had some Aiptasia (sp?) starting to grow in the tank so I bought 3
Peppermint shrimp. In a few days the anemones were gone. Great! One of
the shrimp then gave birth to a huge number of offspring (50… maybe even
100?). Since there are no fish or other carnivores, the baby shrimp seem
to be doing great. It has been 8 to 10 weeks and they are starting to
get bigger (bigger as in from tiny dots at first to 1/8 to 3/16ths on an
inch now). My questions are: How long before they are big enough to fend
off small carnivorous fish? <When they are not bite size, some time
from now.> How long before the reach ‘full size’ as adults? How long is
their ‘normal’ life span? What should I expect the survival rate to be?
<All these questions depend on diet, food availability, water quality,
etc.> Thanks again, <You’re welcome.> <Ron, do keep us informed
on the baby progression and anything you may do/have done to
increase survivability rate. James (Salty Dog)> Ron
Re: Peppermint Shrimp Babies...Yummy, Yummy, Yummy - 05/19/2006
Dear Salty Dog, <Ron> OK, lets assume good water quality and proper
feeding, how long can a peppermint shrimp live? Just a big ballpark
number would be helpful. I will keep you informed as to the kids
progress. I am setting up a 75 gallon tank to move some of the coral and
also to allow me to get a few fish. The shrimp will stay in the 30
gallon tank. <Ron, cannot answer as to how long they live. Suggest you
do a Google search for this info. I can tell you that at maturity, they
do reach a length of 1.8”. James (Salty Dog)> Thanks, <You're
welcome> Ron Nursery ... Lysmata, Neon Gobies repro.
2/22/06 Hello aquarium gurus! <Hello Norris.> I have a
question (obviously) I have a 46 gallon bowfront tank with the
following inhabitants -2 false percula clownfish -2 neon gobies
-2 skunk cleaner shrimp -3 yellow tailed damsels -1 yellow tang
- lots of live rock -various corals (including mushrooms, button
polyps, and a pumping xenia) -cerith snails -Nassarius snails
-red legged, reef hermit crabs -a few Trochus snails -1
margarita snail I have reason to believe that one of my shrimp is
carrying eggs in the little fan-like flippers on her abdomen. <Very
likely.> I also think one of my neons is pregnant. It has "bloated", and
is now either obese or full of little eggs. This was all very exciting,
but I've been reading (largely on your site) that the other fish (and
I'm looking at the damsels as I write this) will promptly gobble up all
eggs, larvae, and fry that dare to be born. <Yummy, yummy, yummy I've
got eggs in my tummy...> So... I was already thinking of buying a 20
gallon refugium/sump, with compact fluorescent lighting for my tank...
I'm thinking that I could place the future mothers in the refugium,
allow them to give birth, and then put them back into the main tank.
Could the refugium be used as sort of a nursery? I don't have a
quarantine tank... a crime to be ashamed of, if I've gotten anything out
of my readings. Is there something wrong with this idea, or is it
worth a try? <You would have a difficult time to say the least,
providing the right kind of food to rear the shrimp. Neon gobies
have/are bred in captivity and the same problem goes along with a proper
food supply. Do read FAQ's on this subject here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/gobyreprofaqs.htm>
AND If I do get a bunch of healthy shrimp and neon gobies, what
should I do with them? Where can I sell them? <If it ever develops to
that stage I'm sure local shops would take them off your hands for a
fair price.> Also, I'm thinking of layering an additional inch of
finer, live sand over my current substrate, loose coral rubble. I want
either a mandarin, a diamond watchman goby, or a sleeper banded goby,
and they need a nice, sandy bottom. Sound OK? <Yes other than the
mandarin is going to require a well developed tank with plenty of live
rock and copepods to survive. Very few adapt to prepared foods. James
(Salty Dog)> Humbly yours, Norris, OR Coral Banded
Shrimp Attacked My Anemone II - 02/08/06 Hello! <<Hey there
Janie!>> Just had to follow up on the CBS. He still pokes at the
Condy from time to time but nothing vicious. <<Excellent!>>
But....I am so excited....I came home from work tonight and shined the
flashlight in the tank just to make my bedtime check. <<Something we
all should do periodically...many more wonders to discover once the
lights go out.>> The shrimp were out and about as usual but I
noticed the female doing an odd dance. Upon further inspection she was
raking her legs across her belly and expelling thousands of tiny little
shrimp babies. <<Neat!>> It was amazing! This is soooo
cool! How often do they do this? <<Hmm, not sure...I would guess
some 4-6 times a year maybe...the female carries the youngsters for a
bit after hatching. Do have a peek here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/arthropoda/shrimp/corlband.htm
>> I knew she was carrying eggs but I never expected to actually see
them hatch. <<Happens quite often really, though few actually
witness the event as you did. And I'm sure you're aware, the young
shrimp are/will be 'relished' by most everything in the tank.>>
Well, just had to share. There's never a dull moment in my aquarium.
<<Thank you for your input, EricR>> Shrimp Procreation and
Affects on Other Inhabitants 1/10/06 Hi <'Lo.>
I have to skunk cleaner shrimp that has what I think are little green
egg on there underside. <Quite common for these critters to
reproduce in captive life, rearing the fry is another story altogether.>
Now I was wondering how long does it take them to hatch <I have a
trio in my tank, and they seem to be constantly pregnant, releasing the
clutch about every 2 weeks.> and when they do hatch will the anemone
eat the newly hatched shrimp <The anemone will enjoy a free meal as
will everything else in your tank. This anemone could also snag your
adult shrimp and any slow moving fish if they aren't careful - eek!>
and if so is this good for him. <A natural food source, quite good.>
Thanks in advanced --Sbatiste <No trouble, Adam J.>
Lysmata amboinensis Reproduction - 12/20/2005 Hello ANYONE at
the Waikiki Aquarium! <Or WetWebMedia as the case may be.> I
have tried repeatedly to have someone respond to my email so I have
copied as many employees as possibly in hopes of finding a simple soul,
who would be kind enough to take a little time to respond. I am trying
to find out if what I have is true - successful spawning of the shrimp
Lysmata amboinensis. <Happens sometimes.> There is very little
documentation on the web but I know your institute has successfully
raised this species. Can you assist me or put me in contact with your
biologist to help identify what I think may be the case in my home
aquarium? My data is as follows... I have 3 adult cleaner shrimp
(Lysmata amboinensis) in a 150g tank (with corals, live rock, assorted
fish), 2 protein skimmers & 1 canister. Tank is 10 months old now. As
others have, I checked out the tank at night and I noticed copepods,
amphipods, and within a few weeks ago, baby shrimp. They are distinctly
shrimp; hundreds crawling around, very fast, on the rocks with
flashlight revealing orange eyes. Sizes range from 1mm to 5-6mm. I've
read all the difficulty in breeding these BUT, they have very few
predators, lots of places to hide, and I mix up a whole bunch of
different food (including phytoplankton). How can I get a positive ID on
these? <Try here http://www.breedersregistry.org/
> I've included some pics of a few juveniles under my microscope
(sorry - pictures with a webcam), and a pic of one of the adults.
<Sorry, none came through.> Only other shrimp is a single Coral
Banded. I can provide more data if necessary. <What we have is
located here http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clrshrpreprofaqs.htm
> Thanks - Dave Ehlert <You're welcome. - Josh>
Cleaner Shrimp Love (Queue up the Captain and Tenille!) 11/4/05
Hi guys - thanks again for the fantastic site. Your archives have helped
me out quite a bit and I've spent more than a few evenings reading
through your site. Good thing I'm already married, this hobby doesn't
lend itself to a social life very well. <Mmmm...> When I got up
this morning I noticed a clutch of green eggs under both of my Skunk
Cleaner's tails. I have to say that they're probably the most
interesting part of my tank. They're very aggressive about feedings.
When I feed my fish, my shrimp will chase them down to try and steal
some food from their mouths. They're often successful. My poor clowns
have had bits of shrimp or flake food stolen from them as they were
trying to eat it. <Happens> I'd like to give raising the eggs a
shot. I did some reading through the FAQs on the subject (specifically:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimpreprofaqs.htm) and the Breeder's
Registry. I've come up with a plan for raising the eggs that I'd like to
pass by you to see what you think. I have an 8 gallon Eclipse that
I could use as a rearing tank. I read on the Breeder's Registry that the
eggs turn silver a few days before they hatch, <... if they're
fertile, fertilized...> so I was going to move the shrimp when that
happened. The Eclipse also has slightly rounded corners. I read that
corners would kill baby shrimp (although I don't quite understand how).
<From bumping into them repeatedly> I'd use water from the main tank
to fill the new one. The only things I'd have in the rearing tank would
be an airstone and a heater. I'd do a 2 gallon water change once a day.
Once the young'ins hatch, I'd move the parents back to the main tank to
prevent them from snacking. I would feed the babies Phyto and Formula
One flakes. Am I missing anything? <Mmm, nope, not as far as I
can see.> The other idea was to leave them in the display tank. I'm
undergoing an Ich outbreak and I'll be moving all of my fish into my QT
tonight. That the tank will be fish free for that time is kind of
fortunate. All that will be in my tank will be the shrimp, hermits,
snails, an emerald crab and my coral (hammer coral, Actinodiscus
mushrooms, Ricordea, xenia elongata, button polyps), there's nothing
predatory other than the mushrooms and hammer and there would be tons of
places for them to hide. I'm thinking that this route would help out the
cause since I wouldn't be stressing the shrimp by moving them. The water
would be more stable in the main tank and there's more hiding places.
<... most of these cnidarians are planktivorous... will eat the young>
My display tank is 70 gallons - 18"x18"x48" (I can give you more tank
parameters if you need it - not sure that it's all relevant and this
email has gotten long enough). I have about 1300 gph of flow going
through it. I would think that I'd have to remove the 3 power heads in
it so that the babies don't get sucked up and crunched, which would mean
that the only flow would be coming from the sump (about 600gph) Am I on
the right track or should I just let nature take it's course? <I
would> Survival of the fittest, you know. <Not always and not for
long...> Thanks for any help you can give! Jeff <Good luck,
life to you. Bob Fenner> Not everyone wants a partner….lone
cleaner shrimp with eggs 10/3/05 Hello guys. <Hello
James, Adam with you.> I came home today and am really shocked. I
noticed what looks like and I hope ‘is’ roe on my cleaner shrimp.
However, he/she is the only shrimp in the tank and for that matter
any of my tanks. Is this normal (obviously it is possible as I am
seeing it)? <Its not unheard of.> Having only one shrimp I never
expected to see this sight… Please respond as I am confused by what I
see. The stuff looks like greenish-blue tiny little eggs clustered
on the abdominal area. <As I said above its not unheard of though
“usually” it doesn’t happen. The eggs may or may not be fertile,
chances are they are not. In any even when the shrimp does release the
eggs it will make a nice snack for your microfauna and any other inverts
or small fish you may have.> Thank you., James Zimmer <No
problem, Adam J.> Re: Not everyone wants a partner….lone
cleaner shrimp with eggs 10/4/05 Thank you Adam.
<Anytime.> I was not aware that this would happen without another
shrimp in the tank... <Its not to common they carry eggs alone but at
the least it’s a good sign that the shrimp is healthy and feels
confident enough in his/her environment to breed.> Oh, I guess Clyde
(the shrimp's name) should actually be Claudia. <Freaky little buggers
aren’t they?> Yes, I know they are hermaphroditic... lol I didn't
really think anything was wrong but it just seemed strange.
<Just another marvel of life on the reef…..or reef tank that is.>
Again, thank you. James <No problem James, Adam J.> Re:
Not everyone wants a partner….lone cleaner shrimp with eggs
10/5/05 Adam. <James.> Actually, my little one is quite
friendly (prefers hand feeding and gives a good finger cleaning)
<Hehe, mine does this too, it hurts when he pulls of my hangnails
though.> and a friend mentioned that he thought it strange that his
stays in basically one spot while mine scurries here and there all over
the tank (new home 55 gallons). <Some are bolder than others are. The
group I have stays in one spot together during the day and then dance
around the entire tank at night. Just different personalities.> When I
first got her/him, the place called home was my 5-gallon starter tank
and the territory was confined to the heater: discourtesy of the Royal
Gramma who was there first. I attributed the movement to freedom and not
being pecked at by a very territorial little fish. <I’m sure the shrimp
appreciated the new confines.> However, most times I have seen these
little creatures they are only in one spot in friend's tanks or at
dealers. Whatever, 'normal' behavior is mine seems to be very content
and that is how I want it to stay if at all possible. Of my fishes
(Foxface, Firefish, Royal Gramma, and 2 {deceased} Scooter Blennies
<Dragonets aren’t easy fish and the Foxface at an adult length of 10” or
more will eventually outgrow your 55.> the shrimp is hands down my
favorite with the most personality. <I agree they are neat creatures.>
I was considering getting a companion for it but I hated the idea of
them maybe not getting along since the buys would be separate.
<Usually they get along.> I now have some options: I am going to
turn the 5 into a quarantine tank and I got a 24 Nano-Cube (idea
here is more or less an invert/species tank) because it basically
came ready to run with lots of good lighting and filtration (the 5
is terrible but ok for quarantine). <It is fine for the QT of small
inverts, not really suitable for fish.> Now I can have a place for
the corals or other fish that may need to be separated if necessary
where as before I really had no options. <Just have fun with it
James, don't over think it.> James <Adam J.> Cleaner
Shrimp Larvae 8/26/05 Hello all, I was checking out my
refugium tonight(2:30am) and discovered what appears to be shrimp
larvae. I would say there is at least a dozen swimming or running
around, and more that I can't see, I'm sure. They are clear and
range from 2-5mm or so. But I can identify the shrimp shape for sure. I
do have 2 skunk cleaner shrimp and 1 peppermint shrimp in the 120
gallon reef tank. But have never seen eggs. It is also surprising
that the larvae have made it to the refugium via overflow AND power
head. Will the refugium be safe for the larvae (only macro algae,
copepods, and amphipods live here)? And will they feed on any of
the previously mentioned critters? I understand that raising the
cleaner shrimp(?) is very difficult, but just inquiring. Thanks
kindly, Ej <Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimpreprofaqs.htm and:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clrshrpreprofaqs.htm Bob Fenner>
Raising Lysmata shrimp I was just wondering if someone is still
having success at breeding Lysmata amboinensis, and wondering if you had
any information on settlement cues. I believe it is possible to raise
larval shrimp to adult in around 14 weeks is that correct? If you have
any information on this topic of raising these shrimp it would be most
appreciated. I have read just about all that is on the internet and
appears you the people at the Waikiki aquarium re the only ones that are
successfully breeding Lysmata amboinensis
< Well the best thing I can do is to give you Andy Rhyne's email
address. He is in Florida working on his PhD. He is the world's king
of these things and is a master at their reproduction and
husbandry. But don't tell him you got his email address from me
XXX001@hotmail.com > Many thank Chris
< Blundell > Raising cleaner shrimp 7/19/05 Hello
hopefully I have got it right this time. My questions are: 1 Is
KENT MARINE ZOOPLEX a suitable first food for the larvae? <Can work>
2 Do I need to remove the parent shrimp after the eggs have hatched?
<Yes> 3 Is an air driven sponge filter suitable? <Might be...
along with water changes (very slow, gradual) with matched quality...>
My shrimp is currently in my hospital tank which has been cleaned out
and filled with water from my main reef tank . Any advise you can
give will be gratefully received . Thank
you SIMON <There are a few works in print re culture of
Palaemonids... I would invest. Bob Fenner> Cleaner Shrimp/Eggs
Good day! <And a good day to you, David> I have a pair of skunk
cleaner shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis) in my salt water tank that have
a lot of fun knocking each other up. One interesting thing I've noticed
is that it seems like the eggs will appear, disappear, and then
reappear. Last Thursday (June 9 for those keeping score at home) one of
the two no longer seemed to have its eggs. As of Friday (June 10),
neither shrimp had any of their green eggs visible. When I came back to
work on Monday (June 13) they both have swimmerettes full of bright
green eggs. I'm a bit confused as to what is going on....
1) Are the eggs changing color and becoming camouflaged or otherwise
difficult to see? 2) Did the eggs get launched as weekend fish food
and then the shrimp quickly reproduced to make more eggs?
3) Are my shrimp practicing their ability to make their eggs appear and
disappear and then reappear in a few days in a bold and lucrative
attempt to replace Penn and Teller in the Las Vegas scene? The
only other bit of information I can shed is that at least one of the
shrimp molted over the weekend, as I noted some of the molting caught up
in my filter (not sure if that is related or coincidence).
Thanks again for you time, <Would not worry about it David. And yes,
they will end up as food. My guess is the shrimp know when they are
molting and removed the eggs from the swimmerettes, then after molting
was complete, gathered up the eggs and attached them back in the
swimmerettes. James (Salty Dog)> David Breeding Lysmata
[Cleaner Shrimp] Dear Bob, <<not Bob, but JasonC - Bob is away
diving>> I have several pairs of Lysmata debelius shrimps. I have
been trying to get them to mate for a couple of months. they constantly
molt and are old enough to mate (3.5-4cm length). conditions are
constant.. temp at 27 degrees Celsius, salinity at 34-35ppt. they feed
an grow and have shown no major signs of being stressed. however they
have not been producing any eggs, which they would carry under their
tail. I have added a filter of 1000 micron to the water flowing through
my system to catch any larvae if they are produced and have not found
anything. should I just be patient or is something not right? how
influential is light to reproduction of these shrimps? at present they
are under natural light, near a window. <<I'm afraid I don't have any
experience with these. My quick guess would be that many of the shrimps
need a more salt-marsh/lagoon/tidal pond-type environment to
successfully breed. I would likewise guess that the light does have
influence... is that the only light on the tank? If I were you, I would
pose this same question on the WWM forum which is patrolled by many
knowledgeable, friendly folk - and someone just might have done this.
http://talk.wetwebfotos.com/ >> thanks, Avinash Singh <<Best of
luck in this endeavor. Cheers, J -- >> Breeding Shrimp
We have a pair of Lysmata amboinensis in our tank, the large of the 2
has been in there for about a year now - the 2nd one we added about 4
months ago, and is a little smaller than the other. A few days ago - the
larger one appeared to have lots of little green "eggs" (for lack of
another term) in the swimmerets under the backside. <No better term
needed, in this case, that is what they are, fertilized eggs.> It was
interesting - we saw her (assuming) perched on a piece of live rock,
"playing" with them, she had the swimmerets tilted out, and it was
almost like she was moving the "eggs" around. Well, this morning - the
other shrimp has em now. They both do! <Yes, they are hermaphroditic,
both able to function as both sexes simultaneously.> The interesting
thing is that this morning, we caught the larger one almost chasing the
smaller one - going at the smaller one with her pinchers. In fact, she
got the smaller one in the tail, and the smaller one jumped and some of
the little things came out of the swimmeret's. <Now that sounds kind
of strange.> Are they eggs, and if so - can we do anything with them?
Bill Yazji <I can give you a couple of leads if you wish to pursue
raising the babies. The Summer 2002 issue of SeaScope, a free newsletter
from Aquarium Systems that comes out quarterly, has a related article on
breeding Lysmata rathbunae. Also, check out the Breeder's Registry, an
online source for captive rearing information. -Steven Pro>
Breeding Shrimp II I would be interested in attempting to raise
them. Is it something very difficult? <I would not describe the
process as easy, but it could be worth the effort.> I had attempted
to view the Breeders Registry, but the link wasn't working for me.
<It did not work for me, either. Perhaps a problem with the server this
evening. I did find a few online articles with a quick search.
http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Reprints/FAMA/v17_aug94/scarlet.htm
http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Reprints/SeaScope/v11_sumr/shrimp.htm
Thanks - as usual! ~Bill <Good luck! -Steven Pro> Cleaner
Shrimp Howdy! <Hi Cathy! How's it going down there?> Just
yesterday (I think) there was a question regarding Cleaner Shrimp on the
Daily FAQ page - now I can't find it. The reason I am looking for
articles - I have two Lysmata amboinensis (cleaner shrimp with white
markings on the tail) - and both are carrying green matter in the lower
part of the tail and that look like the tiniest of green dots. <These
are eggs.> Does this mean I have two females? <It means you have
two males and two females, but only two shrimp total. Confusing? You
should try being the shrimp. They are hermaphroditic.> They have been
carrying these "dots" for about two weeks - maybe it is something else?
<No, it is a textbook description of eggs. They should change color to
an orange/red in a few days.> I've tried using the google search for
WWM, but nothing about this shows up. At first, I thought this was
because I had a green algae bloom in my tank, and they ate the algae.
But the bloom is gone, and the green remains. Any ideas, help would be
appreciated! If a picture is needed, I can get one :-) Cathy in Texas
<>< <The article I referenced on the Daily page is here
http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Reprints/FAMA/v17_aug94/scarlet.htm
Chat with you later! -Steven Pro> Raising Cleaner Shrimp Babies
Dear crew: I have just collected the larvae of my cleaner shrimp on a
net. I don't know what to do with them. It is a pity to watch them get
"filtered out from my overflow. Right now, I have them in my net in the
main aquarium, with no fish, since the tank is fallowing. Is there
anyway to successfully culture little cleaner shrimp? What do I need to
feed them? And do they need a separate tank to raise them? Were there
any successful breeding trials? Please tell me what to do! <It must
be that time of year or something. We have received a question about
spawning cleaner shrimp everyday for the past several days. Please take
a look here
http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Reprints/FAMA/v17_aug94/scarlet.htm?
Sincerely, Eric <Have a nice day! -Steven Pro> Shrimp Follow
Up and Pods Hello again! Thank you! My fish and crabs will
probably eat whatever eggs these shrimp deposit, eh? Caviar to the
salties! <Them and your corals, too. Excellent food for all!>
Another quick question, do 'pods come in all colors, or just gray? <I
have seen mostly tan to gray.> I have some REALLY big black ones,
twice the size of the gray. <Interesting, could you send us a
picture?> They love the filter pads and my refugium. I'm not sure
what eats them (in my tank), but I have tons. Here's the fish list, one
of each: bi-color blenny, Foxface, engineer goby, blue/yellow tail
damsel, maroon gold bar clown, Firefish, and the junior angel
(Pomacanthus). None are mentioned to eat these "bugs" in my books.
<Actually, they will all eat some.> Should I get a mandarin to eat
them, or just leave the 'pods? <I would leave them. They and their
spawn are excellent food for fish and corals as well as having the added
benefit of consuming a fair amount of algae, detritus, uneaten food,
etc.> Thanks once again, your patience is outstanding! -Cathy in
Texas <>< <Have a lovely day! -Steven Pro> Breeding
Peppermint Shrimp Greetings and salutations everyone: Around
11:00 last night I was giving my reef tank one last check and noticed
one of the Peppermint Shrimp was acting rather erratic. So I turned on
my blue actinic light to make a closer observation, just in time to see
one of them giving birth to hundreds of tiny Peppermints. What a
beautiful sight. <wow... how wonderful!> Is there any way to
ensure any survivals? <absolutely. It is somewhat tedious to rear
the larva but very possible and done by many aquarists. Some articles
have been written on the subject like here:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-10/nftt/ Thee is also a
new book written on the subject for interested aquarists just like you:
http://www.lysmatapublishing.com/shrimp.html > I think my LPS
corals had a feast last night because I do not see any left this
morning. >indeed...very good food. Many aquarists keep breeding
peppermint shrimp in fishless refugiums for this purpose> I also have
noticed quite a few of white semi-transparent larva's around 1/8" long
with a large mouth and a dual tail on the other end sliding around on
the glass. Does this sound like some kind of Nudibranch? They seem to
be multiplying rather rapidly, should this be a concern? <hard to
say without an ID or image> I've also noticed several small brittle
stars (around 1/2 inch in length) hanging around in the live rock. Do
they pose any threat? <nope... very beneficial filter feeders and
detritivores> Besides the obvious physical beauty of our underwater
ecosystems, don't you find it truly inspiring that life always just
seems to "find a way"? What a tribute to our creator! <remarkable by
any definition :) > My Tube Anemone is growing a little too fast and
its tentacles were getting too close to my candy coral. <wow...
I'm not thrilled about such an aggressive anemone in a tank with coral
or other anemones... I'd remove it to a species tank for proper feeding
any way (without polluting coral tank or starving anemone in the long
run> The Candy Coral has not been a happy camper lately (nitrates got
a little high the other day, .40 PPM, so I quickly made several water
changes and things are already looking a lot better). I relocated the
Candy Coral on the sand. Is this an acceptable location? <perhaps
not... they cannot purge sand easily and may suffer if sprinkled or
buried. Its an unnatural place for this coral> I wasn't sure it would
be happy there as I am rapidly running out of space since all of this is
going on in a 5 gallon nano reef. <oh, my heavens! Brother, please
remove that tube anemone from this tank ASAP or pull all else to a reef.
There are serious issues here with chemical warfare on your coral beyond
issues of actual contact> I've read your information regarding the
feeding of corals and it was very informative. I purchased some DT's
Phytoplankton to supplement the Corals (one Euphyllia, one Candy, one
Hammer, one leather tree coral and assorted button polyps).
<hmmm.... only the leather tree coral eats (perhaps) a little
phytoplankton. None of the other corals here feed much if at all on
phyto. They are zooplankton feeders. I suspect that the only thing your
phyto is feeding is nitrate levels> If I feed according to
directions, that would be 1/3 tsp in 5 gallons every other day. Will
this amount increase my nitrates or should I just be concerned with the
freshness of the phytoplankton? <a fine food but inappropriate for
these corals> More along the line of twice a week sounds more
reasonable given the size of my tank. Can you recommend a product for
zooplankton that is equally fresh, besides using a refugium?
<indeed the refugium is best, frozen Cyclop-eeze would be a fine runner
up (hard to find though... an Argent product), fresh hatched baby brine
is good after that (less than 9 hours old). After that, minced meaty
foods (Gammarus PE Mysis shrimp, Pacifica plankton)> I have been also
feeding a frozen food rich in Kill and Sponge but, again, am concerned
with nitrates (is twice a week on this one also acceptable?). <way
too little food for the LPS corals and definitely not enough for the
tube anemone> Please don't suggest an upgrade in equipment, we are in
the process of adopting two otherwise homeless children and at this time
any upgrades just is not in the budget. <no worries bud... but I must
say that you need to remove the anemone or the corals for both to have a
chance at surviving long term> Nitrates are my big concern, <in
such a small tank, a weekly water change of 2-3 gallons should make it
all go away nicely> but I still want to give the corals everything
they need and still keep nitrates as low as possible, considering the
size of my system. I try to keep Nitrates around .10 PPM, which is
quite a challenge and still feed everything. You guys perform a great
service and I can't thank you enough for your assistance. I called the
LPS where I bought the coral frags and all I got was "I am too
busy". How sad for them. I think they're missing out in the real
meaning in all of this. <agreed. You'll do fine here my friend if you
are simply realistic about the limitations of the tank and what is
humanely possible. With kind regards, Anthony> Pregnant cleaner
shrimp 3/14/03 Good morning, well I realized that I have a
pregnant Cleaner Shrimp, I would like to some how isolate her to keep
some of the babies. <Interesting tidbit about cleaner shrimp... your
"she" is actually is an "it". While most shrimp have separate sexes...
cleaners are hermaphrodites... thus any two can breed successfully
together> Is it possible?? <challenging but possible... the move
to an isolation tank was helpful> what should I buy? I saw a breeding
unit online- Let me know Thanks, Athena <successful rearing really
cannot be summed up in an e-mail. Let me suggest you buy and read a book
on a similar species: "How To Raise & Train Your Peppermint Shrimp --
April Kirkendoll. Its available from Amazon.com and many other places.
The rearing tips will be quite similar. Also, do a keyword search on
this topic on a search engine for find specific articles perhaps on this
species... alas, we do not have one on WWM. General info on the group
can be found here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/arthropoda/shrimp/cleaner.htm
Best regards, Anthony> Baby shrimp and their little umbrellas
(04/06/03) hello, <Hello! Ananda here tonight...> My first
question is- I am wondering if the cleaner shrimp carry eggs at a
certain time of the season or if this happens all year round? <All
year round...> I am going on my 4th pregnancy between 3 shrimp. It
seems so bizarre, but maybe this is normal- I'm not sure. <It's
completely normal in a healthy tank. Cleaner shrimp are hermaphroditic,
so anytime you get two or more, you get baby shrimp -- which make
excellent food for the other stuff in your tank.> second question-
there are tiny white little particles along the bottom of the glass
inside the tank and also on the furniture-it looks like lil' umbrellas??
<Those would be a type of feather duster. Very common in newish tanks,
and completely harmless. --Ananda> Cleaner Shrimp Mating
(4/29/04) I have 2 cleaner shrimp in my tank and have just
noticed that one has a large sac on it's side, it actually looks like it
is filled with something...could it be eggs??? <Eggzactly. Lysmata
amboinensis are hermaphrodites and two of them will usually mate. The
other one will eventually have eggs too. These eggs & the resultant
larvae make great live food, so don't expect any baby shrimp. Steve
Allen.> Kelly Aiello Cleaner Shrimp with Eggs I have a
question about my cleaner shrimp. I have had this cleaner shrimp
from the first moment I set up my 125 reef about a year ago. I have
noticed that it has some white/green dots on the under side of its
tail that has never been there before. To tell the truth they
looks like eggs but here is the situation. I have no other cleaner
shrimps in my tank. The only other shrimp is a fire shrimp which I
have had for about 6 months. My questions are: 1) Could the
cleaner shrimp and fire shrimp mated? 2) If not, could the dots be
eggs? 3) If not, what are they? Thanks, Kris <<Well, I'd bet the dots
you're seeing under the Cleaner Shrimp are eggs, but even if the Cleaner
is a Lysmata genus member and ditto for the Fire (Lysmata debelius),
there probably is not a cross-species mating going on... Lone Shrimp
females can/do lay eggs on their own, and they're sterile. If you're
interested, you might want to try introducing a male of the species;
otherwise the solo one will be fine. Bob Fenner>> Strange
cleaner shrimp phenomenon Hi Bob, I purchased 2 cleaner shrimp
from ffexpress about 5 months ago. Now about 3 weeks ago, I
noticed that one of them had a bunch of egg-like shapes forming in
it's belly. I was surprised but heard that these shrimp did in
fact breed in captivity. The 2 shrimp had never hung out together and
always stayed on opposite ends of my 75 gallon reef setup. Now
they were together and seemed more like a couple. Now here's the
clincher. About 5 days ago, I noticed that now BOTH shrimp had this
"belly full of eggs". I haven't heard that these shrimp were
hermaphroditic. Is this possible? Have you ever heard anything
remotely like this? What should I do to try to save the babies, or
is this impossible? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot, -Jay
PS - I'm a big fan of your daily Q&A...keep up the great work! <<Hmm,
do take a look at this URL:
http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Reprints/FAMA/v17_aug94/scarlet.htm
An article by friend/author Joyce Wilkerson on Lysmata... Yes they
are hermaphroditic cross spawners... much can/needs to be done...
particularly provision of a grow out facility and food production...
read the article and if you have further questions... ring me. Bob
Fenner>> Eggs I have a cleaner shrimp (Lysmata
amboinensis) that is holding eggs. This is the only shrimp in the tank.
I read that they are hermaphrodites. Is it possible that the eggs
are fertile. Could you please give me any information that would be
helpful in rearing the young. Thank you, Connie Wehler <<Hmm,
interesting topic... Well... Lysmata spp. shrimps are hermaphroditic
(both functional sexes in one individual), but they are "synchronous"
versus simultaneous hermaphrodites... that is sequentially males turning
into females. And don't think they can/do self-fertilize... but, this is
where the whole situation may make sense yet, these animals can store a
"sperm packet" from mating some months back... Otherwise, these eggs may
prove to be infertile... You might want to consider adding a
small(er) individual or even more... if your system size will
accommodate them... Bob Fenner>> Cleaner shrimp question
I have three cleaner shrimp. Two of them spend all of their time
together. Recently, I noticed on the underside of the tail, there
appears to be many egg looking "things". These "things" are a light
yellow in color, and cover the entire underside of the tail. Lately,
this particular shrimp seems to always hide in the rocks except when
it's feeding time. I am not at all worried about this but, I was
wondering if you could explain what's going on or if there is anything
that I should be doing. Thank you for your time. <<Does sound like
your Cleaner Shrimp is "berried", that is, carrying eggs... You might
want to start at the www.breedersregistry.com reading about the genus
Lysmata... if you'd like to know more. Bob Fenner>>
My anemone cleaner shrimp I just purchased a Periclimenes
pedersoni. When I got it home and in the tank I noticed it had a
large clutch of eggs under it belly. Is there anything special I
should do to help her rear these or should I let mother nature
do her thing? <<I'd opt for the latter this time out... and maybe
scan the literature and Internet going forward for the next batch...
under the name Periclimenes pedersoni... Much to do in preparation
for juvenile shrimp instars... mainly building a suitable culture
facility (special tank for circulation, dripping in new water,
taking out old w/o removing the intermediate stages of the shrimp...
a continuous feeding device, lest they consume each other... and a
few types of food items to have in ready culture, density... Bob
Fenner>>
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Pacific Cleaner Shrimp eggs Bob, I think my two Pacific
Cleaner Shrimp are carrying eggs in their swimmers (swimmerets?).
Clusters of tiny round eggs. Is this really what's going on? Can I
expect any new shrimp out of this? <<Very likely are eggs, maybe some
young you can save... food culture, system preparation is necessary...
take a look at the articles stored on the genus Lysmata through
www.breedersregistry.com Bob Fenner>> Sexing peppermint
shrimp Dear Bob; recently one of two peppermint shrimp in my
reef tank died in a tragic powerhead accident. This pair of shrimp have
reproduced in my tank and I would like to replace the dead shrimp but I
don't know what sex it was. I saved the carcass. Is it possible to
easily identify the sex of a peppermint shrimp? I was unaware of any
pairing when I bought the two. Thanks, Doug <Can be sexed like the
ever tasty local Panulirus... modified uropods and fifth pair of legs on
the males as you know...> P.S. Great book. Your text along with Ron
and the boys at Octopus Gardens got me hooked on reef aquariums. I've
learned a ton over the last two years. I graduated from SDSU in 1972
with a BS in Zoology so we probably had some classes together. Glad to
see that someone retained all of that info. I've read about MASLAC and
it sounds like a very informed, active group. Is there anything similar
around San Diego? Thanks again for your help. <Yes, and have sent
this msg. to our fearless leader (he works for the local futility,
SDG&E...) Maurice, so, am sure he'll be contacting you as well. See you
here and there, your fellow alma mater, Bob Fenner> Lysmata
debelius Hi. I am writing from the University of the South
Pacific (USP), located in the Fiji Islands. I am about to begin my
Masters Program on Shrimp aquaculture and was hoping to work on Lysmata
debelius. Part of my funding is being provided by Walt Smith
International, an Aquarium Goods exporter and they are also very keen at
aiding work on this species. <I know Walt... we are old friends,
well, middle-aged friends> At USP we do not have very sophisticated
equipment to carryout many large projects. however we are developing our
lab systems and we have great access to the natural coral reefs and
relatively untouched ecosystems to study. we have access to seawater of
good quality, are developing new equipment and hence can carry out some
good experiments. <Hmm, you may want to contact friends at TMC who
have bred, reared Helmut's shrimp through all cycles... their address, a
review of their business can be found on our site: www.WetWebMedia.com>
I have obtained some information on this species. However more
information is required by myself before I can begin. I was hoping that
you could provide me with more information regarding the reproductive
biology and feeding behaviour of these shrimps - or of any contacts of
people who could provide me with this information. Thanking you in
advance, Avinash Singh. <Have Walt contact me, or you can contact
Derek Thompson et crew through me... at TMC. Bob Fenner>
Pregnant Cleaner Shrimp Mr. Fenner We just noticed hundreds of
eggs on the legs of one of our cleaner shrimps last night. Can we
purchase something from our LPS to try to save these eggs from being
eaten by our other stock and if so what are the chances of actually
getting some that live through the whole process. Much to relate...
I would read over the Breeder's Registry here, and Tropic Marine
Centre's accounts of their successful culture of Lysmata amboinensis
(and even L. debelius)... their URL's on the WetWebMedia Links pages>
Does this mean that the pregnant one is female and the other male, or
can both sexes have babies? Do you have info on your website about this?
We really want to try to breed them if we can, but we have no idea how
far she is and when they will hatch as we just observed her "fanning"
these eggs all night last night. It was the oddest thing to see and we
were both very excited. Also, my ammonia is 0 but my fish still keep
waking up with ich and then it disappears within the first 10 minutes of
feeding and does not show back up until either 8:30pm or when they wake
up in the morning, any ideas (our ammonia was at .50 a few days ago, but
have done many water changes to get it down to zero, we were over
feeding. <Study my friend. Bob Fenner> Re: Pregnant Cleaner
Shrimp Mr. Fenner My LPS has a little net type thing to put
the shrimp in, is this cruel to lock her in a net (I haven't seen it
yet, so I don't know what it looks like. <Not just cruel, but won't
work...> Also (I haven't looked at your link yet but I intend to), do
I put both male and female shrimp in net as the male has been heavily
guarding her and chasing away anyone that comes near. And do I remove
them once the eggs hatch? Are there books we can buy on this? Or will
our attempts be futile due to the other tank inhabitants(6 fish, crabs,
peppermint shrimps and snails) <All this answered where you were
sent... Bob Fenner> Cleaner shrimp I have a 40 gal. tank
and 2 weeks ago I noticed a lot of white stuff in my tank. I finally
figured out that they were baby cleaner shrimp... of course they got
eaten. I have purchased a small tank within a tank that has a small net
around it so the shrimp can't get through. How often do shrimp have
babies (fry) and how could I try to keep them alive if I'm around when
they hatch? <Mmm, please read over all the shrimp materials posted on
WetWebMedia.com's marine index... and follow the links to the Breeder's
Registry on the Net... and possibly read over the success of Tropic
Marine Centre in rearing a few species of Lysmata spp.> someone told
me to have" marine snow plankton diet" to feed them. <No. This
product is worse than worthless> Can they stay in the same tank as my
other fish in that small net tank? <No> I have a 5 gal. tank I
could set-up with a sponge filter, which I would just use water from my
main tank, since it would be cycled...I could add some sand and or live
rock. Is it possible to keep them alive? <Yes... have been
cultured... do need separate tank... As I say, read through what there
is known... on the net. Will give you a firm understanding of what's
involved. Bob Fenner> Thanks for the info... and " Merry Christmas !"
Cheryl Questions (impulsive cleaner shrimp culturist?)
Will other fish eat Cleaner Shrimp eggs? <Of a certainty yes; many if
not most fishes will> If so, how should I go about keeping that from
happening? <Mmm, if you're involved in culturing shrimp, keep them in
a separate system> How many cleaner shrimp should I put in a 55
gallon tank? Assuming that I have some hermits and a coral banded
shrimp in there? <... could or should? Coral Banded Shrimp, Stenopus
hispidus are cleaners... Please read the Marine Shrimp sections here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimp.htm and the linked articles and
FAQs files. Bob Fenner> Re: questions (impulsive cleaner shrimp
culturist?) Do you have any suggestions on what types of coral I
should combine in a tank? Like so many hard to so many soft? For
the aquarium floor, what type of types of live sand should I use? As
well as for live rock....how much live rock and live sand would you
recommend for a 55 gallon tank? What types of fish should I NOT have in
my tank if I have Cleaner Shrimp? <You would do well to invest your
money and time into one or more general marine aquarium books. Much
cheaper, less destructive to your spare time, budget and the
environment, then this approach. Please peruse, read over the site:
WetWebMedia.com Bob Fenner> Inter-breeding of cleaner shrimp
Bob, I was wondering if species of Lysmata shrimp can/have breed
among their different species. <Not as far as I'm aware. But do
check with the Breeder's Registry site... link on WetWebMedia.com if you
can't find it> I have two cleaner shrimp that were both sold as
common skunk cleaners. One appears to be ever so slightly darker in
color and has a solid white line on the edges of it's tail and the other
has two white dots on each edge of it's tail. I therefore assume I have
a Lysmata Grabhami (the solid white lines on the edge) and a L.
Amboinensis (the dots). Other than the tail markings and the slight
shade of color difference they are the same. <These do get sold as
one, the other quite commonly> Both have been in my tank now for many
months. They eat well, regularly clean the yellow tang and even my hands
when I reach in the tank. Within the last month I noticed that both
have many eggs stored underneath their tails. The L. Grabhami's eggs are
a lime green color, and the other shrimps eggs are a clear color and
look like salt and pepper under the shrimp. As far as I can tell they
have been there for 4-5 weeks. (or they have bred multiple times)
<Ah...> Is it possible they are both the same species with different
markings, or is it not uncommon for these two different shrimp to breed
with each other? <Mmm, these are likely two females... do spawn w/o
males present... can/do store sperm packets... or the eggs may be
infertile> Also, do you know if the different colors of the eggs
means anything? I don't know how long it takes for them to hatch, but
I'm assuming they will just be consumed by the fish as a treat or caught
up in the filters/powerheads. Thank you for your help and your great
site! Kris, PA <Mmm, do read through the Net here re Lysmata... and
BR. Much there re these species. Bob Fenner> Lysmata debelius
-fire shrimp larvae Hi Everyone. Well thanks to your advice I
have finally got pairs of fire shrimp to breed and produce few larvae.
however so far I have got so few larvae- less than 10 .. not good.
<Actually, not bad... took the folks at TMC a good many tries,
dollars/Pounds to get this far> I have had a look at a latest molt
and have seen that there are hundreds of unhatched eggs present on them.
the eggs are at their last development stage.. the eyes being clearly
visible. I don't really know what went wrong... the larvae that are
there are healthy but too few to work with.... <Could be infertile
eggs, not enough viable sperm/atophore, some aspect of water
chemistry...> (Fire shrimp adults naturally release the larvae into
the water and then go on to molt)-- something went wrong here. I'm not
certain if physical factor or may be nutrition maybe the key.. but how
did the other larvae survive? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks, Avinash Singh USP Fiji islands. <Bob
Fenner> Hello again (shrimp culture) I just posted this
on your chat forum but thought that you may have further insight :)
<Perhaps. Let's see> Hi All fist post here I have been Harassing Bob
and JasonC for a while now so I thought that maybe my fellow
hobbyists could take a stab at this one. Here are the usual specs.
My Reef tank is 30 gallons, with a new 130gallon tank being delivered
tomorrow. The inhabitants are, A Ocellaris, A Frenatus, Banggai
Cardinal, Pajama Cardinal and a Scooter Blenny. All are well. There
are the usual assortment of hermit crabs, snails and I seem to have
colonies of feather dusters cropping up on the rocks all over the
place. I also have a Pulsing Xenia and 2 Peppermint Shrimp and 1 CBS.
I do daily calcium additions and weeks Iodine drops. The shrimp molt
every month and are growing quite large. Hence the new tank as you say
larger is better. Tonight at feeding time the larger of the two
Peppermint Shrimp came out and her swimmerets are encrusted with
eggs. So now the quandary I am setting up the new tank tomorrow and
within the next few days planning on moving all of the live rock,
sand and inhabitants to their new environs. Do you think I should
leave the Mother Peppermint in there and allow her eggs to hatch.
What do you think would be the success rate if there were a moved to
the larger tank or left where they are? <The "success" rate in terms
of hatching, grow out? Not much in either. Please read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/shrimp.htm the shrimp articles, FAQs files
beyond. Much more to the effective culture of these animals. Bob Fenner>
The Emperor bio wheel is staying, but the protein skimmer and powerheads
are going. Need advice :) Cheers, Julian Hunt
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